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You're almost 30.

>why have you failed in your sacred duty, anon?
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>>530181936
Anon, I already have a kid...and my wife and I are having another, in August.
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The world doesn’t need more people
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>>530181985
congrats anon, my third is due in august too
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>>530181936
I'm actually almost 40. My oldest is going to be 14 this year and I have him do a set with me whenever I lift.
But all three of my kids know how to shoot.
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>have kids so your wife can leave you and take all your money
>then your kids can be ipad addicts and be social media props for your mom when she takes them and her new chad bf on vacation with your alimony payments
NO
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>>530182002
We're going to kill all of the pajeets openly and stop feeding Africa in the next 5 years, we'll need people after that.
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>>530181936
i'm 35 and have never been on a date or in a relationship
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>>530181936
I require more money.
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>>530181936
im white and all our women are being stolen by indian guys
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>>530182075
>50% chance of being miserable and losing your shit, at least you got kids
vs
>100% chance of being miserable and dying alone

hmm tough choices
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>>530181936
>You're almost 30.
I was a deadbeat dad for over ten years by that point. If you missed out on highschool sex, then you are a complete cuckold and you will never be your woman's first or best in her mind and she will always consider you a cuckold and she will be right
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>>530181936
I have crippling social anxiety and extremely neglectful parents.
Only just starting to recover at 29.
I've never even though about having a gf.
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>>530181936
I just dont see the point to life, anon.
And on top of that you had the inexautible amout of potential pain. How the fuck am I suposed to subject a soul to this? It would be cruel as fuck.
That being said, Iuke to fuck raw and maybe one may slip through and the slut will refuse to get an abortion. Who knows..
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>>530181936
>You're almost 30
I'm over 30
>Why don't you have kids?
I'm 5'7"
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>>530181936
Life after 30 is a slow-motion suicide without family. It's all the negatives of getting old; watching your friends drift away as they start their own families, your parents and siblings getting old and die, watching everything in your life slowly putter out as the magic fades; without any of the positives of things like family or community to shore you up. Everything rots away and you're left with the bleakness of oblivion, no hope of anything continuing. Anyone who has experienced considerable ageing among his family members (or already in himself), knows how blackpilling it is. It's really rough, once people pass their early 50s (or sometimes even sooner) you start to notice the slip-ups, forgetfulness, the declining of fine motor skills, the difficulties understanding new information. Human existence is a tragedy, there are so few years that you are allowed with full mental and physical strength. Your peak years are mostly wasted with education, where you have barely any control over your own life, because you have little to no money nor autonomy. Add to that the time spent sleeping, working, hygiene, housework, shopping, appointments, visits to the workshop - what do we have left? Everyone who has to work for a living basically leads a precarious existence, regardless of whether they are a simple worker or a well-paid employee. Before they have built up a comfortable fortune and a well established understanding of the world, the body goes downhill.
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I haven't. I always log in to do my dalies.
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Imagine filming this intimate moment that should encompass everything you've ever wished for and everything you would ever want and deciding to upload it onto the internet to be slathered at by raging pedophiles, disdainful castratos, jealous infertile neighbours, raping husbands, coprophiliacs, dogfuckers, kidnappers, sadists, boys with pregnancy kinks, the French, etc
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>>530181936
I'm in my mid 30s. Never met a woman who wanted to have kids with me and because you you white knight faggots and your police I can't just kidnap one.
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>You're almost 30.

over 40 actually

it will never happen
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>>530182226
>watching your friends drift away as they start their own families
that's not a thing anymore
over half of the whores in the west are unmarried and facing 50 years of isolation at that point and a graveyard of abortions behind them already
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>>530181936
I'm 21. About 17 years younger than my mom was when she had me. I have lots of time.
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>>530181936
>why don't you live a happy life in a declining era during an economical collapse?
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>>530182159
>50% chance of being miserable
Are you say that men that don't divorced aren't miserable?
>muh kids
The era of having fun raising kids is over. Most just stare at screens all day.
> dying alone
Your kids will just dump you in some nursing home.
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I've asked like 20 women out in my life and they all said no

I genuinely think a lot of them were being retarded about their standards and it has been frustrating
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>>530181936
lots of time
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>>530182358
Have you tried being attractive and tried not being unattractive?
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>>530182049
Congrats, brother. Wife and I are going to have a third also.
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>>530182208
>I'm 5'7"

So.. you refuse to make more manlet or you being a manlat mean not wench wants you?
I dont know what would be funnier.
joke aside, 5'7" isnt that small, come on
There are guys who are I'm 5'5" out there
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The only reason the subnormals who make up this board would want to have kids is to molest them
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>>530182358
I've never been on a date.
I also just friendzoned a girl by flaking on her.
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>>530181936
Im over 30 and Id rather die alone than deal with people
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>>530182350
>all this cope
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>>530182415
I look like Adam Driver
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>>530181936
I don't like girls
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>>530181936
Zoomers are too weak. Gen alpha chads will take their women soon.
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>>530182516
Also I had 5 GFs between 20-25 none of them wanted children or could sustain a healthy relationship
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My wife just left me because she doesn’t want to have kids anymore because of her aspirations of becoming an influencer. Life really sucks right now.
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Did what I could, but I'm not compromising. If I can't find that perfect romance then I'm gonna keep skateboarding, playing old vidya, writing novels, and helping the community. Sadly, not a lot of younger girls or even girls my age go to Church or non-profits so in the end I just keep finding new fulfilling things in life and working on myself because you feel better when you do. If Ms. Right shows up, cool. If she doesn't, I'll be okay.
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>>530182450
India is meant to uplift Israel SAAR! INDIA IS ISRAELS GREATEST ALLY SAAR!
>>530182552
>I look like a jew
I agree with the dumb whores. You should gas yourself.
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>>530182226
>the difficulties understanding new information

