How do you see this war realistically ending?
>>530091463Either with the US backing out and losing a lot strategically or a full on ground invasion
In 2045, after building the Third Temple and sacrificing 6 million american conscripts.
>>530091463Goodbye jews!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGbeM3079o
>>53009146330% israel in rubble, and us going home with its mouth beaten30% us wins after a grueling war of attrition30% teheran rolls over OR has an internal coup10% wtf happenings i think nobody can predictalso whats up with the moloch?
>>530091463I just want both teams in the middle east to thoroughly enjoy themselves. it's better for the world thoughbeit
>>530091585Nigga we can’t afford to do anything but quit. Oil price gets high enough we Great Recession niggas.
>>530091463We nuke London.It's over.
Ending?
>>530091463This war is intrinsically tied to the US's forced cold war with china and the US will not win the cold war with china. So we will keep pushing and pushing until China is forced to attack us. Expect things to escalate even further when the US dollar busts and AI crashes the market.
>>530091463Probably with Total Migger Death
>>530091463>endingending? wdym?
>>530091463Total defeat of the fascist Mullah regime.
>>530091463>gets too expensive for grifter trump>he send few 'special op' on ground >he announces US won>"we hit them hard, they can't recover, they have no missiles or boats, we took nuclear, muh america great, muh iranans should protest but we are out">1 year later: THEY HAVE NOOOOKS!!!
>>530091955that sounded flamboyantly gay, ngl
>>530091463For now, little is known about what's actually happening. Both sides are lying, but Prof. Jiang (It doesn't matter that he's a Chinese agent), but he presented it relatively objectively.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIS2eB-rGv0
Iran finally bombing those kikes and the US using its full force, forcing Russia and China to intervene
>>530092048>he announces US wonyeah i heard something to the tune of him saying that he will consider inconditional surrender when iran cannot hurt us results anymoreso hes already preparing a way outthe iranian regime still can collapse thoughyou never knowwe dont have reliable information from either sideand the pentagon themselves said the war is gonna last, and theres not even boots on the ground etc etc+ fog of war+ wartime propagandaits too soon to call it. time will tell
>>530091463>gas prices doubled>food prices tripled >real estate prices quadrupled >20.000.000+ refugees headed to EuropeThe rest doesn't really matter that much.
>>530092311Maybe.
>>530092168The fuck is game theory. Is he a CNC gaymer?
>>530092168>>530089310be aware of buttthurt belt et al and alike
>>530093423For what? He just says what's already been said.
>>530091750If you don't take out Iran and Venezuela, you can kiss the petrodollar bye-bye, and your entire financial system collapses.The debt burden is there, but yeah, it won't matter if the chinks manage to court half the world with YEN anyway.The plan is to make everyone blame israel for the egregious actions that are about to take place. Iran will become libya 2.0 and there aint shit the chinks or the russians can do about it
>>530093260Game theory is a branch of psychology on decision making. Prisoners dilemma, etc. It came into prominence during the cold War, due to MAD, as a way of preventing nuclear war.
>>530091463Yahweh tonguing my anus
>>530091463
>>530092650Seems to me that it's going to be a bigger migrant crisis than what we had in 2015 now that every country
>>530091463The second coming of Christ.
>>530092650>>530096466The big difference being that most iranians are actually well educated, sophisticated, atheist and they do not look like lovecraftian subhumans
Prolonged conflict: 99%Ground component creep: 85–95% (up; full destruction requires it).Full occupation attempt: 48–58% base (80–95% on mass-casualty trigger).Clean/quick wrap: <1%.Global financial crisis event: 35–55%.Nuclear weapon use: 5–15% (low; rises to 20–30% if ground fails and WMD escalation).
>>530092168Professor Chang is a professor in Engrish
>>530096861Doesn't matter, they don't belong here. They could be 20 million high IQ cute Asian girls for what it's worth, they will still have to go back (after having saxo with me).
