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Iran just officially rejected any cease fire negotiations with the US and declared a will for a long war, and full readiness for a land invasion.

https://time.com/7382836/iran-us-israel-war-trump-araghchi-ground-invasion-cease-fire/
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>>530036813
Based Persians
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>>530036854
>Persians
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>>530036813
BA$ED
BASED
BA$ED
BASED
BA$ED
BASED
BA$ED
BASED!!!!
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>>530036813
Ready for another 20-year desert war?
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>do it pussy you won't
based
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>>530036813
Based.
TMD
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>>530036813
Old news
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>>530036813
Based. Till the last Iranian
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>HAIDAAAAR HAIDAR
>HAIDAAAAR HAIDAR
>HAIDAAAAR HAIDAR
>HAIDAAAAR HAIDAR
https://youtu.be/1dwRc_zeNaE?si=DEAcvijJ3X9d8Gu2
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Why aren't the Iranians rising up against their government and why isn't their army deserting? THIS IS WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
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>>530036813
>bomb officials as they're taking part in negotiations
>wtf why don't they want to negotiate with me????
The US and Israel made their bed and now they're going to have to lie in it.
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it would be laughable to trust kikes and amerigolems third time and get bombed third time during "negotiations"
at least they are learning on their own mistakes something russians are probably not capable of, but watching that chink professor I understand why now

>>530036914
dont you have some whore in chatan to rape and murder
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>>530037263
A combination of their government actually being popular with fundies, and repeated episodes of rioting funded by Americans at the behest of jews. There's also the small matter of the US bombing an all-girls' school at the very onset of this whole thing.
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>>530037229
basedd but try not to post jewtube tracker links
https://files.catbox.moe/unyd18.mp4
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>>530037264
I like how arakchi said that trump "bombed the negotiation table"
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>>530037296
>it would be laughable to trust kikes and amerigolems third time and get bombed third time during "negotiations"
That's what it comes down to. On both occasions, Iranians were lured to the negotiating table just so that their leadership could be triangulated and bombed.

There's basically no reason to negotiate with the US now. On anything.
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>>530036813
they said they wouldn't ask for a cease fire they didnt say they wouldn't accept one
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why would they

USrael already stabbed them in the back 3+ times at this point
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>>530037337
you mutt golems keep striking schools and hospitals
we will burn tel aviv and you will cry victim again...
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>>530037346
Let them come for me, I don't care.
https://youtu.be/osNJL4TaMyU?si=tdMwW_GUuFgvlH9c
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>>530036813
>every time we were negotiating, jewmericans started bombing us in the middle of the negotiations
>so this time, fuck off
Based.
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>>530037418
No we won't. You don't seem to get 80% of the population is against this war. Trump and the Republican kikesuckers are going to be obliterated in the midterms. He's going to spend the next two years being impeached every week.
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He can't negotiate, the idiotic jihad iranian military is rogue operating in closed bunkers.

US will rip them, then they will stop fearing radical towel heads and make a deal.
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>>530036813
Understandable. The last time they tried negotiating, israel and the united shabbos struck them with a surprise attack, makes sense they wouldn't trust them now.
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>>530036949
When the US launched war in Iraq (2003), its debt was $6T (58% GDP), and there was nobody in the world to oppose this invasion or create problems for the US elsewhere: Russia was ruined by capitalistic transformation/Soviet Union collapse, while China was an economic dwarf producing plastic toys, and the US manufacturing was still strong.

Today US debt is $39T (124% GDP), the country suffers from serious deindustrialisation, China is the biggest economy/industry in the world, while Russia projects pressure on countries like Ukraine/Bolanda ("Eastern NATO flank"). The Chinese can enable Iranians to produce millions missiles/drones decimating limited US hardware.
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Btw, it's going to be an Epic underground invasion! :D

Very precise, strategic, and deeply penetrating.

Someone post anal gape iran ball flag meme please and thank you, it makes me giggle.
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>>530037529
after the veteran arm breaking debacle it might be getting close to 90% now.
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>>530037514
Same thing keeps happening during the russia-ukraine negotiations.
I wonder if there might be another party giving orders to undermine any attempts at peace. But who would do such a thing?
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>>530037529
please explain to mew how this will stop the war?
i dont think you realize whats unfolding, you muttoids are about to enter very dark times
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>>530036949
No, it won't be like retarded Russians in ukraine!
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>>530037264
Twice! Why the fuck would any country give any credence to any negotiations the Trump administration is involved with?
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>>530036813
You will never have the third temple.
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Long live the shah. Death to the islamist rape rats.
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The US has no intention of a ground invasion they will simply continue killing the bloke in charge until nobody is will to accept the position except the bloke the US wants to run the show. Then they will arm them against any remaining opposition forces and continue killing opposition leaders until control is solidified.
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>>530037398
kikes even boasted on social media that they were tracking officials that were relaying state of negotiations to ayatolah and irgc via streetcams, so I fully believe they mislead the negotiations by false offer kikes never wanted to honor that had to be decided by government just to get them to place where they can be killed
never trust kikes and amerigolems, even gcc "allies" are learning that in real time, others will too
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>>530036813
These officials really think they are official.
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>>530037653
Congress has to vote to give the president the ability to wage a war. Even if authorized, they can deauthorize. Which means with a Congressional shakeup in the midterms, the war could be forcibly ended.
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>>530036813
Absolutely based. Trumpstein fucked up.
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>>530036813
>try to negotiate nuclear deal
>during them, start bombing campaign and kill their leader
>HEY YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK NOW???
>no
wow who could have predicted this
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Thise who bleds israel are blseSes tvose who cirse are eccursed
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>>530037750
You don't negotiate with jews or those who are owned by jews. It's that simple. They are evil, and you will only get evil.
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>>530037687
I will reenergize!

No big speeches all day.
Think, observe, target with impunity.
Keep cool, calm and overlay energy incoming.

It's going to be brutal, but we're now going to have to finish the job, period. We're going to walk through the Shit mountains and valleys.
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>>530037779
>the war could be forcibly ended.
you actually believe this? i dont think you understand
only Iran can end this.. but it wont
because this is the final war.
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>>530037910
>war
there's a war on now?
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So who sees this ending with Israel nuking Iran?
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I would stop the mega briefs and speeches, people here need ro focus on Daily Life!

