How is Iran claiming any sort of victory when Israeli and US deaths are at 12 and 6, respectively? And if Israel and the US are lying about this, why does the media, who claim to know everything about the inner thinking of Trump and his administration, not reporting on it? Surely there would be families of the deceased who haven't heard from their loved ones for over a week willing to say as much? Surely they would have intel refuting the official casualty report?I'm beginning to think Iran is lying....
>>530094397Iran just need to destroy Gulf's oil industry to defeat the US. No goycattle deaths necessary.
>>530094540Can you answer any of my questions? I don't care what your opinion is.
>>530094397Iran are lying and the defeatist sounding liberal news sources and accounts posting AI videos are useful idiots for the Iranian gov which is sending out fake AI videos of US ships exploding and damage control.This isn't Iraqi Freedom. This is what actually winning looks like.
>>530094397Iran's made few actual claims.president.ir
>>530094397I hate your stupid lying cunt of a country with a passion. Die and go to Hell.
>>530094540They haven't done that. They do and the gulf states hit Iran with ground forces and there won't be any Iranians left. Anywhere.
>>530094639Your questions are gay and retard. Iran didn't "claim" any "victory". Anything else?
>>530094785Do you have any answers, memeflag? These are very simple questions.
>>530094397>when Israeli and US deaths are at 12 and 6, respectively?It almost sounds like Iran wasn't a threat and the whole justification for the war was a lie
>>530094540The us is the world's largest oil producer. America doesn't need Gulf oil. China however does.
>>530094397War ain't about how hard you can hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and still keep posting AI fakes on your government twitter account.
>>530094892Then let me rephrase. They've claimed 650 Americans wounded/killed. Where is the proof?
>>530094895You are a fucking liar anti-christ piece of shit. Die.
>>530094905Other way around, America needs Gulf oil, China doesn't.
>>530094825>gulf states hit Iran with ground forcesReally doubt that. If the US would have a hard time doing this, gulf states would have it 100x worse.The best gulf states can do is to cry for the US to do the job for them.
>>530095033Where did I lie?
>>530095012They don't own you any proof. Do they?
Iran lied about their own supreme leader being killed for hours, of course they lie about everything else. That's just how thirdies are.
>>530095129All of it. You fuckign liar anti-christ piece of shit. Burn in Hell.
>>530095172It doesn't sound like they own any proof, that is correct, and the point of this thread. Thanks?
>>530095230You are a sore loser who can't accept reality.
>>530095229Christ is my Savior and I have accepted this since I was 12. I will not be in hell. I await His glory in His Kingdom when St. Peter calls my name.
>>530094639It’s not an opinion. It’s fact. You not liking it has no bearing on its truth.
>>530094905They’re letting Chinese ships through, and you’re right you have your own oil, but the EU, Japan, Korea, Taiwan and the GCC rely on the gulf oil industry, you’d be taking down all your allies in one fell swoop.Not a good strategy when WW3 is coming up.
>>530095337You bombed a bunch of little girls. Burn in Hell.
>>530095355I asked nothing about oil refinery strike capabilities or other hypotheticals. My questions were very black and white and at the top of this thread. Why are they so hard to answer? 23 replies and not a single answer or attempt to answer.
They can’t win but they can make it where everyone loses. We are already bombing the fuck out of them so being able to get any sort of offense is a win for them. If enough US and allies die it is a loss for the US since no one here wants a war in the first place besides jews
>>530095537You only know how to lie. Burn in Hell.
>>530095476I live in a meager house on a modest hill, I have bombed no one. Can you please answer my questions at the top of this thread or move on?
>>530095564All your special force got slaughtered like pigs, and they are all rotting in Hell.
>>530095564I didn't ask that fren. My questions, at the top of this thread, are what I am focused on. If I wanted military insight, I'd go to /k/, not /pol/.
>>530095609Lying and censorship is all you do. Burn in Hell.
>>530095638Can you show proof of this?
>>530094892Their shills on here are declaring victory for them.
>>530094397Don't you think thatay e those death reports are the actual lie and they got you thinking that you guys have it all under control ? Americans for sure are a dumb population. 2,4, 8 weeks ? Let's see how long it drags... And yeah, the complete world hates you now. Congrats, sure must feel nice to be the good guys.
>>530095710Why should I feed any of it to you? This is war, and I genuinely want to your entire country suffer.
>>530094397>How is Iran claiming any sort of victoryAmerica has been effectively pushed out of the middle east.
>>530095742>Don't you think thatay e those death reports are the actual lie and they got you thinking that you guys have it all under control ?That's the juxtaposition of the question - that the American and world media are eager to hold Trump accountable so, therefore, if the US are misrepresenting, there would surely be proof by now, even if only by 1 body?