>>530091750>Great Recessioni don't think trump cares
When China gives their final warning
>>530095939100% agree with everything there.I suspect China will be very hesitant to act because they aren't completely retarded, but would not be surprised if their hand was ultimately forced by the US cutting off their oil.People are also really underestimating (or just not discussing) how royally fucked the EU is.Trump's a moron, but he's right with the EU: they have leaned on the US for security but are unwilling to offer up any concessions for this. This year already started with the EU having a trillion dollar problem of building a functioning military. Now they might be pressured to expend resources they don't have to protect the energy they need.Best case scenario now is pretty much China sticks to the "do nothing win" strategy, Russia just quietly supplies and supports Iran and while the US continually fucks itself to death.The biggest risk is that nothing about this is unfuckable. If/when the US stock market collapses, as an example, stopping the war then won't magically fix that.
Effective so far. If it remains so it will end soon. If others join in against the US, 20 years and everything changes. If the US gets it's licks in and gets out, little dust up here and there. Problem is these people have lived under this for 50y it's not like they can just run shit after such oppression. An odd thing, the US govt let anyone walk in here unabated for years on purpose. Perhaps the reason for that will reveal itself soon. No govt acts like that and every Western govt was in on it. It wasn't humanitarian because if it's own people are living on sidewalks that reason makes zero sense. Don't honestly think anything will return to any aspect of normal any time soon and this is the tip the beginning. WW3 is less of a concern than what is intended with the ones showing up all over the West. Are we to become the oppressed and the dead. Only time will tell. It's not about religion of anyone it is totally about a mindset of eradicate those that are not them and the West putting out the welcome mat. What happens, we lose on purpose now. Who knows.
Russia is already helping Iran with targeting American assets. This will lead to Trump's pettiness allowing and assisting Ukraine in targeting high-value sites in Russia. Russia will retaliate by invading Poland. Once NATO and Russia are at war, Russia and it's allies will send troops to Iran to fight America and Israel there.So, WWIII has already begun.
>>530097877Please. You are doing this because iran trades their oil for yuan and israel is a scapegoat for Americans bombing sandpeople into submission to ensure the major oil markets remain dollar denominated.You got no plans for regime change lmaoYou intend to bomb the living shit out of Iran until it become Libya 2.0Democracy lmao tf are you smoking
>>530091463The US wants to change the government, but they cannot put another jew shah, they just want to submit their arrogant Persian lion.I see that after a not short missile exchange up to 1-2 months, when Iran is exhausted and the pressure from the world rises, the US and Iran will make a deal in favor of the US, but nothing big will change. This is not really about changing the regime or security, it's just the US asserting dominance over Iran who leaned to the east powers more and more in the last years.The "Islamic" revolution was and is backed by U.S & Co. And it won't go.>>530096861You only get faggots in Berlin, karl.>>530098088It really gets down to this. Modern politicians are just businessmen using tax dollars to fill their pockets. Americans can fuck themselves while they bomb some middle-easterns so trump and his jew friends can buy another island and fill it with trafficked kids.
>>530092354The Belgian gets it.I generally agree with your earlier opinion:>5% chance that this ends up a total strategic success for the United States and we get all our war aims>25% chance that the strain breaks the Islamic Republic enough that someone comes to the table, America shakes hands, Israel remains kvetching surely and will try to shill for another war every year to 'finish the job'>30% chance the strain is too much for the US, we unilaterally declare victory and then bail - same postwar outcomes but a bit more embarrassing for the US and Trump (still preferable to an invasion)>15% Chance Iran breaks down into warring factions like Libya or Syria and the whole region becomes a massive clusterfuck to everyone's detriment>15% chance this turns into a miserable forever war that results in eventual defeat of the Islamic Republic but at horrible cost to the US (Israel loves this one)>10% chance that something super out of left field occurs that none of us predictedCouched in all of these is the secondary question of whether the Islamic Republic keeps itself from disintegrating. Any of the above scenarios can happen either with the Mullahs in charge or something else.
>>530091463>realisticallyUS and Israel run out of bombs and everything just kind of fizzles out with no war or peace treaty being declared. Then probably an Iranian crackdown on internal discent.