They won't win the war.
Other ways will.
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>>530036813
Unless trump wants Afghanistan 2.0 there won't be a land invasion. Surely he's not that retarded....
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>>530037910
Sorry, I do not believe in any mystical BS. The war was ended promptly last time. I will not believe it is any "final war" either until Iran begins bombing the oil infrastructure, which would tank the global economy. After that you aren't going have to worry about allah so much because you will be living in a MadMax hellscape.
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>>530037748
Imagine being China and being worried that the US will interfere with your coming invasion of Taiwan in 2027, only to then witness the US waste its entire munition stockpile in useless wars for Israel.

China gets an easy W just because the average amerimutt is a brainless slave for israel.
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>>530038005
>Surely he's not that retarded....
His recent actions have proven he's just another clueless retard boomer easily steered by the jews. Evangelicals are not more than 25% of the RNC, and yet he listens to every single thing they say, which is insane. They have him believing he's some sort of spiritual turning point, which is exactly the kind of ego trip a megalomaniac enjoys.

Meanwhile, 75% of his base who elected him are now abandoning him. And if he invades Iran with troops, the next three or four elections will go solely to Democrats. He will save their party from permanent defeat.
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>>530037994
Even nuking Iran wont help due to their geography, mountainous/huge terrain, decentralized/dispersed command system, launchers/factories hidden under bedrock etc etc. If you nuked it, some missiles/drones would be still flying out of there. But it takes only one 1MT "stray" warhead to decimate Israel.
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>>530037264
>US and Israel made up their bed
What bed would that be?
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>>530038234
Either take the L and unilaterally stop bombing Iran, or commit to a ground invasion which would be a logistical nightmare.
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>>530038112
Please explain to me why China would ever conventionally invade Taiwan. They'll just send a bunch of immigrants over there and hold a vote to join the mainland in two generations.
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>>530038005
>troops are told that trump is annointed and they are started armageddon so jesus returns
surely they are not retarded
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>>530038058
>begins bombing the oil infrastructure
what do you think is happening? you will learn of refineries and wells being hit days ago
but you have to keep in mind Iran has all the leverage in this battle, and it wants to keep it that way.
the pool is closed.
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>>530038301
What about
>Just continue bombing them
?
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Why is US military not excited? Where are the big boys? Why did all the barking stop?
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>>530038335
Exactly. The main interest of China is keeping the US away from Pacific. The best way to do this is to make the US stuck in another ME war
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>>530036813
Burgers will never have the courage to put boots on the ground in Iran
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>>530038335
China considers Taiwan to be their own territory currently occupied by rebels, they want to recover the island but couldn't without a heavy cost up until recently.
With the US now entirely bogged down in the Middle East, China can finally retake Taiwan with minimal losses and without needing to wait for 50 years for immigration to change anything.
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>>530038418
>Just continue bombing them
please do but dont cry when the pedodollar crashes
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>>530038396
>what do you think is happening?
It isn't happening. A few errant drones hitting an oil tank is not the same thing as destroying a whole refinery. Iran being serious would mean them lobbing cruise missiles into Al-Basrah Oil Terminal and effectively ending the oil trade in the ME. That would be a "final war" and signal the death of the global economy.
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>>530038418
Continuing to bomb won't change anything. You can't win a geopolitical game with an air campaign. It has never worked. Look at Vietnam.
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>>530038416
They have 90 milion people... who need water and food! Most who hate the towel head mullahs btw.

People who will tire and decapitate towel heads themselves, eventually. People who miss Internet! They, youth, they want to be connected with rhe World.

They know they will die, and so, they will take the mullas with them. If they can't have internet, food, walks in the park... normal shit, well... I would not want to be the one runing iran and policing it for a longer while!
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>>530038541
Already crashing miga will have to wake up at some point. Dreaming only lasts so long.
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All US has to do it deploy AI to watch and analize, and bomb the living fuck with precision strategically. Infrastructure, base entrances, goods aka logistics!

And Wait.

Whwn Persian People do the kob internally, they will come to talk when they're ready to reconnect to the Internet, Logistics and Civilization!
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>>530036813
america losed
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>>530038573
>Most who hate the towel head mullahs btw.

Retard fell for the iranian diaspora propaganda. Most Iranians love their government more than they love either Israel or America, which is why amerimutts will get slaughtered the second they step foot in Iran.
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>>530038576
We will see. So far i seen huge pro-regime crowds on Iranian streets, not anti-regime ones. Iranians lived for decades in extreme poverty due to US sanctions. You can see cars from 70s there on streets. They are not consumerist drones.
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>>530038576
Day 7 of a 1 hour Iran regime change not regime change smo. Us can't attack civilians. They are still using their south ports. Imagine getting fucked so hard.
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>>530036813
They have thousands of missiles and drones and are reducing the Zionists detection and interception, why the hell would they even talk to the murderous scumbags ever again. They could possibly make a separate peace with the gulf states though, on the condition that all Zionists leave their territory.
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>>530038526
China is not retarded and can take a long view on things. 50 years is nothing for a multi-thousand year old civilization.
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>>530038661
When did illiterate boomers get access to 4chan?
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>>530036813
Iran will drag this into midterms, whatever it takes
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>>530038675
It's early, fear... regime has a hold.
Also, pride because of peers, neighbors have to pretend because they fear of losing face, or being reported like soviet commies... plus the girl school stuff is still fresh.

Time will change All of it with a bit of salt and pepper in the right places.

That regime is Evil.
Persian People want to connect with the World, and they will.
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>>530038732
They don't seem to comprehend distances. Nearest bomb release point to iran is 80 minutes away. They can't comprehend a Chevy driving out with a. Tel launcher firing it then going back inside. It's lost on them.
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How difficult is it to get into iran and join their military?
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>>530038789
The biggest evil (in objective terms) on this planet is the West.
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>>530038789
>Kill leader
>They still don't rise up
Mk I'm not sure which retard in the military came up with the idea if they bomb somebody they go after their leader instead of you. Please remove that person they are too dumb.
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Gonna be bumpy sabbath in the bunker tonight, more shabos goys might have to create some sort of diversion and get in the box tonight for our greatest ally
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Plus, right now iran is the talk of the town world wide... I would change that!

Once they no longer are the talk point, life moves on everywhere except in the region... tough, but necessary.

