I thought we had several jets dogfighting in Iran?
Why can't OP stop fellating cocks?
>>530091702no lmao>>530091719why always gay sex analogies?
>>530091628 Because Iran's air force is outdated and pathetic. If memory recalls they still employ F-14's which are hilariously outdated by today's standards.
>>5300916281) America has more experience 2) They have better tools for filtering retards
>>530091702Yes, OP's another shill probably out of Jew land or some boomer desperately seething on his 10th beer with his gut out and his Trump hat on.Most of Iran's Airforce is still intact but fuck honesty amirite.
>>530091628who needs to fight when their planes crash themselves.
>>530092744< This guy is a US Army shill.24 hours ago Media was reporting F14 and F15s getting shot down from the US and allies now the google results are acting like the entire airforce is F22s lmfao you guys are so fucking transparent you might as well be clear food wrap.
>>530092744>If memory recalls they still employ F-14'sI wonder how they got those.
>>530091628>most state of the art jets they have are F-14 Tomcats from the 70's>why don't they dogfight F-35's and F-22's?
>>530091628Dunno, why didnt Luxembourg put up a fight against Nazi Germany, we will never know the answer to such mysteries.
>>530093034the Shah was our ally.
>>530091628Leavitt said that the US hasn't achieved air superiority.
>>530091628what air force did they have?Muslims havent been militarily relevant for almost 200 years
>30 year old MiGsgrim
>>530091628>it' just like my Top Gun!
>>530091702>>530092781>dogfighting in 2026this is how I know you're both 80 IQ retards
>>530091628Why didn't the United States defend it's bases in the middle east?
>>530093265every time they say dogfighting is dead we have a conflict where dogfighting is relevant again.though you'd think stealth might change that? What happens if we get into an air war against Chinese J-20's? Neither F-35 nor J-20 will see each other until they're in visible range and dogfight.
>>530093265Hey now the pakis did it last year.Led to air engagement fatalities not seen in decades but they did it.
>>530092999We certainly haven't lost any f14, having been out of service for several decades now
>>530091628Because amerifags are blindly walking into their trap. Go ahead. Do a ground invasion. It's a great idea.
because they got bombed.BOMB IRAN.
>>530091628> Why doesn’t the enemy engage us on our terms?
>>530093490nah they had all BVR kills>>530093563Only aircraft we've lost is 3 F-15's in Kuwait to friendly fire, and Israel lost an F-35 over Iraq (the first F-35 lost in combat ever, we've had plenty crash from accidents but none actually shot down until now and not a US one).Israel modifies their F-35's to have a larger fuel tank inside but has to have weapons hardpoints on the wings, which give it a larger radar signature so they're not as stealthy.
>>530091628Mutts didnt even achieve air superiority yet lol
>>530091628People in the west just can't comprehend how incompetent 3rd world Militaries are. Particularly those with the "inshallah" or "manana" cultures.The jets likely:werent maintained properlyWerent fueled, armed or ready to deploy at a moments notice.the pilots were probably stoned or butffucking each otherThey likely got bombed while sitting on the airfield within the first few minutes of the strike, that and im wagering US SOF went in ahead of time and put a .50 cal slug through each jet engine.
>>530094117That's not what she said, you dumb colored monkey. Six weeks was for all the current objectives.
>>530093832Yes yes, friendly fire.
>>530094474People in the west can’t comprehend how difficult it is to produce jet parts when you have to execlusively rely on your native industry all the way through the supply chain.
>>530094869We had a female translator from Jordan who did some of our cultural briefings before deploying, talk about a giga hottie.My experience is with the ANA. Even when given perfectly functional equipment, these shitheads couldnt even do preventative maint on the hummvees and M16A1 rifles we gave them for free. It was difficult even getting them to bring water or go on patrol without getting high on opium or weed. Trying to teach these guys weapon classes or combat first aide was a nightmare. Often they couldnt even get spacing right on patrols so an IED would go off and take several out because they like to group up. It was just a shit show all around.I felt so bad that we left those poor M16A1's there, they deserved a better fate.>loads 31 rounds in a magazine>tries to seat mag in the magwell on a closed bolt*>hitting bottom of the mag like a deranged monkey>DIRKA DIRKA DIRKA M16 BAD!!!!>gets high before patrol>has ND>inadvertently starts shootout with Afghan National policeThe Americans we were with who did tours in Iraq reported arabs were really no different.
>>530093425what dogfighting relevance?
>>530091628>What is asymmetric warfare
>>530092999>US Army shill.Checked but we don't give a fuck about jets>t. Infantry Maybe an A-10
>>530094697The US still hasn't achieved air superiority by their own admission.
