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Trying to figure out what is actually happening in this war feels like a fucking fever dream.

Between the media lockdowns, propaganda, and AI slop I have no goddamn clue
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>>530166204
listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMnxjdGTK4w
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>>530166204
>Between the media lockdowns, propaganda, and AI slop I have no goddamn clue
That's by design. Both sides are using propaganda and disinformation because they have to to throw each other off. Just enjoy it as a neutral observer. It's like watching Dragon Ball Z.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jI6iAa-cC0
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>>530166204
Basically, Iran is killing the US markets by turning all of the oil states against them.
They attack the money.

What does this mean for you?
Assume that things will be expensive for a while. Like back in 2008.
Thats it. The impact on Canada and their trade partners will be manageable
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>>530166204
go to /pig/ and read the summary post at the top
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US attacked Iran cause Israel is trying to expand its borders. Trump is bought by his American Israeli backers.

US losses
Bases
Aprox 15 personal K.I.A
5 Jets

Iran
Bases
Unknown personal (probably 100s)
10+ Aircraft (bombed on runways)

Israel
Massive infostructure damage
Multiple injuries some deaths.
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>>530166204
>Trying to figure out what is actually happening in this war feels like a fucking fever dream.
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>>530166791
both sides suffer heavy losses. the difference is that Iran was preparing for this for 20 years. Even fucking Colonel Macgregor said that Israel might cease to exist
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>>530166204
First rule of war is that truth is always the first casualty.
Couple this with hyper-faggot internet with the entire turdworld plugged in, AI slop and you'll get an undecipherable mess of pure retarded bullshit.
If it don't affect you personally, just leave this turd alone and focus on your own local issues.
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>>530166597
You have no more reason to tell me the truth than anyone else. That is the nature of politics: everyone is a liar, because they have to be. No, I’ll sit back with a glass of wine and let this blow over. Maybe in ten years, or twenty, when the politics of today have faded into the history of tomorrow,into that distant realm where lies are less prevalent, maybe then I’ll learn the truth of what happened.
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>>530166204
Same. I don't trust any of the shit being said on X or social media. It seems like both sides just keep saying "WE'RE BEATING THEIR ASS" which means they're both lying.
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>>530166555
>Basically, Iran is killing the US markets by turning all of the oil states against them.
By attacking all of them? Your country is a joke.
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>>530166597
Generals are the biggest propaganda threads on /pol/.
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>>530166204
i just dont care anymore.
this is the end of my 3rd day of 0 nicotine. very soon my body will be completely empty of nicotine for the first time in at least 20 years.
either the planet will explode tomorrow or it wont. i will either wake up tomorrow or i wont. who cares?
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>>530166941
Why *even* McGregor, he always says bombastic shit.
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>>530166204
Iran is getting hit hard for sure but the US is done in the middle east. our bases are largely inoperable, our military ineffective, and we're burning through money for nothing.

honestly, we need to get rid of these bases anyways. they are a huge drain as far as the budget is concerned.
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>>530167341
The reason why they are targets is because they accepted US military installations for protection. The US got their based. But none of the protection. Therefore the oil states have no reason to reinvest US dollar denominated gains into the US market.
Aka, the petrodollar. Its over.
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>>530166204
I didn't realize paintings burned that bright.
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>>530166204
It's an info war
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>>530166204
Isn’t it funny how supposedly this media blackout in Iran completely vanishes momentarily to bring us videos like this
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>>530167341
>show america is not a reliable ally or can even protect them
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>>530167455
He did in fact conquer Iraq in record time. Not his fault the US had no idea what to do after.
When it comes to strategy, he is a real US military technocrat. His profession is to win wars. Todays military generals job is to manage Trumps moods.
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>>530167700
There are some Starlink terminals.
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>>530166204
One thing is an absolute certainty: america and israel are losing. Otherwise the barrage of bullshit would not be necessary. The most telling thing is the reddit blackout. Reddit is a direct jewnited states government mouthpiece. If it's trying to silence any news coming out of this conflict we can be sure that america is not doing well in it, otherwise they'd have that shit plastered all over the front page.
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>>530167700
Starlink, I think there are some VPNs that can work, and if they are near a border they might be able to link to the neighboring countries networks.
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>>530166204
why do you want to know whats going on? lmao
what difference are you gonna make ranjeet?
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>>530166204
So why bother?

>it's all fake and gay
>and if it isn't fake and gay you have no idea
So focus on your life. I've spent like 2 minutes on this war. We live in a world run by kikes, and the people that kikes hate the most (white Christians) are the ones protecting the kikes. Fucking clown world.