People will want their Internet and much, much more back.
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>>530038715
not only that, they also have all of BRICS full on pocket healing them and providing all of their intel. A conglomerate of the most resource abundant countries of this planet.
It's inherently imbalanced, as the US will have to fight directly whereas Iran will serve as a consolidated battle grounds for all of BRICS.
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>>530038868
>He does not understand the elaborate missile cities and how much shit is underground. It took 40 years to build it's actually quite cozy. Suggest you find some documentaries.
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>>530038716
The vast majority of Taiwanese are anti-reunification, and only a few % of Taiwanese Chinese are mainlanders who are pro-reunification.

China has a huge opportunity right now with the mutts distracted in the Middle East. China can easily annihilate whatever ships are left in the Pacific fleet that haven't been diverted to the Middle East. Waiting any longer is a risk.
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>>530038878
If they didn't have internet why are they still posting on telegram?
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time for Trump to abandon Israel
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>>530036813
Oh no, NAFO xisters, no one could've predicted this. It's not like the whole world is watching Russia farm NATO's equipment, and that the Gazan war (which is 141 square miles by the way, the size of a medium sized US city) is still ongoing.
I can't believe it, ooh noo... What are you gonna do when Iran wins?
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Something I often hear and think about... something brought up again... particles behave differently when being observed!

So are iranian people... things are hot and the world is watching. So intensities are high, and wanting to look resilient and confusing resilience with protecting their captor mullas who decimated Persia. It used to be Nice, it's an old Civilization... they absolutely tortured it to stone age.
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>>530038931
I have different theory. When mutts are now stuck in ME again, China will actually become more liberal/nice to Taiwan, while supplying Iranians with unlimited amount of components to build missiles/drones xD
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>>530038681
No need to attack civilians.
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>>530039021
>do nothing
>win

How do they keep winning by following this simple doctrine?
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>>530038867
They actually thought that Iranians would rise up against their country and betray it if Khamanei was killed. The US government unironically believed its own propaganda and the lies that Israel fed it.

Meanwhile Israel has made no claims of wanting regime change and has explicitly said it's only trying to degrade Iran's missile production capability.

I bet even Israelis are baffled by how retarded Americans are, and how American leaders will believe literally anything as long as it's Israel saying it.
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>>530037661
Indeed, it'll be way worse!
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>>530037748
Miggers are retarded enough to believe this. lmao
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>>530038005
The problem with that is that without boots on the ground there is no reliable way to stop Iran from attacking ships, sure the US and Israel can keep flying above every square inch of Iran but there is no way to keep doing that forever, now that the cat is out of the bag be assured that Iran will try to sink any cargo ship and oil tanker in the region and we may face a world where international shipment will be deemed too risky to be done through the red sea for years possibly. We are talking about big money going down the drain, for what? To build the 3rd temple? There will be a lot of pressure to stop this bullshit.
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>>530036813
As long as Iran can keep the Strait of Hormuz closed and other oil facilities under threat of being bombed, Iran will win this war by making the oil the US depends on to function too expensive. All the high prices people are going to be seeing will be because of the US war with Iran, which is at the behest of Israel. The inflation will be purely Jewish, and everyone needs to keep that in mind when they look at their grocery bill: calculate the goy tax.
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>>530038794
How far are rhe logistical roads that supply the nation with much needed external goods without which it's people will rebel?
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>>530039136
Wtf I wish I had a cozy pipeline supplying me with russian gas right now??
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>>530039168
Will they rebel, or will they look at the shortages and blame the Jews and join the fight against them?
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>>530038835
Think of it this way, if iranian regime was US... what would they do to All of us?

I rather have what I have the way I have it.

There is no nice superpowers, the nice ones in these stages of our collective development aka retardation die.
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>>530038546
you dont understand leverage, the pool is closed
gulf arabswine has already shutdown their refineries, there is no storage capacity
whats going to the red sea will soon be under threat when ansar allah joins the fray
you have no idea whats unfolding
just watch and enjoy the show
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>>530038867
People don't give a fuck about dead leaders, they larp that they do! They don't care either way to rise and shed their own blood having to kill first few waves or be killed of zombie pisslamic police.

But when there is scarce medicine, water, food and No More Internet... well, that is Personal!

Its all just so fresh, they are in a frenzy now, a lot of the world is watching them. Soon, eyes will fade....and still no internet, the young will be MAD!
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>>530036813
Iran is trying to bait us into a ground war because they know that's the only way they can retake the initiative. Thankfully it looks like, at least for now, Trump isn't going to take the bait.
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>>530039348
>Thankfully it looks like, at least for now, Trump isn't going to take the bait.
lol, lmfao even
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>>530038920
it might not be anudduh shoah, but they'll get sick it sooner than later
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>>530038957
That's crumbs, and those crumbs can't continue without supply chain! Plus, even if there is a drip it won't keep them still... time will stirn in them want to Normal life.

Regardless of price!

You have no Idea what war isz especially te psychology behind it. War in iraq and afganistan, totally different, people and times were different.

In iran, people have more ancient refinment and civilization, more consciousness, they were an organized nation before posslamics extremists.
Their youth and others won't be like the cave people mentality of others in the region.

They want more.
They actually want to connect with the World and not be isolated behind towels and bed sheets over them.
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>>530036813
Trump really fucked up. It's obvious now that they can't force regime change from the air, and Iran no longer want to negotiate because they have the upper hand by wrecking the global economy with their war on Gulf State oil. Trump has no off-ramp and he can only escalate. The Gulf State air defences are being depleted quickly by cheap, mass produced Shahed drones which Iran will never run out of.
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>>530037617
can't wait to hear the piggies squeal on live tv
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>>530039404
That's why I said "at least for now". Learn to read you functionally illiterate nigger.
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>>530039103
It can't be worse, Russia had to kill it's own, again! Because it always spares the eu elitehs to look nice.

It has an inferiority complex, so to look superior and more meek and kind and noble it has let one hundred million of it's own die, killing most themselves, and doing it Again.

It's a Fact.

It can never be worse than that.

Mind you, I consider ukraine to be Russia, but the truth is the truth.
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>>530036813
mutts in absolute panic
Afghanistan 2.0
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>>530036813
TO THE LAST BALOCHI
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>>530039697
Make another thread about it
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>>530039779
you'll just click it again.
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>>530037514
>Based.
They should ask for negotiations in Iraq and then bomb the Jewmericans who show up.
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>>530037653
>how this will stop the war?
The Ford isn't part of this war, because the zoomers on board clogged the shitters so they wouldn't have to go die for Israel.
This sabotage will only increase the longer that this war drags on
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>>530039227
Depends!

