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don't question the authenticiy of this
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>>530037450
time wasting flerf thread. dont answer
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>>530037450
I don't question it because it's Jeffrey Epstein who didn't kill himself
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>>530037450
gaeeee
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>>530037450
RIP based cameraman. You served your country well. o7
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>>530037488
Flat earth was never implied just the moon landing being faked
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>>530037488
>the government lied about everything except this

weird position to take, also not sure what this had to do with flat earth
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>>530037450
What do you mean? It's just Freemason Science.
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>>530037605
What you think he did after, while his air lasted
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Crazy how we just lost this technology
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Kubrick filmed the landing using dried cement as Moon dust at a studio/facility. He tells you in The Shining.
https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2019/07/18/how-stanley-kubrick-staged-the-moon-landing-and-other-stories/
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>>530039379
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>>530037450
You laugh now. But one day NASA is going to find all the plans and telemetry data they lost and they are going to put a woman on the moon. And she is going to play golf and ride around in a buggy just how the men did all those decades ago.
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>>530037450
>don't question the authenticiy of this
why would anybody question it?
are we supposed to see something wrong on the gif?
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>>530039379
>>530039426
he whole "moon landing" debacle is an extremely easy discussion to win, let me show you how it works, you do it like this:

do you think its possible to land men on the moon?
The only 2 possible answers are:
>YES, its possible to land men on the moon
and
>NO, its not possible to land men on the moon
if the answer is:
>YES, its possible to land men on the moon
then we did it.
>NO, its not possible to land men on the moon
why?

and there ya go, glad i could help.
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>>530039427
two more weeks they can find it
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>>530039466
You cannot leave this Realm.
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>>530039626
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>>530037450
>1pbtid
>memeflaggot
All fields dum-dums.
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>>530039626
>a flattie, with his retarded nonsense
its not flat.
evidence:
>rent a boat and sail around the globe
globe proven.
>use the globe map
>does it work? are the distances correct?
>yes
globe proven
>look at the ISS flying over your head at night
>is it going straight? or in a circle?
>straight
globe proven.
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>>530039648
its not flat.
evidence:
>rent a boat and sail around the globe
globe proven.
>use the globe map
>does it work? are the distances correct?
>yes
globe proven
>look at the ISS flying over your head at night
>is it going straight? or in a circle?
>straight
globe proven.
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>>530039626
>>530039648
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>>530037450
Stop being a retarded nigger.
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>>530037450
If it wasn't authentic, it wouldn't be so poorly framed.
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>>530039435
Once you import enough niggers, remote controls starts to seem like magic.
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>>530037639
doesn't need to be. its the same idiots posting this crap over and over again, exactly the same as the flat earth shills.

>>530038989
you're a flat earther and you're here in another copy-paste moonhoax thread, as usual. thats the point.
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>>530039427
one day a moonhoax shill wont say such a bunch of stupid crap. wont hold me breath though
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>>530039245
He must have made a giant leap to get back to the space shuttle
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>>530037450
I won't.
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>>530040229
traveled through time as well.
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>>530037605
When it comes to these threads I can never be sure if someone is being serious or just being funny.
Do you really think that there was a man operating the camera?
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>>530039427
>the plans and telemetry data they lost
Can you tell us what plans and telemetry data those are? Be specific.
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>>530037450
Airtimes III will put all you conspiracy loons to bed once and for all.
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>>530037450
>OP believes in "the moon"
Ngmi
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If we never went to the moon, then who carved this dragon on the moon that I found a couple days ago scanning recent satellite imagery?

https://gigapan.com/gigapans/213349/snapshots/622545
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>>530040591
nothing will do that. they just make up new retarded reasons and convince themselves its all fake again and again. its a cult belief system bordering on mental illness more than anything else.
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>>530040872
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>>530040872
obviously dragons did that. dragons have been to the moon.
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>>530040918
So the dragons are hiding inside the moon and thats why we’ve never been able to find them?
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>>530039466
do you think it is possible for you to fuck your sister?
the only 2 possible answers are
>YES, it is possible to fuck your sister
and
>NO, it is not possible to fuck your sister
if the answer is
>YES, it is possible to fuck your sister
then you did it
>NO, it is not possible to fuck your sister
why?
and there ya go, glad you were retarded
according to your "logic", we all have commited suicide
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>>530040570
according to NASA, the important stuff
funny enough, the guys defending NASA imply that NASA lies about having lost the tech and documentation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbUtpmoYyiQ
let's see how NPCs will ignore or relativate this dude
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>>530041277
Rekt
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>>530041201
i think they all fucked off to Venus where its warmer and more conducive to dragonly health.
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>>530041475
You didn't answer the question. That means you don't know.

Now a hypothetical question: suppose your IQ was actually above 80, and you could actually specifically name what information was lost. How is that in any way relevant to future moon missions?
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Wag the moon doggy
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>>530040570
The reason I know you're a jeet is because you took his nonsense literally
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>>530040137
I have no opinion on the shape of the earth. What does the moonlanding being faked have to do with flat earth? You're deflecting, why is that?
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>>530041719
because of the point i just made and yet you either missed it or are ignoring it. its the same quality bullshit spammed up on the board to shit it up, just like flat earth is and has been for years. always the same threads, same posters, same memes. over and over again.
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>>530039427
>two more weeks
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>>530041598
>he want me to have insider admin codes from NASA to talk about how they destroyed (accordning to them) the tech used to do moon landings
are you the e-bike cuck?
NASA said they destroyed the tech one needs to achieve a moon landing
ergo, the important tech is gone, according to their lore
for non-idiots, this is a clear cock and bull story, used to mask the fact that they never had the tech to moonland to begin with
"my homework was eaten by the dog saar, but i have done it, pinky promise"
but i'm glad that i was correct in the "they ignore the NASA guy"-thing
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>>530041939
why do you have to understand that one thing that one guy said years ago in the most retarded way possible? whats wrong with you? he said that it, the production lines etc, was destroyed and it would be painful (expensive and time consuming) to build it all back up again to the point it was at during the height of Apollo. and he was right - it has been expensive and time consuming and the lander module isn't even ready yet.

thats all he meant. any non-moron or non-shill can easily see that.
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Neil Armstrong was literaly embarassed to talk about his "trip to the moon". You have a bunch of other astronauts that "went to the moon" that no one knows or cares because they know it's fake and gay shit.
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>530041598
>and you could actually specifically name what information was lost
was too stupid to register with me
"tell me what info got lost" is higher class retardation. you must be the e-bike cuck
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wow you must really like questioning authenticity
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>>530041939
If you don't use tech for years and years, it decays, and eventually is destroyed
If you ever had a job in any industry lz you would know you can't just say "hey this company did this 50 years ago, why can't we just do it again today?"
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>>530041794
I don't even know what your point is, I've never really interacted too deeply with these sort of threads, I've just never been mentally ill enough to believe that the government has collectively lied about everything except the moonlanding specifically. I don't really understand the zeitgeist required to have that much of a cognitive dissonance, is all.
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>>530041939
>NASA said they destroyed the tech one needs to achieve a moon landing
No they didn't. You didn't even watch the clip you linked to.
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>>530042172
he told us "we destroyed the tech"
you must have a very special mind to ignore this sentence
this is an out for a lier anon
>"i can bench press 400 kilo"
>>"cool, show me"
>"nah, i have pulled a muscle"
>*never goes through for years to bench 400 kilos*
you would be the guy that tells everyone that that guy can press 400, becuase he told you so
>"why would he lie?"
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What has the moon to offer anyways? it's not like humanity has the tech to terraforming, even in 2026 which is a bit surprising.
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A moon hoax thread? Damn, the Iran war must be going even worse for Kikerael than I thought
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>>530042181
>they were embarassed
>if i cherry pick what i look at

There was plenty of laughing and joking throughout the press conference
>Laughing at the sped-up footage of them setting up TV (23:18)
https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=1398 [Embed]
>More laughing at sped-up footage (25:12)
https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=1512 [Embed]
>Michael Collins admitting that he wasn't sure it was going to be a happy ending, eliciting smiles (39:49)
https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=2389 [Embed]
>Was ever a time they were spellbound (47:42)
https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=2862 [Embed]
>What were your feelings, did you think you were on Earth? (48:55)
https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=2935 [Embed]
>How will you restore normalcy in your life after this? (1:03:40)
https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=3820 [Embed]
>We plead guilty to enjoying ourselves (1:09:02)
https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=4142 [Embed]
>Admitting they played music for the guy in Mission Control (1:23:01)
https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=4221 [Embed]


>>530042290
>has collectively lied about everything
no, thats bullshit too and a sign of being moron. entire government offices dont lie about anything at all. take the weather offices for example. they constantly produce useful accurate information for the public and also for private uses for a fee. wheres the lie in that? the government runs a bunch of stuff here that involves no lying at all, from the electric company to transportation systems to getting chuds their welfare payments on time or managing a national airline.

the 'government lies about everything' meme is stupid and shows that the holder of that meme doesn't know how to think.
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>>530042582

Ahh who cares about the war. I mean if you turn off your computer or phone its like tis not happening at all
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>>530041277
>retard cant answer with a simple YES or NO
moon landing deniers and flatties keep losing.
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>>530042480
>he told us "we destroyed the tech"
Why do you refuse to tell us what this "the tech" is? You've been asked over and over to describe what specific technology was supposedly destroyed that prevents us from going back to the moon.