>>530094397Disregarding the fact that most death numbers on all sides right now are probably wrong and unreliable, having more kills is not an automatic win, it's not team deathmatch here. US killed way more people and caused way more destruction in Vietnam and Afghanistan than their enemy and still lost.
>>530095802I see, it is you that is the liar. You've been projecting this entire time. I will pray for you. It seems you are not having a good go of life lately.
>>530095742yeah buddy, of course we know the media loves trump and will cover for him, last thing liberals in the media want is some sort of hugely damaging story on trump leaking out!
>>530094397Indeed, maybe they're paying off that Kuwaiti pilot, I heard his coffeemaker is the Ghost of Kuwait.
>>530095869The American media has been pro-Iran war for years, everyone in charge is, they are all pro-military and would not go out of their way to undermine it and endanger their careers and lives just to spite Trump. Plus the military is very secretive about this information during war time, for obvious reasons, Israel has tons of censors on this shit right now. No doubt many Trump haters are now grateful he was brave/retarded enough to give them their dream war just like with Venezuela and Cuba.
>>530094397Iran can't win outright. The major advantage they have is that trump and this war are unpopular. They have to make it as messy and costly as possible in hopes that trump caves to backlash. This may not occur but defeat and surrender are the same thing so they might as well go down fighting
>>530095932I have a very good times. Seeing your cunts soldier getting annihilated everyday. You have never gain a single victory in this entire war, ans that's amazing. Praise be to God Almighty.
>>530094397>6This is like inverse holocaust number manipulation
>>530095337What a fucking idiot. Christ was Palestinian you know ? All those saints, were of the same race that you seem to hate, and you believe you free of guilt ? You are more brainwashed than any Muslim you may critiIce you faggot. Jesus would never respect a idiot like you who speaks in his name the way you do, you are a shame, a sad excuse for a Christian.
>>530096055>would not go out of their way to undermine it and endanger their careers and lives just to spite Trump. Clearly you have not been paying attention since last Saturday. Drudgereport.com would be a great place for you to start to see this isn't true.
>>530096107>Seeing your cunts soldier getting annihilated everyday.You can't prove this, because you are a liar, which is a sin. Shame on you.
Iran won the real war, the AI sloppa war
>>530094397>Israeli and US deaths are at 12 and 6
>>530094639None of the casualtie counts being forwarded by Israel or the US are accurate. It is fog of war propaganda to hide how big a cluster fuck this has been from the public.
>>530096217I have my eyes you shit for brain fucking cunt.
>>530095866>pushed outNo we're still there
>>530096177Christ would hate that I am saying that accepting Him grants you Eternal Salvation? Romans 10:9 says differently.
>UM ACKSHUALLY I'M WINNINGNobody cares, Eglin.
>>530095695you are a shitskins incel
>>530094397Because the retarded Americans have no means of dethroning the IRGC and have not attempted to find any. This war will end when Trump gets bored, possibly soon because the retarded Americans allowed Iran to close the Strait so now we will have an economic crisis.
>>530096411I am the chosen one of the Almighty God.
>>530096222Show proof of anything differently? Or answer any of the original questions?>>530096256Then, as I said, there must be independent sources that can refute the official count by just 1 person, no?>>530096264Ephesians 4:31-32
>>530096256kek more like thirdies are so can't believe how shit they are they can even hurt Americans anymore so they cope by pretending they are despite having zero proof
>>530096411He's either insane, or an Indian shill that comes on here to infuriate actual religious people. He comes on here every now and again he is God's chosen sent to judge mankind.
>>530096455Israel will cease to exist within 3 years. All anti-christ will go to Hell.
Arabs are about as honest as Indians. Maybe less so.
>>530096593Colossians 3:8If you follow Christ, you sure don't show it in your worldly deeds. He will not forget that.
>>530096443I do not acknowledge your authority at all. Quite the contrary. I rebuke you in the name of Christ.
>>530094397>Israeli and US deaths are at 12 and 6, respectively?Why do you believe this?>Why doesn't the Jew-owned media counter-signal the Jews?Real mystery, retard.>Surely there would be families of the deceased who haven't heard from their loved ones for over a week willing to say as much?The US has an agency, The Community Relations Service, whose sole function is to harrass and manage American families who have just lost a family member, in order to manage public response. Also, the families wouldn't be told immediately.>Surely they would have intel refuting the official casualty report?Like America's military hospitals closing to the public and running blood drives? Like the IRGC's inflicted casualty reports? Like the ambulances running multiple laps to military bases in the gulf?>>530094701>This is what actually winning looks like.Why is the strait closed? When will oil prices go down?>>530094905>America doesn't need Gulf oil.America's allies do. America needs Gulf money from its oil sales.>>530095012>Where is the proof?The Jews and the Iranians are claiming things without proof, and you're uncritically believing the Jews. No need to dress it up.