If we antagonize them directly... and it's Israel taking the front foot, especially in public then they will rebel against us all. To their demise and a lot of ours.

If the media is cut, silene reigns, news slows, Israel is Silent... US does most of the work, without much talk... and visibility to major city people in iran... bombs will fade in the background to them and they will see what people in war zones see.

The up close.
Which is, the Division, ranks, thieves, stealing of the little resources avelable by corrupt officials, police... they will see the Truth and what was always there but now is imediste, personal and oife threatening.

Ours do the same difference is we get to Live and have basics they don't. And that will become more apparent.

Iran grows most of it's food, but war tends to force pankc and theives and greed. So when food arrives they, corrpt people which are Most in fear will seek profit, to hoard, to give via nepotism and it will all be Up Close.

Short of nukes and tons of war forcing them into arms of pisslamic extremists more... the long winnable options are those.

And trust me, some are leaving no choice but longer options, not eternal but a bit longer! So, question is, who wants to win.

To win once.must understand all, including ones goal, what one has, the others, and all other parties and their interest. And, what the greatest weapons are, and those always are the weapon's that do the job.

When you fight outdoors you chose a long stick, morr distance btw you and opponent. When you fight indoors chose a short stick, more manouver in closer range. And be willing to shift therein and tools.
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>>530039631
As long as we brethez we can unfuck most things!
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>no way to destroy the missiles because they are in caves
>once total aerial surveillance drops those missiles can be used to threaten again

I'm starting to think trump is stuck
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>>530036949
i have seen this film before and it was long, gay and had a retarded ending
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>>530036949
just nuke it, both iran and israel
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>>530036813
its the right thing to do
a ceasefire would allow the kikes to replenish their missile stocks
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>>530038447
China actually wants the US in the pacific because the secret agenda of the US navy in the pacific, like the secret agenda of NATO in Europe, is to keep Germany/Japan down.
Without the US in the pacific region Japan will have free reign to rebuild its navy.
The lack of Japanese will overall is due to US bases sapping its morale too and Americans enforcing the official narrative of Pearl Harbor.
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>>530040353
>just nuke it, both iran and israel

Iran would survive it. Israel, not really. One Holocaust is enough, nobody needs another one.
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btw, the situation is kinda hilarious
the zog starts a war
gets its mouth beaten
>no, not like that
>ceasefire, ceasefire

what a bunch of fuckups
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>>530040178
nah. holy war time, operation epic fuck-up is in full effect
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>>530040533
Fuck it, it's getting too warm and days long! I don't care if we die in nuclear war. lol
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>>530040213
He is stuck. He would have to use ground forces to clear the Strait, but it would require a colossal build-up and he doesn't have the time for that
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>>530036949
This shit is gonna bankrupt the US
Time to go to Canada
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>>530037263
Lol why dont britbongs just "rise up"? You wont even be risking your life unlike Persians
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>>530037204
Oh, yes.
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>>530038573
They are already dead, moron.
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>>530036813
nukes it is then.
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>>530040996
please proceed
this is gonna be the end of the zog empire
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>>530036813
Based, you shouldn't negotiate with demons.
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>>530038541
>Pwease don kwai when this totally retarded scenario I just made up happens
I wont.
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>>530040353
Nukes suck. The Iranians alone could probably muster an army that would overwhelm the Zionists, once the USA fucks off with it's tail between it's legs.
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Iran says. Hahahaha
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>>530036813
Based Iran knows from the precious negotiations and the dirty tricks of war United States and Israel plays. Cluster bombs were use as a response. Keep using those B2s, clusters will rain on the flight deck rendering only VTOL capable flight vehicles to defend as whatever is left is sliding off the deck because the gyroscope and stabilizers are offline and engineering cant triage your orders because they are dealing with other shit right now. Literally.
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>>530036813
>iranian boots on US soil
KINO
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good thing the US wasn't intending on any negotiations or cease fire as they've stated multiple times.
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>>530037618
Deeply precise all over them little girl schools. Gaza 2.0. Ameritte or what.
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>>530041468
I’d love to see it - probably going to be Florida if anything or the keys. Coast guard and navy is everywhere here doing exercises including aircraft. So I have doubts if their feet even touch the sand…
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>>530039021
>>530039075

I didnt have to wait a lot for my theory being confirmed:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-06/china-mysteriously-cuts-pla-flights-into-sensitive-taiwan-areas

China just stopped pressuring Taiwan because Mutts got stuck in ME.

I am a genius xD
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>>530040678
Bud, we're already bankrupt. Lmao.
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>>530036949
Make it 400 years. Persia is war veteran compared to baby Murica
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>>530040102
>wall of chatgpt idiocy
I'm just gonna call you a retard. it's more than you deserve
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>>530036813
What's Iran's war goals then?
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>>530042643
probably expulsion of the US from the middle east and destruction of the jewish regime occupying palestein
dream big, is their motto
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>>530042643
You should care about the American war goals instead. We already know that the regime change failed utterly xD
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>>530040842
Iran just has a shitty RNG-roll at world-gen stage.
It either doesn't get any wind/clouds that bring rain, or the wind that arrives is dry as dirt.
Don't think about that too much.
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>>530037263
because it's on the prospect of Iranian women having OnlyFans, Iranians in the west are mega whores. no sensible man would want that.
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>>530041864
I think unfortunately that was a posslamic harem more than a shool, those poor soulsz being born women there.

mullahs don't mind having military under and children on top, preferably to them they call them wives. We capl them Children, but to them they are willing partners, apparently.

Cruel world.
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>>530037296
Theyre not persians anymore, fuck face woketard
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>>530036813
The so called "U.S. Government" is not agreement capable. Why on Earth would Iran, or anyone else, ever sign a contract with these evil scumbags? Everyone knows the criminals who masquerade as "government" simply cannot be trusted.
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>>530038789
The real evil is the US and their Jewish masters. Good for Iran to realize it and stop trying to negotiate.
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>>530042643
Survive
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>>530042643
>What's Iran's war goals then?
Kill kikes. It seems to be achieving those goals on a regular basis for now.
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Lool
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>>530043625
Up to them, but the world is restructuring... there is room for Civilian run goverment but not for mulla run goverment, simple as.

They will be obliterated, world will continue restructuring just like after wwii, with minimal direct issues btw superpowers.

