>Russia cannot conquer Ukraine in four years.>Israel has been unable to conquer Gaza for three years and needs international assistance to "control" it.- Israel has also been unsuccessful in its raids into southern Lebanon and, despite admitting to having "decapitated" it last year, still lacks the capacity to take control of the territory.- The United States cannot conquer Iran as it did Iraq and there is a general fear of attempting to deploy troops for fear of stalemate.What makes it so difficult to "conquer" countries today? What are your theories and opinions on this?
>>530375178Modern militaries still haven't discovered how to meaningfully quell population based insurgencies. It isn't enough to have the capacity to destroy military targets when your adversaries blend into the civilian population. Now you're in a situation where you have to bomb civilian infrastructure just to root out the insurgents which only ever creates more of them from the rubble. There is no easy answer to this conundrum.
>>530375178Because people play nice.Israel could just nuke Gaza if they really wanted to. It's tiny.
>>530375178Because we are the good guys (Christians). We can easily nuke Ukraine or sandniggers anytime.
>>530375178>nothing going on in guinea>planes just don't want to fly over it>tfw
Nobody wants to die these days. In the past, anything less than 100k dead was a minor skirmish. Now seven zoggies die and they're flown in on military planes, thousands in fuel are spent on it, and the president goes out to personally watch their goyboxes get tossed in the back of a van. Back before vietnam they would just make mass graves for anyone that wasn't well connected.
>>530375178russia has skill issuesthe rest has human rights issues
Low casualty tolerance. People no longer care about muh nation and country, so you're left with nationalist retards and greedy mercenaries to fight. Add to that a decline in military industrial capabilities. Despite having "primitive" technology, any major WW2 era army would walk all over any modern country. they could produce tanks, artillery, planes, ships at a staggering rate and raise multimillion armies in a few weeks like it's nothing. It's just another example of the competency crisis in modern societies
>>530375178Drones have made the defender advantage enormous.
genova convention and shit innit cant use tried and true methods such raping the population into submission and changing the way they look and speak
>>530375178Nukes, MAD and globalized commerce
>>530375178It only works if you conquer countries that aren't filled with worthless browntards like Germany and Japan.
>>530375821Jews don't have human rights issue, dork!
>>530375328Yes, it is a wicked question. The best way to do it is to be morally superior. The difficulty with that comes with the fact that being good at war is inherently something that morally deficit people strive at ie. le Jews.
1) Communication and Transportation technologies have advanced to the point where insurgencies can be forever supported by a sponsor state. North Vietnam was largely supported by the soviets… Afghanistan in the 80s was largely supported by us. Hamas in Gaza supported by Israel (prior to 10/7) and Iran. This basically means that an insurgency can last forever if they have a committed sponsor, and it’s usually always in someone’s interest to sponsor them, the ONLY exception to this being Rhodesia, who eventually lost despite having the most successful military in human history. This was not possible pre-early 20th century - communication too slow and transportation too difficult to move materials. Now it’s piss-easy.2) Satellites provide near perfect intelligence, making offensive maneuvers on a large scale impossible to pull off with surprise. Manstein’s sickle cut, D-Day, Barbarossa, Pearl Harbor, basically any large scale surprise offensive you can think of would be impossible to pull off today, shifting combat odds to the favor of the defense on a massive scale. It’s a huge reason why Ukraine has become WWI-style trench/attritional warfare. Neither side can advance aggressively without getting absolutely obliterated by highly accurate artillery fire (king of battle)
>>530375178Because people don't see a purpose in dying for anyone or anything?
>>530375328>There is no easy answer to this conundrum.the easy solution has been known since the dawn of time: the civilians hand over the insurgents or they all die.
>>530376613They can't hand over someone holding them at gunpoint. That's why they all load rubber dinghies and risk drowning to get elsewhere, which they don't assimilate into and ruin that too.
>>530375821>skill issues yeah they dont have western assholes giving urkaine all there money and weapons issues. fucking spastic.
>>530375178Russia isn't trying to "conquer" Ukraine retard. Putin literally sat on camera and told everyone his objectives in Feb 2022 and unlike America now, he's more or less achieved them. I think they have the vast majority of the separatist territories now. I can't believe people still post this drivel about Putin wanting to conquer Ukraine or invade fucking latvia or conquer the EU like their thinking is a regurgitation of BBC news propaganda.