>>530096584I am the most powerful being on this earth. No countries, no goverment, and no power in the world can ever touch Me.I am protected by God Almighty.
>>530096353>No we're still thereYou have a navy presence that is staying at maximum range to avoid getting hit.Your bases are in ashes.You lost all your middle east bases in less than one week.
>>530096693In all Heaven and EarthIn all that existed and will exist for all of EternityI, alone, am the chosen ONE of God.
>>530094397> Israeli and US deaths are at 12 and 6lol yeah bro sure
>>530096780Yet we are still bombing them. That means we have a presence there.
>>530096735>The Jews and the Iranians are claiming things without proof, and you're uncritically believing the Jews. No need to dress it up.And the Americans have refuted their claims via CentCom, namely that the Lincoln was struck. I'm asking why none of the US/Israeli claims have been independently refuted. How hard are my questions to understand?
>>530096866You will die, and go to Hell. Anri-christ shitters. I have seen your works. You will burn in Hell.
>>530096848Do you have proof otherwise? That is the point of this thread. >>530096834You have to answer for your actions this evening. I pray for you.
>>530096780Have to imagine this has a terrible effect on relationships with the Gulf countries. It's been proven the US cannot protect them, their bases are more a liability than anything, their economies are being ruined.
>>530096880All anti-christ will go to Hell. Suffering eternal damnation with no salvation.
>>530096919No I won't. God loves me and will not send me to Hell.
>>530095944But the military info is not controlled by the liberals, how much actual info do you have on the operations ? Basically 0. On the Iranian side is hard to know too, as it seems they do r have Internet. Just remember last time when Bibi got all pissed bc people were posting pictures of the iron dome and the missiles that actually went through. >>530095869Well, the same applies, why do you believe your government is not lying to you, when they have lied and deceived the rest of the world ? It is easier when you see the real winner of this war is Lockheed Martin and co, and maybe damaging China... But it would be very dumb to believe that this benefits you as an individual somehow. If you are just a warmonger mongoloid supermacist then you are no better than those references to barbaric tribes you often like to pinpoint and call uncivilized.
>>530094397>Germany and Japan won the second world war because the allies had more casualties
>>530097020You hate God, and hurt the people of God. You will burn in Hell.
>>530096987This not the first time. He has done this at least twice before. I know because I was in those threads watching him make such claims.
>>530094701It's not even libshits doing it, it's all third worlders.
>>530097096I have been here since forever you newfags cunt piece of shit.
>>530097068How do I hurt the people of God?
judeoamerican media are not allowed to report their real losses lol
>>530097218By lying, hurting, bombing and killing them.
>>530097246>Implying Muslims are God's chosen peopleMohamed is a false prophet.
>>530097026>Well, the same applies, why do you believe your government is not lying to you, when they have lied and deceived the rest of the world ?If they are lying then surely it is easily disproved, immaterial to my belief in their accuracy? I am reporting their figures and ask that, if they are lying, why haven't they been discredited or refuted by anyone but the Iranians? This isn't even "burden of proof", this is asking "Someone is clearly lying, so which is it?"
>>530097235The real losses according to Pakistani and Senegalese twitter accounts right?
>>530097026>he think there are no liberal in the military to leak >he doesn't realize the media would pay millions for thislmao of retard, you still have no proof
>>530097305The only chosen ONE of God is Me. Now. The more you talk shit to me, the more cursed you will become.
>>530094905
>>530097337Go look at the casualty in the german hospitol you fucking idiot.
>>530097374Yea, no. I have refused to knowledge your perceived authority and I'm still filled with The Holy Spirit.
>>530097495acknowledge*
>>530096360Lol Romans ? Who the fuck are those... Ah sure, probably those who used the word of Jesus to manipulate population. Such as when they say Allah is great, this is the same case. You are as brainwashed as any other fanatic. Jesus basically cuts the Judeo tradition of the testament and says: wtf, just love each other. Read about his life, not that other garbage. You guys don't seem to understand what it is to give the other cheek, what it is to forgive those who crucify you. You just follow some idiotic biblical words, that's how they weaponize your faith. Don't be and idiot anon and act out of love as the so called Christ you adore would have done, not what they force you to repeat at Sunday school to take your church tax.
>>530097495You rejected the word of God, and my authority as the chosen One.
>>530097563I hope you are trolling because you are digging yourself a deep grave.