Iran refused to restructure with minimal damage, it chose the hard road. Fine.

All proxies and other terains will have the same choice, from one superpower or another.
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>>530042643
Just wait it out
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>>530040678
It's worse here......
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>>530036813
Let's face it: surrendering to ZOG is gay
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>>530037617
>the country suffers from serious deindustrialisation,
Still the #2 country in the world on manufacturing so hardly. If you look at manufacturing output per capita we'd be higher than China.
>China is the biggest economy/industry in the world
Actually they don't have the biggest economy. You'd think for someone who just posted debt to GDP stats you'd know that our 30 trillion in GDP is a whopping 50% higher than China's or the combined EU's. As for "deindustrialization," I guess tech, AI and all the data centers going up are totally meaningless in your book. You can't be a "real" economy without widget factories rigged with anti-suicide nets.
>Bolanda
Oh, hi zigger.
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>>530037653
All so they could butt rage about some fat chick who had sex with game devs. These people are the biggest failures in human history
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>>530036813
good
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>>530038234
burning coals
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>>530036813
Its what the country was build for and prepared for generations long. Like kek the US is scaring them.
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>>530045242
Wao, another Shahed knock off. You do realize that these are so slow that they can be shot down with literally anything. In Ukraine they are bringing them down with 50 cal machine guns, and every other type of weapon. Old school AA flak cannons decimate these things. The lawn mower drone class is the biggest nothingburger. V1 cruise missiles were harder to deal with.
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>>530037748
Lmao you retards think they’re going to do everything you want them to if you just drop more bombs.
They’re calling your bluff and fighting til the last man. You fucked up.
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Iran will not be a forever war
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>>530036813
Cease fire? Negations? Lmao nice reframing.

It's called an unconditional surrender, that's all that's on the table
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>>530038058
They’ve already done that. In fact, they just sank a US oil tanker. And bombed a refinery few days ago.
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>>530036949
>Ready for another 20-year desert war?
that retarded orange nigger will be impeached by the start of next year when dems landslide the midterms and get a majority. newsom is already setting himself up as the economy-focused anti-war anti-zionist candidate because he's smart enough to see where public sentiment is heading, unlike that retarded orangutan.
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>>530049618
Trump was also that candidate. The reality is that dems will win and then as the pro jew party will double down
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>>530037459
tracking people who click your link dummy, they dont give a shit about you, youre the normie who submits their dna to 23jewsandme who doesnt belong here
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>>530036949
I can’t stop it from happening so fuck it why not?
No point in lamenting about things you have no control over
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>>530049684
Trump was never the “anti Zionist candidate”
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>>530049170
that account has struck meme gold
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>>530045242
Iran invented it as a dirt cheap drone that costs like $10k per drone.
Sold it to Russia who then started licensing it and making lots of revisions and improvements to being jet powered, larger warhead and now capable of carrying air to air missiles. As far as I know its still relatively cheap, more expensive than the Iranian version but still within that range due to mass production.
Ukraine gave a copy of the original to the US who now makes in very small numbers versions for $250k-500k.
China now makes them for apparently $30k

The price differences really show why the US is a failing empire with its massive corruption issues and being a vassal state.
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>>530036813
These guys are going to bleed America white - militarily and economically, if they launch a ground invasion.
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>>530049618
This; the writing is on the wall. Trump doesn't have the spine to commence cancelling midterms.
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>>530037687
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>>530040241
Wait til you see the one about collapsing empires
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>>530036949
More like a mountain war.
They are going to make Trump and Jews look fully retarded this time kek
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>>530040213
These ameritards really thought Iran didn’t prepare for the possibility of them coming around and blowing shit up.
What morons.
They probably only put out enough in harms way to convince the stupid Americans they obliterated everything then will release the other 95% of their stockpiles once the fools touch ground.
None of these nations, Iran, North Korea, Russia, are in a pissing war with the US. They absolutely know what they’re doing and America has two tv stars in charge of the military.
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>>530036813
Just irradiate their water supply and bomb their desalination plants. They will be decimated within a month and virtually extinct within 6.
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Can the US turn the entirety of Iran to rubble like in Gaza or are they too big? Those airplane bombers look nasty.
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>>530044041
More like destroy all your middle eastern assets and kick you the hell out lmao. You think Dubai wants anything to do with you after you got their airport bombed by randomly attacking the nation the entire Middle East knows didn’t even want a nuke? You’re retarded and your holy war ideology makes you a liability stupid American.
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>>530038661
Fucking this. US has Claude and Palantir at its disposal. And the full might of the Mossad. Iran is fucked agaist the epstein regime
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>>530049405
>Wao, another Shahed knock off. You do realize that these are so slow that they can be shot down with literally anything. In Ukraine they are bringing them down with 50 cal machine guns, and every other type of weapon. Old school AA flak cannons decimate these things. The lawn mower drone class is the biggest nothingburger. V1 cruise missiles were harder to deal with.

lmao yet no one shoots them down and they routinely obliterate targets worth enough money to cover the cost of 10,000 of them, with just one successful strike

lmao
>webm related, $1 billion radar
if the shahed cost 30,000

this strike alone covered the cost of 33,333 shaheds in value
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>>530049105
>If you look at manufacturing output per capita
Retard
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>>530053746
>Can the US turn the entirety of Iran to rubble like in Gaza or are they too big? Those airplane bombers look nasty.

Iran is essentially solid rock, good luck with your Korean war strategy of level all the above ground structures.....

its whats in the rock that counts
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>>530053617
they'll do the same to the surrounding nations. all the other desert nations need desalination plants too. go back to school kiddo
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>>530053746
too big. all the important stuff is in the mountains and our bombs don't do shit.
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>>530053759
and all Iran has to do is shutdown economic activity in the middle-east and the entire west will grind to a screeching halt

lmao, I bet Norway is seething right now, europeans will begin circling them likes wolves within the month, literally salivating for their resources
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>>530053617
>Just irradiate their water supply and bomb their desalination plants. They will be decimated within a month and virtually extinct within 6.

this israeli total war attitude is how the west will end literally and completely
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>>530038418
If you're not willing to genocide, bombs will not do anything
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>>530037529
Only millennials are net against strikes on Iran. War I dunno.
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>>530036949
Just not going to happen, if the situation becomes untenable Trump will drop a MOAB on something and then declare victory and withdraw all forces from the region. Just like with the Houthis
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>>530036813
>Cease-fire negotiations
We're seeking unconditional surrender.
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>>530054342
setting the goalpost at the eradication of the Iranian state is basically apocalyptic in scale

