if the iranian regime doesn't fall but iran gets sent to the stone age, will the thirdies on /pol/ still cope that they somehow won?
>>530170927they will reframe >regime doesn't fallas a win moving goalposts is what losers always do they will also, in the same breath, tell you Ukraine has already lost and therefore NATO is finished
>>530171084Covid vaccines was the ultimate goal post moving.
>>530170927WHy are we bombing this shithole again
>>530170927The win condition for Iran is surviving, that’s all. America obviously has more firepower and money, so survival is their victory>>530171576Jews
>>530170927Yes, it 's a win for Iran.
>>530171659>The win condition for Iran is surviving, that’s alllol, like clockwork >>530171084
>>530170927if the regime doesn't fall then how do you open the strait (all they need is pickup trucks and shaheds to close it) ?If they don't open the strait then your economy collapses, how do you call that a win?basically the options are:-1- you occupy the country to take out the regime (goys on the ground)2- ceasefire (neutral outcome)3- get btfo from the me entierly, because you will have to concede to Iran's demand if you want them to willingly reopen the strait.
>>530170927>>530171084>>530171510>day 9 of the 4 day major military operation for regime change in iran
>>530171084>>530171659>>530171734>>530170927unironically with the way they are, even if iran's government is replaced with the Shah they'll call it a win because Iran wasn't partititioned.
>>530170927You should take the jewish cock out of your mouth for one microsecond.
>>530171816I'd assume they'd strike a deal with the favourable elements of the new regime with no regard for iranian citizens.that's really the only way i see this playing out
>>530171816>Iran's nuclear program: rekt>Iran's support for islamic Hamas, Hezbollah: rekt>US concession: the ayatollah's son gets to wear the ring>strait reopened, oil flows mission accomplished, goatfucker
>>530170927>If this thing that hasn't happen does happen, they you'll respond like my strawman responds, which means I'm superiorOP, do you realize when you make these posts you're basically announcing to the world that you have low self esteem and can only get small bits of pleasure from crafting moronic scenarios that boost you above those you know you're inferior to? This kind of thing is why you've been bullied your entire life and will continue to be looked down upon. Find better ways of dealing with your low self esteem.
>>530170927You can't defeat a country with a bombing campaign alone. You need ground troops for that and Trump won't do that. Best he can do is some third world kurds and a handful or two of ISIS, but then with no-one defending Syria it might be back up for grabs.
>>530172084>>Iran's nuclear program: rektyeah that's what the WH claimed in June '25
>>530172276but you can wreck their nuclear program and their support for proxy terrorist groups abroad which is America's goal
>>530171576This shithole has the global economy by the balls. If oil prices go up by 50% banks in thr US will collapse. The Gulf States keep your IT stocks into a bubble, they take their money out- it's over.
>>530171659the funny part is the same shills who use that as a talking point for ukraine will dishonestly attack you for using it in this case.
>>530172337and they had indeed destroyed Iran's centrifuges, just like they claimeddoesn't do anything about the uranium already enriched thoughthats about to be gone too now
>>530172337>if at first you don't succeed, NEVER try againgood luck anon
>>530172360Terrorism isn't real.
>>530172515>Terrorism isn't real.neither was your absent father, yet here you are must be magic
>>530170927How are those Irone Dome, David’s Sling, Arrow and Jacob’s ladder working out for you? Getting kind of thirsty…
>>530171734have you heard the objectives trump set? only one moving goalposts will be trump and nafo cheerleaders like you. there is no way to accomplish the nonsense he will accept as win conditions.
Reddit snark, cringe
>>530170927yeah, next time they'll wait those American ships with a couple of nukes if they survive.
>>530172617Trump talks a lot of shit and it changes daily talking won't unfuck Iran though
>>530171999There are two problems with that> They think they're in a strong position, they put pressure on america by closing the strait that will only grow with time, They won't agree to a ceasfire as they've caught the americans unprepared to deal with the drones, they won't get a second chance like this.> Natanyahu is in the dirver seat, even if an arrangement is reached with america, doesn't mean israel will agree, and if they don't stop the war doesn't stop, bibi clearly stated he wants the state to collapse.>inb4 america will threaten israel if it doesn't stopno they won't, because israel will threaten to nuke iran.
>>530172719Trump can change the objective all he wants it doesn’t mean he has an off ramp. Beyond a certain point, wars become impossible to stop voluntarily, so it’s correct to say that the US does not have a defined way to win the war while the Iranians can clearly define their win as surviving an attack by the global hegemony
>>530171084Losers also make excuses for half baked efforts >Oh I didn't FEEL like putting boots on the ground so I only bombed them for like a couple of weeks>Well I didn't want to spend too much money on the operation so I just cheaped out and called it quits.>I'll be remembered in history anyway so it doesn't matter either way.Sad really...
>>530172084>strait reopened, oil flowslol. how and when if there's no ceasefire? You didn't answer his question. If the US can't force open a strait, they can't even dream of forcing Iran to surrender and regime change. And Iran would be extremely stupid to let a chance like this pass, i.e., holding the world economy hostage until the US is baited to invade or concede, both which are completely suicidal for the amerishart empire.Reminder it's been 10 days now since the Hormuz closed.
>>530172491because its retarded takeRussia and Ukraine almost signed agreement in 2022.Ukraine choose to continue the war because Brits told them to do it, its not about their surviving
>>530170927Because the regime would survive and your goal was regime change.
>>530170927"We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will for ever destroy because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which it is not in your nature to build" ~ Maurice Samuel, "You Gentiles" 1924
>>530172955trump will definitely be remembered in history, as being an orange kike.
>>530170927>if iran doesnt lose will posters act like iran didnt loseit is a mystery
>brown coded>mudslimes>thirdies>shitskins>turdie= Tel Aviv IP speak
