Can someone explain this picture here? Had the Russians never seen popsicles before?
>>530182646Russians are half-human apes who shit in holes and eat shoe polish. So you're right.
He doesn't understand thermodynamics.
>>530182646it was staged by jews
>>530182646Are the horrors of communism really forgotten?
This was the point where Russians had to admit that the American capitalist system was superior to their German communist system. Russians are politically like women or niggers. They're unable to build their own systems and copy whatever works from others in a really shoddy way.
>>530182646its not the popsicklesits the sight of product shelves being filled with actual productsin soviet russia, you went to the hypermarket for entertainment, not to actually buy produce
>>530182646Russia was a fucking shit hole bro
>>530182865>Was
He was drunk.
Why did they have to collapse the Soviet Union for this, though? Couldn't they have just gone the China route?Instead all we got was aids and sadness.
>>530182646It's not the popsicles. It's the refrigerated cases being filled to the max with food. In late 80s Soviet Russia, even in big cities like Moscow, there was jack shit available and everyone took what they could get(though many balked at the poor choices).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8LtQhIQ2AE
>>530182834This. Also the variety. In Soviet Russia you had one sort of sweets and that was it basically.
>>530182925based and alcohol pilled
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>>530182646You are confused because you never been in empty Soviets stores.Also besides been empty everything in USSR was extremely aesthetically offensive. Everything was gray, dirty, covered in some slimy mud, broken things like floor tiles or stores signboards everywhere not fixed for decades.Fun fact: when import plastic bags with prints started to trickle into late USSR people used them as fashion bags, carrying them for years, washing if they git dirty etc. USSR was THAT gray and devoid of color, so plastic bags seemed as flash of life.See Stalker movie, gulag the country.
>>530182646It was the variety, apparently he and his wife joked with the Soviet interpreter about it who then explained it was a normal grocery selection and not staged.The USSR was pretty fucked at that time and a lot of consumer products had left shelves over 20 years, something Soviets assumed was a global trend.
>>530183273>The USSR was pretty fucked at that time and a lot of consumer products had left shelves over 20 years, No t fully left but unavailability of even products was common thing, such as beef, frozen chicken, sosages.Soviets had specific term "*something* was thrown out in the counter". Meaning one if the mentioned deficit goods like frozen chicken arrived at store and they our them on couters and shelves. Then entire city block rushed to that store your make huge line and within hours it was gone. Walking into store and seen every shelf stuffed with all kind of product was indeed shocking sight for Soviet citizen.
>>530182732>Russians are half-human apes who shit in holes and eat shoe polish. So you're right.Your bitches absolutely adore slavic cock and bear our children.Now mald, takeshi.
>>530183687Putin banned 4chan you shouldn't post here.
>>530183687You insult him, but you didn't say he was wrong. Go back to vk and max or I will report you to the police
>>530182646He finally understood why americans are 40% morbidly obese. When he first heard the stat, he couldnt believe it.
>>530183687what a nice cope, rasjebanny dolbajob, now go sign up for the SMO and die like russian tradition, die like a sick alcoholic aids-infested drunk krysa pidrila in a hole
>>530183985Uzbek ladyboys also enjoy Slavic cock too. Since last couple of years, when our government started to finally crack down on immigration from your post soviet shithole we've seen dozens of qt uzbek transes who were working in the brothels in Moscow.If you didn't hold iron grip on your cute asian muslim hoes they would all left for Russia and got themselves a husband. Instead of being sold to old fart for 50 barans or married off to a cousin.
>>530182646You cant comprehend how bad shit was over there under communists. It was bad in ways that would never occur to you as ever even possibly to be a bad thing in life.
>>530182941China got big because the west especially USA exported modern industry to them and teaching them how to do it.The world doesn't needed another China when we already had China.Soviet garbage was many decades behind the west and while wages were low in the Soviet union it was nowhere near as low as Chinese wages.No one wanted to invest in an evil failing empire of shit.
