How much of history is fake given how much propaganda we see daily today?
>>530057932Spartacus was ass
>>530057932probably all of it, i don't believe brits conquerered the world at all. there is no fucking way we did all that then cried on our knees because of people on fucking dingies kek, there is just no fucking way.Also>Torture devices from medeval times 90% fake>Moon landing faked>UK being conquers fake>Slave trade -> jewish psy op>Hitler le bad guy -> fake.
>>530057932I don't want to see another wild-eyed jew on a screen.
Schizo shit like "the Middle Ages never happened", no, but contrived narrative framings to justify contemporary ideological imperatives, yes
>>530057932>How much of history is fake given how much propaganda we see daily today?I'd say the events are real, the details of said events are mostly bullshit.I mean governments blatantly lie about shit as it's happening, of course they're going to lie about shit in the past.
>>530058156>but contrived narrative framings to justify contemporary ideological imperativesTHIS
Herodotus prove 80% history "rule of cool" 20% propaganda writ by so-called winner. The field of History has made marginal improvements in accuracy since.
a lot... take radio carbon dating...most people believe it.I used to.Then I heard what it was.See they discovered in the 60s that carbon 14 disolved at a certain rate and they figure the half life is knowable so they can calculate how old something is.The problem is it relies on massive assumptions. If the half life is 5000+ years you're not observing that, especially if you didn't discover it until the 1960s.Total scam.
Did you guys see the new spartacus flick. It got rid of jews.The gays used jews to get to power (they hid behind jews all the time)And then they came out of the woodworks.No jews in the new spartacus
>>530058088Your small-mindedness is really quite sad
The old spartacus had jews. The new spartacus has mamdani and sadiq khan.Kill all fucking faggots
>>530058012No, *I* am Spartacus!
The same gay people who flooded the west with vibrants and set them against white people.Are the same gay people who set the white people in the Ukraine against the Mongoloids.Gay people are evil and they need to be killed.
>>530058269what are you denying exactly?
>>530057932All of it
>>530057932History books get gradually more believable over the ages, as politics are gradually pulled away from religion, and as historians discard the mythical bullshit of older texts. Yes, there will be opportunistic money seekers that make books that claim that Trump was sent by God to free Israel from Iran's oppression, but over time everyone will recognize that Trump was trying to distract from Epstein and Netanyahu was always paranoid about neighboring nations having any weapon better than a pointy stick.
>>530057932Basically everything about civil rights being applying globally is a psyop and many third and second world countries completely reinvented their national origin mythos in the 20th century probably to pretend like they have history and culture in order for them to even operate on the global playing field
Tartaria thread?
>>530059610no, Tartaria is just schizo shit.>>530057932Probably a decent amount. I think most of the pedo shit attributed to Greeks/Romans is fake news, as the majority of ancient history scholars that wrote about those countries just happen to be jewish
>>530057932The only thing true about history is that all of history is not true
>>530059762>no, Tartaria is just schizo shit.For the most part, yeah. The mud flood reset(s) is pretty believable.
>>530057932I don't think "alexander the great" ever existed or that a macedonian ever conquered anything more than a few farms.
>>530057932Probably a lot more than one might think.
>>530058088>brits didnt conquer the world because I am totally pathetic so of course they couldn't XDDD actual mental illness
>>530057932When you read serious academic history books you'll understand that most of what we know of history is actually just an academic's interpretation of primary fonts that may or may not reflect reality. To give you a few examples:>Our common understanding of Rome and antiquity in general stems from renaiscene writers trying paint as this lost period that was better than the middle ages>Most the history of countries in the modern era (here i'm taking: post-fall of constantinople, pre-french revolution as reference for "modern") was written by positivists and nationalists trying to shape the very idea of that nation>All of history was revisited by materialists (aka. Marxists) in the XX century and that's why we all think of economic reasons for everyhing and we have bs like "actually, the church was most likelly trying to sack the wealth of the jews so they were turned into the scapegoat in this blood libel episode (also all others lol)"There's also pop history which is even more trash and disingenous than academic historiography. So, yea, all of history is fake to some degree.