>>530097639I have seen God. I am the chosen one of God. All anti-christ will go to Hell.
>>530097682You are determined to go through with this farce, aren't you?
>>530096880Because you are in USA, of course they want your population believing something, no ?
>>530097718I am merely speaking the Truth. That's who I am.
>>530097770Can you give a sign? Even Christ gave evidence through miracles.
>>530097817In all Heaven and EarthIn all that existed and will exist for all of EternityI, alone, am the chosen ONE of God.
>>530094397>3 Ukrainians dead> 5 billion Russians deadWe've heard these lies before, kike.
>>530097844>Can't offer any proof. He just continues to ramble on like a mad man.
>>530095172I think it’s fair to say both sides are lying.
>>530097920>44Flip a coin.
>>530094397Iranian deaths are pretty low as of now. I think technically still lower than 9/11? Everyone can walk away from this a winner as long as the fundamentalists are ousted from power.
>>530095172>"They don't need to proof. You will just have to accept!"Your desperate to believe them.
>>530097933You are the one who keep lying like a cunt. Stupid bitch think he can fool the world.
>>530097969Okay then
>>530098044>44I win
>>530098140I didn't flip though.
Blah blah blah kike super-sonic multi-warhead projectile goes WOOSHWOOSHWOOSH WOOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSH WOOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSH WOOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSH WOOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSH WOOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSH WOOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSH WOOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSH WOOOSHWOOSHlol
>>530098164You lost, and you will keep losing. How does it feel to be on the losing side?
>>530098236>Indian logic.>"You lose because I say so."
>>530094639Answer me this. If hardly any israelis or US soldiers have died. Then why did Israel sign into law that they are banning all footage of the carnage of the missiles, of the defense systems in action, and of the news on the situation. Any posters would face the full force or the law.What possibly could be the reason for this.Next, why is it the US government is working overtime to hide and censor any information regarding the status of its navy. They are already pissed about the f15 footages going around.Lastly iran is also currently in internet blackout.NONE of the information regarding this conflict is accurate and your a guillible nigger or a shill sucking kike cock if you believe the (((narrative))).The state of these actors is far more severe than what you think
>>530098044Checked, we talking to the new profet :0
>>530098370>Godless ANTIFA weighing in
>>530098268You have to lie about such stupid shit. Of course. You are a fucking loser.The strong has no need for lie.
>>530094397If you kill your enemies, they win. So by leaf metric the USA is losing.
>>530098434What have I lied about?
>>530098471About you winning?
>>530098434>Has no need for lieESL detected.
>>530098353Thank you for putting it in words this fucking Kid can understand. Such a fucking shame the level of sheepness that runs now.
>>530098353It federal law that military agencies have 4 hours to report a casualty, any leaker would be protected by whistle blower law and make million leaking the info to the media.
>>530098535>pickin grammarAnother sign of weakness. Shameful display.
>>530098425I did first communion, didn't confirmed bc I realized that church and religion are two different things. You relationship with God should be personal anon, don't let they weaponize your faith.
>>530098606>pickinStrike 2
>>530098663>keep pickin on grandmaThis is all you have. What a fucking loser. Name me a single victory you have in this war, I dare you.
>>530098425You gotta admit the 44 prediction he pulled there was pretty dope, you prolly shitting up your pants rn.
>>530098651It is, I know I am saved, and I have The Holy Spirit dwelling inside me.
>>530098729I am making you mad. That is a victory.
>>530094397TKD
>>530098790Yeah, sure. In this entire war, the only victory you have is making me mad.
>>530098879The war is not over yet.
>>530095039>America needs Gulf oil, China doesn't.USA is a net exporter of oil. We are self sufficient.
>>530098925It has already been decided by the Almighty God.
>>530098735What is your opinion of other religions, or of others who don't believe the same as you ? Of people of color, of people of other countries, of people who bother you, what is your opinion ? Answer me this, and tell me again if you are saved.
>>530094540The US gets like 5% of its oil from the gulf. All of that shit goes to Asia. In fact, if Iran closes the gulf, US oil stocks go through the roof because it's the USA or Russia.
>>530094397>OUR government would never lie to its own people!>THEIR government tells nothing but lies!>OUR media would never be spread lies to cover its own government!>THEIR media is only a propaganda puppet!
Flip a coin.
>>530099091Flipin
>>530094639>What is 2 + 2 and don't you dare say 4
>>530098602>federal law>He thinks trump gives a shit about law aside from what benefits himlollmao
>>530098979Honestly? We live in a free will universe. I can tell them about God and His works, but forceful conversion is not the answer. If only the Muslims thought that way instead of killing people that disagree with them.>>530099151He did not make his prediction. Now he will say that he was right all along.