>>530091955BlaBlabla. You reek of S0 Y you schwuchtel. >facist Mullah regimeWho writes like that? Gays and german "women"?
>>530099898They want to insert Jared Kushner.
>>530091463It's Trump, and while he loves to butch up and pretend he's not a billionaire socialite he really fucking hates when it's not entirely on his terms and he's sure he won't look retarded. Even if he puts boots on the ground, it's Afghanistan 2, and will have a similar pathetic ending X years in the future. The smarter decision would be to get the fuck out as quickly as possible, which is still going to get him hammered politically, but play retarded games win retarded prizes. Maybe he can at least pull off a miracle that way(lol).
>>530091463I don't, I will die of old age before this war ends
>>530091463new ayatolah popped, a few other irgc men popped while the rest escapeslow cleanup process across iran as pahlavi's men move infunctional free iran 1y from now
>>530091463China invading Taiwan.
>>530105612like you give a fuck about iran also when does tkd happen?
>>530091463Trump is too pride to back out but I could see him declare "winning and achieving all he wanted", ultimately Isreal would have to back out maybe getting hit or two before ceasefire. Isreal won't back from Lebanon easily will probably try to flatten it with whatever they have left. iran will rebuild again and back to it's defensive position. gulf countries will limit us bases I believe or at won't all firing from them but they dont have a military so they depend on the us. Ukraine is lost cause to the US and I think the US benefits of having putin on NATO boarder like Russia is boggy man still. china already won enough intelligence about us and their attacks but again I dont see them making move on Taiwan.>pseudo peace
>>530107142wont allow*also palastine Isreal will counite it shit like pre war
>>530107142border *
Its not a war nigger jesus fucking christ you have the dictionary right at your finger tips use it.
It will end when Israel is buried under 30 billion megatons of sand. Otherwise you should realize that the middle east is the land of eternal conquest. Yahweh and Mohammad are both war gods. The conflict will never end in the middle east unless the middle east no longer exists. You can try to immanentized the escathon all you want but abrahamics are just like the communists. In that a real apocalypse revelation Armageddon has never happened just like real communism has never been tried.
>>530091463>endingohhhh no no no no
>>530107535Eglin not sending their best
>>530091463Divine InterventionIn 2 Kings 3, Moab was a vassal to Israel, and it decided to rebel against Israel. (v. 4-5) Israel, Judah, and Edom decide to strike back. They stop by the prophet Elisha to get Yahweh's word on whether they will be victorious. Elisha prophecies that "(Yahweh) will also deliver Moab into your hands. You will overthrow every fortified city and every major town." (v. 18-19)This appears to be the case, and every major city is destroyed except Kir Hareseth, or "Fortified City of Dirt." Over and over, Moab is defeated. But, suddenly, in verse 27, the Moabite king sacrifices his own child, and "divine wrath" fell on Israel, causing them to retreat. The Hebrew word there, קֶצֶף, is exclusively used in Classical Hebrew to describe the wrath of a deity. The Moabites worshipped Chemosh.We also have a Moabite stele with this exact scenario inscribed, paralleling 2 Kings 3: "Omri was king of Israel, and oppressed Moab during many days, and Chemosh was angry with his aggressions... and I took from it the vessels of Yahweh (adult enemy Jews), and offered them before Chemosh... And the king of Israel fortified Jahaz, and occupied it, when he made war against me, and Chemosh drove him out before me."This parallel is clear. in 2 Kings 3, Yahweh's prophecy of victory is a failure, and Chemosh's wrath drives Israel into retreat. Yahweh is not some sort of omnipotent being in much of the Bible. He is one of many gods, and he is a god that can be beaten.
>>530091585You're forgetting the third option: one or all of the shit heels involved decides to explore the nuclear option and shit gets real global real fast.
>>530091750it's a worthy sacrifice for israel, libtard
>>530093919i'm 99% sure chinks are planning to enter the game the second america commits too much and it is gonna get real bad real fast
>>530091463Eventually there will be a cease fire, and both sides will claim victory.
