>>530190573
>as if americans are capable to interpret a World map
That nuke will land in Ohio.

>>530190573
It sounds batshit but it’s not impossible
Current admin is out of control.

>>530190632
Ya, cus they've got rednecks personally piloting the nukes ya goof.

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>>530190573
one of a kind custom low yield tactical device designed to look like an Iranian self manufactured unit dropped on an a USA armored division or the 101st headquarters false flag followed by the obliteration of multiple Iranian cities seems most likely

>>530190683
Trust me it's very much possible, Trump is narcissistic person he can surpass any limits to satisfy his superiority complex he will not hold himself back

likely. they'll hit buried nuclear sites with b61-13s and say mission accomplished, which gives trump the out he needs. the world is absolutely shocked by it all, which gives him the breathing room he wants. iran stops fighting because america does.

>>530190573
They're going to start using the earthquake bombs, when they can actually fly over Iran without being shot at. Despite what they say they still don't have air supremacy and are using standoff weapons. That's why the Iranian balloon and paint decoys have worked so well.

>>530190573
Russia, Pakistan and China arent going to like all that fallout. India wont notice

>>530190632
God I hope so.

>>530190573
Trump's in a corner. It's too late to turn back now. I'm pulling for nukes because ground invasion is retarded. Guess I'm Israel aligning in a sense because I'm ok with Iranian genocide or at least apathetic to the idea. US reputation is fucked anyways

>>530190573
>Using nuke on Tehran will be the quickest way for Trump to win this war
Using a nuke on Teheran won't end this war.

>>530190750
Why. WHY?
Would you post something like that image?
Are you part of some chaotic evil religion or something?

>>530190573
You guys told me earlier this morning that niles were fake. I'm putting money on no nukes.

>>530190573
I would be shocked if a nuke isn't used in the next 20 years.

Honestly, it's a coin toss if the war goes well for America. If it goes badly Hegseth and Trump will want a nuke.

>>530190573
No. You're stupid. Fuck off.

>>530190573

Trump needs to send a squadron of A10s, to shoot down the drones.

>>530190573
well he might end up executed for war crimes sooner or later either way, but this could fast track it or even lead to global nuclear war. A mad man will make an enemy of everyone

>this button will destroy every country incl-
>*SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM* *SLAM*

>>530190573
/pol/ is full of schizos living in a fantasy land

>>530190816
>Despite what they say they still don't have air supremacy
How the hell do you know that, lmao.

>>530190573
>As for now if Iran don't stop or surrender, Using nuke on Tehran will be the quickest way for Trump to win this war and with this step the new world order will begin.
Do you think a nuclear weapon is an I won button?

>>530190573

There's 99% chance OP has written this with buttplug in his ass and 1% trying to bottom BadDragon(tm)

>>530191278
He does. He's a total moron.

>>530191222
Normally this would be stuff of fantasy but they might be larping holy warriors
No telling when they sniff their own farts too much

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>>530190573
>pre-emptive nukes
This is the best worst future. Simply hilarious.

>>530190573
nukes dont exist, idiot

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>>530191269
Because Iran shit down a JASSM, if they controlled the airspace the standoff munitions would be unnecessary

>>530191359
They have so far waged a war of choice
Bombed a school
Bombed a warship (that may or may not be armed) and let the sailors drown
Not the US I recognise

>>530191359
It's still the stuff of fantasy.

Even if we assume the US is "losing the war" a nuke wouldn't change anything. Nukes are strategic weapons while the US is fighting a tactical war. Using a Nuke does nothing to forward their military goals. Nor does it defend against drones. Only a total moron who understands nothing about modern warfare would see a nuke as a viable weapon in this scenario, and only termal TDS retards fantasize about the possibility.

>>530191430
Yeah, I'm sure all posts on X are totally legit.

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>>530190573
first 'nuke' will be fake.
like jews creating a fake happening to allow for the retaliation.

the image might not be real or correct, but no way any country is going to send the first. i only imagine indians being stupid enough, and they're not in this war.

>>530191466
They are not following doctrine.

>>530191466
Unfortunately, you just described trump and pete hesgeth. They literally don't understand asymmetrical warfare. The u s has used nukes before, and the reason was to save millions of lives that would have died if they didn't use it. The fact that we're even in this conflict
Means trump and his advisors didn't understand what they were getting themselves into. So I don't know how you're so confident.

>>530190683
If he was as smart as he thinks he is, and his entire cabinet is truly blackmailed by Israel
Why wouldn't he push the button on israel and Iran

That way he gets what he wants plus fries

>>530191466
Ah so 20+ year ground war / occupation and eventual withdrawal (not that nukes would end it either). What the fuck is the strategic goal to forever wars? Pouring money into Weopons manufacturing companies and funding the military industrial complex? Like, who lives in the fantasy land here? Is it Israel?

>>530191594
I didn't describe Trump, regardless of what your deluded fantasies project.

End your fucking life you waste of oxygen.

>>530191603
No one has signaled a forever war.
Trump stated four goals for this operation. Can you list them?
If you can't, you lose all rights to continue thus debate on account if being a total moron.

Tell me, what are the four objectives for operation epic fury?

>>530191594
They are out of depth and likely ill advised.
There’s no telling what these retards do
We are winning so good that a third CSG is needed now.

>>530191677
>>Only a total moron who understands nothing about modern warfare would see a nuke as a viable weapon in this scenario

You literally just described Trump right there. And the reason why is the whole reason we are in this conflict provesit. Also we used nukes on your fucking Jap ass so its hilarious how buthhurt my comment made you. Fucking dumb slant eye lmao.

>>530191743
There is only 1 goal Iran can’t have nukes.
And everything trump has done guarantees that Iran will get a nuke.

Iran is just playing for time.
120 days and trump looses and badly.

>>530191823
No, I didn't, you imbecile.

>>530190632
kek

>>530190573
Nukes are fake and gay

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Nukes aren't real, you fucking retards. If you don't yet know this, you are asleep.

>>530191743
Hiroshima Nagasaki maybe look into history of your own country lmao. Trump started this whole conflict thinking that killing the ayatollah during ramadan would cause the iranian people to rise up in a regime change and here you are defending him like he's not a complete moron. He doesn't understand asymmetrical warfare and that's unfortunately a fact it's not TDS to understand that.

>>530190573
You are a fucking moron memeflaggot.

>>530191862
Wrong.

Those are not the four goals of operation epic fury. Though preventing Iran from ever acquiring nukes is one of the goals.

>And everything trump has done guarantees that Iran will get a nuke.
Also wrong.

>Iran is just playing for time.
Not much time left when their entire leadership is decapitated and the IRGC and Iranian President are at odds with each other.

>120 days and trump looses and badly.
That's a bold claim, but you're also wrong. I'll give you a chance to form your argument though.