>>530094397>Israeli and US deaths are at 12 and 6, respectively?lol, this is jewkranians vs russians all over again. 5 million russians death vs 40,000 ukranians
Daily humiliation ritual.
>>530098353So then why was Snowden not protected by whistleblower law? Sounds like it doesn't work
>>530099272Anon. I think he is just trolling you really hard :')As of the other question, I am raised Catholic, not Christian, so I believe more in compassion in the end I guess. I think you should have a look on how Christian am is being used in the USA to create a cultural distinction and an idological disruption towards other cultures, which is exactly what Jesus preached against of. I really hope you are able to love more and see that sadly, the USA is acting against humanity. If God created us all, it means we are all the sons of God, the idea of chosen people is a political discourse used to create enemies. You hold no enemies anon, is the same case for the Muslims you are pointing.
>>530098953That doesn’t mean the price won’t rise. Oil is fungible. And oil people aren’t going to sell oil at fifty when they can get one fifty
>>530099613I am aware I have a temper problem and I am trying to curb that.
>>530094898Don't make threats if you can't back them up.
>>530094397Iran's allies run a full disinformation campaign and even have faggots on here shilling for them and making anti-America threads where they spread fake news because the reality of the war is that Iran got its front and back door blown out.
>>530099712The term you are looking for is bluffing
>>530099664Fair anon, we all humans in the end. Just remember you are way more similar in many ways to any other working class person in the world than those who govern and uses the masses for their own will. Governments are bullshit, lobism is the clear evidence of it. Have a good evening.
>>530094397My negro, this is THE war. The big one. The one theyve been trying to instigate for decades. The war by the top of the top nations with full control over the msinstream media. They're not going to be telling the truth. The only truth they will be telling are the ones that either make them look good, or the ones they absolutely cannot hide anymore. It is absolutely disasterous for morale if you admit to your losses.
You know why iran will lose?Because the US knows how to make friendsLOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
>>530099556because snowden release everything, not just what the government was doing illegaly but tons of information that was legitimately protected and classified. He did not review the information or just leak the wrong doing he literally just dumped every single piece of information he had access to.
>>530099929>It is absolutely disasterous for morale if you admit to your losses.Only a problem for sissy bitch who are afraid of Death.
>>530099929>Iran has been around 47 years>Trump is the 47th presidentThere is no way he does not see the symbolism in that
>>530099254trump doesn't have to give a shit buddy, leaks happen all the time.
>>530100099You don't have any real friend. All your military base are gone, and the contryman will cheer for it.
>>530094397Think of the cascading effects of oil being over $120 for an extended period of time. Yes, the oil barons get rich, but everyone else pays more and gets poorer and the economy contracts as a result. A few dead mutts doesn't change that. The Iranian regime's job is to hang on
Turdies can't cope with the over-match it reminds me of pub stomping before skill based matchmaking and auto team balance.
>>530100321Donald J Trump is a coward who refuse to speak the Truth.
>>530094397>How is Iran claiming any sort of victorythis often happens when you're a kike and you don't understand morals and moral victories.
>>530100275>saar no friend saar yore contrymsn saaryou're not even meant to have internet access, you should be banging rocks together on a dirt road, it's your purpose
>>530100572I am the chosen ONE of God. The One and only. This entire world belongs to Me.
>>530100572Hey he's had a long shift at the dust factory todayThose rocks don't smash themselves
>>530100764Keep mocking the poor. Soon enough. All of your mockery will return to you.To dust you come, and to dust you will return.
>t? Surely there would be families of the deceased who haven't heard from their loved ones for over a week willing to say as much?say that tho whom?uncertainty is no newsworthy story.not to mention big news is intertwined with zog.
>>530094639He pretty much answered it.Iran might not win in the sense of defeating the US military, but as it currently stands the US has accomplished nothing except wasting money. If the US wastes billions and pulls out without changing Iran's regime, then we lost.
>>530098140damn
>>530094397Iran's victory is its own surviving.You are trying to destroy their civilization, they are defending.If they survive they win.
>>530102963So what do you mean by survive? Serious Question. Are you referring to regime change?
>>530101031killing their leader what worth every billion
>>530103772I am referring to not be balcanized nor to become vassals.
>>530094397Closing the straight is a global game changer many have known about for over 20 years.
>>530105120How much for Netanyahu? In that case blank check.
>>530103772If this war ends with iranians in control of iran, they've won the war
>>530106649That's it, closing the straight has done it --BOOM BOOM -- and that's all they needed to -- BOOM -- do in order to -- BOOM -- win, sorry I can't talk with the sound of the USAF doing bombing raids leveling -- BOOM BOOM -- Tehran... my bad...