>>530375178Western countries have grown soft and feminised.If you compare squaddies today with when I were a lad (gen-Xer) something is missing. They just don't look as tough, disciplined or manly. Something has changed. Also third world countries are catching up and you don't need enormous budgets and high technology to cause havoc.
>>530375178>What is political theater
Simply none of this is a real war. These are nothing more than petty squabbles. If us wants a real war in the middle easy there would be boots on the ground in Iran.If Russia wanted a real war they would invade the west. If China wanted a real war they would attack formosa and threaten Japan. The Nato forces have been useless and serve no purpose beyond fodder.
>>530376807NAFOid trannies can never simply acknowledge the real objectives because to do so would be to admit Russia won which causes them to feel suicidal.
>>530375178the only way to win war is to kill at least 30% of fighting age males of the losing side
>>530376613>or they all dieModern governments don't have the same leeway with their populace as the tribal warlords throughout most of human history did when it comes to full blown genocide
>>530375178Think about what a small band of insurgents would have been able to do with spears. Not very much. Think about what a small band of insurgents would have been able to do with muskets. Quite a bit more but still not enough.Think about what a small band of insurgents would have been able to do with bolt action rifles. Quite a bit more but manageable.Think about what a small band of insurgents would be able to do with assault rifles, ieds, and computers. Quite a bit more.It's force multiplication.
>>530375178>What makes it so difficult to "conquer" countries today? What are your theories and opinions on this?The West has lost its warrior culture. Read Van Creveld.
>>530375178All these wars are fake. Look how much money Ukraine stole from the EUIts all about money and power
>>530375725>Miggers=ziggers But why do you need to break into other people's houses, moishe?!
>>530375178Conquest requires manpower and logistics that modern armies just can’t really support, plus technology has given the defender an extreme asymmetrical advantage. You’re left with WW1 style frozen lines and slow movement. This could be rectified with total war, but then you wouldn’t have anything left to conquer really, and you’d make even more enemies
>>530377177*hits bong*Whoooooooaaaaah
>>530377002They’re already losing their minds over Iran, you can smell the impotent rage in their posts
>>530376408>The best way to do it is to be morally superior.Bullshit, Alexander the great solved it by incorporating resistance fighters into tax collectors & minor positions, basically making them the local mob bosses, it worked great
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>>530375178In order to conquer an ethnic group you either genocide them or reduce their numbers to less than 10% of the invading force to the point where their culture is too weak to resist assimilation. US is willing to do neither.
>>530375178Military strategies and weapons evolved and therefore war became more costly. Asymmetric warfare is now a big thing too.
because capitalists discovered controlling>owning
The real answer is drone & missile spam is available to smaller country’s and it completely saturates anti air protectionBasically both sites get hit hard as you’ve seen in Russia/Ukraine and Iran/Israel&Arabs
>>530375178ukraine is used to bleed NATO there is no value in taking ground in modern attrition warfare.there are in a comfy spot were the enemy is wasting a ton of resources to no avail so why end the war when you are winning? only losers want to end the war to cut their lossesgaza is a special case , its guerila warfare x10 so you just cant storm and take everything without massive casualties,you haveto slowly smoke them out
>>530376807He never wanted to conqueror it, that's why he tried a direct assault aiming to seize control of Kiev, which failed disastrously. It's like Mexico invading the US by trying to seize the White House, only to say "aktschually we only want Texas, California, Florida and New Mexico due to [insert historical take], definitely not to topple the country" .
>>530375178Iran and USA have massive stockpiles, its difficult to know the victor.The war just started 1PBTID faggot retard zhido-kike
because it's a fight for public perception. you want to be seen as a liberator instead of a conqueror. you have to walk a thin line. as much of a farce democracy, it still open the window for your long-term plans to be fucked up.
