Politics aside, and purely as an armchair military thought exercise.How would you carry out an invasion of this country? What goals would you have and what strategy would you follow?
Bomb all military installments. Once cleared, send in infantry at a secured entry point with supplies and build bases. Slowly encroach with a supply line and fortifications behind them. Continue the aerial assault on unsecured territory.
>>530381271>Politics aside, and purely as an armchair military thought exercise.>How would you carry out an invasion of this country? What goals would you have and what strategy would you follow?Nobody on this board is gonna give you any idea's SAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
>>530381271>Politics asideyour literally doing some communist plot against our organs that is fucked up
Use thermal imaging and find their underground fortresses - bomb them.
>>530381271Introduce feminism in order to sow discord between the sexes.That is basically how the US got to where it is now so maybe it'll work on Iran
>>530381271bomb the shit out of them and then airlift boots and equipment on the ground
>>530381271Do what the Russians werent able to, Paratroopers into Tehran with full air support
>>530381271Jesus Christ go ask Chatgpt
>>530381550Thats not how it works
>>530381502I’m thinking because in some grand strategy games like EU4, Vic2, or Hearts of Iron I have invaded Iran/Persia before, but always by land.An invasion mostly by sea and air, I’m unsure where to even begin.I think the south-east near the Pakistan border would be best, and the people there are sunni as well as non-persian so maybe they would be willing to cooperate. India could be a useful ally as well and might even be willing to provide military support however that makes Pakistan a major issue. Of course perhaps Pakistan could be convinced to support an invasion as well but in that case I think India would be upset and Pakistan is unreliable honestly.My goal would be to break-up the nation as much as possible and reduce it to warlordism/ethnic enclaves much like Somalia or Ethiopia. I’d also try to include India over Pakistan since they are anti-islam and more ideologically reliable for me as the USA.
>>530381271I would first invade Iraq and Afghanistan and use the bases there as staging points for the invasion. That was the original plan, but the military refused to attack back then because they determined Iran was too strong and would win kek
I wouldn't bother due to the challenging topography, but if I had to invade, I'd destroy their water supplies until they were forced to surrender to an occupying power, like an old medieval siege. I wouldn't have a goal as such, since they're a country with an ancient history, they mind their own business and they don't interfere in European ventures.
>>530381271I'd create a cult and commit ritualistic child sacrifice for millennia, create an inbred genepool of schizophrenia-prone goblins and send them out to destabilise functional societies. Then I'd completely take over those destabilised societies and use all their resources to invade other nations like the one in question.
>>530381445>>530381550Ok so here are the freshwater sources of Iran - near these is where the Iran underground bases are.My guess is Gahar Lake due to the proximity to Tehran and high mountain altitude.
>>530381271bomb main citiesi mean nukes, drop their population to a couple of millions
>>530381968That’s not a bad plan in pure theory terms.It gives you a land-base where you can concentrate your forces.As-is, an amphibious or air dropped invasion seems really risky even if AD is neutralized, artillery will make any land forces miserable.It will be like Dien Bien Phu was here
>>530382115Zrebar LakeGahar LakeParishan Lake I would guess these freshwater sources have underground bases near them.The freshwater sources up north near the sea - maybe? But as a hunch I'd guess the other lakes first.
>>530381271Why bother? The south west area is the most important part to conquer, the green part which is easy is like where 100% of the oil is. Take that and leave the rest of the shithole to the apes, maybe do bombing runs every now and then if they get uppity.
>>530382115If Iran is a fortress, then treating this like a siege is logical.Unironically chemical weapons dropped on the rural areas would cripple them, even if they are just herbicides to destroy the farms and rural livelihoodThe rural people are the backbone of the IRGC power. Bombing cities imo is counterproductive since they are irrelevant right now.I’d not even bother with Tehran if I was a general in charge, rather I’d hit rural and border regions to soften them.
>>530381271Only possible way, use Iraq (which would require an invasion of Iraq) and push through the west to the North, then through the center down to the Southwest. THis is boarderline impossible, but evreything else is impossible. Iran can't be beaten via airpower, they ahve bunkers over a km deep, even nuklear warheads in bunker buster bombs can't touch that. Estimated time: > 10 yearsEstimated American KIA: > 1 millionEstimated American WIA: > 5 million Estimated Iranian Casualties: > 20 million Their is no ration reason for a state to pursue this plan. Better to have a White peace.
>>530382314That is Saddam's war plan in 1980, ask him how it worked out. Oh wait, you can't.