>>530095727Are you surprised that the only people willing to work with you were drug addicted scam artists?
>>530095979Those A10's are sexy AF. I witnessed them wipe out around 70 talishits in one day (IED making factory we cornered them in). It was beautiful.
>>530091628Maybe pic related is why.
>>530096142Dude, the taliban were just as fucked up. That whole area of the planet should just be nuked.
They have Ghost of Kuwait
>>530096169Awesome plane.I would like to see Trump bring them back.
>>530095727Congratulations, you just described every career soldier ever. Who else would do a job that sacrifices a good amount of their peak life years, has a chance of death, is 24/7 on-call, is very strict, AND also pays like shit?You'd have to be a dumb ass mfer to willingly do that, or just dirt poor, or more than likely both
>>530096258>Dude, the taliban were just as fucked up. That whole area of the planet should just be nuked.I have no words to say other than you complain about them being tarded, but lost to them as well. What exactly does that make you and your colleagues in the grand scheme of things?
>>530096142I will add though.The only ones who were competent were the foreign terrorists eg Al Qaida and Chechens. Many had training nearly on par with SOF. They would have a couple of those guys in each village turning the goat herders into terrorists.
>>530093234Lol. You're an idiot and no I'm not a shitskin, kike, or commie. Bro you really do think every country in the Middle East is just one big Afghanistan?
>>530091628They're holding a few planes deep under bunkers to use as delivery of nukes to Israel once they build the nuke and all the AAs and radars are depleted or destroyed. Their nuclear fuel can't be miniaturized and put on a missile but it can be used in a gravity bomb dropped from a plane.
>put up ancient jets>they explode for nothing in return Instead hide them and use the ground crews for air defence, as they should be a bit smarter than the typical conscriptsBetter than losing things for nothing in return
>>530096575Okay, that's a bit more honest than blanket statements.
>>530096461I wouldnt really call what they had a "victory" we basically got bored of stacking their bodies like cord wood and blowing money on a country that will always be a screwed up, corrupt shithole and left.
>>530093425>chink slopKek
>>530094835Yeah. Kuwait confirmed it. Do you think iran shot down jets over Kuwait but was incapable of shooting any down over iran? Keep coping
I refuse to believe everyone with a meme flag, and 3rd world flags are this retarded. I have a gut feeling that most of you are lying jews trying to make most of the 3rd world look bad.
>>530096710Yeah, that's a victory, the reason you had invaded in the first place was probably either as a staging ground for either Iran or attack position for China. None of what you guys did it for made any sense. I don't think your government imagined the soul crushing reality of being there or how much it would cost you. It absolutely was a victory for them.
>>530096829The Ghost of Kuwait is now an ace, he doesn't let silly things like borders stop him.
>>530091628jets are almost useless now just like warships. they only exist to sent out missiles or drop bombs and not for their original purpose.
>>530093113>Why don't they dogfight F35s?The F35 lost all DACT scenarios in all conditions in every single test conducted.
>>530096647>Iran using a nuke on anyoneNever going to happen. They may want to but they would also ACK themselves, Pakistani, india, central stan Asia, and central China because they can only make shitty low grade dirty fuel. China would nuke them before jews got nuked.
I would guess they put most of them into tunnels and are saving them for semi suicide missions during a ground invasion
>>530096575so are you saying that the russians training them would have turned taliban/afghans into SOF? cuz the chechens all had russian/soviet army training
>>530094474>3rd world MilitariesIran has safe, clean cities where you can ride the subway without being murdered by niggers. It has the highest per-capita population of engineers and the largest female engineering corps.>The jets likely:>They likelyTalking out your ass lmao.>while sitting on the airfieldIran's jets are stored underground. America is showing videos of painted decoys getting bombed, so no there's no success in American bombing yet.
>>530096169Love the Warthog, seen it at work a couple times in Afghanistan, lotta depleted uranium embedded in the side mountains in Paktika province
>>530097501Iran was running out of water in Tehran Its 3rd world Missile maxxing has its downsides
>>530097421Last time I saw anything abouts chechens is when Russia sent them into Ukraine and they were all praying with the word HOMO on thier uniforms. Seemed like a weird humiliation ritual. I have only met 2 IRL and they seemed like pretty decent dudes.
>>530097591Oh what you saw was OMOH (OMON) on their uniforms. That's like a SWAT Tactical Team. IDK why Russians where using them in Ukraine tho
what air force?
>>530096441they are too slow for modern conflicts
>>530091628Why would they? Just keep the planes in bunkers underground, the US cannot even hit them. US cannot regime change from the air. US can't do shit from the air. Literally just chill yo.Iran is thinking about a US invasion, that's when those will come out. Pray to God that never happens because it will be the end of the world.
