Yesterday, the IRGC Aerospace Force was observed launching missiles from the Esfahan Missile Base. The above ground structures of the base were bombed three times during the 12-Day War, and the underground tunnels and tunnel entrances were bombed once by F-35s and two seperate times by B-2 bombers with bunker busters in the past week alone. Yet somehow, the base is still fully operational, and continuing to launch missiles just two days after it was last attacked. These bases or missile cities are located 100 meters below the rugged mountains and reinforced concretes. There is no bunker buster munition that can penetrate that deep to dismantle the bases. Thats why USA/Israel decided to perform desperate attacks on oil and water infrastructure lately.In retaliation, Iran just began to attacks on oil and water infrastructure in the region. Haifa oil refinery and Bahrain water desalination plant were just hit and similar attacks across the region would increase chaos and global energy crisis.In the 8th day of US-Israels war on Iran, despite 4,500 strikes destroying Iranian military assets (vs 3,500 precise strokes of Iran), Western forces face desperation: munitions shortages, damaged bases, economic chaos from Hormuz closure, need to accumulate carriers in the region, and reliance on hoped-for regime collapse amid resilient Iranian retaliation targeting Gulf infrastructure.
Was there ever any good estimate of how many missile cities really exist?
>>530184527God bless Iran. The honey badger that will fuck USA and Israel. USA out of the middle east by the end of this
>>530184633Recent reports suggest that "dozens" such sites were targeted by USAF.
Those that bless Iran will be blessed in turn
>>530184821There are probably a lot more hidden away than that
>>530184527The same happened in Yugoslavia in 1999. When Milosevich foolishly accepted a deal with ZOG, enormous quantities of troops and armour get out from the bunkers under the mountains in Serbia. The serbian army was 100% intact after 70+ days of NATO bombings.
Thank you based polack
>>530184988Oy vey!
>>530184527Fucking kek. Absolute burger golem demolition
Oy GEVALT!
>>530184527What about the exponential decrease of missiles?
>>530184527Its insane they thought they could literally move mountainsNot even a groundburst nuke could create a crater 100m deep unless it was some insane yield
>>530185218I hazard it was negative missiles yesterday
>>530185218This propaganda about "geometric reduction of Iranian strikes" is ridiculous imo. Iran needed to use a lot of missiles/drones at the beginning to deplete AD interceptors. Now, when interceptors around Gulf and also in Israel were significantly depleted, Iran can use much less drones/missiles for its precise strikes as well. Logical.
>>530185218They have destroyed most of the TELs, which means the missile launch capabilities are degraded. But it doesnt mean the missiles themselves are goneBasically, if the US and israel went home right now, a few converted toyotas later and iran would be able to terrorize whoever the wanted This is why ground invasion is inevitable
>>530185218>it has been established at this point that the missiles used are basically just bait so drones can strike radars and anti missile systems. The real Iranian attack has not started. Proof? IDF Sais today "It Can't Guarantee It Will Send Alert for Missile Before Sirens Sound" since Iran has blinded America. https://archive.is/YqCIU#selection-613.0-617.277Also, american bombing has caused negligible damage on the missile cities. Proof? see pic. related. And the eastern missile cities, the ones that are not used to attack Israel, are intact, and they can be used to launch long range missiles into Israel or short range missiles into the gulf sates or the Caucasus
>>530184718A goy can dream.
>>530185600a kike can seethe
>>530185454>Ground invasion What do you think that will look like?
>>530185712It will be a massacre of the US Army imo
>>530185414>This propaganda about "geometric reduction of Iranian strikes" is ridiculous imo. Iran needed to use a lot of missiles/drones at the beginning to deplete AD interceptors. Now, when interceptors around Gulf and also in Israel were significantly depleted, Iran can use much less drones/missiles for its precise strikes as well. LogicalIt is also worth noticing that reaction time was reduced from 30 minutes to like 1 minute now because Iran managed to damage strategic AD assets of the US in the region.
