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ITALIAN COURT PROSECUTES Australian Family
Family in the Woods, Court Order: "Mother and Children Will Be Separated"

Family in the Woods, Court Order: "Mother and Children Will Be Separated"
Catherine, the parents' lawyer says, will be removed from the Vasto facility. And the three children will be relocated. The defense psychologist: "This is enormous and absurd news." The children's medical reports will be held today and tomorrow.
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>>530049839
SERCH: famiglia nel bosco
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literal gypsies
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>>530049839
Why? Is washing hands a crime?
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>>530050112
no.
social services are racist anti-white
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>>530050112

Only if you are short l, so lifting up the hands until the tap looks like a Roman salute that only Nazis do.
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>>530049839
>hand washing propaganda
Hate seeing this shit. Eliminate all safety psycho nigger karens.
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>>530050112
They refuse vaccines and aren't putting them in schools. Can't do that. Kids need education and health. Living in the woods 24 hours is not good.
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>>530049839
>and no one ever noticed
>that in the usual spot where the good mushrooms they used to harvest grew
>a monster had dribbled poison on them

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vizwFhNlBb4
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>>530049839
Did they own the land they were living on or were they in some state owned forest?
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>>530050112
Italians are even more filthy than indians
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>>530050678
>Living in the woods 24 hours is not good
It's unconventional but there is not dangerous about it. The woods is peaceful.
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>>530050112
not in Europe
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>>530050678
>can't do that
Oh yes they can, nigger.
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>>530050889
Not Italian, but you have to understand their mentality. They’re very jealous and bitter people. Their country suffered major setbacks after getting their asses handed to them in WW2, their nation was in ruins after this and they were extremely poor and poverty fuelled, and so since then they’ve always been in the shadow of the other bigger and more influential western nations, like France, the UK and even their former allies the Germans. Not to mention the increasing influence of America and other nations of the world. Italy just became irrelevant. Even today they have slums in Italy still that are full of extreme poverty.

So after this, all they had left of influence was their food. It was the only thing they had left to be prideful of and so they can’t stand to see other nations take what they see as theirs and change it or make it better. They’re hanging into their last shred of dignity and relevance by playing ignorant, shouting and screaming if someone dares to cook “their” food. Of course the reality being it isn’t their food anymore and that Italian food in Italy has gone backwards, suffering from their years of poverty and that the evolution of their food has continued in much richer nations, America for instance has way better Italian food nowadays than Italy. You can also find better Italian food in France, which is the thing they hate the most. The fact that French food became the dominant force in gastronomy really gets to them. It’s sad, but that’s how it is.
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>>530049839
Looks comfy as fuck.

Of course it'd make jews mad.
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>>530049839
Did they accidently walk south across the borders, without their proper documents ready?
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>>530051119
show your flag.
we literally never think about anyone but ourselves, and laugh at the vile swill you call food.
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>>530051229
Wopslop is 100% grains, worst food in Europe by far
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>>530050764
>Gypsies homesteading
You take a wild guess.
But hat off to the fact that they even did what they did, rather than set up their home in a large public toilet in some city like they usually do.
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>>530050678
>>Living in the woods 24 hours is not good

Humanity has been living in the woods for tens of thousands of years. State wants kids in school so they can teach them what the state wants them to learn. Let the family live the life they've chosen, learn how to survive without cell phones and super markets. When the kids get older they can choose for themselves what life they want to live.
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>>530051197
based kangaroos telling Luigi to get fucked
fuckin KEK
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>>530050678
>Kids need education and health.
Yeah this is why I want death for all safety psychos. These people want to take your kids because they're not washing their hands for the full 20 seconds.

You know how the government has come out and said eggs are good/bad alternatingly for 40 years? That's about the level they're on with childcare and health.
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>>530051002
>Europe
like you would know Jean-Mehmed
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>>530051197
>>530051755
Why go to italy for this? Surely they could've done that in Australia
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>>530050112
If your kids are making old politicians hard then anything is a crime.
Those little girls are gonna get introduced to the Little St James EU Branch.
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>>530051845
"Education" is particularly nasty, vile, and retarded.
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>>530050678
>Living in the woods 24 hours is not good.
People do it in Portugal nigger
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>>530051879
I was thinking the same, but Europe has nice forests, too
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Wait, why is the mother being seperated? I heard she was acting weird in the new government facility, did something happen?
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>>530051930
>nasty
They portray subhuman african and aboriginals as equals
>vile
they twist our history, don't teach the Byzantines or Khazaria, and lie about the Holocaust
>retarded
lessons are designed to proceed slowly to accommodate niggers who are subhuman and learn at an animal's pace
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>>530049839
Why is an Australian family living in the woods in Italy? They don't have eucalyptus woods in Australia?
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>>530050112
Because a family thriving outside the system makes the kike overlords look bad. You are supposed to live under their boot and use their banks and credits so they can extract wealth from you.
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>>530052085
True, we have nice forests but we also have a multitude of deadly animals. I guess for this family that would be more relevant than most. Deadly snakes/spiders are a joke to me, the urban loser, but if you wanted to go live in the bush well now they are actually a problem.
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>>530050678
is that all? glad i dont live in italy because this would have happened to my family already.
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>>530052102
>nasty
I mean the list goes on

Homosexuality
Race mixing
Pedophilia
Getting the kid who "retaliated" in trouble
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>>530051879
>Why go to italy for this? Surely they could've done that in Australia
No idea, it's pretty normal in Aus for cunts to just fuck off into the bush, mother looks italian so maybe she had family there or something.

I mean I have nfi what the story is, but they look like a happy family.
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>>530049839
we had similar issue here with some similar wackos, although the kangaroos look kinda based
the bitch was giving birth in the fuckin woods and lost the baby and there was some rage from the domesticated goyim
im pretty sure after a while everyone forgot, but you know how stupid goyim is - he thinks he knows best for everyone
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>>530052233
Yeah they look cozy as fuck, hope it works out for 'em
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>>530052115
Rightful Latin clay being camped on by Anglo mongrels. Its upsetting but still better than seeing niggers, jeets or semites doing the same.
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>>530052233
Kids can not go to school in Aussie?
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>>530050099
Why they don't separate the gypsy kids from their families?
>>530050678
Keek you need to be programmed like every goy with a 8 hours job
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>>530052327
>Yeah they look cozy as fuck, hope it works out for 'em
I think they've been arrested for child endangerment or some shit.

Place looks rough, but clean and homely.

Looks like they just wanted to live a simple and rustic life.
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>>530050678
Why do they need vaccines if they are in the woods 24/7?
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>>530052217
>>530052233
They're both Anglos, which makes the thing super weird, because they would have had no problems doing this in Canada or Australia or the US. I support them and I hope they leave them alone, but I don't understand why they would try to pull something like this in Europe. They could have asked literally anybody and they would have told them that it wasn't going to fly here
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>>530052211
>the urban loser
-> the city goy, yes
these animals mostly avoid human settlements unless you have a cow and the snek wants some, which literally happens in euro farms
but that doesn't look like a farm and as long as you're away from bears - should be fine.
bear is the only thing that can get you big time in the wild here
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>>530052378
Apparently neither of them is Italian, they're a couple of hippies who met in Bali and decided to move to Italy for some reason

>Nathan Trevallion, 51, is British. His wife Catherine Birmingham, 45, is Australian. The couple moved to Italy in 2021, settling in a stone farmhouse in the woods near Palmoli, in the province of Chieti in Abruzzo. They had three children: a daughter of eight and twin boys of six. The farmhouse had no running water and used a dry toilet. The children were educated at home by their mother using a Steiner-inspired unschooling method that prioritised creativity and natural learning over formal literacy and numeracy.
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>>530052504
I think the Italian government told them they had to install sewage so the kids can shower and go to the toilet, and they tested the kids language and maths skills and they were like retard level, so obviously not being home schooled properly
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>>530052408
i think they have more freedom to homeschool that most places in europe yeah. north americans seem to have the best conditions in this regard.

>>530052587
yeah i dont get it. europe is not the place to head for if you want this kind of life. would need to look into the story some more.
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>>530052587
>try to pull something like this in Europe
I think it might have something to do with the
oi mate do you have loicense for that ei
now that you mentioned the anglo world
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>>530052408
>Kids can not go to school in Aussie?
Yeah you can home school kids here, I grew up in the bush and was home schooled, then went to university, then back to the bush. It's not a big deal here.

