Why hasn't the US shipped these babies by the thousands to Ukraine?
Thise things fly at 100+ km/h
>>530147856go on
you can't realistically take down a drone with a shotgun>>530147952more like 160 km/h
>>530148021I said one hundred PLUS
>>530147856You are dumbass for asking such nonsense.
>>530147856It's not about winning. It's about culling as many people as possible to make sure the region isn't a major theatre of ww3.
>>530148021>you can't realistically take down a drone with a shotgunI could waste time showing some webms but I don't even care. Stay ignorant
>>530147856https://youtu.be/AbQ3OfB-B68
>>530147856>>530147952What the fuck does km/h mean?
Cause real life doesn't have call of duty physics
>>530147856drum mags are a meme and jam all the time.
>>530147952>>530148021what is this? 50-70mph? hockey pucks and baseballs fly faster than that. like shooting swamp rats
why doesn't he have the LABS variant??? is he stupid??
>>530147856if only we had hundreds of FPV videos of dudes getting their asses blown clean off trying to blast drones out of the sky
>>530148521Yea with their shitty rotting wood assault rifles made by their babushka during the ussr. I think a musket has more stability
>>530147952>>530148021>>530148098And many of them can come from many directions at once in swarms
>>530147952>60mph ephus the size of a volleyballThe good news just keeps on coming
>>530147856If this actually worked, they would have employed it. Manufacturing an automatic shotgun is not difficult.However, drones are very fast and more resistant to birdshot than /k/tards believe.
>>530147952No they do not. The BASE model can reach those speeds; however once you slap on an extra battery, for reqsonable range, a munition, which weighs more than the base drone itself, fiber cable spool, so your drone doesnt get jammed, and those things will barely crack 30km/hr in a dive. Seriously watch the vids. They even slow that down to a light jog speed on final approach.
>>530148145This is WW3 you ignorant fuck.
>>530148521>wounded, raped, and starved POWs set loose with one an hero round can't manage itwow it's so over all glory to skynet
>>530147856because the point is to ethnically cleans ukraine for jews to steal the place ala palestine.
>>530147856>why isn't cool random bullshit being thrown at a major conflict?You need to be 18 to post here.
>>530148263Nice anoos buddy
>>530147856no nigga is gonna carry that heavy ass gun and all those drums
>>530147856>the $700 shotg-ACK
>>530148021>you can't realistically take down a drone with a shotgunYou misunderstand. OP isn't looking for a 100% security solution, but a standard protection protocol kinda like a standard issue helmet or combat fatigues. If their interest were in protecting the people of Ukraine, standard issue shotguns with birdshot for anti-drone measures would increase survivability, and your response that it's not realistic is disingenuous kikery
>>530149168Easy to shoot but it means you need a shotgun at the ready at all times making you very vulnerable to a soldier with an assault rifle
>>530147856> why dont we do thing that doesnt work, and is known to not work since before the war ?
>>530149168The blades are plastic.
>>530147856here is totally cool tests bullets vs frying panshttp://x.com/josh_uglyasf/status/2028603956071456961
>>530147856>$700I can buy one now for $250 and be back home within a 1/2 hour. Use the other $450 for rounds.
>>530147856>implying the Ukraine war is real and not entirely staged lol he thinks it’s real
>>530147952they can also put machine gun-like turrents on these drones too. you're fucked either way.
>>530147856>to Ukraine?Wtf for faggot? Ship them to AMERICANS!
>>530149168Lmao, BS. We have seen hundreds of videos of the shotgun winning, and 5 of the drone. Better odds than any other single tactic by FAR.>no reason they wouldnt be employed.Unless it was a ritual slaughter of white men. But our jewish overlords have never done such and thing and would never even consider such an idea……
>>530148098plus means a little over. not almost double the speed.
>>530149032>And many of them can come from many directions at once in swarmsand at night. these timmies larping about shooting at a drone during daylight knowing it's coming at them...they're delusional.
>>530149672A full auto shotgun for $250 with the ATF fees and taxes???? No way!
>>530149783Actually, I think assault rifles and machine guns offer better personal and platoon level defense than some gimmicky shotgun.
>>530147856fps russia was the shit breh
because ukraine doesn't have any men to fight. mass starvation in kiev, pedo drug smuggling in lviv. the ukraine is dead.
>>530148098PLUS?so like up to 1000000 km/h?
>>530150100Lmao, there are thousands of videos of men with assault rifles/LMGs trying and failing to engage drones. The shotgun was LITERALLY designed to engage small flying objects.
Amateur
>>530147856Surely by now you know the purpose of the war is to depopulate Ukraine
>>530148021I shoot trap and skeet. So yes, I can.
Why isn't the AA-12 more commonly used anyway? The thing seems great for certain applications.
>>530150462>Surely by now you know the purpose of the war is to depopulate UkraineThis.Then import shitskins to control like slaves.
Used to rape with these in CoD. Back when the war propaganda was actually good. Fuck kikes man.
Why haven't we just blasted every square inch of Ukraine and Russia with emp blasts?
>>530148263Drones used in the Ukraine Russia conflict move at the speed of about 1,742.5 Football fields every hour. That’s about half a football field every second! That’s more than 5 times faster than Xavier Worthy, the fastest NFL player to ever live who set a record running 40 yards in just 4.21 seconds.As it turns out, we have tried to give troops shotguns and they just aren't effective against drones because humans can’t track targets that move 10x faster than birds. We need automated anti drone turrets mounted on vehicles. But such a platform and counter measure has many vulnerabilities. The perfect counter has not been conceived or is not publicly known yet.
