Ok I'm going to try to lay out what I and some others have been thinking about given the events of the last 60 days with regards to international relations and foreign policy.Before doing that, let me lay out some first principles with regards to grand strategy. Let's do a simple exercise, suppose you are the number one power in the world, who should you ally with and against whom? We can represent this visually (parenthesis green text today's world)1.Hegemon>(usa, anglo American empire, Israel etc)2. 2nd great power>(the People's Republic of China)3. 3rd great power >(the Russian Federation)4. 4th great power>(somewhat contested, India?Brazil?The EU?)5. The even greater chaos of the mid to small powersSo, if you are Number 1 who do you ally with and against whom? The answer has been known to us for a while likely since the time of the British Empire and probably before that perhaps going as far back as Machiavelli. The simple answer is that you always ally with 3 and 4 against 2. The reverse, say ally with 2 against 3 (or 4 or both) doesn't work, precisely because 2 understands this process and won't actually let you do that because 3 and 4 are potentially allies against you. There are other advantages to joining with 3 and 4 against 2, you can use them to destroy 2 and settle in for another century of dominance because 3 and 4 will be weakened.This brings us to today for more than 15 years America has basically tried to maintain reasonable relations with 2 (china) and go after 3 (russia), this has largely been for ideological reasons. But the Ukraine War is proving how unrealistic this strategy really is. Russia isn't gonna crack and ultimately Bejing stands behind them ready to produce what they need to continue fighting. So why go after Venezuela and now Iran? Because if you can get both of these it's almost as good as toppling Russia, and recalibrates the board enough to give you a beter chance against Russia+China in the coming decades.
>>530093173New Russian cope just dropped.
India a great power? You fucking retard
The thing is that atm puccia is gaining from the Iran war and high oil prices. Orange fagg even unsenctioned puccian oil for India so India doesnt put a burden on world supply and increase the price even further.
>(somewhat contested, India?Brazil?The EU?)I know what you are
>>530093173iranians have techs that certain interests either wish to control or simply assure are never made public>https://youtu.be/C7v01AsPKOw
>>530093173Russia is number 4 not 3, EU is 3,
>>530094545Lmao yo chat wake up new tardtaria meme has dropped
>>530094445Ah ouais nafri? Raconte moi. Fuck ton pays c'est de la grosse esti marde.
>>530094685>EU: we still existShut up.
>>530094958You’re either Indian, or Canadian. I don’t know which one is more pathetic. You’re either born from a landfill disguised as a country or in a country too busy being replaced by actual Indians to have any meaningful impact on the international scene.
>>530093173It is a little bit more complex than that, I'm drunk so I'll try to answer as coherently as possible, please be patient.>suppose you are the number one power in the worldAfter the fall of the Soviet Union the USA is the dominant power of the world, not a great power, not a superpower, but the DOMINANT power, this distinction is important to understand.There are no great power, China, Russia, UK (anglo-sphere) and the EU are secondary powers, Brazil and India are irrelevant on the global scale, at most they may aspire to be regional powers, like Israel and Iran are trying to contest a region in the middle east.>5. The even greater chaos of the mid to small powersThose are shitholes, not powers.Your number analysis, USA doesn't need Russia to counter China, on the contrary, it is Russia that is between a wall and hard rock, Russia is between NATO and China, look at their demographics for seconds and the territory and you will understand my meaning. If given the chance Russia would join NATO without thinking it twice.> America has basically tried to maintain reasonable relations with 2 (china) and go after 3 (russia)USA international relation has been a complete clusterfuck since Bush Jr., they only contemplate profit, that is until Trump, that he is so compromised he has to dance to the tune that is playing.>So why go after VenezuelaFor oil, this was strategy, he knew he could count with gulf's oil.>So why go after IranFor the song the musicians are playing.If allowed, both Trump and Putin would go to bed without thinking it twice.
>>530093173It's very very simple.Ever since the Ukrainian war exposed Russia as fake and gay, we have been taking everything they own.That's it. There's no big mystery. We got rid of Assad, Maduro, and Khameini because they were our enemies and Russia was too weak to protect them. I wonder what we will take from Russia next? Maybe we will give them a break and take Canada or Greenland.
>>530095772Yes? Is that why your people continually flee here ? Take them back, they have bad manners and even worse fashion sense
>>530093173>new superpower>india>braSHIT, biggest nigger shithole in the world and controlled by kikesKys poopjeet
>>530096201>im drunkMe too nigga!!!The point is that it doesn't make sense to try stay friendly with china and try to take down Russia. It would make more sense according to classical theory to play russia against china (3 vs 2). This is basically how the cold war was one just the reverse, America bringing china in from the cold to play against Russia, ie nixon goes to china. It didn't hurt that you had the sino-soviet split and a state of near war between The USSR and The PRC by 1969.