>Homeschooling is legal and growing in rural Australia, with over 30,000 students in Australia, including those in remote areas, utilizing flexible, tailored education to overcome, among other things, distance and limited school resources.
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>>530052688
sounds great. its just the idea of trying to do it in Italy that's confusing me. maybe they are your typical anti US/North America fags or something.
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How come italians have such large noses?
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>>530050678
Oh so theyre based
And thats not allowed because our governments are evil.
Got it.
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>>530052893
The children were already born when they moved to Italy, so they might have been looking for a country that let them home school before they reached the obligatory schooling age.
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Brief considerations for those unfamiliar with Hell-Italy.
1) Italy has been a US colony since 1945.
2) In 1968, the Communists took control of Culture.
3) Since 1992, Italy has been part of the EU, through the Schengen Area and Maastricht Agreements.
4) In 2001, the euro arrived and definitively destroyed Italy.
5) Since 1996, 500,000 immigrants have arrived from abroad. Only about 100,000 have left for Europe.
6) Italians are taxed at 50% to keep Italy in the euro, to give the banks 80 billion in interest per year on public debt, and to support IMMIGRANTS.
7) WHITE PEOPLE ARE PERSECUTED, FOREIGNERS DO WHAT THEY WANT: they kill, rape, steal, and pay nothing.
8) This Australian family just wanted to live in peace, but the Hijau-Bolshevik regime was jealous of their freedom and began persecuting them. Of course, there are 50,000 Roma children in Italy, but the judges don't look at them and don't take them away from their mothers...
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>>530051229
>we literally never think about anyone but ourselves, and laugh at the vile swill you call food
Only foreigners outside of think Italy has any mystique, like stupid American women
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>>530052587
>They're both Anglos
How are they even living in Italy then? Illegally?

>>530052690
>and they tested the kids language and maths skills and they were like retard level, so obviously not being home schooled properly
Yeah that's not good then. The cunts who are home schooled here do better than the cunts that actually go to school.
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>>530051879
Didnt wanna live with so many spiders probably.
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>>530052893
>>530052778
>>530052854
Italy literally warned them 10000 times that it was fine but they to install a toilet and shower for the kids, and the kids had to score within the non-retarded percentile when tested once a year on maths and language
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I think it would be better if the willing participants collaborating with politics and media, the servile ‘woke’ toads of the satanic theosophist/judaism religion all stopped existing.
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>>530053142
5) 500k /year. obviously.
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>>530051879
>live in the woods in Australia
>get raped by emus and killed by man eating spiders
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>>530052854
Yes everyones remarkably free in your part of the world. Noted for it, it is. Ask any scuttling hunchback.
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>>530050678
Cut your own throat
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I hope they can escape.
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>>530052905
Oxygen is free
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Pedo >>530050678
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>>530049839
I'll take the in the middle
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>>530052690
>and they tested the kids language and maths skills and they were like retard level
Never happened lol
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>>530053085
yeah

>>530053234
why does the government get to force you into installing that shit? its not necessary.
> the kids had to score within the non-retarded percentile when tested once a year on maths and language
id need t look into what the actual case was. just because some government fuck says that all kids everywhere MUST be doing X by Y date doesn't mean its so. some learning system dont bring math into play until later than others, based on different ideas about how kids learn best.

i think that the free to pursue different plans and ways of life is a good thing.
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>>530053508
Hi. Yes. Remember me? What you did to me, on your home territory? See, now the boot is on the other foot. And you, you allowed me entry, by forfeiting your entire country's sovereign power for petty revenge. Petty. Mind you. Petty.

Let me show you a real vengeance is tow. I will collapse this entire planet, upon your skull.

:)
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AUSTRALIAN FREN informe australian politics and save this family, please.
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>>530053836
australians had literal concentration camps for purebloods, you think they care?
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>>530051879
They can do it legally in the states, just go to utah.
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WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY TAXES FOR PUBLIC SERVICES TO THESE ENTITLED WIGGERS

YES THIS DOES AFFECT ME PERSONALLY. FUCK HOMESCHOOLING

-enfranchised libratarian millenial that moved up the ladder
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>>530053085
they really should have checked it out befor emoving there. also, becoming a member of a homeschoolers legal defense association would have been a HUGE help once the government bastards started hassling them. once you're in one of those and the jackboots turn up at your door, you just tell them you'll be contacting your lawyer and they should deal with them directly. a lot of times just mentioning your lawyer up front can get them off your back.

>>530053940
Canada is really very good for homeschoolers too.
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>>530050112
Jews
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>>530050112
It is a Muslim practice to wash your hands. Completely treyf for normal Europeans.
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>>530049839
I can't believe parents would subject their kids to a lower standard of living just because 'MUH VIKING ANCESTOR LITERALLY LIVED MUD HUTS BRO'
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>>530053360
or a man that is eating spiders
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>>530053989
You pay taxes to satanic pedophiles.
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>>530053234
>Italy literally warned them 10000 times that it was fine but they to install a toilet and shower for the kids
Kek my toilet is just a massive hole in the ground and my baths are all rainwater that I heat with a fire and coiled copper.
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>>530054083
I'm all for homeschooling but I'm dubious about this specific case, you can't have hippies raising feral children that will just become a burden for everyone else once their parents croak.
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>>530050678
>zogbot training is mandatory
Public education is Circumcision for the brain
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>>530052871
the crime of not feeding goyslop to childred
bet those girls have like 120 iq from climbing up trees and constantly breathing clean air
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>>530049839
Hey we are already slated to bomb the immigrants and libtards out of Spain. Do you need an invasion too?
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>>530054359
I'm a productive member of society SUBJECTED by pedophile kikeslaves

These anglos were just retard and nobody has the guts to hate the poor and retarded these days
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>>530054309
some cornsyrup, a couple dozen mandatory vaccines, and American public schooling would do them good, surely
too bad they cant be circumcised to produce face cream
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>>530050678
Yes it is you stupid animal
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>>530052233
>>530051755
>>530051197
>>530049839
Looks comfy man. Also looks like those kids arent getting screamed at for 8 hours a day about how theyre evil and how they need to sacrifice their entire civilization and bloodline for niggers, so obviously it has to go.

They should have come to Alaska, I have some sons that could have married those girls eventually. Pity.

Well anyway the day the state takes my kids is the day I have nothing to lose, and unlike mentally ill troons or "far-right incels" I know which people actually facilitate these types of things, if you catch my drift lads.
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>>530054553
You are retarded and poor.
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>>530049839
Well are the Italian authorities going to be met with belt fed weapons when they roll up on the compound?
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>>530054416
>children that will just become a burden for everyone else once their parents croak.
That's what is happening already with public school
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>>530054416
>but I'm dubious about this specific case,
why though? i dont see any reason why these kids will be a burden or badly behaved. the parents are no burden are they? they seem a decent white family just living a simple life. a life that you can be 100% sure is a lot nicer and calmer and more wholesome than most other peoples lives, especially all the niggers they are letting in. those are a burden to everyone, constantly.
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>>530054309
I hate that you have that flag so fucking badly man.

You disgust me on a primal level.
>>530054416
>Cant
Never did a thing in his life. You absolutely CAN do anything, brother. You just have to accept that other people CAN try and stop you.

What is your Will worth?
>>530054588
Based desert-convict descendant. The spirit of that iron man Kelly lives on I see.
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>>530053836
>AUSTRALIAN FREN informe australian politics and save this family, please.
I don't think anyone here has heard about this, it's certainly the first i'm hearing about it.

Any idea how they're even in Italy? If they're there illegally just deport them back to Aus as a family, they'll sell their story to some TV channel, pocket a 100k then use the money to fuck off into the bush and keep doing the hippie thing.

>>530053890
>australians had literal concentration camps for purebloods, you think they care?
LMFAO no we fucking didn't.
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>>530053225
>Oh no they can't do equations fucking kill them
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Why do so many people here think it's based to make your kids shit in a bucket? Retardation? No running water, no electricity; I'm sure the kids were "fine" with it because it's what they were used to, but if you put them in an actual home for a week they'd quickly learn to love the toilet.
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>>530050678
They don t go to school so they don t need vaccines to protect others. Home schooling shouldn t be a crime. What the fuck are they supposed to learn in school that their parents can t teach them ? Holohoax history ? You didn t saw any problem locking down people during cohen 19 and kids doing remote school. Why do you care so much about those kids ? Are you a pedo or something ? Let them be, they have parents who love them, that s already enough.
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>>530055047
>LMFAO no we fucking didn't.
Its the internet so it shouldn't be taken as gospel but I do remember some of the worst Covid-karen shit coming out of Aus brother. Those camps with white trailers, was that just a photo-op then?

Genuinely dont know. So hard to know what is fake or not these days lol. I just assume the worst and am occasionally pleasantly surprised.
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>>530055047
>Any idea how they're even in Italy?
it could be that the husband, a Brit, managed to get settled there before brexit made that a lot harder. not sure. haven't looked into this yet
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>>530054601
God damn how much meat do you get off a moose mate?

