ukraine is being helped by the entirety of nato and russia has been sanctioned by the entire world meanwhile you are losing to towel heads once again.

there is no good guy.
both sides are pocketing money to send weapons, so they have an incentive to keep the war going forever

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>>530360791
The good guy is me.

>>530360791
Good depends on your perspective. Provided you aren't using a VPN your tax dollars are being spent to help ukraine win and ukraine is not going to win.

>>530361470
full support saar!

>>530361262
Oh no. 8 soldiers. The horror!

Soldiers dying are mostly the same, other than some far russia curiosities or mercenaries.
The rulers behind this war are also mostly the same.
The rulers and the soldiers dying are not the same at all, though.

>>530360791
Depends, either you want to teach kids about anal sex or you want cheap electronics and oil

>>530363084
I agree it seems fake.

>>530363132
I don’t know what you mean by fake. Fabricated, maybe, very few Russians wanted this war, and even fewer Ukrainians did. But fake?

>>530360791
Russia and the USA are the bad guys. Ukrainians (the common people) are fucked beyond belief.

>>530360791
the details behind the destruction of Nord Streams prove that it couldn't have been done without CIA's involvement
meaning that this conflict is much more than just Ukraine vs. Russia
it is essentially an act of war against Russia by the US
this is why Russia is talking directly to Trump admin when trying to solve this conflict, not Ukraine

Russia is fighting essentially an existential proxy war with the collective West that tried to severely damage or destroy Russia using all out sanctions, Ukrainian territory and cannon fodder, where in 2014 they made a coup, installed a puppet regime, hired, vetted or blackmailed all the elites to fight Russia in this proxy war until last Ukrainian

>>530360791
no one but i respect Ukraines will to defend their country

>>530361399
>there is no good guy.
let's see:
it is a US/West proxy war, with many elements of direct one, against Russia
the reason why primarily the US and UK are doing this is because they want to dominate and control all of the world's resources and countries
Russia is just in their way

this is why US stopped pretending and political correctness
and kidnaps leaders and says that they will control that country's oil
that they want Greenland, Canada, kills Iranian leaders during negotiations and bombs them

it's so fucking obvious to anyone who is informed who is the good guys and the bad guys
unless you want anglosaxons to control the world, then of course Russia, China and Iran will be the bad guys to you

>>530365198
If puccia didn't want to engage in a proxy war with the us of a, they could've simply not invaded ookrain.

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>>530364801
most Ukrainian males cannot leave the country for 4 years
there are thousands of videos showing Ukrainians being chased and beaten on the streets by draft officers like some dogs
with orders to shoot their own if they try to surrender or retreat

after 2014 coup, all Ukrainian elites were hired, vetter or blackmailed to fight Russia in the proxy war
all of their families and wealth is in the West, as well as their future passport/asylum
that is why Zelensky's family is in UK for 4 years, why Ukraine's "general" who wrote in a book that he will he last to leave Kiev has been chilling in UK for 2 years
why Zelensky's right hand (Mindich) is in Israel with those millions he stole
none of them will live in Ukraine once their job is done

just say it openly, you want Ukrainians and Russians to kill each other for the West
no need to pretend

>>530363328
The Ukrainian government are the bad guys as well.
According to Ukrainian nationalists, they chose them themselves in their "revolution of dignity", so they can have being kikeslaves under them.

>>530360791
so far brics niggers have been shitting this board up with their low iq posts harder than ukroniggers, so they're the bad guys

>>530365457
>If puccia didn't want to engage in a proxy war with the us of a, they could've simply not invaded ookrain
why even comment about things you have no clue at all?
anglosaxons made this proxy war not only existential for Russia but also inevitable
not only they could have forced Russia's invation, they had the ability to choose the week of it

>>530360791
Not Jewtin, not Jewto, not Jewssels, not Jewlensky.

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>>530365457
Puccians are special they don't understand basic logic.
With their invasion of 2014 we especially Germany gave Russia a second chance but they saw that rather as an invitation for a further invasion since we looked "weak".
That's how Arab nigger and other shitskins think.

>>530365810
>puccia had to invade because america could've made them invade!
lmao
Show flag you dumb nigger.

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>>530365541
keep me posted, hivan

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>>530366345
>With their invasion of 2014 we especially Germany gave Russia a second chance
my sides
"we gave Russia a second chance"
definitely not to buy time in order to rebuild Ukraine's military, as your own fucking leader admitted, together with Hollande and Poroshenko

>>530366440
Putin is full of shit, but what world leader isn't?

>>530363131
So you're saying I should side with NATO then?

They're both faggots.
Ukraines a bigger one.

>>530360791
Russia
>multicultural federation run by a clique of former communist party members and agents
>influenced by philosophy of eurasianism, to create a new world order merging the peoples of africa, asia, and middle east into one union
>saw opportunistic chance to seize territory in ukr and expand borders to further territorial objectives against baltics and central/east europe and balkans

Ukraine
>conglomerate country predominantly based on heritage of cossacks and peasants
>source of trouble for most of history, something similar to american wild west except if texas never submitted to mexico or usa
>found itself chance to cut satrapy status with moscow with end of ussr
>plagued with internal corruption
>support by former warsaw pact countries as zone to keep out russia federation from enlarged borders
>support by western europe as potential economic partner
>support by usa as a way to keep in russian ambitions to expand and as way to keep western europe in check and central/east europe friendly

>>530366345
>>530366671
Germans is a special breed
they never learn even from their own mistakes, and don't realize how they are being prepared by anglosaxons to fight Russia a third time

but that's not even the point
Nazis invaded Soviet Russia with the goal to kill and deport half of the population, while leaving a third as slaves
they came to take all of European part of Russia (Generalplan Ost), in order to make "living space" for the Germans
it was USSR that broke the Nazi spine, defeated 4/5 of its forces, stormed and took its capital
USSR lost 27 million people, most of who were civilians and Russian, suffered great damage due to Nazi's "scorched earth" tactic

at that point USSR could have deported all the Germans (and other allies) that were under its control to fucking Africa and their land for itself
instead it only takes Konigsberg

anlgosaxons want to partition Germany into many pieces, Stalin says no, keep it united but neutral
they create NATO, label USSR as new enemy in 1946, Eastern Germany gets formed

then in late 80s Gorbachev thinking that he is doing the right thing for humanity lets Germany "reunite", ends Cold war
all while getting assurances by Germans, British and Americans that NATO won't expand an inch east, documented

Russia withdraws its occupation forces in 1994 from Germany, while selling gas at cheap prices for 50 years since 1970
how does Germany repay Russia for all that it has done?

Germany participates in NATO's war on Yugoslavia for the first time since WW2
does not object NATO expansion
German bases come to parts of former USSR
supports regime in Ukraine who have a Nazi collaborator as national hero

you'd think that after all they have done to Russia 80 years ago and what Russia has done for them, they would stay neutral, but no
once again German armor with a cross comes to Kursk to kill Russians

there is a writing on a wall in Berlin in Russian: "you reap what you sow"
remember this

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>>530360791
Putin is a kike, mass murdering whites in another country (4+ years ongoing)
Before the war, he's put all his money on Yanukovich, twice-convicted back in SU, low IQ criminal.
It's not complicated
If Putin bombed some brown people, my only concern would be that it's expensive.

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>>530360791
What is Zelensky's genius plan to win this war?
Him pocketing millions every month, stolen from financial aid, would explain his current behavior.
Google Zelenskyy Mindich tapes