Make money and enjoy your life the best you can without being bad to others.
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>>530166204
It's the jews. Every spring.
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>>530166204
There is no war. The whole thing is a big hoax.
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>>530166204
first war you dumb faggot? this is how it always works. all info within two weeks of a war event is 100% propaganda
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>>530166204
I'm used to all the lying back and forth but the authenticity problem with all the videos really fucks with my enjoyment.
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>>530166204
The "b2 bomber" AI slop I saw the other day was even funnier than that one of a "crashed F-16" that was as big as the mountains from last time
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>>530167700
I want vidya from gods chosen country.
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>>530168678
Paper straws are gay, but so are plastic straws. It turns out straws are gay
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>>530167989
I do keep coming back to this point, but maybe there are legitimate opsec reasons to ban videos of impacts?

I have this ominous feeling like everyone is waiting for some unspecified thing to happen, some sort of trigger in the war that will open the floodgates. Like we are still in some kind of prelude where they're trying to manage public perception before it actually begins. But maybe it will just remain like this the entire time and that feeling is just uncertainty.
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>>530167777
>SHOW IRAN IS A THREAT TO THE WHOLE REGION THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT
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Truth is the first casualty of war.
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>>530166204
Latest videos, big fires, hotels burning in kuwait etc https://nitter.poast.org/sentdefender
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>>530170220
Thx
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>>530166204
All I want is thousands of maga-tards to get drafted and killed fighting for their orange pedo king and Bibi. That's all I want.
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>>530168433
I wish I could anon. It's hard being hyper fixated on this shit.
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>>530166555

>Oil prices skyrocketing will make the gulf states turn against us.

And we're the worlds number one producer of oil kraut, this will mainly effect you since you've got zero independence in anything especially oil.
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>>530166295
Thanks anon, that was really nice
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I just wanna see bombs hitting tel aviv but everything is AI or some old footage.
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>>530167341
>By attacking all of them?
Yes, by attacking all of them. The US isn't protecting its vassals. That is the only reason our relationship exists: We provide them with protection and they provide us with easy access to the region and its resources.
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>>530169650
Israel is a threat to the entire region that needs to be taken out, so that won't go as far as you think it will.
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>>530172020

They've done next to no actual damage and how does skyrocketing oil prices not help the gulf states?
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>>530166204
Yeah it's pretty insane, feels like we are approaching that 1984 scenario.
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>>530166204
whatever is happening, it's not what the US or Israel wants. Well maybe Israel is getting what they want, but Trump is losing it. Too many narratives. Too much covered up.
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>>530171746
Gulf States keep your fake IT stocks in a bubble. If they take out their money, it's over.
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>>530172097
THE GULF LOVES PISRAEL

IRAN IS THE ONE TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE REGION AND NOW IRAN IS THE ONE SHOOTING AT EVERYONE IN THE REGION
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>>530166204
and they have us worried about the 4 millionth's of aprticle of poillution in my tailpipe.
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>>530172243

And again retard, how does skyrocketing oil prices hurt them?
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Iran doesn't trust its own people so they have disabled internet. No point in trusting Iranian media in that case.
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>>530172099
>They've done next to no actual damage
Anon please, it'll take a decade to rebuild the infrastructure that's been fucked in the region. Once you light up an oil field it's real goddamned hard to put out.
>how does skyrocketing oil prices not help the gulf states?
Rebuilding infrastructure is not cheap, and the significantly reduced output of both crude and refined oil are very likely to paralyze entire industries, especially freight. Put simply: It doesn't matter if you're raking in more cash per barrel if your output is bottlenecked and every other industry that relies on those resources is hamstrung by the shortage.
>>530172335
God shut the fuck up Schlomo nobody cares about your propagandistic bullshit.
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>>530166204
This is true. But what bothers me is around this hour everyone just stops posting for like 6 hours.

Anyway, Iran was rocking the US advanced radars but seems to be struggling the past 24 hours to hit al-Sultan airbase, but also Saudi could be lying.
Centcom is straight up lying. Probably 700 dead Americans so far.

Anyway, the thing to pay attention to is Hezbollah. They are no shit pushing Israel's shit in, it's astonishing.
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>>530166204
There wouldn't be blackouts, propaganda and AI slop if the West were winning.
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>>530172439

>Anon please, it'll take a decade to rebuild the infrastructure that's been fucked in the region. Once you light up an oil field it's real goddamned hard to put out.