We get 100-150k from a camel, moose looks like it'd be way more.
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I'm not necessarily against homeschooling but those children couldn't even write their names and they were afraid of showers
>>530050889
post a pic of the bidet in your house
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>>530055202

Because majority of parents don't actually care about their children.
Most kids are born because parents fucked out of impulse and then the woman got pregnant and they just decide to keep the kid.
The kids end up as accessories for lifestyle choices, but there's no real care for their wellbeing or feelings.
Sure it's fine making them live like cavemen when they're kids and can be entertained by anything, but when those kids become teenagers and realize there's a whole another world out there that's when the problems start.
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>>530055334
a lot. especially if its as far north as Alaska/Yukon
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>>530050112
no jeet, not every country is like india.
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>>530051611
>Humanity has been living in the woods for tens of thousands of years.
Half of children also died before age 10 during that time.
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>>530055047
>>530055047
First, the father arrived with a work permit, and then last year his wife and children arrived, and they're living legally.
The problem is that the judges and social workers are communists; they saw that they were living freely without indoctrination from school and politics, and that's not good for them.
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>noooooo who will think of the schizerinos in the forestina
GODO
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>>530055409
Being well adjusted to a profoundly sick society isn't something to be proud of
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>>530049839
I genuinely do not give a shit. Absolute nonsense story. Classic italian distraction fotm bomb
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>>530055232
>but I do remember some of the worst Covid-karen shit coming out of Aus brother.
Mate you locked cunts up in military bases all across the US, you wouldn't let cunts step foot on a plane for years without being vaxxed, we'd dropped all our covid shit literally years before you cunts did and most of Aus had two weeks of bullshit then nothing. It was only victoria that went completely insane with the shit because they're california tier.

>Those camps with white trailers, was that just a photo-op then?
Nope that was legit, mining accomodation the NT used to quarantine travellers because they don't have massive hotels or anything up there like the rest of the country. I mean if you want to pretend the entire planet wasn't quaranting travellers in hotels at the time, be my guest, but you'd even more full of shit than the typical burger is.
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>>530055660

Maybe not, but neither is being raised by two dysgenic hippies and never seeing other kids and growing up both socially and intellectually retarded.
Now I'm not saying school makes you in any way smart, but these parents sure as fuck aren't capable of teaching those kids anything of importance.
If anything the liberal types are even more likely to tell their kids about holocaust and poor jews than their school is.
There can be a middle ground to these things, but this isn't it.
If you have some kind of a healthy community with other families and houses that are actually up to modern standard, instead of everyone having to shit in a bucket, it's an entirely different situation.
And most importantly that environment can't have any fucking hippies or turbo religious retards.
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>>530055360
evidence?
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>>530055334
That one was a roadkill yearling, probably 2. My neighbor and me harvested that wreck of a cow. Poor thing had a shattered hip and let, so we got a lot less.

I ended up with about 60 lbs of chuck and 2 backstraps.

On a big bull, hundreds of lbs.

>>530055453
Alaska yeah. Big lads around here. I have a young bull that made his winter camp on my property. I also had a cow and calf but I killed that calf recently with a .22 for charging my kids. Hit it in the guts. I turned that one over though, not worth the 10k fine and them taking the gun if I got caught harvesting it lol.

If that bull doesnt fuck off back into the mountains by the season im tagging him. Fill the freezer.

>>530055597
>free
Cant have that. Won't change until men start sacrificing for what they beleive in. Until then its feminine, impotent words. We are all guilty of it to a degree.
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>>530054446
Excellent phrase
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>>530055830
Don't have a melty bro I genuinely dont know because I wasn't there. I was stuck in Hawaii the ENTIRE time it was pretty bad. Couldn't go in a grocery store without some hired goon using force on you if you didnt wear the Jew-flap over your mouth.

I beleive you man simmer down haha.
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>>530056099
>, but these parents sure as fuck aren't capable of teaching those kids anything of importance.
thanks for making it clear that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
>oh no, shitting in a bucket
the horror. also, thanks for making it clear you've no idea what you're taking about again.
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>>530055597
>First, the father arrived with a work permit, and then last year his wife and children arrived, and they're living legally.
>The problem is that the judges and social workers are communists; they saw that they were living freely without indoctrination from school and politics, and that's not good for them.
Have they been charged with any crimes? Might make it tricky to get them back to Aus if they are facing charges in Italy.
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that's because they're white and living off grid.
We can't have that, white people must liv ein a stressful enironment, work 24/7 to repay loans to the jewish masters. While the kids are indoctrinated about diversity and trans rights in school.
We can't allow these to live in their own community and teach their own values to kids, the kids will be separated from their parents and put in kids center where they will be raped by local politicians as soon as possible.
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>>530056099
I know a bit about it, as a homeschooled kid and a guy that homeschools a bunch of kids in Rural Alaska. We had a thread about it yesterday.
>Hippies
Often do "unschooling", no standards, lots of weird adults in and out of the homes, kids get sort of 'lost'. Pretty bad.
>Religious zealots
Yes there are many of these. Their kids often have no fucking clue about anything modern and they have no social skills. These types are often fine academically but utterly crippled if they want to integrate with mainstream society. Also bad.
>tweakers, welfare roaches
They are doing what they do anyway, the kids are abused, more than the two examples above. Its awful. No accountability.
>people like me
Loving parents who fundamentally understand that the state raising your kids for 8+ hours a day during critical formative years means the kids will absorb and internalize the ethics, morals and philosophical worldview of the state. There is only so much you can do to counter this.

My kids are far ahead of public school kids, and I rotate them in and out of a private school depending on the kid and what they need at the time.

Don't be so black and white brother you sound like a fucking retard who doesnt understand the topic.
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>>530050678
>>530049839
welcome to demonworld
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>>530051879
They can also homeschool here without any issues. Maybe they couldn't afford a house here.
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>>530050678
>They refuse vaccines and aren't putting them in schools
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>>530056898
Maybe they just dont like the 'Is Actually Hell' server in the game of Life and wanted to play on an easier server in Europe?
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>>530051611
Yeah but they are completely isolated. Those villages dont exist anymore, people were not alone back then but they all worked and socialized together.
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>>530055209
Homeschooling is not a crime in Italy, but you need a bunch of paperwork to make it legal.
Your kids also need to take a test once in a while to make sure you're actually teaching them the basics (kid-tier grammar and math).

Those Australians probably weren't aware of the requirements and simply fucked off in the wilderness, which is something you can rarely do in civilized countries.
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>>530056898
>Maybe they couldn't afford a house here.
Good chance, property is cheap in Italy, whereas you're paying 200k-300k for the shittiest of off grid properties here, twice that if you want a ton of land with it.
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>>530057113
Thats actually true. Isolation is not good for people. It can be done(by whites and east asians) but it is tough and solitude erodes your mind and soul, regardless of what people say. Madness creeps in.

Some are more resiliant than others. But yes the modern homeschool thing is interesting and people fail because they try and simply fuck off innawoods, alone and go mad.

I know a woman with two sons, they all went out into the bush here with the dad. He went crazy over time. We are talking they had to use a canoe to get over a river to get to their property, had to move goats over with the boat.

He went crazy, beat them bad. She came back and is working on renting a duplex and building a bus to be a home and is taking her 2 sons BACK OUT but WITHOUT the dad.

They'll die up here, btw.

Good example of why the homestead larp is such a bad idea. We need other people, not just physically, psychologically and spiritually.
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>>530052871
>then back to the bush
based, I wish I had the guts to leave all this computer gimmicks
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>>530051755
They aren't embracing african nigger cocks and getting raped by muslims there. You vill return to the city and accept the rape!
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>>530056100
that's what our journos said that the social services said, not the most trustworthy source but it's the only one we have. The shower part is probably overblown but them being illiterate is probably true.
Anyway idk why they expected to be able to live the off-grid lifestyle in Italy of all places, I'm sure that there are countries where you can have a lot more freedom in this regard, the house they lived in didn't even have a certificate of habitability
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>>530057285
>make sure you're actually teaching them the basics (kid-tier grammar and math).
like i said above, some learning systems dont bring math into the program until later than most state programs choose to do. its based on different theories about how kids best learn. i really disagree with the idea that the state gets to define this for your kids. its just another intrusion.
in my experience of homeschooling my kids, they really do grasp things in their own time and in the own way if you allow them thte freedom to do so. trying to force every kid to reach the same level based solely on their age is bullshit, because what can take one kid a week to get the hang of at age 5 might take another kid 2 days to grasp at age 8, and trying to force them when their brains aren't ready causes all kinds of negative effects.
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>>530052587
>They're both Anglos
No way the mother looks italian as fuck
>>530052871
>>530052504
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>>530057672
Leaf-bro you were in the thread about this yesterday, no?
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>>530053429
>scuttling hunchback
i wish I knew what that is
>remarkably free
nope, instead we can't run away from the commie times when everyone wants to tell you what you should do. unfortunately. but that doesn't make you anyhow less loicense requiring bongo
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>>530051119
>America for instance has way better Italian food nowadays than Italy. You can also find better Italian food in France
This is weirdly untrue. I go to italy as often as I can for the food there. Nothing in the US ever comes anywhere near close to it
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>>530057701
>No way the mother looks italian as fuck
Yeah I thought that to, she def doesn't look Australian.

