Trump's speech is over. The Strait of Hormuz is still closed. Here we watch for it to open.Strait can be seen here: https://www.marinetraffic.com
>>530337622Just nuke it
>>530337622We are closely monitoring and assessing the situation
It's going to stay closed. What's not being discussed is Trump's recent courting of big green energy CEOs. The plan was always to create an oil crisis to remove gas powered cars from the market all at once. End private transport, end mass electrification.
>>530337622cant they send decoy ships with gps spoofing to bait iran swarms and ambush the swarms with escorts?
>closed>full of ships
>>530337851like do some naval warfaring there they IR are waiting for ambush and usa KNOWS they are waiting for a target there
>>530337851AIS is a completely opt in system, if they want to turn it off they can, its common for fishermen to turn them off when they go out fishing for privacy. Every AIS device has a toggle built into it for this reasonIran is not tracking these with GPS they are going off line of sight or radar signatures of the boats. Its really not hard to hit these tankers with shaheds and RC suicide boats.
>>530338330Also... why didnt anyone try this in the red sea...? Shills are desperate because the pool is closed. Anyways, Insurance companies basically said if you sail though the strait, you are not getting Insurance ever again lol im not even joking, they DO NOT want to pay out a oil tanker sinking.
>The Strait of Hormuz is still closed.No it isn't and this isn't working reddit. Go away.
>>530338593Source?
>>530337622why dont they just make a mad dash for it?
>>530339042Because at least one ship is going to get hit. Nobody wants to risk their life or job. And insurance company don't want to cover them.
Two words: Ship Slider
>>530337835>remove gas powered cars from the market all at oncethis would be devastating, but blacks and mexicans would be the most restricted since they dont own electric cars
>>530339318And mad dashes aren't a viable strategy in the long run, either.
What if we dug some kind of undersea tunnel for them to sail through?
>>530337897>full of ships>full of waiting shipsand not all ships are banned like china can go as they wish
Trump said the strait is open. It sounds like he's delusional.0:45https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mLzyFMmkdM
>>530341073Honestly he needs to do is not only get the oil from Venezuela, but start drilling for it as well in the US along with re-opening the pipelines Biden closed down.
>>530337622The opening implies us and Israel embassy are shut and expelled. That was the requirement. Guess arabs had enough.
kek muricans are begging for mercyIran have now only crazier leader than before, they will keep attacking gulf states and Israel as they feel they have upper and that trump is a Coward
>>530337622Still closed...Still closed.
>>530340702Iran said if they expell us and Israeli delegates and forces they will be allowed to enter. They can lie but they have to leave as well. That line is the countries agreeing. Dumb burger doesn't understand shit.
>>530338893They are turning off the transponders. Stop getting your news from reddit.
>>530341462Source?
What stops Iran from a false opening only to strike every ship in range? It would crash the western world as we know it.
>>530338330Insurance doesn't care about opt ins. Youd be a retard risking a multi million dollar ship you eat the cost on. Nobody does that you dumbass.
>>530338893The oil price?
>>530341462Yeah I'm sure everybody is risking that in a conga line You retard.
>>530337851Iran does need to drone/bom every ship, they just need to hit one in few days, you gamble with life everytime you cross it. good luck dealing with that
>>530341669Insurance won't cover it the retards in here have no idea what they are talking about. It Still will not cover.
People are claiming transponders are being turned off and they're crossing anyway. True or false?
>>530341576It's your Patriotic duty to your country AND The Chosen People™ to run the gauntlet and take a small risk
>>530337622Is it always a lot of indian names on the ships here?
>>530341567Drones already can reach Saudi arabia. They could do it already
>>530341803False. So false it's painful to read by people who are shills and do not understand shipping risks.
>>530337622Also why is all the data hours old?
Iran tzofar away
>>530341803True, daily summary of the Hormuz map confirms it, but it's far from everyone so there's still clogging.
>>530340702>china can go as they wishNo they can't and no theyre not. You think these chinese ships are rolling without insurance? Would be dumb to risk being sank indiscriminately, or by "accident."
>>530341803It's not that easy, anon, the Iranian's arent watching MarineTraffic.com lol
Why not just tanker truck it over land to the Suez canal? Build a pipe line...
>>530337835You'd like that, wouldn't you nigger-kun.
>>530341580>G7 releasing strategic reserves>France says they will send ships to open the strait(lol) >trump panic posting saying the war is basically sort of pretty much for sure almost over. Also panic posts about how Iran needs to open the straight now!!Pool is still closed
>>530341803True, you can see ships jump from one side of the strait to the other side every so often - once they get past Iranian jamming
>>530341803Some outlets are reporting that the tankers that crosser were chinese owned or had china as their primary destination, but nothing that's credible enough to stand behind imho
>>530341803Chinese, Iranian, and Pakistan ships are allowed through. everyone else gets a drone to their face
That Strait is staying closed for a year.
>>530337622https://www.vesselfinder.com/Seems betterLooks like old data is going east (hrs ago?) and new data going west.