>>530382115UR a fucking genius anon lol
>>530381271Slowly bomb desalination plants and any water reservoirs, destroy the capital's electrical grid. Offer benefits to high-ranking military officers. Then allow a coup d'état with the aim of establishing a true democracy.
>>530382581Tank ya tank ya
>>530382470I think if America had invaded back in like 2006 or so, from both Afghanistan and Iraq with large forces under the pretext that Iran was behind all of this terrorist activity, it would have won.It would have taken losses surely, and it would not be an easy war, but America could have won before 2010 imo.Today however? Idk a buildup in Iraq would take too long and a naval invasion is very risky. Plus the US military today is not what it was 20y ago.
>>530382575Saddam was in an ape vs ape war, this is a human vs ape war and humans are stronger.
>>530382357Did dropping Agent Orange on Vietnam cause rural people to support America or the opposite?
Bomb the water facilities and blockade the gulf, pressure Iran's neighbours to close their borders to stop arms from Russia and china. Then I would assemble 1+million man coalition and invade through afghanistan corridor and ideally have other fronts of proxy forces/rebels attacking from other fronts. War would last years and casualties of 50,000+ but could be won. The hard part would be selling the war to the public, as there would be very little benefit to knocking out the current regime. It would only really benefit Israel.
>>530381271arrest every zionist in the us federal government is the best way to win this war
>>530381271Easy 2-steps strategy.First thing I would do is try to make peace with whoever lives there,it's clearly way above my amerishart paycheck. If that doesn't work I proceed with Plan B, that is to fuck off back to my country and take my army back home.
>>530382575>we never got to see the Neo-Neo-Babylonian EmpireIdk much about Iran Iraq war though, why did Saddam fail? I know he used extreme tactics and heavy chemical weapons
>>530382786Also the US couldn't just build up forces in Iraq. Eastern Iraq is msotly Shia. It would requirre the US to reinvade IRaq and occupy parts of Iraq filled with Shia insurgents. Its very difficult. But the alternative is a naval invasion, which would be 10x more difficult. IT would require a full mobilization of American youth into conscription, and economic mobilization. Something I don't think is politically possible.
>>530382960From a non-personal standpoint, I think the issue was at a broad strategic level and not with any particular tactic.Similar defoliant chemicals worked well in Malaysia for Britain.
>>530383087>planning to let isreal exist until 2080lol what a dumbass golem. That's why he failed.
>>530382960Shh... let the shitskin think the way God made him.
>>530381271Send in Indians
The only good access is via afghanistan. Mutts have to re-enter Afghanistan to successfully invade Iran.
>>530382470>Conquer the West (get 25% of its population)>Conquer the North (get 75% of its population)>Then go conquer the desert!>Then rush to empty Baloshistan!>Then finally end in the Makron desert to see the Makron sea!Very Alexander inspired.
>>530383138Regardless of politics, what would be the solution?I think only ground invasion is viable.Sea invasion just seems like suicide or will only be possible with numbers too small to matter.Even Britain in WWII invaded by land primarily as they occupied Iraq and a corridor to Egypt.
>>530383244Israel was/is the strongest nation in the region.
>>530383087the Initial invasion by Iraq, which was a armored assault supported by air and artillery fire, was somewhat successful, but eventually Iran was able to mobilize and through attrition warfare weaken the Iraqis and reverse Iraqi gains, and pushing into Iraq. By 1980 Iraq pushed Iran back to the border that existed before the war started and they signed a White Peace. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_invasion_of_IranThe main motivation of the war was IRaq wanting to annex Arab majority areas in southwest Iran in order to make a stronger Iraqi state that could militarily unify the Arabs like Bismark did in Germany and Garibaldi did in Italy.
>>530383318Well thought>90 million Iranians>vs 1.500 million IndiansHowever the Indians would have to pass through Pakistan first.
>>530383395>Regardless of politics, what would be the solution?The solution is for the US to try to pursue a white peace with Iran. Its the best case scenario at this point.
>>530383462How? How did you arrive at that conclusion?
>>530383087i read "Saddam's Generals: Perspectives on the Iran-Iraq War", and the jist of it was a combination of bad military structure as a result of saddam, and iran vastly outnumbering them in manpowersaddam may have been very smart, but he was still a backwards tribal with no formal military education. the result was that 'heroic' or 'brave' actions (ie stupidly suicidal) taken by commanders were rewarded, while anything considered cowardly like retreat was punisheda lot more nuance then that, but you can imagine the issues that might cause
Imo only the southern coast matters here, I’d build up in Iraq while the air war is ongoing, then co-ordinate with Arab allies for an invasion that would enter the oil fields and go along the southern coast to eventually meet up with an amphibious force arriving in the south-east.Perhaps after an initial invasion Azerbaijan and Kurds could be convinced to join in from the north-west.