>>530182972>This. Also the variety. In Soviet Russia you had one sort of sweets and that was it basically.Well now you finally FREE and your women can drink black men's piss on Legalporno YEEEESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAKE THAT RUSSKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>530182646Because communism is inefficient and can barely produce consumer goods.Yeltsin was amazed at the wide variety of consumer goods available in America.
>>530184348>no argument>spews stuff about his fetishesTypical
>>530182646Yes, communism is shit
>>530182646If you try to regulate prices and tell producers how much items should cost with time you receive empty shelvesif you let people make profit you get abundance He is discovering miracles of capitalism, sometimes i think boomers forgot it
>>530182925Most Russians are drunk and for good reason. If you were Russian you would be permanently drunk too.
>>530182646>Has icicle land never seen popsicles?
>>530184881Do you have monthly subscriptions of services?
>>530182941Just stop being fucking lazy.Stop being communist.Marx was an idiot, it doesn't fucking work.Just get a job you can tolerate and put in enough effort to be useful.Thats really all that capitalism expects.
>>530185053Slave mentality. Why won't you adopt Jewish mentality where some other people do the work for you?
>>530185009>communism is the same thing as paying a utility bill.Fuck off comrade, I've read your shitty manifesto.Marx was a spoiled lazy narcissist who only appeals to spoiled lazt narcissists.Fuck him and fuck you.Get a job.
>>530185296Do you have a credit card?Do you have Netflix subscription?Do you have Spotify subscription?Do you pay a monthly fee for your car?I could go on and still you wouldn't realize that your system is basically communism for the consumers(your kind) and capitalism for the people who lease products and services to you that they own.
>>530182646Heard a story from a Turk once in the late 70 hes father was a literal cheese merchant.He would drive a truck to the border to USSR to sell it, once crossed.The commie villagers would literally run and blockade it to try and force him to sell the cheese wheels at a premium even the cops and soldiers where on it.Cause that was more reliable way for them to get to cheese it was that bad.I knew Belgium soldiers also smuggle calculators and chocolate in particular that you could sell for 8x the price in Poland if they went on vacation and hid in their car doors.
>>530185578Are you saying I get the means of production for the low cost of 15.99 a month? What a fucking moron you are, holy shit.
>>530182819>German communist system.*Jewish
>>530185788No, and you're the moron here. Means of production don't go to people in commumisn, means of production go to the ruling communist elite and their workers(bureaucrats) to handle.Communism and capitalism is the same coin with two sides.
Probably hallucinations. He was delirious from not drinking for 3 hours.
>>530182646Not in more than three colours, no.
>>530185879>Means of production don't go to people in commumisnYeah, they go in a fucking factory where they always were.>Now they aren't even differentSo you just come here and spout whatever because they don't even pay you anymore?>means of production go to the ruling communist elite and their workers(bureaucrats) to handle.No no that's >realcommunismhasneverbeentriedcommunism™If only real capitalism were tried.
>>530185107getting a job isn't jewishletting the federal reserve devalue the purchasing power of your wages every single year forever, while also letting congress tax your wages every year, is jewish
Yeltsin had been out of Russia into the West multiple times by that point, he was doing a photo-op intentionally to dunk on the communist apparatchiks who were still in hardline denial that communism could be pushed forward.
>>530184198Not a fan of ziggers but this meme is so incredibly dumb, you couldnt get plumbing into the ground in sibiria if you wanted to, theres surely a mil of americans shitting in the open somewhere in the appalachians or the western arid parts
>>530182819>American capitalist system >German communist systemBoth capitalism and communism are jewish innovations and are against the teachings of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.Capitalism gives rich Jews money they didn't earn (interest).Communism gives poor Jews money they didn't earn (welfare).