Iran has every justification to now unleash whatever they have to in order to not be annihilated...basically the same charter any nation has in a rational world

nothing could be stupider then setting the goalpost at the destruction of the Iranian state NOTHING

its purely and quintessentially jewish
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>>530036813
based, praying for iran
may israel and all its golems suffer humiliation
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>>530054317
its gone too far this time

there is no putting this one back in the bottle
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>>530054814
>setting the goalpost at the eradication of the Iranian state is basically apocalyptic in scale
It's really not. We can hit them literally anywhere in Iran. They can't hide in their tunnels like rats, their ships can't hide, all they have left are using schools as a base of operations. There is a ground invasion coming and even more bombs on top of that. You are getting fucked six ways from Sunday. Give it up, you lost.
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>>530040353
Just nuke France place is a nigger shit hole and the white people their blow fat nigger cocks
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>>530036949
If it happens it will make Iraq and Afghanistan look like nothing. Iran is much bigger and more mountainous than them.
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>>530037566
shoot and kill yourself jeet poo Nigger scum. Future mass grave occupant.
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>>530055399
Holy mother of cope and derangement.
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>>530037730
kike cock suckers will face the wall first, and then your kike overlords will have their brain matter painted on their faggot Roman wall they cry at
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>>530036813
It would be funny if we just dont lmao we just turn around and pretend they're not there
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>>530055701
Try telling that to Khamenei and his family, idiot.
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>>530055815
>just pretend the Hormuz strait isn't closed
lel
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>>530055930
Fuck it lmao Europe doesnt need oil since theyre all so green energy and all
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>>530055890
THe special military operation that was meant to conclude in one day is still ongoing. Enjoy (eventually) coming to grips with (another) forever war.
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>>530056347
>THe special military operation that was meant to conclude in one day
Where did you hear that from?
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>>530038418
not enough bombs
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>>530036813
Hopefully its all the migger jarheads that get sent to the meat grinder, they voted for this
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>>530054317
after explicitly screeching about regime change?

not saying a retreat isnt better than a ground invasion, it is, but he will look like a total clown
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>>530056048
yeah! Germany's NPPs can produce enough cheap electricity to cover for when the wind doesn't blow... wait
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>>530056439
The same place you've gotten your ridiculous beliefs. Your President and his lackeys.
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>>530057295
Wow, what a shocker. The Iranian supporter doesn't have a single fact to back up their own claim. Who would've thought.
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>>530056862
Did you forget how the Houthis situation played out? Where Trump claimed they had surrended so the operation was over, when nothing of the sort actually happened
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>>530036813
They should say that they will negotiate on board of an American carrier located in a convenient spot not far from the shore.
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>>530057413
Resorting to insults and rage. How American.
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>>530057825
I mean, you're not giving me much else to argue with other than "it came to me in a dream".
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>>530036813
What there is to negotiate. Americans are free to fuck off whenever they want.
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>>530036813
>but complete surrender
>>530036949
miga
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>>530037748
American military strategists really think they can just carpet bomb everyone in the world until objectives are reached without putting boots on the ground? How has that worked out over the last 60 years?
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>>530038526
>China considers Taiwan to be their own territory currently occupied by rebels
God, I wish England viewed the USA this way.
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>>530038418
They'd just bomb Israel daily and that rut of a fake country can take it
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>>530036949
Nuke Israel Now. They are an imminent threat.
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People laughing thinking the Jews won't conscript a million American men to do a full scale ground invasion of Iran

they would

they're already wheeling out the conscription laws now and sorting through the database of eligible men

I would not doubt if tomorrow hat Trump calls a draft. The second it looks like they're calling about to invoke the draft you better get the fuck out of this country. They won't hesistate to send hundreds of thousands of Americans to their deaths for Irael. And miga will cheer it on. This is no joke. It's deadly serious. Israel is in an existential crisis for existence there is fucking not nothing that they wouldn't sacrifice. They would completely destroy America if they thought it was necessary.

You're way too comfortable. America's world order is crumbling right before your eyes and being sacrificed for Israel. And you think they won't send you to die without hesitating
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>>530036813
Based.
Death to America!
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>>530038732
2016
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>>530054814
>>530055399
What idiot Americans like this don’t understand is they just gave Iran carte-blanche to launch their 80,000 drones at all the oil refineries in the Middle East, which the idiot Americans did not fortify and cannot stop because they don’t have interceptors. Meaning their shitty petrodollar will crash and royally fuck over their middle eastern investments. Good luck crashing your own economy because suicide brained Israel forced you to over some pedo tapes of your rapist president. Your hubris will be your downfall.
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>>530036914
You literally elected a Khazarian femoid.
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>>530042643
it's a very wide question.

1- survive for sure
2- become the regional dominant power. this means cleaning american bases and heavily weakening israel (wiping them off probably impossible because of nukes but there might be a smart way to deal with that).
3- bonus points: win so hard that iran becomes respected by all arabs, and start the long process of a pan-arabic alliance.
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>>530036949
Yes
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the weirdest part in all of this is that americans somehow think they're winning because they killed more like this is some cod lobby
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>>530037529
The war won't stop unless there are 67 votes to convict Trump in the Senate
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>>530036813

Israel bombed the last two attempts as negotiations kek.
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>>530037748
just like they stopped their nuclear program by bombing it, right?
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>>530037748
All Iranian leaders are now hiding 200 meters under the Alborz mountains
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>>530036949

Honestly this might be the reversal of the Ukraine war with China and Russia arming Iran.
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As long as Iran can blockade the Strait of Hormuz, they have the cards, and the pressure to negotiate is not on them. Its really that simple.
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>>530036813
>Iran just officially rejected any cease fire negotiations
Can you blame them?
>>530037264
This.