>>530184988>>530185312Most people don't realize how protective dirt and earth is. There's a reason armies have used sandbags to stop bullets and blasts forever.Those GBU-57s that were meant to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities only penetrate 80m of dirt. Dirt is the easiest material. Against any decent reinforced concrete you're looking at several meters at most. Sending several onto one spot isn't a great strategy either the dirt and shit just falls back into the hole. it was always a lie that they got those nuke facilities which from memory were under many tens of meters of rock and then several meters of extremely high quality concrete. they didn't get close.>>530185218i'd believe this but that's what they said last time about how all the launchers are destroyed. iran just wound down the number of missiles they fired and were getting much better yields per missile. stopped doing them at night and israel had basically censored all the kino. then finally the israelis were the ones that asked for a ceasefire.can't say for sure this time but i wouldnt take them on their word they're liars.
>>530185741Theoretically what's stopping them from doing special forces raids on missile sites? It would probably be possible for some at least
>>530185712A disaster without air superiority.
>>530184527finally a thread thats not done by a paid shill. there is so much propaganda pretending the US is coming out ahead in this lmao
>>530185979smart move. all of a sudden it makes sense why their military doctrine since the last conflict has been to bomb all the neighbouring countries with us assets. people thought it was for deterrence but it was to hit all those radars. now that they got the radars they wanted they say theyre ready to not attack any neighbours.i still think they lose because how do you win against a superpower but theyre doing much better than anyone would expect
>>530186089Going underground means no air support, the biggest advantage western military has over Iran. No real time intel, unfamiliar terrain, and god knows how much Iranians bunked in there. Its a suicide mission. You need battalions of troops to systematically clear them out, one cave network at a time. Aka shit ton of troops on the ground. We're seeing the limit of air power.
>>530185218Iran is likely keeping most of their missles in reserve for the purpose of keeping the straight closed long term instead of using them to attack foreign nations.
>>530186089Probably the fact that if there are troops in the missile bases it will be guaranteed deathAnd that even inserting you are prone to choppers being shot down, shasneed attacks ect
Sounds like the orange retard bit off more than he can chew
>>530185741You realize that's a very fake map right? Not only has all the terrain outside of Iran been flattened, but the topography inside Iran has been greatly exaggerated. Earth's biggest mountains don't go nearly that high, let alone the average mountain in Iran. You'd have to be retarded to post this picture as any kind of argument.
>>530186297I don't want to believe that tectonic plate bumps are going to pwn the US
USA and Israel effectively destroyed much of Irans above ground military infrastructure and killed the most important figures in the revolution guard and politics... and now lots of underground stuff still exists. And lots of military middle tier officers still are there, the ones not constantly tracked and spied on. And sure, many launchers are destroyed but they will not be able to just stop this from the air without government collapse. And its costly too.I think the US miscalculated this shit. They, like Russia, wanted this to be over fast but without ground invasion or sudden government collapse (which doesnt seem to happen) it wont be over anytime soon. Ukraines economy is also broken but they are kept afloat bx western money. The same thing can happen in Iran with Chink money (on the other hand they dont have interest in the strait being closed).So how this will play out will ultimately boil down to how Irans economy will be kept afloat and if there will be new protests due to that and also if there will be a ground invasion
>>530186506Not pwn, just making it prohibitively costly to conduct war beyond air campaigns.
>>530185712>What do you think that will look like?
>>530186466Irans average elevation exceeds 1,200 meter with over 50% of its land above 1,000 meter. The Central Iranian Plateau flanked by Alborz and Zagros ranges, ensures continuous highland. Evdn Afghanistan, famous of being rugged, contains large lowland basins in the southwest which makes its overall terrain less consistently mountainous.
>>530184988Not 100% intact but they destroyed like two dozen vehicles. We managed to transfer an entire armored brigade during the bombing.Air campaigns don’t work on their own.
Keep in mind Yugoslavia was a far smaller country and far less prepared.Iranians had decades to prepare, and resources to do it.This is the Suez moment of Amerizog empire.
