Say hi to the 3rd Thaad battery that got shoa'd today.According to Israel the economic damage alone, not counting the military expenditure and what Iran is blowing up, is costing nearly 4B per day, imagine how much Trump is spending.Ofc merifats will pay for everything as always.
>>530106443THAADs are the best anti missile tech in the world, and in limited supply, so this is a huge L
>>530106443>Ofc merifats will pay for everything as always.that suggests Israel will still exist. Which is increasingly unlikely since they now have next to zero air defense.
>>530106443the radars are paid for by the gulf states.so this is good for Trump and Raytheon bros, they will now receive more orders from saudis etc. and GDP goes up.
>>530106443Another interesting thing is this propaganda shot of a B52 flying from Iraq. Notice that it's loaded with AGM-158 JASSM that means that despite carpet bombing Iran without any regard for collaterals, for a whole fucking week, they still don't have aerial superiority.
$500 million radar now going for $500 scrap
>>530106565>THAADs are the best anti missile tech in the world, and in limited supply, so this is a huge LThere's only 1 THAAD radar left in the regionThey're out of interceptors anyway. Iran is going to be able to obliterate Israel with their lawnmower drones soon.
Source of pic?
>>530106662>$500 millionThat's an often reported number which means it's intentionally low. I would bet it's at least twice that much.
>>530106443lol the US spent I don't know how many trillion USD on the Iraq war and it was like the equivalent of your or me buying a McD burger.
>>530106795Economically we are a far different country now than we were 25 years ago.
>>530106645>more orders for billion dollar shit that was rekt within days Doubt
>>530106443Iran has deep underground facilities, they thought about this for decades and not every country can do this because of seismic activity.If Hitler moved everything underground they would have been unstoppable.
>>530106647>Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile >aerial superiority?
WHICH ONE OF YOU ASSHOLES STUCK A SHAHED IN MY ASSHOLE
>>530106443Source?
>>530106565>>530106664It was kinda wild for me learning how bad missile defense is in the real world compared to some games I play where you can design missiIesMuch better interceptors are possible I guess wagies just suck at engineering compared to based neetsAlso weird they haven’t taken inspiration from the ones in games that actually work and can take down missiles
USA air defence system barely work China can destroy Taiwan military with air bombing without worry, lmao!!!
>>530106903what are saudis gonna do?buy from russians or china? manufacture the radars themselves?they cant really do any of that, mutts own them and can tell them "buy the shitty radars or else..." and they will comply.for Saudis this is not even that expensive, 1 billion for them is nothing.
>>530106948These are stupidly expensive "dumb" bombs. We are absolutely blowing our load because...?
>>530106664Insane levels of cope. Are you going to kill yourself when iran surrenders next week?
>>530106443That's the first and only one, if you're seeing the pic is because centcom confirmed
>>530106948It's an anti-air-defense missile, it locks onto radar. You don't need to lock onto radar on the ground if you have air superiority.
>>530106565When the north beat the south in the american civil war this created an inherent bias in their military doctrine. For americans and for most westerners who want to suck up to them, more tech = better. They are very quick to forget that anything can be saturated and destroyed if you throw enough vectors at it this is a mentality that countries like Russia and Iran have. You win by being more adaptable and creative not by having the shiniest toy.>>530106570That's why they have the samson option Besides Israel just fired at Turkey and Azerbaijan trying to blame Iran. This war is spinning out of control by the minute.If Trump had any balls he would call victory, sell Bibi's position to Iran and fuck off back to the US and in that case all eyes would be on Israel and if they moved any of their nukes your airforce would do a prehemptive strike. But sadly he is a boomer shabbos goy.
>>530107066no, because that's not going to happen praktyush
>>530106647This photo is old, ABUs have been phased out since 2021.
>>530107058I'm wondering what using a JASSM bomb has to do with aerial superiority.
>>530107066Post your suicide letter when you end up being wrong.
>>530106565And we're going to cannibalize Europe and Asia and ruin our relations with them in this retarded and pointless war. At this point, an Iranian-made artificial sun igniting over Tel Aviv would bring us closer to world peace.
>>530106751>>530106795The issue isn't so much the cost as that it can't really be replaced any time soon. It will take a long time to build more.
>>530106994>Much better interceptors are possible I guess wagies just suck at engineering compared to based neetsIntercepting missiles with missiles is fucking retarded. Laser air defense is much better (but mostly only useful against cruise missiles right now).Ballistic missiles are a tough nut to crack and even THAAD wasn't designed for saturation tactics, they were built to stop nuke carrying missiles, not dozens of conventional warheads with penetration aids and decoys.
>>530106994>Much better interceptors are possible I guess wagies just suck at engineering compared to based neetsvideo games don't simulate a lot of factors that throw off ballistics calcuations
>>530107180They're stealth cruise missiles. If we had air superiority we would be using true dumb bombs right now. Or we're just blowing our load with expensive toys because... idiocy?
>>530106994At the end of the day, missile interception is about as difficult as trying to block a bullet with another bullet. At most, they act as damage reduction rather than prevention, and they only work for a short time before they innevitably get taken out or run out of munitions. I mean look at Russia and Ukraine, Russia is widely considered to have the best air defenses in the world and yet Ukraine pretty consistantly manages to sneak through a few drones or missiles every now and then despite that. General rule of warfare has always been quantity > quality and this is no different.
>>530107066The US has already locked them into a fight to the death. They couldn't surrender if they wanted to.
>>5301064431. Any armaments spent were already purchased, they cost nothing the cost has already been applied.2. The cost of these armaments are fake, we print money, we produce the armaments ourselves, this stimulates our economy.3. You live in a shit mud hut why the fuck are you concerned with this at all improve your own situation first you favela dwelling ape.
>>530106795No it wasn't. The US credit rating was literally downgraded because of it's shitty spending.
>>530107129>That's why they have the samson optionnuke are fake that's a meme.>This war is spinning out of control by the minute.unironically the best thing for the world is a massive fucking defeat for the US and Israel. >If Trump had any balls he would call victory, sell Bibi's position to Iran and fuck off back to the US and in that case all eyes would be on Israel and if they moved any of their nukes your airforce would do a prehemptive strike.Trump should have declared victory after the Ayatollah but he's in a tough spot because any attack would have led to the attacks on US bases (which are now so destroyed there are literally no targets left for Iranians to aim at). On the upside most of the middle east bases we have are for the benefit of Israel so their destruction also serves the interests of those seeking the end of Israel. I REALLY hope we don't start escorting tankers through the Strait of Hormuz, that will be a LOT of dead Americans.
>>530107129Is iran winning against superior tech? Is Russia winning against their much smaller and weaker neighbor with their meatgring adaptation technique?
>>530107220>The issue isn't so much the cost as that it can't really be replaced any time soon. It will take a long time to build more.they're next to useless anyway (in a conventional war) and the bases are so fucked I doubt we'll ever rebuild them.
>>530107475>Is iran winning against superior tech?I don't think it's clear we have superior tech.
>>530107475the reduced attacks are largely because there aren't many targets left, the US bases are fucking obliterated, and I don't know if Iran has the stomach to start obliterating civilians targets in Israel.
>>530107475
>>530107598Lol
>>530106980A friend in the region sent me the picture but chinese sat photos of the destruction are all over the internet. >>530107015Soviet/Russian AA was always better. Is not that americans had bad enginners is a matter of focus. The US knew they could out produce the soviets so they focused on the airforce building better fighters and precision munition. Soviets/Russians knew they couldn't go toe to toe with nato in the air so they focused on missiles and area denial with AA. Drones changed that as they are now the perfect mix between precision and saturation attacks. Take the Shaheds for example, they use a very cheap system for sattelite telephones for position triangulation and for targetting they use infrared sensors from old phones and 240p webcam camera over the counter shit that anybody with a manual can build. Don't ask me how I know that btw.
>>530107475I believe it's the fact that they're getting pounded and unable to bring out their toys. In due time they will. Also a severe lack of command structure probably. I think any attempt to drag out stuff from caves will give satellites a hint on where to bomb.They're also just begging for us to invade.