The answer is Nukes as simple as that.By developing nukes before having a dominant race or ideology across the world, we have soft-locked ourselves in a perpetual stalemate due to multiple races (White/Chinks/Poo/etc) and ideologies (western capitalist/socialist, eastern commies, Islamist, etc) having the same destructive capabilities with each other despite significant differences in all other aspects. So instead of having wars with each other to weed out the loser races/ideologies, we just try to wait for the natural collapse that happens to flawed races/ideologies (the Cold War wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for nukes and would have gotten into a war with Russia almost instantly after the fall of Berlin).So now, the only two options we have are continuing with the current path that led us to fail the great filter or having a nuclear which would set up hundreds of years but will remove the soft lock caused by nuclear weapons.And for those that deny nukes, you are coping as you have already concluded that nukes have doomed humanity's development and we are an extinct species walking.The only reason why shitslam still exists, china and India populations are in the billions, South Korea hasn't run over North Korea with the fury of an "incel" army, socialism and communism are still a thing despite being proved wrong multiple times are nukes and MAD fear.There is no escaping from this catch-22, we can't put the nuclear genie back into the bottle, we either go extinct by nuclear war or we wither away as we are unable to wage war and purge all the undesirables from our genes and societies.You know this and you can't cope with the fact that we as a species have engineered our destruction, so you fool yourself into thinking that such devices don't exist, as no species would create something that would destroy its creatorConquer war is impossible when having a superior army, logistics, and equipment is rendered useless by a single missile
>>530375178modern warfare is relegated to swift precise air/missile strikes on select targets, and electronic warfare like surveillance, targeting individuals and maintaining propaganda. if those don't work, then special forces can come in and remove a trouble-maker, usually after gathering a lot of intel on the target/region.it would be totally possible to raise a WW2 style army, because he absolute cost of doing that would take months-years and would force a significant % of resources into making vehicles and munitions. The rest of the world would see it coming too. Because of globalism, most countries on the planet are benefiting from improved quality of life: First World nations receive all sorts of cheap consumables and unique products, and 3rd world countries get a lot of capital to improve their infrastructure and enrich their populous. I know it feels like the quality of everything is going down, but in truth that's probably just for the 1st world nations and many of the world's countries are gaining a lot of wealth, so there is no real reason to just start unprovoked conflicts. Israel is an exception because ancient bloodfueds and Russia too because of monke in power
>>530379864Nukes are fake. It's just rebranded Star Wars program. Dirty bombs exist. High yield bombs exist. But nukes/thermonuclear weapons as they're explained and presented do not exist. The entire ploy is to make countries that are hostile reveal themselves as hostile. If it's not a hostile country then they can use the nuclear program to provide cheap electricity. If they are hostile they'll just waste time and resources burning through fuel rods instead of producing energy which means they won't be using those same resources producing actual weapons. The reason US intervenes is so hostile nations can never actually figure out that nukes are bullshit because the moment they do everyone else will realize the game being played.
>>530380514One day, you will stop coping and face the truth of our extinction
>>530375178It depends on your definition of "control."Consider the colonization of Africa. European countries "controlled" most of the continent. In practice, this meant a few administrative buildings in the capitol and a handful of extraction industries.It did not mean widespread adoption of the "controlling" country's religious or cultural practices.Even when you have a Christian or Islamic conversion of the "controlled" country, it was a local version of the religion that bears little resemblance to the "controlling" country's version.Hell, even Caesar's conquest of Gaul was in reality a collection of treaties with local tribes to provide tribute to Rome that periodically resulted in insurrections that had to be put down.Proper conquest requires the elimination of the conquered populace, e.g. the conquest of the Americas where smallpox did most of the heavy lifting.
because Total War no longer exists
>>530376776yes, the 5000 helmets were the reason why the vdv got raped in hostomel
>>530375328They had the Palestinians almost completely disarmed and subjugated at one point. So they got good at throwing stones.
>>530375178>The United States cannot conquer IranWe haven't tried to conquer Ira >there is a general fear of attempting to deploy troops for fear of stalemate.No for fear of getting assraped in the elections because nobody wants another Iraq. If we invaded Iran the Iranian army would collapse instantly and we'd be in Tehran in under a month. It's the ensuing 30 years of occupation that would result in 10,000 American dead and 80 trillion in spending just for Shiite radicals to retake the country the moment we leave.
>>530375178In older times, you would gather a bigger army and march to the enemy’s capital. If you captured it, you won, and you didn’t worry about the villages or people living in the mountains.