Pretend just for one post that your IQ is above 80.
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>>530042274
decline is not "we destroyed it"
as i said, it's funny how you guys attack NASA to defend NASA, instead of seeing through a really shitty tall tale
>"yeah, we did this and that"
>>"cool, could you do it again?"
>"no, we can't lol"
>>"wow, you're still supercool for doing this and that" <-----(you)
>>530042355
>No they didn't. You didn't even watch the clip you linked to
saar? pic related saar. why lie so boldly and idiotic saar?
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>>530037450
oh the footage from the radioactive hellscape taken by hardened 1960s cameras looks suspicious? they should have brought imax cameras.
The moon is actually made of iron razor dust that never erodes. And dawn on the moon has a nice sunrise with sheets of thin lightning racing across the surface, the same energy that makes aurora borealis, but on the surface not in the sky. I'll believe it since the flat earth crew has no ideas other than "nothing is up there at all." What is space made out of? Fraud. What is it instead? Superstition. That's flat earth in a nutshell.
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Why the fuck does it piss nasalovers off so much that I don't believe we've ever been to the moon? Holy shit, why does it even matter? There's now an even more annoying psyop to call moontruthers "anti-white" spread by the likes or John Goyle and Auron Fagattire
t. on my toilet
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>>530042513
Yeah learning how to do things that might lead to other things is pointless
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>>530042645
You're veering off drastically. Neither commies nor niggerloving americans ever went to the space or the moon, if the cold war didn't end they'd be one upping each other by going to Mars, Venus, other universes, etc. You're either a paid shill or just a lost and confused boomer - Your government doesn't care about you, you don't matter, the west has been dead ever since 312 CE, with a short interval of life and beauty from 1933 to 1945, before returning to its nihilistic worthless state.
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>>530042827
>that technology
You still refuse to answer what this technology is. Why is that?
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>>530037587
lithium is all time low faggot
you with the rest of the 4chan neckbeards aka /pol/ got to check your watches and read some
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>>530037450
Death to israel and their muttmerican Dogs
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>>530042820
>Why do you refuse to tell us what this "the tech" is?
>"why do you refuse to share info that is destroyed? you don't having the lost info means your take is invalid"
jeet, when an info is lost, we don't know about that info anymore, otherwise it would not be lost
i hope you understand it this time, but i have my doubt, since you're a jeet
>>530042948
see above
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>>530042480
no, you're ignoring what was meant as a way to keep pushing your retarded bullshit. this time you're not using the 'it was the jews did it for money' routine, instead constantly repeating this one over and over again with the exact same determination.

what was destroyed exactly, do you think? they have unused production versions of all the Apollo vehicles from the saturn 5 to the command module and the LM and the space suits and a bunch of mothballed F1 engines and on and on and on. so that stuff wasn't destroyed was it? so what was destroyed that would be painful to build back? obviously the huge network of private contractors who were building and testing every part of the required equipment, all the supply chains, all the teams of engineers who were specialized on their particular part and could ensure it was working and safe.

all of that.

and you've had this explained to you fucking loads of times before. and yet here you are, peddling the same old shit again.

this is the action of a shill.

>>530042909
no, i was talking about the exact thing under discussion....only you dont want to talk about that anymore which is why you're the one changing the subject drastically. you're a flat earth retard and a shill. fuck you.
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>>530043031
no tech was destroyed or lost.
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>>530042827
The mythical "lost technology" is probably those chips hand-woven by busty maiden brides of WWII veterans. RIP. There's really no use for it other than historical curiosity and proof of concept (proof of concept is always important). Bringing back the lost technology hand-woven microchips wouldn't exactly be a modern solution.
I suppose NASA is more into economical reusable concepts like the Shuttle. I miss the Shuttle. Flying a fat uneven bastard like that took those miracle vector engines that could pivot still and absolutely dump power.
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>>530042827
To make a total guess at this "destroyed tech", every part would be specially made with various machines and tooling and moulds and shit. They couldn't just buy moon rocket parts they had to specially make them or get them made and maybe he just means they threw out the stuff after it wasn't needed any more. Anyway you would have to start all over from scratch to make a modern version, you're not gonna just recreate the 60's model to go back now.
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>>530042989
The floods in Appalachia removed most of the resistance to strip mining the area for lithium..... almost seems intentional....
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>>530040435
It always starts as a joke then get's picked up by those who can't tell. Flat Earthers, for example.
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They only say this is fake because Whites were the ones who did it.
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>>530042909
>Neither commies nor niggerloving americans ever went to the space or the moon
prove it flerf faggot
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>>530037488
Mods banned a thread against circumcision but let this up
What’s happened to this site???
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>>530043413
>those chips hand-woven
yeah, those are a good example of the main point - theres zero point recreating the original Apollo vehicles and all the equipment used in them, because its all old and heavy and no longer made by anyone, and wouldnt generally be suitable for the longer duration missions planned as part of the new lunar program.

these shills know this perfectly well but keep repeating these retarded talking points of theirs for years on end all the same.
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>>530043087
>no, you're ignoring what was meant
oh, now we have to do interpretations of what "we destroyed the tech" means
nigger, this is spokesperson for NASA, you could well assume that if he wanted to say "we lost the tech" or "we have problems with our aging equipment and in need of a ten year refreshing program" or anything else, he would have
but no, he chose the wording "destroyed", a wording holding weight
>what was destroyed exactly, do you think?
waht do i know? i know that the guy who's job is to talk to the public is telling that they destroyed the tech. he was not even pressed ind you. he was asked if he would like to go up there
very easy and no need for five dimensional interpretional wicca rituals
>>530043180
and yet another "fight the NASA to protect the NASA" guy
you accuse those you defend of lying anon, just like me
or i misread you and you are on my side in the "there was no tech to begin with"-stance
>>530043413
the NASA guy makes it very clear, that "we" are not currently able to do what was "possible" (i doubt that) fifty years ago
it obviously is a cover for not being able to go there in the first place, a defense claim like a pupil claiming his homework was eaten by a dog
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>>530043719
anti circumcision is anti jew
anti moon is anti white
figure it out yourself
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>>530043719
Flat Earth is borderline and generally belongs in /x/. But hey it's /pol/, how many rules could there be? Flerf gets out of hand every once in a while but it's nothing new. Shills & trolls.
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>>530043087
Why do you bother posting dozens of times in every space thread you see? Nothing changes so why keep bothering to such a fanatical degree?
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>>530043487
>Anyway you would have to start all over from scratch to make a modern version,
and they did. thats what the Orion capsule is. its the new version of the Apollo Command Module, and the associated service module. although sadly it was designed from the beginning to not enter low lunar orbit like Apollo did.
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>>530037450
You can question whatever you want. It's just that your answers might be retarded.
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>>530043825
right, and now you avoid talking about the subject, your own subject, in any detail at all.