Nothingburger general
>>530342001>>G7 releasing strategic reservesthey held off on that for now, seemingly buying Trump's bullshit
>>530341580Oil price came down because of what Trump said, not because of any new information about ships.
>>530342130Yeah, I think so. The strait didn't open right after Trump's speech, so it's not going to open.
>>530337622Iran should put a big golden chain across the strait and only lower it once the tanker captain denounces the Talmud
>>530341959Yeah I'm sure it's hard since they send camera drones daily across the entire region. Yep totally. You are a Master of stealth.
>>530341960Probably a lack of trucking infrastructure, however if we filled up a bunch camel humps with oil and sent them across...
>>530341960Or just pipelines>hint they already exist
>>530342146It came down because the US and Europe are releasing their emergency stores. That is it.
>>530337622Much betterhttps://www.shipxplorer.com/@25.77500,55.63530,z8
>>530342001>g7 blablahttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c79542n0grwoSo that's false, no such release.>France blablaSent to keep it open, not to go into battle with Iran, so false again>Trump blablaTrump confirms Irans military capacity is basically gone, except for guerrilla style war. He even confirms in his post that it's not closed, rather tells Iran NOT to close it. You can't close something if it's already closed, retard.
>>530337835If it stays closed after 3 weeks it will cause global economic chaos on the scale of the great depression
>>530339318>And insurance company don't want to cover them.Ding, ding, ding you have the control mechanism while they get busy betting against companies to make even more money.
>>530337622Honestly, anyone who crosses has a death wish unless you're literally Chinese. We already saw this with the Houthi shit. Even if you make it out, you still have like a 10% chance of being the next drone kino.
>>530342424>drone kino*jams your signal*Now what?
>>530342411You will never be paid Enough to cover a $10 million dollar ship sinking. Ever. Insurance isn't a free check. It covers damage that would sink you. You make $0 of profit during the repairs and while sitting on your ass waiting.
>>530342307>It came down because the US and Europe are releasing their emergency stores. That is it.That process is not immediate, there's a multi-week delay in getting it into the system
>>530337622'm monitoring the situation
When's the last time a ship has been fired on in the strait? 5 days?>nothingburger >t.frank
>>530341462the great tanker of super gulf oil just passed by my house! another successful crossing of the straight!
>>530342307It dropped from $95 to $85 at 2 PM: That's when Trump announced the news conference.
>>530342515Yes it is. That's why it's an emergency stash you retard. You wouldn't call it that just like an emergency generator is immediate.
>>530342510Makes for a really easy control mechanism.While you make money elsewhere all you have to do is terrorise people into believing something MIGHT happen.
>>530342609Yes because the drop had nothing to do with conference nobody knows anything about.
>>530342307Not even true, there's no such agreement and even if that's the case it wont affect world wide markets in less than 1-2 months.It's down because Iran can't close it. You will see statements tomorrow where Iranians will claim they never planned on closing it but totally could if they wanted to, lol.
>>530341803True but it's one per day
>>530338330Of course they are going to turn it off. > hurr! hey iran! look at me!Iran has no eyes OVER the straight right now.
>>530342290Those pipelines were already being used at about 50% capacity, so the relief is about 10% of the total locked up by the strait closure
>>530342666Investors were jonesing for some copium, then they heard their man was coming with a fresh batch. That's all it took to put the light back in their eyes. But that copium is going to wear off by tomorrow when the Strait is still closed.
>>530342110By week 3 there will be global economic chaosI hope you go out and buy months worth of food and water, you will be most affected in Asia
>>530342737Correct, Iranians are literally relying on reddit and X posts to see what's going on.
>>530342515Well yes, the conversation was about market graphs which is just speculation upon speculation. Them announcing they will do it is the cause, line go down is the effect. It remains to be seen where line goes after that, considering pool is physically still closed and that is not speculation.
They're turning back around
>>530342617No, it isn't. It's a big cave system that gets flooded with salt water to displace the oil and push it into the US oil infrastructure. Before they do that they have to auction the oil off to industry. Once they auction it off, oil can only come out of the system at a rate of about 1m barrels per day because that's how much slack there typically is in the pipeline network.
>>530342779I suspect we might see many more built soon as many were built in response to previous closures of the strait by Iran.
>>530342692>and even if that's the case it wont affect world wide markets in less than 1-2 months.>>It's down because Iran can't close it. You will see statements tomorrow where Iranians will claim they never planned on closing it but totally could if they wanted to, lol.By week 3 you will see massive economic problems
>>530341804STRAIT CLOSED DUE TO AIDS
>>530342938Even the ships learned the art of TACO
>>530343046>2 more weeks until they close italright
>>530342832Yeah I'm sure.
>>530342938those are the ones that went through and turned on their transponders
>>530343377It's been closed
>>530337835>>530337851>>530337897I am a shot head with 0 dollars. Why don't I just start a company and insure 100 ships for 5% of the value of their cargo to make it to port. If 5 ships sink. I use the money from the other 95 to cover the damage.All of a sudden I'm in the insurance bussiness
>>530343424Wrong. This is easily checked by looking at transponder history.