>>530375178Consider studying logistics. It covers everything from supply soldiers to even moving soldiers in the first place. >The United States cannot conquer Iran as it did IraqYou'd have to deploy troops to conquer a country. Not just do a bombing raid. In 2003 there was already large logistic operations and build up in the region the months prior preparing for the war. Do you think that just because you declared war that suddenly troops can instantly be deployed? Boots were in Iraq on day one because the US under Bush prepared ahead of time to deploy and immediately deployed leading to the conquest. Other than sending one carrier, there has been virtually no significant build up prior to the bombing runs. If Trump was really competent, there would already be boots in Iran because that's what it takes to conquer a country. If you don't want to do that, you will never conquer a country. Killing leadership would only work if Iran was 16th century Africa (didn't have any succession laws ever because those low IQ Kangz didn't understand the need for them, they love the trappings of power but not the responsibility). If Drumpfy wants to conquer Iran he needed three four months of logistics to make sure everything needed is in place to conquer Iran. >>Israel has been unable to conquer Gaza for three years and needs international assistance to "control" it.Still have to fight a hostile native population. They are also still limited by logistics. If they bomb a region, they still have to clean up the debris so they can travel through it as well (part of logistics) much like if a renaissance canon collapsed a wall, they still have to move the debris before they can send any significant number of soldiers through the breech. All of course are covered in Logistics, the moving of materials.
>>530377002>russia won4 years of fighting and it's still going, with countless men dead. How much more until putin decides he has what he wanted? How is going to stop ukraine from trying to take it back?
>>530375178People are still holding back.
>>530382935That's also how October 7th was so obviously a fucking false flag.Even something like Gaza should have taken months to complete preparations to mobilize, and king kike was even on TV bragging about how it was a record speed military mobilization.Obviously they had the mobilization planned and sorted well before the attack happened. Pretty sure I saw a quote from Ben Gvir saying how he wanted to flatten Gaza and annex the west bank that predated October 7 2023 by like 6 months. long enough to plan a major military mobilization.
>>530381951>hostomelYou have to go back, Voloeymiyr
>>530376303you ever been to japan? Most of them are retarded
>>530375178>>Russia cannot conquer Ukraine in four years.Ukraine is fighting to make sure all the goy Ukrainians die and is getting a lot of material aid from the EU. Even from places like Norway where they have children fundraise to buy drones to kill more goys. Russia has a lot of logistic problems to deal with as well especially. Ukraine is fighting back with logistic support from Europe. To win any war, the surest way is logistics. Destroy your enemy's logistics and keep yours in tact. Destroying factories and raiding farmsteads was always standard practice in war. It demonstrates that the other government cannot protect you and it hinders their military capability. No supplies means no war. >> Israel has also been unsuccessful in its raids into southern Lebanon and, despite admitting to having "decapitated" it last year, still lacks the capacity to take control of the territory.The same thing there. Except Israel really doesn't have the population to deploy in Lebanon and conquer it. It can run special ops and has to play the long term demographic game. But then the kikes in their stone age Torah retardation think they should be going to war now and that somehow their mythical Yahweh will hand them victory because they're G-d's chosen people. Truly Israeli jews are some of the dumbest in the world. Diaspora kikes seem to understand they have to play the long game. Whereas Israeli kikes cannot understand that even if you are getting welfare from the US you cannot make all your neighbors hostile to you. (Something Zion Don doesn't understand either). This is also why Europeans are in danger. They allow foreigners to play the long game and do nothing to prevent them while their kike rulers who are trying to play the long game against Europe help them do so.
>>530381951>hostomel>wording for "defeat">downplaying the literal shit out of the literal life support hohols have been given for 4 yearswhoop whoop, hohol diaspora detected HRUUUUUUUUK
>>530375178Israel is just bad at war because they need goys to fight for them. Russia is winning. USA is fighting far away from home
>>530383445Russia suffered the most losses in the early stages, when no one was interested in Ukraine yet.What are you babbling about?They only get leftovers, which are constantly being blocked.