you just choose to keep repeating yourself because you know how stupid the point is. what a fucking pathetic shill you are. why do you do this shit all time?
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>>530043844
looks like an apple
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>>530037450
There's nothing to question. Plenty of images taken from orbit in later years show the landing sight and the base left behind.
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>>530043882
i hate shills and spaceflight is a hobby subject for me. im also happy to talk about the venusian dragons if you prefer
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>>530043825
>the NASA guy makes it very clear, that "we" are not currently able to do what was "possible" (i doubt that) fifty years ago
A space shuttle is a bathroom. In 1960 it cost $5,000 to build a bathroom. Today it costs California $1 million to build a bathroom in a park. The biggest obstacle to conventional space travel is the same obstacle to rebuilding our highways or Mississippi's waterlock systems. Public works involve a list of agencies, and everyone is ready to take their cut of public funding. Feasibility studies, environmental impact studies, contractor surveys, and offices and secretaries for everyone.
Still if you want to build a car out of 1960s tech you get a hot rod and out of 2020s tech you get the Kia boys. Me? I like Hollow Earth because I suspect there are other dimensions that might map relatively well over it. For serious traveling portals are the way to go but simply moving laterally at the same rate at which you fall is a beautiful thing. Remember, you're going straight, and spacetime is curved.
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Its possible that we went there and also some stuff is faked. The moon would be a good monitoring station for aliens.
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>>530043487
if it were only the tech they claim to have destroyed, it's all the telemetry, basically all dosumentation is "gone"
i would assume that the data never existed in the first place
what do if someone asks about said data of the most important scienitific mission of humankind? "oops we lost it" is what a lier would asnwer and letting the liar away with said lie tells me that a big groupd of powerful men knew it was a hoax
if stuff comes out and nothing happens, you know it's real (like epstein or detroux)
>>530043980
you want me to do interpretations of something very clear
i refuse and take the one you defend by his word
he said NASA destroyed the tech, on tape. i don't know what else you want me to do
and repetition is important, since you guys never respond to an arguement, just moving goal posts and doing everything in your power to ignore the sources you ought to defend
>>530044201
>In 1960 it cost $5,000 to build a bathroom. Today it costs California $1 million to build a bathroom in a park.
i don't know how fiat money and inflation are related to this
ease of manufacturing, better materials research and improved computing should make is easier today than it was in the sixites
>I like Hollow Earth
for me it's antarctica. dönitz talked about warm fresh water seas and paradiseses beyond the big ice
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>>530044023
i'm sort of here now, there was a site wagthemoondog that really gave a strong case for it being faked, but at this point they would've had to had drones on the moon to be able to do all the "later proof". so it's just impossible to say
https://www.scribd.com/document/728079673/Wagging-the-Moondoggie-Dave-McGowan

written by the same guy that did programmed to kill btw
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>>530044266
I actually think the recent Chinese moon landing with their rover is highly highly suspicious. They put something up on the moon but I think it's basically immobile. My friend says their rover moves about an inch every day.
>>530044528
It's not inflation, it's regulatory expansion. Taxpayer money is like free almost. Don't you want to answer emails?
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>>530044266
>Its possible that we went there and also some stuff is faked.
its very possible "human" missions are impossible and they use drones to actually do everything as well
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>>530044528
>i don't know what else you want me to do
stop your retarded shilling campaign and understand what the guy meant, not your stupid fucking idiocy.
i already told you the vehicles themselves were NOT destroyed...so what are you saying WAS destroyed? why wont you even try to interact with the subject that you keep bringing up? fuck you shill.
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>>530043825
is it possible to land men on the moon?
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>>530044695
>"human" missions are impossible
?
why?
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>>530044070
>im also happy to talk about the venusian dragons if you prefer
It would be better banter and less ultra serious. This is 4chan by the way. Some of your posts make me think you are going to pop a blood vessel.
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>>530044819
im angry. angry about shills.
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>>530044654
I remember in Obama days there was a mission where they blew up something on the moon, allegedly to create a cloud that they could see if there was water in it or not with spectrographic whatnots
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>>530044882
dont remember one that recently but they did crash several used stages of Apollo into the surface for research purposes.
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>>530037450
Why would you? That paper mache and scotch tape is really high quality.
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>>530045208
well yeah, why would you need anything else?
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>>530044970
I think it was this, dunno why a france site is the only thing I can find but whatever
https://www.france24.com/en/20091009-nasa-bombs-moon-find-water

Also this came up about a different thing https://taskandpurpose.com/history/air-force-moon-project-a119/
Apparently they drew up plans to nuke the moon for reasons
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>>530045262
ooh yeah that sounds familiar now they mention the LCROSS satellite. guess its a handy way to get a look at whats under the surface instead of doing a whole rover mission.
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>>530044796
radiation belts most likely, but could be anything else really. being told "no" is one of the more popular ideas
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>>530044654
>it's regulatory expansion
red tape you mean?
>>530044710
>and understand what the guy meant
yeah, he said
"...we used to, but we have destroyed that technology..."
you trying to pilpul this into something different is quite funny though, since your side accuses my side of being schizo
you can't even read or hear words without a filter program in the backround, reaching for alternative meaning in a very clear and easy to understand sentence
and please direct me to the place that gives me money to say this stuff, since you think i'm shilling (if you even know what that means)
>>530044766
we don't know
firstly the van allen belt travel has not been figured out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aISLUFprVAA), take note that this is today a problem, a problem the moon landing capsule has solved, but that tech we have lost apparently too
secondly it could be extremely hot on the surface, since the the moon is extremely bright and light loses energy in square
thirdly there is no evidence that humans have left the lower orbit (the data contradicting this claim is all "lost", therefore my point stands)
so can we land men on the moon? looks like the answer is no
but even then, not all possible scenarios happen
otherwise you would have kill yourself at the age of seven, cut your dick off, fucked your mom, killed your dad in his sleep, would shit yourself everyday in school and so on
your logic is shit oleg
>>530044710
>so what are you saying WAS destroyed?
according to NASA guy, they destroyed the tech neccessary to reach the moon. i can repeat that for you i you like, here we go, in pidgin for you
"NASA man say he broke da tech to do da moon ride"
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>>530045531
either willful moron, mentally ill or determined shill. no one else finds this kind of thing hard to understand, and no one else would go to such lengths in avoiding a discussion.
you're a massive faggot no matter what.
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>>530045531
>we don't know
we do know.
>firstly the van allen belt travel has not been figured out
we figured it out a long time ago.
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>>530037450

Don't question the faggotry of OP
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>>530045531
>moon could be extremely hot on the surface
which twitter screenshot or youtube clip told you that nonsense?
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>>530045531
>we used to, but we have destroyed that technology
Other guy is kind of retarded but what they actually meant was that the complex supply and manufacturing chains for producing moon capable rockets were no longer up and running.
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>>530045531
>take note that this is today a problem
and here's the other old youtube clip you faggots have stuck in your heads. you know that the guy wasn't talking about the VAB in relation to human radiation exposure, but you love to make out like he was. you know he was working on the navigation computer and was concerned about possible radiation effects on that.

you know all this, same as anyone else who watched the video, and yet you keep trying to lie about it all the time. why do you do that?
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Apparently a lot of the astronauts developed cataracts, at a much much higher rate than normal. So they didn't so much figure out the van allen belt, rather they said "fuck it" and blasted through the it as fast as possible, still getting dosed with radiation anyway. Remeber this is the days where they said smoking was good for you and barely started using seatblets in cars they didn't give a fuck about safety rules like we do now
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>>530037450
>don't question the authenticiy of this
"There was only ONE moon landing and it was Apollo 11" retard has entered the chat
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>>530046211
>So they didn't so much figure out the van allen belt
of course they did, who told you they didnt?
>eyesight gets fucked up
yeah thats from 0G, another evidence they were in space.
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>>530043825

Moon landing fake threads are some of the stupidest posts on this board.
They could only originate in Eglin.
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>>530039466
poland everybody
is it possible poles are retarded?
>YES
then they are
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>>530045208
my fav is the faster than light radio communication
gotta go fast when talking to the president
>>530045662
what discussion? i tell you your guy says A, and you yell at me that he actually meant B, for no given reason other than to protect the guy from his own words
that's how lies are crumbling. a straight story doesn't need interpretations docotoring, they don't need "oops, we lost all the evidence for my cool story" cases, they don't fear investigation and questioning
>>530045813
>we do know
how? all documentation is gone and everything else is "tv said so"
in that case we know that new york was attacked by aliens, several times in the last century
>we figured it out a long time ago.
that is news to NASA, see the vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aISLUFprVAA
or are you saying NASA is lying?
>>530045916
physics
if the moon is this bright at this distance, standing on the moon itself must be bright enough to burn most material in no time, epsecially since the heat radiation is massively more difficult in a almost vacuum
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>>530046487
Well what I mean is that was their solution to it, blast though the thinnest part at speed, minimizing exposure but not completely eliminating it. They report seeing flashes in their eyes. Maybe there's a better way now
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>>530037450
Poor nigger kid left on the moon to film the lunar lander taking off.
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>>530046097
>eight years old
that is way younger than the moon missions, so my point stands. you could try to adress those points i make, instead of insulting me without any basis
what if the radiation kills the men or jsut the ship? the moon missions have solved this problem anyway (flew 24 times throught he VAB), but now it's a problem again
strange
>>530046076
i doubt that. "we destroyed" is nothing you say if your version is true. it would be "we lost" or "we are not longer able to"
"destroyed" means an active meassure
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>>530037450
obligatory.
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>>530046670
what was destroyed the? not the space craft themselves, nor what was inside them, nor the rockets, spacesuits etc etc. so what was it? could it have been the supply chains and 100s of contractors dedicating their workforce and facilities to making stuff for Apollo?

yeah, it could be that simple.

