Smokers and drinkers shouldn't receive healthcare. If the cause of your illness is addiction, you should be moved to the back of the line and forced to fork out an exorbitant sum.
Money.
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>>530047598I agree. I don't want to pay taxes to care for self destructive habits and other NEETs
>>530047598What if your ailment is unrelated to your addiction?
>>530047598smoking in moderation is healthy tho
>>530047598both systems benefit the same people, dumb cunt
>>530047598Ok, but no excise then.A €4 pack of cigarettes has €3 of excise tax that was mostly used to fund healthcare. But if no healthcare then no tax. And why would i even pay social tax to fund the healthcare system anymore after that?
>>530048113closer to $14 with $13 in taxes here.
>>530047598Externality taxes are fine. Calculate how much smoking costs society, and tax it per unit.
>>530048249Cigarettes are 6-7€ here. They were like 1€ before we adopted the euro currency
>>530047598Joke's on you, I quit smoking because the fucking taxes made it unaffordable. Now they get less revenue to fund their bullshit.
>>530047598Kinda defeats the purpose of public healthcare if you refuse to treat the people with health problems, doesn’t it?
>>530047598In that case, then alcohol should be made illegal as well as anything else that affect your life because most addiction start when you’re a child and you’re not able to create good judgment
>>530047598From duty alone, UK gov gets £20.7bn per year.Add to that the VAT which is about another £10bn.So call it £30Bn in taxes from drunkards and smokers.
>>530047598Meat eaters too, actually everyone who doesn't follow the state approved diet and habits list™
>>530047598then the same should go for anorexics, fat people, depressed people, people who are loners etc.because those are all lifestyle "choices" with heavy adverse health outcomes. if you can think, you can see how your logic just ends up being psychopathic when you think it through
>>530047598Their healthcare payments are higher here. Are they not like that in Europe?
>>530047598based
>>530047997Sorry but no amount is smoking is ever healthy
>>530048426addictions start because people need a cope to deal with emotional pain.from coffee, to alcohol, cigarettes, food, pornography etc etc.the root cause is living in a fucked up system where most people abuse each other from an early age and pass on their emotional pathologies to their children, because the intended use of a human being is to make number go up, instead of learning who they are
>>530047598I smoke because i wanna die slow so cool beans bro
>>530047598Gay men, like OP, should pay quadruple+ for (((health insurance)))
>>530047598Digital id will handle this, no way out of it. Your alcohol purchases will be on record, as well as tobacco. The doctor and insurance will know this before you go in for a checkup or for treatment. They will bill you in a relative way to others that dont drink or smoke and bombard you with "help" to stop doing those things. Drinking a 30 year old scotch and smoking a fine cigar is only for the elites.
>>530047598What if someone you knew and loved was affected by it and their lives could be saved by the healthcare? You'd change your tune then
>>530047598Smoking is getting rarer and rarer here with only 10% smoking now. Vaping is likely to eclipse ivy with few costs to the NHS but also less tax revenue.
>>530047598Well in the US that doesn't make sense since the government isn't paying for my health care. There's also the part where if you disqualify everyone that has a lifestyle that isn't conducive to good health, you'd be left with less than 10% or the general population. I don't know a ton of non smokers and non drinkers that also aren't fat and meet the weekly recommended physical activity threshold.
>>530048423Why should normal people be forced to subsidize your PrEP?
>>530048875Why would I get a digital ID?I won't even get a regular ID.
>>530047598I didn't know russians could be such bootlickers. What did they do to you to make you gay like that? That's really sad.
>>530047598wait wut
>>530049012Normal people? You're from burgermuttistan. You've never seen a normal person in your life. Also what do you know about healthcare lmao. You live in a third world country
>>530049102They will make it so you cannot interact with the world if you do not have one. It will be hard with the relative money being handed out, the technology explosion, etc.. but can be done for a little while but you will capitulate eventually and join.
>>530047598You shouldn't receive life but here we are, reading your fucking gay post.
>>530047598Nothing ruins health and kills people more than "healthcare". It's a medical monopoly of Rockefeller's Allopathic Medicine (drugs, surgery, vaccines, symptom management, no cures).https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=id4XFlG97mA
>>530047805the same people who admonish NEETs themselves will not provide a duty statement along with the contact information for a hiring supervisor, so out of spite I support NEETmaxxing just to spite hypocrites.
>>530048423the purpose of "public healthcare" is to make you into an enormously fat wheezing greasy fagtard so you can make jews rich and decrease the surplus population
>>530050227this is correct
>>530047598I went to the "universal health care", half of the people there were church pedo gang stalkers, I think they got one 4channer there laughing at me or to pretend to be, other half were a mixture of comedians, homosexuals and people trying to re-direct esteem towards the majority that is pampered as a way to legitimize my suffering...I spent almost 2 hours because the (((tele communcations))) believe they can influence my thoughts while the same time purposely trying to kill me...a semitic poop colored woman called garbage a poor white family.the doctors on the other room made sex noises.anyways...masons, church and their pedo rings... they laughed at me, the doctor could not even accept another doctors request and they un-ironically wanted to plug me to a 90s abs muscle stimulator to pretend to give "health care" ignoring all the previous health problems. you have a whole country, even many nations parasiting out of your shit post and they judge if you passed 6 hours jerking off to candy.ai chat bots, as if their salary depending on you wasn't enough, they need to make every little thing shitty as so you never succeed, infinity cash, no social value, such is life, I spent 5 years sober, I stopped smoking 11 years and 2 months and 6 days ago. A brown semite on mansory, never work, receives 20k, fuck kids, jerk off to pedo and is unbothered...people dislike when you don't have some criminal activity, they start pushing you to kill someone so they can rob your home...
>>530047598they should be executed and not given healthcare. only exception is weed because its good for you
>>530047598Ok, and caffeine users and masturbaters and people who stay up all night and people who don't drink enough water and people who eat goyslop too.
Tobacco is already disproportionally taxed, so we already pay more for the healthcare system even when we do not need it.
>>530048767I agree Anon
What about people eating slop? That also ruins your health.
>>530047598most health problems today are because people eat too much
>>530047598Their healthcare should be funded by Jews.My plan is better.
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I don't know what all of this supposed medicaid fraud you people keep talking about.What is the point of the program if you don't want to people use it?The only time the government should get involved is if someone is knowingly abusing the system to get free narcotics like Xanax and Percocet.Someone going to the emergency room for a cream for the rash on their ballsack shouldn't have Republicans demanding that person to be whipped and crucified.
>>530050617>weed
>>530048767I (used to) smoke weed because I enjoy being high. Nothing to do with "emotional pain."
>>530047598True
>>530047598You're not from a Western country, so your opinion is automatically wrong and requires no counter-proof.
>>530047598What if a smoker breaks his leg?
>>530047598being alive is more dangerous than drinking or smoking just fyi
>>530047598Neither should anti-vaxxers.Smokers and alcoholics die sooner and thus cost less than people who hang around past their usefulness.
