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If the market believed that the US would "win" their war against Iran treasury yields would be dumping right now. Instead they are spiking since the days of the attack. Makes you think.
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>>530106413
Lmao imagine actually thinking the US would "lose" against some sand dwellers with 50 year old tech. Treasury yields are spiking because smart money knows Iran is about to get glassed into the stone age. Trump doesn't lose wars, he wins them. Stay coping, Hajji
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>>530106413
ya wars drive economies
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>>530106413
They Jews have already cashed out, whatever the market is now is just dumb goys fighting each other.
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>>530106413
The futures have been awful ever since liberation day for a reason, they think the US is imploding
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>>530106606
>>530106693
You guys don't seem to understand how this works. This graph represents the amount you have to pay to take on more debt. And your whole system hinges on taking on more debt. NUMBER GOES UP is bad in this case.
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>>530106606
>Treasury yields are spiking because smart money knows Iran is about to get glassed into the stone age.

Why are you increasing bond returns if everyone is investing money in bonds?

You pay more expensive insurance if you live in a more expensive city, not cheaper.
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>>530106413
WTF is a treasury yield?
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>>530106413
Astute observation
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>>530106892
see >>530106822
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>>530106413

The US will win the war cause they are coming in with a proper mind set. We don't need a Democracy, we need a business partner that won't work against us or cause us to have to drop everything to come there every few years, move all our shit there and do a few bombing runs or give a bribe. Inside of 5 years with war will have paid for itself and that doesn't even take into account once Iran is fully rebuilt and supplying us with energy on a better than market deal.
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>>530106922
Yeah, but WTF is a treasury yield? WTF is a future? Why does economics have to be so retarded? Just call all of this shit a bet and be done with it, because that's all it is, a casino for billionaires, bankers, and royal families. It's fucking stupid like all gambling is.
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>>530107089
Stay in school.
>>530107104
Yields spiking is BAD, frogbro.
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>>530106413
That's just Brownian motion.
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>>530107238
Markets are only a gaussian random walk as long as demand and supply are static. Demand is shifting.
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>>530107237
>Stay in school.
Fuck you, it's all bullshit and everyone knows it now. None of this shit matters, every nation's economy is collapsing, everyone's in debt up to their eyeballs because retards that run economies keep betting on debt using debt.
Fractional reserve banking and stock markets are bullshit and always have been bullshit.

Debt shouldn't even exist. No one should be able to buy something unless they can pay for it in gold/silver/etc on demand. That goes for EVERYONE.
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>>530107415
Explain to them that shifts in bond yields, even small, indicate change in market preference. They'll probably be confused that a shift in bond yield of 0.05 or 0.1 is a big deal (especially when it happens so fast). Most people on /pol/ are teenagers, and they haven't had the chance to invest yet.

Also, answer me this: if money is leaving the US bond market, where is it going? The S&P500 is declining. Energy stock is risky. Crypto and PMs are collapsing.

Where is the money going?
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>>530106413
Explain it to me like you're not a retard.
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>>530107415
Just Brownian motion bud
If you keep zooming in you'll see different trends
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>>530107089
>because that's all it is, a casino for billionaires, bankers, and royal families

Bonds are not a casino, everything else is.

Bond is what you invest in "as the standard investment", and their return is often approximate to your nation's Central Bank's interest rates. You are effectively competing with banks in buying government debt, which buy in the so-called interbank market, where they buy it for the official Fed interest rate. Since you are competing with them, you earn a bit less.

The reason why these returns are so pitiful and barely above inflation it is because Bonds are theoretically the safest investment in the economy, so fluctuations tend to be small and indicative of major developments.

When bond yields go down, it means there a lot of money going in buying government debt, which means optimism and trust in the government (or pessimism towards every other option). When bond yields go up, it means the government wants more investors, so it increases returns on bonds.

Currently, bond yields are going up, which means a consistent shift of distrust towards the US government in short term.

Now, (Level 2) of difficulty:

There are short term and long term bonds. Both pay pitiful amounts, but they indicate the rare risk that the gov will fail to pay back the back. When the long term yield is falling and short term yield is falling (the reversed bond yield curve pattern), it refers that the market is predicting a major crisis soon.

Hopefully this helps.
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>>530107603

To Israel of course
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>>530108032
>Now, (Level 2) of difficulty:

>There are short term and long term bonds. Both pay pitiful amounts, but they indicate the rare risk that the gov will fail to pay back the back. When the long term yield is falling and short term yield is falling (the reversed bond yield curve pattern), it refers that the market is predicting a major crisis soon.

>Hopefully this helps.

iGNORE THIS final part, I am drunk and mistyped it.
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>>530106606
>trump doesn’t lose wars

You already lost
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>>530108032
Would you buy someone's debt from them? No, of course you wouldn't, because it's fucking stupid. Debt itself is stupid. What kind of fucking idiot goes into debt?
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>>530108306
Property, precious metals and other countries.
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>>530106413
I am very coooncerned. Cooortisol spiked.
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Should have been at 10% since March 2020 across all maturities. People should not let the Fed and also the other central banks get away with the counterfeiting anymore.
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>>530106822
the debt isnt real
no credit has ever been applied
its literally babylonian voodoo
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>>530107415
mr.Kraut, could this be because the US government is borrowing heavily to spend on the war faster than people are dumping the bonds?



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