>>530107598The first target of the war was a girls elementary school. Im pretty sure many millions have the stomach to do a lot of bad things.
>>530107679>Lolwhat are you doing on the internet Chaim you should be practicing digging your family out of rubble
>>530107744>The first target of the war was a girls elementary school. Im pretty sure many millions have the stomach to do a lot of bad things.that's satanic kike's thoughPersians aren't evil.
>>530107642Nice source, meanwhile...
>>530107598yet the bombs keep falling on israel. so i guess you need to look a a little harder. red alert btw as of 15 minutes ago.
>>530106565>THAADs are the best anti missile tech in the worldIf it is the best how come it was destroy by a missile hmmmmm?Checkmate MICuck
>>530107475 They don't need to launch so many missiles.Now they can launch just 2-3 missiles at a target and take it out
>>530107693>Take the Shaheds for example, they use a very cheap system for sattelite telephones for position triangulation and for targetting they use infrared sensors from old phones and 240p webcam camera over the counter shit that anybody with a manual can build. Don't ask me how I know that btw.Yeah that Shaheds are pretty fucking sick, like the AK of drone warfareso cheap to build and difficult to defend against it's a technology that makes tyranny not sustainable.
>>530107803This was like day 1.
>>530106443>$4b per dayThat's light work when your money is pretend
>>530107803why even post under a Brazilian flag kike?
>>530107826>If it is the best how come it was destroy by a missile hmmmmm?I think they were destroyed with $1k drones actually lol.
>>530107335You don't produce your own armaments bc your industry has been outsourced and all the rare earth minerals and industrial gasses you needed are controlled either by Russia or their allies. Agree on the dollars being fake but you wre still being taxed for those same fake dollars so in the end it changes nothing>>530107475Yes, Iran is winning. Yes, Russia is winning. War isn't a videogame and I don't have the time to explain to you in detail why both of the things are true. Lurk moar.
>>530106795Well, in the sense that you're a 400lbs whale who spends 2/3rds of his paycheck on food, it kinda was
>>530107240>Intercepting missiles with missiles is fucking retarded. It’s the only thing that works at all but yes at equal cost defense loses>Laser air defense is much better (but mostly only useful against cruise missiles right now).No FalseLaser defense doesn’t work. Well not against anything designed to penetrate laser defenses at least. It might work against unsophisticated attacks >Ballistic missiles are a tough nut to crack and even THAAD wasn't designed for saturation tactics, they were built to stop nuke carrying missiles, not dozens of conventional warheads with penetration aids and decoys.Bro nuclear strikes are saturation tactics not sure what your MIC salesmen were smoking but stoping a ballistic saturation barrage is EXACTLY what interceptors need to do for a nuclear exchange and MIRV spam. >>530107257Some doAnyways the software is straight up superior to the real ones in some of these games and directly applicable you could teleport the intercept slightly with a random number generator like the target used a warp drive to teleport slightly and they would still hit>>530107304More or less but there’s still a huge gap between how good interceptors could be (intercept rates above 90%) and how good they are (intercept rates at 10%)Maybe it’s just NATO I’ve heard reports of Russian air defense indeed getting 90% intercept, like the actual results from many strikes and interceptor launches not just extrapolation or estimationsThe economics are still the same even 100% intercept chance could still be overwhelmed The only benefit interceptors have is they can be smaller and lower ranged
>>530107826They already lost 5 best of the best f-15 fighter planes to own incompetency and Iranian superior tactics.It does matter when then men behind these superior machine are retards.
>>530107764>>530107803I have an idea. What if you attach these missiles to a large drone which takes off out of a secret bases somewhere in the mountains, flies very low for a certain distance in a random direction, then fires the missile and returns to base? It would be almost impossible to find the base unless you get lucky and spot one of the drones.
>>530108006>Laser defense doesn’t work.worked well during the 12 day war. Turned back the kike attack before it got started.
>>530107693Doubt very much russia AA is better, Ukraine has been degrading Russian AA so much that those shitty flamingos are flying straight at Russia unopposed, we have so much footage of S-400 batteries destroyed and just today they took out an 98L6 radar from a brand new S-500 prometeus, and they're doing all of that with cheap drones, that's why ships will always be better, mobility is the key
>>530106647Beacause they have been hitting decoys. Only a retard tries to do regime change out of bombing cities
>>530107764What juicy targets humm
>>530108006>Bro nuclear strikes are saturation tactics not sure what your MIC salesmen were smoking but stoping a ballistic saturation barrage is EXACTLY what interceptors need to do for a nuclear exchange and MIRV spam.THAADs weren't designed to stop soviet saturation nukes, they were designed to protect from rogue states firing single nukes at us. There's no real defense from all out nuclear war at all. *nukes are fake btw.
>>530106443Looks fine. Have they tried turning it off and on again?
>>530107598Correct. Niggers here don't know what a tip-fiddle is. You literally run out of targets and need intel to aquire new ones. Both Iran and the US are at that phase except Iran has underground factories and the US blew up hundreds of cardboard launchers.
>>530106994>MUH ITS LIKE MY GAYMES!
>>530107475>missile counts are wrongKILL YOURSELF>has missile counts for days in the future that haven't happened yetKILL YOURSELF>no source provided, probably IDF propagandaKILL YOURSELF>has been called out multiple times but keeps spamming this retarded imageKILL YOURSELF
>>530108065Missed the part of my post where I said >>530108006>Well not against anything designed to penetrate laser defenses at least.Lasers can be hard countered
>>530106662Soon on Craiglist.
>>5301078033rd video was from iraq. 5th video running was also iraq. oil field one is from 2025. i love ai it can spot bullshit so quickly.
>>530108010>They already lost 5 best of the best f-15 fighter planes to own incompetency and Iranian superior tactics.Kuwait has taken out 3 I thinksome within visual range. may not be accidents.
>>530108144>they were designed to protect from rogue states firing single nukes at us. Ok that makes more sense then>There's no real defense from all out nuclear war at all.I knowBut they didn’t even really try, if America had built hundreds of thousands of THAAD batteries or similar things it might be different
>>530107788Evil enough to put an elementary school right next to a legitimate military target
>>530108133>What juicy targets hummrandom sand dunes are juicy targets? holy kike cope
>>530108006>Some dono i don't think so. which games simulate the wind, weight distribution, variable propulsion, and other small details that cause constant changes in trajectory?
>>530106697The ass of a monkeyMost of what is posted here is a straight up lie
>>530108059>What if you attach these missileswhat if you take someone and strap them onto a rocket then fired it at Tel Aviv?
>>530108059Way easier and cheaper to use a suicide drone in a mass formation. Shahed has a 90kg warhead the Russian Geran has anti jammers a larger warhead and over 2000km range amd you don't need a base to launch just put them in the back of a truck launch and fuck off.
>>530108150>Niggers here don't know what a tip-fiddle isScott Ritter is invaluablehim and Daniel Davis have such fucking INCREDIBLE coverage. Darryl Cooper is killing it too. as bad as the MSM are the podcasts are fucking incredible.
>>530108298Ok schlomoHope you die
>>530106443How much did that cost the US taxpayer?
Why didn't wunderwaffe shoot it down?
>>530106565>best-anti missile tech>gets blown up by missiles
>>530107987Russia is winning but at a pace that'll end up destroying them if it drags on, if you think iran is winning I'm sorry bud, but you need to inform yourself much more, Iran is trying to desperately fight an economic war, they barely made military damage, ended up pissing off all their neighbors, no more navy, air defense, leadership, command and control severely degraded, don't know if the people will start to rise up, but that the regime is very unpopular is a fact, the more they get degraded the more likely the regime will fall, china is also starting to make pressure because they depend too much on the gulf for energy
>>530108267>Evil enough to put an elementary school right next to a legitimate military targetshut up kike you build all your vital military command and control under apartment complexes. Imagine paying for a $7k a month apartment over a Mossad command nodehahahhahahyou fucking kikes are so fucking evil
>>530106994>>530108006What games?
