>US military can't deal with drones>US military can't protect its military installations>US military can't protect its Gulf State vassals (and is also in the process of abandoning its EU allies)>US military fights by bombing schoolgirls>US President is very unpopular at home>US cucks immediately under pressurevs.>Iran can crank out far more drones than the US can obtain interceptors>Iran can blackmail the entire planet by closing the Hormuz Strait>Iran's population is cohesive in the face of an external threat>Iran can absorb the killings of its leaders without collapsing>Iran can dominate the whole region militarily
A good summary of all the migger and shitskin propaganda posted.
>>530360203The strait was already reopened. Oil prices dropped back down. The US won because we bless Israel, and those who bless Israel will be blessed.Iran lost its Supreme Leader, its Navy, and its Air Force because it curses Israel and is therefore being cursed.
>>530360203Trump has already won the war 10 times over, you sound like a seething tranny
The drones part is fascinating. So apparently Ukraine are the experts on these things and no one else can stop them? The trillion dollar military doesn’t have anti-drone defenses that are capable?
>>530360554Modern militaries were not designed to defend against zerg spam,
Also the US leadership is senile/retarded
>>530360203grok is this true?
The long term fallout of this is going to be very interesting.The gulf states will not quickly forget how flaccid their "defense guarantees" turned out to be. Will be watching how many US bases and embassies are actually rebuilt once this is over. I think we might have seen the peak of central command.
>>530361223Not only is it fake, but it is arguably as gay as OP.
>>530360203Thats what the evidence suggests
>>530360203>Iran can go to the moon>Iran can conquer the planet>Iran can defeat the martians>Iran can rule the universe militarily
>>530360282Third worldist propaganda isn't shitskin made?
the chink said this 2 years ago btw
>>530360322I bet you want to live under that banana hammock.
>>530360203/pol/ needed some clown to make a thread, thank you for your doings.
>>530360203The reason why all this is happening is because Trump is much more popular at home than liberal media are willing to admit and nobody feels confident enough to stand up and call him out.If I'm wrong, Republicans will be trashed in the midterms. Simple as.
>>530361656All polls show the Iran War is highly unpopular. The reason Americans aren't doing anything about it is because they just don't care. They have fluoride stare and have mostly checked out of politics.
>>530360203So basically, he replaced 87 yrs old Khamenei who is against nuclear weapons and almost dead, with a Khamenei whose entire family was killed. Bombed a few hundred girls, made Tehran an ecological disaster, turned moderate Iranians against anything pro-US, guaranteed that hardliners will shoot protesters and anyone with a hint of anti-regime sentiment, shocked the world economically with months of wealth gone from Gulf countries and delayed cutting interest rates so that US debt is worth less, due to the inflationary shock supply chain chaos. The art of the shit.
>>530360292Oil prices dropped because of the G7 countries releasing their reserves, kike.
>>530360203MAGA shills are working overtime to win over the narrative that trump is a 5d chess genius and won this war
>>530360322
>>530360203They are just out of practice. They will get significantly better the longer the war keeps going. Just as Russia, they sucked badly in the first two weeks of their humanitarian intervention in The Ukraine.
>>530360292>>530361426>>530361512So is the war over or has the US only begun to fight?
>#WinningHaha. Cope and seething. Have an L. Do some more crying while I laugh at you
>>530360554Ukraine doesn't use Shahed drones. Shaheds are fucking our shit up. You can take them out with helicopter autocannons but you need air superiority for that which Ukraine doesn't have which is why Shaheds are also destroying them too.
This is brill. Blowing up Iran should happen every day. Oh wait. It is! >Boohoo I’m #Winning
>>530362273>Just as Russia, they sucked badly in the first two weeks of their humanitarian intervention in The Ukraine.nigga its been YEARS
>>530360292Strait of hormuz back open! O thank god.