>>530182646Fun fact, I used to live near the Randals where this picture was taken. Gorbachev was not shocked at the grocery store itself, but the fact that an American medicore borderline ghetto grocery store targeted for lower income people had the same if not more variety than a high end grocery store in Moscow
>>530182646This picture and the narrative around it always stunk to me.Surely some part of his entourage realized taking him to a grocery store was meant to be a humiliation?
>>530185053>Thats really all that capitalism expects.Both capitalism and communism are jewish innovations and are against the teachings of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.Capitalism gives rich Jews money they didn't earn (interest).Communism gives poor Jews money they didn't earn (welfare).
>>530186999True capitalism equates labor to a commodity and most "capitalists" won't admit it because they're actually crony capitalists who aren't worth a lickshit.Really, "economics" in general is not an exact science and can't be pinned down to two dualism western existential political "philosophies". Both however center around the central idea that labor as a commodity is exploitation. Only one is retarded enough to treat that as a bad thing because it implies you actually have to be worth a bucket of piss as a human being wanting to attend this "society" they themselves exploit.
>>530184767didnt the bolsheviks redistribute your womens vaginas as public property
>>530185053nothing you said has anything to do with capitalism
>>530187154But that's not gorbi you stupid mexcrement
>>530185005hahaha
>>530182646>6 years later this man would be found on the streets of washington wearing only his underwear, blackout drunk in search of pizza
>>530182941the amerigolems hate nations that are independent, and the soviet union was a massive region of resource rich nations that joined forces to ensure the kikes and amerigolems couldn't spread their globalist agenda
In this country grocery stores are like cathedrals
>>530182732based, the zigger (shitskin) fears the samurai
>>530184767Oh, so it's a dichotomy - either your economic incompetence or western degeneracy, good to know, thanks for the information, dumb shill ...
>>530187271It's a big narrative in the US but it's basically unknown in Russia. You have to be retarded or American to think a high level Russian politician was impressed by shelves of consumer goods. If he was a random boomer sure, but Yeltsin was decades in politics by then.
>>530182913He ain't wrong, he probably owns that place, which is more than most westerners.
>>530182732>and eat shoe polishNo I eat polish babies.
That was actually an historic moment in time. Yeltsin was Minister of Agriculture at the time. He was told American grocery stores were empty, just like they were in Russia. The Yank minders from the US State Dept. took him to that store, and Yeltsin believed it was bullshit. It was a put on. That's why he was laughing at the time. Russian staged full grocery stores for American visitors. Before he left the US, Yeltsin made an unscheduled visit to a random Piggly Wiggly he just happened to be driving by on the way to the airport. He barged, told all the State Department guys to get the fuck out of his way, he was going in no matter what. Yeltsin was figuring he would find it empty, but it was just like the one they showed him, fully stocked. He felt betrayed by his own people. They lied to him when they told him the US had no food either. He became a disillusioned communist and the rest is history.
>>530182646Someone post that comparison pic of Tucker going to a store in Russia and being amazed by the low prices.
>>530183273I'm pretty sure that he had gone to another and only then believed that it wasn't staged. That man is a traitor.
>>530189038How brave if you to reply
>>530182646>Woah! Goyslop! I must dismantle communism and hand over all of Russia's wealth to rich oligarchs immediately!
>>530182834that was the capitalist russia tho
>>530182646In communism there were no product variations and everything was always short and missing. To get stuff you usually had to bribe or spend your whole day hunting with special "vouchers". There is a board game in Poland called Kolejka, or "queue", where the objective is to complete your daily shopping. But its not so simple.Communism is simply ideology for losers
>>530189677Swallowing cum doesn't count as eating babies you squinty eyed mongoloid.
>>530190299Communism is oligarchy. The only way to get power is to sell your ass to ideological clique who control all society as everything is owned by party. Yeltsin was a communist party politician and active member. Communism never really ended in russia and those criminals just rebranded and centralised power in 90s after looting country
>>530190492Why sweds are so mad? Is it because they're worse than finnish and feel pressure because of it?