>>530191886
You dumb jap. Trump is obviously a moron, Because of the conflict we are in. Just because you don't realize you described him doesn't mean you didn't you're just too stupid to realize it slant eyed retard

>>530191971
>Trump started this whole conflict thinking that killing the ayatollah during ramadan would cause the iranian people to rise up
If that's the case, then why did he plan a 4-6 week operation while telling the Iranian people to stay indoors and wait to take their country back once they were done?

>He doesn't understand asymmetrical warfare and that's unfortunately a fact
I think he understands it a lot better than you do.


> it's not TDS to understand that.
You definitely seem to be suffering from a severe case of TDS since you can't see what's plainly clear in front of you.

>>530192004
Get back to scrubbing the latrine, Private. And don't worry, they'll be sending you to get beheaded by crazed moslems soon, so don't fret, kek.

>>530192075
I thought you said you didn't have TDS in this post >>530191971
Thanks for proving you do after all. I accept your concession.

>>530192004
No one's gonna argue with you.You're a dumb jap you don't even understand what's going on. You are believing the Kike media damage control narrative.

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>trump nukes iran
>iran nukes israel out of deperation
>israel uses the samson option and glasses the entire middle east
>millions of kikes and dune coons get turned to ash
a man can dream

>>530190573
>If Trump kept attacking on iran the global economy will crash
if a nuke is launched the global economy crashes.
if a nuke is launched the USA economy is over forever. there is no justification for a nuke except for MAD.

>>530192004
Retard can read a brochure

Iran has been planning for decapitation strikes for years. They are ready for it.

If command and control really goes away then renegade commanders can do whatever they feel.
IRGC is full of true believers crazies so this is not the epic win you think it is

War powers act gives 60 days of operations and 30-60 days to drawdown.

No one is going to extend this fucker.
Congress only cares about gibs for their district not holy war / Bibi blackmail job

>>530192131
No I actually voted for trump.You dumb retard. You have the opposite of TDS. You don't even understand what is happening in this conflict because you're just listening to kike media damage control. You don't even understand that the u s is fighting a conventional war against an enemy who is fighting an asymmetrical one, and and they're losing you don't understand anything, you're a dumb your bloodline should have died in the nukes, we dropped on your country.

>>530192091
Anon how many nigger dicks did you suck today? And why is Tyrone fucking your tranny girlfriend in the ass why you are posting. Degenerate subhuman trash.

>>530190573
>Nuke is a fail safe for US
America is quickly becoming the most hated nation around the world.
Using a nuke would turn 90% of global public opinion against both American and Israel.

>>530191269
I know everything.

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>>530190573
I double dog dare Trump to use a nuke

>>530191971
Hepaderp I watched a YOUTUBE

>>530192177
look at map and think how many nukes destroying the entire region needs. nukes are much smaller than you think

>>530190750
china and russia and private companies will have the satellite proof of where a nuke came from.
remember the fighter jet which shot the missile which blew up Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was caught on satellite image. USA has satellite which see every explosion on earth, do russia and china? you can't fake a nuclear missile travelling.

>>530190573
The only problem is Cheetos.
One guy is easier problem to solve for mutts than problems causes by using nukes.
His hearth attack would be comfy for US. JD clean up the mess and end iran shit. That would be nice for JD voters.

lol you mean what happens if Israel is gonna nuke Iran?

>>530192247
Oh yeah, I'm sure you voted for Trump. Lmao. Yeah, I TOTALLY believe that, lmao.

>>530192231
>Iran has been planning for decapitation strikes for years. They are ready for it.
Oh yeah, look how that worked out, lmao.
Their Air Force is gone, their Navy is underwater, their missile launchers are gone by 86% their leaders are all dead, the replacements for them are also dead, the IRGC is going against the will of the president of Iran and bombing all the Arab nations, antagonizing them into backing up the US.

But according to you, this is all "according to plan" lmao.

>>530191269
Even the most glazing analysis of the air war concedes that they only have superiority over the southern coast only

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>>530192281
As a Canadian dog fucker do you have any shame? Degenerate subhuman trash.

>>530192393
Do you?
Why would you think using a nuke would be acceptable?
Just take the L.

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>>530192388
Wrong again.

>>530190573
Using a nuclear weapon on a non-nuclear state would literally destroy the entire world order and global economy, Trump would need to completely lose his goddamn mind to order nuclear strikes

>>530192384
Their airforce is ancient and their navy isn’t much either.
It’s pretty much expected that it would take damage

>>530192514
>would take damage
Lmao, understatement of the century. It's gone.
But you said losing was part of their plan?

I don't even think he has that option. Iran has been waiting for this blunder of us going in for a long time it seems. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of them having several hypersonics ready in some remote mountain area just waiting to launch at isreal the moment something like this was tried. He drop the nuke and Israel would be wiped out. It's just my opinion from what i'm seeing here of course. I have no idea whats to come and frankly am pretty nervous about it.

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>>530190573
>no source
Fuck off, brown.

>>530190573
Have the US and Israel forgotten that even after killing the Ayatollah, the effects of the Red Flag of Revenge and the Red Aqeeq Ring are still active?

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>>530191510
Indeed, let's try Telegram?

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>>530192687
Western politicians are the most retarded hypocrites.

>>530192580
What the fuck are you doing splitting hairs
It degrades Irans capability yes but ultimately won’t be the thing that results in objectives being achieved.
If this is all they needed to do then they have achieved it. They can go home

>>530192687
What about Telegram bro?
Opinions on the internet are worth something now?

Trump doesn't give a shit about what Russia does because all their Intel has amounted to nothing at all.

Their only 6 kills were reserves during the first wave by a drone that got through.
The only losses the US has suffered has been 3 jets downed to friendly fire.

Iran has done absolutely nothing with their Intel and they've lost the ability to do so. It's why they're resorting to bombing their Arab neighbors, in hopes that they will pressure the US into backing off, but that's also not working.

>>530192787
It doesn't degrade, it demolishes it. US has total air supremacy over Iranian skies. So much confidence in fact that they're sending in B-52s which are giant targets for anti air. That tells you just how fucked Iran is.

Next step, the US will secure southern Iran, control the straight of Hormuz to allow trade to resume, but more importantly, completely cut off Iran from all trade. This will destroy the nation. USA simply needs to control the straight, and continue to slowly dismantle the IRGC piece by piece until there's nothing left.