>>530341462Where are you getting your news from Miggoy?
New talking point.The strait better be fucking open.
>>530343615You are arguing with stupid shills they do not comprehend what is going on.
>>530343761It won't. Iran has no reason to open it.
>>530343847The idea they expel all us assets and cut investment is being floated. Will it happen? Don't know a week ago maybe not but the middle east is not happy with the 2 troublemakers. Some on brink of collapse. It's. May actually win diplomatically. Well to the middle east they will still bomb Israel like they are doing right now as of an hour ago.
>>530343594It's funny you for some reason think of only. 5 sink with the entire middle east on fire. 4 fields in Saudi are burning. Multiple in Israel and qatar and Bahrain. Clearly you should risk all ships for no profit and massive failure. Yep.
>>530343424The cope is unreal
>>530342609Hope it drops more. We do not need a Mad Max scenario.
>>530337622why large amount of boat entering straight if it closed?
>>530337622>trump says the strait is open>ships set sail>several are sunk>the wrecks render the strait permanently unusable>class action lawsuit against the US government for trillions of dollars>...>profit
It is so weird that people seriously believe a third world country is beating two firsts in a war and they will argue with you that the third is winning.
>>530344246You should go get a ship and go make mad profit there since Trump says it's open. The rest are foolish
>>530343761He's such an idiot. He has no further leverage. He went all in like a complete beginner. Boots or nukes. That's all he has left.
>>530344195>21km wide shipping lane "rendered unusable" by a couple shipwrecksEurocuck schools ain't what they used to be
>>530344246No one thinks iran is winning anything, they've just introduced enough risk in the strait to cause insurance companies to suspend coverage
>>530344111North America is the most insulated from this crisis, the worst that will happen is high gas/fuel prices that will raise the cost of livingMost of the rest of the world is looking at shortages of core goods and services
>>530337622
>>530341632check oil prices retard, strait is open or else oil wouldn't be dropping
>>530344473>check oil prices retard, strait is open or else oil wouldn't be droppingThe strait is not open, the market is betting on it reopening due to a US concession soon
>>530343594anon, I'm no Lloyd's of London accountant by any means but I think ships are a bit more expensive than just their cargo, and you have to also pay for the casualties and their civil suits
>>530344438Then the US should start drilling and open/re-open pipelines. No one can afford high fuel prices and I said, the US can't get into a Mad Max scenario over this.
>>530344246Fuck, you're a retard. Closing the strait was chosen precisely because iran knew it had no chance through conventional means. It can be maintained with minimal resources, it can't be stopped, and it strikes at the heart of the american empire.
>>530344574>US concessionWhat kind of concession?And, is it something acceptable for the Iranians?
>>530344574cope idiot, market realized ships are getting through by turning transponders off.
>>530344442qatar looks like a little chubby down there
>>530344582For anyone who may care, I was wrong. Very wrong. This is gemini:A standard VLCC carries approximately 2 million barrels of crude oil.Oil Price: Brent crude has surged past $100/barrel due to the disruption in the Strait.Total Cargo Value: 2,000,000 barrels × $100 = $200 Million.Note: If the tanker is carrying refined products like jet fuel or diesel, this value can be significantly higher.Lloyd's is quoting 1.5% to 3% of the full value plus a war risk, do they're already doing what anon said he would do, except I guess people don't want to risk their lives
>>530344683They are not, traffic is down 95%
>>530341580The oil price is set by a market high on copium
>>530344673I don't imagine Iran giving up without total sanctions relief at this point
>>530344828Then the cargo is more expensive than the ship. I didn't know that either. Lmao.
>>530344887kek this shitskin is fucking desperate to keep up the narrative even though oils dumping. Transponders are off traffic is not being recorded, ships are going through
>>530345025Those ships are still tracked by maritime news, if there were dozens of ships crossing it would be reported by maritime agencies
>>530344683ships can try but it is a gamble unless they are China, Russia, or Pakistanit is not technically "closed"
>>530345206If oil is free flowing to china then the entire strait closing is a nonfactor
Where did you all get the idea that oil is dumping? I only see wti crude and brent crude falling.
Multiple ships showing up that turned transponders off at Sohar port, then back on when they turned around
>>530345496And only 10%. Probably a gamble on trump's words.
>>530345723you dumb dude, you are look at percent change from yesterday after it was up 20% this morning so it more like 30% drop. And WTI and bent are the bench mark others are delayed
>>530345720Why?1. They get a call letting them know they are being observed, get spooked and turn around?2. Similar to above but a drone warning shot lands nearby?3. Glownigs doing a funny to manufacture the story of ships passing by with transponders off?
>>530342488Checked, but I don't think you understand how easy it is to put a camera on the end of a telescope. A tanker on fire would also be easy visible and easily interpretable via satellite footage.