But a bunch of italians came to Aus after WW2, she'd be about the right age to be a kid of that generation of italian immigrant. She's got a pretty British sounding last name, but she could have had an Aussie dad, Italian mum etc
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>>530050678
Kill yourself immediately
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>>530057113
>Yeah but they are completely isolated.
do we know this, that they had ZERO contact with anyone else, ever? and even if that waas true for a while, whats wrong with it? theyve got siblings and both parents around all the time, and thats fine for younger kids. they'll want to meet other kids eventually.

>>530057479
>Good example of why the homestead larp is such a bad idea
homesteading doesn't mean you never see anyone else though. if the guy went crazy then he was probably already headed that way before choosing to isolate himself and the family. hardly a reasonable general example.

my homeschool kids have two other homeschool kids over to pay at my place right now. they go to meetups and parties and the rest of it. everyone in the large local homeschool group is the same way

>>530057613
even if theres no shower, who cares? its completely irreverent. my mother and father grew up quite normally at a time when everyone bathed once a week in a tin tub outside.
i think we've really lost perspective to worry about this kind of thing.
>didn't even have a certificate of habitability
more government bullshit if you ask me, especially when you see how they use these kind of thing to push various agendas and have the state more and more involved in your life. the idea that the state cares more about my kids and their safety than me and my wife in terms of how safe the house is, always makes me laugh.
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>>530057744
yeah i remember the one
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>>530051119
Best Italian food by a country mile I have ever had was in Florence Italy.
That is an absurd statement.
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>>530051197
Oh no wonder. That looks mega comfy.
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>>530049839
based australians deserve no mercy
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>>530058140
Well, yeah man, thats why I was giving an example of how it can and often does go very wrong.

People who think they can "escape from the world" and hide do not usually do well. The mindset needs to be "we are severing ties with modernity and disconnecting from the propaganda but we need a strong community of like-minded people". Homesteading and homeschooling have a lot of cross-over. Sure the single men who buy a patch and build a cabin do fine, they just want to be left be. Its the families.

Ironically the movie The VVitch is subtly redpilled. The Father, in supreme arrogance and theological bull-headedness (funny where else do we see independent, intelligent men endlessly rip each other apart while their enemies capitalize on this divide?) Separates from community and goes it alone. The daughter is seduced into feminism and kills the family. The son is seduced by a whore. The mother is consumed by resentment and spite. The father is brought low by hubris.

I am also a homeschooler brother. We agree, I believe. I think we were both in the thread yesterday.
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>>530049839
>live like primitives without running water and electricity in a crumbling ruin
This is how our gypsies live. If you think this is somehow trad and based you are delusional. These children will grow up to become either regressive luddites who will never integrate into society, or spiteful revengers who will skin their parents alive for what they did to them. No wonder they are investigated
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>>530058355
Yes I agreed with practically everything g you said and then it went to shit because that Trauma victim from West Virginia came in and started telling everyone he wanted to "take their kids" and "make them comply" in order to "reduce government involvement" in family life.
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>>530057613
>that's what our journos said that the social services said, not the most trustworthy source but it's the only one we have.
None of this is true, they did the exams and were up to speed for their age, what happened is that one of the kids got some light food poisoning and they brought him to the hospital, there everything started to unfold, the hospital insisted they get vaccinated and when they found out they didn't go to public school and were not vaccinated they called the social services and then the whole media charade started.
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>>530057976
our cuisine is ingredient-based, and since it's built around the ingredients that are normally grown here it's no surprise that this is where it works best. This doesn't mean that you can't make an excellent italian dish elsewhere, just mind the ingredients you are using
>>530058140
>even if theres no shower, who cares?
I don't disagree, in my town when my grandpa was young nobody had a toilet inside their home and most people took a hot bath only once a week, and yet those people grew up healthy as an ox. I'm just saying that as foreigners those aussies should have been aware of this government bullshit before deciding to settle here, it's fair to consider the italian law cucked but since I doubt that their plan was to become martyrs to promote a change I don't know what they were thinking
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>>530049839
who fucking cares, just send the whole family back to Australia and be done with it
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>>530052177
>a family thriving outside the system
The whole reason the family got flagged by authorities in the first place was they brought their kids to the hospital after feeding them foraged mushrooms that were poisonous and nearly killed them. Staff at the hospital found the kids were suffering from chronic malnourishment and vitamin deficiency.

They were not “thriving”. They were living in squalor barely keeping their kids alive. This isn’t a family that’s been living off the grid for ten generations, these are some fucking middle class White suburbanites who got it into their heads they could build a shanty in the fucking woods and live off the grid with no skills or survival knowledge.
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>>530050678
I can see why Portugal is the UK's oldest ally with shit takes like this.
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>>530058689
>often does go very wrong.
i dont know thats its often. i find that often such claims are exaggerated.
>I am also a homeschooler brother. We agree, I believe
in some ways sure. but i dont think looking to a hollyjew movie for perspectives on the reality of trying to be separate from an increasingly degenerate world is all that reasonable.
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>>530058758
yeah, i remember that guy. pretty sad really. he might have really had a bad experience due to the parents not being very responsible.
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>>530058869
>I'm just saying that as foreigners those aussies should have been aware of this government bullshit before deciding to settle here,
yeah for sure, you're absolutely right. as outsiders they are always going to be more vulnerable to state attacks.
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>>530058869
Because the australian situation is way worse, anglo countries are literal hell on earth for anyone seeking freedom but Italy has been following the same trends in the last decade, it's just that the system here is so inefficient you can get away with it if you are smart.
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>>530059147
their homeschooling is actually pretty good so far as comparison to the rest of teh world goes. better than nearly all of europe.
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>>530050725
90% of these retards who do foraging shit can’t tell the difference between safe and poisonous mushrooms. California had a big bloom of death caps around San Fran and Alameda this last season and like 60+ people were hospitalized from eating them and like a dozen straight up died or needed emergency liver transplants.
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>>530050678
>>530049839
Why do they live in Italy if they are Australian? Why did they not leave before the jewish law came for them?
The family looks BASED and it is SAD.
We need details QRD! And in English, please, most of us don't speak and read Spaghetti language.
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>>530059247
I guess that's because it's a vast piece of landmass with low density of population, so historically building schools for every community wasn't economically viable, still, this family wanted to be outside of government's overreach, homeschooling wasn't their only objective.
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>>530058975
What makes you think I "look to a movie". Its just an interesting example.
I barely watch any movies, almost all are trash.

Anyway, where I am, that "bad ending" is more common than id like. But that doesnt mean I am not an advocate for homeschooling. Its moreso that I believe it is necessary to recognize the pitfalls and dangers involved. That applies to everything.

I think shying away from acknowledging those dangers is naive and gives ammo to those who believe we shouldn't even have the right to raise our families how we see fit.
>>530059032
Yeah he actually was quite sad. Hope he reconciles that.
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>>530059094
They probably thought as foreigners why would anyone care if they're homeschooling and miss a couple of forms. Which makes sense, unless you know how normies think, in which case you'd know they believe as members of the borg your children also belong to the borg and all you're doing is a bad job of borgifying them, so it's their right to take them and borgify them if you won't, and that makes them good people and you bad. Aren't normies just the best. One of us. One of us.
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>>530059147
>anglo countries are literal hell on earth for anyone seeking freedom
can't you just buy a property and go completely off grid without anyone bothering you in the US? What's the catch? Besides needing to be an American citizen of course, but I'm talking in general
>>530059094
sadly true, people rightfully brought up the numerous gypsy kids that live in much worse conditions and that nobody does anything about, but that family was a more interesting case for the media to latch onto like >>530055684 said
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>>530058869
>I'm just saying that as foreigners those aussies should have been aware of this government bullshit before deciding to settle here
Hippies (i'm assuming they are) always have a hilariously optimistic outlook of the world, they believe if they're not doing harm to anyone else, then no one will do harm to them etc So if they weren't stealing, weren't being a nuisance to the local community, were just quietly living their lives, then no one would have any reason to wish them ill will.

It's an admirable quality, but hilariously naive. Tends to quickly mutate into full blown libertarianism at first contact with the state.