>>530190573
>Using nuke on Tehran will be the quickest way for Trump to win this war
what makes you think that nuking Tehran would end the war right away?
when US nuked Japan, Japan surrendered only 1 month later
but it wasn't because of nukes
US average bombs already did comparable damage
it was the fact that Japan's main allies were dealt with and most importantly that the vast, equipped and experienced Soviet Army after dealing with Hitler and after Yalta's agreements started to rapidly dismantle Japan's defenses
this is how US made Japan capitulate, they made USSR do the dirty work

so you'd have to use more than 1 nuke in Iran
how will US and allies sell this to the rest of the world?
most importantly can you imagine a world where nuclear states can suddenly nuke non-nuclear states to achieve geopolitical or security objectives
a world where any country can get a nuke and potent delivery methods?
do you know what just a few nukes exploded in space would do to all the satellites for years?
this is how you end civilizations and maybe even humanity itself

but US already nuked civilians, used chemical weapons (Agent Orange) and biological weapons (man-made Covid) for geopolitical purposes, so nothing is surprising at this point

>>530192916
Ok what’s taking them so long then?
Hurry up

>>530190573
And what makes it seem like that would be less of a crime an fucking children on Epstein's island?

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>>530192972
Are you retarded?
I mean, clearly you are. But, you don't understand how things work, do you?

It's very simple, obviously the primary goal for the US is to control the straight, and possibly the oil fields of Khuzestan.

What do you think HAPPENS to Iran when they lose their trade, and their oil fields. Not only that, but the entire southern coast is on the opposite side of the Zargos mountains. So without an air force or Nazy, they lose all means to take it back too.

It's not that
>USA only has air Supremacy over southern coast
It's that, controlling the southern coast is the most important military objective for the US, so they're bombing the shit out of it in order to fully secure it. Lmao.

Without access to trade, and oil, the collapse of the regime becomes inevitable, and they lose all means to rebuild or fund their military, weapons, proxies, and so.

Geographically, Iran is extremely vulnerable, and the US is exploiting this.

>>530192818
Okay, you've got me there, let's try the military times:
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2026/03/05/largest-us-military-hospital-abroad-halts-labor-delivery-services-amid-iran-war/

>>530193268
you are a subhuman jap monkey. be happy the US didn't eradicate you all

>>530193268
>Geographically, Iran is extremely vulnerable
Bait thread

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>>530191594
>the reason was to save millions of lives
you honestly believe that? It wasn't to preemptively end a war that wasn't financially sustainable any more? It wasn't to try out their new apocalyptic toy and flex at their emerging Soviet rival and cement the power relations in what would be known as the era defining cold war? Saving (american) lives was an afterthought, a handy excuse to seem humanitarian while in reality obliterating thousands of civilians in the most gruesome, horrendous way that made the Dresden destroying Brits seem like children playing with matches. You can't be this gullible but looking at your flag you probably are. It's hard to admit your government would commit such atrocities for their cynical kikeish interests but come the fuck on.

>>530193317
The fact that you're mad only serves to prove me right.

You lose. You just realized that the US is going to win this, and you're angry.
Get fucked. Lmao.

>>530193345
truth. money and power postering prevail. our leaders are psychopaths. they dont care about dead zogbots

>>530193324
Yes, it is.
Abd the fact that not only you do not know this, but also, that was your entire takeaway from that post, proves we're operating on two very distant IQ margins, and you can't keep up.

I guess go back to posting your bait and agitating retards. I suppose it'll keep you busy until the US topples Iran and you find a new reason to screech about Trump.

considering US is run by a christian zionist doomsday cult, i actually believe this

>>530192687
>Indeed, let's try Telegram?
"Russians are providing information to Iran"
lmao
first of all, what information?
you think Iran doesn't have the locations of all US military bases in the region?
you think those bases and buildings are all mobile?
Iran has the coordinates

second,.Iran has its own spy satellites: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Space_Agency

third, since 2025, Russia and Iran have some sort of active strategic agreement (but not alliance), so I'm sure Iran gets "some information and help"

fourth, US not some arbiter in this Ukrainian conflict
it covertly destroyed Nord Streams, which is an act of war by US and some allies against Russia in itself
US is the main architect and sponsor of the proxy war, in which it is still actively participating by still providing Ukraine weapons and ammo, all the intel from hundreds of satellites and analysis and by providing military communications backbone (Starlink)

in other words, Russia is not only morally allowed but should do way more than just "provide information to Iran"

>>530193345
yes anon
I grew up here in the states
schools to this day teach that the japanese are irrational savages and civilian areas had to be nuked to stop them.
and nobody questions it.
theres a lot of stuff like that in american primary education
>>530192177
we arent lucky enough

>>530193411
>you win if you crash the global economy, lose all your allies, lose all your military hardware, go further in debt, and have to occupy a giant fuck huge mountainous country forever while dealing with rebels/insurgents daily.
Dumb slant eyed incel monkey

>>530193588
Cry harder you seething lefty. The economy is fine, and will continue to be fine.

The US will control the straight of Hormuz very soon, and traffic will resume.

Calm down.

>>530193268
You nigger retard controlling the airspace over Hormuz means nothing if they don't have boots on the ground there. And you're not finding anyone willing to die for USrael inside Iran. Didn't your sissy drumpf literally backtrack into saying he never wanted any Kurds to fight in Iran because they showed him the cold shoulder lmao

>>530190573
>drops a nuke
>actual world war 3 starts
nice plan

>>530193839
>because they showed him the cold shoulder lmao
Yeah, that's totally what happened bro

>>530193722
Nigger I paid more than 2 yuros for gas the other day and we're only a bit more than a few weeks in.
Gay ass faggot glowniggers I hate VPN whores

>>530190573
If it were me I would accidentally put my elbow on the button.

Kill all glowniggers.
I denounce the Talmud and every glownigger should do so too to prove they're not one

>>530193954
That's your own fault. Get fucked. Elect better politicians next time you stupid cuck. You get what you voted for.

>>530192091
You’re so stupid it’s not worth engaging with you

>>530193268
>It's very simple, obviously the primary goal for the US is to control the straight, and possibly the oil fields of Khuzestan.
not only that, but also Yemen - an Iranian proxy that basically controls the second main trade artery

this in itself is also or mostly an attack on China and the "multi-polar world order", as most of Iran's oil goes to China, while China gets 40% of its oil from the region

ideally, US wants to control all of Iran and a few countries north of Iran in order to control current and future China's export routes, on land and sea
(they wanted to deal with Russia first using sanctions and Ukrainian cannon fodder, but that didn't work out yet, so they shifted priorities)

>so they're bombing the shit out of it in order to fully secure it. Lmao.
good luck doing that without boots on the ground

>Without access to trade, and oil, the collapse of the regime becomes inevitable
except things don't go always as planned
the proxy war architects in Ukrainian expected Russian economy and regime to collapse long ago

>>530192478
What does this screenshot mean even in your stupid mind?

>>530194290
You have this thing called eyes. They give you the ability to do this thing called "reading" where you look at words to gain meaning from them, you stupid negro.

>>530194044
Yeah sure let me just vote for US elections next time in hopes of a real nationalist for wypipo to come out on top.
Fucking retarded baby feces eating bannon-epstein cabal

>>530190573
How can military stikes like this even be a presidential decision? Shouldnt there be a vote about stuff like this?