>>530094397America wouldn't be hiring for full time and long term contracts to handle dead soldiers personal effects, and shutting down maternity wards in European military hospitals if only 12 Americans died (and a greater number were injured).
>>530106878Wars are not won like thiseither invasion or nukes.Germany increased war production at the height of or bombing's in ww2. which was a smaller area and we had more munitions and support back then.
>>530107333You're simply correct but it doesn't mean Iran is winning. we have yet to invade and we don't have to be in a hurry to do so.
>>530094397>why doesn't the jew media go against jew agenda and what's good for the jews? you're a fucking faggot.
look how sad the regular liberal politicians are that their country is kicking ass and killing people who have explicitly stated they want to kill us over and over for decadesits almost like they too want death to america
>>530106763So what do you think is the goal of Trump and Israel? Put non Iranians in charge?
>>530107373If we invade it will be the worst decision a modern US govt ever committed to. Virtually no war support for Jews and Epstein Pedos i watched as his support base around me in red country evaporated.
>>530094397Militarily, it can't. There's just a lot of ai slop and bluffing on that front, only low iq retards like a lot of /pol/ buy into them being competent at fighting the US physically. Where they could prese t a challenge is economically. Fucking with the strait, launching drones doesn't require ships, etc. Fucking with global oil is basically their hail Mary attempt at winning out or making the US retreat. After the first few days they stopped really attempting to go for US casualties and focused on places like the UAE to maximize economic fallout. I think it's a fair strategy given their position isn't all that good. But personally I would've bet it all on striking a carrier, 4 figure death count off the bat would have put the US in enough political turmoil that they wouldn't be able to continue. Not that I would be rooting for it, but strategically I think it would've been better. The economic damage being sustainable is more of a gamble than the reaction to a large figure of deaths in a needless conflict, imo.
>>530094397Israel and the US bombed school girls. The world hates them. Not only does world hate them, the citizens of Israel and the US, by and large, also hate their government at this point. I’m on this board daily, and from what I see, the majority of Americans here are rooting for Iran. That’s a sad commentary on how bad things have gotten.
>>530107593Just doesn't matter, bitch. Iran is going down.
5 f-15s down in 7 days from “””friendly fire””” tells you all you need to know that the admin is severely hiding casualties/losses/damage and is just going to keep lying. Thinking every government hides casualties during war except yours is fucking retarded.All the deaths btw were from ONE base in Kuwait. Iran has bombed 27 installations housing troops. All it takes is the US never searching the rubble to “postpone” casualty count.
>>530107853>"Iranians actually killed 6 million Americans!"
>>530094397If we don't report our death count then it stays the same o algoI hit translate on a hebrew tweet and it went like '32 people died today, how much longer are we gonna take this!!'
>>530094397>How is Iran claiming any sort of victory when Israeli and US deaths are at 12 and 6, respectively?Are you truly this dumb you accept the narrative? With all the evidence to support it being completely meaningless and lacking any necessary connection to reality? The war happens on your fucking screen, and when you pay at the pump. Unless you are dropping a bomb or getting a bomb dropped on, it doesn't happen otherwise. Casualties a simultaneously infinite and infinitesimal.
>>530107726I wasn't disagreeing with that assessment, I'm just saying their goal is probably to cause economic turmoil, since they can't present a physical threat to their enemies. Were that to be their goal every jump in the price of oil could be considered a "win" for as long as it holds. I mentioned it only works as long as the effect is sustainable, but that's unlikely to last as the rest of the middle east looks for solutions, and they continue to see their drones and missile stockpiles depleted by bombs. Iran is just as much on the clock as the US here as the war continues.
>>5301077262 more weeks
>>530107558>So what do you think is the goal of Trump and IsraelI've got no idea what their goal is, do you? Does anybody?
>>530094397asymetrical warfare. Look it up and then understand that Iran is a master of it. Solemani who we assinated literally perfected it and now you are seeing the fruits of his labor. Iran has decentralized command structure similar to Russias dead mans hand. They can operate with all of their leadership assasinated. You dont have to believe me but its cope to think otherwise based of their response to being attacked. They responded withing 90 minutes of the Ayotallas assination with missiles and drones to every base in the region and Isreal. Supposedly US has total air dominance over Iran and they are almost out of missiles and have 1 launcher left taht they have to tote around on a goat but somehow Iran is still launching directed effective strikes on all US allies in the region. I wonder who is lying more.
