Why does the right-wing hate being part of a collectivist culture so badly?Collectivism was literally how we lived and survived for hundreds of thousands of years.
>>530054762Because the right winger only cares about himself. They're selfish egoists who only follow their own light. That's why most of them will go to hell.
People that were closely related worked together???? Wtf im a commie now.
>>530054762if you love living in caves and getting eaten by tigers so much why do you live in a capitalist society?
>>530054762Socialists appropriated collectivism and turned it gay and retarded for faggots and niggers
>>530055102>why do you live in a capitalist society?Because there is no escaping it anymore.
So you want diversity but also want close knit community?How does that even work?
>>530054762The right wing does whatever their Wall Street funded think tanks tell them too That’s why
>>530054762The jewish lie is tha humans never worked together and lived off the land in harmony. They want to make you think that humans have always been at war. Lies. It wasn’t until those blood sucking goblins started hiding amongst us that so called enemies started propping up. B/c a jew never wanted to work and got mad when the didn’t get food for just existing.
>>530054762>Collectivism was literally how we lived and survived for hundreds of thousands of years.There was a leader in those groups.
>>530055215You are either a shill or programmed by Epstein and Bannon lol
>>530055215>So you want diversity but also want close knit community?You literally just work hard together for survival and not even give a fuck about race. As long as people work hard and contribute to the collective survival of the group, I don't give a fuck what color they are.
>>530055208Truth. It’s too late to begin. If you aren’t already decentralized then it’s over. Attempting to set up self sufficiency is enough to get you put on the ai hitlist for trying to be sustainable
>>530055392What happens when the group starts self segregation?
>>530054762One thing is communal living, the other thing are collectivist ideologies that are always a front for totalitarian dictatorships
>>530054762I refuse to collectivise with niggers or jews. I refuse to let foids and cowards claim any of my labor as theirs by right.
>>530055489>What happens when the group starts self segregation?Under the intense pressure of survival you have to depend on others. Thus cooperation is forced by nature.
>>530055392>You literally just work hard together for survival and not even give a fuck about race.confirmed never had to live with niggers.
>>530054762>right-wing hate being part of a collectivist culture so badly?only the zogged/mutt kind of right wing. nazi germany was a collectivist socialist state
>>530055355>>530055392BwhahahahahaCommunism doesnt work in diverse countries, collectivisionsm doesn't work in diverse countries. You have to choose unity or diversity. The human brain actively hates others that don't resemble it. This is natural and quite beautiful.
>muh collectivisimHas fuck-all to do with Left vs Right. In fact, most americans preaching about this shit can't answer what the origins of left and right even are.
>>530054762Divide and conquer. If you convince goym that caring for their fellow goy is gay commie shit they will cheer you on as you slaughter the ones standing in line before them
>>530055731>confirmed never had to live with niggersI have worked with niggers. When everyone is swinging a hammer for 8 hours or digging with a shovel, race doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is the ones that are slackers not pulling their own weight.
>>530054762Stop believing Jew fairy tales about primitive humans. Cultural anthropology is a bunch of hogwash. They just make shit up as they go to advance any given narrative. Whites have always been pastoral. Read the Rig Veda to understand what our people were like in their primitive state.
Only Americans are rugged individualists. Collectivism isn't even a propaganda talking point in the world.That being said it was COMMUNIST teachers who started to encourage our youth to become splintered into myriads of conflicting groups by indoctrinating them with pluralism.When will leftists understand that they're being played like a fiddle by evil outsiders who encourage rebellion and discord to weaken us from the inside?
>>530054762Families are natural collectivism, your version is brainwashing that has more in common with cults and diseases.
>>530054762Cuckservatives have always liked to pretend that they are counter-culture
>>530054762nice blanket statement
>>530055392you sound exactly like capitalists except you're not the one calling the shots
>>530055392the only group requested to not give a fuck about race are white people. race plays a major role in the decisions made by any other group
>>530056017>you sound exactly like capitalistsI am deeply commie/tankie. Stalin did nothing wrong.