I understand computers so Im good.
When taking the time to learn, you can understand anything. We have very old doctors and engineers who stay up to date with their changing fields.
you are being dramatic.
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>>530181936
>almost 30
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>>530182525
You aren't operating in reality you dumb faggot. Gen alpha are complete device addicts that can't read and were screaming 6 7 like retards a month ago. It will only get worse going forward. And women are getting more demanding with social media being nothing but a "how come I don't get to go on fancy vacations, to 5 star restaurants, or have 6 foot tall chad that makes $800k a year?"
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>>530182658
>>>530182552 (You)
>>I look like a jew
>I agree with the dumb whores. You should gas
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>>530182084
Delusional. Capitalism rules the world and killing people is bad for business
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>>530181936
I’m 35 and have nothing.
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>>530182281
Find a bitch who doesnt use contraception. Date her, fuck her raw (find another one if she wont fuck you raw). Find out when she is ovulatin and cum in her by accident. profit. Am i the only one with a brain in this thread?
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>>530182303
so are you friends with those ageing whores? want to be friends with them?
I'd rather not and they ain't waiting for anyone
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breederfags are cooked, typical roastie is non-virgin and has porn of her stored in other guys phones, and wear skin products on her face and lips made out of mutilated kids foreskins

BRUTAL

>>530182084
and then youll wake up
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>>530182794
Women that don't want a kid see an abortion as the ultimate form of feminist expression you fucking retard.
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>>530182358
>I've asked like 20 women out in my life and they all said no

bro, this is the amount of random babes i cold approach in an afternoon while taking brakes and messing around. get your shit together, increase that work rate, get into daygame aka cold approach pickup
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>>530182437
>5'5"
>In Belgium
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>>530182892
>get into daygame aka cold approach pickup
What a dumb lying faggot you are
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>>530181936
feet
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I am 5'4 and approaching 40. Of course I have never had sex.
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How old is the average /pol poster?
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>>530183073
Probably 30s these days, any originalfags that are still around who weren't underage when they found 4chan are probably in their 40s now.
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>>530182868
lmao this is the problem with terminal onlines incels.
the world is vast, disconnect.
plenty of women refuse to kill their babies once they get preggos
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>>530181936
Hello manlets I am 6'0 or 183 cm which makes me a manlet below average height for a man here in this region of Europe but I have fucked ~40 women and have 4 kids with my 10 years younger wife.
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>>530182928
ok..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCGsWSQEn2o
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>>530182226
Black pilled but contains a few truths
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Another Kike thread for promoid foids. Mossad wanna to you speed your life in Israel and fucking her lilith sucubus, die ik war and then your sucubus will fuck tryon or you Will rise someone son. Peobably Tyron.
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>>530183062
>5'4"
>in Sweden

poor soul
you see, this is the existential anguish i was talking about
your parents are criminals or you are an unlucky bastard who lost the genetic lottery. either way, why risk it? why have kids?
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>>530183271
if the premise is false and jewishfaggoted demoralizationfaggotry it contains zero truths you self replying pajeet on a faggot vpn
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>>530183200
Which region you uninformative jackass? Netherlands?
The manlet thing is mostly online phenomenon. irl plenty of manlets date women. maybe the women arent happy but they are still spreading their legs
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>>530182159
only women stress and worry about being alone.
>"must be a miserable life?"
>"its a great life."
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>>530181985
Congrats
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>>530181936
No, I'm almost 50. Boss said if I work real hard next year I'll get a 0.50/hour raise.
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>>530182270
Which one of those are you Anon?
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>>530183401
this, women are insufferable
>"nooo you aren't allowed to pursue your hobbies you have to spend all your time and money on my dumb shit. btw I cheated on you"
never again and glad of it
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>>530181936
BECAUSE EVERY WOMAN IN MY AREA HAS ALREADY FUCKED NIGGERS.

I REFUSE TO BREED WITH A FUCKING NIGGER LOVER.

MY GENETICS WILL AT LEAST DIE WITH DIGNITY.
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>>530181936
It's quite simple really - I ask a girl out, she dodges with excuses instead of saying no, or I get friendzoned until I lose interest. Rinse and repeat a million fucking times over a period of 20 years. I'm done. With all of it.
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>>530181936
People have been in the entire history having children out of necessity for survival.
As a man spending your week-end blowing on drugs and banging hooker is a far better life than being a "family man"
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I started late but got two boys and a wife
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>>530181936
Thats Abbie Shapiro isnt it
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>>530181936
Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry?

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually fuck her in every hole.

Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to fuck her tight pussy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.

As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically
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>>530181936
I'm 41 and have two teenage kids
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>>530181936
I'm undesirable
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>>530182057
let me live in a shed in your backyard
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>>530181936

Most men want to have a family, but most men also do not want to start one with some alpha widowed whore. Stable family life is only possible for handsome, tall men of any financial status. If you are “sub-par” your marriage will only ever be a woman’s second choice. Accept reality, or play games your whole married life, wondering what’s wrong.


So if you are Chad, get married and procreate!
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>>530183504
>date a woman
>she makes you give up your hobbies to watch netflix and take her out for dinner twice a week
>even when she's doing nothing, you have to do nothing with her or she whines
>dumps you because "you got boring"
Fuck man, so much it's unreal.
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>>530182161
Bellowed those coals she raked you over, eh?
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when feminism ends and all the bullshit it created dies with it I will have kids, keep me posted, bye
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>>530181936
First baby coming any day now.
>>530182002
*doesn't need any more brown people
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>>530183564
but .. but .. think about the white race, save the write race !
think about the next draft. who will they draft uf no kids?
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>>530183696
I saw a Chad the other day while working my wagie job. It made me as angry as a Klingon. I wish I had my bat'leth at the time.
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>>530181936
that lifestyle requires substantial wealth and income
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>>530182717
>the kids say 6 7 aaaaaaaa thats why ive failed!
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>>530181936
33 years young here. Never dated because I hate people. What did I miss out on?
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I can't. It's a sin to orocreate out of wedlock.
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>>530183382
Baltics. I am routinely mogged every time I go to the office or mall because every guy is at least 6'3 but most are even taller than that.
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Only timmy has failed. I am fucking white women already a few of these are impregnated.
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>>530181936
>failed in your sacred duty
Of kicking out the Jews?
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>>530181936
if you had any understanding of existence, you wouldn't have children like a retard
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>>530181936
Not 39 yet.
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>>530184015
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>>530181936
I'm bipolar. I don't want my instability to affect a child. I work hard and take my meds but still I'm not in a place where I can take the risk yet. I'll get there doe. And you?
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>>530181936
Anon, I have implemented a system for raising a kid in this modern day and age.
>No small screens - before the age of 13 small screens are off limits. An hour of cartoons a day on the tv are ok
>Involvement - pay attention to your kid, talk to him, play with him every day
>Go outside - make sure your kid spends time outdoors a lot
>Go play - get a small range of versatile toys for your kid to use
>Excersise - physical activity. Enroll your kid in some sport
>Reward system - reward good behavior, punish unwaned behavior