>>530186466>let alone the average mountain in Iran. you're saying that like iran has relatively low peaks. irans highest peak is 5600m, the highest peak in europe is 800m lower than that. yeah that map is a bit silly in that it isn't a scale recreation of the terrain but if you thought it was meant to be your kinda retarded.
>>530186466>You realize that's a very fake map rightdo you see yemen on your map?okay, we couldn't do that from the air, we definitely cannot do iran from the air.
>>530186245The one advantage they have over the superpower is that they are willing to endure a lot more pain than they areIf this goes on for too long trump will be utterly shitting himself over the oil apocalypse and his own poll numbers. Thats how iran “wins”
>>530184527Yes anon, Trump will announce his unconditional surrender tomorrow because it knows that it cannot stand against Iran's 11 million missiles cities. The US will be renamed to The United States of Ali Khamenei. Israel has been completely destroyed by Iran's 12 million missiles cities. The land now belongs to the Palestinians and it will be renamed to Qasem Soleimani's Palestina.The Arabs are all begging for forgiveness. They acknowledge the absolute might of the Iranians and their all powerful, infinite and unstopable 13 million missiles cities and offer to convert to Shia Islam.Europe is in total awe of these developments and it's offering to surrender as well, even when they were never part of the war, because they are afraid of Iran's 14 million missiles cities.
>>530185712That Pink Floyd videoclip with the meatgrinder
>>530186589comparing this to ukraine isn't the same. russia has a much easier task invading a plane vs the us invading mountains (also iran is twice as big)this is a nonstarter, not to mention very unpopular.I mean just compare trump to putin. its not even close to favorability .
>>530187412I compared it to ukraine in the sense that the initial goal was not achieved and that their economy can be propped up from outside
>>530187199To negotiate strongly with Xi in Beijing on March 31, Trump must deploy large ground forces to Iran next week and secure victory within two weeks or delay the visit and concede defeat. It will be hard to negotiate anything with China with the unsolved clusterfuck in ME and NATO economies getting increasingly hurt due to high energy prices.
>>530187540ah, sure.I don't really think this will be a thing with china and russia doing a proxy though desu. I think its just a distraction for israel to annex more of lebanon (that was the plan at least) and now Iran isn't letting the US do the hit and run and we have to commit.but what do i know
>>530187662>secure victory within two weekswhat does that look like though? capturing some towns that are <10k population?
>>530187662In the short term it will hurt China too, but they do have a fuckhueg reserve from buying cheap Russian oil. In the long term, this will significantly accelerate electrification across the world, which China is the leader in. Look at Cuba, due to their oil shortage because of US pressure, their importing a fuckton of solar panels from China. This will happen on a global scale if the oil crisis is prolonged.I'm still fucking baffled. The only party that benefited from this war is Israel.
>>530184527source: my assAnother polish jeet thread
>>530187861>The only party that benefited from this war is Israeldejavu? every war in the ME is at the determent of USA and benefit of israel
>>530187861> The only party that benefited from this war is Israelwho knew
>>530184922is it possible to hide such bases in age of sattelite surveillance
>>530185979Agreed, the reaction time thing is imho even a bigger deal than the interceptors running low. For the Israelis it means the time from sirens to explosions is very short, keeping them in a constant state of anxiety, much as they have been doing to Gaza. I'm a little shocked by the scale and effectiveness of the media blackout, which makes me think shit must be really bad.I wonder though why we are not seeing comparisons using Chinese satellite photos or so to gauge the degree of damage in Israel.
>>530184527I'm not shedding any tears for the Orange Pedo King and Bibi.
>>530184841>that post>this imageIt really do be like that.
>>530187861>I'm still fucking baffled. The only party that benefited from this war is Israel.yeah well, as far as i can tell the main reason why the US is even in this war is either because israel has videos of trump molesting children or because the mariam adelson gave him moneyits definitely not in the USs favor, their weapons systems are looking like shit, their gulf allies are realizing theyre protection means nothing to the US, its accelerating everyones move to realign with china, its costing the US a huge amount, its destroyed US diplomatic credibility even further.trumps selling out the US to israel and either pocketing huge sums of money from it or being blackmailed.