>>530055881>worked not lived
>>530056118And in the end you're as materialist as are the neolibs and lolberts, your entire ideology is stuck in the late 1800s
>>530055881If you had worked side by side with niggers you and talked to them and coordinated your work eith them, sou would've noticed something is off.Did you actually work with niggers, or did you work with mulattos? Oh, and here's a funny thing about coworkers: they are all PRE-SCREENED by HR/management. They are not a random sample. Living in nigger neighbourhoods is not the same as working with niggers.
>>530054762>Why does the right-wing hate being part of a collectivist culture so badly?The far right loves it Fascism itself is a metaphor about how collectivism makes you strong
funny thing is that collectivism or something akin to that has been achieved outside the implementation of the ideology itself, it just happened naturally without any central planning or faggy manifestos. Look up the Incas as the prime example.
>>530055634Unironically this is the answerI’m not communing with religious people, minorities, or frankly anyone I don’t like.Collectivism is Disney morality
agree with the other guy. stalin did absolutely nothing wrong.also fuck nigger right-wing kikes. they are subhuman trash and of the lowest breed of dog
>>530054762they got brainwashed by individualism since they're selfish fucks, yet they cry for community and the nuclear family. hypocrites
collectivism manifests on the shabbos goy side of politics as civic nationalism, where the state tries to convince that everyone that holds citizenship is part of some greater whole despite ethnic or religious differences. Meanwhile ethnic nationalism doesn't care about the state first and foremost but the people.
>>530055687>Under the intense pressure of survival you have to depend on others. Thus cooperation is forced by nature.The issue with leftists is that they’re literally not intelligent enough to understand anything This guy just preaches his simple mental model of reality, all actual real life evolutionary dynamics just fly over his headYou couldn’t try to explain him how tribal is works in a Darwinian context because he literally is too dumb to understand what you’re talking about The evolution of ethnic tribalism and ethnocentrism is well understood as an extremely powerful an effective survival strategy that nearly all humans on earth have. But this dumbass is too stupid to understand Darwinian mechanics or study biology, evolution simulations or nature This is why I advocate for eugenism. No need to target leftists. Just get rid of all stupid people and left wingers will cease to exist
Funny thing is that most communist countries were really repressive toward ethnic minorities and even Marx was against nationalism and wanted to assimilate smaller ethnic groups into a greater mass so it would be easier to manage the people.
>>530054762Unga-bunga, bone-in-nose caveman not evolve. Unga-bunga, me think socialism good idea. Unga-bunga, what you mean man with big club eat while rest of us starve?Unga-bunga, why me now trapped in cave jail?Unga-bunga, me think we need do over; surely plan cannot fail again.
>>530055208You’re welcome to fuck off to your socialist utopia whenever you so choose. But you won’t because you’re a faggot so you’ll just keep bitching from the comfort of capitalism
>>530054762When wealthy people mention "collectivism," what they really mean is "feudalism."You ever notice how every commie thinks they're going to be the brains of the operation, sitting around drinking lattes and talking about theory? It's the poor people who have to fucking crack rocks and work on an assembly line.Everything they say is basically the opposite of what they mean. If they say they stand for the working class, it means they hate redneck poors and want them replaced with slaves. If they say they love equality, it means they want you working in a factory as a slave, but they want you happy about it.I could go on.I don't know if I would say communism is flatly evil as a concept. Concepts aren't inherently bad, and economic systems are fundamentally amoral. Money is inherently illogical, capitalism has its flaws, and as technology progresses I assume that we'll eventually move passed the need for money, if not soon, then in 1000 years. I don't think this consumer capitalist hellscape is the pinnacle of human civilization.But I will say, and this is a fucking fact, that only evil weasels support collectivism/communism right now. Every single country that ever tried it collapsed, and the only supporters it has out in the world are all just elitists who are obsessed with slavery. If communism isn't evil, the people who currently thirst after it certainly are.