>>530046740
it was made before they'd even flown Orion at all. and it was about the effects of radiation on the nav computer, which was very different to what was flown during apollo. there was never any concern about the effect on people mentioned in your little video clip.

they flew Orion all through the VAB for days on end during its first flight. they had loads of rad detectors in it. you know all this and will continue to double down on your retardation.
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>>530046670
>how?
its called science.
>all documentation is gone
no its not, whol told you that?
>the van meme belt
its been figured out decades ago.
>but my out of context 5 second youtube clip
got anything better?
>the moon is bright
and? so what?
>winter, snow everywhere
>go outside
>AAAHHHH OMG ITS SO BRIGHT IM MELTING ITS 90,000 DEGREES
are you retarded, son?
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>>530046740
>it would be "we lost" or "we are not longer able to"
It is worded weirdly but it's also weird to say that we destroyed technology when we didn't. Maybe why that other anon is asking for what specifically was destroyed. It's just one line from a sea of content, there's plenty of other people talking about the rocket supply chain but nothing else about tech being destroyed that I know of. I could of course be wrong.
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>>530039626
The south pole has the same circumference as your mom.
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>>530037450
w-who was filming?
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>>530047008
A brave volunteer stayed behind. You can see his skeleton with telescop if you know where to look
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>>530047008
It was motorized
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>>530047008
aliens.
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>>530046707

And still he waits...
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>>530046933
checked
okay, this is the best arguement that landers have
not bad
>>530046988
you seem to have a problem with "destroyed"
"To break apart the structure of,
render physically unusable,
or cause to cease to exist"
not very passive, so they ACTIVLEY fucked up their equipment
why would someone do this? maybe because there was nothing to destroy and claiming to have destroyed that stuff makes it harder to find evidence about your tall tale. he could have lied better, but why would they, if retards defend them even against their own words? immunised fools run cover for the lier. uselfull idiots i call them
tell me, how did all the probes go through the VAB with funtioning instruments then? asking since it is a problem for modern space craft (according to NASA)
>there was never any concern about the effect on people mentioned in your little video clip.
>in your little video clip
uff, female passive aggression, kek
"my little clip" (from NASA) was just one indicator that (according to NASA) the VAB is a massive problem for space travel, making the 24 voyages through the VAB suspicions
next the modern "instument problem" that was never a problem with probes and with the moon missions for decades
can't you see how many holes this story has? like every badly written fiction (a nice word for a liers story) the plottholes start mounting and frantic correctional lies must be issued
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>>530047874
why do low IQ retards think the van meme belt works like opening the Ark of the Covenant in Indiana Jones?
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>>530047874
>was just one indicator that (according to NASA) the VAB is a massive problem for space travel,
no, it wasn't. it was the guy building the navigation computer talking about making sure its rad shielding was done properly. just like that make sure rad protection is done properly on every satellite and probe every launched.

its not some kind of admission or any kind of little piece of evidence that you schizos can build up into your grand theory of how everything is fake and gay, no matter how much you like to think you're the One.
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>>530046990
>its called science
how very reddit of you to say
>no its not, whol told you that?
NASA uezs
>its been figured out decades ago.
not according to NASA
>got anything better?
NASAs words are not good enough for you to defend NASA with
>and? so what?
>winter, snow everywhere
>go outside
>AAAHHHH OMG ITS SO BRIGHT IM MELTING ITS 90,000 DEGREES
i see, you don't understand classical physics
>>530046997
>It is worded weirdly
yes, because he lied. lies tend to do that, coming off weirdly
another marker of lies is the post doctoring of what has been said
>>530047008
a nigger
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>>530047446

They tried it on 3 missions.
The first two times it failed, and the last time got it near perfect.
The camera was actually controlled from the earth, but the radio signals had to be staggered for the several seconds it took to reach from the Earth to the Moon.
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>>530037450
Why should I? I'm White and thus don't have to be jealous of the White Man's accomplishments.
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>>530048322
i don't know, why does NASA think of the belt as a problem now? they already have solved the problem and now they are afraid of it again? strange
>>530048347
>ignore what NASA says to protect what NASA says
i salute your soldering spirit
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>>530048830
you have to ignore what everyone says to keep your retarded line of bullshit flowing.
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>>530042820
They lost all the telemetry data, for one.
And you wohld have to ask the NASA rep what he meant by "lost the tech" this is an official NASA assertion
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>>530037605
It was a servo motor of a timed delayed RF signal. Its not fucking hard
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>>530048927
i highlight contradictions, you ignore them
>>530048966
checked
this is my favorite thing
they ignore everything NASA has said, because taking them serious means to somehow join massive contraditctions, brought to you by NASA
as i stated ITT, it's the pupil saying "i totally did my homework, but my dog destroyed it". but i guess if you are an important person in the TV, you can tell any bad lies, 80% of the populus will eat it up. the weaker and worse the lie, the better it seems
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>>530049262
you highlight nothing. you ignore everything. you love lies and deception.
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>>530040137
how is cananda so dumb? such consistently missing the point posts I thought at first it was a joke.

"flat earth" is used to discredit legitimate criticism. I thought that was so obvious as to not be effective and here he have a BRAIN DEAD MORON.
no wonder you're full of fucking indians.
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>>530039466
start with
is it possible
then
is it practical
is it reasonable
is it likely
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>>530049414
you don't even have arguements
i highlight NASA contradicting actions and tales
you try to neutralize them (very butthurt at that) by doing some interpretation session, analyzing words like "destroyed", like it's a multi faceted dimensional concept and other distraction tactics
then you belittle NASA sources i bring up, trying to defend NASA with this. i mean okay, NASA has no coordination and the don't know what they are talking about. why do you defend them then? seems to be a incompetent rabble, so why trust them?
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>>530049745
yes, and moonhoax is used the same way. its the exact same level of retardedness.

>>530049925
no, you just ignore what anyone says to you and carry on regardless, deliberately blind to anything you dont want to address.
thats all youve been doing the whole time, each and every time i bother to spend a few minutes explaining something to you.

fucking shill.
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>>530050240
nah, you just open up a discussion about "what could he mean by "we destroyed the tech"?"
then you deny what NASA said and call me a shill
so we have something in common
we don't trust NASA, but that doesn't hinder you to defend them
strange beavior but okay, you do you
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>>530050540
several anons have asked you the same questions about it but you ignored them all. you're pathetic. a weak know-nothing shill that dare not go off his programmed talking points and is only here to make sure they are posted all the time.
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>>530050673
you mean the polish guy with his top notch logic?
him i answered
all i got from you was "are you retarded?" and "nuh hu"
i answer at lenght and your only retort is "you ignore my point" without having made any (besides the "NASA has not said this", wich they did), belittling NASA sources without taking them serious (while defending NASA) and personal attacks
i guess i get why you are doing this. once an investment into a lie is too high, you better lie to yourself, or you could doubt your intelligence
according to your insults, you have a massive panic to be found stupid
cattle with an ego, the perfect slave
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>>530051222
you've done none of that and cant even remember who's been asking you, because all you do it ignore them.
you have not even ONCE tried to interact with anything anyone has said to you. you just keep on banging away with your same point over and over because you dont know enough to go outside of your single goal of repeating the same point over and over again.