>>530360203I have been saying for years now that the era of cheap easy to mass manufacture drone warfare has drastically reduced the US’s ability to wage war. Idk how the fuck the retards at the pentagon don’t understand that. I have watched thousands of drone kinos. What are the retards in the military doing how are they this ill informed about reality? It’s been broadcasted for 4 years now. Day after day it’s like 50 new drone kinos just endless death. How did they miss this? How can a neet possibly have seen this coming but the leaders of our military didn’t? When it goes boots on the ground its not going to suddenly get better. There are hundreds of interviews with people they have fought in Ukraine explaining the horrors of this kind of fighting. The US is not ready to contend with this threat. NATO recently did some mock training and they invited a few Ukie drone teams the drone teams decisively beat everyone. In either December or a couples months before I don’t remember there was a single Ukie drone team of 10 guys that flew 25k combat missions now that isn’t 25k casualties some of those missions were for spotting down for resupplying their guys and of course some of those drones were intercepted but they killed thousands of ziggers. I can not stress this enough cheap easy to mass manufacture drones are a major game changer and for some reason our retards don’t get this.
>>530360203All he has to do is to destroy Iran as a functioning country, the plan is to make greater Israel not to maintain US hegemony or whatever, all these things he is doing make perfect sense if you look at it through that lense. It literally matters fuck all what happens domestically in the US and its actually better for Israel in the long term if the gulf allies dump the US, every gulf states population dislikes the monarchies and their only choice is to ally fully with Israel in the future or be deposed or even killed, for greater Israel to become a true regional power they need America out of the middle east at some point
Russian technology is being deployed in Iran.
>>530362504Its fucking hilarious.>the US is at least 60 years ahead of everyone else>they have magical technology that nobody else has!>gets humiliated by sandnigger rockets and model airplanes
>>530362504They obviously do get it but the US military industrial complex is not there to make an efficient and well oiled fighting machine, they are there to extract as much money from the federal government as possible, US industrial base was offshored to China so it doesn't make financial sense to mass produce cheap drones just like it doesn't make financial sense to mass produce any cheap consumer product in the United States
>>530362504The get this but building cheap drones doesn't make them as much money as building one rocket for millions of dollars.
>>530360203>Iran can crank out far more drones than the US can obtain interceptors850, 680, 530, 480, 350, 220, 130, 110, and 60. That is drones launched each day by Iran for the last ten days. Now I know I am giving you FAR more credit than you deserve, but I’m going to say that even you can tell what’s happening with those numbers. Sucks doesn’t it anon? You can lie all you want, but numbers always shine the light on your faggot propaganda. >Iran can blackmail the entire planet by closing the Hormuz StraitThe strait that was reopened??? How’s that working out for ya fella?>Iran's population is cohesive in the face of an external threatActually the people hate their leaders and the IRGC, it’ why they celebrate the attacks. It’s why the IRGC killed tens of thousands of their civilians when they protested Khamenei. Why they’ve been pleading for help. You absolute retard, there are countless videos on this if you actually gave a damn. And not AI ones like you clearly have been watching.>Iran can absorb the killings of its leaders without collapsingThey already collapsed, they can’t protect their holy leader. They can’t protect their airforce, navy, missile launchers, or military commanders. They are having to find unlucky leader number four as we speak.>Iran can dominate the whole region militarilykek! Their asshole is the only thing being dominated. Get fucked anon, you lost, yet again.
>>530360203you forgot>regime, missiles, and factories are all in reinforced bunkers under mountains.so they can't destroy them.
>>530362634We need to stop this imperialism bullshit it’s over we can’t do it anymore we need to play nice and accept a multipolar world that is reality we need to focus on improving our countries and for defense stop this wunderwaffe approach we need mass cheap production as a deterrent. We need to not wage these wars it’s too costly. These people are psychopaths more fucked in the head then I am and I watch this shit every day.