>>530193563
There’s truth to that (they weren’t surrendering)

>>530193920
Tell us your opinion on what happened or shut up, slant eyed yellow nigger!

>>530194500
>Elect socialist leaders
>Get socialist problems
I never said anything about letting a stupid fuck like you vote in US elections. In fact, thank God you don't. Keep your shitty problems to your shitty country, abd cry harder about US Dominance. Get fucked.

Trump literally won 365 times in 2025, so how hard could it be for him to win against Iran? Especially since he only accepts "unconditional surrender" from Iran—which simply means that once the US determines Iran is no longer a threat and all military objectives are met, Iran is effectively in a state of "unconditional surrender," regardless of whether Iran actually makes any public statement about it.
This sounds like completely redefining what unconditional surrender means. By his logic, Iran is basically already in a state of unconditional surrender right now. As long as Trump says he won, then he won. After all, he's the one who claimed Iran was a threat in the first place; changing his tune to say they're no longer a threat would literally just take him a minute.
For me,a Chinese. Just wanna see how it ends

>>530194396
You deserve death for being so stupid

>>530194542
Yes it’s required under our constitution but the requirement has been diluted heavily in recent decades

>>530194691
Denounce the Talmud and show us you're not part of the epstein-bannon """"nationalist"""" cabal. Denounce the Talmud to show us you're here rooting for white people and not Israel

>>530194735
I'm not the one believing Trump is about to start World War 3.

>>530190573
one won't do it.
you will need a significant number, no less than 50.

>>530194806
I denounce the Talmud.
Now what?

Btw, Japan relies on that region for 90% of its crude oil and like 70% of its LNG—word is they only have about two weeks of reserves left. With the Strait of Hormuz blocked, the Japanese are the ones sweating bullets the most right now.
The last time their oil got cut off like this, Pearl Harbor got bombed. Can't wait to see what kind of stunt they pull this time lmao.

>>530194844
Why do you love Jew cock so much anon. Drumpf is literally a sissy walking to the tunes of Israel. I'm not here to tell you to go support socialists, they would suck Jew cock just as much. But NOW is the time eradicate Jew cock suckers from your """"nationalist"""" larpers. They're like 90 % grifters, it'll be easy to bring them in line

>>530195009
Hating Islam and wanting the Islamic Regime in Iran to collapse doesn't make you an ally of the Jews you stupid fuck.

Islam is just as much of a threat to western nations as Israel, and if you're rooting for Iran in this whole thing to stick it to Israel, you're just as much of a hindrance to the white race as any Jew.

Stop being such a narrowminded idiot.

Jews = Bad
Jews hate Iran
Does not mean Iran = Good

You stupid fuck.

Iran is bad, and the Islamic regime is long overdue for collapse. The WORST thing that could happen to the world is for Iran to acquire nukes and become the next north Korea.

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>>530194844
talmud permits denying it. no idea why "denounce the talmud" ever became a thing here. Spell God

>>530194977
Japan has a year of reserves. It prepared for this exact scenario. The Straight will be up and running before Japan even has to tap into their reserves.

>>530195255
>talmud permits denying it
Idk. I'm not a kike, I'm an atheist.

>>530194044
>>530194691
>just vote your way out of this bro
our far right opposition is run by a lesbian living in Switzerland with her brownoid sri lankan partner and they're so far up Israel and Russia's ass it's just embarrassing. And still they're branded as nazis that have to be pushed out of the system by mindbroken leftists and their normie cattle. Any actual nationalist party even considering ethnic interests would be curbstomped in a heartbeat. And that applies to the entire western world. Fuck off with your retarded democratic delusions.

>>530195209
I hope Iran gets bombed to the stone age there's not a single tear you will see from me being wasted on Shia niggers.
Doesn't change the fact that Iran is literally a nothing burger and this whole war is a fad from mileikowski to escape prison time. All he had to do was convince delusional fanatics in the us government and the Israel one that this war will make jesus return and they all ate it up.
Just saying that if your priorities are with wypipo you should just take a shit on Iran and Israel and focus on your nation's problem

>>530195255
Didn't know that thanks for the heads-up

>>530190573
>Corpses need to surrender!
Top-tier muslim cope kek.

>>530195324
Probably, I am just saying asking a supposed Jew to spell God is a better process of elimination. Most Jews won't dare, even if they claim to be atheist because they are permitted to lie to Goyim, but not allowed to spell God

>>530190632
Nahhhh bruh average day in Ohio fr :skull: :wilted_flower:

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>stucked

>>530195389
>Iran is literally a nothing burge
A nothing burger that's been funding global terror for decades, has openly called for the death of all western nations, wants the spread of Islam, and shamelessly bragged to the US about being weeks away from developing 11 nukes during their negotiations.

If you don't see why Trump went in, and why kicking these idiots back to the stone age before they actually finally got nukes, then idk what to tell you.

Fuck Islam, and fuck Iran. I hope the end of the regime means the collapse of Islam around the world for good.

>>530195459
I've said thank God already ITT. I used to be Catholic before becoming an atheist, so I have no qualms with the idea of God. My views just align closer to Buddhism, as Christianity is another Jew religion.

>>530190573
Yes check the current movements in Ranstein base in Germany. All the stuff related to nuclear material, decontamination, etc.....ufffff.

Reasons why:

- Oil price, inflation, food, water, etc...
- Hormuz
- Iran destroying Israel
- Iran surviving everything...

Yeah this shit got out of control...but what comes after America nukes Iran huh?

Or what if Iran also got nukes?

The chosen people opened the pandoras box...

The only possible usecase for a nuke in Iran is collapsing their nuclear enrichment sites that they most definitely didn't take out with le midnight hammer

But I'm not sure the US has a suitable weapon. If I remember right they cancelled nuclear earth penetrators back in the 2000s and your regular dial-a-yield 100-400 kiloton American warhead might not be enough. Back in the day hardened sites like this had multiple-megaton yield weapons assigned to them and a direct hit was generally thought of as being able to take them out but still hardly a guarantee. America's largest warhead is 1 megaton.

>>530195258
Your own media literally admitted it: you have about 250 days of crude oil and barely 2 weeks of LNG.
But of course, considering Japan's proud history of falsifying data and your classic Imperial Headquarters (Daihonei) propaganda tradition, I'd say even those numbers are pure copium.
Instead of acting tough on here, you might want to worry more about your skyrocketing utility bills and grocery prices this month. Lmao.

>>530195570
They were literally about to negotiate Iran diluting their stockpile down to non-threatening levels. They would never be enriching to dangerous levels again. Their supply line has been cut with rebels having kicked out assad. Dunno about the Iraqi-jordanian border, if they would be able to smuggle arms through there, but EVERYTHING WAS GOING WELL FOR ISRAEL. Until mileikowski decided prison beds are too uncomfy so he had to start another war. It's literally in his fucking playbook the last 2 years, he just starts conflict after conflict, fucks over Israelis all so he can escape jail time. And his mizrahi nigger cattle and goy cattle miggers are eating it up

I can see it happening and the whole world would simply "CONDEMN" (virtue signal) without actually doing anything.