Still looking for a name. Any ideas anons?
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>>530181936
Plot twist: Women are all vaxxed
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>>530183073
too old to be browsing 4chan
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already past 30, I think I'm unfit to be in a relationship let alone act as a father so for the time being I'm expecting to quietly take these genes out of the pool, while taking a chunk of the memes with me too
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>>530182159
>>100% chance of being miserable and dying alone
Lmao this pussywhooped nigga becomes miserable without a woman paying attention to him
>doesn't go out, travel, have drugs and booze, lift, play sports, eat good
You are not gay but you are a massive faggot. The number one thing they say about relationships is if you're a loser alone, you'll be a loser married. Women absorb the energy that guys already radiate.
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>>530181936
I had my first kid at 37.
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having a wife and child is the ultimate goytrap. Once you're locked in like that, guess what. You HAVE to work your wagecuck job until you die, you HAVE to pay your mortgage. It's basically slavery. It's highly suspicious that they're pushing this before you're even 30
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>>530181936
Young moms are the sexiest thing in the world
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>>530182552
Adam Driver isn't attractive, women lust after anything famous.
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>>530185327
how long did you date before?
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>>530182892
Bait used to be believable
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>>530181936
Western women are unmarriageable whores
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>>530181936
Shilling on 4chan why men are single won't magically make them have kids
Stupid Jew
I hope u die all skinned alive or other painful methods
I bless pissrael with complete annihilation
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>>530181936
I did my duty.
Foid decided some drunk pothead tradies cock was better.
My son doesnt even speak to her anymore and we basically live together as bachelors.
Fuck you.
Remove all womens rights.
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>>530182002
There's maybe a billion people in the world, surrounded by 7 billion subhuman apes that want to kill us. We'll need a lot more people to survive.
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>>530184320
if you involve a foid in that she will fuck it all up.
This doesnt get better until we make women property again.
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>>530181936
Shut the fuck up.

>>530182002
(((You)))
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>>530181985
congrats anon. my wife has been unpregnant for about a year and a half now so I think it's time to remedy that as well. 2 down so 3 more and i will consider my 2x white replacement duty fulfilled. i will also be instructing and encouraging them to marry by age 20. i will be ensuring the American taxpayer is on the hook at least partially for all of them
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>>530182002
>The world doesn’t need more people
*niggers, jeets and jews
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I have failed in my duty because I was a complete loser without a job during my 20s and finally getting my shit together in my 30s. I want kids and a wife, but you have to have a foundation for that.
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>>530181936
>You're almost 30.
I am over 30

>why have you failed in your sacred duty, anon?
Because goverments banned slavery and i cant buy a slave girl that will give birth to my babies. And i am too autistic to have any other options.
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>>530181936
Cause I'm a zoomer and zoomettes are hard to date
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>>530181936
I have a loving japanese wife. Will put 3 babies in her soon using my cum , dont worry
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>>530186001
Its objectively 50x worse than it was in the early 2000s. Its like women are getting more and more retarded with every generation.
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>>530186031
butterface bruh
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>>530181936
bro i never touch my kid like that thats fuckin weird. My kids are 10 years old I got them both smartphones when they were 7 and they spend most of their time in their rooms out of my hair so i'm cool with it
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they just never liked me enough to date much less have a family with
what can I do
Im mid 30s now
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>>530186190
>average millenial retard parent
disgusting
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>>530182208
become a sperm donor, have your revenge on the world
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ugly, sinner, 2k/month job
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>>530186220
i was joking bro i'm 36 childless atm but not some childfree weirdo. im just broke atm but I'm down
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I have 18 kids, that I know of. Probably more.
>how
Genetic (read: sperm) donor.
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>>530186230
Sperm donors usually have to be 6ft, there are requirements.
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>>530186290
kek i thought u were being serious.
im 41 and a single dad to a teen son and its scary how uninvolved most parents are with their kids.
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>>530181936
fuck you theseus
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>>530182717
Thanks for not breeding, imagine how whiny your dysgenic little fuck kids would be with you as a father lmao
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>>530182226
My sister has kids with mental issues, her life is more miserable than mine.
Also she's divorced because the father was violent.
I would never forgive myself for bringing a new person into a doomed society.
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>>530183583
Cool! I'm 41 and I haven't had a gf in ten years
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>>530181936
Literally never met a woman who was even remotely interested in having kids.
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>>530183880
Listen to this cope. Clearly your kid is some faggot gen alpha that stares at a screen all day and regurgitates whatever shit the screen tells him to say.
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>>530183186
>plenty of women refuse to kill their babies once they get preggos
You are so fucking retarded. Those are the "want kids someday" girls. The "I never want kids" women are getting abortions. Dumb dumb.
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>>530181936
>31
>try my luck in Asia
>girls are approaching and wanting to pay for ME almost daily
>at one point I had 6 girls and they all agreed to a gangbang
>meanwhile in the west I can barely scrape together a first date
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>>530181936
have a mental illness, sorry anon
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>>530186574
By the sounds of things, you're looking for gangbangs, not a serious relationship. The white women were probably right to avoid you, given that they probably were looking for a serious relationship. Or were you hoping to turn that gangbang with junglegooks into a serious relationship?
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>>530181936
>35 and still virgin
>5'4
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>>530186574
>girls
Those might be guys. And in Asia they are always playing the long game. Once you put a ring on them you are fucked financially.
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>>530181936
raised and left the nest.
I miss them
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>>530186001
>$2000 a month min.