What massive damage was done there?
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>>530172356
The part where they can't sell any of their oil.
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>>530172508
The AI slop is mostly coming from Iran.
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>>530172392
The blocking of internet leads me to believe that Iran did indeed murder a couple thousand protestors. They wouldn't be blocking it like that if things were fine and dandy.
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>>530172560
T-THE BASES ARE HIT!
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>>530172584

Which isn't even remotely close to happening.
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>>530166204
That's the Art of War.
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Strawberry fields; nothing is real and nothing to get hung about.
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>>530167363
straight up
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>>530172589
True but Iran never tried to pass it off as real. The other AI slop is just anons who never would be making AI slop, but they're bored from being deprived their missile porn by Israel's media blackout
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>>530167085
Based dane post
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>>530172560
>What massive damage was done there?
Motherfucker you just watched gas prices jump 80 cents in a day and you're confused as to what damage has been done to OPEC facilities and business? Jesus Christ.
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>>530166204
Iran is getting its shit pushed in while /pol/fags and thirdies are seething
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>>530172762
>True but Iran never tried to pass it off as real
They just thought it would some how scare anyone, when it did the exact opposite lol
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>>530169130
No
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>>530172939
It's better than the garbage the white house is putting out. Kek
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>>530167085
Based and hyggepilled
Everybody should just crack open a cold one and hyggemaxxx at this point.
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>>530172873
>while /pol/fags and thirdies are seething
And trannies

Iran is tranny land
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/530151732/#530157061
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>>530172998
>It's better
To make fun of
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>>530172873
/pol/ is the least reliable site on the internet for finding out actual information about the war in iran. This is what letting shitskins post has done to this board.
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>>530167107
You can trust me anon, I won't lie to you.
That said I have no idea what's going on lol
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>>530172762
>>530172939
>>530172998
Every piece of information released about this war is fake until proven gay.
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>>530166204
i should have bought more oil futures friday.
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>>530173118
>until proven gay.
See
>>530173037
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>>530173171
You should buy water and toilet paper
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>>530172862

So what massive amount of damage was actually done there? Start listing out all the oil fields that are currently on fire in Saudi Arabia.
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>>530168784
The previous straws weren't able to be recycled; the new cups can be recycled
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>>530173230
>buy water
only a desert rat thinks like this
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>>530166295
Based Satieposter. His nocturnes (especially #3) are so magical.

https://youtu.be/3hkXNY9IKZI
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>>530166204
you don't have to care.
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>>530172356
>how does skyrocketing oil prices hurt them?
the only people that this affects is the non gulf oil producers. gulf states literally can't get their product to market.
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>>530172666
It 100% is, retard. They sell it through Hormuz, it's closed. They get their food through Hormuz, it's closed.
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>>530166791
>iran
10+ frigates/corvettes
[Many] senior leaders
[Many] medium/low value military targets such as drones, radars and missioe infrastructure.
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>>530166204
just trump doing whatever he wants, no goals, just action.
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>>530166204
I'm seeing surprisingly little victories in Iran despite the propaganda claiming it's a colossal success so far. We got way more winning footage out of gaza and Ukraine.
This means one of two things: either both sides have made very little progress to show, or MIGA is getting gaped hard and scrambling to hide it.
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>>530172740
what a stupid fucking larp. /pol/tards were so easily manipulated into spending the past decade literally worshipping trump aka israel's chosen puppet
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>>530167107
Hmmm. Yes. Indeed. I agree, we DO live in a society.
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>>530173506
BASED THEORY
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>>530172862
Oil jumped because the strait of Hormuz is closed you dumb nigger
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>>530173257
>Start listing out all the oil fields that are currently on fire in Saudi Arabia.
The damage in Saudi Arabia has primarily been afflicted on Aramco refinery facilities, with attempts on oil fields just recently starting. It's the UAE oil terminals that are on fire.
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>>530173841
SOUNDS LIKE IRAN OWES WAR REPARATIONS
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>>530166204
The fog of war
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>>530166204
Fearless Leader says
>Iran bombed that girl's school.
>Only Iran targets civilians.
>We've already won.

It's not very confidence inspiring. And it makes me think a lot of information about casualties and materiel losses are being kept from us.