>>530108457>Why didn't wunderwaffe shoot it down?I'm shocked some fucking kike hasn't posted the rods from God yetthey're already following the Ukie shill script
>>530106565we are going to be sending so many ground troopsthis is such a cluster fuckquick reaction forces here we go, deploy away
>>530108393Totally agree.I use the hate spewed against Ritter and Tucker as a truth gauge.
>>530108133>taje 80 minutes to reach iran proper>thinks you can do anything at that pointlmao
>>530108561>we are going to be sending so many ground troopswe can'tdon't have the logistics for itit would fail if we didbut we literally can't.
>>530108080Stupid nigger I could give a fuck about what you doubt or don't doubt. What I'm saying is a statement of fact for anybody who knows anything about war. Oppinions are worth piss and shit. The flamingos are being used in saturation attacks along with decoys and drones the launchers even if they had a 100% hit rate would need to be reloaded and relocated that alone is a huge fucking window to strike. For the last time lurk moar.
>Mutts and muttglowies in FULL DAMAGE CONTROL
>>530108571>I use the hate spewed against Ritter and Tucker as a truth gauge.exactly.
>>530107642That graph doesnt make sense. How are there data points in between the days?There should be only 7 points connected by straight lines.Unless it's telling us they are currently doing 200 strikes per hour or something ridiculous.
>>530108556same group. like if you sit in the shill thread of either country you literally cant tell the difference. though the pig one got silent when kikes got fucking wrecked today in lebanon which was hilarious to run in their face.
>>530108393Based and redpilled.
>>530108597>I could give a fuck that means you care
>>530108400You're a retarded child
>>530108621>>Mutts and muttglowies in FULL DAMAGE CONTROLreally is glorious to see zog so fucking jimmy rustledas disappointed as I am in Trump I'm on cloud 9 watching Zog get absolutely ass fucked.
>>530108468>Russia is winning but at a pace that'll end up destroying them if it drags on,Given that Russia has been choosing the slow pace from early on in the war, this I doubt.
>>530108150Plenty of targets still, the hunt for TELs and bases are happening right now, with air superiority they already started to drop the gbus everywhere, don't think they location of those underground missile bases are not know, Iran went scorched earth and tried to make as much economic damage as they could but it wasn't enough, we had news of close us bases in the region evacuated for weeks before the war, they didn't managed to make much damage, on 6 Kia and some depotshttps://cepa.org/article/iran-us-war-a-race-to-the-bottom/
>>530108590I think the island there in the strait could be occupied if Zion Don follows through with the tanker convoys, would give the Marines a chance to do an actual amphibious landing in combat and the 82nd a paratrooper drop. It would be like Greece in WWII.
>>530108658>same group. like if you sit in the shill thread of either country you literally cant tell the difference. though the pig one got silent when kikes got fucking wrecked today in lebanon which was hilarious to run in their face.100% it's actually amazing how shitty their infowar skills areanons BTFO them 1,000 times a day on every platform.
>>530108757Russia is choosing nothing, that's the only thing they can do, while they lose a huge amount of equipment and men, because at this stage if they stop putin is gonna get the rope
>>530108288>no i don't think so. which games simulate the wind, Most>weight distribution,All engineering games> variable propulsion, None>and other small details that cause constant changes in trajectory?Same probably noneBut what I’m talking about is a difference in design quality, things like high G RCS interceptors (like that thing but better https://youtube.com/watch?v=KBMU6l6GsdM ) are commonplace and the software is betterI don’t know enough about the classified stuff of missiIes but I’m speaking from the footage and my experience The missiIes in the footage just do random nonsense In the video where 2 interceptors miss for instance it looks like they’re targeting a virtual point that’s off the actual target by I would say 30 meters And what’s even weirder is both of them are off in different directionsOne seemingly gets fairly close it hard to tell with perspectiveThe missiles also have bad specs. The acceleration is way to slow the range is too short they’re launched too late etcThat’s an engine design and fuel choice issueThey don’t seem to be high g force high delta v missiIes but basic low quality solid rocket boostersYou speak about unequal thrust and of course it’s a bit problem however consider this: asymmetrical thrust can make an interceptor miss if it’s designed for hard kill. So the engine should be optimized to have the most symmetrical thrust possible that’s common sense A liquid fuel engine with well designed plumbing and no combustion instabilities sin the combustion chamber should have a very smooth exhaust Then add very fast actuators (add mass and potentially cost but a necessary expense) for offset thrust or and RCS blocks (worse performance but allow a missile to side step in 2D) Then you need highly performant softwareA lot of missile IRL apparently use things like proportional guidance or APN guidance which is just like... lmaoOr virtual point + PID
>>530108779lmao.1990s gulf war showed you cant hit a TEL. ever. claim was 300 iraqi TELs were wiped out. investigation in after math found it was a handful not even 20. the TEL can ride out and fire and return to bunker within 10 mionutes. it takes a jet 80 minutes to reach them/ you are stupid to comprehend distances and speeds.
>>530108400You'r a wise adult
>>530108590something is going onfrogs are sending a carriersaudi is getting hitthere might be a coalition build upif we try to gain a foot hold, you're right though - we can't, any base would just get obliteratedthe scale of forces needed to take out iran was not prepped beforehand and they just fucked up
>>530108597You clearly give a fuck if you're getting mad over it, no point in arguing with a monkey and I can't beat you to death online, so we better wait a few days, but I'll make sure to make a thread and call your retarded ass over it soon enough, hope you're prepared :)
>>530108672English is my 3rd language cut me some slack will you.
>>530108792why would we want to capture some random Island the strait of hormuz is closed by threat of missile and drone attacks. Controlling some random Island would do shit and escorting tankers would just result in sunken naval vessels in the strait acting as a more tangible way to shut it down.
>>530106443Money is fake and they'll just print more of it to buy twice as many. Can't print new Iranian leaders.
>>530108779You keep espousing gobbledigook uttered by the mainstream media and the israeli gov, don't you suspect that these figures you're throwing out might just be completely fake, you kike??
>>530108468Jewish and mutt alliance objective: get rid of the Iranian current regime/system and replace it with their own stooge.Not achieved yet.4 days special military operation turned into 4 weeks or maybe 4 months or 4 years of special military operation.Billions in damage due to reduced economic activity per dayBillions in damage due to loss of equipment.Military bases got rekt all over the middle east.Claimed state of the art equipment getting defeated by cheap Iranian drones and missiles not so good for future sales.Meanwhile Iran is losing some old buildings worth few million dollars.Airforce wasn't even in the game.Cheap launchers.The economic cost imposed on Jewish mutt alliance is in favour of Iranians.>>530108779Loss and shame of losing one billion dollar worth radar outweigh the damage caused to hundreds of such facilities.
>>530106948It means that there are still enough air defense systems on the ground in iran that the aircraft have to install those in order to take them out if and when they are encountered. It means they still haven’t cleared out the SAM or radar to a critical degree.>>530107304>>530106994ALL ground-based AA weapons have been for the purpose of lowering the accuracy of the attacker, reducing the time they can stay in the airspace, and freak out the pilot causing him to make mistakes. Also, forces the pilpt to climb or change his altitude frequently. AA has ALWAYS had a very very low kill rate. The iranians have taken out 5 jets with SAM so far, I think 4 US and 1 ISR.
>>530108956Everyone knows the Israelis are sending false flag drones to drag Gulf States into the war. If they did the Arab Street would erupt and it'll be the monarchs who are regime changed. Keep shilling lol
>>530108956>there might be a coalition build upnigga we already lost. citing the frogs as cope should be proof of that to anyone.
>>530108987i know and i understand that, fren just pointing it out
>>530107046Gulf states are considering pulling back from billions worth of US deals including defense now, so masterful high iq war by drump, there's a reason biden and obama didn't start this war even with the jews on their asses
>>530108987Even English speakers get that phrase wrong.
>>530109085yup and it's actually an indication of the desperation of zog.
>>530108752Ummmh, sweety, when i said 'mutts' i mean every citizen of the us, even you! Uh-oh!>puta judiaI didnt vote por sheckelbaum, i didnt vote for any female.