>>530109161I think that's very unlikely, but it's something we can never rule out.>>530109243Most likely outcome.
>>530093919>china>yenstop trying
>>530091463America assraping Iran until it cries. The end.
>>530091463IN TWO WEEKS,america will bomb some more shit, claim victory, then go homeand Shah Jr. will be no closer to ruling than he has been for the past 4 decades>>530108024holy fuck you are gay
>>530097475>the US cutting off their oilNope. Russian and Chinese tankers are getting through. Iran cut a deal. They're fucking fine.
>>530109949I'm not wrong though.
>>530091463After all of Ayatollah's civilian killing vermin are dead in will come a new young Persian leadership with the aid of elements of the Iranian military peace will be established.All old sexless fucks will be killed for impeding on our freedom, women's rights will be tolerated and the crazy women hating Iranian men will be locked away. The young Persians who fought for women's freedoms will have their choice of multiple wives.If this does not happen then we will see ISIS 2.0 and we will enslave all the women and distribute them.
>>530110168you take ancient internal jew propaganda myths (that involve demons, angels, and hobbits) as real history.you're an utter moron
>>530110419Both the Moabites and the Jews record observing Chemosh defeat the Yahweh and his Jewish minion.
>>530091463We’ve always been at war with Eurasia
Trump is going to get impeached and NATO could be stranded to its existential limits because Turkey will get involved against the armed kurds
>>530091463The elite see that shit costs too much, agree to a ceasefire and we can have another war in like 20 years.
>>530110657elie wiesel recorded germans gassing his people by the millionsjust because something (physically impossible) is written down, doesn't mean it happened
>>530091463American economy damage, American hegemony over, global economic crisis for which America will rightfully be blamed, American middle east bases abandoned.
>>5300998981-2 months of missile exchange means Israel is gone
>>530112009The Moabites also claims that their God, Chemosh, defeated Yahweh in the Mesha Stele, detailing the same story as written by Jews in the Bible. Thus this isn't just Jews trying to get victim points, they actually lost to Chemosh.Cope and seethe.
>>530112214okay but have you considered that saruman was ultimately defeated by gandalf which basically makes irrelevant whatever story you're talking about
No flesh will be spared
My hope is>institute a draft but only for illegal immigrants>promise citizenship if they go and also denounce their home citizenship>get them all killedtwo birds one stone
>>530100332>The Belgian gets it.>I generally agree with your earlier opinion:this is not badi pick "mission accomplished" and bail, but trump is finishednext 2 years impeached every week.
>>530111656>Turkey will get involved against the armed kurdsyes, getting busy with iran to genocide all the kurds once and for all
>>530108024>>530112214HOOOOLY basedlearned scholar of ancient myths The mystic of the new age Honorary wizard Probably the writer of Silmarilion 2.0 >>530110419>>530112009Gay basedence retard
>>530091463Total Tuvalu Victory I love out of nowhere underdog story!
>>530091463Iran has already won the war.The US is taking a blow economically.Europe is taking a blow economically, and they all know the US and isrel caused it.The US has lost a huge amount of standing in the world.Iran showed we can't protect our allies in the ME.Iran is expending 10's of millions in military hardware where the US is spending 10's of BILLIONS of dollars in hardware, not including the logistic cost.Iran has shown jews control the United States.The US is significantly more vulnerable to any shenanigans China and Russia decide to start.Trump is essentially begging Iran to come to the negotiating table.Only way the US wins is if we whip out some Area51 tier tech.If we don't whip out the Area51 tier tech, then there's a pretty good chance of the US devolving into civil war.China and Russia are now in significantly better position strategically to fuck with us. Our only card is nukes. China and Russia can totally fuck with our economy. If our economy collapses, it's civil war. We're also in a vulnerable position to any of the cartels south of our border who decide to take a shot, either for advantage/position or out of revenge.Letting jews lead us into war with Iran was such a fucking blunder.The more this Iran thing turns into a clusterfuck, the more I think it's intentional, as per MJKILLER's post. TPTB want to lead the world down to some chaotic path where everyone ends up getting so stressed out and tired at all the violence, chaos, dissension, and insecurity, everyone immediately buys into whatever BS solution TPTB have planned for us.Hegelian dialect. Create problem, then provide solution.MJKILLER: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/507977706/
>>530091463Galactic Federation finally revealing themselves to Humanity in order to prevent WW3, aka the Apocalypse.