>>530054762collectivism only works for small tribes
>>530056794are you fucking retarded? socialism is regulated capitalism. it's still capitalism. you don't even know your basics. you should slit for us. you're worthless, stupid fuck.
>>530056333czeched>>530055881other anons said it for me. I've worked with niggers before. They're loud and dumb and smell bad, but I can generally get along with them fine. Living with niggers is a fucking nightmare. Your house gets shot at, you have to be hyper aware at all times, show no fear as a on the bus at 11pm when a gang of niggers staggers on board smelling like whiskey or else you'll be mugged and beaten while the bus driver sits behind his cuck cage, drugs everywhere, car windows getting smashed. Niggers are incompatible with civilized living on a genetic level. I view any attempts to force their proximity upon me as a direct attack on my person.
>>530056951Capitalism is an economic model where private individuals can generate wealth by owning capital.Socialism is an economic model where private individuals CAN'T generate wealth by owning capital, but the public can.Socialization is accomplished by heavy regulation at the start, but heavy public regulation of private capital can be seen as a fusion of Capitalist and Socialist concepts. Actual Socialism is strictly a completely different thing.In a capitalist society you can open a laundromat and make money.In a socialist society, you can't open a laundromat, you petition the government to open a laundromat with the expectation that they'll pay you a wage to run it.
>>530057477>Capitalism is an economic model where private individuals can generate wealth by owning capitalCapitalism is ultimately just an excuse to be absurdly selfish and greedy. That's it. There is no more magic to it.Any system has the potential to be sustainable and effective as long as the the hard work underpinning it all gets done.I am far more motivated to work under the ideology of the greater good in communism that I am for the selfish and greedy motives of capitalism.
>>530058838>Capitalism is ultimately just an excuse to be absurdly selfish and greedy. That's it. There is no more magic to it.brain dead take of a lazy soft hands faggot>I am far more motivated to work under the ideology of the greater good in communism yeah you'll be motivated when you're chained to the assembly line. How anyone can have even cursory knowledge of the last 70 years and still think communism is the answer to degenerate, late stage consumerism is beyond me.
>>530058838Let me guess, in your communism, you'll drink lattes and discuss theory.All the work will get done by...?Oh, yeah, borderline enslaved people. I'd call them the dirty poors, but under communism poverty only exists in the spirit. Some will toil in the factories forever just because they deserve to, but its people like you who will just lazily chill out and reap all the rewards.Every communist is just a wannabe capitalist vampire wearing a skinsuit. You want all the same shit the Monopoly men want, you're just not able to win at their game so you want to accomplish the same goals by flipping their game over and enslaving everyone according to a new set of preferences you'll get to sit on top of.This is why commies are scumbags.
>>530054762>muh left vs rightTourists need to go back, (you) are certainly familiar with reimmagration...for the collective
>>530060166>Let me guess, in your communism, you'll drink lattes and discuss theory.I will pick fucking potatoes, shovel shit, pound rocks with a hammer, or plow fields by hand. I don't give a fuck what I do, as long as it is not under capitalism.
>>530061305Listen, you're full of shit. Nobody believes you for even a second. It's remarkable that you're not embarrassed to say such stupid bullshit.>Actually, I'm totally willing to work hard, j-just not r-right now...You'd pick potatoes for all of 10 minutes before you became a sweaty little piggy and waddled home. Then you'd be straight back to masturbating, video games, eating McDonalds, all the shit you do now, except under communism your faggy lifestyle would rapidly become impossible because now you just expect all the poor people to keep working for literally nothing instead of almost nothing.
>>530061674>Nobody believes you for even a secondWhy is it so hard to believe that I don't want greedy kike shareholders and landlords to profit off my labor while they di nothing but leech off the working class? It's not even difficult concept to grasp.