>>530362875Cope
>>530362937Remember wars of the past?Ever play a RTS game?Whoever buils up the largest scale production of cheap units, and swarms, wins.The american military has been nothing but a scam to inflate jew pockets even more for decades, and it's backfiring on them now.America fucked up by giving away its production capabilities.You can make fun of china all you want, but if shit its the fan, they'll be the ones laughing.>factory of the world>infinite resources>infinite peopleThey could literally blot out the sun if they chose to.
>>530362875>you can tell what’s happening with those numbers.Now give me the number of patriot, thaad and other air defense missiles the USA and Israel launched in those days. Tell me what happened with those numbers.
>>530360203Iran is a shithole anon. It's much harder to be an empire than to be a desert dwelling nomad that can run around in mountains like the Taliban did.
>>530362414>Ukraine doesn't use Shahed dronesUkraine doesn't use them, but it's become very good at shooting them down.
Don't forget Iran bombed a mutt base in Turkey, why didn't trump activate article 5?Nato bros I thought that's why you exist
>>530362686>>530362787I can’t say I disagree it’s all about money but chasing the money isn’t gonna win anything it’s just going get a shit ton of people killed for marginal gains in years long drawn out conflicts of meat grinders. >>530363194China has all the production they will win. Maybe we should turn war into a vidya game so we don’t have the massive cost to human life. Or they should move tk a system where world leaders duel each other with pistols at 10 paces. Who ever wins the duke wins the war send the cock suckers that want to play this power game to play it themselves.
>>530363194>Whoever buils up the largest scale production of cheap units, and swarms, wins.Incorrect, America was defeated by people wearing pajamas in Vietnam and Afganistan even though they produced nothing, war is a contest of will, whoever lacks the will to kill/die for their objectives will lose no matter how much production they have>They could literally blot out the sun if they chose to.But they will not choose to because there is no will to do any of that, China will remain an isolationist power
>>530360203Obama would have done it better... and that fact enrages miggers.
They could when they had competent leaders.
>>530360292Is it open now, faggot?
>>530363602He would have done it better and win another Nobel peace prize
>>530361495>Elgin shill poisoning the well
>>530363595>Incorrect, America was defeated by people wearing pajamas in Vietnam and Afganistan even though they produced nothingMechanistically, in war, lives are cheap units.
>>530363731Even back then the US constantly got stuck in quagmires
>>530360292In ancient India, priests would tell worshippers to repeatedly say what they want in order to manifest it, called “mantra”.Glad to see ancient knowledge still being practiced by modern cyber warriors.
>>530360554You thought the military money was being used to develop and purchase an arsenal? Are you an ASVAB waiver?
>>530362504>>530362634>>530362686>>530362787Jfc you ignorant fucking Yuropoors, we created the LUCAS drone on speed run last year, reverse-engineered from the Shahed, improved, and costing only $35,000 to the Shahed's $50,000. They went into production last year and have been used extensively in this series of kinetic actions. Most kill footage of rocket launch platforms and other relatively small targets show the LUCAS in action, being used specifically to avoid wasting expensive and slow to manufacture rockets and Soviet era hardware. This entire campaign has displayed a US military laser-focused on implementing the lessons of the Ukraine war regarding cost effectiveness and military industrial output and since we're a first world country (unlike Ukraine, Russia, or Iran) we of course do it better.Furthermore if you keep hallucinating that every US base in the region has been destroyed your going to be very confused over the coming months as the rest of the world behaves like they're still there because they are. A few radar domes and 6 FOBbits is a long way from every base in the region being destroyed. For example, have the Iranians even destroyed a single US aircraft? And no, F15s accidentally FFed by Kuwait with all pilots surviving do not count as Iranian kills
Reminder he’s talking about destroying Cuba next and it’s not over. Its just a matter of time until he sends missiles to your country. He’s insane.
>>530364433So the straits open?