>>530057932Probably most of it. History is probably full of skinny heroes instead of the ripped, steroid bodies the statues reflect. Food was more scarce, more walking, fewer supplements. The only thing accurate on them is the tiny wiener.
>>530060351>Most the history of countries in the modern era (here i'm taking: post-fall of constantinople, pre-french revolution as reference for "modern") was written by socialistsFrfy
>>530057932its all a bunch of stories the majority agreed on. countries try to make their stuff sound better than it was. only way to know for sure is with a time machine. your mind forgets things and changes the little details of a story so much over time that you can ship of Theseus a memory into something else. you can create false memories. hard to tell what memories are real. and then there is perception, every person views reality slightly different and each event differs depending on which witness you ask.
>>530060546Phucking phone
>>530058088>Torture devices from medeval times 90% fakeThey were literally commissioned by the Catholic Church for extracting confessions, and the Inquisitions invented the most devices that were the most creative and painful>Moon landing fakedNo one with an IQ north of 40 falls for this or the flat Earth gibberish.>UK being conquers fakeHave you ever pondered why so many countries speak English and drive on the wrong side of the road? Seems not.>>Hitler le bad guy -> fake.While he should get the NATO medal of honor of killing so many millions of Russians, he was indeed bad for invading and occupying foreign countries like the Russian Nazis are doing today.
>>530059868Based
Napoléon told us history was fake and people still worship him
>>530060913How come every French guy was a douchebag
>>530057932Basically all of it. History is a victor's jaundiced account and then rewritten constantly. Emmett Till was definitely the same as the dindu bullshit you see today, and it just gets worse the further back you go.
>>530057932Everything Jewish is fake.
>>530058088Moon landing was real, all the top NASA scientists were genius germans. They had to put a plug on it though because it conflicts and contradicts with the batshit crazy death cult they are apart of.
>>530060777I have an IQ of 41 and I believe it.
>>530057932fake is the wrong term, filtered or slanted might be more accurate. All of history is basically marketing, and you need to keep that in mind when reading it. The author's bias, his school of thought, his historical method, etc, all contribute to a slant.
>>530060056well thats retarded, every culture he came across mentions him. We know he existed because he's talked about by everyone. Cross cultural references in primary sources are a thing, you should stop being a retard.
>>530057932Why did the jew known for heading the Illuminati, Adam Weishaupt, choose Spartacus as his secret code name? Because jews were behind the slave revolt Spartacus supposedly lead?
>>530057932Yeah I've learned to never trust humans now, at all... our modern world is showing us how easily, quickly and absolutely a human will lie to you about an event.... even when it's recorded and documented. 2020 was the height of that. Extrapolating backwards here, that means humans have been bullshitting like this for all of history so we really don't know what was real or just absolute garbage they lied about to push a narrative or agenda. This haunts me every day now.I can't trust anything.
>>530057932most history is simply unknown, stories will be created to cope with the uncertainty
>>530057932They didn't have flat tops in ancient Rome for example
Columbus' sailors were worried about sailing off of the edge of the Earth!
>>530057932It wasn't 6 millions...
>>53005793267.4% of history is inaccurate propaganda.
>>530057932The claims that Europeans in cities lived like animals, emptying their chamber pots out the window and the nobility just pissing and shitting in random corners of the royal palaces are probably jewish projection because they were still living like that in mid-20th century. "We are the chosen people and goyim are animals so they must also have been living like we do now!"
>>530060546A lot was written before socialism was even a thint, they were first written in the mid XIX century and early XX century and then revisited by the marxists in the mid XX century onwards. If you only had access to the latter that's your problem
>>530060777>he was indeed bad for invading and occupying foreign countries like the Russian Nazis are doing today.Hitler didn’t bring 6 million niggers to Paris
>>530062756Positivism was created by a primordial socialist what are you on about
all of itconsciousness only started around 2004thats about how old the universe is
>>530057932so much it fucked with the natural flow of progress of humanity. on a larger scale it's unimportant whether our era was based on so much bullshit and living multiple lies
>>530057932Funny how you put the name-changing jew as the pic for this thread, deliberate?