>>530191166That I think you're a squinty eyed mongoloid does not mean I am angry. It just means you're a squinty eyed mongoloid. Nothing else. Pinky promise.
>>530190300>that was the capitalist russia tho>1984
>>530182646I want to go back brosYou can see the quality of products from this pic alone
The Russian economy, especially agriculture was still hopelessly backward and inefficient even in the 80s and 90s so yes it was shocking to see a store fully stocked with every type of food you could imagine while in the average store in the USSR the shelves were always bare by the late 80s onward. Communism simply never figured out the whole "food" thing. What's really crazy is that it was US industrialists and agriculturalists who built their economy in the 1920s and then the 1960s, but the Soviets always then let the system rot and stagnate, and in the 80s they didn't invite the Americans back in to fix everything for them.
>>530191612samewhole shopping cart full was like 40 dollarsand the people were friendly
>>530182646the broad variety was the big thing, in former ussr you would go to grocery store and there would be two popsicles to choose from, one named kometa the other polarka or some shit like that, both absolutely grim looking
>>530183687lmao gobnik delusions
>>530182646During the soviet era the economy was controlled by the state. Let's say a farmer produced 400 tons of wheat, it was then reported that he produced 500 tons, because it looked better.Then the 400 tons of wheat, that was supposed to be 500 tons was milled to flour, it became 300 tons of flour but it was reported as 600 tons because it looked better.Then it was calculated in an optimistic manner that from 600 tons of flour 1 200 000 bread loaves could be made and people received allowances for bread based on this number. In reality it was only enough for 400 000 bread loaves so most people didn't receive any bread even though they had a paper stating they they should receive a loaf of bread.Further next year the farms weren't expanded because according to the numbers the production was sufficient, but in reality it needed to expand a lot.Then when the soviets collapsed all of these problems remained but Jewish oligarchs purchased all land and equipment for pennies on the dollar and suddenly there was even less bread and absolutely nothing remotely exotic in the stores, people bought what little produce there was before the store employees could even restock the shelves. That's why Yeltsin was awed by American supermarkets.
All of this is a computer science problem
>>530183687Slavic special.ed, say Hi to your mother for me, and tell her Daddy will come by to.improvemyour family tree with actual human DNA
>>530185005
>>530186403this
>>530182646he fell for the 50 flavors of same thing psyop
>>530197442Let me guess, you need more?
>>530183985Wait what!? Even Uzbekistan is dissing on the Russians now.
>>530182646He explained how big the dildo was but suddenly got distraced by icecream
>>530183137it was fashionable maybe cos it was foreign hence exotic. to imply ussr didnt have dyed shopping bags is laughable. it wasnt a consumerist kike culture, it was pragmatic and utilitarian. those bags are ads, you become a walking ad. this is your brain on wikipedia nonsense written by seethoids and lying migger kikes.
>>530197487do you know why there were bread lines? i know this cos ive been to the ussr. getting white bread was difficult
>>530197696found the revisionist
>>530191553>1984so sayeth plebbit lmao fucking retards, oh look its a seething baltoid, like clockwork.
>>530196649Exactly this. Without constant feedback of a free market dynamics and unrestricted pricing, you cannot efficiently allocate resources or manage production capacity. Efficiency is a natural byproduct of free a market, it just happens, for free. When humans think experts, beaurocrats and commitees can improve this dynamic by planning it always becomes less efficient and eventually fails because Human factors distort the self-correcting market forces. Humans have emotions, lie, take bribes, don’t have all the data, wrong data, impose their arrogant ape-intellect onto nature, fall for groupthink etc. Expert panels always produce the worst decisions, thats also a law of nature, Never give them too much control over the economy. Any human should only control their own labour and production capcites where they have a personal stake thusly direkt responsibility over. Look up the economic calculation problem. The next arrogant human folly will probably be assuming AI can create a better economy than the free market. Spoiler: it can’t and wont.