>>530364433>reverse engineered from a sandnigger drone thats reverse engineered from a jew drone thats reverse engineered from a german droneMOST ADVANCED MILITARY IN THE WORLD
>>530361950>to win over the narrative
they expected the country that has been preparing for war for over 50 years to fold after one bad day
>>530361884new lame pasta
>>530360203So basically muricans created now mess which they cannot handle and no one who have common sense won't being involved.
>>530362634>if you curb-stomp me I windo shitskins really?
>>530364504Yes
>croat flag>shilling BRICSjeet and mudslime cope narratives>mfwkys VPN nigger
>>530364771Oh how clever! They just turn of the transponder! Have the THAAD batteries tried that?
>>530364504Yes, the Iranians never closed the straights British insurers did. Ships have been crossing the straights all day which is why the price of oil collapsed today. Ziggers live in a low-information bubble>>530364519The only things that matter in this equation are it works better than the Shahed, is 30% cheaper, and can easily be mass-produced in the US from American components. Rednecks could make the LUCAS in their backyard if necessary
>>530364625>failed to and will fail to achieve all their military goals>curbstompI'm not even for the sandniggers i just laugh at the jewish hubris.
>>530364433The US has allocated 1,1 billion for this drone program, for reference my tiny and irrelevant country launched its own 1 billion dollar drone program recently. What you are doing is tinkering, the numbers aren't released for a reason, you couldn't make as many shells as Russia does because you no longer have an industrial base and the same will be true with drones and Iran. Your output will turn out to be much lower than the iranian one even under these conditions if I'd had to make a guess>This entire campaign has displayed a US military laser-focused on implementing the lessons of the Ukraine war regarding cost effectivenessI highly doubt it, the US MIC is not interested in any of that, they are interested in scamming money and there exists incentives to continue doing so in the future because this is not an existential threat kind of conflict to America, they simply do not need to do anything else other than business as usual. For Iran the conflict is existential so they are forced to innovate and are ofcourse willing to absorb enormous casualties to continue having a country in the future>since we're a first world countryFirst world countries do not bomb political and religious leaders during ongoing negotiations, thats what some two bit dictators and head choppers in turbans do, there are perhaps parts of America that are still first world but its not like that as a whole anymore
>>530364433What are the current stockpiles? What is the max range on them? What is the top speed? I think Ukraine and russia using smaller drones is more effective against infantry since they are easier to hide. The new meta is parking drones in ambush spots because you can get the infantry as they are exiting or entering wherever they are holed up at and since they don’t see a drone in the air it’s “safe” to make a beeline. Also all you need to do to counter that is have a cheaper smaller drone take those big drones out. They are not cost effective enough
>>530360322this boomers trump panties obsession is the reason why 32 gigs ram costs 200 dollars now
>>530364542basically
>>530360322So Trump has stopped like 10 wars in less that a month!?!? WHERE IS THIS MANS PEACE PRIZE!?
>>530361884And for what? Because Israel wanted it?>>530362414Tbh small arms have shot down sneed drones. Gepards and the likes are great against them tho. No need to get a fucking heli in the air.