And who knows what's going on in Israel. Iran has been launching cluster warheads at them. Can't shoot down 80 submunitions. But are they effective? Nobody knows. Israel has all of that on lockdown.
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>>530166204
Over the last few days the Gulf States and Israel have majorly cracked down on the flow of information and Iran has been in an internet blackout. Information flow is key to modern wars
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>>530173606
lmao nigger!
glowie cope is an exquisite LOOSH
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>>530173571
>no regime change in iran and they hate america and israel even more after they sacrificed little iranian girls to baal.
>gulf arabs approaches china after america uses them as human shield for israel
>american public noticed they are bunch of golems for israel and raging.
israel lost. they aren't aware of that yet.
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>>530174510
just missing anime morphing into enemy
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>>530172335
The fuck is Yemen doing? are they just chill like we want nothing to do with that shit?
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Tldr
>while running for office, gave private speeches in front of jewish crowds about bombing Iran
>Runs on an anti-war platform, but
>was basically brought in to do the Iran war
>tried to start it in his first term with the "hijacked oil tankers" nonsense and killing Solemani
>Iran disengages at every opportunity
>Israel does everything they can to provoke them
>assassinating Palestinians, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, being aggressive to the Dome on the Rock
>so Iran helps organize October 7th
>becomes the excuse Netanyahu was waiting for to launch his ultimate endwar
>plagued by scandals and losing elections, he needed this badly
>Israel goes berserk and starts openly carpet bombing palestinians and invades Palestine with the intention to wipe it off the map
>carpet bombs lebanon killing civilians left and right
>invades and takes a lot of Syria
>has basically ripped the mask off going full genocide
>the US is openly supporting all of this
>Trump opens negotiations with Iran
>him and Netanyahu have a fake-splitup and Trump pretends to go anti-Israel
>it was all a ruse, Israel uses this chance to trigger strikes
>the US bombs Iran's nuclear sites
>Iran again, disengages
>next year
>this time Israel randomly decides to attack Iran as a bloodfeast for Purim
>the US goes along with it
>Rubio plants idea that Israel dragged them into it, but Trump wanted this all along
>use peace negotiations as a pretext to locate the leadership and kill them all
>3rd time they've done this btw
>It's now all out war
>US bombs everything, but Iran launches missiles
>all US bases in the region damaged
>straight of Hormuz closed, oil prices surge
>interceptors have run out, rockets are hitting Israel
>total media blackout
>US is continuing to bomb everything and bringing in ships
>Iran has slowed down their rate of fire but has tons of supplies
>US fucked up war of words.
>Hegseth saying christian zionist shit
>bombed a school and killed 200 girls, so the whole region hates them
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>>530166204
>can't trust video
>can't trust audio
>can't trust text
we're back to the 1700s fren
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>>530168541
This. Its just an excuse to raise prices.
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>>530166204
not according to plan trusters and 3rd worldists
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>Benjamin Netanyahu announces he has a major surprise for Iran that will completely destabilize the country.
>Netanyahu is asking Iranians to lay down their weapons and surrender or face death.
>Netanyahu says, “The moment of truth is approaching,” and he will free Iran and make Iran and Israel allies.
https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/2030459786135765427

What does this even mean?
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>>530166891
why doesn't anyone else?
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>>530166204
I'm honestly starting to get bored with it.
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>>530173467
You forgot
[Many] school girls (targeted on purpose)
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>>530166204
Natanyahu on fox news addressing the amerilard people felt like a twilight zone moment
I’m not sure we really returned to reality after that
It’s so pathetic that yanks willingly bow down and do the bidding of israel, yet pretend they are free, have free speech and land of the brave, whatever retard thing they’re brainwashed into believing
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>>530166204
>Trying to figure out what is actually happening in this war feels like a fucking fever dream.
The USA horrifically kicked the shit out of iran, they took out like 90 something % of their missile launchers, nearly all of their AA, their entire airforce & most of their navy already and its only been a week. The jews blew up irans entire command structure so now the IRGC is flailing wildly and without orders.
Its not that hard to grasp, mang.
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>>530166941
Israel will definitely use nukes and chemical warfare if they feel existentially threatened
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>>530166204
Are you stupid motherfuckers ready to admit Kamala would have been better yet?
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>>530175419
Study the Iran-Iraq war, and realize what you are up against. You will never succeed in subjugating that shithole. You are fucked, and the Hebrews are finally going to catch it alongside you.
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>>530166204
>Between the media lockdowns, propaganda, and AI slop I have no goddamn clue
That's by design. Have you seen To leave the world behind? It's a good movie
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>>530173275
97% of plastic waste goes into landfills. Plastic recycling is a meme
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>>530175622
I will annex your country, pin you down, and fuck you til you love me faggot. Also how am I wrong?
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>>530175585
Kamala would been a slower process but same result. Trump has the same objectives and he’s just accelerating the process. They’re both managed by the same people.
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>>530175754
The other 3% goes into some fag’s balls
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>>530167107
>everyone is a liar, because they have to be. No, I’ll sit back with a glass of wine
What a fag lol.
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>>530172335
>>530169650