And quite frankly given the US admins actions and behaviour I think most nations see agreements with the US (of all kind) as something that carries very little reliability these days.
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>>530036813
it's ogre
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>>530060996
There is no sign that China has been or is arming Iran. It's only the Russians. Don't ask me why, it does not make sense to me.
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>>530040495
Luckily there's some semblance of a representative democracy. Otherwise the Iranian's would be boned, but I suppose that went into their calculations. Americans and Israelis have no appetite for thousands of dead soldiers, at least not their own.
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>>530037296
>but watching that chink professor I understand why now
who are you talking about
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>>530060755
>entire government wiped out
>Berserk wannabe Ganishka mother fucker ayatollah wiped out, along with his successors
>military being wiped out
>first torpedo kill since ww2
>somehow the US isn't winning
>hasn't even been a week yet and stupid 3rd world trash and fat ugly stupid leftists are saying it's another forever war

You 3rd world trash really think getting the shit bombed out of you for 30 years and then the people bombing you leaving because we bombed everybody that needs to be bombed is a victory, you're fucking retarded

Afghanistan and Iraq had their souls ripped out and will for the next 100 years be gimped countries incapable of any power projection whatsoever

This was the goal of those wars, and we accomplished them, stupid 3rd world and leftist trash such as yourself thinks every fucking war has to be like ww2 where you roll into the enemy capital and win the war like it's a game, doesn't work like that 99% of the time throughout history you fucking moron

I'll just quote a canadian faggot that said it best

>If you kill your enemies, they win

Yeah we know this is the rhetoric you disgusting worthless trash use, and we don't care, we're going to keep killing you
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>>530036813
Trump really committed the greatest blunder in all of history, holy shit.
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>>530038418
If Hormuz remains closed, it will cause global economic damage
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>>530049105
>copium the post
yeah not reading your jewish tranny worship
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>>530060755
If someone breaks into your house. Kills you and half your family. And leaves. Did you win? You're such a stupid faggot.
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>>530061081
They can't, no more navy you retard
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>>530037748
>this time our strategy that has never worked will totally work guys!
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>>530037263
It's weird how diasporoids who fled the country after a popular uprising aren't representative of the people there. Who would've thought?
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>>530036813
Based

I want to see dead mutts with a maga hat. More, the better
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>>530039142
>Iran will win this war by making the oil the US depends on to function too expensive.
Everyone - including Iran- depends on access to oil. You suggest that Iran and its allies won't feel the same pains as the US
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>It's weird how diasporoids who fled the country after a popular uprising aren't representative of the people there. Who would've thought?

Then why are they hunting down your buddies in the IRGC like dogs? What about this guy, you gonna tell his family the Iranian people don't hate him and the government he works for? Lmao

You're so popular people are ripping you to shreds just to get a piece of you! Hahahahaha fucking faggot
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>>530061259
Napoleon going into Russia still tops it, but this has potential for sure. Couldn't win the war against CIA and Mossad in his own country, so decides to bomb brown people thinking it will be an easy win. Oof.
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>>530036813
PERSIA HAS RISEN
BLOODLINE OF GILGAMESH
DEATH TO THE GREAT SATAN
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>>530039631
>they have the upper hand by wrecking the global economy with their war on Gulf State oil
Iran cannot sustain this war indefinitely. Their country and infrastructure is being bombed. They have more incentive to reach a truce. War is ugly. Don't pretend that Iran is committed to a lengthy battle involving its own homeland
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Damn, /pol/ really has changed.
Old /pol/ would have loved Trump's 2nd term.
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>>530061874
When was this? Is this recent or from the protests a few weeks ago? I want to see airan crash and burn just so these brownoid Iranian bootlickers can see the
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>>530061923
Ye ok mr eglin airforce base guy
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>>530036813
What's the point of negotiating with Americans? Every time someone does, they kill the negotiation team or the heads of state. Iran should settle for nothing and take everything.
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Yes! I can’t wait for my grandkids to finally get a taste of reality in the mountains of Iran.
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>>530061875
They think their democrat allies will come to their rescue, they're sorely mistaken

Democrats are going to be imprisoned as terrorist if they try to support Iran, or oppose the war

They don't have rhetoric on their side, the IRGC is an objectively evil organization and the world is better off without them, you can't argue against this
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>>530060774
given how rapidly the Republicans are torching the goodwill with which they were brought into office, I suppose it's possible the Democrats could win 20 seats in November. If that happens, Trump is toast. And he'd fucking deserve it.
I'd have to look at prior Senate swings, but any party picking up 20 (even less if some Republicans turn on him, which would make me smile) seats seems unlikely.
I almost hope it happens though, fuck this shit. I hate the left with every fiber of my being, but I hate grifting "right wing" whores even more.
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>>530036813
>attack a country unprovoked
>hey let’s have peace talks bro
Lmao the US leadership is so fucking stupid it’s hilarious
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>>530061467
>navy
Who needs that? Are you a tard or something, they have drones for that.
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>>530049618
>that retarded orange nigger will be impeached by the start of next year
Probably. China owns half our politicians.
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>>530062069
"Peace through strength" combined with offensive bombing campaigns is cartoonish 1984 shit. Makes Iraq war propaganda seem like Shakepeare.
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>>530061923
>Damn, /pol/ really has changed.
>Old /pol/ would have loved Trump's 2nd term.
Zoomers are the dumbest cattle in the history of the west and can't help falling for any shill campaign or "influencer" narrative, not to mention the most laughable turd world cope imaginable.
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>>530036813
Might heed the call of the ummah fr.
Imagine shooting zogbots lmfao
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>>530062069
>>attack a country unprovoked
>>hey let’s have peace talks bro
>Lmao the US leadership is so fucking stupid it’s hilarious
Brownoids can't understand the concept of leverage.
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>>530061990
that is what they are doing. they know we can't do shit since their stuff is all in the mountains. it's either a ground war or we give up it seems like.
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>>530061081
>As long as Iran can blockade the Strait of Hormuz
This effects the entire world and will not benefit Iran long term
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>>530061467
The strait of Hormuz is less than 60 kilometers wide. The navigable part is even narrower. No navy or air force is required to block it.
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>>530036813
Iran thinks 1) Trump doesnt have the stomach for a ground invasion. 2) They can't continue carpet bombing. 3) They won't target civilians. So why not just hang on until its economically unviable for the US and Israel to continue, until the rest of the world starts ramping up pressure to end it. Trumps got some big decisions to make, he's going to have to go pretty hard to get this over the line
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I just hope Russia gets dragged into war there's hope for a thermonuclear exchange
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Iran knows that they can force the US into a land invasion which is wildly unpopular and basically unwinnable, but US has no other choice, because without a land invasion the strait remains closed.
US will sooner have civil unrest and chunk of the military refusing to participate, than they can fight another +20 year war.
This is what happens when you go in high on your own propaganda about Iranian people being ready to topple their government.
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>>530062051
I voted for this you faggot, this is increasing the goodwill, the republicans actually do what their voters want