>>530147856The VEPR-12 can do that just as fast. Russia isn't doing it. gee, wonder why
>>530147856good luckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgum0ipwFa0
>>530147856You dumb fucks have missed the point. He is shooting with one hand on full auto. I would want this for drones. t.birdhunter
>>530147856wish i could get those for 700$so functional. not sexy but so practical.its an antinigger machine ILLEGAL for me to buy, military only or some shit. and you know they charge a lot more for eachone in their budget than parts and labor allow for.I always wanted one.
>>530150599you can load rifle shell rounds. they're nto as accurate as an actual rifle barrel but they' will travel farther making this leathal from a distance (probably a few hundred feet rather than hundreds of yards)which is insane. some piece of shit targeting children or a church. Keep stamping them out. However I want want to protect my property if I ever get one and its Zombie Apocalypse time. without warring about killing someone half a mile away
>>530148021Fine. A T-shirt cannon then.
>>530151263the dude looks like he did a half ass job of witling a branch into a stock.
>>530150599Because the only real use shotguns have in a military context is for breaching doors and riot control. The AA-12 is cool, but pointless.
>>530150069It's a semi-auto but still. I saw it a few weeks ago when I went and grabbed a shockwave they had a sale on.
>>530149783also all of that is against cheap crap drones with an explosive just rigged to it with tape.against military new generation attack drones its a totally different reality. the speed and precision is just too much, and the long range sniper ones are terrifying, and the tiny ones that scream are demonic. and the enormous super high altitude ones that stay up there permanently and launch them all are honestly cool. drones develop as quickly as AI versions now, each generation making leaps and bounds.
>>530148521They aren’t using birdshot. Wrong tool for the job.
>>530147856It's possible but very hard to shoot a drone with a shotgun:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mORdXxZ2uKU
>>530149168Both sides are culling their excess young male population. It’s more dangerous to the regime to have 50% of the 18-35 year old population unemployed wandering the city streets than dead in some ditch.
>>530150731>Xavier Worthy, the fastest NFL player to ever liveI think that you meant, most niggerfaggot player to ever live, niggerfaggot
>>530147856the thing about drones is they are MASSIVE on radar and very easy to detect...once you detect its quite easy to disable them with directional jamming...if youre always jamming you'll get busted, so only jam when needed.
>>530147856The US government murdered that man's friend
>>530151730No reason to spend more on better drones when the cheap ones do the trick. War is an industrial process. Making a drone that is 30% more lethal at 1000x the cost makes no sense
>>530150023The average second amendment retard legitimately thinks shotguns negate drone warfare. None of them have actually seen Ukraine footage.
>>530152601I’ve seen a lot of Ukraine footage. None of them are armed with shot guns. The drones move waaaay slower than in this vid >>530151855 because as another anon said they are loading them up with extra batteries, munitions, and spools of fiber optic cable. They honestly seem to fly barely 15 mph. Like a really fast nig could outrun one for 100 yards. But drones can go further than 100 yards.
This guy can never touch a gun again because he smoked a pound of weed.
>>530147856Because their goal is to kill me.The jewmerica, shitsrael and kike president with his jewish oligarchs and shabbos goyims regime golems want me to die. They don't "fight" for independence, territory or even money. They "fight" to make me kill as many of other guys(never women) as possible and then do what they can to kill me too. If they unable to kill me on the front they will drag the country in such a poverty an misery that it will hopefully make me die through other means.
>>530152951Yeah but a Russki with an AK47 is nog going to hit anything in 98% of the time.I've seen video's of drones being shot down on the Ukraine battlefield, but it hardly ever happens even when they go slow.Also if you manage to shoot one you can expect that there are already two more on the way.
>>530152229Ukraine is riddled with fiber optic cables now, they're using wired drones so jamming isn't as viable
>>530149884You are a faggot plus
>>530147856>drops 3 mortar rounds on you from 250 ft at night>sends 20 thermal fpv's to finish off the rest of your squaddrones are imbaand someday there will be drones with shotguns too, we've been stuck on the bomber/fpv tech branches for too long, but the other branches will get perfected toogyro-stabilized 30mm cannon sniper drones will be so fucking cool
>>530147856They probably did but they sold to the Cartelshttps://files.catbox.moe/f8a8fx.MP4
>>530151730This is BS. The same fundamental hpysics applies to military and paramilitary drones. IF you want them to be long enough ranged to be meaningful on the battlefield you need a huge battery. If you want them to be unjammable you need the fiber optic cable spool. And finally if you want them to actually be able to kill the target you need a proper warhead.All this means the overall speed WILL be low. Because these are loitering munitions they prioritize endurance over speed. Always have always will.Oh and final note: the “military” drones have all been OUTPERFORMED by the basic hacked together FPVs.>>530152951There are only a few videos in total and they mostly involve the drone dancing outside of the effective shotgun range until the target has wasted his ammo and tries to reload.
>>530155505If you havent noticed the drone drop videos have basically vanished. They have almost entirely been replaced by FPVs. Because when the enemy has shotguns you have to keep your drone at such a height you would be better off firing the mortar shell at them rather than dropping it and they are near useless against moving vehicles; whereas FPVs excel at those types of targets.
>>530150295That would indeed be more than 100
>>530148263>What the fuck does km/h mean?100km/h is approximately 263 burgers per second
>>530151637The point of the thread was an automatic, retard.