>>530106443The most humiliating aspect of it is that they are being taken out by fucking drones
>>530108556they did yesterday
>>530108215Still count as loss doesn't matter if it's own incompetency or superior Iranian tactics.
>>530109032I thought that years ago but after seeing the browns lying so much about their losses and Israeli claims always being accurate in just accepted, have you seen some of the Iranian claims theses days?
>>530106443They ran out of interceptors days ago, right now they're just paper weights.
>>530109131yupthe good news is it was such a stupid fucking idea Zog's grip on American politics is effectively over. This is the last boomer war. and the world will be better off for it.
>>530109021That's why it's a decentralized command structure. All Trump did was kill an 86 year old with terminal prostate cancer and galvanize the entire country together. If you really want something to criticize here is this exact decentralized structure of the IRGC while very interesting now could very well develop into warlordism and balkanize Iran once the war is over even if they win. That is a massive fucking risk.
>>530108267They didn’t do that. That happened during the attack on the ayatollah
>>530109085>>530109087Its not cope and the anon is right about the false flag in the gulf states pulling them inthe fuckers who started this war are the jews and they would pull europe into it toothats why I am mentioning the frog carrier, something shady is going on - why would they send a frog carrier of all things
>>530109070>ALL ground-based AA weapons have been for the purpose of lowering the accuracy of the attacker, reducing the time they can stay in the airspace, and freak out the pilot causing him to make mistakes. Also, forces the pilpt to climb or change his altitude frequently. AA has ALWAYS had a very very low kill rate. The iranians have taken out 5 jets with SAM so far, I think 4 US and 1 ISR.But that’s dumb, well engineered AA weapons would be fully capable of beyond visual range hard kills on planes and missiles Economically they could still be overwhelmed, but at least they would do their fucking job and shoot stuff down and you’d be able to win hard if you had more industry than the enemy
>>530109180I'm not in damage control I'm doing damage. Fuck this gay war and fuck the orange kike.
>>530106647>Photo from 2015https://www.minot.af.mil/Multi-Media/Photos/igphoto/2001260684/
>>530108658>>530108820It’s an indian shill farm that the various glowniggers use, probably the same exact one with the same exact guys.
>>530106751Bro it's a radar I don't understand how it costs that much.
>>530107015China's Air Force can't fly that far. Maybe their balloons will make it.
>>530109309>Its not cope and the anon is right about the false flag in the gulf states pulling them inthat's already failed though. >the fuckers who started this war are the jews and they would pull europe into it tooEurope has no military, they gave it all to Ukraine and it's already been destroyed by Russia. >thats why I am mentioning the frog carrier, something shady is going on - why would they send a frog carrier of all thingsWTF is it going to do? It can't fly any more sorties than the US carriers in the region already and it's just as vulnerable too anti-ship missiles. It's allegedly going to protect Gulf states, it will actually do nothing.
>>530108171>350 ballistic missiles in a dayDon't they only have like 2k in their entire stockpile?Day one was a good show but seems like kind of a waste, should have been dunking all of those into aircraft carriers or some shit instead of random jew skyscrapers. Guess they just wanted a good propaganda shot.
>>530109153>>530109128thx frens>>530109131A very interesting piece of data I'm trying to scrape is what the GCC sovereign wealth funds are doing. They invest trillions in the US economy if they pull out as a retaliation for the US not protecting them they could very well crash the US economy and lets not even mention the fact that the entire petrodollar scheme revolves around them only selling oil for dollars if that is gone the US currency hyperinflates and they default on their debt.Everything is on the brink rn, we're living history.
>>530109312I just think that in practice, various factors cause ground AA to simply result in it not making contact with the target. I dunno the scientific physics of why that is, but it do be that way. But there’s for sure a solid explanation.
>>530109315very rare gringo hating trump>"i never though i would die next to a gringo">"what about next to an fellow northamerican?">"Sí, i could do that"
>>530109263If Israel can kill Iran's leadership with no consequences the country doesn't meaningfully exist anyway
>>530107066Iran didn't surrender in eight years of Fighting Saddam and the US. They're not going to surrender after a week of bombing, or four weeks of bombing.
>>530109446>WTF is it going to doget sunk.jumpstart the war machine in europe for the eurofags.
>>530109467They already hit most of the targets with missiles and drones now they need targets.5-10 missiles per day are good enough to take juicy expensive targets.
>>530109367>It’s an indian shill farm that the various glowniggers use, probably the same exact one with the same exact guys.Kikes post as Indians to hide their shilling, Indians make poor shills, they have shitty language skills and are naturally non confrontational. Almost no one uses jeet shills. Kikes use JIDF volunteers, unit 8200 and a BIT of scandi private 'reputation management' shills. NATO shilling is largely done via military contractors, it used to be entirely bots but after Trump got in the USAID got cut, the really good DOD bots seem to have disappeared.
>>530106443We can't they just shoot a giant wire into the sky to detonated warheads? Shooting a missile with another missile seems dumb
>>530109467They only had 2k? The hell were they thinking?
>>530109404>Bro it's a radar I don't understand how it costs that much.missile defense radar is among the most sophisticated technology that exists. We don't even give Israel our good stuff (which is why they have to rely on THAAD and naval radar for missile defense), they literally can't maintain the good radar if we gave it to them.
>>530109326Thx for the correction fren. I posted the photo with the missile and forgot to post the print from the video
>>530109263That decentralized network is probably the reason why they're attacking even Azerbaijan, even Oman who was hosting negotiations, the rest of the civilian government probably has no control over some military units, the missiles and drones will be destroyed more and more until they can't muster a decent attack, the regime will lose the ability to respond while US and Israeli air power continues to pick their targets day by day, at that point the people may get uppity, we can see some caos and protests, police and riot stations were targeted a lot, the state will have difficulty to respond, we'll see how it goes but the chance of balkanization is very high considering a big part of the population are kurds, azeris, and secularists who hate the government, also, I doubt very much the country is galvanized, there's plenty of people filming strikes inside iran laughing and cheering
>>530109555>secret ToT attachement I saw that
>>530106973Criminally few people in 2026 have seen Blue Mountain State and can appreciate all the news about the THADDs getting obliterated
>>530107129>But sadly he is a boomer shabbos goy.He is. But also his grandchildren from his favorite daughter are all hostages to the Chabad.
>>530108059We actually look at the entire country from space. We would backtrace where the missile came from, find the drone, and simply follow it back to where it came from. Secret bases are one-and-dones. As soon as they do something we know were they are.
>>530109633I’m not really buying it
>>530109731>We actually look at the entire country from space. We would backtrace where the missile came from, find the drone, and simply follow it back to where it came from. Secret bases are one-and-dones. As soon as they do something we know were they are.you don't need a base to launch drones or the missiles Iran is using. And the thousands of miles of tunnels they keep them in are too vast to destroy if you had 100% accuracy and used 100% of our bunker busters.
>>530109263They can be decentralized all they want. Still won't be able to build new missiles.
>>530106443The USA would never show their true hand, they probably have hundreds more in hiding.This is a bait to get Iran to launch all its missiles at Israel, and it's working. Iran will be taken out in one fails woop.
>>530109220It should be agreed that both sides of a military conflict will conceal the real figures of their actual losses in order to demoralize the enemy and to avoid incurring the outrage of their population. Israel is notorious at hiding figures in order to make themselves look good. Now US figures are suspiciously low as well. You mean to tell me that these bases with billions of dollars worth of vital equipment were just totally abandonded and that all of the service members, save for the 6 unfortunate soldiers are healthy after constant barrages of missiles and drone strikes? Nah. Shit stinks to high heaven
>>530109633>the rest of the civilian government probably has no control over some military unitsIran assumed command and control would break down and had orders in place for commanders to attack at will.
>>530109856>The USA would never show their true hand, they probably have hundreds more in hiding.we have 1 more THAAD radar in the region in Turkey MAYBE 1 more in Saudi.