>>530195408
It's no guarantee but yeah asking them to denounce the Talmud is pretty pointless, asking them to spell God is a better way to tell, they'll usually ignore you but who knows, maybe theres a loophole for that too. "it's not spelling if I copy paste" They love trying to trick their god, but maybe their god counts copy paste as writing... it's just goofy, just assume everyone here is a jew
lol

>>530190942
using 10 nukes would

>>530195927
trump is selfish and vain enough to do something like that if he thought it could either make look victorious or keep him from losing his power. He is a man on the verge of losing everything from so many different angles so I wouldn't rule anything that he thinks can save his skin out

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>>530190573
Nuke Mexico first.

>>530190750
Different nations warheads leave different signatures, you can determine the source of the material through nuclear forensic chemistry.

>>530195665
I wasn't accusing you, kraut fren was, just trying to offer a better means of testing for yids, not gonna read through all your posts. it doesn't matter if someone is a jew or good goy or whatever to me. I just want Israel glassed

>>530194605
no there isn't
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both American state terror attacks on japanese civilians

>>530195862
Iran literally bragged about having enough enriched Uranium to make 11 nukes in a matter of weeks, when they opened negotiations, lmao.

That was definitely not their angle and you are a fool for believing them. You think only kikes lie? How do you think Iran funded its proxies? With what money, I wonder....? Peaceful nuclear energy has always been a bogus story for the nation whose government openly chants death to America and only exists with the sole purpose of spreading Islam throughout the world.

>>530195759
I did some research into this after you brought it up. An EPW would be idea for this situation actually. As not only would it completely destroy the facility (yield 1000x stronger than any MOP), but it would irradiate the entire tunnel system, effectively salting the Earth for Iran.

It's a real shame congress shut that program down.

Trump is old and has nothing to lose. He will threaten Iran with a nuclear strike on its underground nuclear enrichment site

>>530190573
Anyone who uses a nuke in a first strike would prob get nuked by all other powers
At least I hope the posturing will be that way
If it approaches that, I assume there would be tons of leaks to europe, china and russia, causing them to warn the us against nukes
I know trump and the admin are stupid but they can't be this stupid surely

>>530196853
They could nuke the Uranium mines, actually....

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>>530190632
topkek
wouldn't surprise me, look at the Epstein file redactions. They are a nation full of incompetent "people"

>>530190573
Space is fake
Nukes aren't real
eed

The problem with Iran having nukes is those retards will 100% use them. Is it a bad thing to have someone be a retard preemptively? Well that's one of those Oracle vase noodle bakers

>>530196701
You high on that American propaganda supply.
America is the only nation to use nukes on another nation.
America overthrew the Iranian government and installed a puppet.
America funded and armed Iraq to fight an eight year war against Iran.
America deserves everything it gets from the Iran and more.

>>530195209
>Iran is bad, and the Islamic regime is long overdue for collapse.
why even hide behind this virtue signaling?
just say how it is, you want US to control Iranian resources and strategic territory

but there is a problem, the world is different than it was when US went to Iraq
Persians are different from Iraqis, as is China and Russia in 2003, with which US is currently fighting a proxy war

now imagine if Iran's war plan in case of war with the great Satan is to hit him where it hurts by attacking ships there and energy infrastructure for however long it takes, until death?
how well do you think Western economies will do without the region's resources?

so it all comes down to Persians' resilience and motivation to fight and what sort of help they will get from the big players
and I wouldn't be so sure about the outcome

the chain of cause and effect hs been completely lost in this war, which is of course by design. with japan, they refused to give up after years of intense battle. after ten days in Iran, it would make zero sense to use a nuke strategically.

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>>530190573
>nuclear war
you think zog will bless us with such epic kino? doubt, they never go all out.

>>530197111
Lol. Illiterate retard. These are statements straight from the horse's mouth and has historical evidence to back it. How and why do you even think the Islamic Regime came to power in Iran?

Iran wasn't Muslim until 1979.

>>530197120
That's a nice fantasy bro, you should write a book.

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>>530197191
>Lol. Illiterate retard.
>Iran wasn't Muslim until 1979.

What even is the status quo right now?
everyone on the internet keep spouting Iran is literally un-conquerable because of its terrain and 90 million people.
If your goal is to subjugate, GOVERN them, maybe that's right.
But what US-Israel want to do is DESTROY them so Israel could dominate the middle east once and for all, before moving on to bigger targets like China/the rest of the world.
USA is THE strongest military on the planet with unlimited power of money and weaponry, they could simply outlast Iran and then BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF EVERYTHING from the air, no need for nukes. I mean, this is already happening right now with US bombing Tehran and its oil generators.

Unless of course, China and Russia physically join the war, but so far they're just monitoring the situation from their cuck chairs, so...

>>530197345
The Shah was secular you fucking moron. It wasn't a theocracy until the Islamic Revolution.

I hope that the global economy will crash. I have supplies for 3 years so let just let it come.

>>530190573
I could see it. Hope it goes bad for him/(((them))).

>>530197518
>The Shah
You mean the puppet that the Americans installed after overthrowing their government?

If he tries to use a nuke his own military will depose him at gunpoint

>>530190573
>Trump would rather use nukes than be embarassed

>>530197730
americans won't do shit.

>>530197771
I mean has he ever ever admitted that he's been wrong? Are there any public examples of this?

>>530197730
Yeah that's a bit optimistic. Would be nice tho

>>530197518
Notice how you completely dodged the LNG reality check, J-anon?
You panicked so hard about your country running out of gas that you actually typed "Iran wasn't Muslim until 1979" and became the laughingstock of the entire thread.
Keep writing your little Tom Clancy military fanfics to cope. Your island is going dark in 14 days, and no amount of forum shitposting will turn your lights back on. Tick-tock.

>>530197806
Oh, an Indonesian! I'm just watching a documentary about orangutans that live in Indonesia. I hope I could come and see those in person some day.

>>530197779
>>530197889

>>530197911
you ok?

>>530197953
I am! Wanna know why? Our leaders aren't ravaging pedophile mass murderers.

Are you okay?

>>530190573
Makes sense. It actually is similar to japan. Ground invasion too painful.

>>530198003
No, if you put it that way..Hope Trump is executed before this ends, also alot of others in our government and our greatest allies.