You're arguing with literal retards. The US has helped shoot down 99% of all the missiles shot at our Arab partners. Furthermore, we've already reduced the amount of missiles being shot out of Iran by 90%. The latest cope from the Iranian piss guzzlers is that Iran is saving the good stuff for later. LMAO.
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The fact that Iran shutdown its Internet well before the war started for different reasons means we just aren't getting any info from their side. What's more telling is the Americans flooding every platform with AI, shilling and "we're winning" rhetoric while simultaneously not saying anything tangible. To me this simply means that this is turning into a Ukraine 2.0 situation.

American casualties are much higher than we know, both in terms of manpower and materiel. Iran did not crack and will not crack. America made a fatal mistake, a deep miscalculation. Multiple in fact, but one of the biggest was the assumption that Iran is an authoritarian regime centered around a single person, in the vein of Russia or the US itself. It is not. Iran's everything is centered around islam and ethnic pride, and that's one hell of a combination. It means their system is strong and that individuals are subject to the system, not like how in Russia or America everything is centered on Dear Leader. America cannot defeat this system.

With every day that passes Iran strengthens while America and Israel weaken, in terms of position. The more time passes the more cracks and fissures will develop in America's war. Gulf countries will start to distance themselves, shit will run out, the momentum will wholly run out. Iran is, in fact, counting on America and Israel going for a full invasion. America knows this and that's why it's trying to sucker in Kurds and others into going in first, because the number of deaths will be immense.

What you're staring at is that yes, it is possible to win, but it will need a ground invasion and it'll turn into a mixture of Ukraine 2.0 and Stalingard x1000. This whole war is a collosal mistake and the end of Americas prestige and imperial ambitions. This is their Ukraine, even if they retreat and stop the war right now. They repeated Russia's mistake. Repercussions will be immense.
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>>530166204
Israel is the abomination that causes desolation and they must be destroyed
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>>530168148
some ppl seek truth, some ppl don't feel comfortable being ignorant.
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>>530173429
Imagine thinking they're going to have a food shortage. What absolute retarded drivel. Have you seen a map, they have thousands of miles of roads and alternate ways to get the essentials. Yea, oil is fucked. But thinking they're going to starve to death is pants-on-head retarded.
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>>530166204
iran is winning every u.s. base in the region obliterated, the gcc is kicking out the americans, theyre abandoning the dollar and taking back all u.s. investments, the 6 dead soldiers is a lie germany is reporting over 500
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>>530176011
>no stats except IDF "charts"
is that why the USN isn't in the strait now, protecting tankers?
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>>530173429

It isn't. That's due to the insurance costs rather then irans ability to actually do anything here.

>>530173841

They did slight damage to like one refinery.
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>>530176139
>germany is reporting over 500
May I see the German report?
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>>530176154
>muh IDF charts
It has been stated by CENTCOM. You can also find the general alerts from third party trackers to be going on a downtrend as well. I'm not talking about the Strait. That's another animal entirely.
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>>530167107
It's actually really easy anon.
You take the inverse of the reciprocal of what both sides are saying and subtract the resulting statements from each other and multiply by -1.
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>>530166555
THE MOST RETARDED TAKE

>IRAN LETS CHINESE TANKERS PASS WITH IRANIAN OIL, WHILE THREATENING TANKERS BEARING THE OIL OF OTHER GULF STATES AND BOUND FOR OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES
>BRITS WON'T UNDERWRITE TANKERS OF GULF STATES BOUND FOR OTHER ASIAN COUNTRIES

The Gulf States and other Asian countries now hate Iran and the Brits. Its all academic now because the US is going after Iranian oil production. FAFO.
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>>530176236
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>>530166204
,,
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>>530174900
>>bombed a school and killed 200 girls, so the whole region hates them
people in that part of the world don’t care all that much about girls. That’s very much a western liberal feminist thing.
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>>530167341
Iran is preventing civilians from leaving Dubai and these other countries holding them hostage by lobbing indiscriminate missiles and drones at them. The goal is to get cucked nations on the security council like France or UK to demand a ceasefire

Taking hostages is what Iran has always done because they are pussy assed ragheads but eventually flights will depart once jews and amerisharts blow out their capacities to launch