>>530186089well you have to get the special forces out after you drop them in; the Iranians are not idiots and surely have defenders for the missile sites; they probably have enough smarts to make Americans pick particular targets by making them look under-defended. We are talking about the country that invented chess, after all. Also, look at the size of the place. You can't win a war with only special forces outside of the movies. Elite troops are always supplementary to regular forces.
BTW, i think that this recent terrorist tactic to hit water infrastructure in Iran might horribly backfire. Desalination plants around the region are completely unprotected. Destruction of just 1 major desalination plant by a single drone would leave millions of people without potable water within 24 hours, making urban centres uninhabitable
>>530185712How would an army even land in Iran? Anything carrying troops will just be droned. I don't see how they could step foot into Iran besides paratroopers, and that's hardly an invasion force.
>>530188349>their gulf allies are realizing theyre protection means nothing to the USThat chinese professor made a good point about this: those bases were put there to help those monarchies in the case of a popular uprising in their country during the Cold War, not to defend them against missiles from abroad.The arab regimes, be it nasserist Egypt, baathist Syria and Iraq, or absolute monarchs, have all proven again and again to be incompetent and craven, just hoping they can make it another decade. They are all on borrowed time.
>>530188533Massive amount of helicopters at the nearby military bases... oh wait.
>>530184841based
>>530186245>how do you win against a superpowerAmerica can't get boots on the ground if they wanted. The best option would be a naval assault to form a beach head. Which maybe would work, but the lives cost would be astronomical. Americans don't have the stomach for such a sacrifice just for some fucking kikes.
>>530188517I don't think the iranians have it in them to cause that much suffering, just like hitler let 400k british flee at Dunkirk.it sucks because they could end this war fast and save more lives doing so
>>530188810Irans Qeshm plant was hit by the US today, and literally right afterwards Iran retaliated by hitting exactly the same plant in Bahrainhttps://apnews.com/article/iran-israel-us-march-8-2026-f0b20dbffaea9351ae1e54183ffe53ffIf the US/Israel continue to attack water infrastructure, Iran will be forced to do the same
>>530186089>what's stopping them from doing special forces raids on missile sites?Iranian AD. You'd have to airdrop them in, and so far, the US doesn't dare enter Iran's airspace with anything but drones.
>Western forcesIt's only israel and trumpland.
BTW for anons who like reading (which seems like a few in this bread) I recommend 2 booksOn War by John Keegan for general military anthropology and fundamentals of strategySeven Pillars of Wisdom by TE Lawrence, as in Lawrence of Arabia. He was operating in Saudi Arabia mostly, but often in mountainous territory. Absolutely great breakdown of the headaches facing an invasion/occupation force (of Turks, who had significant technical and logistic superiority) in a hostile environment (both terrain and people). The guide to the fundamentals of guerrilla warfare.
>>530184527>In the 8th day of US-Israels war on Iran, despite 4,500 strikes destroying Iranian military assets (vs 3,500 precise strokes of Iran), Western forces face desperation: munitions shortages, damaged bases, economic chaos from Hormuz closure, need to accumulate carriers in the region, and reliance on hoped-for regime collapse amid resilient Iranian retaliation targeting Gulf infrastructure.HAHAHAHA! SO MUCH FUCKING COOOOOOOOPE!
>>530189037>Irans Qeshm plant was hit by the US today, and literally right afterwards Iran retaliated by hitting exactly the same plant in Bahraintrue, they have 4 other desalination plants though. my point is this war could end if they just hit all of them ...causing refugee crisis... but that's not happening
>>530189092France was forced to redeploy Charles de Gaulle from Baltic NATO duties to the eastern Mediterranean lately. It eases the burden on overstretched US carriers but leaves "eastern NATO flank" more vulnerable now xD
Less that 1% of USA military is combat ready combat MOS. Even if they took the top 1% of all of its potential today to begin training for six months for a combat operation it would amount to a few thousand soldiers. 1/2 the generals are Jewish and would do everything in their power to make sure they all died immediately to convince blorph that it's only hope is to dump trillions more into MIC that never developed a useful war fighting technology. The mind is the weapon everything else is a tool. You need soldiers to win wars and we have nothing but Jews and debt.