>>530091717We can't penetrate Iran's bunkers without nukes. Ultra high performance concrete can be formulated to withstand over 50k psi. Link is non-military overview of UHPC.https://precast.org/wp-content/uploads/101123_Resources_UltraHighPerformanceConcreteWhitePaper.pdfIran has over 100 underground cities made with the stuff.Iran has already won.The US is taking a blow economically. Europe is taking a blow economically, and they all know the US and isrel caused it. The US has lost a huge amount of standing in the world. Iran showed we can't protect our allies in the ME. Iran is expending 10's of millions in military hardware where the US is spending 10's of BILLIONS of dollars in hardware, not including the logistic cost. Iran has conclusively shown jews control the United States. The US is significantly more vulnerable to any shenanigans China and Russia decide to start. Trump is essentially begging Iran to come to the negotiating table.Maybe Iran will do world a favor and wipe out isrel.
>>530100983and then actually nukes this time.
>>530091463>How do you see this war realistically ending?jewish nukes
>>530091463mass migration of jeets through Afghanistan into Iran. the purpose of this war is to destabilize the region by changing the religion from Islam to a more submissive one like hinduism that's what the last 20 years of the Afghan war was for, to pave the way for jeets
>>530091585Yeah. And the US is going to back out. We're going to do a few more days and then pack up and say mission accomplished.
>>530091463Us empire collapsing
>>530091585Pretty much this. With some small chance of Iran neighbours deciding to gang up on it or a civil war inciting in Iran.Land invasion could become pretty likely if USA manages to convince the rest of NATO and other allies to participate to reduce the burden, but honestly I doubt even Rubio has silver enough tongue for that one.
>>530091463The pedo satanists who rule you mutts will simply give up and go home while declaring victory, and you mutts will buy into the propaganda by moving goal posts and making shit up about how Iran totally lost the war because you managed to kill so many of them for only XYZ amount of damage done to you in return, while your nation becomes more and more degenerate and despotic and brown. Same as how every other American war has ended.You fags have already seen this movie several times now. You already know how it ends.
>>530095939lol nukes aren’t realAlso, it’s about money and oil as always, chyna is going to be cheap labor forever and BRICS shit the bed before US crypto takes over worldwide.
>>530091463Total kike death.US has already overextended and killed support from any other country and most of their own citizens. Any opportunist can wait for them to be at their weakest point before striking.Killing global oil trade will drive prices up when people were already at the breaking point of starvation. Countries that think they won't be involved are going to collapse on themselves after decades of siphoning off the wealth. People already had no hope of homes or families but no food is beyond what apathy can ignore.
I don't understand why the US thinks mudslimes want anything other than endless bloodshed. It's all they know. They will kill each other down to the last man.
>OP poses pointless chit chat question and contributes zero substancelearn to recognize pajeet threads. learn to stop giving (You)s, which end up as rupees, to the wrong posters. jews pay pajeets to spam this board en masse with the same agendas that you're still associating with only jews. since 2023 you are much more likely to see jew noise posted by a pajeet. there are a hundred times as many pajeets as there are jews. if you want any part of the internet to survive, you must detect, reject and redeem pajeets everywhere you find them
the majority of pajeets on /pol/ try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore
>>530117126>killed support from most of their own citizensIt's pretty much just boomer evangelicals now.imho, we're pretty close to civil war, but there's no clear ideological lines. Just mass chaos.Our economy is about to take a big blow. Diesel prices are up over a dollar per gallon. Everything that needs a truck to go somewhere is going to cost more.Fucking kikes.
>>530117570Your post is spam. Discussions are not for OP and never have been. They are to persuade third party viewers. It doesn't matter how disingenous the other party arguing is.
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