>>530094397Iran just destroyed the Epstein Moon base and captured the goy files Iran just sank the entire US Navy, while Hez ollah has reached the outskirts of Tel AvivIt is so Joeover, Ameriburgsrs
>>530094397It’s basically next to impossible to know what the fuck is going on. Iran claims one thing, US another, faggot baiters online another, AI everywhere between faggots using Sora and probably tons of other paid disinfo gov shills. It’s not just hard to know, it’s exhausting. Probably the best thing to do is follow local independent news sources.
>>530108208Qasem Soleimani was the head of the IRGC that the US asassinated in 2020. He set up all of the IRGC command structure you are seeing endure US bombardment and continue to strike back. He is literal master of asymetrical warfare and Iran has this all planned out and they are now in a position where they just have to survive to win. No matter how many conventional losses they take they can lose EVERY battle the will still win the war. Khamenei was just a figure head a religions leader, killing him turned him into a Martyr but he wasnt even running the IRGC.
>>530094905You are a rube who doesn't understand supply shocks.You also don't understand that mass investment in EVs alongside non-fossil fuel energy makes China more resilient to oil price fluctuations. You additionally don't understand that the US expends more barrels of oil per unit of GDP than basically anywhere else on Earth and is uniquely vulnerable to petroleum price spikes.
>>530108464Sounds pretty kino. So taking that guy out was entirely justified and they basically had to? How do they even know he’s so cracked? The decentralized military does seem pretty interesting
>>530108464>He is literal master of asymetrical warfarespent all his military career fighting parties much weaker and smaller than Iranwestroid supporters of Axis Trannies are retarded as the kike's golems
>>530094397asymetrical warfare. Its the reason the US will win every battle but lose the war. Because every win is an aysmetrical loss at the same time and the US cannot afford to take unending asymetrical losses. An example Assinating Khamenei and 43 of IRGC leadership in a single strike is a huge conventional warfare win but its also a HUGE asymetrical loss for the US as Khameni was just a relgious figure head he wasn't even running IRGC. Iran had set it up so that if US killed him during Ramadan it would Martyr him and unite Iran and the rest of Islam against the US and Isreal. Every win for the US is an assymetrical loss and the only way they can conventionally win is by invading Iran boots on the ground which is EXACTLY what Iran wants them to do.
>>530095869> the American and world mediaThe ones that told you Covid was real, those ones? kys faggot
>>530108148It's a few things. One: enforce a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz, which they have done according to laws and customs of war so far. Two: demolish American radars and other sensors in the middle east to degrade ISR. Three: turn American bases into a liability rather than protection for Gulf States, encouraging them to boot Americans out of the region.They seem capable of accomplishing all of these, and there's no indication that Operation Ebin Furry can stop this once we get down to the brass tacks of this. We will run out of precision munitions before Iran runs out of ballistic missiles and drones. Even if they run out of drones and missiles first (they won't), they can still mine the strait. And minesweeping is enormously expensive and time consuming.Basically Trump, Hegseth, Palmer Luckey, et al have learned absolutely nothing from the last 4-8 years.
>>530108705 He is the reason the IRGC was able to strike back within 90 minutes of Khamenei being killed and have missiles and drones saturating every US base the region and Isreal and their decentralized command structure. He also worked close with the Russians. The results speak for themselves.
>>530108208It's not even particularly assymetric in the insurgency sense people usually use it. The USAF and IAF have proven incapable of DEAD and are struggling with SEAD. They can't actually knock out the TELs for the ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. The US is simply losing a conventional war.
asymetrical warfare. Doesn't work when the enemy is a coalition of armiesLOL LOL LOL LOL Fucking retards.iran by throwing missiles at everything and anything, has made enemies of all its neighbors.LOL LOL LOL LOLMind you this type of warfare has been done several times. And each time the defending nation loses. Because when you're unable to keep ur enemy's aircraft out of your airspace.Everything is open.So yes iran keep lobbing missiles and drones like retards.The US can keep up bombing for a while. Centcom may run out, but US has so many different commands to pull resources from. That it's nothing.Keep celebrating these small wins retards. Its funny
>>530110138Mind you if you take a look at most of the videos of the "destroyed bases" its more like small minor explosions. A supposed hypersonic missile exploding next to a person should destroy that person, and the buildings they are filming from.ROFL LOL LOL LOL
When an enemy is 100% infiltrated. The enemy cannot win.Israel and America has infiltrated the armed forces, the political sector of iran.LOL LOL LOLThey know everything about iran. And keep killing leaders who should have a security detail, that is able to keep quiet.LOL LOL LOLiran has been infiltrated 100%.LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LO LLORLORLOLRLOLRLROLFOL
>>530110555If the next Ayatollah gets killed. You think the shills will say it was a freak coincidence?