you are a liar and a shill. they are not sending their best
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>>530043719
oh, this shit thread is still up, so surprising, who would have thought. Its gets posted here every single day and gets hundreds of replies each time, most of them bots spamming their flerf youtube links. Definetely mods are in on this psyop
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The Soviets managed to land proves on Venus, why wouldn't the Americans have managed to send a couple of dudes to the nearest neighbouring object?
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>>530037450
Why wouldn't that be real? Whats fake about it?
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>>530038989
Really stupid quote. The majority of what the government says is actually true. Even the most prolific liars tell more truth than lies.
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>>530051794
>Whats fake about it?
Good luck getting any of the moon landing deniers to actually answer that
I've tried before, asking them to state exactly what they have a problem with, and the best I've ever gotten has been "It looks fake"
And then when I ask again, they say "I already told you, not going to spoonfeed you, you're a shill, etc"
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>>530051742
>why is landing a disposable, unmanned probe different from transporting men to and from the moon?
Finnish intellectuals
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>>530051742
Skeptics cant ever answer why something is fake. They can come up with bizarre mystery stuff
>its a sound stage
>AI
>actors
>it was done under water
But they can never explain WHY scientifically that the initial thing would be fake. Its like false flag stuff, sure you can SAY something didnt happen and everybody involved is an actor but they can never explain WHY its an actor.
>this person is acting strange
>this person looks like another person
>this person had suspicious ties to actors (parents did commercials, comedy, are photographers, family member has notoriety for something)
But those are just speculative things the initial situation you cant really prove was fake.
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>>530051513
>gets asked to ask away
>only butthurt comes from you
i went through the thread, no question asked without an answer on my part. you just drone on about me ignoring stuff, that i have already have answered and you only asked about the interpretation stuff about "destroyed" over and over again (wich i answered the first time)
i hope you at least can grasp that i can't give lost info (otherwise it would not be lost), but my hope is waning
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>>530045208
Research show and science confirm, that there is no rain on the moon or in Hollywood basement studio . Experts say, it doesn't has to be water proved . You feed them porn and KFC... yes normies are that stupid.
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>>530052043
Exactly I've started just asking questions genuinely instead of calling them retards and you get either
10,000 youtube videos
Info graphics
Or fringe news articles
They never just explain it themselves. Which is a problem because even little kids dont need a 5 hour long YouTube video to explain why it did happen. Flat Earth is really interesting to me from a world building aspect. Im surprised some Jewish movie producer hasn't taken all this flat earth "science" and Lore and made a Netflix show about going to the ice wall yet
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>>530051961
nice, posted twice in the same thread. shills gotta shill

>>530052348
more lies. i've laid out the issue for you at least twice but you ignored it, and continue to do so. what a fucking nasty little retard shill you are.
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>>530052526
Idk man i think you might just be wrong. I get you're trolling or doing thought experiments but is it really worth arguing back and forth at 9am?
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>>530045256
Because the fine moon dust gets into everything. Last thing you want is for it to go in between decouplers or hinges.
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>>530052387
>I've started just asking questions genuinely
I have also found that tactic to be the best one as well.
The second part is that is that if they do try to answer, don't let them deflect or run - keep asking the question and pointing out the problem with their position

You're never going to convince them they are wrong because they are too deep in the rabbit hole for that
But what you can do is prevent others from falling into that rabbit hole by exposing the deception that their conspiracy claims rely on
When a normie sees them ignoring questions and deflecting, they are less likely to buy into the lie
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>>530052136
nice way to ignore the arguements
>bubbles in space
>faster than light communication
>van alle belt problematic-nonproblematic-problematic history
>light anomalies on the moon surface
>strange flairs above the helmets
and many more. we are on /team classic physics/ here, the only way to dislodge the kike msytics
>>530052526
>can't even asked the question
if it is about the "destroy" debate, i already answered you
do you see how you have repeated your insults over and over again? i bet you don't even know the question anymore
>what a fucking nasty little retard shill you are.
fuming, no wonder you can't think straight
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>>530039163
Based dinosaur denier
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>>530037450
but where are the stars? if i can see them from earth i should be able to see them from the moon.
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>>530052760
thanks for our concern anon, i appreciate it.
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>>530052859
>Because the fine moon dust gets into everything
And how would the moon dust get into that area?

Around the entry/exit points and inside sure, there's moon dust you have to worry about
But there's no moon dust blowing around in the wind
Any dust that was kicked up during the thrust of powered descent would not be a factor because the dust blows outward form the exhaust and moves parabolically
There is no dust cloud to worry about.
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>>530052977
>if it is about the "destroy" debate, i already answered you
read these again you lying faggot. you can then ignore them again like last time

>>530042172
>>530042274
>>530042948
>>530043087
>>530043413
>>530043487
>>530043815

there are a bunch more for you to ignore too.
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third times the charm for the youtube spamming shill bot
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>>530052977
>bubbles in space
Don't exist and you can't provide an example of it
>faster than light communication
Doesn't exist and you can't provide an example of it
>van alle belt problematic-nonproblematic-problematic history
Not a problem at all and has been explained to you a dozen times already
>light anomalies on the moon surface
Do not exist and is just you not understanding how cameras work
>strange flairs above the helmets
Easily explained by the backpack antenna reflecting sunlight

I welcome you to defend any of your claims with specific evidence.
But we both know you will not.
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>>530037450
OK.
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>>530046933
fpbp
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>>530053351
It is over, flat earthers have brain washed all worlds leaders in to believe that earth is flat

https://youtu.be/0FLJVJk8KPc
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>>530053002
Dinosaurs are real ...

kek
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>>530052923
>>530052387
the problem you have is, you have to bring the evidence
when a dozen foto pros tell me that this light is made by a flood light, then i will believe them
you can see it, get the logic behind the "light drop" and wonder how they got it to work on the light side on the moon (hasselbatt has not made a special camera nor film, they just incasted it), being flooded with radiation (a known problem in fotography)
one detail is wrong, the whole story is wrong (why lie?)
>>530053233
okay, you seem to be a real retard
i can't tell you specific what tech, but, and that's important, NASA told me they destroyed the tech needed to fly up there. is it important that i can name the specific project of importance? why should it be? according to NASA they destroyed the tech that is needed to go up there, again. NASA told me that. what do you want me to do? dismantle NASAs lies so you can be correct about NASA being correct? what in the actual fuck is your brain on?
>>530053351
>just deny, lol
>just deny, lol
>just deny, lol
>just deny, lol
>one possible explanation
bravo, one. impressive. too bad that the antennas are too smal for that flair
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>>530053151

No one can see your post anon it is invisible for public
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>>530053950
I notice that you did exactly what I said - deflect and refuse to provide specifics.

>when a dozen foto pros tell me that this light is made by a flood light, then i will believe them
Who? Show me these "dozen foto pros" and show me the analysis they did
>too bad that the antennas are too smal for that flair
What background do you have in film that would allow you to conclude that?
Have you tried to recreate it?
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>>530053950
>according to NASA they destroyed the tech that is needed to go up there, again
they stopped paying all the companies huge amounts of money, so those companies shut down their apollo sections and everyone went on to other things.

what are you not understanding about this? i can answer that for you actually - you're not understand how it works because you know zero about how Apollo was designed, built, tested, transported to the cape, tested again and then launched. thats why you are stuck on such a simple point.

either that or its just your shill point for today and you cant go off script. next time it'll be another thing you repeat over and over again for the entire thread.
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>>530054187
>Show me these "dozen foto pros" and show me the analysis they did
he's on about a bit in the AMerican Moon movie where the maker surprises some photographers with print outs of apollo photos and has them look at them.

what he doesn't tell them, or the audience, is that he was showing photos that had their exposures changed for publication and also one that wasnt actually a photo at all, but a collage made years after.