Then after they will do kidnappings with their proxies in Iraq and elsewhere because once again everything they do involves hostages
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>>530176236
>the german report
You have to dig twitter for reports that hospital near the german base US is staging from is sending paitent to the next closest hospital. Ambulences from walter reed have been seen with escorts. Iranian public doesn't have internet anyways, irgc commanders already know the shit, so the only people the US is lying to is us.
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>>530176442

Seriously nigger
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>>530176051
Pretty sure they shut down the internet to stop drone attacks. Thats a thing these days.
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>>530166204
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOT THE DUBAI CHOCOLATE FACTORY
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>>530175617
Iran Iraq war was a handshake agreement by both regimes to kill off their restless and rebellious young male population(same thing is happening with Ukraine and Russia btw)
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>>530176442
So...where are the reports?
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>>530166204
Truth is always the first causality in ANY WAR.

This shit has many sides, and is not as straight forward as a soccer match (it's more like lesbian relationship drama).
Basically, Trump wants an easy victory because Americans loveeee this bread and circus bullshit.
Iran said Nah-ahn. And started to hit were it hurts (even a 10% oil price increase can make some stuff twice as expensive for Americans)
Russia is doing backflips of happiness because without petrol and gas from the middle east, Europe will be forced to buy from them and pretend Ukraine don't exist (which probably will not longer exist)
China is concerned because they don't want to import oil only from Russia because if they do it, Russia can charge how much they want.
Israel... Well, Israel just want to rape children. Some things never change.
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>>530166204
the actions of maladaptive arab muslim rape spawn were always a mystery.
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>>530176139
wtf, is that real?
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>>530176442
protip: all death reports are one tenth of actual. this is historically the practice
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>>530176854
So there are actually 60 dead Americans and 13000 dead Iranians. Damn. We winning hard.
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>>530175870
Dont tease me with a good time.
> how am I wrong?
Pretty sure she wanted to do the exact same thing as trump but her masters want a forever war.
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We're willing to wipe the slate clean...

Give Israel a fresh start...
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>>530176168
>due to insurance rather than actual capacity.
This is partially true. Iran attacked, sank 3 tankers to prove it, then lloyd's raised their insurance rates some astronomical amount.

Remember how Epstein said the shipping futures market was as big as the market for the goods being shipped? Is anyone watching the whales there? When we find out they destroyed the food supplies of whole countries and starved populations to make money shorting the market, someone os going to have to execute them.
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>>530166204
That's normal
the fog of war
remember the first month or two of Ukraine
both sides claiming victory
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>>530166295
ngl gymnopédies was written by a fag for other fags, literally music to suck cock to.
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>>530176911
no, you report your own deaths at one tenth and multiply the enemy deaths by ten.
I know I said all, but allow me to clarify.
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>>530166204
>Between the media lockdowns, propaganda, and AI slop I have no goddamn clue
Maybe that's the point.
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>>530173841
Wasn't there a claim floating around that saudi's captured Israelis for the Aramco explosion?
I heard a rep from Iran deny that the GCC oil refineries, Turkyie, Azarbaijan (nunchaku? nanjizzm?) airport, was them, he said they were just targetting US shit. something about the way he said it, and the way none of the 11 countries hit retaliated inclines me to believe him.
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>>530166204
>Between the media lockdowns, propaganda, and AI slop I have no goddamn clue
99.9% of the "bad news" is turdie wishcasting, libtard fanfiction or newfags who will believe every post on social media that starts with "BREAKING".
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>>530166204
Just follow you hearth, leaf
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>>530169133
Sucking on a tube to get fluid out of it is gay only if you're male.
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>>530166204
that's by design, psyop they started with covid hasn't ended, testing still going on to find breaking points
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iranian militants don't have to do anything they can just hide in the mountains
everyone in iranian cties are basically innocent civilians that were sucked into this bullshit
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AI and turdworldist wishcasting have made this war the fakest and gayest in human history. Plus with Ukraine we got a lot of kino footage of helicopters being shot down, tank turrets getting sent into space, etc... this war has mostly been just commie blocks getting bomb, F-15 falling from the sky like a sheet of paper, and probably the only kino this entire conflict so far was the frigate that got torp'd.
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>>530174266
how the fuck did the guy filming survive that strike? that was at least 100 feet from him and it was going full speed, he should have been dead
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>>530166204

> Trying to figure out what is actually happening

America is bombing another third world shit-hole.
They need to do that regularly or they get the shakes.
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>>530171746