>>530109493They could pull the funding and investments only if this lasted for a long time as a means of survival since they depend on oil revenue to survive, and even then the US wouldn't stop, but remember the gulf states don't like Iran and MBS himself pushed for the attack, after Iranian chimp out it's very likely they figured it's better to end the problem once and for all, and don't forget the while thing puts immense pressure in china, they just stopped all exports of diesel and gasoline to prepare, and are making a lot of pressure to keep the strait open, you're underestimating the US too much and putting a lot of faith on the people that lost all of the so called axis of resistance, you must have made a lot of wrong guesses this last years don't you?
>>530107803>We dropped a bomb on a bunch of guys, We win!There was a platoon in afghanistan that got bombed by an F-16 with a 500 lbs bomb right in the middle of their formation. Nobody was killed by it.There was a car with an HVT in it bombed. The HVT climbed out of the wreckage.What I'm trying to say is, your aerial bombing is not as powerful as you think it is.
>>530109589I'm still scraping this data so take this with a grain of salt. Apparently you guys never made enough AA. Take the PAC 3 missiles from the Patriot it entered mass production in 2015 at an average of 120 units per year sand niggers in the peninsula who were trying to pick scrap from the launchers found out that the patriots in the are were launching PAC2 missiles made in 2000. The damn things are almost 30 fucking years old. They want to ramp up production to 750 per year by 2030 while Iran today has according to the IDF 80.000 drones. The Alabiga factory in Russia alone makes 500 per shift and I read that China is now making 10.000 shahed motors per day.
>The mother of all ME regime change wars might finally break ZOGs spine and cause regime change in the US.Please God let this happen, nothing has ever needed to happen more in modern history. We have an 80+ year backlog of unpunished mass mafioso crime and corruption to purge over.
>>530109970Target was not the guys but the missile launchers, they're being hunted with impunity to end Iranian ability to respond
>>530109671>and can appreciate all the news about the THADDs getting obliteratedWhy? I feel like you can only believe it’s a big deal if you previously vastly overestimated how capable 8 THAAD batteries were I feel like they always were a nothingburger and now that they’re gone almost nothing has changedIt’s like if in WW2 Germany lost 20 tanksMaybe notable if they only had 40 tanks to begin with but then again why would they only have 40 tanks? you get what I’m saying?
>>530110030>Please God let this happen, nothing has ever needed to happen more in modern history. We have an 80+ year backlog of unpunished mass mafioso crime and corruption to purge over.I don't see any other way this ends.
>>530107240Laser AA is a meme, it sucks dick, it's one of those wunderwaffe that barely works inside the most controlled environment and the second there is a single grain of dust on it, it crumbles.
>>530106565We know it is. Miga doesn't but we do.
>>530106565>best anti missile techHard doubt
>>530110099They only have gelipr and laser left as interceptors are nearly gone. Literal meme garbage
>>530109633Israel/CIA launched the attack on the Azeris by using Kurdish proxies it's the same reason why they were also able to strike Akrokotiri in Cyprus and Turkey. Triangulate those targets and the lines cross precisely over Iraq/Iranian northern border are where it's filled with Kurds. Erdogan is pissed. Nato is over as an alliance.
>>530109863With the thousands of journalists that hate the government? They're fighting to prove the US bombed the little girls, you think they wouldn't report hundreds of deaths?
>Anonymous (ID: 7+acNzM5) Brazil flag 14 pbtid
>>530108215Kuwaiti H1B hires from India.If that's not an ad to abolish DEI and H1B, I don't know what is!
>>530110099>Laser AA is a memelol it fucked up all your stand off munitions during the 12 day war kike. its good against drones and cruise missiles.
>>530110191It was already proven. Investigation closed on it. It was a jdam.
>>530110219its his thread lol seethe more kike
>>530109803They have underground factories and Chinese and Russian support anon. You don't understand how much of a shitshow you guys walked into.
>>530108267>They were using the Girl's School as a human Shields
>>530110284zog really stepped in it this time.
>>530110325They seriously thought God was going to let them get away with it too
>>530108792Anything on the Gulf coast is a thousand miles from Tehran.
>>530106443So when does Iran stop getting blown up then?
>>530110030Not happening, pal. Zog is winning this one as well. If you think mere humans can defeat people that have direct aid of demons, then you know nothing. Mossad probably already has some plastic bombs inside then plastic frames of the iranian commanders or some other cartoonishgly elaborate scheme.
>>530107066>when iran surrenders next week?Or two more?
>>530107058Because Israel demanded it
>>530110390And an island is absolutely prime real estate for Shaheds. Absolute insanity.We're gonna learn hard from this one.
>>530106565>THAADs are the best anti missile tech in the world, and in limited supply, so this is a huge LThis is worse than you think, this is their #1 long range early warning radar.
>>530110359>They seriously thought God was going to let them get away with it tooits actually worse than that.
>>530110006PAC 3 is a highly maneuverable and precise missile with a hit to kill warhead, mostly used as a terminal defense against ballistic missiles, PAC 2 is longer range and best used against aircraft and drones, also cheaper, it's no wonder they've used some, and of course the production will be increased, the budget is going to 1.5 trillion after all, anyway, there's much better ways to shot down shaheds, Ukraine developed very cheap drones to counter them, you can use attack helicopters with proximity fuses on munitions and the APKWS which are cheap and very effective, one F15 can carry 42 rockets for example, also if the enemy controls your airspace it'll be increasingly hard to lauch those drones as we're already seeing after only one week.
>>530110191That's not the point. The numbers the US and Israel are providing aren't really adding up, and you know it. Maybe the figures aren't as high as the Iranians are claiming, but they most certainly are not 6. If they're lying about these figures, who's to say they aren't lying about their effectiveness in destroying these missile launchers or the amount of missiles they're shooting at israel?? Hell, the israeli gov is arrestimg anyone taking photos of the aftermath of a bombing..
>>530110006Patriots are used for missiles, not the drones. Problem is air defence is tricky, so even top of the line systems only succeed 1/3rd of the time intercepting ballistic missiles, if Iran launched like 600 of them so far, Gulf allies could have easily launched 1800+ patriot interceptors. Hence several years of interceptors evaporating over a few days unsustainable obliterating stockpiles. But yeah the Trump administration hasn't been taking the Ukrainian war seriously and the Pentagon should have realized this obvious oversight and investing heavily in anti-drone systems, considering Iran was the country that developed most of the weapons being used in that war.... one should come to the obvious conclusion they'd have their own arsenal of drones they will used in a future conflict as well... Alas.....
>>530108838Russia chose to take the Donbas and build a Land bridge to Crimea. They already won the war, all that's going on now is Ukraine throwing themselves against an increasingly dug in and reinforced Defense.
>>530110145it actually is its just that missile defense is a stupid concept like smart artillery.
>>530109796Oh lawd, imagine the zoomies doing the fortnite dance as he has a panic attack behind the pile of corpses forming a wall in those tunnels
>>530110169That's the Iranian claims, they have no way to prove that, what is know is that the attack came from Iranian territory and the azeris are pissed, together with the rest of the gulf, do you personally know erdogan to know what he's thinking? Turkey is always opportunistic, if they smell blood on the water they themselves will take a pice of iran
>>530107475Unlike Israel Iran knows they have to be extremely careful about blowing up civilians because of generations of Goyslop brainwashing in the West, and even though these wars are unpopular in America that could still change if Israel is able to create a sob story because Iran blew up a school and killed 150 children. Only Israel is allowed to do that and not face repercussions.tl;dr Iran has already destroyed most of the military and industrial targets that they wanted to. This same pattern repeated last year, where it was big at the start, then dropped off day by day, until there was one more final big push at the end.
>>530109066Based
>>530108672>that means you careIt could *also* be sarcastic, David.I could care less means the same thing as I couldn't care less.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZW-AZ2mNeA
>>530108171>Line goes down when info ban startsnice graph, you've shown censorship
>>530110359gbu-31>allah
>>530110628its incredibly how humorless kikes aregives you idiots awayIsraelis are incapable of being funny. what you think of as humor is just sadism really makes you stick out what a disgusting race of people you are.