>>530110933Most def. LOLL OL LOL LOLThey have no clue how divided iran really is.LOL LOL LOL LOL LOLThey really think the irgc has the full support of the iranian people.They have no clue of the ethnic diversity that pervades iran from west to east, north to south.LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
America never loses on the battlegroundAmerica only loses at the gas pump
>>530094397they are under attack by a golem army. they win, if they survive.
>>530094397> Israeli and US deaths are at 12 and 6,If you believe this you are incredibly retarded. I’ll spell it out because your IQ is about 90. Right now US soldiers are being shoveled into the hospital in Germany dead or alive. For the dead ones, their families will soon be notified by CIA dressed as military police in dress uniform. They will be handed a pile of cash and a man in a suit will come into the room and threaten them if they tell anyone their kid is dead. They will be under 24/7 surveillance. This will go on for the next 6 months. Your tax dollars will pay for this
>>530095012Who gives a fuck about some dead niggers, how about you count how many bases the US has left operating in the region?
>>530108152>building on the left got hit so hard it turned into a swastika
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>>530094397>How is Iran claiming any sort of victorythe goal of the jew attack on iran was to change the government of iranas of today, Iran's government remains unoustedthus, jews have not won, which means that iran is winning
>>530094397oh ok. Please stfu now faggot pie.How could you possibly know the actual death toll ?#FuckingImbecile.America & Israel the 2 biggest gaslighting liars in the solar system.... Please, stfu & kys tonight.
>>530096222Checked, and there's the missus
I realized I was wasting my time posting anything on /pol/ long ago, but on the off chance OP is intelligent and not baiting I will post a simple answer.Causalities are irrelevant. If casualties were the metric for victory then Germany won against the Russians in WW2.Even material loss can be irrelevant since different nations can fight wars according to different strategies and with different end goals. Also as other posters have said, the information you receive from the media is not to be trusted. No one really knows the state of the military situation at the moment, even the top commanders are probably operating in the dark in many areas. That is how it goes in war.I strongly recommend watching Perun's channel. He is one of the few military analysts I trust, even though he's a fucking Australian. He has nothing on the Iran war at the moment but has made videos in the past giving an overview of Iran's capabilities, weaknesses, and strategies.But is you have the attention span of a goldfish then don't bother becasue he goes into the details at length.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy95hMoMhrY
>>530112207>"Here is how Iran can still win."What happened to driving the US from the Middle East? You shills were pretty adamant that would happen. What changed?>>530112654As long as the US can bomb Iran the war is still going.>INB4 showing videos of a plane crash.Yea, last i checked that is not enough to slow down the air strikes.
>>530094397>The Pentagon has become this guy
>>530099050This but unironically
>>530113452US style post modern corporate internet stuff has made people here less intelligent over the past 20 years, in my opinion. Just the fact that the Iranians haven't grown up with that as much alone is kind of scary. Thinking that kids are retarded is sort of a normal conceit for an older person to have but holy fuck. Not that the Islamic State is better but I'm worried bro.
>>530094397>Israeli and US deaths are at 12 and 6Because your enemy isn't bombing schools and hospitals. That really gets the numbers up for baal
>>530094397soldiers don't speak to their families on a weekly basisit's also very easy for their general to claim they're "busy"
>>530114451I used to think people were crazy or playing pretends when they talk about weird fat little government people shilling for internet points from Tel Aviv. I used to think it was cowardly to be careful with what you say on the internet. I used to think OP sometimes wasn't a retarded faggot. I used to think lots of things. That guy is an Israeli gentleman/person
>>530094397Oy vey
>browns and leftoids seething and coping>the current ruler of the world keeps massacring upSet all the goals you want, killing you is the main objective.
>>530094397This is good stuff watch it with sound /pol/https://x.com/i/status/2030012038345314458
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>>530096455>Ephesians 4:31-32>Just turn de cheek goy!Nah all commies belong in a mass grave
>>530094540but... like... how though?how does that mean they win?what do they "win" exactly?
>>530113943>What happened to driving the US from the Middle East?you did it yourself. gulf will approach china for protection after you started a war for israel and use them as shield for israel instead of protecting them. and we will do same for obvious reason (pic related). there will be chinese bases instead of american ones in few decades in mena. wait and see.
>He doesn't know about all the hidden deaths and injured transfersHey, this criminal rapist regime is lying to you, there is evidence all over the place.
>>530115809>In a few decades2 more weeks, rightTurk?
>>530115809>gulf will approach china for protectionYou are fucking retarded and delusional. The gulf arab allies align with the west. They are a bit tepid because of Israel but you would be wrong if you thought they would ever be against the west. Good luck with your retarded delusional fantasy, you're in a God damn NATO country for fucks sake.