>>530093746>huge land mass>huge population>own nukes and triad of delivery>own SSBNs>huge armyIt is a clear 4th you can cope like a little fat bitch as much as you want>>530096201USA is doing what it has to do to stay dominant. I don't know if it will succeed but i don't see a threat for at least 15-20 years minimum
>>530096378Pretty much this. Big stack poker. Chinese are complete pussies and tbeir geography will always constrain them from ever being a world power
>>530097200In paper yes, but EU went completely Russio-phobe, EU is globohomo and Russia traditional, also Russia losing influence in Ukraine and invading it didn't help. China is the manufactory of the world so everyone has to trade with them and smile, even if they want to stab them. I think your analysis may be realized on the long run, but right now we are fucked. Try to emulate the long nose tribe and get a profit from this while we wait for the tide to change.
>>530093173good analysis
>>530097299The only country that can challenge the US is China, but they are terrified of projecting their power, they should have invaded Taiwan during the Biden presidency (an infirm president), or right now that there is ta mess in the gulf, but they are scared. And if they are scared, they cannot be considered powerful.
Okay so lets be honest here, right?There's only really two major sides to this conflict. Basically 1) The west (US, Europe, gulf arab states)and2) Axis (Russia-Iran-China-North Korea)And then you have 3) IsraelNow, I know I know why separate this from the west? well I do that because they are actually fighting against certain Iranian proxies that we aren't. I say this also because if Israel starts to take control of land AGAIN, they are doing something that is not sanctioned by the US, using our resources doing these operations in south Lebanon, etc. And then 4) Sunni extremismAnd their rebellious tendencies against the controlling powers of Iran and the Taliban to the east of Iran. 4) is going to start to get involved and start attacking 1) (insofar as Pakistan is considered an ally of the west) and then also attack 2), because they are attacking Iran and the Taliban. Now this is why Azerbaijan is fighting Iran also, because they need to either be absorbed or quickly kill Iran, essentially there must be a lot of traffic between Russia and Iran and Russia is giving a shitload of intel to Iran, which was in the news today. They do this to show Iran where to strike.Because of these reasons, late in this war I think side 4) and side 3) will show their true colors. we will have to eventually overcome 4) but they may kill more Iranians and Russians before we do this, and also 3) may eventually overstep their bounds even more and start territorially acquiring things like Lebanon and Syria as the war goes on. we are in for some interesting times. Excpect Oman to be a late player as well. It's about to be open season, for Europe also. Europe and the US for the most part have their hands full trying to repel nukes/hypersonic missiles from Russia. welcome to ww3/hell.
>>530098101Privat tavari Ivan From Ohio oblast. One day Russians will wake up and think "Oh God Europeans are not scary of us, they want to eat us alive" . You are already to late with your nap. Poles just want to be let alone but german industrialist clique probably together with the French will disembowel you for the various cheap resources which they need more and more desperately with every passing day. Probably your elites already started to fear Europe, they simply don't want you to know
>>530099191We be leaf'n
>>530095105They exist, and are better than Russia is the jist of it
>>530098831Yeh. They've never been a world power. I think they never will be because they don't have the geographic advantages USA does. Army hasn't fought 50 years either
>>530098831>The only country that can challenge the US is China,Russia has a stronger military than China. Just saying. Your priorities may be a bit skewed
>>530096378Wow great for Israel, kike loyalist.
>>530097200>>530097200NATO's entire purpose depends on an antagonistic Russia. So if Russia has female business owners, free higher education, health care, markets, etc. what is there for NATO to do? What evil empire is there for them to attack? They're a large, slightly poorer Finland with more drinking. The terror!NATO has all this historical momentum and it requires an antagonistic Russia as a counterbalance. Problem is the Russians are clearly not expanding, unless you count Georgia or annexing Crimea as expansion, which are the lamest and smallest expansions probably ever. Physical expansion is expensive, causes proxy wars that can lead to nukes, and it's not clear the US actually makes any money from its military bases.In other words, NATO exists to stop a Russian expansion that will never come. They can wait all day for it, but there's no fucking money in expansion. It's not 1940 anymore.The anti-Russian attitudes are something like lunacy at this point. NATO should pivot to the Middle East and let Russia join it. This would be in America's long term interest.
>>530099956Too late man, Russia is helping Iran in a war America is involved in. You can't change this.