You people are so fucking pathetic and stupid, you're going to get creamed in november and every election after that

We just went through 4 years of Biden don't try to pretend like the left gives a fuck about America or Americans you just want to protect your globalist agenda that gives precedent to literally any fucking brown person over the native white population

Go fuck yourself you stupid fat cowardly fuck, lift some weights and touch some grass you fucking loser
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>>530062128
And we have lasers to shoot down those drones you stupid 2nd world trash

You will NEVER beat us at military technology, it's pathetic they even tried
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>>530061645
>You suggest that Iran and its allies won't feel the same pains as the US
Who are Iran's allies?
Russia? A petrostate that benefits greatly from high oil prices.
China? A highly electrified state whose primary energy mix is only 18% oil and who also happens to be the world's leading supplier of oil substitutes.
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>>530059924
Blah blah aint no one reading all your bitching plus you’re fucking brown LOL
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>>530062509
It likely benefits Iran more than "unconditional surrender" or whatever Trump's latest demand is
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>>530036813
Most of the world is aware that Trump is facing midterms, and potentially gets his balls snipped in November. It's not that long to hold out for, in terms of potential war situations.
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>>530059224
Brown nigga. People are going to frag the officers. Stop using the internet as your only outlook on life. People hate this cringy government
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>>530062674
you have severely miscalculated. I am by no means a leftist. I want every spic deported. Every illegal immigrant gone. No exceptions. I want reinvestment in American manufacturing, and end to US foreign aid, and closing our borders until further notice. I want complete withdrawal of US military from the Middle East and an end to US aid to Ukraine.
I voted for Trump in 2024 because he was the closest to those goals of mine, though him being a slave to Jews was a downside. I thought he'd prioritize Americans a bit more than Israel. I was mistaken about that.

>Democrats are worse
maybe, but if Republicans and the right wing establishment are not severely punished for their fuckups, they'll just keep doing the same shit.
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>>530063008
It will since the democrats have been disavowed by their supposed deep state allies, no one is going to support someone saying they're going to tie your hands and make Americans less safe, democrats have no power right now and are having all their scams exposed, they'll lose and they'll continue to lose because they aren't even a real political party they're just a massive scam and money laundering operations, literally all of them are criminals

Nobody but your faggy little bots give a fuck about the democrats anymore, and your impotent threats of treason after the midterms will get you in hot water with some very powerful people that don't have to worry about elections to keep their power, be afraid of what you speak in these coming months friend, it might just get you disappeared
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>>530063102
Shut up little bitch I ain't reading all that bullshit, fuck you and your worthless opinion you Nick Fuentes dick sucker, faggot
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The party's over, I guess.
I wish Trump did all this shit in his first term.
Also the new captcha is absolute dogshit.
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>>530037617
Very well written.
I dont know if its totally accurate but its on point enough to make people think twice. We are not the economic powerhouse we once were.
Still super dangerous but for how long we dont know.
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>Party's over

You fucking bet it is buddy
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>>530063102
>I voted for Trump in 2024 because he was the closest to those goals of mine, though him being a slave to Jews was a downside. I thought he'd prioritize Americans a bit more than Israel. I was mistaken about that.
We're all real proud of you for discovering jewish political power on tiktok in late 2023
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>>530063719
that's hyperbolic, you inflammatory nigger, you.
I'm not and wasn't surprised Trump turned out to prioritize a foreign country over the betterment of his people, I know all about the JQ and have for almost 20 years. It's simply disappointing.
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Cry more about Israel you stupid faggots, as long as the Suez canal exists we will have an ally in the region we give money and arms to to ensure that fucking canal stays open and stays friendly

Keep up your impotent whining about Israel thinking you're doing Americans a favor, we know what your handlers real angle is and we're not letting it happen, ever

We control the worlds trade, this is non negotiable
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>>530063919
>I'm not and wasn't surprised Trump turned out to prioritize a foreign country over the betterment of his people,
This isn't what happened at all. You're just stupid and thus susceptible to being mindraped by influencers and shill ops.
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>>530062845
>China? A highly electrified state whose primary energy mix is only 18% oil and who also happens to be the world's leading supplier of oil substitutes
Do all the cargo ships that distribute chinese goods globally run on electricity. Oil runs the global economy. US has experienced $5 gas. Some countries will have a hard time importing oil. The US can manage a long c9nflict better than Iran. Iran is a developed country. Their population cannot survive without electricity and fuel. Don't minimize their situation
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>>530036813
If it's true that China is aiding with intel, murricans are cooked.
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>>530064103
How is it not? How does the Iran War benefit America? I can see how it benefits Israel, but how does it make American lives better?
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>>530064176
Perhaps a job for the Spaceforce
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>>530061124
>There is no sign that China has been or is arming Iran
Iran is arming itself. China just provides the materials.
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>>530064225
>I can see how it benefits Israel, but how does it make American lives better?
Iran's been a thorn in our side for nearly 50 years and is really the only country standing in the way of peace in the middle east at this point. There are also pretty major geopolitical implications like cutting off (the rest of) China's supply of cheap oil. Thinking that Israel is pulling the strings here is babby's first redpill tier.
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>>530064225
With Iran gone we have complete defacto monopoly over the Middle East and a huge portion of the worlds Oil..
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>>530064176
>If it's true that China is aiding with intel, murricans are cooked.
Not China, whose allies are getting taken out one by one while they do absolutely nothing!
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>>530062787
>And we have lasers to shoot down those drones
Then why aren't you using them to keep the strait open?
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>>530064591
>the only country standing in the way of peace in the middle east at this point
wrong. That would be Israel.
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>>530064662
Just like Iraq, right?
are you genuinely this retarded or just pretending?
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>>530064671
China has no allies, they have customers and they'd rather give their gold and resources to them in exchange for tech and information than give it to the US in exchange of "freedom and democracy". They're just the better vendors.
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>>530065061
>wrong. That would be Israel.
Maybe before the Abraham Accords when Trump convinced their former enemies in the region to recognize them.
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>>530065172
>they'd rather give their gold and resources to them in exchange for tech and information than give it to the US in exchange of "freedom and democracy".
And how is that tech and intel working out for Venezuela and Iran?



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