>>5301064434 now
>>530109128Iranians are Ayrans.
>>530110072The only other thing that comes to mind is the crazy heretic bible thumpers and zogbots and messianic kikes in Israel resort to nukes. Otherwise, there's no way this is going to work. Iran is just short 3 times the population and 3 times the size of Ukraine (the largest country in Europe), with governmental institutions almost a generation older as well, in which the Ayatollahs death not causing collapse goes to show that the regime is not going anywhere. That Russia hasn't been able to topple or take Ukraine goes to show that what the US is doing is fubar. I don't know the comparative stats on Ukraines military at the time of invasion vs Iran now, but it's clear Iran has the potential to survive long enough to drone and hypersonic spam the region into oblivion against a missile/drone defense shield drained by Ukraine and Gaza, with US defense manufacturing being a husk hollowed out by corruption. Any talk of ground invasion is utterly insane and is going to make Iraq/Vietnam look like a toddler theme park. Domestically the US is on a knives edge with cost of living and economic un-vitality. And now everybody paying attention who isn't brainwashed by the MIGA cult knows that the show is ran by a pedo cabal. A catastrophic war, economic depression, and pre-existing destruction of government authority are classic pre-conditions for revolution. It's just a question of if ZOG will have the will or will have the means in time to go full AI-Robot totalitarianism on US civil society.
>>530108246>But they didn’t even really tryBecause that goes against Israeli interests. No one would take their Tantrum Option seriously if the superpowers of the world could intercept their nukes, do they used their money and influence to focus the golems on punching down.
Has anyone noticed how rightoids are losing relevance in /pol/, I mean just take a look at this thread, everyone is supporting the 3rd world while criticizing the imperialistic United States.
>>530110593All our leaders are boomers who can't learn. They saw Ukraine, assumed it was just because it's "retarded slavs" and "the gas station with nukes" doing it, and that it wouldn't apply to us - we have F-22s!This really can't be overstated - our leaders are boomers who are past the age where they can understand and accept radically new information. They are making decisions as though it's 1996. In their mind it still is.NB: Bibi is a boomer too.
>>530110799>The only other thing that comes to mind is the crazy heretic bible thumpers and zogbots and messianic kikes in Israel resort to nukesgood newsnukes are fake
>>530110843I just don't like tiny hats and inflation is all
>>530106647they've built 7500 total, assuming they have all of them still left, they have 1000 pound warhead so 3750tons totalin comparison zog dropped 800,000tons on north vietnam during operation rolling thunder...
>>530110284https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-underground-missiles-59b3492c>Iran spent decades constructing underground bunkers to shield its vast missile arsenal from destruction. Less than a week into the war with its two most powerful adversaries, the strategy is beginning to look like a blunder.>U.S. and Israeli war planes and armed drones are circling over the dozens of cavernous bases, striking missile-carrying launchers when they emerge to fire. Meanwhile, waves of heavy bombers have dropped munitions on the sites, apparently entombing the Iranian weapons below ground in some locations.Also loled about Russian and chink support, nothing will come out of that
>>530110789The Mongols wiped out like 90% of Persia's population. It didn't recover number wise till the 1900s.
>>530106565Sounds to me these thaads were a scam.
>>530106443isn't this kind of forcing trumps hand into making the regime change happen, since if iran is neutralized they don't need to replace these radars?
>>530110843That's must've been some hard years for the 3rd world supporters, because they're getting fucked everywhere
>>530106443Money is endless for the US we have something called the Petro dollar, it means the dollar is the world reserve currency so we set the prices for everything and we can print endless money BRRRRRRRR. We get this because all the Gulf States sell their oil for US dollars because we have these things called Bases built all throughout the region proving we control and protect the flow of money in this region. We achieved this for decades by projecting force in the region by being an untouchable force.We have currently temporarily lost access to all those bases and all our allies are being attacked but Im sure this is just temporary. Iran also closes the straight so we dont have time on our side either but im sure an invasion will be easy. Its not like Iran is huge and mountainous region or anything like that. They surely can't hit anywhere we stage troops to invade.... wait they can. They hit the Kurds yesterday after it was officially announced they were going to get involved and they decided against it..... oh well ill just keep believing the media because I literally cannot fathom how the US could lose to Iran lmao as even.
>>530110052As I said, you're overestimating the damage a bomb can do.
>>530107475Isn't this the account that makes "Lists" that somehow always have Israel at the top?Like>Happiest people:1. Israel>Best Food>1. Israel>Biggest dicks>1. Israel
>>530110061Comparing them to tanks in WW2 is disingenuous. They're closer to Aircraft Carriers in importance, and if you lost 20 out of 40 aircraft carriers, you're fucked.
>>530110919>striking missile-carrying launchers when they emerge to firethey don't have to emerge to fire
>>530110564Yep. American propaganda as of late has been straight up North Korea tier
>>530110648I don't have to know Erdogan to know that he might get a little angry when the CIA is arming people who want a piece of his country and the Iranian claims is far more plausible as the kurds have been used as CIA cannon fodder since desert storm and Israel needs to escalate the war to keep the US in. Iran on the other hand gains nothing by attacking the Azeris. TLDR cui bono.
>>530110505>>530110359My favorite copy-pasta.Hubris is the sign of destruction. Jewish Hubris is called Chutzpah, and it goeth before destruction (Of Israel and 99% of the Jewish People).
>>530110789>Iranians are Ayrans.No they arent. They are as aryan as pajeets, who also have some sintasha ancestry.
>>530106443Decoy
>>530108173>Lasers can be hard counteredDon't tell me they paint them blue kek
>>530110783Oy gevalt
>>530111075This is the most coherent post on /pol/ rn I was beginning to think the whole board was bots.
>>530106443This is worth it, because if Americans got universal healthcare or budget surplus then we'd get greedy.Bootstraps!**this excludes billionaires, kikes, and israelis
>>530111075>we have something called the Petro dollar, it means the dollar is the world reserve currencyWhere have you been dude? The petrodollar ended last year.
>>530110564Epstein files demonstrated two things: 1) Trump admin can't be trusted on anything; 2) Always assume more or less the worse and guiltiness until proven otherwise with the USG/elites. Ergo, 6 dead is 100% a lie, and military operations and defense are definitely not going as well as hoped or portrayed.
>>530108133What juicy VPN you have
>>530106994The problem with intercepting missiles with missiles is the countermissiles by their very nature need to outperform and outmatch the missiles that they are meant to target. This makes them far more expensive and difficult to make. So truthfully the very concept of counter missiles was always a very expensive joke that is extremely easy to prove and humiliate. Just look at what the Houthis did to the entire USA navy. They literally had to run away because they were running out of countermissiles and couldn't restock them. Interceptor missiles are goddamn awful and far more expensive than the offensive missiles used against them.>>530107240Flack saturation rockets are honestly better. Lasers are better for precision yes but quantity is always king for offensives to overwhelm the defenses.
>>530110843Nobody here has ever been jingoist retard.
>>530111219Erdogan is a player, he'll do what's best for him, didn't you heard when he said he may occupy some regions of iran to control the inflow of refugees before the war? He'll do absolutely nothing against US or Israel, as for the azeris what you think is more likely is irrelevant, the drone came from Iran and they said they stopped some terrorist attack against an Israeli embassy, they're already amassing troops on the border, they won't invade of course but it's already another country against the interests of iran that can facilitate intelligence or even the passage of weapons, the position of the government is clearly pro American regarding of who attacked, could be a rogue commander, could be a false flag, that's how war works
>>530106443actually no. Those who pay are the colonies of GAE.How else are you going to explain that usa runs on deficit every year?
>>530106443Watch now how the american imperialist shills will say:AI pic, fake.ahahahahahhahahahahhaha
>>530110919>apparently entombing the Iranian weapons below ground in some locations.Oh no. Whatever will they do?
>>530111378It ended when the Strait got closed.