>>530375178I think Is easier but modern leaders are just a bunch of retarded fags
>>530375178Total warfare has been avoided since world war 2. >Total war is where a nation uses every available resource and strategy to destroy an enemy's ability to fight, explicitly removing the distinction between military targets and civilian populations or infrastructure. It assumes that the entire enemy society—its factories, farms, transportation, and people—is part of the war effort and therefore a legitimate target for destruction.The USA, Russia, Israel, all have refused to just outright destroy their enemy. Look at Japan. After losing in a total war, they gave up fighting and their main export is now cartoons. Similar with Germany. After losing in total war, they gave up fighting and their main export is now the hottest trannies in the world. Both of which are in a slide of extinction via failure to breed.
>>530375524>Because people play nice.This is the reason. I highly doubt the US would unleash what it's really capable of on Iran. If they did that would open a whole other can of worms on secret tech being discovered
>>530375524>Israel could just nuke Gaza if they really wanted toThat make the land inhabitable
>>530375178If Israel and the United States wanted to, they could wipe out all of their enemies in the Middle East by putting boots on the ground and nuking everyone who opposes them, they dont do that because it just isnt worth it, Bibi and Trump are like Batman and Spider-Man, who hold back when they fight the bad guys.>but what about Russia in UkraineIn this case Putin is just weak af.
>>530375178Endless reinforcements
>>530383565>suffering more losses during a conventional offensive stage compared to defensive and limited offensive operations stageReally now, Taras? That's absolutely bonkers! And no, it's not leftovers they get, not to speak of the billions in financial backing and intelligence privided, and don't try to distance yourself from your compatriots that were unlucky or stupid enough to stay over there. It is true what the say baout your congenital ingratitude, my God. Hruk hruk little piggie, go back! The motherland needs you!
>>530375328Fucking fippy bippy and a half
>>530375178Because there is no great technological advantage one nations has over others anymore.
>>530375328>Modern militaries still haven't discovered how to meaningfully quell population based insurgenciesThey know how, they just don't want to do it, even the supposedly bad guy militaries like Russia. Lots and lots of poison gas.
>>530375178Because they show mercy. They don't go all out and bomb every house and citizen.
>>530375524>Israel could just nuke Gaza if they really wanted toAnd die of radiation in the processIt would be a desirable TKD, actually.
>>530375328that's not the case for Iran. the missile launchers aren't hidden among civilians.
>>530375178>Russia cannot conquer Ukraine in four yearsThey don't want to conquer it retard, it's not possible
>>530385119This.They launch from well away from civilian centers. Out in the mountains where they can hide shit under solid rock. Natural bunkers that outperform even the toughest man-made materials. Nobody lives out there. It's desolation in every direction for miles. If the US and Israel are hitting inside the cities it's because they're deliberately targeting civilians.
>>530380791We should ally with yemen to conquer somalia and take all their oil. Encourage the desert Bedouin to keep farming their dunescapes and when the chinkoid-backed Mogadishu regime try to zerg us with boats we just fly a few thousand drones armed with machine guns to send them all to the bottom of the sea
>>530375178We have good time how you doing, we throw you out, that usually how people talk in the middle east.
>>530375178Pretty hard to erase whole nations of people with the existence of mass media and especially independent mass media
>>530385408Oh yeah that reminds me. IRGC also has satellite groups in Africa that they could potentially activate.
>>530385505It's a shame that most bronies are /k/ tier nafo troons, otherwise they would be happy to see Iran using the power of friendship to their advantage.
>>530385408Why ally with Yemen? Just bomb their ports and let famine do the rest.Hell, taking the land is unnecessary as all their oil is offshore anyway.
Army sizes stayed the same. Populations exploded. Napoleon could conquer half of europe with 300k men. Today that same 300,000 would be up against over 300 million people.
>>530375178Check out this newsreel shot during the German invasion of Belgium. Millions of men zerg rushing the border, artillery flattening every little village in their path, and not a single care about thousands of casualties dropping every day. No computers, no satellites, no wireless comms, just waves of flesh and steel smashing into each other. Nowadays something like that would be impossible.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOJLKxAp8pY
>>530375328> the United States cannot conquer Iran as it did Iraqactually it absolutely can, it just doesn't want the casualties. the US could do it but you'd be looking at like 20,000-30,000 dead and wounded probably Yes the Iranian civilians are oppressed but freeing them from oppression is not worth thousands of American combat daeths
War isn't a game you play for points. Real people die when you click up on their suffering without feeling it. Stop treating actual death like entertainment
>>530375524Could they tho? Even if they own even every state and local politician I don’t see how they could survive the global retaliation if they did that.