>>530096647They're holding all of them and everything in underground bases in autonomously controlled independent military districts across the country.The killing of the Ayatollah by Israel was designed specifically to keep Iran from deescalating, they will try to push the US out of the region no matter what which could force US involvement, so is their line of thought. Assassinating Iran's leadership twice during negotiations was designed to push them to that and make them not negotiate. Israel is forcing this war on the US. They are traitors and we should be bombing them instead of Iran right now.
>>530091628Why throw them into the meat grinder? It's not time for them to be effective. They might be later, or they might never be in this conflict.
>>530093425Good thing the f35 can outrate an f16
>>530097802Big thank you. I can't find the image, tired for like 10 mins. It ki d of looked like this but I think the uniforms were way darker and they where praying inside, I think it was 2023
>>530091628Are these modified T-38 Talons???
>>530097237More chink lies
>>530097528Hello fellow alamo resident
>>530093398lol. this.
>>530097528Or maybe you were an urgun baby
>enters the chat
>>530091628Well, for starters they were sold out by the Saudis. The King inked a deal with Iran guaranteeing Saudi airspace wouldn't be used by the US for runs. They are. They have. Picrel.Don't trust kikes, but especially don't trust Saudis.
>>530095799they've claimed that dogfighting was obsolete since the korean war.but it cropped up in Vietnamit cropped up in the Iran Iraq warit happened in the Gulf Warit happened in Serbia in 1999last incidence of dogfighting was 2019 Pakis vs JeetsStealth fighter vs non stealth fighters are gonna all be BVR, but once you have stealth vs stealth there will be dogfights again.
>>530099235NOT SO FAST BUDDY, IM ON UR 6>MMMMRRrrrRrrRrOoOooOoWwwwww
Brownoids can't into aviation
>>530099499To be fair, huezil makes some breddy gud aircraft. That's about it though. Maybe France, too?
>>530099365Is this why they didn't put guns on the j20
>>530092999smartest memeflag known to science
>>530099026F-5's, so pretty close.
>>530097930Maybe we could retrofit some scramjet engines on it?
>>530091628Pointless. They're severely outmatched. It would be a waste of time. Keep the birds hidden and safe underground until an opportune moment arises. This war is still early on. It's been only a week. Wait until a few years.
>>530099545The brazilians are doing an unironic wonderful job right now. EMB 312 Tucano (basic trainer) and the advanced EMB 314 Super Tucano (A-29). They are not jet powered buy they have almost no maintenance and live forever. America could have like 500 of these per f35 and if we already had complete air impedance, it would be kino to use them.
>>530099373I've always wanted to fly the Flapjack
Its because they had 4th generation fighters!
>>530099803Imagine this: Super Toucan vs War Caravan
>>530091628uhm they uh have uhh 6 trillion black jets 6 miles underground they will launch in 2 weeks
>>530099803Those things would get eaten up by even chinese air defense. I think they're pretty cool, and would work for small units to have their own integrated CAS, but only in an environment like gwot iraq or afghanistan.
>>530099625maybe that'll be what makes them lose the air war if we have one with them.F-35's gunning down J-20's once they're visual range.I heard some snippet once that in an intercept over the South China sea F-35's outmaneuvered Chinese pilots and it demoralized them.
>>530099803The Super Tucano is only useful as an A-10 replacement in low intensity COIN ops. It’s worthless against a peer adversary
>>530099365>it happened in the Gulf War >it happened in Serbia in 1999The closest thing we had to a dogfight in either was a maneuver kill where an Iraqi saw an f-15, freaked out and flew into the ground.>2019 Pakis vs JeetsJeet dogfights consist of jets flying to the border and taking pot shots at each other. Dogfighting is like knife fighting at this point. It's a possibility but if it happens it means shit we t horribly wrong for both sides.
>>530100199It wasn’t that they outmaneuvered them, it’s that they crept up on them and formed up with them before they knew they were even there
>>530100125We had them at BAF before the cuck out. Thats why I said if we had full i'm impedance. I just want to fly with like 200 other dudes at the same time and do a ww2 style raid. Thats the way she blows boys.
>>530091628>>530091702Shelomov is a jew. His parents are Judean KhazarsMeanwhile, Xi is just a liar.Russia refused to sell Iran what Iran paid for, China sold Iran garbage.SAD!
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>>530100199F35s are slightly better dogfighters than the f16s according to the latest force on force trainings.
>>530091719Why can't you stop sucking dicks with your asshole?
>>530100674and the J-20 is I guess equivalent to an F-16 in a dogfight?
>>530092744The U.S. Navy would still be flying F-14’s if they were cheaper to operate.
>>530101132Less so if it doesn't have a gun