lmao if you're not making 6 figures by 25
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>>530186450
white women just love picking losers lol
>>530186574
Degenerate and disgusting.
>>530186760
I bet your live on welfare.
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>>530186434
>Thanks for not breeding, imagine how whiny your dysgenic little fuck kids would be with you as a father lmao
The current fathers like you are raising little faggots addicted to screens.
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>>530181936
I live in a Canadian liberal shithole city full of libtarded women. Dating has only led me to meeting countless insufferable liberal women, so I stopped dating entirely and focused on myself. I’ve done well but I need a little bit longer and a better financial base before I can move to a better area with more breedable women who are in line with me ethically and morally. I equate the idea of breeding one of these foids in my city as literal genetic suicide and I don’t intend on spending the next few decades watching my future children grow into gay, emasculated, degenerates.
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>>530182075
is that what happened to you? What did you do to make her do that?
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>>530187027
>I’ve done well but I need a little bit longer and a better financial base before I can move to a better area with more breedable women who are in line with me ethically and morally.
This statement makes zero sense. Liberal women are in big cities, which is where you are if you are dating them. If you live in a big city you have money (or at least enough money to move to wherever it is in Canada where these trad women exist)
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>>530187134
>is that what happened to you? What did you do to make her do that?
Nope. Never married. No kids. But I've seen it happen to people I know. You are denying reality if you think this isn't a very likely scenario.
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>>530187180
dont be a piece of shit maybe?
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>>530181936
no, i'lm almost 40. i love kids, but i never wanted any of my own. who the fuck knows why.
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>>530187214
>dont be a piece of shit maybe?
r/divorce response right here.
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>>530182002
We need more people and less subhumans
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>>530182159
>being alone is miserable
lol, roastie detected. men do not feel that way unless they are low-t beta simps. only women feel that way. loneliness isn't even a factor for men.
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>>530186921
I already thanked you for doing everyone a favor and keeping your pussy seed out of the genepool, what the fuck could you possibly be kvetching about now? Like a goddamn woman with the nagging.
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>>530187312
>I already thanked you for doing everyone a favor and keeping your pussy seed out of the genepool, what the fuck could you possibly be kvetching about now? Like a goddamn woman with the nagging.
No reddit gold for you here, faggot.
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>>530181936
I don't care about the milestones you pulled out of your ass.
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>>530182086
Tonsure yourself bro
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>>530187138
By better area I did mean outside of the city. Maybe you thought of area as a different neighbourhood or something. I mean move to a different province and be outside of the cities.
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>>530187341
>a middle aged man deeply involved in interwebsite rivalries between reddit and 4chan
Hahahahaha jesus fuck, dude is talking about screen addicts when he's not at all capable of framing anything in his life outside of the context of social sites. We don't just need freaks like you to not breed, we need annual cullings or something where people go to stadiums and watch you get beaten to death by niggers or something.
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>>530183713
hey man, all these men you see with wives, and i know a few, are cucked. it's part of life if you want to have kids and a wife. there's nothing wrong with it, but what you're describing is part of it if you want wife/kids. it's not for everyone, you can't have the best of both worlds. i've had like 7gfs in my life, one was 5 year r/s, two were 3-4 years, rest were shorter. i just got bored, it was always the same thing. sex got boring, they started nagging, they started having expectations meanwhile i wasn't allowed to have many back.

i'm single now, 39, happy. i own a house and an apartment, no mortgages, net worth 1.5 mil usd roughly. i don't date, it's just not fo rme. being a high iq rational man (i guess some would say autistic, i tested 146 at 15) doesn't work well with women, they just get annoying. literally the only thing i miss now and then is sex. but i'm too moral to do escorts so i'm fine not having it. it's not that big a deal.

also love kids but never felt the need to have any of my own. life can be great with and without kids, anyone telling you that one way or the other is the right way to go is a low-empathy low-iq douchebag.
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>>530187287
>>530187287
based. now demand that she show tits
>pepe_sith.jpg
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>>530181936
The world doesn't need my dysgenic ass to pass on my genes. It's literally not my responsibility.
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>>530183138
newfag here, almost 19
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>>530187502
>Hahahahaha jesus fuck, dude is talking about screen addicts
All this projecting.
>when he's not at all capable of framing anything in his life outside of the context of social sites.
You are clearly some reddit leftist, I'm sorry you don't have the self awareness to see it.
>. We don't just need freaks like you to not breed, we need annual cullings or something where people go to stadiums and watch you get beaten to death by niggers or something.
Your wife is fucking Tyrone right now you retard and your son is tiktoking it.
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>>530187607
>memflag
yeah we dont need anymore jews, thanks.
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>whites too busy moping about how bad the economy is
>Abdul has 9 kids and collects $5k in welfare a month