> Mutt doesn't know the difference between sweet light, sour light and heavy
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>>530166204
Agreed, 100%.
You can take solace in the fact that there's a real world, and retarded propaganda only tricks retards. Even if you believed the butthurt germans, jeets, chinks, or israelis, the fact of the matter is that it's already too late for propaganda.
The conflict is happening, and it's not going anywhere. The dust will settle eventually, and then we'll get to see who is a delusional shill and who isn't. Until then, it's smarter to be detached and to take anyone pretending to be CERTAIN about anything with a grain of salt.
Nobody is certain about anything right now. People who act like there are are either delusional, or they're trying to sell you shit.
Unironically, just be dismissive of anything that isn't incontrovertible fact. Especially be dismissive of anyone who is selling you a narrative. Narrative's are only one stage removed from autistic delusion.
Take this faggot >>530166555
The gulf states are turning against us because Iran is bombing them? Huh? That doesn't make sense. It just doesn't. It's like soldiers are going to love their enemies for shooting at them because their Captain is putting them in danger.
Doesn't sound like any sane person I've ever met. I can accept that I'm wrong, but a lot of these narratives about what's happening over there just seem insanely foolish. As if you should listen to some German pussy about conflict anyway.
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>>530166555
>nothing will happen except some high prices
you are retarded. keep sleeping.
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>>530166204
why do you think governments support AI at all?
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It does seem like they're getting a better grasp on controlling information this time around. US media being in shambles already helped.
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Kuwait had something similar. I think Jarhead was the name of the movie with nice special effects about the oil getting burned up by Saddam iirc.
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Kinda odd Tucker is the only person in the media accusing Israel of false flag attacks on arab nations.
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>>530166204
Kojima predicted all of this 25 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C31XYgr8gp0
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>>530178374
This war looks like a showcase of AI to trigger the AI arms race. Everybody's seeing that if you don't have something that can keep up with the inhuman speed and precision of AI targeting, you're not secure.
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>>530167085
>First rule of war is that truth is always the first casualty.

Whose quote is that?
I can't remember if that's Price or Shepherd?
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>>530175394
why do they wear small hats?
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>>530178017
>The gulf states are turning against us because Iran is bombing them? Huh? That doesn't make sense. It just doesn't.
it makes perfect sense
gulf states trade exclusively in petrodollar. in exchange, US is supposed to protect them. Iran is showing them the US cannot/will not protect them and will hang them out to dry for their special boy israel. thus, they have no reason to hold up their end of the bargain and should just trade in whatever the fuck they want, which in turn would stop the attacks on their completely undefended nigger rich countries that produce nothing but oil. US dominance is almost completely because of the petrodollar, if gulf states pull out, bye bye hegemony. If it works, it's the the end of the US economy.
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To quote armscontrolwonk,

Iran lost the match but was never taken to the floor. Iran lost, but Iran is not KO. Iran will make it to the next match.

The "next match": With each subsequent fight, American Interceptor Missile stocks dwindle. Trump has maybe 8 weeks of Interceptors left. By May Iran can hit all US bases -which are NOT hardened against missile strikes- and Israel directly with impunity. America's economy cannot shift to war production without Trump suspending civilian goods production and forcing civilian companies to make war supplies. This shift will take at least six months due to the labor shortage caused by ICE. Iran can and will shut down all Gulf oil production, removing at least 20% of oil from the market. Russia will win economically and Putin will use every Dollar he gets to buy more Iranian drones, financing Iran's war effort, allowing Iran to replace their missiles faster. Iran is already in a war production economy and can draft their entire population freely because Iranians are not given a choice.

In simpler terms, the longer the war goes on the less chance Trump can win it in any way. If the war is not decisively won by Trump by June, American victory is impossible. By July Iran will have enough drafted soldiers and missiles to march with their Shia Iraqi brothers into Baghdad and remove all Americans from Iraq. Trump will then have to go on the defensive as Iran marches west to Israel. This is when Trump would try a nuke .. but not because the fallout would poison Israel. In this way, the war is completely unwinnable for America/Israel.