in other words, like all moonhoax believers, the maker of the move lied.
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>>530040435
What else could it be?
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>>530043825
>the NASA guy makes it very clear, that "we" are not currently able to do what was "possible" (i doubt that) fifty years ago
He never says that. Are you mentally handicapped or lying?
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>>530046670
>physics
May we see it? Can you show us your data and calculations?
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>>530037450
ok
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Don't you know everytime you say you don't believe in the moon landings, an astronaut somewhere DROPS DEAD.
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>>530054187
you just deny stuff
why would i go deeper, since you dismiss anyway?
it's not a discussion stating "doesn't exist"
so yeah, stay ignorant
>>530054275
>they stopped paying all the companies huge amounts of money
now you have to make the story for them, just like in bad screenplays, were the fans have to doctor stuff together to defend the pathetic writer
he said "destroyed" and didn't correct himself after, end of story
you defend a position you simultiansly attack nonstop
i call NASA liers, you call NASA liers (to dfend them from me saying they are liers)
>>530054652
it's called classical physics, the ones that can replicated in tests
>>530054484
>"i would go in an instant, but we destroyed the tech to do that"
there are implications in this, but i won't hope for a jeet to understand implications
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>>530044882
Shit smashes into the room regularly. I love this shit. Anyways on the moon when you have an impact it's not just a crater. There's no atmosphere to slow down particles in motion so that razor dust will fly straight enough without slowing down. The gear that was left on the moon is beat the fuck up if not totally shredded by that whipping razor dust.
If any humans ever lived on the moon, they would have to be underground if any realistic space travel would happen simultaneously to or from the moon, especially with a giant craft trying to get a whole house up there. See this? Would have fucking wreck any astronaut nearby.
The thing about moon dust and lightning storms is that all the iron razor particles are electrically charged. They'll stick to the suits and just absolutely devour the fibers. The big boys in NASA have a scheme to power a suit electronically to get a magnetic shield over it. If any of you bitch about this then you never ever deserve a hardshield. I can think of other applications for an electrically charged suit, like sending Google's server farm to sleep forever.
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>>530054881
>you just deny stuff
You're the one making the claims of "bubbles in space" and "light anomalies"
It's on you to provide evidence of those things
Until you do so (which we both know you won't) then I will not believe anything you say

Again, for all the lurkers - see how they do not provide evidence or support their claims?
How they just use innuendo and suspicion instead of defending their positions?
It's because they know their position does not hold up to scrutiny
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>>530043487
>To make a total guess at this "destroyed tech", every part would be specially made with various machines and tooling and moulds and shit
I wouldnt have believed anyone would think to do this until I read about the development of the SR71 Blackbird where they did just that- the government ordered Lockheed to destroy equipment that was used to make specific parts for the plane.
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>>530053618
fuck off newfag
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>>530054881
>it's called classical physics, the ones that can replicated in tests
So, can you post those physics here? Some of us do have physics knowledge after all. We would be interested in seeing your calculations and data. What have you discovered that none of the millions of physicists around the world have?
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I think some of the moon landing conspiracies might have merit to them. The only people fit to investigate these really are government agencies. If there's one thing all governments can agree on worldwide that it's not to provide reasonable doubt to any conspiracy theorists. To undermine one world leader's authority is tantamount to undermining all of them. Under mine all right.
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>>530054092
that map still represents earth as a globe retard, just with the usa as the most prominent country.
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>>530037488
Ironically, you're the one turning this into a flerf thread by even mentioning this. Only schizos & glowies make moon landing fakery about flerf. Flatfaggery was always a glowop troll.
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>>530054881
>now you have to make the story for them
lol. you're trying too hard shill anon.
all of this based on a single phrase by a single guy in a video years ago. what kind of insanity is it to load so much meaning on an off the cuff remark made during one interview? it was jstu a very concise way of describing both what happened and how he felt about the way in which the Apollo program was ended, which was pretty disgraceful.

>it's called classical physics, the ones that can replicated in tests
bullshit. its you repeating another stupid flat earther argument that hopes people won't notice that you're taking the brightness of the entire lunar surface and applying it to someone stood on the fucking surface, as if somehow all the reflected light would be concentrated on that one spot.

more utter flat earth bullshit.
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>>530040435
Are you suggesting a woman could have operated the camera? Puhlease
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>>530055042
you have to support your claim (we landed on the moon), not the other way around
since the data is lost and moon stones turned out to be petrified wood, i would say i have enough to call it a lie
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32581790
you on the other hand have nothing outside of NASA telling us so
but you will call it fake or deflect any other way and do what you accuse me of, not giving sources (because you can't)
>>530055381
look up the "reciprocal square law", apply that to the light radiating from the moon and e voila, it is way more bright on the moon surface than we can see down here, making it very difficult (or impossible) to walk on the light side of the moon
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>>530053351
>>faster than light communication
>Doesn't exist and you can't provide an example of it

It happened multiple times, check the official DVDs of Apollo 15 for example.

>>light anomalies on the moon surface
>Do not exist and is just you not understanding how cameras work

Which is why multiple world-famous professional photographers like Peter Lindbergh were shown the photos and not a single one could explain these anomalies and they all believed the photos to be fakes instead.

>>strange flairs above the helmets
>Easily explained by the backpack antenna reflecting sunlight

Because everyone knows these backpack antennas are multiple meters long.
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>>530055806
would explain why it failed the first two times
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>>530055613
That looks like the old UN map of the world where the USA was front and center because of reasons. They changed it slightly more recently so the USA isn't at the exact center of the world. North-pole-centered maps were very fashionable for the cold war since that actually let you see how far away Russia really was.
China actually banned maps of China outright, or at least mandated that all maps be altered greatly in order that a true and accurate map of China never reach the foreigners. I think they concept of "global positioning system" hasn't quite caught up to the Dear Leader.
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>you have to support your claim (we landed on the moon), not the other way around
I thought you'd never ask

>Almost 16,000 images scanned at 1800 DPI
https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums/
>Dozens of hours of video
https://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a11/video11.html
https://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a12/video12.html
https://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a14/video14.html
https://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a15/video15.html
https://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a16/video16.html
https://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a17/video17.html
>Hundreds of pounds of moon rocks
https://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/samples/

Three countries independently verified the Apollo missions with their own measurements
>India's Chandrayaan2 Orbiter (pic related)
https://www.backyardastronomyguy.com/apollo-isro
>Japanese SELENE orbiter scans the surface for 3D topograpy, and the results match Apollo 15 photos
https://global.jaxa.jp/press/2008/05/20080520_kaguya_e.html
>The scientists also spotted traces of the previous Apollo mission in the images, said Yan Jun, chief application scientist for China's lunar exploration project.
https://english.cas.cn/newsroom/archive/china_archive/cn2012/201202/t20120207_81106.shtml
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>>530052068
I know it's different and has it's own challenges, but if the Soviets managed the Venera landings then surely the Americans landing on the moon isn't impossible or too far fetched.
My point being the Soviets achieved the Venera missions with less, they didn't have the fancy engineering or tech the yanks had, they just kinda winged it.
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>>530055842
he showed them altered photos, which is why they thought there wre extra light sources etc. like you, he just lied.
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>>530055842
>Still no actual evidence of your claims
I'm bored
You're boring me
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Who will be the first man to shit on the moon?
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>>530055950
the continued Apollo program had a manned venus flyby planned.
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>>530055809
I asked you to post physics, not mentally retarded schizobabble that makes zero sense. Physics requires math. Data. Models. Calculations. So, can you post your physics? We want to see actual data, numbers, calculations, conclusions. What you wrote is not physics.
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>>530053166
I guess during landing, since the dust will fly up and then slowly come down all over the craft.
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>>530055777
but you are filling the plotholes for them
>they say "destroyed"
>you produce a script were this is explained away to safe face
sorry for you, but you are doing PR work for NASA
>classical physics are flat earth now
okidoki
>>530055842
and if you give them sources, they call them schizo or fake. they want evidence, you give it to them, they call it fake (ironically without evidence)
happened ITT
i do it for the lurkers, since i know those NPCs are not persuaded
>>530056116
>he can't look up formulas, lumen of the moon and the distance of the moon from earth even after getting the needed info
saars/10
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>>530056182
>the dust will fly up and then slowly come down all over the craft.
That's not how vacuum physics works
There is no "slowly", it follows a perfect parabola
And the dust goes outward from the thruster exhaust, not up