>>530381271>politics asideofftopic
>>530381271The green areas are the only ones of value. You make a quick 1-carrier-task-force landing at Kharg, Bushehr, and you use the Airborne to blockade Shiraz from the rest of Iran. To the east, you make a D-Day landing across the Strait and annex that area. You now control transit in the Red Sea and Iran's oil. Since we're not doing anything retarded like bringing democracy and republicanism to the shieet Arabs, you can stop here and let Tehran literally starve as they have nothing to fund that useless eater city without the oil on the opposite side of the mountain range that you just captured. It is more difficult for Iran as a 3rd world army to invade your new posessions over the mountain than it is for you to supply the annexed Iranian coastline. Chang hoes mad. Ivan hoes mad. West Euro hoes so mad it might induce their dried up egg cartons back into action for the BALSAC>BIG>AMERICAN>LIBERATION>and>SUPERIOR>AMERICAN>COCK
>>530381271this fucking thread again? clearly a data mining shit, are zogbots really that desperate that need the opinion of a BUNCH OF FUCKING AUTIST, LEL. GET FUKED KIKES
>>530383954>Imo only the southern coast matters hereBy this logic all the US needed to win the war in your country was hold Saigon.
>>530383886Who is stronger?Israel is very tough regardless of political issues.
>>530384091You need a clear strategy American tactics were never the problem, grand strategy was.Vietnam has a superior grand strategy which eventually prevailed. You guys were the RTS players, we were 4X gamers
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>>530381271I would zerg rush it with goyim. They require zero mana to summon.
>>530383490It seems he copied what Britain basically did as well in WWIIJust inferior because he was arab
>>530384068and then you woke up and clapped about your genious plans ha ha
>>530381271This question should have been asked before the first strike, Mr. Hegseth.
>>530384091Vietnam is not an oil baron and your win conditions in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan were regime change.If you simply accept that there will be a humanitarian catastrophy in Tehran, capturing the oil fields and establishing a firebase on the Iranian side of the Strait satisfies immediate goals and letting the Tehran government simmer in isolation from the oil fields will collapse them how Assad's government collapsed in Syria. No money = no love, so to say.You just have to make some backroom deal with east Asia that you will legit sell them the stolen Iranian oil as if it were legal. China will literally NOT care if you sell them oil no-strings-attached, they themselves are embarassed to have to use medieval ultrareligious regimes as allies
>>530381271I would do a beach landing. I would also make a trailer announcing my beach landing. I would then send my landing ships through the red sea so everyone can tremble at the sight of American beach landing superiority.
>>530384235To be honest Iran is like the worst country to try and defeat with Nukes.It’s like a giant bunker.You need to think like a siege commander.Surround them, cut them off from supply, then starve them out.This is why sea control is important and why the USA is mistaken to leave the gulf open for them to harass and contest.You need to think like Britain in WWI, totally crush their ability to operate in the Sea. Bring the entire US Navy to bear here and take over the gulf/nearby coastal zones.There will be losses but this is the safest and most effective option.It also gives the USA leverage over the gulf unlike it has now, which will cripple Chinese ambitions to possibly invade Taiwan in the meantime as while their civilians don’t need oil so much, their military does DESPERATELY. I’d also basically take over the meme gulf states, do a full vassal takeover there and get them totally under control.
>>530384310Shush, eternal bombing victim.WE are on the right side of history, YOU are the political whore of a hapless Russian army that can't keep its vassals safe from girl genocide
a ww2 style campaign methodically sweeping across Iran requiring mass conscription and a massive industrial effort is about the only feasible way to accomplish this
>>530384462This is the best idea here <<
>>530381271>Politics aside, and purely as an armchair military thought exercise.>How would you carry out an invasion of this country? >What goals would you have and what strategy would you follow?The only way to win would be to walk away.Unfortunately for us Israel wont allow that to happen and they want us to carpet bomb them continually for years. This will cause incredible civilian casualties and incredible hardships and harden every survivor and make them hate the US and Israel even more.This will be a never ending war, anyone and everyone in Iran and surrounding countries will hate Israel and the US even more, this will be a war that the US never recovers from in many different ways.
>>530384114I think Israel without the US would be owned by fucking Syria.The Syrians spend 15 years in civil war or something. Can you imagine Israel going through some of that? Look at Yemen, three times bigger than Israel in population... The two major powers in the Middle East are still Iran and Turkey. With Egypt and the Gulf Monarchies considered as one vying for regional power status as well.Israel has nukes and the USA.