my race is a bunch of soft pussies.
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>>530182159
>votes for women
lol
lmao even
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>>530187502
Calm down faggot. He is allowed to share his views. You are wrong for insulting him and not even explaining why
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>>530187643
>no u
>reddit
>cuck fantasy
This is not an actual person, this is a poorly coded /pol/PC bot kek
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>>530181936
30 years old virgin, never had a GF, never kissed, never held hands.
How fucking over is it for me ?
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>>530187739
>He is allowed to share his views
He shouldn't be and neither should you. Spare me your liberal egalitarian bullshit.
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Antinatalists deserve the rope
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I married an Ecuadorian woman who immigrated here in 2010 and we're expecting twins in June.
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>>530187822
height?
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>>530181936
I would hunt these for sport if it were legal in minecraft.
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>>530187287
Single white men have some of the highest suicide rates on earth, you're retarded.
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>>530186755
Thank you for your duty to the white race. Don't stop.
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>>530187972
those are loser men who want a woman but cant get one dude
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>>530187792
>This is not an actual person, this is a poorly coded /pol/PC bot kek
Says the guys with one or two word green text responses.
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>>530187972
Dude, you're such a fucking faggot. I wouldn't give up being a white man for anything in the world, even if that meant being single for the rest of my life.
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>>530188124
>single for the rest of my life
start sucking dicks and you'll never be lonely
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>>530188050
You're only in your 30s, you'll probably join them one day. Most of the wine aunts you see don't realize it's over for them until their 40s.
>>530188124
You sound oddly emotional over a simple fact being stated. Women go wine aunt when reality hits, guys like Sven here kill themselves. It is what it is.
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>>530188251
>You sound oddly emotional
Leftard response.
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Jew
And communists
Then the bankers.
Kill every single one.
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>>530181936
I'm actually 38
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>>530188123
I can't imagine being so fucking deracinated and useless that my entire identity is trying really hard to not come off as a redditor to impress strangers on 4trans KEK. What a dogshit way to spend your midlife crisis you fucking failure.
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>>530188448
I didn't realize bleeding out your vagina with feelings in response to facts was the right wing thing to do. Thanks for correcting the record, lil lady.
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>>530188509
>that my entire identity is trying really hard to not come off as a redditor to impress strangers on 4trans KEK.
Oh boy
>"YOU ARE TRYING HARD NOT COME OFF AS A REDDITOR"
"4TRANS, get it 'TRANS'"
Back to r3ddit, faggot.
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>>530188562
All this nonsense to hide the fact that you say shit like "oddly emotional"
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>>530188627
>YOU. ARE. A. REDDITOR.
>YOU. ARE. A. REDDITOR.
>YOU. ARE. A. REDDITOR.
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>>530188658
>triggered by words like a leftist tranny
What a strange post.
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>>530188707
>triggered
More of those leftist words
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>>530188707
This is why I suggested annual purges of "people" like him kek. I don't know what the fuck about him he thinks is right wing.
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>>530188677
Stop acting like one
>4TRANS
This says it all.
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>>530181936
I tried. Got really close. Girlfriend decided she'd rather become a pooner because her new friends said it's trendy.
When I saw what happened to her, I knew I didn't need anything anymore, I'm done with everything.
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>>530187884
1m73
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>>530188761
>I don't know what the fuck about him he thinks is right wing.
So you're one of those right wingers that isn't from r3ddit that calls this place 4TRANS?
Ok bud
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>>530188782
>only a redditor would call me a tranny
Stop crying you limp wristed eunuch
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>>530182002
>he fell for the cuck psyop
do us all a favor and an hero yourself. You are just a waste of space and resources as it is anyway. Pathetic, useless even
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>>530182270
You will have obtained true innocence when that doesn't even cross your mind. Losers don't matter.
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>>530181936

I already have 2 daughters.

t. 37 year old
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>>530188820
>>only a redditor would call me a tranny
You didn't call me a tranny, you called this board "4TRANS". Clearly you are a tourist.
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>>530188811
>YOU DISRESPECTED 4CHAN'S PRONOUNS REEEEEEEEE
Are you ever not fucking crying? Goddamn your father figure was either a homo or completely absent. If you have a dad post his address, I'm going to have a little chat with him.
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>>530188946
>this board
This isn't the 4chan board you fucking Somali tier nigger.
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>>530188950
>>YOU DISRESPECTED 4CHAN'S PRONOUNS REEEEEEEEE
I never said that. You have zero reading comprehension. You clearly implied that this board is some tranny board, something a redditor would say.
>If you have a dad post his address, I'm going to have a little chat with him.
This is real mental illness.
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>>530181936
Keep using the wrong hole.
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>>530188985
>This isn't the 4chan board you fucking Somali tier nigger.
4chan, the entire site, is an anonymouse IMAGEBOARD you fucking retard.
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>>530188988
>this board is some tranny board
Because of you, you pussy.
>only redditors dislike trannies
This poofter is losing his shit kek
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>>530181936
>sacred duty
According to whom? I just don't care.
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>>530189026
>Because of you, you pussy.
So me myself made this entire board a tranny board? Oh boy, that's some logic right there.
>This poofter is losing his shit kek
Only redditors dislike 4chan
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>>530189016
>the entire site
You mean the site that has an /lgbt/ board? And you're offended like a gay little bitch that I called it 4trans when there's a dedicated tranny board. Lmfao. Go back to the Quality Learing Center you 75 IQ fuck.
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>>530189066
Your HRT has created an aura of estrogen and made the whole site gayer than AIDS
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>>530181936
Ana de Armas has no kids whatsoever, she is 37yo and that's her nephew.
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>>530189076
>You mean the site that has an /lgbt/ board?
I never go there. Clearly you are a regular there and /mlp/ probably as well.
> And you're offended like a gay little bitch
All this tough guy talk. SAD
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>>530189103
>aura
Zoomer detected.
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>>530181936
God I wish my wife was this slim
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>>530189130
>Quality Learing Center inbred immediately starts listing all his favorite tranny boards
KEK he's telling on himself.
>>530189154
>brags about being an old lonely trooned out faggot obsessed with reddit and anime
How long ago did your parents kill themselves lmfao. Holy shit, imagine having you as a (man)child.
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>>530187354
>milestones you pulled out of your ass.
You're right anon!

>being a fat gay loser who is unemployed and watches porn all day is just as valid as picrel.
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>>530189245
>KEK he's telling on himself.
Says the who literally brought up a tranny board first....
Zero self awareness. SAD
>How long ago did your parents kill themselves lmfao. Holy shit, imagine having you as a (man)child.
r/toughguytalk SAD
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>>530181936

how the fuck out of touch are the israeli's if they come to 4chan and say we're "almost 30" lmfao you missed that train by 10 years retard faggot bitch
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>>530189281
>lecture people about life
>by sitting on lol and screaming at anonymous strangers all day
get a mirror anon
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>>530189320
Your parents should've at least done the world a favor and honor killed you before they killed themselves kek. The collective IQ and T levels of this country would receive a noticeable bump with your death.
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>>530189421
>Your parents should've at least done the world a favor and honor killed you before they killed themselves kek. The collective IQ and T levels of this country would receive a noticeable bump with your death.
One of the saddest and most delusional posts I've ever read.
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>>530187560
>it's part of life if you want to have kids and a wife
This. I've had numerous gfs, a body count more than double the national average, and the longest one also lasted 5 years. There's a certain lack of self respect you need to have as a man while having zero boundaries to survive in this gynocentric dating environment with the desire of having children. Vocal minorities on here love to scream about their special case of marrying their highschool sweetheart, when it's likely less than 10% of all modern pairings. These are the insufferable "wife guys" you're probably acquainted with. I gave that last 5 year relationship a final chance of starting something serious, but threw in the towel when that ended. I'm just done. Like you, I kinda miss bagina, but I'm not gonna die without it