>>530197257
US/West fighting a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine (with plenty of elements of direct war) is fact
this conflict is still ongoing
so why wouldn't Russia help Iranians fight the US?

most of Iran's oil goes to China, that region is important to China in general for its energy and trade
so why wouldn't China help Iran?

how smart would it be for these countries to just wait until US deals with every friendly country in the world?
they certainty have a significant combined military and economic power
Putin alone has the power to destroy both US and EU combined and all their bases in Japan and elsewhere in less than an hour
in fact, Russia's doctrine allowed him to use nukes not only against Ukraine, but all of its sponsors

when thinking about Iran, you can't ignore these other details
that's why you don't realize that the collective Trump is playing a Russian roulette, despite whatever deal they reached in Alaska

>>530190573
And how exactly does starting a nuclear war fix any of that, OP?

I hope he does honestly. It would be so fucking funny.

>>530198242
>Putin alone has the power to destroy both US and EU combined and all their bases in Japan and elsewhere in less than an hour
4 years and Putin hasn't even won against Ukraine

>>530198303
Nukes (a lot of them) would end the war since the enemy would literally be exterminated.

He doesn’t care. So any prediction you make will not make sense. What will make sense is patterning their actions consistently. Predictably they will continue to use what strikes they can across the globe. They started WW3.
They were talking about grabbing Greenland a month ago. Now its cuba.
He’s wrecking the govt, putting it in debt, stealing, and pushing buttons because there is an ego problem. They are below understanding, and below capacity of winning. They dont identify with the govt so he’s going to continue to wreck it and make it dysfunctional. Various foreign actors take advantage. Foreign govt is bewildered how stupid their actions are.

>>530190632
digits and it lands in California

>>530190573
>Nuke is a fail safe for US
Despite the thousands of reasons it's a bad idea, it still would not fully disable their launch capabilities.

>>530190785
>iran stops fighting
iran is not a cohrent political entity atm
they are not capable of a military wide surrender

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>>530190942
>>530195927
>>530196086
I know 4channers are retarded nowadays but any use of nuclear weapons = ww3

Let me spell it out, since you're all pea-brained imbeciles
>Iran be ally to China n shiet
>dey also be ally to Russia n shiet
>dem have the biggest nuclear pile of bombs n shit
>nuking iran mean dey gonna glass tel aviv, nigga
>israel samson option (bombs duh shit out of) the erf with da nukes
>dat mean u gon die nigga, fr fr no cap
>den those, ayo grok what it be like 3 billion or someth muslims gonna rise up and attack israel ong type shit
*hold up, let me take a break to make retarded ape noises, cuz it's already tldr*
ooo ooo ooo aaa aaa aaa
>anyways
>DA WHOLE WORLD GON BE COOKED, NIGGA

>>530198338
>4 years and Putin hasn't even won against Ukraine
because it's not Ukraine he is fighting, on top of 100 other details that you have no clue about
the intact government buildings in Kiev's center after all this time, which would have been the first target for US and any other "Western civilized country", despite Russia having such capability, should have given you a clue that you do not understand the conflict at all

>>530198381
There's literally thousands of way to describe how what you said is fucking retarded

>>530198591
china and russia won't do shit
samson option is a bluff
even if it's not, you can simply shoot down all the nukes midair

nukes would solve all the problems for the epstein class

>>530190573
It's almost guaranteed.
1. Hard to win otherwise without suffering many U.S. casualties
2. Iran refusing to capitulation
3. U.S. has nukes and Iran doesn't
4. AI advisers will always advise to use nukes to win
5. Nukes solve all the problems easily

We're entering a new world of power real politik where those with nukes will bully those without.

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>>530198668
The "Ukraine War" could have ended within days if Russians pushed towards Kiev. It did not end because
>the primary goal of the war is to exterminate ethnic ukranians
>then replace them with Chabad Jews and rebuild "Holy Khazaria"

> might use a nuke

meanwhile pissrael is burning
TKD

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>>530198727
I could explain to you in thorough detail how what you said is retarded but to even think of typing something so moronic means there's nothing that could convince you.

>>530190573
There's literally no reason to use a nuke in Iran. There's no leadership left to surrender. It would make little to no difference to the situation on the ground, and it's not like you could just glass the whole country.

>>530190573
the US miltary will do what ever there AI overlord will tell them to do.

>>530190573
> There's a 30 percent chance
So stupid.

>>530190785
There’s no reason for Iran to stop. America has proven we will simply randomly bomb their civilians and kill their leaders even during diplomatic talks. The difference between war with America and peace with America appears to be that in peace you don’t fight back

>>530198784
(((They))) are literally already doing it. Almost all of Ukraine's state-owned assets have already been bought up by American Jewish conglomerates (BlackRock etc.). Dead Ukrainian soldiers can't even get a proper burial anymore because the land for graveyards got bought out by these same hedge funds for real estate development. Seriously, how many Ukrainian men are even left alive at this point?

>ackshually drumpf wouldn't use nukes because [logical reasoning]
Trump isn't being logical. he WILL use nukes.

>>530195244
> nuclear winter
So stupid.

>>530199247
nobody is benefiting from your stupid posts ITT.

>>530198985
> there AI overlord
Are you even trying here?

>>530198784
>The "Ukraine War" could have ended within days if Russians pushed towards Kiev. It did not end because
hey fatty, who do you think bombed 4 pipes in NATO's backyard at the depth of around 100m, in territorial waters of US allies, at the same time, while threatening half a year prior to that that they will "find a way" to close Nord Stream 2?
this alone proves that the conflict is proxy war lead by US against Russia

and no, it could have not ended in few days
as US was preparing Ukraine and its elites to fight Russia in a proxy war for 8 years, after conducting a coup in 2014 and installing a puppet regime
Russia went in with ~150k force, when Ukraine already had 200k contract
when on day 1 Ukraine closed borders for adult males and started mobilization

but most importantly, on day 1 all Ukrainian forces went into cities, including Kiev, where they also gave out rifles to anyone who wanted them
the only way to take Kiev was to level it completely
do something that Russia wouldn't do, because Ukraine is not just some random country for Russia

besides, Russia's initial goal was to scare of Ukraine's elites and to achieve security and other objectives without bloodshed
of course, your rulers weren't preparing Ukraine for all this time to fight Russia just so that it would end then and there

now, fuck off :)

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>>530199454
Both Russia and Ukraine are controlled by Chabad Jews. Putin and Zelensky are ethnic Jews. Trump also, is Chabad.

Zelensky has stated -- pretty openly NUMEROUS times that he intends to recreate Ukraine as a "Greater Israel". How do you do that?
>create a fake and gay forever war
>force all the young men of breeding age to die in a trench
>repatriate all the Jews who conveniently fled right the country right before the start of the war (which is happening right now)

Everything else is a distraction. Russia could have pulled their entire army and went block-to-block if they wanted. Or -- they could have secured their desired territories and initiated a ceasefire.

You quite frankly know very little of these things. Just like the Indonesian. You look at surface-level info but never discern the true motive behind warfare. That's why I do world conquests in Eu4 while you probably play Civ 6, babby. The difference in intellect is too vast.