>>530058901
>just send the whole family back to Australia and be done with it
Not possible, we only accept jeets, chinks, niggers or muslims. You'll have to send them back in blackface at the very least.
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>>530052688
>prioritised creativity and natural learning over formal literacy and numeracy.

kids need to know how to read/write, count, and measure objects, anything that ignores this is pseudoscience fit for niggers.
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>>530058404
Olive Garden is the best Italian food imo, they prepare a fantastic chicken alfredo
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>>530051879
That’s a good way to get your face eaten by a pack of dingoes, m8.
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>>530059681
>can't you just buy a property and go completely off grid without anyone bothering you in the US? What's the catch?
Have you ever heard about Waco?
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>>530052688
That's sound great. What's the problem
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>>530054259
You smell horribly muhammad
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>>530049839
Kill everyone from the state involved beginning with the social workers and ending with the judge. It has to be done all in a single day
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Just red the story,

1) the cops were notified after all the kids nearly died from eating poisonus mushrooms.

2) the cops checked the placed and it had no running water nor a sewage system. The ancient building was all sorts of not up to code and would collapse if there was an earthquake.

3) the British and Aussie couple did not take the kids to school ever.
Homeschooling in Italy is legal but you need to do yearly exams at a government building to make sure the you are actually educating them. If you don't do the yearly test the cops assume you aren't teaching them anything and that is a criminal form of child neglect.

4) the govt. Official in charge also argued that keeping the kids so isolated from anyone else could be bad for their development.

Anyway the italian deputy PM got involved saying the local authorities overstepped their roles in their decisions so it.might get reversed .
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>>530059440
i just think it sounds like the kind of perspective that the government would like to make more commonly thought of when people think about those strange crazy people who dont like the government. havent seen it but thats the gist i got from your quick description.
i dont think anyone here is shying away from anything really. i tend to find that the 'risks' and 'dangers' are exaggerated actually, and occur rarely, simply because the vast majority of people aren't trying to live as if they are the last people on earth. those are extreme outliers and even less common that the sorts of things the anon yesterday was fixated on.

>>530059441
>They probably thought as foreigners why would anyone care if they're homeschooling and miss a couple of forms
possibly yeah. would be interesting to talk to them and find out the full story.
>borgify
kek, i like that term. resistance (in italy) is futile.
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>>530051868
>French migrant have a opinion
I couldn't give less of a fuck
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>>530059906
>Waco
that thing about a big shooting between policemen and some christian sect? I barely know anything about it, I'll go and have a read
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>>530059906
that was a very very different situation in many ways. if Howell hadn't gone full retard they would have carried on living by themselves like the community had been since the 1940s.
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>>530050678
>your child will get heart inflammation from the clotshot and you will like it
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>>530059147
>Because the australian situation is way worse, anglo countries are literal hell on earth for anyone seeking freedom
Absolute horseshit mate, we enjoy more freedoms than even the US with respect to living off grid.

I don't have building restrictions, I don't have hunting limits, I don't have fishing limits, I don't have limits on logging, I don't have restrictions on rainwater capture, I don't have sewerage requirements, hell my solar panels are subsidized by the government because i'm not a drain on the power network. I pay $1200 a year in council rates for my property and that's it.
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>>530050678
I hope the parents kill the cops who try to kidnap their children.
Fuck the state.
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>>530054402
Peak bogan comfyposting
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>>530060316
sounds chill af ngl, living in a crammed and highly regulated place I often dream about what it would be like to live freely in a big and lonely property in the middle of nowhere
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>>530060173
It's scary when you think about just how righteously confident normies are that they can steal other peoples children for not following a very strict and narrow path on their upbringing. People laugh at normies that join cults for their ridiculous behaviours not releasing they display those very same behaviours towards being member of "society". It's tragic I hope they get their children back from the cultish kidnappers.
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>>530054402
damn bro you have it made
that patio is sick
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>>530050678
>Can't do that. Kids need education and health

Right so don't vaxx them and keep them out of school
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>>530053989
>Burger flag
>Pay taxes
>It Italy
Y r u dum
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>>530060292
long story short is that the Branch Davidians had been living a very isolated way of life since the 1940s and nobody really cared because they were just a bit of a funny semi-cult but seemed nice enough. what started the problems was that Vernon Howell took it over from the previous 'prophet', set himself up as the new and most important prophet for the endtimes, got a bunch of his followers to give them their wives and started having babies with them all. This got them on the state radar, but the state couldn't make a case of child abuse or anything. It was their involvement in firearms trading, wanting to modify rifles to full auto, and eventually the purchase of lots of grenade casing and material to make them explosive that brought on the ATF involvement.

the ATF then royally fucked up by coming on very very strong during their bungled raid, shooting started, and before you knew it the place was on fire and everyone died.
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>>530054402
Now this is Bogan living. Damn Bruce, you got it made.
That view and porch is spectacular
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>>530054446
Kek,
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>>530059420
Because a disturbing number of whites around the world have this hangup about coming to America even though it's the only realistic place to escape to if you don't want to vaxx your kids or put them in government school. If they had come to Florida or Montana they'd have been safe from some lunatic jew judge taking their kids from them.
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>>530060173
I understand your apprehension and your hesitance to talk about it in those terms. But i am someone who is deep into this and completely committed, hyper aware of the government attempting to demonize it, and fully on board with severance from the state apparatus as far as allowing them to form my children's moral worldview.

I am not talking to (you) as a detractors, but an insider, because I recognized you from the other thread and I actually read what you said. I consider this exchange an in-group diacussion, btw.

I agree with you about the way these ideas are demonized and I spend a good amount of time trying to counter that. Part of that is that the in-group needs to recognize the pitfalls and bad cases and understand how to defend our stances and ways of life and maneuver those fringe cases.

Like I said, Alaska has a lot of wild people. Most are fine. Many are not. I said "more than id like". That doesnt mean "constantly"

But if you and I, who actually do live this life and condone it, cannot discuss these things, what's the point?
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>>530060295
He didn't do anything that wasn't in his rights, the state was just looking at an excuse to murder dissidents
>>530060292
The point is that the state wants to exercise full control over your life, you can only be safe as long as you are hidden, it helps if the country is al large as america or australia because there's so much land they have difficulty being everywhere with the current police and military forces but the american government will kill you if they wish to do so, it wasn't even the first time it happened.
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>>530050678
10/10 great post
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>>530049839

A Rape-Camp?
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>>530060547
its all about what you accept as normal, and if you think that this normal should be applied to everyone by force. we can get used to all kind of crazy shit in quite short periods of time.
A lot of people simply dont like to think that their governments are always looking for ways to take your kids away. its the whole 'it could never happen here' idea.
> I hope they get their children back from the cultish kidnappers.
>me too, very much. those kids chances of being abused just sky rocketed. id be going nuts as a parent in that situation, and the government knows this. they deliberately provoke the kind of reaction to their overreach and use it as justification for jailing parents and stealing the kids.
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>>530049839
Meanwhile in Canada.
Go ahead and force them lol
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>>530060634
>the ATF then royally fucked up by coming on very very strong during their bungled raid, shooting started, and before you knew it the place was on fire and everyone died.
Yeah, including children and teens, so much for their well being, right?
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>>530055830
>you wouldn't let cunts step foot on a plane for years without being vaxxed
Completely false. I am a pure blood and travelled several times to see my parents because it was so cheap. I also spent most a good bit of time trying to get arrested under their stupid dictates in my cucked state and the cops wouldn't do it, because I would tell them I needed their information for my lawsuit and they would walk away. I stared sending state and county agencies pictures of me breaking their faggoty rules and they blocked me. Buncha cowardly cunts. I don't think they actually used those quarantine camps, because I tried and they wouldn't do it.
>victoria
Yeah that's the one, they went even more mental than anywhere here. I remember some Bruce from the northern states laughing at them. The riots were fucking awesome too. That one charge that broke the police lines and had that guy take out like six cops in a row was peak kino
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>>530060814
>Part of that is that the in-group needs to recognize the pitfalls and bad cases and understand how to defend our stances and ways of life and maneuver those fringe cases.
oh sure, i get that. been defending it since before i got married because, as you will know, for a lot of people when you mention homeschooling, the first reaction they ever have is thinking that your kids will never see another person etc etc. we've all become so used to mandatory mass schooling that anything else seems strange and even creepy.
>cannot discuss these things, what's the point?
im not trying to be difficult anon. just trying to feel out where you're coming from thats all.