>>530062172All you're really saying is that you're too full of impotent resentment to participate in society.You're telling me and yourself this would all change so long as you lived in a land of milk and honey.If you're really such a weakling faggot that you can't motivate yourself to do anything unless you literally live in a heavenly paradise, then you'll never do shit. Ever. You do not have the work ethic to do anything or help anyone.The shit you're saying is transparent as hell. You're just a lazy, pissed off faggot.That's all you are. You'd still be the same lazy, pissed off faggot under a different system.
>>530054762What's mine is mine and what's yours is ours. That's how collectivism worked back then, how it works in practice now, and how all of its advocates who aren't complete dupes intend for it to work. The whole individualism/private property concept is designed to clearly describe ownership in order to prevent that and allow people to actually cooperate on equap terms. It has never been about preventing cooperation and doing everything alone. The only time that becomes necessary is when collectivists gain so much power that you have to abandon society to escape them (which is most of the time in practice, unfortunately).
>>530054762>Why does the right-wing hate being part of a collectivist culture so badly?why do retards ask questions that are wrong to begin with?
>>530054762The best collectivism is where everyone universally bears their burden.
>>530055301all the nutrition that was supposed to go to your brain must have went to your mustache instead. 1) Socialism can and does have leaders2) Decentralized systems, despite harder to design, are proven effect at solving a variety of problems
>>530055255this but for all sidesthere's probably less than 100 independent thinkers out there>inb4 *incoherent gibberish*relax faggot, I'm a mental thrall as well
>>530062875Please, describe how OP is wrong if you can
>>530062608>All you're really saying is that you're too full of impotent resentment to participate in society.I am not a slave anon. My life does not exist to wage cuck for 60 years straight on a barely survivable salary just so Noseberg shareholders and landlords csn get rich off my labor. That's not resentment. That's just honest common sense to not bow my head to being a slave.
>>530063088right wingers are not individualiststhey are partisan narcissists occasionally orbiting a grifter demogogue>what (((my group))) does is good whether it be genocide, rape, exploitation while you are evilthey're basically talmudic
>>530064000Right-wingers just need to completely go away. The entire would would be better off without them. There would literally be no downsides.
"Let me tell you about your own self-interests and how it involves me."
>>530063088I should cost about 6 fish per day I'm alive
>>530064216Left-wingers just need to completely go away. The entire would would be better off without them. There would literally be no downsides.
>>530054762because they are selfish and dont give a shit about other people
>>530065550Leftyism can survive completely without right-wing at all. It already has proven so. Hunter gatherer societies account for by far the longest period of human existence. It was communal life dedicated to group survival.
>>530054762Those times which top man fucked all the women and told the lesser man often their sons to serve or fuck off?
>>530066476>Those times which top man fucked all the women and told the lesser man often their sons to serve or fuck off?Fucking right-wingers. Always boiling it down to hierarchies because they believe it creates "order" and "safety." I have a family, and it is not a strict hierarchy. I fulfill my role in my family, but I don't seek to dominate anyone and there is peace, harmony, and cohesion that way.
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>>530067088You don't have a family man you are on 4chan you tard.
>>530054762I don't. We're social beings who rely on each other to survive. Individualism is nonsense, and it'll have us killed as we can't even reproduce asexually so it's just gonna be a very lonely and painful death.
>>530067221You cannot even build a cogent argument against it because it is true. Right-wingers are fundamentally selfish, narcissistic, greedy assholes. They would collapse all of civilization if it earned them a single extra penny. They deserve all of the hatred and scorn they get directed towards themselves.
>>530054762>Collectivism was literally how we lived and survived for hundreds of thousands of years.>13 post by this IDAlright then. Because it doesn't scale past the size of a commune, anon. Communism is good for families and farms, okay for farming communities, and horrifically bad for anything larger or more complicated than that. My proof for and against is all politics since 1792.