>>530344405That's a win retard
>>530346200They were wondering if america would do something. It didn't.
>>530345861it spiked to 120 overnight and then today the US spent all day running stories and bullshit PR how the war is over which assured the niggercattle so it crashed. once retards finally piece the together that its actually closed tomorrow its gonna start pumping again.
>>530337622Yeah it is "closed", people are just sneaking pass it by turning off their trackers. Oh no, pool's closed, niggers! Yes, fucking retards. If Iran have any power to closed or even attempt to close the pool, China will stop sending them drones.
>>530346200I'm not sure. Finding multiple incidents though. I wonder if there's any advantage to spoofing your location as Sohar port?
>>530337851>decoy ships with gps spoofingYou realize there are still multiple Iranian tankers right there near Bandar Abbas, right?Ever heard of binoculars?
>>530346624>Yeah it is "closed", people are just sneaking pass it by turning off their trackers.This is not correct, the traffic is still down >95%There are tons of tankers anchored off your short in Singapore because they're lining up for shipping fuel because they anticipate a massive shortage
friendly reminder that Iran is watching the strait.
>>530346624>people are just sneaking pass it by turning off their trackersHow many? I'm willing to bet it's not a high number. At the end of the day, it makes little difference if a few ships sneak passed the strait. the vast majority aren't going to risk it. So yes, the strait is closed.
>>530345861>>530346521I'm still trying to understand this. The saudis are selling their arab light for $109 right now, even though they usually sell it for about the same price as american WTI crude, which is currently selling for $87?The saudis only announce prices once a day, but something still seems odd here. As I write this, WTI has risen to $88. Let's see what happens overnight.
>>530342307Correct.Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/08/crude-oil-prices-today-iran-war.html
>>530347430That makes sense, since the difference to murban crude from abu dhabi, which has a similar delay time like WTI and brent, is unusual. Something is manipulating brent and WTI prices downwards. I had no idea how complicated the oil market is.
>>530347801>Something is manipulating brent and WTI prices downwardsyeah that would be the release of strategic reserves into the market. They were talking about up to 300M barrels.Another 'habbening' with Oil is that SA said it wants to export more through ports on the west. Already seeing some tankers pathing that wayHouthi's could put a stop to that if it goes too far though.
>>530347116There's a theory that the US treasury shorted the WTI futures market and plan to deliver the oil they shorted to the futures market per the contracts they sold.
>>530347430The US is not releasing its stores yet, that takes a while.Europe does not have large reserves of oil, they have reserves of diesel and natural gas which they haven't drawn down.Only Japan has said they are starting the draw down, which is actually a more significant supply online than US and EU combined theoretically.
>>530347991>We will continue to closely monitor the situation and developments in the energy markets and will meet as needed to exchange information and to coordinate within the G7 and with international partners. We stand ready to take necessary measures, including to support global supply of energy such as stockpile release.>https://www.elysee.fr/en/G7evian/2026/03/09/g7-finance-ministers-communiqueThe announcement of the release of strategic reserves was probably enough to give the market some direction. But that will quickly evaporate if they don't deliver now, in one way or another.
>>530348133>But that will quickly evaporate if they don't deliver now, in one way or another.Yeah it's going to evaporate overnight once traders realize that the actual 'release' of that oil will take at least a week or 2 before the valves are opened.
>>530348133>The announcement of the release of strategic reserves was probably enough to give the market some direction. But that will quickly evaporate if they don't deliver now, in one way or another.The theoretical amount of oil that can be dumped on the market per day from stategic reserves globally is about 5 million barrels of oil, the supply gap is about 17 million barrelsThat means there's about a 12 million barrel deficit
>>530347991>HouthiI haven't heard from those guys in ages. It's about time they started pulling off their cool stunts again. It would be the perfect time; everyone who could keep an eye on them is busy elsewhere.
>>530347991>Another 'habbening' with Oil is that SA said it wants to export more through ports on the west. Already seeing some tankers pathing that wayThey haven't been doing that until now?That means the supply gap is 20 million barrels higher than I thought.
>>530348430https://english.alarabiya.net/News/saudi-arabia/2026/03/06/saudi-arabia-diverts-millions-of-oil-barrels-to-red-sea-to-ensure-global-suppliesI can't really find it, but I think they said something today about focusing on increasing capacity etc. at Yanbu
>>530348118Here's our first fool. And a leaf at that.What you're saying, doesn't change the fact on why prices came down. The fact of the matter stands.It has been priced in already, as we saw with the price action today and the news. No one waits until shit happens to trade. You buy the rumor, sell the news.>inb4 timing of selloff vs announcement/newdThere's so much market manipulation today, that you HAVE TO expect shady trades to occur BEFORE outlets begin to tell us average joes.You see it all the time on the infamous SPY and even on ENE.If you knew anything about trading or how certain markets operate, you would've saved yourself a few posts (a lot actually).