People are gonna have kids without me doing so. I'm just one guy
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>>530182159
Everybody dies alone anon
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We aren't wild animals. Reproduction is probably the lowliest of aspirations in this day and age. Some people are meant to bring in new life, some are meant to change the world in other ways, and many people have no purpose at all. That's the world we made.
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>>530186001
that's because they think they ARE their body and nothing more. They don't have great ideas anymore, no purpose or goal beyond the lifespan of this rotting pile of flesh.
Zommettes will get BTFO when they het the wall at 26. Everyone will be able to hear the ploinking noise from their labia dragging across the floor when they approach.
A lost generation.
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>>530181936
>>why have you failed in your sacred duty, anon?

What duty? According to whom? Im not even some kidfree fag, I just dont care, if it happens ok, if not also ok. Wont go out of my way to chase some foid just to have kids tho.
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>>530187027
Watch out if you plan on finding a rural girl. I'm in chudville, and the demographics here are like 2:1 male/women. And the competition is crazy because the dudes out here are actually men. I call it "dating hell" living in the sticks

Your best bet is finding an apolitical chick before the feminist void claims her, then move to the country already in an established relationship
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>>530181936
AUTISM
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the exact moment i moved out and became an independent and productive young man, multiple mentally ill family members imploded their own lives and insisted i come rushing to their aid. as it is gravely immoral to abandon your family, i pointed my productivity in the direction to assist them

its been almost a decade and i am still having to gently guide these mentally ill people to a place of stability and self sustainment, albeit with less and less intervention needed on my part. they have reached a more stable place over time

in summary, at no point in my entire adult life have i ever been in a position where i had the free time and opportunity to court a woman-- the entire concept is a foreign and alien notion
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>>530182226
Nigger I'm 30 and have been thinking about killing myself since I was 10 buck the fuck up and do some stimulants
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>>530187972
Only because divorced men fall in that category
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>>530189598
muslim children don't
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>>530189281
>why have you
But boomie, that's what you demanded from everyone arriving after you. What are you mad about now?
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>>530183574
Men these days are weak and desperate for pussy, having a daughter could have some leverage over them
Something to think about...
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>>530189835
>>530189675
>>530189558
>>530189030
>I have no duty
>I'm going to watch Abdul have 9 kids while I die alone
>I'm the saviour of the white race, btw

/pol/tards really are pathetic morons
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>>530182084
Two weeks
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>>530182226
The human condition really is a tragedy. But the biggest mistake you made is thinking it would be better with a family. It comes down to this: One either chooses to be unattached, and have total freedom in how they conduct their lives, but one must sacrifice for this their sense purpose, and become a fluttering moth searching for light with no sense of direction. The alternative is succumbing to your biological programming, finding purpose in fulfilling nature but losing any and all choice in life, thus becoming a cog in the ever grinding machine of humanity. Both options are excrutiating, and will make you yearn for the alternative not realizing it is just as bad. Only the rare exceptional breed of man finds how to bridge these two, but even they are more likely than not to die unhappy
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>>530181936
>You're all loner incel losers
Bro, dude who broke the news about Epstein's death was an EMT and he did it on here
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>>530190810
Nah. The problem is Westoids treat their GFs and marriage like it runs off of "love" and other perfumey nonsense.

>You find a wife
>you fuck her until she produces an acceptable number of kids (4 minimum)
>you co-share a space and leave enough room to reasonably maintain your own areas

Instead, Westoid men behave like bitch-made cucks constantly concerned with pleasing their wives so she won't open up Tinder and replace him with the 100s of simps waiting in line. Muslims don't do that. For them, women is property. She provides you babies, cooks, and cleans. Romance is optional. You are expected to maintain a life outside of her.
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>>530190038
You're me. Except i courted countless w*men and they're all mentally ill freaks borderline archdukes of hell that deserve none of my time and effort. Im dating a waitress from the local pub now and she's suspiciously interested and nice. I will batter down her walls and find out if she's a demonic witch whore before i make any serious moves though. Also she's super cute and well mannered.
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>>530191019
Still a slave to a woman
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>>530186450
God I hate anti-natalists so much it's unreal.
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>>530182208
Me too, but I have a child and the wife and I are planning for #2.
My younger brother is like 5,5' and his son is turning 10 soon.
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>>530181936
I got shit genes that made me suffer my whole life, I'm not going to force someone else to experience that.
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Over 30. I think I just missed my opportunity and it's way too late for me now. Can't tell you how miserable I feel whenever I face the fact that I will remain childless for the rest of my life, even though I suppose it's my own fault. But at the same time I'm not sure if I would've been a good father, I'm too choleric and too much of a complete asshole. Still, the hole in my chest is there. I just pray that the Lord will have pity on me, that is all.
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>>530182084
If that happens I'll reverse my vasectomy.
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>>530181936
she left me overnight, wtf was i supposed to do
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>>530181936
im poor and ugly and mentally retarded

even if i could find a woman willing to reproduce with me why would i

so i can have a poor ugly retarded mini me that's going to lead the same doomed existence?