>>530060888
>He didn't do anything that wasn't in his rights
probably not so far as the ATF were concerned, since anything to do with the kids and bigamy was outside their remit. i think that if they'd just arrested the guy away from the building, and done it calmly etc, everything would have been fine.
But what was going on with the kids was definitely wrong.
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>>530050678
KILL YOURSELF
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>>530061220
oh yeah, it was a really really bad fucking idea the way they did it all.
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>>530061398
>probably not so far as the ATF were concerned, since anything to do with the kids and bigamy was outside their remit. i think that if they'd just arrested the guy away from the building, and done it calmly etc, everything would have been fine.
>But what was going on with the kids was definitely wrong.
Yes but what you don't understand is that it wasn't their objective, like the family in the OP it was a huge media case which point was to establish this:
"If you try to leave the grasp of daddy government we WILL kill you" and "we will take your children away".
You know, In italy there's actually a fuckton of gypsy camps, even inside cities like Rome where they have no water, electricity and the kids don't go to school, they actually spend their days teaching them how to steal in metrocs and crowded areas, this is a well known thing and you can literally see this just by walking around these places yourself, strangely nothing has been done about them and this isn't a recent phenomena, it has been like this for decades, what a weird thing, mmh?
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>>530049839
Euro politicians see a white family minding their own business and start shitting their pants in rage.
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>>530060292
Waco was part a successful campaign to kill off right wing militias in the US. The people there were depicted as insane cultists to justify killing them in the eyes of the normalfag retards. Ruby Ridge was part of the same campaign and used similar tactics.
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>>530060522
>sounds chill af ngl, living in a crammed and highly regulated place I often dream about what it would be like to live freely in a big and lonely property in the middle of nowhere
I grew up in the bush, did 5 years at uni, hated the city something fierce, grabbed my worthless bit of paper and went back into the bush. I know some people love the "hustle and bustle" but I found it to be profoundly soul crushing.

>>530060566
Kek the patio is shit, only good thing about it is the view.
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>>530056258
Yeah I got kicked out of so many stores. I would just come back the next day and tell them to call the cops. They stopped doing it after a couple times. Still had to tell off some literal faggot that was having a melt down at the Safeway near by that gave up trying to enforce their bullshit on me. Ended up finding a Korean store that didn't care, well they did but they wanted my money, and an old veitnam vet who ran a liquor store and little grocery store that was psyched that I would come in never wearing masks. He had really good deals on expired beer too. Funny enough he almost went out of business before the corona scam but he had so many people start coming in due to him defying the mask ban that he stayed open till the building kicked him out due to being rebuilt and ending his lease.
What a stupid time
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>>530052690
> they tested the kids language and maths skills and they were like retard level
So about the same as the average kid in 2026
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>>530050112
in your country, most definitely, mr shitter
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>>530061780
Based and based store owner.
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>>530059761
ENDLESS BREAD STICKS
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>>530061704
yeah im sure it was to make an example. im just trying to say that in the eyes of the ATF there was at least some legit concern regarding firearms and grenades. but they went about checking into that in the worst possible way.

>strangely nothing has been done about them and this isn't a recent phenomena, it has been like this for decades, what a weird thing, mmh?
yeah. easier to pick on the quiet peaceful white people i guess. gypos will never cause any trouble to the state and are infact more akin to government (corrupt thieving bastards) and help to keep the normal people in need to police.
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>>530061398
Thats fair. I guess I read your stuff yesterday but I was engaging with other people.

No I am completely on board with the idea that familial sovereignty is critical. I the end, I dont need any justification for the simply idea that this is my family and therefore the State simply has no business being involved. We could go through the endless normie arguments and im sure both of us can systematically dismantle them.

As far as the in-group thing, I do get that the normies will absolutely use a hedge-case as a justification to give the State more power to essentially kidnap other people's kids. Bear in mind, that i am rather extreme in that i believe that there are practically no circumstances in which I would agree to the state taking someones children. I am open to exceptions for serious addicts, rapists, etc. But generally speaking, if the parents are not raping, starving or torturing the kids, I do not consider it the states business.

>>530060547
Agree. They are so casual about the kidnapping of other people's children. It is terrifying how casual this is to them.
>>530060977
And yes, the gov. Is always looking for ways to displace the family, in any way they can. When you give the state a club to beat your ideological opponant, they will in time turn that club on you.
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>>530061780
We're you stationed on Hell Island as well? I was a giant faggot Navy Chinese Linguist for the NSA.
Miserable. Couldn't wait to get out and get my family off that rock.
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>>530061616
Yeah they shouldn't have accidentally firebombed them then gun down the survivors from choppers before teabagging the charred remains. What a big oopsie whoopsie, you massive faggot.
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>>530062189
>generally speaking, if the parents are not raping, starving or torturing the kids, I do not consider it the states business.
yep id go along with that. its the gradual tightening of what 'abuse' means that the state replies on to erode family rights. its illegal in this country to even talk to a kid in a way that opposes any expressions of theirs about wanting to become a tranny or homosexual etc. counseling aimed at helping a kid change their mind and NOT cut a dick off etc, is considered abuse.
So is 'dead naming' your own child. guys have gone to jail over this in canada.
this is obviously insane.
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>>530058930
>vitamin deficiency
Looks like they had two horses, that is _a lot_ of food. They could have eat them instead of losing their family
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>>530062505
No I am born and raised and am basically stuck here. It's both wonderful and painfully retarded simultaneously
It's strange and stupid place that's horribly expensive that also happens to be amazing
If I do fuck off I will probably go inna woods out in [redacted] due to my wife having family up there at the entrance of the mountains. But I still have a pretty decent job here so as I said I am basically stuck. Plus the parents are getting older and I need to stay around for them.
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>>530062630
im obviously talking about the initial warrant serving that started the whole damn thing. and they didn't firebomb anyone. theres a chance the fucking tear gas (unbelievable they did that) aided the spreading of fires but theres also evidence that those fires were caused by heating lamps being knocked over by the tank turrets going through the walls etc.

listen, im not defending the fucking ATF at all. it was a shitshow from the start and very likely deliberately malicious on many peoples parts. but im also not going to pretend that there wasn't a bunch of nasty stuff going on. Howell was a sterotypical kiddy diddling cult leader and he screwed around with an obviously agressive government agency several times, earing out any pretense of patience. .....not that this in anyway means burning the place down was the right thing to do.
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>>530062731
>So is 'dead naming' your own child. guys have gone to jail over this in canada.
Now you're making things up in order to discourage possible immigrants
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>>530062731
This is the issue with "blank slate" in some way. For me it is quite simple, if you give an inch, they will take more. This has always been the case. Its absolutely insane to me that people dont factor this aspect of human nature when talking about these sorts of things.

Yes, I am opposed to parents abusing their kids, I think it is foul and evil.

No, I am not OK with progressively giving an external group of people, who have a pseudo-monopoly on violence, more and more legal and moral grounds to intervene.

Sure, it starts with horrible crimes, but it ALWAYS crawls further and further towards some hideous thing like "your kids must go to a state boarding scholl and can visit 6 times a year for 1 week.

Also Canada is worse that Alaska, from what I understand. Tons of people homeschool here. So we get more "bad cases" but nobody hears about the countless "it was perfectly fine and the kids did fine" cases, because those cases(the majority) arent sensational.
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>>530063117
>theres a chance the fucking tear gas (unbelievable they did that
LOL fuck off glownigger
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>>530049839
Italian judiciary is a crooked masonic shit show. Just look at the Amanda Knox case, Alberto Stasi, Enzo tortora, zuncheddu... The list goes on and on
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>>530062985
Oh right on. I am a cold-weather beast, 25 is t-shirt weather to me, so HI was a little personal hell of mine. But for those who love that climate I say more power to them.
Staying with your parents is honorable. But someday the woods and mountains may call to you. Idk if you are a white man but there is some ancestral call for many of us. My little brother still lives back in PHX, AZ and he feels the call. He literally has dreams about snow and mountains and lonely winds. Makes me sad for him, he doesnt belong in the desert, beautiful and powerful though it may be.
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I'm going to remind everyone these images exist: >>530060888
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>>530063331
wish i was making it up.
https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/father-barred-from-calling-daughter-she/

>>530063346
>absolutely insane to me that people dont factor this aspect of human nature when talking about these sorts of things.
exactly. the founders perspective on this is why i respect your constitution etc above all other political documents. the assumption that people will always seek more power and that tyrants are inevitable is completely anathema up here. the revolution against the Crown was more than just a rejection of taxation, and its why this country is in many fundamental ways 180 degrees opposite to yours.
> Tons of people homeschool here.
its pretty big here, and there are enough people doing it that the general trend has actually been in favor of more freedom in this area.
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>>530063479
im not sure why you're incapable of having a rational discussion about this. ive spent quite some time reading about waco from all sides, including a lot of BD survivor interviews, both current members who think Howell was great and those who left at some point prior to the fire or even before the siege.
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>>530063479
Brother he isnt a glowie hes a homeschool dad in Canada who is just trying to be reasonable.

I share your utter fucking hatred of the alphabet bois and the ATF in particular, but non-americans dont generally understand how RR and Waco are like foundation myths for a lot of the modern 'actual' right-wing. Maga need not apply, sorry.
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>>530051197
Literally looks like a healthier and more sane enviroment than what 90% of kids grow up in
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who fucking cares
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>>530060780
AFAIK AVSTRIA has no forced vaccine mandate and home schooling can also be legal there.
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>>530052690
The problem was having an outhouse, those two anglos are professors, the rascals are fine, they just had to make an example of them because they didn't get their children indoctrinated even though they're not forced to, can't have goys thinking they can escape globohomo.
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>>530063679
I drove through Canada. I dont really understand the culture there. The online and news version is of course completely one-sided and not representative of Canadians, white Canadians particularly. But without living somewhere it is actually very difficult to understand the people there.