>>530348235>That means there's about a 12 million barrel deficitAnd various militaries are consuming rather more than usual
>>530348215capping your post, nigger
>>530348637>You buy the rumor, sell the news.Indeed. And this 'rumor' was basically about pressing the big red emergency button.Can't really do that more than once.
usa should have looked at a map at the end of WW2 and realized they should own the hormuz and the suez and then they would have controlled the world forever
>>530348656Brent it at 94.50 btw.Up 6% in the past 90 minutes or so
>>530348725You're correct. Now is the time to long.It'll be like gold all over again, but much quicker and volatile.March madness.
>>530348564Yeah so they haven't even increased it to full capacity yet.They can increase it 7 million barrels if they repurpose the natural gas pipelines for oil but LNG is more disrupted than oil, so 5 million barrels is the max. They can free about 2.5m barrels of oil per day of the 19.5m barrels that are not Iranian and are trapped there.So we are up to around a 195 million barrel deficit in global oil supply with a potential for the rate of change to go down to 17m barrels per day
>>530348637There is a structural deficit of global oil supply, shorting is not going to change that until the strait is reopened
>>530342737the hurr part is thinking AIS is required for radar to work and detect vessels, you think military cant see ships unless they turn on AIS?for a retard like you, probably
>>530342515>That process is not immediate, there's a multi-week delay in getting it into the system>thinks the price is set by the actual quantity and not by speculation. interesting
>>530348763And you think the soviet union would have just allowed that? Besides, the US was busy bringing europe under its control and imposing the USD on the world. This secures their revenue to this day and, with their sanctions regime, gave them almost absolute power. Every empire eventually comes to an end, for one reason or another.
>>530348994>LNG is more disrupted than oilYeah. LNG really isn't talked about enough atm.Europe is completely f*cked when it comes to LNG, because they used to pipe in gas from Russia so they don't really have a large storage capacity.
>>530349040I tripled my money betting on uranium stocks by identifying the same structural supply and demand imbalance and ignored every attempt at shorting and fud
>>530342384They don’t care
>>530337622>hogkek, I like it... also, anytime I look at this, I just think of anatomy animations of a full rectum needing to shit
>>530337622idk nonnys, looks like a fuck ton of ships to me so there's no way it closed
>>530341960Houthis effectively control the red sea. Trump and Biden both cucked out realizing there wasn't much they could do.
And WTI is knocking on the door of $90 again.
>>530349232For giant tanker ships, there's only about a 2km wide "canal" type geological feature that's deep enough for ships to travel though, typically they only go one at a time in both directions.
>>530349259Once they realize this isn't just going away after a press conference, it's going to go back up and the markets back down. Today was a fart rally off of his orange nigger bloviating nonsense. Just absolutely Jew'd.
>>530349237Things would get very interesting if Houthis announce they'd join in the fight.
>>530349216The Iran war general is called /pig/Also, it looks like the straight line from earlier is breaking up. Are we not going to make it after all?
>>530341462American pilots did this here and accidentally took down a plane full of passengers. Then they got away scot free
>>530349516Unfortunately there weren't enough brave men on board those tankers.
>>530349232Which website are you using? I dont see these ships on marinetraffic.com.
>>530349361i'm very interested in what they intend to do. they are censoring information and unless you look for it on X or some shit, you'd never know the US is basically kicked out of the middle east and losing badly. Iran is not backing down, keeps sending (unopposed) missiles to Israel, and is largely in control despite what Trump says.it is nothing short of a strategic defeat for the US but naturally they don't want to admit it. Iran wants nothing less than the US leaving the Middle East
>>530349516kek, nice... not sure anon, I don't think anyone knows... my gut tells me this is the 1914 powder-keg that got lit off and there's no unexploding, especially if Iran tells Israel to fuck off and fight back
>>530342260Hmmmm
WTI 91$
>>530339042Okay suppose they do and iran blows up 3 out of 50 ships on day 1 wooo hooray they made it! Iran is powerless they couldn't stop all 50 shipson day 2 they do another run, 47 ships make a break for it, 2 sinkon day 3 they get 4 moreby day 15 there's only 28 of 50 tankers remaining, it will take 2-3 years for shipbuilders to replace the losses with new ships, maybe longer, and everyone who tried to run the gauntlet lost a shitload of money and maybe died, the guys who MADE IT didn't even make money, they simply lost less.It's not that they could rush it all at once, but they have to keep doing it, every single dayI'm kind of amazed I even have to explain this
>>530349619I used https://www.vesselfinder.com/
>>530341462Iran doesn't rely on ships broadcasting their transponders in order to hit the shipsI cannot believe how fucking gullible and retarded you are
>>530349706Brent up to $94 also
>>530349628A "limited" ground invasion to secure the strait is what they're going to do.
>>530339042they can't. the usable portion for these tankers in the strait is fairly small and narrow and they generally go through one at a time. it is not that big.
>>530342146Oil price came down because the stock market is blatantly rigged and manipulated. You can check how much oil is actually getting shipped - there has been no sudden increase. Trump is blowing hot air, the markets are being manipulated, and the pool is still closed.