why reproduce if you're a broke dysgenic retard. that's what dysfunctional white trailer trash do with zero forethought into the future


there's no scenario where me reproducing improves anything at all for myself or society

not that i give a fuck in the first place
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>>530191681
Lol, posted that pic all the time in cvg breads
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>>530181936
I have 3 kids, my views didn't change, its not worth it. Its like having pet except they develop very slowly and are far dumber.
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>>530191095
true tard wranglers dont have the time and energy to court a dozen women

stolen valor tard wrangler you are
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>>530182159
Men are solitary creatures by nature, we do not rely on herds for protection like women. If you feel the need to be in a herd, you have been feminized. I can't stand being around women other than for sex, and I can't stand 99% of men. I have 2 male friends who I can trust with my life and that's enough.
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>>530181936
>almost 30
newfag
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>>530190618
>>530191294
have you even seen the state of the people doing the mass reproduction on this planet?
>I'm going to watch Abdul have 9 kids while I die alone
exactly im not going to condemn my perfect beautiful smart intelligent children to cleaning up after those fucking shitskins. did you ever stop to think for a second youre doing your kids a favor by NOT bringing them into this god forsaken hell on earth?
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>>530181936
Turning 40 this year, all have weird Kids, weird relationships…
Sometimes the sacred Duty is to Not worsen it. I have a niece, smart enough to Rebell against her parents and the people and since im into Gold/silver, im Not scared beyond the Well being of my niece and my cat. One has claws and the other one turns 8 this year, so she‘ll get my old trusty air rifle.
My holy Duty is defending, what is left that is good. Everything Else will Fall into place, be it one way or the other
Sieg Heil
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>>530191980
This is absolutely not true. Solitary men live significantly shorter lives than married men. Skinship is extremely important. But even more than that, duty is fundamental for a men, be it as a provider, as a protector, a teacher, what have you. Men do not exist in a vacuum and every single aspect of our lives is fundamentally related to other people. The lie of the solitary men was one of the greatest psyops ever made, there's nothing credible about it, it's just propaganda to distract you from the great tragedy of modernity.
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>>530181936
I'm 30 and still working on my career. I plan to have a family in my later 30s ideally when I am financially secure and can provide for them. Too many broke pieces of trash pump out babies who just grow up to repeat the cycle of mindless trash. The world doesn't need more people in general, it needs more people of good conscience, wisdom and intelligence. If you just pump out a bunch of god damn kids but can't afford to raise them properly (and this means not living in some trashy fucking ghetto collecting food stamps) DON'T BOTHER. FUCK KIKES AND DEATH TO AMERICA. ALSO HEIL HITLER.
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>>530192156
Sounds like you've had too many onions, anon
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>>530181936
my country rewards subhumanism, I would never subject my kids to that
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>>530181936
>>why have you failed in your sacred duty, anon?
I'm working on it as we speak, a bit more patience
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>>530192333
I have no idea what you're even trying to say. But I suspect that it's nothing at all. Solitary men is a consequence of a diseased society, it is not a natural state of being. You just intuitively think it is because men are typically way more anti-social than women are, but this isn't the same as men systematically not forming families and not thriving in certain social environments or functions. It's bizarre to me how people fell for this meme.
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>>530181936
I keep missing
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>>530186230
If it's not rejected outright the recipient has access to information regarding you including images of your appearance, details of your health, height, weight, and miscellaneous notes taking during the interview.
Basically you are wasting your time unless you're chad, at which point just have kids normally.
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>>530192308
This reads like a parody. But just in case you're not being ironic, people who actually had kids when they were "broke pieces of trash" are already infinitely better people than you are. You think you're being smart and you think you're being prudent, but all that you're doing is hurting your nation, your race, your political goals and ultimately yourself. You have no right to criticise anyone who is a parent.
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>>530192081
>ancestor's bloodline of thousands of years
>ended because anon wanted to goon to tranny porn and complain about jews online
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>>530192516
Men are designed to spread their seed, it's why we have billions of sperm available at all times while women only have one egg. There are twice as many women who have gotten to breed compared to men throughout human history, so we are actually returning to the natural state of humanity.
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>>530191980
>Men are solitary creatures by nature
lol the fucking shit you retards come up with

yeah keep being an ebin mysterious loner your entire life

the group will always BTFO losers
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>>530192708
Because those men died from war and those women were raped. That's not the case now.
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because I'm a sub5, ugly and I look like a poojeet (even though I am not one)
I wanted to be father and have like 10 kids, but that's over for me
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>>530182002
I remember this
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>>530192708
>Men are designed to spread their seed, it's why we have billions of sperm available at all times while women only have one egg.
I'm very not sure what you're trying to say here.
>There are twice as many women who have gotten to breed compared to men throughout human history, so we are actually returning to the natural state of humanity.
Not only is this BAP levels of faggotry, it's also an extremely bizarre ahistorical take for a great number of reasons.
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>>530192701
boo fucking hoo
>>530192516
>feign ignorance then misdirect
this is def a roastoid.
>Solitary men is a consequence of a diseased society,
yeah youre right the disease was letting women assume they are gatekeepers of reproduction. that backfired horribly. hope you all learned something from that
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>>530181936
Simply not designed for it, too autistic.
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>>530186455
I'm with the same woman since I was 23 and she was 16.
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>>530181936
Breeders are disgusting. As if the world needs more annoying brats.
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>>530192860
>boo fucking hoo
You have no stake in society. You've abandoned your duty and live like a craven degenerate in total isolation.

You have no right to complain about anything. Because you are in fact the problem.
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>>530192701
>ended

Someone from 1000s of years ago would literally have millions of ancestors alive today idiot
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>>530192666
Having children young is not moral and virtuous
Having children later in life is not immoral and wrong

Satanic digits are proof of you are doing the devils bidding by trying to instill these ideas in people
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>>530192744
>i need my heckin group to survive
Fag
>>530192765
Cope, women share Chad for sex, monogamy is a relatively recent invention compared to the totality of human history. Now think of the whoredom women perform today, and then imagine it without condoms, that was most of human history. Also, women would find a provider male while secretly getting sperm from a superior male, and plant the bastard child as the son of her husband.
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>>530182086
Are you me?
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>>530192930
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO MAKE MORE SLAVES FOR BILLIONAIRE PSYCHOS AND EPSTEINITES TO USE AS PLAYTHINGS AND FODDER