Most people arent terminally online schizos.

When Euros talk about America, for instance, its all just references to mainstream media or social media shit. They dont really have any idea what the broader american people are like, at all. And vice versa. I dont really understand Germans. I interact with them here and see some news. I have no idea what your average German male is really like on his home turf.

But im glad homeschooling is growing here, at least. Of course the state is trying to completely shut it down. Will never happen. Most people cant even get their kids to a school in any reasonable way.
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>>530057672
>really disagree with the idea that the state gets to define this for your kids. its just another intrusion.
It is what it is.
Back in the mid 800s parents here didn't send kids to school despite the state offering free education. Because it was more convenient to have your 6 years old help you in your shop or field or whatever.
So we had a groundbreaking law that basically punished parents that prevented children from getting literate. Everything we got now was built on top of that, it was so foundational we still talk about it.
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>>530064092
>The online and news version is of course completely one-sided
yeah, its a total state controlled media environment. a lot of people dont realize just how much of a monoculture it is here in that way. everything, every single radio station, paper, TV channel, its all the same on perspective, info sources etc. very little real journalism, just regurgitating press releases from the state etc. pretty much every source is on life support from government money every year too. theres no talk radio and no radio station can reach the whole country, only the CBC. when i drive in the US its always so refreshing to hear the different positions, the lively debate and call in shows from across the entire nation. its a very different thing that here. i always think its kind of like a strange 'its quiet....almost tooo quiet' scenario. a pretend calm.

>>530064092
>r instance, its all just references to mainstream media or social media shit.
yes, very much so. europe is bombarded with their socialist government antipathy towards the US constantly, same as up here.
>But im glad homeschooling is growing here,
it is. all the time, i think thats great. its becoming more and more normalized and we are winning more and more legal cases along the way.
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>>530063811
What kind of man would defend the people who took these photos: >>530060888
I don't need to have a "rational" discussion with you. Entertaining such foolishness will always be fruitless. You will see men proudly pose over the corpses of dead children and defend them while pretending to be rational. If this is the fruit of a rational mind, I'd rather be schizo.
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>>530064419
interesting. the thing with reading is that most kids can pick it up in a very short amount of time and be reading by themselves before you know it with even just a 20 minute lesson each day. the government stepping and brute forcing such rules just tells you what they are really all about
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>>530052688
>The children were educated at home by their mother using a Steiner-inspired unschooling method that prioritised creativity and natural learning over formal literacy and numeracy.
Based. Public education is dogshit.
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>>530050678
Can't scare me, wendigoposter.
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>>530064419
Right and there are some good arguments against mandatory mass literacy. Most of them are sort of esoteric but the idea that everyone simply "must have a formal education" is actually a lot less reasonable if you actually think about it on a level deeper than a puddle.

So I get that it "is the case" but thay doesnt mean it "should be".

For an easy example and a lazy one from me, go on any social media platform or comment section anywhere, at any time, or walk through and American Walmart. Then tell me if these people having:
>literacy
>the vote
>a voice in public matters
>a platform
Has actually had anything close to a positive effect on our civilization.

Im not saying one way or the other, my mind is rarely "made up" about most things. But its an interesting counter-argument to leftist "educationalism" types.
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>>530064697
Is america really the land of the free when the government can fuck you over like they did in waco or how they murdered the boeing whistle blowers?
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>>530064697
where did i defend them? can you show me? i explicitly mentioned deliberate malice. all i did was acknowledge that Howell was up to no good and made mistakes in dealing with a government he knew damn well was wanting to murder him and his followers. he refused to do the best for those families despite having many chances to do so. Of course nobody wants their friends and families and kids to be taken by the government, i get that trust me. but when you're staring down the barrel of a gun aimed at them all and you know the holder is just itching to shoot (and you've been preaching that those people want to kill you specifically with fire), then you do have some small responsibility when that happens because you could have avoided it quite easily.
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>>530064068
>those two anglos are professors
And yet for all their book learning in queer theory and palace intrigue of the 1650s, they didn’t have the know-how not to feed their kids poisonous mushrooms.
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>>530051879
They're retarded is the only explanation. A quick 5 min research reveals Italy is absolutely draconian regarding homeschooled/unvaxxed children.
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>>530065071
>and they didn't firebomb anyone. theres a chance the fucking tear gas (unbelievable they did that) aided the spreading of fires but theres also evidence that those fires were caused by heating lamps being knocked over by the tank turrets going through the walls etc.
>ATF then royally fucked up by coming on very very strong during their bungled raid, shooting started, and before you knew it the place was on fire and everyone died
You're also spreading their fake ass narrative. Fbi defends child rapists. They don't torch them. Fuck off glownigger retard.
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>>530049839
'it*ly' is a monstrous dysgenic hellhole. No surprise it attacks a beautiful white family that is offering its children a dreamlike childhood and demands only to be left alone.
That is not what this abomination of a state wants.
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>>530064587
Yes monoculture is a thing and to some degree, it is the case that our societies have become increasingly homogenized with the advent of global society.

That doesnt mean there are millions of people with their own local cultures and the like.

There is an interwsting concept about major cities, in that they actually share more culture with each other than their literal kin and surrounding people who support those same cities.

I know a guy in Denmark(internet friend) and he told me he has more in common with a New York Hispanic guy and a German from Berlin than he does with his own cousins from the 'sticks' of Denmark.

The globalist monoculture spreads out from cities. If you accept their infrastructure you are by default accepting their cultural exports to a degree.

There is a Trans kid in Talkeetna, AK that gets paraded around in Elsa dresses by his mother. Look up Talkeetna. Its remote, but connected to the system.

Its sort of fascinating, in a morbid way.
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>>530065366
Imagine being a judge and being able to separate a mother from her children for just not wanting to live in a filthy feminist multiracial globohomo society.
Are these creepy vermins even people or just soulless golems ?
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>>530065362
look, all i can see it what ive found looking at everything possible. i see no evidence of firebombing, possible presence of shooters around the building and a definite use of liquid fuel heating lamps once the power was cut off while there was a lot of liquid fuel stored there too. i absolutely hold the ATF responsible for what happened and have said so from the beginning here. im just not going to ignore the faults of the BDs under Howell.
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No Goyslop in their bowls? No Goymula in their bottles? No Goyducation in their brains nor Goyxxcination in their blood?

The penalty is institutional confinement for both parents delivery of their children to the nearest M*s*nic family registered for fostercare.
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>>530065400
>The globalist monoculture spreads out from cities. If you accept their infrastructure you are by default accepting their cultural exports to a degree.
>There is a Trans kid in Talkeetna, AK that gets paraded around in Elsa dresses by his mother. Look up Talkeetna. Its remote, but connected to the system.
>Its sort of fascinating, in a morbid way.
this is internet culture for sure and yeah it can obviously take hold anywhere. dont know about you but my kids dont have phones or any screens and no internet influence. i give them computer lessons where they learn basic it stuff but the idea that they should be exposed to the internet on their own devices is completely bizarre to me.
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>>530053989
>libertarian
>fuck homeschooling
Pick one, idiot. How can you call yourself a libertarian while shilling for public school. Room temp iq mongrel.
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>>530054083
Depending on the province. Ontario is the best province for it. Atlantic canada not so much.
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>>530065003
Boeing was a private wet work.
As for the Waco and Ruby ridge
They got the message that it was unacceptable when the building they planned both OPs out of was turned into rubble one morning
And during king nigger the glowniggers tried to play cattle rustler and they were politely told to fuck off at gun point.
They begged for their lives and ran, and didn't come back
No feds have tried anything whacky since
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>>530054309
We get it, you’re jewish.
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>>530066287
>Ontario is the best province for it.
im surprised you say that since its only slightly different than in terms of requesting permission or signalling intent to homeschool. last i heard BC is probably the easiest. im in NB and you have to subject a request to the education minster every year although in practice a lot of people dont bother and ive not heard of anyone ever being denied, unless some kind of gross criminality of treatment is already known about. lots of homeschoolers here.
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>>530049839
based, children belong to the state
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>>530066317
Okc bombing was a falseflag. That's why they brutal murdered Tarrence Yeakey.
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>>530054402
that would be bulldozed here, its just not up to code
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>>530065887
I bet those kids didn't even know about gender identity smdh, those nazis should never be allowed to see their children again
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>>530050678
Based Italians. Sick of these peasant brained hippies.
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>>530067417
unless you pay the mafia to build it for you
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>>530060437
the police showed up with like 7 cars, they went prepared for resistance
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>>530067575
yes, its how it works
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>>530067363
Maybe. Maybe not. That's actually a hard one to say either way. But Terrance death was arkancide for sure.
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>>530065890
Same. They have a strict selection of movies that they can watch on an old desktop with a tiny TV for a monitor. Thats it. No phones, tablets, or internet.