>>530190683
Trump absolutely would use a Nuke hes a very prideful guy and hes constantly trying to mimic what preesidents of the past did "but better" or do stuff to be "the first" . The only Issue is everybody is turning on Trump, A.I. really is going to save his ass because even if Iran released any damping epstein photos Trump and his supporters are just going to say its A.I. , do a press conference explaining why its A.I. (even if its NOT a.i) and people will memory hole it

>>530191437
Then your idea of the US came from hollywood propaganda. They have always been gutless freaks on all sides.

>>530190573
Years ago I was playing risk legacy and made a prediction ww3 would start in Iran. The event host started ww3 in Ukraine, but looks like I’m winning the big picture.

>>530199247
>Trump isn't being logical. he WILL use nukes.
good, let's watch the whole Free world (Free as in not US puppets) turn against the US
and let's open a historical chapter where certain countries are allowed to solve their geopolitical objectives using nukes

and the immediate question is, what will US do when others will follow the example?
- Russia nukes non-nuclear states that fuel the proxy war in Ukraine
- North Korea nukes South Korea

China and Russia will form a military alliance, it will turn into Cold War on steroids without rules, limits, manners of behavior
any cargo ship becomes a target by some "third party" drone, as is already happening

I think humanity is really fucked, no matter what
all because certain people think they are exceptional and thought they could point something on the globe, say "I want it" and to have it

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>>530200913
In the long run Trump using a nuke on Iran would make the world safer.

Literally every country in the world would drop everything and pursue nuclear weapons. It would be understood the US was a psycho Hitler tier murderer and the only way to be safe was to get nuclear weapons.

It would be the last war ever waged.

Iran is mountainous as shit, nukes wouldnt be very effective there. You hit a city in a plain and all the vale hamlets around it are mostly unaffected.
Too much of a PR risk for little strategical advantage.

>>530200913
>>530201067
It's doubtful that Trump would win in Iran by using a nuke. They aren't magic for forcing people to do what you want. They're just huge bombs. The nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were less devastating than the firebombing of Tokyo. The Japanese did not surrender because of the nukes, they surrendered because they didn't want to be raped and have their culture wiped out by Soviet occupation.

If Trump nuked Iran the Iranians would not surrender. If Tehran was a ruin, they'd still fight. He'd have to embark on a program of genocide to win, but even that would take an occupation. It's not realistic considering what the American people are willing to put up with. Years of exploding oil prices and inflation, a draft, international pariah status much worse than anything in America's history before, all for a war America did not need to be in. Not happening and the Iranians know it.

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>>530196981
>The problem with Iran having nukes is those retards will 100% use them.
This is flat out untrue. Nukes are not offensive weapons, they are defensive. Iran having nukes would make the middle east safer and stabler as they counterbalanced Israeli nukes. That is why Israel doesn't want Iran to have them and launched this war.

>>530190573
nukes are fake they aren't real

>>530196162
yeah, but we know (((our greatest ally))) has material from the US, and others (S. Africa), so unless Trump expresses his intent well ahead, or claims responsibility immediately that it was probably kikes. They want us out of the region as well.

>>530201777
Digits confirm

>>530190573
You don't blow up the world because you might be embarrassed. The military needs to step in and stop him before it's too late.

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>>530190573
He would become the most reviled man in all of history. The left would see him as the new Hitler, the right would drop any support for him. Also the fallout would blow to neighboring countries and contaminate them for a decade. Even he isn't this stupid.

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insane Talmudic Jews with thermonuclear weapons... what could possibly go wrong here?

>>530190573
Do it. Let's get this party started.

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>>530199906
>map of heavenly jerusalem
lol, usa & england are that already, jews can buy everytrhing they desire, aryan women for sex, all the best clothing, shelter & food, thats what their paradise looks like.

“What the British Empire meant to Disraeli is explained by one of his protégés: “England is the Israel of his dreams.” This statement perfectly clarifies the economic and political objective of the Jews in England.

[...] But who the master and lord of this war unleashed against Germany and the peoples used in it truly is was demonstrated, among many others, by the Jew Heaver, the secretary of the “British Israel Federation,” who declared in London in 1942, among other things: “The British are the people of Israel, the United States of North America are Israel, just as Great Britain is Israel. There must be no rivalry of national aims and claims between them…””

Army Personnel Office (Wehrmacht) - What We Are Fighting For - Issued in January 1944
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german original:

„Was für Disraeli das britische Empire bedeutet, sagt uns einer seiner Schützlinge: „England ist das Israel seiner Träume". Dieses Wort schafft vollkommene Klarheit über das wirtschaftliche und politische Ziel der Juden in England.

[...] Wer aber der Herr und Meister dieses gegen Deutschland entfesselten Krieges und der dazu benutzten Völker ist, das bewies neben vielen anderen der Jude Heaver, der Sekretär der „British Israel Federation“, der 1942 in London u. a. erklärte; „Die Briten sind das Volk Israel, Die Vereinigten Staaten von Nordamerika sind Israel, ebenso wie Großbritannien Israel ist. Es darf zwischen ihnen keine Rivalität der nationalen Ziele und Ansprüche geben...““

Personal Amt Des Heeres, Wofür Kämpfen Wir 1944 153 S.

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>>530190573
there's a 0 per cent chance trump uses a nuke because he always chickens out, Israel might do it tho

>>530191222
Pol isn’t the one with nukes, it’s Zionist extremists

>>530201358
>The Japanese did not surrender because of the nukes, they surrendered because of the Soviets

Zigger revisionist history. Soviets didn't have any effective means of invading mainland Japan.
You

>>530203021

>>530190573
That would guarantee an American loss. Every other country on the fucking planet would get involved on Iran's side, and there'd be massive domestic unrest.

Iran has already won the war.
The US is taking a blow economically that will take years to recover from.
Europe is taking a blow economically, and they all know the US and isrel caused it.
The US has lost a huge amount of standing in the world.
Iran showed we can't protect our allies in the ME.
Iran is expending 10's of millions in military hardware where the US is spending 10's of BILLIONS of dollars in hardware, not including the logistic cost.
Iran has shown it's jews that control the United States.
The US is significantly more vulnerable to any shenanigans China and Russia decide to start.
Trump is essentially begging Iran to come to the negotiating table.
ME countries are pulling their US investments.

Only way US "wins" is by whipping some Area51 level tech.

The more this Iran thing turns into a clusterf8ck, the more I think it's intentional. TPTB want to lead the world down to some chaotic path where everyone ends up getting so stressed out and tired at all the violence, chaos, dissension, and insecurity, everyone immediately buys into whatever BS solution TPTB have planned for us.
Hegelian dialect. Create problem, then provide solution.