>>530060777Thanks for the post moshe! Ka-ching
They didn't have flat tops IN ANCIENT ROME!!
>>530058369No, this is Patrick!
>>530057932Jews really love Spartacus for some odd reason. Having Denzel be Hannibal makes a crushing blow to the memory of Rome, to make it seem a black man almost destroyed Rome. Never let jews control culture and history
>>530058012It was.Literally just that one scene was any good, the rest of it was homo-faggotry.>>530058088Medieval "torture devices" were really just medical devices. "Thumb screws" for setting broken fingers, "Racks" for setting bones. All fetishized over by Jews like Epstein and his dentist chairs.
>>530058262By jupiters cock it was splendid.
>>530057932People are trying to rewrite history to cover up how they are doing historically bad things today.
>>530057932Almost all of it, and everything else was erased.
>>530060777>literally commissioned by the Catholic Church for extracting confessionst. A Jew.That's not how it worked.Catholics don't fear Confession the way Jews do.
>>530058088>i don't believe brits conquerered the world at allthen why was my great grandfather seething about the englishman even on his deathbed
>>530058088I can smell your stupid from here.
>>530057932Looks like Spartacus skipped leg day
>>530058088Bongs are really one of the most hardy people on Earth, easily the most hardy out of Western Europe. Bongs have also been behind most modern technological developments, and set the standard for the modern political model as well as modern literature. We are a people who are capable of extreme violence as well as extreme introspection. You shouldn't discredit the people of your great-grandfather just because you're bitter at the fact you're mixed-race.
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>>530060777Reddit spacing really fits the content of this post.
>>530057932ironically, kirk douglas was a belarusian jew
>>530058156>Schizo shit like "the Middle Ages never happened"Depends because literally the entirety of what we're told about the middle ages is a complete lie and never happened.>Bro people just worked all day>And they didn't eat out or travel>And they all died when they were young>And everyone was dirty stinky poopyEct ect, all just a giant web of lies made to make our ancestors looks retarded when the reality is they were just as smart as us, if not smarter.>>530058231>80% rule of cool 20% propagandaYup, people wouldn't waste resources writing down every-day interactions and then preserving said writings in climate controlled buildings for 100's of years while doing necessary maintenance and recording of said old records, it just didn't happen.
>>530057932No idea and I don't want to think too deeply about it.I have not much problem with the history of things, but I'd like to preserve the reality of things of the nowadays.So "liberalist" ideology will never have a chance to grasp hold again, because people will hopefully learn from the absolute bullshit the "liberalists" are pulling on the world.The people want FREEDOM, NOT LIBERALISM.
>>530058088>>Torture devices from medeval times 90% fakeWhat makes them fake?
>>530063761The movie was based on a novel written by a Jewish communist Howard Fast
>>530063939If it's like 200 years old it doesn't even have to be erased, natural decay takes it.>Need controlled conditions for writing to last a long time>Their parchment / papyrus / whatever didn't stand up like modern materials, and their ink fades and blottts out>Basically all old documents have to be recorded using large amounts of time and expensive materials and specialized skill, then they have to be re-recorded multiple times to make it to our time This is why we have proportionally a lot of "scrolls" and shit coming from the middle east, dry climates where it's easier to control the humidity and temperature swings. And most writings from the past were saved from the church because they were the only group with the time and resources and drive to spend all of that effort just recording things for the future that were seemingly useless in their time, none of that's free or easy.
>>530064503The middle ages happened but the dark ages never did. Just a term made up by Rome-cuck academics to prop up Rome as the be-all-end-all of civilisation. The so-called dark ages were some of the most enlightening periods in history.
>>530064503>Ect ect, all just a giant web of lies made to make our ancestors looks retarded when the reality is they were just as smart as us, if not smarter.The most of this bullshit was written by enemies of Christian Europe: by "researchers" Ottoman funded by Ottomans in Renaissance, by anti- Catholic movements, from Anglos to German protestants, and finally by anti- everything French revolutionaries in XVIII century. Communists are just a minor recent addition, an icing on the cake.