The oldest gets to use an old laptop we have for school projects and to look up baking recipes(she loves to bake) but never away from the living room and kitchen.

It is unbelievable to me how many parents let their kids have this stuff at 5-10 even. No supervision, no accountability. Its insane.

I dick around on /pol/ during the winter a bit but I dont play vidya anymore or watch movies very often. I do listen to podcasts or videos as I do things, perhaps not a great habit either.
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>>530067799
>but never away from the living room and kitchen.
I have no idea why this isn't standard operating procedures
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>>530051197
and so when the parents die, who takes care of these forest children? how do they reintegrate into society when all they know is the woods? there aren't enough forest people to sustain a healthy community. inbreeding would surely follow.

no, it's best to remove the children from this dangerous lifestyle.
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>>530067799
sounds good to me anon. we watch BBC nature docs sometimes. ive shown them old thomas tank engine episodes and just started showing them a few of those old TinTin cartoons because they got into the books from the library. im looking foward to when they are old enough for LOTR and enjoying the books. a few more years because i dont want to freak them out with the Orks and stuff lol
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>>530067863
a lot of parents are so tech illiterate that they don't comprehend what kind of heinous shit can be reached in only a handful of clicks, plus they are too trapped in the social media machine to see its numerous downsides
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>>530049839
Why is a negress singing the italian national anthem on TV?
LMAO
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>>530049839
>Australians in Italy
just kick them out,
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>>530049839
In Italy we say "colpirne uno per educarne cento". to hit someone to educate a hundred.
This whole thing is clearly political, possibly a psyop.
They don't want people to get out of the jewish system.
But I don't know a single person who believes the family did something wrong, they're all against the state so if it's a psyop it's not working very well and it's only making people more aware of the danger of the state, not that Italians have any faith in the state in the first place kek.
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>>530068225
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
RAUS RAUS RAUS
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>>530068451
good news!
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>>530050112
You fail to understand what the case is about here. The parents had violated one of the West's most sacred laws: enjoying a succulent Chinese meal.
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>>530050099
>literal gypsies
Literally not gypsies. The state cannot enforce child safety laws on gypsies because they are stateless, they're not citizens of Italy so they can't take away their children.
You are an imbecile who doesn't know what he's talking about.
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>>530068451
The strong do what they can, the weak do what they must. By this maxim it seems likely the whole world will be covered in north korea tier totalitarianism in the future. All we can hope for is that we are ruled by our fellow white christians, not jews or browns.
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>>530064924
Well we were a country of serfs and mandatory literacy made us the first fascist nation in less than two generations.
It has its perks
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>>530064924
For the average american, mandatory pushups and jogging would have improved their life a lot more than mandatory literacy.
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>>530050678
That judge deserves to be lynched.
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>>530067914
didn't get your (You) huh?
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>>530059420
Just translate any article, it's a big story in Italy, been for a few months.
They live in a rural place in a broken house they rebuilt. Don't remember how they ended up in Italy of all places. Only one of them is Australian I think. The mother used to work with horses, the guy used to sell wood in SEA. They're hippies.
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>>530065245
why does your country even exist. Well, I suppose with your 1.1 birthrate you wn't exist. But holy kek
>try to -not having your kids getting jewed-
>government says you must be jewed
What a dump
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>>530051119
No. It's just Statism at work. This is the result of making a god out of government. Supernaturally speaking, this is another day in the life of people who are subjugated by rebellious immortals.

Why would supernatural beings want humans to be schooled and vaccinated?
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>>530068062
My kids LOVE LOTR. The old cartoons too. They also love the old 7th Voyage of Sinbad and Jason and the Argonauts.

>>530067863
People are more than anything selfish and lazy, rather than malicious and cruel.
It explains normie behavior quite well to think of them as selfish, lazy people.
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>>530051491
>100% grains
Embarrassing. Never post again.
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>>530050889
>flag
oh the irony
when it comes to bongs and fecaloids, one thing is in common: their hygiene
hell, when i visited bongistan twenty years ago, the pub i visited had a wall-to-wall carpet in the bathroom (no joke)
disgusting
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>>530069171
>Jason and the Argonauts.
yeah, the old one with the funky animations and stuff? yeah i liked that one growing up. theres some decent older movies and cartoons around and its nice to watch them together. most new stuff seems hyperactive and full of bullshit.
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>>530065245
The trick is to send them to alternative schools like the Steiner one.
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>>530050889
t. person who goes around with an unwashed asshole
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>>530057479
>Isolation is not good for people
Looking at city folks, socialization ain't right either
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REMINDER SOUTH TIROL IS RIGHTFUL AUSTRALIAN CLAY
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>>530069405
damn italian are arabs lol
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>>530053225
>How are they even living in Italy then? Illegally?
you think italy gives a fuck at this point kek. i've had times where i landed in italy and they didn't even open my passport and border control. just flashed my italian passport and they waved me through. didn't even open it kek. they got an open border with africa. you think they care how many ethnic europeans go in and out?
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>>530069023
Punishment for WW2
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>>530049839
This is an incredible prologue for a wholesome blacked story.
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>>530069405
I went to Spain I went to the first restroom in a house and went
>Brah wtf is that thing? A foot wash?
They explained it too me and I had the Pikachu face, well I tried it and thought to myself
>Gottdang that's a good idea, clean as a whistle!
Now I want one but not a single residence in the states has one it seems
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>>530069405
Bidets ceased to be mandatory in Portugal in 2004.

Italy is the last bastion...
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>>530068699
>The strong do what they can, the weak do what they must
Never been true in italy, never will.
Italians don't care about what laws the government makes because at the end of the day they know they will just do as they please anyway. It's unfortunate because it means that you will never have a big public pushback against things.
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>>530069023
it's a cobbled-together country, even the language is artificial and had to be forced on people
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>>530050678
Due to strict "no contact policy" (to protect against diseases they have no resistance etc.), multiple people have been doing it since forever here in my country, and there are no problems.
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>>530052871
>leafy greens on the table
>fresh air
>no Mcdonalds or immigrants to stab and rob them

OH VEY, THIS IS ANTISEMITISM
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>>530049839
Italian GAMERRRRRRZ
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>>530054601
>how theyre evil and how they need to sacrifice their entire civilization and bloodline for niggers
They don't teach that in Italy.
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>>530052211
How did the abos cope? Presumably poultices for bites and stings and knowledge handed down. Plus they’re pretty skilled at slaughtering and hunting.
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>>530070918
They literally do nowadays.
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>>530070987
the critters die after biting abos.
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>>530052504
>Place looks rough, but clean and homely
Looking at the photos, the place is actually much better than what many people live in.
And I speak this as a favela dweller.
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there must be a away to decide upon re-entry on this plane to decide if one wants to subscribe to the system or not.
if they do not subscribe, they do not get a birth certificate, documents, social security, tax number, vaxines, school or any of that schmutz.
>inb4 santos
yea try that anywhere else than the cucked australia and see how it goes.

i really really dislike how ahrimanic forces (jews) subverted mankinds will/entropy for their own benefit and gain. luciferianic forces be maldin hard kek
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>>530071000
I'm 24. Unless the school system radically changed in the last 5 years since I last went to school, they don't teach that. Plenty of holocaust propaganda though.
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>>530052690
What happens when state schooled kids get retard scores then?
You never hear of teachers or their employers shown the door for not doing their job.
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>>530070391
the chinese have a similar disregard for the law as us, only that the areas in which they can afford to do whatever they want without the state cracking down on them are more limited. Our state is becoming stricter and stricter, we are slowly becoming like China except that our leaders aren't nearly as competent and organized
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>>530069787
>saar being clean it means youre arab saar
you're indian kek
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>>530071386
>What happens when state schooled kids get retard scores then?
increased government spending an taxes go up. the problem is ALWAYS too little spending and the answer is ALWAYS more money in government hands.
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>>530070918
WE DON'T TEACH THAT IN ITALY
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>>530071066
Huh, I guess there is some benefit to all that diesel and petrol consumption
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>>530050678
Kek
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>>530071615
lol
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>>530071526
The way it was explained to me about China and their system is that they basically are extremely lax on most things that aren't critical of the party, but then once in a while
>THE FORCE OF TEN THOUSAND SUNS DESCENDS UPON YOU!!!!!
and then back to a state of near apathy
That guy who explained it was from Hong Kong but would travel to the mainland frequently
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>>530071615
Kek, poor Germany
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>>530071350
All my young nephews and nieces are ultra woke. i work with uni students too, they're all woke.



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