>>530190573
Trump can easily blow up the remaining military of Iran and just leave
>nooooo it’s not possible
Obviously it is

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>>530190573
if DRUMPF uses nuuks the PUTLER will use nuuks and then CHINA will and then FRANCE will

>>530203964
so what, then? what options are there if bombing Iran doesn't work?

>>530204874
great question isn't it

>>530201358
Japs surrender because the emperor actually cared about his own people
Iran is Persian run by Arabs
They don’t care about their own people at all.
Even mass genocide against all of Iran won’t change that

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>>530190573
>>If Trump kept attacking on iran the global economy will crash and he will loose mid term election for sure
Illiteracy. Republicans have lost forever in the upcoming elections. The economy is already crashed.

Trump should use nukes and then become a dictator.

>>530204874
Blow up everything and leave
Let the Muslims rule over rubble

>>530190573
Go on, accelerate!

>>530204874
>what options are there if bombing Iran doesn't work?
1. Full US withdrawal from the entire region, including ALL military assets
2. Iran gets nukes.

>>530205208
funny how both seem equally as likely at this point

>>530204874
We get the fuck out of the region and take the L.
We shouldn't have started fucking around there in the first place.
The longer we're fucking around in Iran, the greater the cost economically, militarily, and strategically.
Every day we're over there, the hole we're making for ourselves gets deeper and deeper.

This isn't even our war. We're fucking around over there on behalf of kikes.

>>530196981
Pakistan has nukes and they haven't used them yet and they seem more radicalized and religious than iran

>>530203283
>Many people today don’t realise that, while the Soviets had been allied with Britain and the US in the fight against Hitler, they were not actually at war with Japan at the time of the Potsdam Declaration. The Soviet Union and Japan had in fact signed a neutrality pact back in 1941, which served both their interests nicely. The Soviets could focus on taking on the Nazis without worrying about being attacked on the other side by Japan, while the Japanese were free to concentrate on their brutal battles with the US.

>Things only changed on 9 August, the very day of the second atomic attack on Nagasaki, when the Soviets suddenly broke the pact, mounting a massive invasion of Japan’s territories that decimated Japanese troops.

>Hiroshima had happened days before, but it was only now that the Japanese leaders fell into a panic. As historian Tsuyoshi Hasegawa puts it, “The Soviet entry into the war played a much greater role than the atomic bombs in inducing Japan to surrender because it dashed any hope that Japan could terminate the war through Moscow's mediation.”

>That’s the key point: the Japanese weren’t fighting to win. They knew they’d have to give in eventually, but they wanted to surrender on the most favourable terms, in a way that would preserve their internal power structure, save their military leaders from war crimes trials, and avoid being a puppet state of the Allies. Until 9 August, they held out hope that the Soviets, as a neutral party, could help them negotiate the best deal with the US. During one meeting in June of that year, top Japanese military commander Torashirō Kawabe couldn’t have been clearer: “The absolute maintenance of peace in our relations with the Soviet Union is imperative for the continuation of the war.”

https://www.history.co.uk/shows/x-company/articles/why-did-japan-really-surrender-in-ww2

>>530203283
>>530205378
>As historian Terry Charman tells us, “The Soviet attack changed all that. The leadership in Tokyo realized they had no hope now.” In fact, the situation was now completely reversed, with the Japanese fearing a Communist invasion which would overturn their rigid, imperial hierarchy and transform their nation forever. Immediate surrender was the only option.

>>530205356
No, both combined is what is the outcome.
#1 is just the start of final negotiations.
#2 is what's required for Iran to stop striking Israel.

>>530190573
Pls Pls Pls glass all of the middle east

>>530204831
Honestly, bring it on. I welcome nuclear war at this point.

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>>530201358
>they surrendered because they didn't want to be raped and have their culture wiped out by Soviet occupation.
I understand your point, but that is not what would have happened and not the meaning of the statement.
Japan and USA have been in trade for over 200+ years, since Perry arrived.
Japan would have in no way been occupied by commies because we would have blown them the fuck up forever even to the point of death.
Japan wanted to surrender because of American diplomat promises of peace and a return to trade, as well as Japan keeping pretty much everything to return to borders.

The entire point of WW2 for Japan was to take over east asia. When that stop to be possible because of America, why not surrender and return? The Emperor wasn't executed. Japan became rich.

>>530205378
>mounting a massive invasion of Japan’s territories that decimated Japanese troops.
Thank you chappy. By "territories" you mean Machuria that was already being left as troops withdraw and reinforce in preparation for America.
I think it's hilarious that even after all the history of Japan being the shit out of communists as well as all of east asia combined, you still somehow have this narrative that the commies would have been successful in this campaign.

This is just like modern day.
I'm sure Russia and China are so strong! They will win against ukraine any day now. They will step in and stop Iran attack any day now. These nations are jokes on world stage.

I'd give the OP a (You) but he's been reading too many Tom Clancy novels. The Yanks will stop attacking, claim victory and walk away. Much like Iraq they'll leave a regime of splintered factions and Kurds to fight over the scraps for the next decade. Funny, I could have swore Trump said these types of attacks were foolish and he'd put a stop to this kind of adventurism. Israeli nonce tape or Russian water sports grumble flick, Donald is easily swayed.

>>530206358
>The Yanks will stop attacking, claim victory and walk away
Unlike last year, Iran will keep striking Israel, and won't negotiate with bad-faith retards anymore. US can't walk away.
At most, Iran will invite Kushner & Whitkoff to Iraq for talks, and then drone-strike them.

i just can't imagine trump announcing that he's leaving already lol

>>530190785
>trump the out he needs
Imprisonment?

>>530206358
>The Yanks will stop attacking, claim victory and walk away. Much like Iraq they'll leave a regime of splintered factions and Kurds to fight over the scraps for the next decade.

They'd like to do this but they can't.

Iran can't be easily destroyed with bombing.
They'll leave behind a government that's pissed off, determined to get nuclear weapons, unwilling to talk to America, and still in control of the Hormuz.

By next month Trump would probably love to walk away. But he's trapped himself. The course of the war is no longer in America's hands.

Nukes aren’t real

>>530190779
>Trust me
No lmao

>>530207039
I hope he'll beg for negotiations and send Kushner to get drone-striked.

>>530191940
>Nukes are fake and gay

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>>530190632
If you want to nuke Cincinnati, Columbus, or Cleveland that would be great. I'll even settle for Dayton.

>>530190573
They’ll probably claim it wasn’t a nuke if he does. Drumpf using nukes would turn just about everyone against him.

>>530190573
But trump already won? Said so himself. Is he nuking the people he's helping?,

I don't think one nuke would do it. The US needs to take out the entire military organization and then do a ground invasion to mop things up.

I would take a bet that this is going to end with nukes thoughbeit

>>530209352
Saudis could also get nukes from Pakistan if they get really annoyed and then threaten Iran with it