deranged. nobody deserves to be forced to exist in this multiversal equivalent of a shitty roblox server
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>>530192860
>>feign ignorance then misdirect
I'm not sure you understand what misdirection even is. Or feigning ignorance. The anon I was replying to literally made no argument.
>yeah youre right the disease was letting women assume they are gatekeepers of reproduction.
Brother, this will always be the fucking reality. Women always knows who are their children, they were always and will always be the genetic gatekeepers of society. The problem is everyone having the wrong incentives (yes, particularly women), and one of the symptoms of this is the male loneliness epidemic.
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>>530181936
I'm not 4 year old shota anymore.
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>>530191976
Everyone who says these words "I don't have time" is a liar.
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>>530182075
it's cringe to read what losers write all the time
feels good to be Chad
>t. have 6 kids with 6 different women and 4 kids with my wife
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>>530192930
>you are nothing
>you are also the problem
would you make your goddamned retarded mind up?
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>>530186434
You don't get bonus points in divorce court for being the alpha tough guy
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>>530193191
Based, I have bastards all over Vietnam and Thailand, their mothers are happy to raise such a beautiful superior child alone versus raising an inferior child with a provider
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>>530183200
>>530183382
yeah i see hot tal blondes with fat bald manlets in Greece and Bulgaria all the time
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>>530192987
>Having children young is not moral and virtuous
>Having children later in life is not immoral and wrong
I never said that it was. But it's prideful and wrong to call young parents who are essentially heroes for raising children in the chaos of modernity "broke pieces of trash". And I'm not sure why you or anyone else would defend this kind of behaviour.

Also, digits are not your Ouija board. That is superstitious and in many ways anti-Christian. What you should repudiate or commend is the moral substance of what you read, not tea leaves.
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>>530181936
If the world doesn't owe me anything then I don't owe the world anything.
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>>530182270
Video is AI
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>>530193051
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>>530181936
unchecked hoeflation
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>>530193259
mine are almost all of them in Montenegro and Macedonia i love going there on "business trip" lol
i work from home
my wife is either ignorant or just doesn't care
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>>530193051
Ah yes, the old "medieval peasants were living miserable lives in squalor" jewish meme, that'll show them
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>>530192858
Using big words doesn't make you sound smart when you don't refute anything said. Reddit trash detected
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>>530193205
>abandon society
>refuse to breed when invaders are having 5+ kids each
>allow Jews to seize control from you

You are the last man. The weak coward who trembles despite having nothing to lose.
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>>530193300
obviously he is coping but that doesnt mean you are correct to insult him back

respect the dignity of people, even if they are misguided
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>>530193575
The fuck? What big words? Also, what is even there to refute? The claim was:
>There are twice as many women who have gotten to breed compared to men throughout human history, so we are actually returning to the natural state of humanity.
Firstly, while there are more women who reproduce then men for a number of reasons, it isn't twice the number.
Secondly, there were a variety of social pressures like significantly higher male mortality that doesn't exist today on the same scale.
And finally, the "returning to the natural state of humanity" part is just BAP nihilism. I don't know what else to tell you.
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>>530192930
You cant shame men like us into giving a fuck about your society.

Cope and seethe faggot
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>>530181936
Can't imagine a more awful existence than being married to some skank and having kids, literally a death trap
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>>530181936
That's obviously his aunt.
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I'm 45 and this is the first time hearing having kids was my "duty" so blame my boomer parents that abandoned me to disneyjews I guess.
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>>530193725
Fair enough. I accept your correction. It was wrong of me to succumb to anger, I simply lack communication skills to address people more lovingly because I'm functionally retarded.
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>>530193715
>Your a coward!

Don't care, not going to play a part in more whites being subjected to the coming brown dystopia. Life is a burden, not a gift.
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>>530194130
>>530193715
the demoralized posters are brown shills
don't give them yous
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>>530192858
historically one man bred seven women
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>>530194046
*Ahem*

>as you can see from this chart
>the more degenerate and retarded the white males of a society are --
>the less they lack the wits to know what happens when violent brown invaders outbreed them
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>>530193715
>be the last white male on earth
>an entire planet full of shitskins still cry about me being "too white"
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>>530194282
This isn't true of Christian Europe. And polygamy had disastrous consequences for the Mohammedans, so even if I entertain your argument the fact of the matter is that harems objectively do not produce better societies, it simply promotes a dysgenic system of female capture that alienates men, demolishes productiveness and invention and produces weaker offspring in the long run.
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>>530194340
again, blame the retardation that came before me, I don't know what you expect. You'd have lived the same life if your parents didn't care and you were raised by a screen
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>>530181936
Not all people are.ment to reproduce. It is their destiny not to.
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>>530194524
Christian Europe is barely 1400 years old
I'm talking the last 300.000 years
monogamy is a societal thing, not a natural thing. it's based on religion
it's just dogma.
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>>530191980
You are solitary because poeple around you are garbage. You learn to be alone just like some convicts get used to prison so they purposley want to go back.
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>>530194713
While I would contest this supposed fact that polygamy was ever as widespread as you're proposing, let alone it being "natural", you still have to contend with very known fact that polygamous societies are inherently dysgenic in all sorts of ways, and that widespread monogamy and sexual discipline was an incredible boon for Europe that brought about the greatest nations this world has ever seen.
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>>530181936
>>530181936
>>530181936
Daily reminder that all the "no tail" and furfag posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize degeneracy across the board.
Same trannies who shill for Jewkraine and make the /uhg/ threads btw.
There is no "russian" poster, it's all fake and gay anon.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518123762/#518129824
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518281658/#518287969
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518256371/#518256990
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>>530181936
Im almost 40
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>>530194524
>>530194713
>>530194945
For most of history we didnt have polygamy nor monogamy. We had a tribe and women fucked everyone but the best hunter got more pussy. Thats why ratios are 7/1 because that hunther had slightly more more capable kids over time. Its not like he had 7 kids and others had one.
Monogamy is the most dygenic because for most of history it was practiced like jeets. Arranged marrige to a cousin.
Polygamy was never practiced on mass scale.
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>>530195891
>Monogamy is the most dygenic because for most of history it was practiced like jeets. Arranged marrige to a cousin.
And this is why the Church banned cousin marriages to the fifth degree. The problem was never monogamy. The problem was precisely tribalism and keeping familial blood. Appealing to jeets as examples of monogamy is one of the biggest misdirections imaginable.

Regardless, I do think you make a more or less reasonable take.



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