>>530375328The way to meaningfully quell population based insurgencies is to not be an ideological retard.Let's take Afghanistan for an example. Say I was tasked with occupying it, my strategy wouldn't be to create mini USA, it would be to recreate Afghanistan. Let whats left of the heads of state choose their own successor and then offer them almost complete control over their country with the stipulation that Afghanistan will now be considered an autonomous territory of the United States, that they would never take military action against the United States and in return will be protected should anyone aggress upon them. That's it. Everything else goes back to normal. And you know what? They'll take that deal every single time.
>>530375178War is about profit. A conquered country is no longer at war thus profits diminish
>>530375178Conquering land (and people) is a liability. nowadays. You get refugees, you get terrorism, you lose political power and you barely get to see any of the resources cause the corpos just take all the profit.The other path is subversion, it works for a while until the world catches up to you...can't keep people fooled since we got video tech in our hands now, before that you could just lie in the newspaper and talmudvision.Ie in Russia where the kikes raised the red army and took the russian empire for themselves.Or in murica where the kikes bloodsuck using capitalism and the epstein class.
>>530387584>"Here's how you do a regime change right, you don't actually change the regime!"That's uh...kind of missing the point...
>>530386096>Just bomb their ports and let famine do the rest.Saudia Arabia did that for decades and now Shaheed drones are raining down on our military bases throughout the region. Perhaps we should pull our dicks OUT of the hornets nest.>offshoreExactly. We should set up a base of operations on socotra island to conquer the entire horn of africa
>>530375178The modern concept of "nation-state" is fake and gae. Nazis were able to conquer their neighbours because there were an important amount of germans living in those countries, even in slavs countries as poland.
>>530386628>artillery flattening every little village in their pathyou mean like this?
>>530375328>There is no easy answer to this conundrum.ofc there is kill them allcivilians are complicit
>>530388195The Saudis bombed *Yemen* not Somalia, and they didn't form a blockade on account of their piss poor navy so humanitarian aid still arrived.I kind of assumed your genocidal design would include interdicting relief efforts. Strange pivot from "kill 'em all" to anti-interventionism. Try to keep your shilling coherent.
>>530388305Well, that’s the German Malmedy, that doesn’t count. Go to 19:40 in this newsreel about the invasion of France, that's what I mean.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT53EPQSUfU
>>530375178Defence is just WAY superior to offence atm, it’s like WWI
>>530376713so they side with the most fearsome belligerents if they want to live
>>530382935we just need to level tehran
>>530388067That's the entire point. Regime change is retarded shit. People won't just accept a foreign power radically changing their lives. An occupation under my conditions would create an allied state in the region for decades, as long as a new president didn't come along and go full retard. I don't care how they run their country, I don't care what they worship, I don't care what their laws are. The singular goal is to remove an enemy state and it accomplishes that goal flawlessly.
>>530375178>Russia cannot conquer Ukraine in four years.They might have been able to if they weren't constantly tripping over their own feet in the key opening phases of the invasion. The thrust towards Kyiv right at the start was plagued by poor planning and incompetence, when Ukrainian resistance proved much fiercer than expected the Russians got badly bogged down and eventually it got so bad they had to withdraw completely. Then because Moscow had to pretend that it was all just a "special military operation" they ended up escalating/mobilising in a piecemeal fashion that allowed Ukraine to keep up militarily despite Russia on paper having a far larger and better equipped military (and IIRC at one point around the time of the Kharkiv offensive Ukraine actually had more men on the battlefield than the Russians), and by the time the Russians finally stopped fucking around and started pouring actual-real-war levels of men and materiel into Ukraine it had turned into some horrendous apocalyptic drone-saturated meatgrinder that nobody on Earth really knows how to fight against properly.