>>530349900they can't do that without Iran raining missiles and drones on them. besides, our bases are inoperable and the USN is no where in the strait.
>>530341462Are you one of them stupid people?
>>530349900And what good will that do? Iran doesn't launch its missiles and drones from the coast.
If this is a 'mine' it's a pretty big one.
>>530349778looks equally "closed"
>>530337622why are oil prices suddenly skyrocketing again? wtf is going on
>>530348994sounds to me like some asian and european countries need to get their shit in gear and clear out that international waterway to make it safe for shipping or else they are fucked.y'know it's a real shame that somebody other than americans have to die for global energy security. oh shucky-darn but we are just too busy. i really wish we could put our sailors on the line to get them killed again on iranian sea mines securing the gulf but we are just too energy secure to have to help here.
>>530349999checked. Super mine confirmed.
>>530349994Move interceptors onto the land between the strait and the launchers.Stay there 'indefinitely' somehow.
>>530344473It's dropping due to strategic reserves being released, retard.
>>530349999there are no mines. they use missiles and drones
>>530350070>there are no mines. they use missiles and dronesthat's what they want you to believe
>>530349924its a temporary band aid but yes since no ships are moving within 24 -48 hours the price will skyrocket again. He wont be able to use this play again. It bought him at best 2 days as people hope hes telling the truth.
>>530350059The actuaries will give you the finger.
>>530350103Iran is allowing Chinese, Russian, and Pakistani tankers through. any others can try but they risk getting hit. the don't mine it because we already took out their Navy (which wasn't really a threat anyways)
>>530350070Iran's 'ult' would be to sail a oil tanker into the strait, blow a hole in it, and light that shit on fire. One big burning oil-spot in the middle of the strait. Massive environmental suicide when it comes to fishing in the region, but oh well.
>>530350070why dontcha tell that to the crew of the USS Samuel B Roberts.
>>530337835based
>>530350066They haven't been released yet, just the intention. Even then it would just delay the inevitable
>>530349232>>530349778The straits are these lanes at the deepest part of the crossing
>>530349999That's an Iranian flagged ship
>>530350169yes, and they could also hit the tankers just sitting there now but they don't. they could do a lot of bad shit but they don't want to be seen as the "terrorists" that the US are saying they are.
>>530350169I member how they used to threaten to mine everything. But I'm not even sure if they still have one of their patrol boats. But I suppose drones and rockets work too.
>>530350070There are mines, they haven't used them yetYou can choose to stop shooting drones and missiles at ships crossing the strait. If you MINE the strait, you cannot undo that. Not without very long and expensive anti-mining operations.The fact that iran isn't mining the strait indicates they are holding back their escalations instead of going all out. They also aren't bombing desalination plants across the gulf countries, nor are they doing permanent long-term damage to oil infrastructure. These are escalatory options they have for the future if they really want to lock everything down and fuck global trade. Those actions will cost them with their own allies, but they are still options available to them.
>>530350049China, UK and Europe should be sending their navies there because they are the most affected with the least contingency plans
>>530337622Holy shit! I heard this is a photo of what Trump is doing to cities along the Strait!
>>530350224Right, everything gets priced in ahead of time. Look for a giant green dildo when it actually happens.
>>530344391>yankee looks at troll logic and thinks 'i am smarter than this'
>>530350066They have discussed releasing them but they have not yet.
>>530350318>I'm not even sure if they still have one of their patrol boatsThere are at least 2 Iranian submarines that are unaccounted for. Lets see Trump start doing escorts through the strait.
>>530350034>shrekslowgrin.gif
>>530350356yup. that's my point exactly. india too.this blocking of the straits is forcing their hand. not the americans.it seems the iranians never updated their war plans from the 80s. great satan is a net oil exporter now. you can't break us by cutting off oil anymore.
>>530350344>nor are they doing permanent long-term damage to oil infrastructure.yeah as far as the oil infrastructure goes it really looks like Iran has only been doing 'taps'.In a 'hey you don't want to lose this, right?' kind of way.Compare that to how they've been treating US bases, where they've apparantly felt the need to dump missiles & drones onto empty barracks
>>530350034because the straight is closed and no oil is moving. It goes down on hope from empty promises and speculation. The price is going to be volatile until this conflict is over.
How can we open it back up? Trump needs our help opening the pool.
>>530350517>great satan is a net oil exporter nowbut they're still a net importer of manufactured goods, and most of them come from Asia
>>530350356And whose fault is that
>>530350597>How can we open it back up?1. Extradite Yoohoo and the orange retard to Teheran for public execution.2. Israel gives up its nukes
>>530350643oh no. not our shipments of rubber dogshit. whatever shall we do. truly that will be the end of america and this totally means we should be the ones to go in there and die for YOUR OIL to save YOUR ECONOMY.you have a navy. fix that shit yourself. that's what they are for.
>>530350572so now that investors have realized that trump's just bluffing, they wont fall for the same trick again?
>>530350682If the US bases do not resume operations, every jew will have emigrated from israel within months.