Your intuition about what it would be like is based on your experience on Earth in an Atmosphere
That is not how it works on the Moon
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>>530056294
>sorry for you, but you are doing PR work for NASA
i already asked you what exactly was destroyed, and mentioned all the production spacecraft that still exist etc etc. you ignored all that in favor of......nothing. you've nothing to say. you just dont know, and you dont want to know.
>okodoki
so post it then. i know exactly what youii're talking about because flat earthers have been spouting the garbage for years. you're a flat earth shill too.
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>>530055953
No. He provided the IDs of all photos for reference. I checked quite a few - some were cropped in order to better show the problematic details one should look at, but every single one I checked was valid.
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>>530037450
It's so beautiful.
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>>530056120
>several of them say "ew!" when you walk in
That's a Stasi demoralization tactic. Women are all in on the fucking commie spying bullshit /pol/ never talks about
>this thread has been pruned or deleted
>your IP has been temporarily blocked to abuse
>specified thread does not exist
Guess that's why.
Reading my fucking posts before I even post them
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>>530056182
Actually no. The dust will anywhere but the craft. You see there's no atmosphere on the moon. Once a particle of moon dust has momentum imparted into it, it will not slow down until gravity pulls it down into collide with the moon surface again, when it will scatter. Dust scatters so very slowly on the moon you can tell how the older craters are always darker.
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>>530055971
Then open your eyes you fucking retard. A flashing light 2 meters above the astronauts backpack is obviously not from the antenna that is just about one feet long.
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NASA is panicking
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https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/530052971#top
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>>530039466
Hey do you think it's possible for you to die?
Then you are already dead.
That's your logic. Moron
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>>530056599
doesn't matter if they had an ID on them, because several collections feature images changed for publication. unless he was using the unaltered raw scans, which he wasnt, they were not looking at the originals.
like this one he showed them. the contrast is more extreme in it because the exposure was pushed to bring out more details in the dark areas, along with some other adjustments to make it look its best. check out the raw scan and you'll see
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>>530056772
>A flashing light 2 meters above the astronauts backpack
And you have evidence of this happening?
2 meters above?

May I see it?
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>>530037450
Hands down the worst Thunderbirds episode. 0/10 wouldn't recommend
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>>530056671
Ironically this would be a hazard for any supermassive craft! Say if we landed something tall on the moon, the best idea would be to do it deep inside a pre-existing crater on a flat spot. If you parked your tall rocket on a hill upright (a little difficult) there's a chance dust might blast around the entire moon and hit your craft. The chance of damage is non-zero.
People are like "oh Apollo-style landing is more efficient" but they've never experienced the thrill of parking a 3-stage 1-man on the moon.
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>>530056599
and look at this one. its not even a real apollo photo. its a collage made by some fan. the lying American Moon fag didn't tell them that, then acted amazed when they thought it looked funny.

this is the general standard of moonhoax schizos and their nooooticing.
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Something control our perceptions, edits our thoughts(makes certain thoughts slip away), and probably pits each other against each other out of cruelty

Me telling you all this won't do a thing to stop it
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>>530056565
>i already asked you what exactly was destroyed
and i already told you that me knowing/not knwowing what has been destroyed doesn't matter
i was told by NASA that they can't go to the moon anymore, because, according to them, THEY DESTROYED THE TECH
sorry that NASA guy was not delievering a specific list of what THEY HAVE DESTROYED for me
your minute "but what has been destroyed exactly" provides nothing and you should ask that NASA
>the reciprocal square law is flat earth now
rain falling down is flat earth as well, right?
>>530057062
you would deny the evidence
but for your info, the vid showing what the other germanon means is ITT
not that you would watch is though
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>>530057062
>May I see it?

You may. You just need to look at picrel in my first post that you replied to.
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>>530037488
>flerf thread, sage and ghost.
But what if the Earth actually is flat and we just haven't collected enough information yet?
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>>530057018
>the contrast is more extreme in it because the exposure was pushed to bring out more details in the dark areas
Yup
Here is the original scan and you can tell it has clearly been adjusted in the one shown to the "photo expert"
https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/22078734751/in/album-72157657350941603
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>>530057414
>You just need to look at picrel in my first post that you replied to.
And what is the source of that image so that I can find it myself, to verify that it was not modified in any way?
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>>530055511
It's the light reflecting off the body of the rover. It's all well and good questioning what space agencies say, but don't forget to question your own hypotheses as well.
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>>530057018
So where do I find these mystical "unaltered raw scans"?
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>>530057819
>So where do I find these mystical "unaltered raw scans"?
https://data.lroc.im-ldi.com/apollo/browse
Information on their scan process here
https://apollo.im-ldi.com/ABOUT_SCANS/index.html
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>>530057325
>i was told by NASA that they can't go to the moon anymore, because, according to them, THEY DESTROYED THE TECH
one guy described it that way, using emotive language, and you're deliberately refusing to understand or talk about what he was referring to. i dont know why.

>rain falling down is flat earth as well, right?
no, but you're misrepresenting it. and also not posting anything to show what you mean. scared to have your lying memes looked at?

>>530057531
exactly. then they point to the 'hot spot' in the altered version and think they've discovered fakery. they are jokers.

>>530057819
by doing a moments looking for them
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>>530056294
>he can't look up formulas, lumen of the moon and the distance of the moon from earth even after getting the needed info
This translates to "I am a mentally handicapped schizo who has zero understanding of high school level physics and math". You are literally unable to write down a simple fact. All you have is your nonsensical schizo word salad.
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>>530057325
>no I won't show evidence you look it up
>I already showed you the evidence I won't post it again
This is how angry virgin low IQ schizos lie.
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>>530037450
Give me two insiders on NASA staff and I could fake it.
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>>530058664
>no, but you're misrepresenting it
yeah sure
>and also not posting anything to show what you mean
is "reciprocal square law" so hard to search up? how i misrepresnted that, i don't know
>>530058808
>>530059096
^^^^^^^i talked about a principle, like rain falling down
i wonder why you stopped asking about the serial number of a screw that was part of a space ship to muddy the discussion water
but talking about principles to brown ears yields nothing but shit
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Might well be possible, too, that electricity in general produces carbon, and some entity has been cleaning that carbon up. Yeah, I know, shit sucks - might well be the case that you learned a bunch of shit that seemed right but was actually wrong, or partly obfuscated
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>>530059360
>yeah sure
yeah, for sure you are, in the way i described above. this is why you're not posting anything.
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>>530059360
You were not talking about a principle, nor physics or math. You were literally spouting timecube guy nonsense.
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>>530059360
That sure is a lot of words you typed without providing any evidence for your claims
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>>530043836
This
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>>530058050
I just checked the flickr photo you claimed was an "original scan". The problems pointed out in that photo (like Buzz Aldrin apparently standing in a spotlight) are just as present there, they are just less less easy to see when the contrast is reduced to minimum.
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>>530037450
A competently implemented zoom-out and pan-up done remotely, or properly synchronized with a clock? Just tell us you're bad at math
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>>530059804
>Buzz Aldrin apparently standing in a spotlight
The "spotlight" effect is from sunlight reflecting off of the Lunar Lander that is just to the right off-image
You can even see the leg right in front of him in the photo

You have been told this over and over, and yet you repeat your lies
Are you a shill or a troll?
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>>530059543
so the moon is exactly as bright up there as we can see it down here then? if you don't find this relevant, why discussing?
>>530059804
if the sun is blasting the moon, why is there a light shift outside the centre?
par excellence spot light right there
>>530059518
i was, the priciple of photons spread out the farer they travel, making the brightness dimmer in the distance
too hard to understand for you apperantly
>>530059477
well, dismissal goes both ways leaf
>>530059932
and there goes the fanfiction to pluck the plotholes again
as if the lander has anything against the sun
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>so the moon is exactly as bright up there as we can see it down here then?
Ok I'm done with your intellectually disingenuous retardation
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>>530060258
i was asking a question
i think the moon really is brighter up there instead of down here
but people here seem to have a problem with that
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>>530058664
>by doing a moments looking for them

So you can claim the "unaltered raw scans" I will find by looking for them are not the REAL "unaltered raw scans" you were talking about? No thanks.
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>>530059932
>>530059932
>The "spotlight" effect is from sunlight reflecting off of the Lunar Lander that is just to the right off-image

Utter bullshit as one can easily see in the reflection on the astronauts helmet.
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>>530060907
always goes that way
>they have nothing
>*give them something*
>that is a lie
everytime
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>>530060153
>well, dismissal goes both ways leaf
its your point. you brought it up. so why not make your case properly? when you dont then you can easily be dismissed.