>>530383681>believing muh nook doomsday in the big two sixFew years for the iodine-131 to decay and be reyt
>>530388932we do the same by paying niggers to settle iran after we kill off the iraniansit'll be a vassal state in a jiff
>>530382185You'd have just taken over the bureaucratic/taxation apparatus and started to rule. But democracy and decolonization made this impossible as such government would be seen as illegitimate by both the conqueror's and the conquered population. No one would agree to being governed this way and government isn't possible without consent of the population (often enforced with terror but w/e)
>>530389444kill them all and that isn't a problem
>>530375328If your enemy looks like everyone else in the civilian population you will never win.This was figured out thousands of years ago when conquers would just kill everyone, or at least all males.
>>530389545Most modern states wouldn't tolerate such rogue behavior by one of them. They are self-policing each other.
>>530375178>- The United States cannot conquer Iran as it did Iraq and there is a general fear of attempting to deploy troops for fear of stalemate.We could finish Iran off easily if we didn't care about the GOOD IRANIAN PEOPLE.
>>530375524They want the land for themselves, not irradiated pile of debris and scorn of whole fucking world you imbecile.
>>530375328how about, and get this, staying the fuck home instead of dying in the sand because the rich guy on TV told you to?
>>530390371Have you ever spoken with an Iranian person?
>>530375178>Why is it so difficult to conquer countries today?People don't like seeing dead kids on tv
>>530379457>failed disastrouslyUkraine surrendered and Russia withdrew in good faith as part of that surrender agreement. The blitz was wildly successful, and Russia spoiled it by foolishly trusting western diplomacy. The surrender document didn't annex or conquer Ukraine, nor has any surrender they've offered since. The only reason Ukraine is an independent nation in the first place is because the USSR intentionally got rid of it, because it's a toxic asset.
>>530379864Nukes aren't a problem (for them I mean) but globalization is. Local conflicts can spiral into global ones easier than ever and there is very little to gain and everything to lose from escalating them.
>>530379583>Iran and USA have massive stockpilesThe USA does not have stockpiles of modern equipment it can use to fight a war. Iran does. JDAMs are useless if you don't have air superiority. They're also useless against Iran's bunkers. Iran's missiles meanwhile have destroyed America's presence in the middle east temporarily in one day and then permanently in one week.
>>530375328well said
>>530375178>Why is it so difficult to conquer countries today?It's not. You just gotta know how.>https://www.brighteon.com/a2f87e73-c82b-47e5-8506-960e181b3a45
>>530388628>Why ally with Yemen? Just bomb their ports and let famine do the rest.>>530388195>Saudia Arabia did that for decadesCorrection: it's only been 11 yearshttps://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/war-yemen>>530388628link rel. Try to keep your shilling coherent. Invading somalia would be a thousand times easier than invading Iran
>>530388685Even the news were on another level back then.
>>530375328>no answer to this conundrumThe answer is obviously to stop making new insurgents with bombs. You even correctly identified the method by which those insurgents are made.How do the citizens of western nations benefit from war in the middle east? I'll accept any rationale for any of the wars there over the past 60 years.
>>530375178Build filtration campsEveryone has to pass themBut countries today especially in the west are too gay to do this. Only russia is doing it successfully in ukraine
>>530375178Twofold1. Local populations don't like to be ruled over by foreigners2. Generations long occupational brutality that would break the local spirit is too costly, and populations of countries wealthy enough to do such a thing are morally against it and unwilling to participate in it.
>>530375328>Modern militaies still haven't discovered how to meaningfully quell population based insurgencies.wouldn't the best way be through stranger king theory? Though you have to be willing to set up local militias first, which the us has failed at recently.
>>530375178Elites in pwoer literally don't want to offer anything to anyone, particularly the enemies.
>>530375178>Russia cannot conquer Ukraine in four years>Ukraine basically got unlimited funding, equipment, and mercinaries from other nations
surveillance + the ability to strike with pinpoint precision. drones and precision guided missiles make logistics a nightmare / impossible and remove the element of surprise. for example the ukrainians knew the russians would invade months in advance. the russians knew the ukrainians would attack crimea half a year in advance. when the russians tried again in the kharkov region their forward assembly areas were spotted with drones and vehicles waiting to move out were targeted before they even had a chance to enter ukraine. how are you supposed to win a quick victory if your enemies knows where you are at all times, and has the ability to hit you with perfect precision.it's just not possible.
>>530395253Russians were telling everyone they can solo NATO before 2022 tho.