>>530184527iran is like hamas. They've spent a lot of money on subterranian bases.It won't save them, however. We know how this ends.
>>530189047Get off the drugs Ahmed
>>530189284it ends with US and jizzrael losing, retard
>>530189178We're hardly a week into the war and vital civilian infrastructure is being bombed. It seems likely for that to continue, especially with the US attitude towards this conflict.I'm mean the Trump administration is behaving as though Iranians were the ones in the Epstine files and we're justifiable murdering pedophiles.
>>530189227>1/2 the generals are JewishI hate this gay earth.
>>530189349This operation truly deserves the Epstein Fury codename, especially in light of recent desperate attacks vs civilian targets xD
>>530189349>I'm mean the Trump administration is behaving as though Iranians were the ones in the Epstine files and we're justifiable murdering pedophiles.lmao, now that you say it...this has to be some intentional misdirected anger for MAGAtards
>>530189284>Iran is like Hamas>This artillery shell is like a firecracker I guess you are right in a sense, retarded muttbro
>>530189403Yes in the military that is .000000000000002% Jewish 50% of the ~1000 generals are all Jewish
>>530189349>With the permission of a court, girls may marry at a younger age. In 2010, as many as 42,000 children aged between 10 and 14 were married and 716 girls younger than 10 had wed.>Under the Civil Code 2007, marriage “before the age of majority” is prohibited. However the age of majority is 9 lunar years (8 years and 9 months) for girls. nu/pol/ is hilarious with the things they say
>>530184527I can't believe the military actually gave Trump any feasible plans. They had to have known. They could have just said "sorry, Mr. President, we won't win without nukes" and that'd have been the end of it.
>>530189499hey, still not as many as the USSR. they were 80%, right?
>>530189568That's a fair point, anon.
>>530189593plenty of advisors told him this was retarded no doubt. but (((certain people))) overruled them
>>530189593>winthis isn't about winning...its just a distraction for israel to annex more of lebanon
>>530189593A lot of those retards in the army are counting on a comfy job as "consultant" for weapons manufacturers that pay 1mil+/year once they retire, and creating demand for new/more product is how they apply for those jobs.
>>530186757so why we surrendered to air force???????
>>530189593The fact remains they are all Jews. There are no soldiers steering the ship there has only ever been one enlisted man to make general I believe it was chesty puller and a few other but typically no one goes from enlisted to officer gets very far
>>530185712>>530185454if they were really gonna try a ground invasion, it should have happened day 1 like in Iraq. At this point, US has not only lost significant portions of its bases, it has also already transferred lots of troops OUT of the region.
>>530189769Accurate Israel seems to be the big winner here so far. They don't even care about dead Jews they treat their own worse than the goyim do. And that just makes them hate themselves even more.
>>530186206Agreed I’m shocked by the relative common sense in this thread
To advance beyond your supply line is suicide and we have no supply line into IRAN the mother fuckin pool is closed. Ain't nobody suppliing shiiiiiit.
>>530186466Shut up you stupid fucking Canuck. The point remains true even if the map wasn’t accurate you fuckhead.
>>530185414You keep saying that and I keep waiting for kikes to explode. AI is pretty but boring.
>>530188033Satellite tech is not some magic crystal ball which reveals all. Think how many cave systems are still being discovered yearly.How many do you think they found the past 40 years while prospecting for underground water sources, minerals and secret storage space?
>>530184988>The serbian army was 100% intact after 70+ days of NATO bombings.Yeah no shit, not like they target anything but civilians anyway.