>>530384876Ok, but they DO have the USA undoubtably which makes them strong.In the Iraq Uber Alles scenario, there is no reason to expect the USA to abandon Israel.
>>530384209You literally hid in tunnels until they got fed up.Sure, you won. Congratulations, you even deserved to win.But don't come here say it was your superior military strategy that won the war.Would you say the same for the Taliban?
>>530384965But anon that is not something of the state. That is what is called an accidental contingency. It will eventually disappear (supposedly). It's like saying Japan is a greater power than China beccause they have the USA.It gets only twice as ridiculous if we apply the same logic to South Korea.
>>530381271Id just bomb it until nothing on the surface remains. Have fun rebuilding! See you in 100 years
>>530381876>I think the south-east near the Pakistan border would be best, and the people there are sunni as well as non-persian so maybe they would be willing to cooperate.>India could be a useful ally as well and might even be willing to provide military support however that makes Pakistan a major issue. Of course perhaps Pakistan could be convinced to support an invasion as well but in that case I think India would be upset and Pakistan is unreliable honestly.Everyone around Iran knows that Iran wants to stay to themselves but Israel has constantly sabotaged Iran and use Mossad proxy armies to cause unrest in the middle east and has blamed Iran on everything.Every surrounding country knows that all the unrest in the middle east is due to Israel. Israel wants to take over Iran. There are no countries around Iran that will willingly do this to help Israel, they are going to have to be forced to help Israel. No country surrounding Iran hates Iran, they do not want to invade Iran. Every one of them hates the Jews and USA because the Jews want Iran to fall and the USA is Israels proxy army. Good luck getting any support from surrounding countries without sabotage, sanctions, and blackmail.
>>530384967You have to consider the political game Hanoi played was very effective and a big reason why pressure was so high on the USA.Vietnam generals were effective as totally destabilizing the south, the USA functionally had no control even a few KM out of Saigon.And most of all was the logistics, Vietnam logistical efforts were top tier in all honestly and the Americans couldn’t cope with it.The secret always to Vietnamese wars and commanders is never battlefield superiority, but logistical prowess.It’s how we beat literally every enemy from China to France to America.
>>530381271by bombing Israel back to stoneage and putting them under blocus FOREVER and then, well, this is it, that's the plan
>>530385183This is why India is more reliable since they are more ideologically aligned with Israel and Judeo-America.
>>530381271Short answer is: anyone who sincerely believes we're going to put ground troops in this fucking shit is a goddamn retard
>>530382045>I'd create a cult and commit ritualistic child sacrifice for millennia, create an inbred genepool of schizophrenia-prone goblins and send them out to destabilise functional societies. Then I'd completely take over those destabilised societies and use all their resources to invade other nations like the one in question.The tiny hat tribe have been trying to do that in Iran for years and years. Their propaganda is no match for Iran.
>>530385219Then why have you also been a colony of the three (in Southern Vietnam in the case of America).I don't agree with your take. I respect your victory and preformance in that war though. You won against a much stronger adversary with almost nothing when many thought it wouldn't be possible.
>>530383078>Easy 2-steps strategy.>First thing I would do is try to make peace with whoever lives there,it's clearly way above my amerishart paycheck. If that doesn't work I proceed with Plan B, that is to fuck off back to my country and take my army back home.This is the most logical way to winFuck offLet Israel fight their own warWatch Iran level IsraelBe happy.
>>530385379In every case it was due to disorganization and weak leadership.Once organized we have always been effective, even if that takes time.
>>530382115Their bases are near the dams where they can draw both water and hydroelectric power.Not near the lakes.The lakes would have to be poisoned or the flow diverted via air campaign.
>>530381271>Politics aside, and purely as an armchair military thought exercise.>>>/k/ you moron
>>530385329I want to see my country's map with those graphics...
>>530381271the important parts are along the coast and nex to kuwait/southern iraq. We can easily take those and then iran will have no oil revenue and go back to goat herding.
>>530384072>clearly a data mining shit, are zogbots really that desperate that need the opinion of a BUNCH OF FUCKING AUTIST, LEL. GET FUKED KIKESYesthat is exactly what this isdata mining thread and people war gaming this shit are coming to the innernet to try to get autists to help them out with plans.Thats why i told them to fuck off and leave Iran alone otherwise we get totally fuck't like chuck.
>>530381271conquer the coastal regions where anything of value is through Iraq, pay the Azeri and Turks to create a distraction from the North.