By election day, November 3rd, Iran will be striking Israel daily with artillery. Israelis will be flooding Tel Aviv's airport trying to escape as Netanyahu demands a draft. Americans will decide.
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>>530166555
Iran has already won the war.
The US is taking a blow economically that will take years to recover from.
Europe is taking a blow economically, and they all know the US and isrel caused it.
The US has lost a huge amount of standing in the world.
Iran showed we can't protect our allies in the ME.
Iran is expending 10's of millions in military hardware where the US is spending 10's of BILLIONS of dollars in hardware, not including the logistic cost.
Iran has shown it's jews that control the United States.
The US is significantly more vulnerable to any shenanigans China and Russia decide to start.
Trump is essentially begging Iran to come to the negotiating table.
ME countries are pulling their US investments.
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>>530166791
Like all things a serious nation embarks on the goals are multi faceted. A big reason for this attack is control of the strait of hormuz and choking China.
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>>530166791
>US losses
>Bases
>Aprox 15 personal K.I.A
>5 Jets
Forgot one
>total upending of the American economy
Gas prices going up is going to have huge reverberations throughout the US.

Fucking kikes.
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>>530180560
>control of the strait of hormuz
Yeah... How's that working out?
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>>530167403
I bet you really want a cigarette right now. Guess what? Right at this very moment I am smoking a world class Dutch cigarette while you congratulate yourself for forever denying yourself one of life’s sublime pleasures multiple times a day — smoking tobacco. Congratulations, dumb ass.
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>>530180297
Russia won't do shit for Iran zigger lmao
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>>530180638
Not good
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>>530180297
>labor shortage caused by ICE.
Funny how you faggot shills work
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>>530180673
4 hours later and i still dont want nicotine
i havent had any "tobacco" already for at least 7 years.
today was the first day i didnt feel that weird hard to describe complete body feeling of compelling addiction driving me to huff chemicals. that feeling you will experience forever, apparently
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>>530180214
Alright, let's say I enter your house, shoot you, and then start raping your girlfriend. Not that you have a house or a girlfriend, lol, but just imagine.
Is she REALLY going to think, "This is my husband's fault for not protecting me?"
Fucking no. That's as ridiculous as the Germans thinking that the Blitz was going to make native brits turn against their government. Historically speaking, this idea that people will turn on their own government and allies because their enemies are attacking them is asinine and insane.
I think this holds true for Iran too; they're not going to start sucking American chode because they're getting bombed by us. That doesn't make any fucking SENSE.
This shit you're saying is ridiculous. It's some dipshit propaganda fantasy.
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>>530166891
MIGGER mindset.
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>>530166555
>manageable
>food banks overrun with jeet scammers and buying your own is expensive when your landlord takes 90% of your income
>services have shot up including natural gas if you are lucky enough to not have a resistive heating shitbox and still have central heating
>urban centers full of a bunch of seperatist third worlders from Kurds, Ethiopians, every flavor of tribe of Syrians/Afghans, Chinks, Khallistanis
>housing crisis because landlouse problem and mass immigration
>disaffected people and zero community in urban centers other than NIMBY boomers whining and racking up debt
>massive inflation, BOC already commenting that sometimes rates need to rise even in bad times (RE: job losses coming)
>dollar in the shitter by ~30% already
>most young men expected to live like chinks in an illegal dorm situation
>everything has a paywall from camping to healthcare you can't get because the places is full of elderly thirdies dropped off so their income earners can go back to their home country and not pay taxes
>fraud and corruption everywhere
>troons, fags, and left wing lunacy misapporipicating public funds for zero fiscal multiplier and no dry powder to stimulate left because debt rates are so high we are about to get downgraded (at least in BC who is in a massive deficit under Eby even with cooked books from the one off tobacco industry settlements being counted as general revenue)

Surely we can handle ONE MORE giant fucking straw on the camels back fellow goyim. BOOTSTRAPS UP!
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>>530177091
>Leaf doesn't understand ambience music and its beauty.

I've been to Canada and ambience music is perfect for its atmosphere and vibe. Maybe not Satie, but certainly the genre.
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>>530166468
Based take
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>>530177091
Well it’s subtitled “dance of the naked spartan youths” in the original manuscript so unironically ya.
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>>530166295
haven't heard that in years. you made my day. thx bro
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>>530181088
your pseud reddit analogies are irrelevant, iran isn't trying to get "the people to turn against the government" retard. they are trying to make them capitulate to stop hosting US bases and trading in dollars, which will happen as a result of the USA NOT DEFENDING THEM. THEY WILL HAVE NO CHOICE.
if they refuse, they will eat endless drones/missiles that will crush their oil/tourism industry and turn them into yemen-tier shitholes. they don't gaf if they "like" them lmao, what retardation is this? they don't fucking like the being the USA's bitch either, but work with us for MONEY.

>Is she REALLY going to think, "This is my husband's fault for not protecting me?"
apparently you don't know much about women either.
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>>530166204
Is there even a war going on in Iran?
Might as well be faked.
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>>530176764
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