>>530187381You’re a retard. Iran cannot lose. They’ll always have missiles and nuclear knowledge that cannot be bombed out of existence.
>>530185218Missiles haven't decreased you retardYour radars that can track them are gone
>>530190384israel banned any filming or releasing. they do a pretty good job of it. i could tolerate their bloodthirsty genocide but their suppression of potential kino is unacceptable.
>>530184527Here are my prediction to what will be the result of this conflict:>US pulls out saying they neutralized Iran as a threat and won>none of the bases will be rebuilt>USA will not longer operate by itself in thrtr, all of it's Middle East outeach will be done through Israel>More and more money and weapons are sent to Israel so they can "carry out America's biding">Essentially the entire thing is a plot to weaken Iran and transfer US's military capabilities directly to Israel, since they know any pro-Israel politician will ever be eletected in the US once the boomers are gone>It will all start when they say "we don't have a base in there anymore, so it's easier to ask Israel to do X"
>>530187381Youre purposely misrepresenting the win conditions for either side of this conflict. Fuck off there are lots of shill threads to shit up
>>530185218>first day all Radars are intact a lot of launches detected>a week later most radars got btfo>"sharp decrease in launches"Its survivors bias
>>530188135This is a good point — why haven’t we at minimum seen satellite images from China that can help us figure out what Tel Aviv looks like?
>>530190769You left a lot out in your prediction..... If the U S pulls out, that leaves israel fighting Iran by itself. Iran will be able to get all of its terms met for a ceasefire, which means all sanctions are lifted, and they'll very quickly be able to become a nuclear power in the region. Once israel isn't the only nuclear power in the region there will actually be more balance aa Isreal wont be able to just bully the whole region.
>>530184527This could actually end with Israel using nukes to avoid defeat, there is no ground force willing or able to go get them out of these underground bases, Trump fucked up
>>530189135How, gay nigger kike?
>>5301860891 hour black hawk flight time full speed from iraqi border to Isfahan. a place on high alert will know they are coming
>>530184633Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>>530189284Iran is like Hamas. Wow you should teach classes once you move out your parents house, you braindead retard
>>530191298>gibberish
>>530191108Correct there will never be a pullout because USA will die defense Israel if it must and nothing happing domestically short of a total economic and demographic collapse can change that and USA is predicted to endure all of that soon also too. This is the perfect event to kickstart USA death spiral
>>530185218There are many potential explanations for this1. Iran exhausted their prepared list of targets and now only shoots as fast as new satellite intelligence comes in2. Less missiles are needed to destroy a target when the enemy is low on interceptors3. A long war is now expected, so Iran needs to conserve missiles4. Iran needs to conserve missiles for future nuclear strikes, which will require hundreds of missiles in order to ensure missile defenses are overwhelmed even if Israel has saved a secret large stock of missile interceptors5. Iran prefers to save most missiles until more enemy drones have been shot down
>>530189092European warships, planes and munitions are being sent to perform "defensive" roles in order to relieve additional American forces to perform "offensive" roles.
>>530185218Launch platforms which could be destroyed were destroyed. The remaining platforms are more resilient.Could also be less missiles are being intercepted, hits aren’t allowed to be logged publicly, they then declare fewer missiles were fired because they have fewer interceptions, even if the same number of missiles were fired.I think it’s both of these. First one especially.
>>530186466I feel sorry for the Canadian education system.
>>530186089Guards who aren’t literally asleep on the job because of rampant corruption and lax of discipline.
>>530191645There’s another explanation, that the US and Israel can’t count the launches accurately anymore because the best radars are knocked out.
>>530186466>>53018574175km shadows are a nice touch.
>>530186040>Sending several onto one spot isn't a great strategy either the dirt and shit just falls back into the holeNot to mention that the first tungsten rod or whatever it is, is still in there. Like trying to fuck a bitch with a tampon inside. LMAO
>>530189593Jews have a way with honeyed words loaded with poisonous results.
Iran has destroyed 30% of the THAAD batteries owned by the United States