>>530182646It was propagandaYeltsin was an American puppet and everything had been arranged long before hand.The plan was always to loot the USSR and destroy it’s people, reducing them to functional slavery
It was a psyop for retards like this >>530182819You think Yeltsin and top communist party members didn't know what Western grocery stores looked like? That they hadn't travelled to Europe before and seen all the food there? Nobody in Russia believes this narrative because they know it's obvious nonsense.
>>530196886Look at this retard. Thinking his meat brain can remotely grasp what actually happens.
>>530198466>free market dynamics and unrestricted pricing, you cannot efficiently allocate resources or manage production capacityYou obviously can but it's extremely difficult and prone to manipulation at every step. I mean it is possible in theory but it'll never be a good way to run society because even if you somehow make it work it'll be extremely fragile.
>>530198436KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>530198235im just not a retard reading everything from wikipedia and taking it as gospel. ive been to the ussr in the 80s. i know exactly what was and wasnt and how it was. aint no fuckin zoomerhistorian gonna teach me fuckin history that i lived. get fucked kikeshit. btw, youre ruining america make no mistake about it. this country was sweet and now its so fuckin jewy that its beyond over.
>>530182941>welol vpn faggot detected
>>530198628Maybe. But given all you said, considering the alternative is to just let it happen on it‘s own, its retarded to even attempt it. Almost impossible to get it right and if you don’t, people suffer and die. It‘s a stupid experiment.
>>530191412Cope and seethe more Swede is more mongoloid than Russia or it was before muslimisation
>>530193738>It looks real in my deformed fingolic head
>>530182646>american products>drunky rooskychaeks out
>>530182972There was also one icecream. That vanilla block. It is better than most of the weird tasting US stuff though.
>>530182646>Had the Russians never seen popsicles before?Yes. Despite living in one of the coldest countries in the world, Russia can't into ice cream.
>>530182646russia is basically the africa of europe, and russians are basically euroniggers
>>530204426But Russian went into Fucking space! They were beating even the U.S. at one point!
>>530204498they spent all the money on going to space while their own population was starving and had to stand in bread lines, just like niggers spend all their money on expensive cars, jewelry and and sports shoes and then have nothing left to buy food, both are bad at prioritising and have no foresight
>>530203326You mean this?
>>530196009This looks straight out of Fallout 3.
>>530204823That actually looks pretty good. Is that like ice cream in a waffle?
>>530204813Stop coping your subhuman population already became real niggers and you can do nothing about it
>>530204813Seems like that but not really.Key takeawayBoth superpowers spent around ~1% of their economies on space at the height of the Space Race.The US spent more publicly on prestige missions like the Moon landing.The USSR spent a slightly larger share overall, but much of it went into military space infrastructure rather than headline missions.
>>530205076Yes it's called russian ice cream but they renamed it to Ukrainian ice cream here lol
>>530198525No im serious they coukdnt coordinate the supply with the demand bevause of a lack if computers. Computer science problem.
>>530182646>Alcoholic>"Come, let us show you what's in our supermarkets">Show abundance>"Ohhh look at that lol">*Kike snaps picture and creates a narrative*These niggas had been to space, you really think Unilever's icecreams impressed them?
>>530205156yeah because surely I was a 100% serious, but anyway im right in that they did spend most of their resources on industry and defense rather than consumer goods like food and consumer technology and other stuff, but thanks for the unnecessary information mr.reddit i guess
>>530183687Why are slavs so beautiful and basically in a league of their own compared to other euros?
>>530182972Which is weird, because I lived through communism in Hungary and it was pretty good. We couldn't leave, but compared to now, that was a small price to pay.
Jello pudding pops were mankind’s greatest invention and it was the start of our downfall when they were discontinued, the world has gone to shit ever since jello pudding pops disappeared from freezers and you can’t tell me otherwise
>>530204823>>530205076Exactly, those are very good.