>>530364917>The US has allocated 1,1 billion for this drone programThe cost of 35,000 LUCAS drones. It's an acronym and "Low-cost" is what the L stands for>Your output will turn out to be much lower than the iranian one even under these conditions if I'd had to make a guessYour guess is based on an anti-American bias, very common among Yuropoors and one of the reasons you people are always wrong with your guesses and predictions >I highly doubt it, the US MIC is not interested in any of that,Nobody cares what the MIC wants, they care what the military wants because the Drumpf Empire has imposed a "the customer is always right" perspective upon them. Trump ran on doing this btw, and Hegseth spoke extensively about these being his goals for the military, so the fact that they actually did it shouldn't surprise you. That's why some of the first things to happen when Hegseth took over was the axing of several big pork barrel military R&D projects initiated by the unelected Biden junta because he was a slave to the MIC and anyone else who could scrape together a 5-figure bribe >First world countries do not bomb political and religious leaders during ongoing negotiationsThere is no moral requirement for first world status. Global hegemons do what they will and brown "people" suffer what they must
>>530364885>I'm totes a based redpilled nigger>muh goalposts>"haha you said you'd break boith my arms but you only knocked out my teeth so that means I win! ">conflation on americans and kikeskikes get bombed, uppity shitskins too and you're just coping
>>530365377Checked, I suspect the cost does not include the cost of labor itself which is incredibly expensive in the US, nothing else US makes is cheap so why would this drone be? Maybe you have an answer I haven't thought about yet>Your guess is based on an anti-American biasIts based on the fact that US was unable to surge any other military equipment production even though the Ukraine war in the minds of the politicians demanded it, US was no able to start outproducing Russia with shells and the surge capacity for interceptor missiles was also found lacking for example but yeah I do admit I have a bias against America, its because the unconditional support for jewish interests only instead of being the leader of western civilization. If America wanted me to be unbiased or pro America they would be pro white instead of pro jewish, clearly they do not want people like me or anybody with a western background on their side>Trump ran on doing this btwTrump also also ran on draining the swamp and with a slogan no new wars, the man is obviously a liar. I dont trust any of these people about any topic>so the fact that they actually did it shouldn't surprise youIt would be incredibly suprising to me if the US has an extensive cheap drone production line in the next 1-2 years and I dont believe it until I see it.>There is no moral requirement for first world statusYes there is, thats actually the primary component of it and how US differentiated itself from the USSR during the cold war, nowdays US is arguably one of the most immoral countries in the world when it comes to foreign policy>Global hegemons do what they will and brown "people" suffer what they mustThats might makes right type of attitude from people like Stalin whom US set itself as a direct opposition idealogically, now you are becoming the same as they were
>>530364849>The only things that matter in this equation are it works better than the Shahed, is 30% cheaper, and can easily be mass-produced in the US from American components. Rednecks could make the LUCAS in their backyard if necessaryYou're not wrong, but you have to see the irony.>>530365529Go surrender to some peaceful nation frenchman.You're not making sense.
>>530365377>"Low-cost" is what the L stands forit actually stands for LOLget it, because it's a joke.but for real it's just a shasneed copy.
>>530365377>There is no moral requirement for first world status. Global hegemons do what they will and brown "people" suffer what they must
>>530360203incredible posture. he really does look like a demented old man from an elderly home
>>530360203Trump lost 3 straight elections
>eurotranny is madOk
What the fuck. I was told the Iran war was complete in less than 2 week. Did Trump really tell an untruth?
>>530364385Makes sense, one america, one India, one ruler.Kamala once elected will offer the land to Modi.
>>530361939no reserves were released tho as they held off releasing them. Iran can't close the strait, they only threated to and their bluff only lasted a few days
>>530360203with a drone you can strike anywhere you want.
>>530365854>Trump also also ran on draining the swamp and with a slogan no new wars, the man is obviously a liar. I dont trust any of these people about any topicTrump pretty much revealed democracy to be a sham. You can just do the opposite of what you campaigned on and nothing will happen, the cattle won't react. He's unpopular in polls but the American public aren't doing anything against him, even Dems have given up
>>530360292 /pol/ humor thread is 2 pages down and to the right
>>530360554No. The way drones are being used in Russia, Ukraine and Iran is new to the USA military which is prepared for otherz older strategies.
>>530369640Cope, straights still closed. Oil prices going back up retard. Reserves are only a temporary band aid. They are called reserves for a reason, if straight wasnt closed you wouldn't need to use emergency reserves retard. Prices only came down for a few hours off of Trumps lies and damage control.
>>530364771Zogbots latching onto kike damage control. Straights still closed. If you weren't a retard you could verify it yourself.
>>530360292>The strait was already reopenedNo it didn't, you lost tranny
>>530365882my country has won more wars and battles than yours.
>>530361102Pedo, zionist and senileThat's what you need to become potus in the USA
>>530369640Cope