>>530054762>collectivistDepends on what you mean. A Marxist internationalist Jewry collective? Absolutely not. A national socialist collective? Yes. >right-wingAre you mistaking liberals like the republican party for right wingers again?
>>530056760>no green arrowSo then this isn't what you think OP says, this is just you unironically.
>>530067332I have a mom, 2 younger brothers, and a old dad. I am the oldest brother, but I don't dominate or force some stupid fucking hierarchy on anyone in my family. I fulfill the role that has been decided for me. Usually lifting heavy shit for my family because I am thr biggest. Fixing shit because I am good at it, and generally caring for my twi younger brothers.
>>530067503sorry his pic wrecks you so bad and proves your opinion wrong and stupid
>>530055102>you live in a capitalist societyin what way?
>>530054762>Why does the...You know only about yourself about others you just made up lie ..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2diwMWzpTa8&pp=0gcJCa4KAYcqIYzvNo pol flag on pol, why? chat operators jew shills
>>530054762Are you pretending to be retarded or do you think ancient city states in Greece were left-wing?This is why no one takes leftists seriously.
>>530054762Most of prehistory was closer to what distributist is now than outright collectivist.
>>530067784No you don't you are anon on 4chan you post random shit. This is what you believe in.
>>530054762>>530054895Freedom of association is a particular kind of collectivism. I would like to be in a collective with like minded white people and a handful of chinks or other elevated Browns. I do not want to be in a collective with faggots, niggers and childless feminists. Does that explain it succinctly, pumpkin?
>>530056424Why are there so many of this same dumb response? It’s weird
>>530054762Kek.> Leftist: "Why does the right-wing hate collectivism?"> Sees swastika and fasces.> Leftist: You're all a bunch of Fascists! Why can you be individuals?
>>530054895Nice try, Moishe.>> 530068912
>>530068632Too many direction brains that are genuinely too low IQ to physically compute in their brains that white men want a collective of whites only individualism where the people(white men) are in charge of society
>>530063997So, you'll just do nothing except NEET and be a fatass.I'll agree with you on one thing: I also hate capitalist vampires. Slaving away at Wal-Mart or some shit IS a nightmare existence.However, there's more to the world than just capitalist vampires. There are ways to participate in your society that doesn't include working for capitalists. You could be a police officer. Police precincts are socialized. You could do social work, and actually help people. You could try and become a lawyer and do a lot of pro-bono work helping people who can't help themselves overcome the system. You're just one man. The capitalist vampires don't feel the loss of your labor. You're spiting yourself because you're living a fruitless, worthless life. And you're spiting the people your labor and effort could be helping.And why?This bullshit about how you're heroically defying capitalism is all just a faggy lie you tell yourself. You're just too fucking lazy and selfish to participate, you're enraged and fucking petty, but you're soothing yourself be mumbling shit about how you'd actually TOTALLY be willing to work for yourself and others if it weren't for greedy capitalists... You hear yourself talk?You sound like a fucking fool. I don't even think you believe this shit.You're lazy. You're pissed off. You're making up some elaborate fantasy about how you're actually a good participant in society--despite there being no evidence of that, period--and you're just not doing shit because you hate le evil capitalists.You're a delusional fucking idiot.Grow the fuck up. If you're just going to be a lazy faggot, go ahead, be a lazy, worthless faggot. But don't sit there and pretend to be some holy martyr over it. You're acting like a fucking retard.
>>530054762if you haven't notice after being on this board and being aware of reality, right-wing mindset people are fucking retarded.
Because leftists don't actually read Marx where he explains that collectivist worship is regressive to a lower mode of production.
>>530054762Because it fails somewhere around 200 members. And I dont want to live like a monkey or cave man anyways.
>>530055392But people wont work together well if they are not linked anon. The strong link is blood. The niggers are going to rob and stab you.
>>530056118You are laying out the capitalist plan though. Diversity is brought in to brake unity. To stop collective action.