>>530060907
what?
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>>530061808
>its your point. you brought it up
i know, but how does a random "you misrepresented stuff" while i was merely referencing a physical principle regrading the moon
nobody could tell me what i misrepresent, so i dismiss this blabber as rethoric trick to not go into the meat and potatoes
oh well, it was predictable. one only flees to rethoric when no point would stand on its own
this is what you guys are doing the whole time, rethorcal maneuvers
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>>530062190
i said that because ive seen your retarded argument made for years by flat earthers and was wondering if you could even make your case properly. you've refused, so i guess you cant.
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>>530061349
Are you mentally retarded
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>>530063221
why should the light of the moon work in other ways than evey other light emiter/reflector works in all of the known (provable) science?
honest question but my guess is you are opposed to those questions out of spite
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Beyond the point of moonlanding being fake or not you all have to admit that moonlanding apologists have some of the dumbest arguments.
>it would be easier to go to the moon than fake it
How? Creating a realistic film is much more likely than doing something that has never been acomplished before.
2001 Space Odyssey is a precedent for the film hypothesis.What was the precedent of a man manned mission crossing the Van Allen belft, landing safely and coming back to earth safely as well?
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>>530063665
honest question - why cant you just make your case? is it because you dont know what you're talking about? did they only give you the one lying meme to work from? post it, let me see.
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>>530064094
my case is that the moon is brutally bright when you walk on it, considering how bright a clear full moon night is on earth
hence my mention of the the reciprocal square law
but you won't understand out of opposition (or intellect)
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>>530052977
>>bubbles in space
>>faster than light communication
>>van alle belt problematic-nonproblematic-problematic history
>>light anomalies on the moon surface
>>strange flairs above the helmets
Yeah but WHY are those things weird? What makes them anomolies?
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>>530064354
-gas does not form bubbles in space, it evaporates immeadietly in all directions OR is blewn away by the sun (in the other direction)
-radiowaves can't go over the speed of light
-VAB has been measured as highly radioactive
-light should not behave like this anywhere
-flaires should have curved forms, wich they didn't form when recorded
there you go
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>>530064354
None of those things he said are actually real
It's just flat earther talking points
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>>530037450
What looks wrong about it?
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>>530064634
>gas does not form bubbles in space, it evaporates immeadietly in all directions OR is blewn away by the sun (in the other direction)
Why
>-radiowaves can't go over the speed of light
Why not, who told you that?
>-VAB has been measured as highly radioactive
Who told you that?
>-light should not behave like this anywhere
Why?
>-flaires should have curved forms, wich they didn't form when recorded
Things act differently sometimes i dont really see what you're saying
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>>530064884
I don't know, I never went to the moon to check if it looks like a 70s sitcom prop.
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>>530049097
It actually wasn't. It was controlled by a guy back on earth, who knew the commands he sent had a time delay, and didn't want to mess it up.
https://www.universetoday.com/articles/how-nasa-filmed-humans-last-leaving-the-moon-42-years-ago
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>>530064342
Still waiting for your math. How bright is the moon exactly? Give an estimate number and show us how you calculated it.
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>>530064342
>my case is that the moon is brutally bright when you walk on it, considering how bright a clear full moon night is on earth
yeah, and you're wrong because a basic misunderstanding of how the law you keep mentioning applies in thise case. i talked about this the first time you brought it up. and as usual you ignored that.
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>>530037450
NUKES
ARENT
REAL
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Denying that Aryans can go to the moon is incredibly brown coded
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>>530064634
>gas bubbles
1.Gas pressure is the same as the weight of all the gas on top of it
2. Gas pressure is proportional to density
3. Gas pressure on the surface of the earth is 1 atm
You can take these three math equations and solve for how gas is distributed as you ascend. You can check this distribution by checking air pressure on top of a mountain.
According to this gas distribution, air slowly thins into the higher you go, until it very gradually becomes basically 0

You can't refute this
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>>530065320
>Snow isn't bright
You're a dumb faggot, why do you think the visors were so heavily tinted you stupid bitch
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>>530065571
Hubris
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>>530064950
>camera from the 70s produces the same quality footage on the Moon as camera from the 70s produces on Earth
No shit, Sherlock.
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>>530064893
>Why
because gas wants to disperse into an euquilibrium and in a quasi vacuum, this goes very quick
you know how a fart works? it disperses after some time, making the stench go away
same goes for gas in space, only much quicker
>who told you that
a hundred years of practical usage and it's clear documented limitations
>who told you that number 2
mr. van allen and his instrumented rockets, finding high radiation
>Things act differently sometimes
they do, when the circumstances are different
lens flairs act as seen in the moon footage when they are induced by cables
>>530065216
well, fluid dynamics are not real, unless you can provide me with the exact data
sounds very clever, doesn't it?
besides, you just called the usage of the law "flat earth", as if this is an arguement
how does the law not apply to moon light?
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>>530065320
>besides, you just called the usage of the law "flat earth", as if this is an arguement
>how does the law not apply to moon light?
was for >>530065320
sorry
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>>530065713
>I believe this sfx bullshit
Well I guess that ends all need for proof
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>>530037450
get some new material kike spammer and fuck all of you brown retards for replying to it
fuck kikes, fuck browns, fuck trannies and fuck jannies
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>>530065627
thats not what the other guy is saying. the visors were mostly to protect from direct sun exposure too. reflectance from the surface is about like what you get looking at old asphalt.

>>530065804
i wonder why you aren't posting the flat earth memes that at least pretend to sound like they know anything about the subject. come on flerf shill, wheres your stuff about lumens and stuff?
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>>530066126
>can't answer why physical law should not apply on the moon
>deflects again with off topic accusations
isn't lumen a meassurement of light levels?
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>>530066313
ive had enough of your gay little run around routine. you keep bringing stuff up and then do your best to never say anything about it when asked. a more obvious troll or shill is hard to imagine.
post the meme i know you have or you might as well switch to your next talking point.
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>>530049745
Youre a retarded Skitzo, go take your meds fatty. The reason you cant go back is dumb fucks like you are to retarded to do anything in life except shitpost all day
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>>530066459
why switch the topic, since you haven't cleared up why we should ignore well documented science
classical physics always makes them flee
name calling is all you have left
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>>530037450
From the guys that brought you 9/11 and covid-19, folks. Don't question it, the science has settled even though they keep all the details from you.
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>well documented science
>has provided no documentation
It's all so tiresome
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>>530066625
Reading this thread you are retarded as fuck your entire premise for the moon landing being fake is a 15 second clip of a nasa employee who was like in his 20s at best during the landings saying we destroyed the technology?? No wonder the Germans are so easy to fool
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>>530066625
show some documentation then.
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>>530037450
>It just looks fake!
>How is the flag waving in space??
>If we went to the moon, why didn't we go back???
Can someone actually give any evidence that they're faking, I mean if it all was just a farce, the soviets would've been the first to blow the whistle
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>>530067062
The soviets did call bullshit.
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>>530067113
the soviets also said collective farms were a really great idea.
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>>530067062
They have zero evidence
They think making claims is the same as evidence
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Compromise: the earth is flat, but it's on all 6 sides.
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>>530067384
Pic related
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>>530056853

The theory of gaseous attraction makes sense when you consider that all of the meteorites that the earth attracts daily when they could literally go any other direction in space
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>>530067384
Cat Earth is the real Truth.
Here is a photograph
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>>530067057
another one that just says "you are dumb"
i talk about the topic
>>530067058
>give evidence for something not existing
not how it works
you must show the evidence for something happened
so i ask again
why should light work any different on the moon? why should classical physics not work there?
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>>530067113
Source?
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>>530067561
You've just been educated stupid by big brother singularly. No cat is born without a belly button. Earth is a cube! Time is cube! Timecube!
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>>530067568
you've become a very boring troll. i think you're routine demands that these threads and early or you become too obviously stuck in a loop. a one trick pony.
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>>530067883
well, you accused me of changing the topic and now you are bored by not asnwering a simple question
what is it?
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>>530067843
t. evil Dog Earth shill

you'll never keep the Feliocentric truth from coming out.
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>>530068034
yah yah ok. see you next time. i wonder if you'll switch to the 'jews lied for money' talking point and do the same looping routine again.
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>>530068298
yeah, see yee leaf
may classical observation of nature be the guidance of your worldview
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>>530068542
you should post something observed about the light reflecting from the moon. like you've been asked to do a dozen times.
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>>530065571
You're a fucking goyim
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>>530068698
i merely take into account what classical physics told me about the world
and those, i take seriously
me giving you data is not important, since you would dismiss it anway
i can show you the water, the drinking is up to you
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>>530068896
>you should believe what i say without evidence
i know this is how it works in the flat earth community but there are different standards outside of the cult.



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