>>530111145>They're closer to Aircraft Carriers in importance,How so lmao don’t these batteries only have 4 missiles each? They can shoot down 4 targets it’s closer to 1 WW2 single engine fighter that could take out several bombers if the pilot was goodJust look at the size how can you compare the twoOne is a tiny thing the size of a truck the other is a giant floating city If they cost 1 billion each you’re merely getting scammed, it doesn’t seem consistent with either their build value or how expensive it should be to build something like that
>>530111075>>530111303Keyword in petrodollar is petro and right now no petroleum is leaving the gulf. Iran is attacking the wells and even if they didn't when the oil storage is filled the wells will have to be shut off. One thing about oil wells is that they need constant flow when the flow is stopped the well starts to degrade and it takes weeks to keep it back into production.Another thing is that the GCC can make that oil leave as Chinese and Russian vessels are being allowed to move but they won't be buying with dollars.Third point is the moves the GCC sovereign funds are doing. They invested trillions into your real economy not just finance they can break your country if they pull that money out bc of a national emergency.Again, you have no idea the shit Trump just did. A global recession is pretty much assured by now.
>>530106443This is what happens when you put actors in White House and the Pentagon
>>530107693LOL this anon has been digging into homemade weaponized drones.Yeah Iran and Houthis definitely didn't originally invent all the systems and designs they use for that sorta thing but they figured out how to mass produce them. That is what makes them dangerous. I'll admit its been a long time since I last got to look at their designs.The stuff in regards to turrets was also hilarious but effective and ran into the exact same problem the MIC did with their turret systems that nobody could fix. Repurposed for pest control LMAO. MIC was too embarassed to do the same.
>>530111665You know they can reload the missiles, right?
>>530111292>Don't tell me they paint them blue kekYou’ll never guesshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=rlz_CHukJjk>takes less than a second to dig through concrete blocks>takes several minutes to not dig through a cucumber War... war has changed
>>530107066>just one more week bro-1000 izzat for being retardedalso you have to go back
>>530106443We will just have to build new and better oneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3SMs_IR1vc
>>530111708They're all actors. Half the Generals are Jewish, and Politics is showbusiness for ugly people.
>>530111504I also heard Gantz saying that he is next on the chopping block and the Turkish population is pissed off bc of Gaza. You just can't cut through your confirmation bias.
>>530106443>Ofc merifats will pay for everything as always.Kek'd because it's true, they like paying for israel without receiving anything in return.
>>530111446>The problem with intercepting missiles with missiles is the countermissiles by their very nature need to outperform and outmatch the missiles that they are meant to target. Yes>This makes them far more expensive and difficult to make. Not theoretically If the industry is advanced enough they’re cheaper due to having smaller range and this being smaller due to the rocket equation (plus they don’t need a big warhead either making them even smaller)A lot more needs to be spent on R&D and setting up the production chain that makes every component but once it’s made, if production cost approach the thermodynamic cost of making them and material mass and availability it would be cheaper. Basically if economies of scale max out they’re cheaper. If you only build a few they’re way more expensive>So truthfully the very concept of counter missiles was always a very expensive joke that is extremely easy to prove and humiliate. Just look at what the Houthis did to the entire USA navy. They literally had to run away because they were running out of countermissiles and couldn't restock them. Interceptor missiles are goddamn awful and far more expensive than the offensive missiles used against them.True. HoweverIf your missiles worked and you actually used your superpower status for industry you could outproduce interceptors faster than small nations can mass produce attack missiles and gain victory that way. Just because q weapon needs critical mass doesn’t mean it’s unusable you can have local superiority and local critical mass Basically produce so many interceptors that a small nation cannot spam attack missiles fast enough to overwhelm you. Only a peer adversary with similar or greater industry to you can laugh your interceptors off
>>530109555What is ecker?I can't find anything meaningful
>>530108956Something will pop off because world economies were already on brink after covid + ukr/rus War, closing the suez canal would be the final nail to European economy
>>530111727PKK and Hezbollah were using fucking steam decks to control Grad batteries and RPKs that fired from undeground. Fuck yeah I've been digging i to it kek.
>>530111738Aren’t the missiles the entire batteries?Like what else is there, there’s a radar, there’s a missileThat’s all there is Are you telling me the random metal thing that angles them upwards is the irreplaceable part? Come on now The radar and missiles are the expensive parts
>>530107066Good morning saar
>>530111690>Another thing is that the GCC can make that oil leave as Chinese and Russian vessels are being allowed to move but they won't be buying with dollars.They aren't, no ship is crossing the strait, they're trying to negotiate the passage but with the chaos on the region no ship is gonna risk it, the insurance prices will be astronomical, also there would be no point since qatar, EAU and SA are stopping production in several sites, china is gonna get fucked, and you're also greatly overestimating the impact of the investments in the American economy, not like this war will last long enough to happen anyway, see you end of month when Iran bends the knee
>>530112030And btw that’s a sign of an efficient weaponIdeally you want most/all of the cost to be the ammo So I’m not saying it’s a bad thing most of the cost of a THAAD batteries are the missiles themselves I’m saying that if they’re destroyed then the battery is gone because it’s all it is If America hardware was done properly they wouldn’t even need their radar the missiles could be fed information from any tracking system anywhere So it boils down to the cylinder itself doing all the work. If it can read targeting information form AI cameras, other radars, satellites, drones etc, then there’s literally no other piece needed than the missile You can move it with a truck or boat or hide it somewhere under a fake house or trapdoor but ultimately the missile itself IS the system
>>530111690You didn't read the whole post. You read the first part of it and then stopped. I was being sarcastic
>>530111840>Turkish population is pissed off bc of Gaza. Lmao, you're more delusional than I thought, you think yourself very smart don't you, they don't give a fuck buddy, Turks are a westernized, secular people, they couldn't care fucking less about palestinians, let me tell you a secret, nobody does
>>530108437How much did this war cost?
>>530112000I have too. Fun history lesson for where those original designs came from. They weren't invented in the Middle East. However they were spread there in mass following the move against Syria as revenge for Gaddafi. Back than there were groups largely anonymous in nature given how sensitive the hardware being worked on was. When assets and manpower were shipped over, they also included copy of the designs they were working with certain intelligence packages and playbooks they could use. Later these designs made their way to different nations like Iran and China, where they 'improved' upon them by figuring out how to mass produce them because the original designs were meant to be made in basements, garages, and caves without having an entire economy or logistics to mass produce them.These 'decentralized' MIC think tanks made globohomo, intelligence, and the MIC BIG mad but they weren't as pissed off about it as they were the decentralized leaderless resistance until people started figuring out how to mass produce them. That was when they finally realized they had a problem but it was far too late. Those designs have had over 10 years to quietly spread and be improved upon.Turrets, missiles, and more all carefully engineered and designed. Really, the only thing they haven't(yet) really started working on last I checked was stuff involving heavy machinery like tanks. Although with ideas like drones and killdozers its not like they haven't thought about it.Dirty little secret they REALLY don't want coming out was that Intel support via infoautists wasn't the only thing being supplied to them. They were more than happy to offer field testing services. The media mainly likes to focus and double down on the whole 3d printing firearms but that isn't even the real rabbit hole involved with what is going on.
>>530106443Yeah. So what bitch? I pay money so our country can be the strongest on this planet.
>>530112468you pay money so that jews and mega corporations and fleece you and embezzle trillions into off shore accounts while inflating your purchasing power away
>>530112545don’t forget so they can also rape and eat your kids
>>530111690No I very well understand that theres no path or none that I can see that doesn't lead to the end of US Hegemony in the Middle East now and the end of the petro dollar. Iran beat us with asymmetrical warfare as far Im concerned theres no conclusion here were we can achieve our goals. None of the Gulf allies have any reason to allow the US to rebuild bases or oversee the region once Operation Epic eventually ends with US pulling out if the region declaring itself the winner. Most of these retards will believe it still bringing up conventional wins as proof as they pay 10 dollars a gallon at the pump.
>>530112468It got blown up tho.
>>530106645It's probably cheaper to just kick the mutts out and sign peace treaty with Iran at some point.