>>530350669Their own I suppose. Delusional thinking.Japan has an enormous strategic reserve larger than the US's
>>530350597One of:- Do a ground invasion to control the shores- Ask the Iranians very nicelyUltimately, China might pressure them to do it.
>>530350597Nuking Iran maybe. That may also simply start WW3 while also destroying all the oil infrastructure in the region.Besides that the US could perform a ground invasion. It would require a draft and probably 1-3 million soldiers and cost a few trillion dollars (at least). It would be plagued with supply issues. Wouldn't be much different than a few million russian conscripts thrown at german trenches.Probably the best long-term choice, but the most short-term painful, is to leave the middle east outright. Pull all the assets out, all the bases, all the people, leave israel and the gulf countries to fend for themselves. Relocate everything into the pacific theatre where it belongs.
>>530350795People are stupid
>>530350597Send barron. I don't know how this will help, but I'm sure it will.
>>530350795? Did any ship get droned today ?
>>530350597I suppose sending the navy and some marines to die to open the straits up is worth the economic damage it would prevent
>>530350778>Spend an entire year bitching about how you import too much and tariff everyone>No, I don't even need your 'dogshit' anyways!The eternal mutt.Also:>Court told you you couldn't so now you're seeing massive lawsuits
>>530350808>Japan has an enormous strategic reserve larger than the US'sMakes sense, they have basically no production capacity
>>530350517Being a net exporter doesn’t make the US immune. The issue is the Strait of Hormuz, which moves 20% of the world’s oil, mostly from Gulf Cooperation Council states. The global oil trade is still largely priced and settled in dollars, the petrodollar system, which helps sustain the United States dollar as the world’s reserve currency. If the US loses the ability to secure Gulf energy routes or maintain influence in that system it leads to losing the petro dollar and world reserve currencty status.That’s why the region matter, it’s not just about US oil imports.
>>530350816Kek. I wrote that the other day too. Nukes, boots, or israel to utah are the options.
>>530337622Dubai should build a canal. Charge 1 cent per gallon to pass through
>>530349033>Iran>military Just sandniggers with drones at this point
>>530350778If East Asia doesn't get energy and some other stuff like helium, it has a carry on effect to semiconductors which will cause problems for the whole AI buildout
>>530350795>they wont fall for the same trick again?they will. But the reaction won't be nearly as intense.Similar movement, far lower amplitude"Boy who cried wolf"-syndrome.
>>530337835>The plan was always to create an oil crisis to remove gas powered cars from the market all at onceAbsolutely insane comment. Fossil fuel companies donated hundreds of millions to trump to prevent exactly this happening. This is not planned, this is just a massive fuck up, because he allowed Israel to run US foreign policy. Trump passionately hates electric cars and renewable energy, largely because he's been paid handsomely to do so.
>>530350810>China might pressure themI don't think China can 'pressure' Iran right now. I think it can act as an intermediary, but they seem fully in their own headspace atm.
>>530350981it is mountains bub
>>530350988Then why are you so scared to invade? Drones are easy army guarding drones is not. Eternal cope.
>>530350988the USN isn't in the strait and Israel is still getting pummeled so they are doing a pretty damn good job this far into it
>americans killed my whole family>billions must die
>>530350981Hear me out:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYeKH6i3ESs
>>530351071That's because they were the ones attacked. Twice. Only a dumb nigger would try to force that which is why the US is floundering it's allys eyes.
>>530350517It's always amusing that you burgers don't understand how your empire works. Your entire economy is built on services for international trade.
>>530351158>He can't get laid guys hahahahaWhy is that?>We murdered his wife (killed his kids too)
>>530350162The drone carrier would have been a problem
>>530350517Southern Iranian ports are still open retard. They aren't in the strait or Gulf of Oman. It is always impressive how little shills know
>>530350597WE don't have to do a damn thing. WE just wait for some international coalition of countries dependent on oil imports to form convoys to escort the tankers out.this exact thing happened in 1987-1988 when iran tried to fight a tanker war like this and it worked.>>530350953i don't know if you read the news but we are already kinda busy fighting the GCC's regional rival who has been waging proxy wars on them for decades. shit, that's what the closure is all about. hurting the gulf state's oil trade.having a third party Operation Earnest Will (2026) that oil out of there is going to be the least bloody way of going about this.>>530351198see above.
>>530350517>you can't break us by cutting off oil anymoreno, but they can cause the rest of the world (China and Japan especially) to get pissed off at us since they get much of their oil from the MEit isn't all about the USA itself
>>530351265Bette step pace up you dumb nigger you don't have anti air to last that long.
>>530351296oh noes. the chinks are gonna be mad at us and have to sail their bullshit navy into harms way. i'm super broken up about that.
>>530351375>Current Iran space controlled:0%>Current Chinese tankers stopped or touched:0%Lmao
>>530351438>Current Iran space controlled:0%Linear warfare bros, what do?
>>530351519Start by getting 0.000001% then we can cope from there.