Russians have a slave mentality, know this and all questions about their history and actions are answered. If you're confused about what a Russian will do in the future just ask yourself "what would I do if I were a slave?" and you have your answer.
>>530189270fr, not to mention what's underneath the ground, kikes stay seethingthose who bless israel will be cursedthose who curse israel will be blessed
>>530204921we have to go back
>>530184767in soviet rasha, you can buy bread
In russia u r shocked by prices
>>530182646Drunk man is saying >"What is this shit? Wheres the fucking alchol? I was promised alcohol."
Yeltsin, and most soviet people knew how the outside world worked and the availability of food and other goods, this was mostly a photo op to make the soviet collapse more politically attractive. Yelstin became president after the USSR collapsed.That photo was taken on september 1989, while the soviet union began its formal collapse in october of that year dissolving in 1991. Soviet people were well aware of how the west operated, by 1989 the soviet economy had a huge black market of all sorts of goods from all over the world and private profit was allowed for a while by then
>>530189270Yeah no shit. :/
>>530182646He was surprised not because it existed, but because it wasn't a planned propaganda stunt. Washington didn't put that small Texan grocery store there to fill it full of products. The grocery store was a genuine reflection of the success of the American capitalist system in providing for the every day man when compared to the Russian system. Yeltsin got reports and numbers, but Yeltsin was smarter than to take those at face value.>>530198489>nobody in Russia>Canadian flagHow do you know?
>>530205627The real truth is that after we killed 8 million Russians in WWI and 7 million pidors died in their civil war and 27 million killed by Germans in WWII they had no one left who could sustain a socialist state.They could never fill that hole together with 200 millions n abortions in the entire Soviet timeline.They tried to compete militarily with the west on top of that and then the entire shit hole fell apart.
>>530182646I know this is a shit on russia thread butthey did and do have great mindsit's just the other people that aren't useful to the country that suffer
>>530183687no group of women chases after slav cock. especially russian cock. it's why you filthy beasts have to rape constantly and why your men in the army constantly rape each other. if they had drones with video in WW2. you would probably gather around the christmas table every year to watch footage of your grandfather getting fucked in the ass by a fellow private before getting rekt by a nazi drone.
>>530195961i like the tile design. soviet russia sure had sovl
>>530211544>soviet russia sure had sovlwell there isn't anything in that photo.
>>530197696>to imply ussr didnt have dyed shopping bags is laughable.Soviets had shopping bags, pragmatic and utilitarian. Like i said gray and gloomy, soviets starved for any color jumped on western plastic bags like africans jumped on glass beads during colonial trade. Of course for capitalist pig like you spoiled by capitalist abundance it looks completely alien and mind blowing. But such was life in the USSR.
>>530182646>Can someone explain this picture here?the soviet system was one big economic crisis
>>530198628>it is possible in theoryNo, it is not. Without monetary cost accounting, which socialism by definition abolishes, you cannot economize.
>>530182646in soviet places only thing plentiful were the lines where you queued up to see if there is anything left to buy when you reached the end of it. You basically had to stand in line to even get even the most basic things and then trade them for other things you needed that ppl were lucky enough to have acquired elsewhere.
>>530205520> you really think Unilever's icecreams impressed them?As high member of Soviet party he had access to "cпeцpacпpeдeлитeли" so no goods themselves didn't impressed him. What impressed him (and he wrote this memoirs) is abundance of goods in public access store for common people. Not in cпeцpacпpeдeлитeли store where only high party members could enterBTW here catalog of such closed access soviet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryozka_(Russian_retail_store)https://dzen.ru/a/YHaPCoPHWwa57GObThis was considered luxury life in USSR only Gods Chosen people could enter these stores, common soviet people would be literally kicked out by guards if they tried to enter. Today you can buy all of that in any Russian supermarket... Just let this sink in for while....