>>530064077bongs are also the best shabbos goys, yessir
>>530064681They were constructed later for propaganda purposes, just like French pervs came up with idea of "chastity belts" that were supposedly forced on women.Tortures in medieval times were crude, focused mostly on breaking bones and inflicting minor but painful wounds. No fancy toys from wet dreams of a kike.
>>530060039>mud flood resetThere was never fucking mud flood. What happened was major earth works projects in major cities to flatten and level them. People forgot about them when they finished and moved on.Only schizo retards who can't take time to read old newspaper believe it.
>>530057932The broad strokes are true, but I would be surprised if even 10% of specific history taught is real.
>>530057932Everything is a lie to fit the narrative of tomorrow.The good guys won all the wars naturally.If the news is fake, imagine how bad history is!
>>530062801Well who did and why is your sister's name "Paris"?
>>530057932Most of it is entirely fake. Ever since the christians took over it's basically been one giant shitshow. And now the race is going extinct forever. Such a loss..
>>530063993These were not confessions of garden variety sins. They were confessions of thought crimes like heresy, blasphemy, apostasy, atheism, sorcery, etc. so the torturers could justify the maiming, torture and death they were inflicting on the victims.
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>>530058235Same kind of thing with neutrinos. Can't see them, they interact with nothing, but there everywhere all the time! How do they know? With this special sensor at the bottom of the sea!Anything that requires special instruments operated by special boys is immediately suspect to me.>>530059610My issue with tartaria is the fire narratives. How do giant solid marble buildings burn down from a lamp falling over. More likely it is marble facade and under it is shitty wood framing like everything else.>>530066298Look at this paper reading good boy.
>>530060777The inquisition is the most overblown shit ever. People asked to get turned over to them rather than get dealt with vy the secular authority because they were a softer touch
>>530065465The torture devices were made of iron so a lot of them are still around. Thousands of them in France and England and Spain from 500-1500 CE. Denial is wilful ignorance.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Medieval_instruments_of_torture
>>530057932About 10% of it is created from 0About 40% is embelishedAbout 40% is real but some details get omitted due to antisemetismAbout 10% is real and presented as is
>>530068951Your Anglican religion is based on the morals of King Henry VIII. I guess continental torture machines pale in comparison to what you're accustomed to.
>>530060777>said the Moon landing was fake>DID SOMEONE SAY FLAT EARTH?!what an odd response.
>>530057932Likely everything you've hear about Uncle Adolf from the mainstream sources is wrong.
>>530064762Most people writing down events were actually the ancient equivilant of 4chan users talking shit
>>530057932All of it. And I think people knew that in the past. They knew is was just lessons or parables. We psyoped ourselves into thinking it was real with the enlightenment.
>>530057932Alot of history is fake but people aren't interested in the truth. They only believe what they want to be true.
>>530062156Nobles had proper ways to dispose of waste but cities were absolutely disgusting as recently as just before cars became standard. Big cities I mean. London, Paris and New York were infamously horrible.
>>530057932unironically probably all of it. like white people have probably been living in america for 1000s of years.
>>530057932What are the chances that the good guys won every war?
>>530058088>probably all of it, i don't believe brits conquerered the world at allIt was mostly diplomatic agreements made on a quid pro quo basis. We went there and negotiated with their leaders for deals and cut them in on a share of the profits. There was very little warfare going on whatsoever. Neighbouring tribes saw what was happening and wanted in on the deal.Quite literally the opposite of what American retards do, but it bankrupted us in the same way.
>>5300579321/3 of men and 90% of women here think WW2 started in 1941I swear
>>530057932Of course it's fake, it's Hollywood. No one wanted to see the Experience they wanted the "EXPERIENCE" with action, drama, feeling. Not how it ACTUALLY went down. From Spartacus to Green Book, always leaving out real details. Like those documentaries about "Black Heroes vs White Villains" crap Civil Rights people preach. Like In Green Book, they tried to say the nigger was gay but in real life his family says that bullshit and that never happened. Like how they also praise MLKJr as a holy righteous man yet he hated gays let alone the "Motel Tape" a tape that even made fucking Hoover himself, shiver with dread.