>>530351519we have to go multidimensional instead of 2Dchess will never be the same
>>530339042>tanker>mad dashAnon, I…
>>530351659turn on the second propeller
>>530341803Nigger they can see them using drones do you have a head injury
>“Well, I haven’t seen it,” Trump said. “And I will say that the Tomahawk, which is one of the most powerful weapons around… it’s sold and used by other countries, you know that. And whether it’s Iran, who also has some Tomahawks – they wish they had more. But whether it’s Iran or somebody else… the fact that a Tomahawk is very generic, it’s sold to other countries, but that’s being investigated right now.”Iran has now tomahawks. Its over.
can't we just like, go around it
>>530350403>look for a giant green dildo when the situation is so fkd we have to tap into reservesyour brain on ameribrainrotism
>>530337622America is Back! Theme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd5ZLJWQmss
>>530350049The US needs to start drilling again. The US found oil first back in the 1800s and still should be drilling for oil since the country is sitting on a shitload of oil.
>>530351733checked.Swim behind it & push.
>>530351756>Iran bombed its own schoolchildren with a Tomahawk missilepathetic.
>>530351519At this rate, the US will be in Tehran in one million years.
>>530351805>look for a giant green dildo when the situation is so fkdThat's called hedging, anon.For example: Silver seems to be going on another rally.
>>530337622Trump promised to step in to provide U.S. emergency marine insurance.This could be a manoeuvre to take over the coveted Marine Insurance Industry from London. That's a big move because Marine Insurance is basically the same thing as the British Deep State.
>>530350572The conflict needs to end fast before we enter a Mad Max scenario.
>>530351831we did that. the US is now a net oil exporter. has been for most of a decade. none of this gulf oil is for us. it's for "global markets".problem is that the rest of the world hasn't caught on yet and now expect us to fall on the grenade and force the straits while they, a neutral party, have every right to escort their oil through Omani waters and get it the hell out of there.if iran then wants to expand the fight by taking on neutrals just securing their much-needed energy, well, that's their problem. it's also pretty unlikely.
>>530337622Looks like they're turning back.
>>530352037What merchant marine is going to sail through a warzone. They can insure all they want, nobody's going through there unless they at least have an escort
>>530351970oh right, the big brain hedgooooring. dont 99% of hedge funds lose money? lmfao
>>530352168The US really doesn't have a choice and go back to drilling wile still exporting. That will help with lowering prices from the drilling.
>>530352168You do realize that this is a bad sign, right? Back then, you deliberately shut down oil wells in texas and started importing all your oil so you could use your own oil later. The fact that this later is now shows that you no longer have the purchasing power to conserve your own resources.
>>530351805price go up = greenprice go down = redCurrently traders are pricing in the increased supply from reserves being released, leading to lower prices, once it actually happens, the price will spring back up with exactly how much somewhat depending on exactly how much of the reserves they dump.
inb4 some kike make thread #2
>>530351265nothing you said refuted what I said. No shit we are in a war with Iran. One the US started in the eyes of everyone who isnt inundated and brainwashed by kike media. You are putting alot on Earnest Will working out when that is borderline delusional cope if you understood how things have changed since 1987-88.
>>530352037>Trump promised to step in to provide U.S. emergency marine insurance.They said they would but they still haven't released details about who would qualify as far as I know so private insurance industries are still trying to figure out their own solution
>>530352603Trump also said Iran bombed their own school with a Tomahawk right after that so dont be suprised that no one is taking him that seriously.
On the marine insurance thing, apparently they were close to restarting sailing but when the US blew up a ship off the coast of Sri Lanka that raised the global war risk insurance risk level, making the insurance pools insolvent again.
>>530345025>muh transpondersMiggers believe turning off that shit makes your ship invisible to missiles.
>>530352447Help me put together some relevant news and links for the next OP
>third worlders are clapping about this when they are going to be affected the most by it???
>>530352797ships are moving favela dweller
>>530352427repeating the same braindead statement wont make it true
>>530353059>the people who are third worlders in my head
>>530352390where the fuck did you hear that? we didn't shut down shit. our oil demand just grew larger than our production did postwar and we fell way behind.it took huge advances in fracking, deepwater, and oil shale to get our production back up to where it surpassed consumption. it was like a 50 year gigantic oil technology and development project.do you think we LIKED having the 1970s oil crises? do you think we LIKED fighting wars in the ME?"drill baby drill" was a political slogan here for decades so we could avoid all of that shit. and now we are there.>>530352463>if you understood how things have changed since 1987-88.uh. letsee. gulf states oil is stuck because iran is in a war and is threatening the tankers leaving the gulf with anti-ship missiles, speedboats with rockets, and mines in the straits. did i get that right?oh yeah, i see now. it's totally different and not EXACTLY THE SAME SITUATION.
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>>530352091Mad Max is mostly about retards driving aimlessly around the desert shooting guns into the air.Clearly the Mad Max scenario is not that bad, economically speaking.
>>530342384We don’t care