>>530110061>Why?I misspoke, i meant nobody can appreciate the Thad Castle jokes coming out of the news the THAADs are being destroyed>https://youtube.com/shorts/PcT84BpRvtg?si=DQuP_Z6wc6t3fFG9
>>530107220I wonder how much rare earth is required for that tech.
>>530106443At this point the kikes are going to be the refugees lmao Who's gonna take them?
>>530106443Looks like AI
>>530113109I've heard Germany has a solution.
>>530112208Sorry fren. I suck at multitasking, my bad.
>>530112441Fantastic post. Thx fren
>>530106565>so this is a huge LIf you're pro White genocideIf you want the empire responsible for polluting our ancient homelands with nons while raping children to lose, then it's a W
>>530113109India kek
>>530106647>that despite carpet bombing Iran without any regard for collaterals, for a whole fucking week, they still don't have aerial superiority.In Western Iran zog has air superiority, but not air supremacy
>>530113321hey man good threadhope brazil stays comfy for you in this rickety ass uncertain future
>>530107642What a dumb graph, y axis says daily strikes, yet there are peaks in-between days.
>>530106647>still dont have aeriel superiorityYoure such a fucking retard dudeThe obly planea shot down so far have been 3x f15s from friendly fire ffs lmao
>>530110006Downgraded manufacturing and mandatory contractual inventory dumping. A huge amount of the reserves that existed on the books got sent to Ukraine. The rest were either dumped on glownigger operations or quietly shuffled into dumps to get rid of inventory due to contractual obligations.The USA logistical inventory management is a very special kind of nightmare going on for well over a century and has only gotten worse. It was mandated from the very founding of this country in order to resist stronger opponents as part of our de facto military and self defense doctrine. That particular part was never replaced because it was later used by the MIC to sell more shit.If you want easy proof of just how bad it is, look up what happened to FOGBANK and where all the military surplus came from for 'militarized' police forces, national guard, and civilian aftermarket. Its a HUGE problem. You have entire off the books fleets that are quietly mothballed , covered in tarps, with their parts carefully stored with, even munitions, and buried. Not to mention an endless array of armories and supply depots that were dumped everywhere they could find and promptly forgotten about except for a few locals who stumble upon them.>>530113321Turrets are currently the most famous example they are kvetching about. However it wasn't the only thing. They also have artillery and cheap missile systems developed. Several years back, I got to talk to some of them who were working on redoing the missile systems to create a cheaper, easier to produce yet still effective model. They were asking around for programmers at the time to redo some stuff for them as they weren't happy with the standard code.Also look out for the turret systems in case of an infantry invasion. Their friendly ID systems are still fucked but they can still be easily used if you use them as a disposable weapon system to cause problems, so long as you keep your friendlies out of the way.
>>530113817No there’s like two more down not just those three
I have heard these radars have 60 kgs of Germanium in them. And china is the sole provider of it and they stopped selling these. Essentially, these radars are irreplaceable now.
>>530111964That requires for corruption in MIC to be dug out and the entire MIC revitalized which is never going to happen. We have stairs being sold for millions in military contracts. As well as the yearly mandatory dumping of inventory. They also still need superior cost performance. If they brute force it is possible extremely cost ineffective.WW1 and WW2 were right all along in how they intercepted missiles and artillery for cheap. You want flack screens.>>530113850*dronesNot turrets. The turrets will be a real problem should they invade, though. Most have the entirely wrong idea on the correct way to utilize them. Especially the automated variety. In Iran's case, they have the perfect terrain and doctrine to maximize their effectiveness.
>>530113504not him but i like the wholesome interaction herehope you people can deal with the kikes and their retard bootlickers, none of you deserve to get entrapped in their pointless wars
>>530106443The virgin THAAD battery VS the Chad Iranian Drone
>>530106443i can't find any sources for this that arent covered in borscht
>>530113149very possible, information warfare is a big part of this warthe two previous hit sites however have been looked at from commercial sats and there's been reporting on it from reputable sources>https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/05/middleeast/radar-bases-us-missile-defense-iran-war-intl-invs
>>530107129>When the north beat the south in the american civil war this created an inherent bias in their military doctrine. For americans and for most westerners who want to suck up to them, more tech = better. They are very quick to forget that anything can be saturated and destroyed if you throw enough vectors at it this is a mentality that countries like Russia and Iran have. You win by being more adaptable and creative not by having the shiniest toy.and this was a dumb thought for Zog since the South had the superior K:D ratio while also being starved to death via blockade and having far fewer men
>>530107129that shitty black flag operation on Cyprus has to be the most hilarious event of this war so far.
>>530106443which US city do you guys think pissrael will nuke first when they start the samson option?
>>530111268The Bible is properly read as a RP about the JQ.
>>530106994>Also weird they haven’t taken inspiration from the ones in games that actually work and can take down missilesYou're a fucking idiot tootpaste man,
>>530111966I'd check github I think it's some shilling app, I'm an organic user so I just use a regular browser.
>>530114542need some based Persian to do a meme like this of the THAAD getting ACK'd
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>>530115656kek
>>530114478>That requires for corruption in MIC to be dug out and the entire MIC revitalized which is never going to happen. Crazy how corruption destroys all the strongest superpowers throughout history>We have stairs being sold for millions in military contracts. American model seems to lump RD cost into unit price making then way more expensive than productionThat’s not a massive issue in itself however it sets price expectations and they sell items that didn’t cost a lot to develop as if they did A country could do something like cap the bonuses of an industrial sector. No more than 20% margin for instanceCritics would say that it would make comoetent people go elsewhere but there is still ton of guaranteed money to be made plus nerds who love the bomb and want to design weapons so I don’t think it would be too negative and it would get rid of the negative effects of for profit over charging >As well as the yearly mandatory dumping of inventory. Is it from stuff decaying or artificial to drive consumption?>They also still need superior cost performance. If they brute force it is possible extremely cost ineffective.not sure I understand >flakBullets have very short range20mm CIWS is knife fighting rangeLarger bullets can fly further which is what gives rise to the WW2 artillery like 88mm and 105mm that fragments before impactThat’s a decent concept but idk if it’s sufficient. You’d need both higher speeds (can fly further faster) and good volume of fireAlso fragments may not be useful if missiles have armor. Missiles that have 500 or 1000lb explosive charge could very easy swap out some of that mass for armor at the front. Weak shrapnel would bounce off the nose In fact I’m pretty sure bunker busting bombs already are like that. You’d need the full 88mm shell to stay impact as a solid shot and get a head on hit with a small warhead or bomb. That’s extremely difficult to achieve
>>530116265Artificial drive for consumption and defensive war doctrine dating back to the revolutionary war. Its mandatory to regularly dump stock even if it's good. That is how you end up with entire warehouses full of guns 'vanishing' because they didn't formally exist. Entire ghost fleets that get mothballed. As well as armories and depots hidden everywhere they can force onto the local government to dump it for them. Also all the surplus getting dumped on the market and wherever they can find in the world to dump more of it.Historically the precedent was put into place due to how we fought the Revolutionary War and the usage of militias. Later it was continued due to fear of invasion and desire to rapidly rearm and reform troops. When the MIC became a thing, they used it as an excuse to sell and dump more. Back than it got so out of hand that even local governments were getting dragged in and forced to find places to dump it. Keep in mind it was also required to be such condition as to prevent decay so it may be reused in the future.Its why we have hidden armories and supply depots dating back before the Civil War. The cold war dialed it up to 11 and guaranteed there were no large stockpiles because it was required to 'disappear' by contractual obligation or no more funds and resupply for you. Higher ups turned a blind eye to how the grunts found ways to get rid of it so long as it was 'gone' and didn't come back to bite them on the ass. Glowniggers and arms dealers around the world loved it. Our civvies too because you could get cheap surplus. It was brutal for state and local governments though. It was far too hard to consume or store the amount of stock that was getting dumped on them year after year, so they got 'creative'.You forget explosive charges for shrapnel. With some finagling, you get shaped charges to attach and detonate upon impact. In addition to comm distruption. The flight and targeting mechanism is much easier to damage.