>>530099956>Problem is the Russians are clearly not expanding>While they're clearly expanding into ukraine
Anyone who says I'm wrong can see the Mearsheimers position is pretty close to mine, but then he got it from Palmerstonhttps://youtu.be/rQ1ynpB7iUk
>>530099005Tons of buzz and fear kino>Today it is 1979 US(RR) started its intervention in Afganistan,>but it's not Afganistan it is Ukraine,>and you not so slowly go bankrupt,>so in the borrowed time you start to go tactical nuclear because this Fear is fucking cheaper>Nobody listen everybody not a total shithole goes nuclear.>Global economy goes to the gutter, every region becames economic fortress,>Europe gnaws on the Russian flesh growling on China gnawing Syberia,>everybody race to open The Big Fridge,>Patagosrael and Goystralia (now you know why the accident) are closet to the door.>That bunker in New Zealand turned out to be a bad idea...
america does not suffer alliesthey only have vassals
>>530096378wiping out china proxies and cash. cartels, venezuela,iran, cuba soon
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>>530099088Poland is more coherent than Germany and France right now, you need to keep it tight and strong, be prepared when shit hits the fan.>>530099410I'm a simple man trying to kevetch some profit, I have children to feed. Russia may have looked more powerful than China before the Ukrainian mess, but right now, after so many years swamped in a never ending war, everyone is questioning their capabilities, the let Armenia, Syria and Venezuela fall, and they are doing very little for Iran.
>>530093173Your ignoring the globohomo aspects, global logistics and economy who still doesn't have a privatized central bank. When you do you'll understand their actions. Iran is one of the few who hasn't folded yet to globohomo and by using Venezuela oil, they have a means of reducing the damage when they go for the finisher against Iran. It was always about taking the last holdouts against globohomo since WW2. Right now they feel as if they are very close to succeeding and feel like they're running out of time due to increasing internal issues.All wars are banker wars.
>>530093173Go back visajeet
>>530100604Answer to this equation:Make Rhodesia before someone reactivates his old nuclear friend (Vela)But for now China has an upper hand and needs to hurry or start to set the cuckchair
>>530093173That would maybe be true if we didn’t sink into a lunatical quagmire in Iran. If we really get into a land based operation in that sand trap, the whole chessboard will be reconfigured and Russia will have a sharp advantage. They will know, and observe, that America can be defeated by placing Israel at risk. Just as Zelensky noted, we have fired more interceptor missiles in three days defending Israel than we have in the whole of the Ukrainian war. If turkey suddenly sided with Russia, we would be all kinds of fucked. I wonder if Turkey has the bomb?
>>530101710>If turkey suddenly sided with Russia, we would be all kinds of fuckedAbsolutely anon. I would not be surprised if Turkey outright begins extorting the United States to remain onside in the coming years.
>>530101647Oh, and start to preach to the negours that La Wakanduix was on Kerguelen IslandBTW Hans, your southernmost military grave is also there...
>>530093173People thinking that the USA is the No1 power just goes to show how fucked in the head everybody is.They can't defeat Houthis ffs.Their game is to do some Hollywood shit like Venezuela, change nothing but declare victory and get out, totally chicken out like with the Houthis or just bomb a defenseless country into oblivion like Libya.Any semi serious conflict and they're toasted, THEY DON'T HAVE AN INFANTRY.
>>530096201>UKKek
>>530098831>they should have invaded TaiwanWhy thoughYou don't know how retarded you are
>>530102434Veto power in the UN and nukes, no offense, but can your country say the same? (my shithole can't, I'm so ashamed I used a memeflag)
>>530102521Yup, Taiwan is always one conservative revolution swing away from the unification, and Asians love them gacha
>>530102521you don't like taiwan, that is ok, pick one of the list:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_of_Chinathey are terrified of moving a piece in the board
>>530102678>Veto power in the UNIrrelevant as fuck when the war kicks off, it's an outdated political agreement, I'm surprised India and others aren't pushing for a change>and nukesSo also NK, India, Israel, Pakistan? Why leave those out ?>can your country say the same? You listed EU as the same tier as the UK but country wise it should be France only in EU (nukes) so make up your mind.EU is a joke though and so is the UK, they are not powers of any kind and the UK is a 110% cuckstate.>>530103219"Territorial dispute" doesn'tt mean you have to go to wae, many countries have territorial disputes and they live just fine with those. Croatia and Slovenia have a territorial dispute, I can't imagine they'd go to war over it.You're just a brainwashed fucktard>A country X didn't go to war haha cucks>A country Y went to war noooo they are evil criminalsReddit mindset. >they are terrified of moving a piece in the boardThey annexed Tibet>OMG THAT'S TERRIBLE FREE TIBET HASHTAG NOOO EVIL CHINAThey didn't annex Taiwan>HAHAHA CHICKEEEENSAbsolute fucktard
>>530103843All that China does now is a work to legitimate them as world hegemon because they are assured that sooner or later US will hang themselves