>>530385837Sneed sells feed and seed, which is completely normal. Chuck, on the other hand, sells fuck and suck.
>>530385329How did Alexander do it?
>>530381271Just bomb water and oil infrastructure then wait a few months
>>530384462Regime change has to be the gaol in Iran, because without regime change, Iran can keep using ballistic missiles to target ships. Even in the US occupied part of the straight of Hormuz. Iran has underground missile factories and logistic hubs all over their country.
>>530385950USA needs a Naval blockade honestlyNot leveraging the navy effectively is a massive mistake, all for the sake of avoiding bad press if a ship sinks.America needs not a military draft but a civilian draft.Draft your massive population all working in nonsense jobs or not working at all and put them to work reindustrializing asap.Like a soviet tier mass mobilization of the people and economy. You have a lot of smart and skilled people basically being wasted.
>>530381271Human wave tactics with mutts.
>>530386162>Even in the US occupied part ofment: Even if the US occupied part
>>530381271Turn off their water and food for starters.
>>530381271first i go to israel then start punching everyone out and arrest them for being ugly faggots so iran has no more poor kikes to bomb
>>530384876>I think Israel without the US would be owned by fucking Syria.>The Syrians spend 15 years in civil war or something. Can you imagine Israel going through some of that?Syria was not in civil warSyria was in the middle of a take-over by IsraelSyria was SUPPOSED to fall in the great middle eastern war from 2002-2015 but Syria held off the US, IDF, and US and Mossad proxy armies for 10 years. Nothing they did could Mossad Assad and he kept on making his people hate Israel more and more. This piss't Israel off and they started different tactics around 2014-2015. They started using Mossad agents and proxy armies to constantly sabotage supply chains, water supply, crops, oil and gas, and then pump the people full of propaganda that it was all Assads fault. Then they started the color revolutions and violence that turned into the "civil war" you were told by the news. This was not an actual civil war, this was Mossad agents in plain clothes acting as provacatuers to try to create unrest in Syria to stage coups. They did this over and over, tried multiple angles, created new proxy armies to start killing Syrians, continued the sabotage, all to try to overthrow Assad.It was never an actual civil war in Syria, it was constant destabilization by Israel in order to take over Syria.The same thing happened in Ukraine so "they" could take over Ukraine in order to start a war against Russia to do the same.The same thing has been happening the past few years in the middle east and they've been blaming everything on Iran so they could bomb the fuck out of Iran and take it over too.Tiny hat club needs to be eradicated and all this fighting in the middle east would stop.
>>530384967>You literally hid in tunnels until they got fed up.You are not talking to someone from VietnamYou are talking to a Reddit addicted zog bot at Eglin using their backdoor software on /pol/ who chose the vietnam flag to LARP under today. He is literally on this site trying to get help to war-game how to beat Iran.
>>530386421Iran has not fallen. Israel took over Syria (really the US but okay) via civil war in Syria. Judeo-mutts couldn't Mossad the Assad only because of Russia and Putin. You blame Israel and while I can't say they're innocent, the USA is to be blame for ten times as much as Israel is.What I was saying originally is that Israel is not really a big problem. The USA is.
>>530385890AND the glowie bot pinged this thread for reviewEverybody welcome the new eyes to the threadHey all you government employees and contractorsI hope all of you eat a dick and die, you useless fucking traitors sucking propaganda down like the fuckin vape pens your faggot asses smoke.>muh trump says Iran bad>muh we must protect Izzreel from muh bad oppressor>israel just wants to live in peace and harmony in their holy land like the bible says>see it says it right there in Exodus that...FUCK OFF FAGGOTSIsrael is a fucking plague nation and needs to be nuked from the fucking map and eradicated from Washington DC as well otherwise we will always have fucking wars.
>>530381271I would commence a years long operation to besiege it and then a years long campaign to bomb its military to death. Essentially what the mutts were doing but they lacked the will.
>>530381271Seize the oil. Use the mountainous terrain to turn this new Free Persian state into a fortress. Oil money funds this new Persian state and it's new military. This new Persian state advances through Iran, valley by valley, while backed by the US until the Iranian regime is destroyed and only the new Free Persian state remains.
>>530385329Some guy called Alexander did it once with nothing more than some pointy sticks.
>>53038127182nd airborne is helicoptered into southern Kerman province. Small sized excavation equipment and a massive number of Ukranian automated 50cal anti-drone platforms are deployed by cargo helicopter while the airforce and navy provide constant support from overhead. They immediately begin building huge networks of trenches and hide outs. Simultaneously, marines and engineers land at a beach Gurdim near Chabahar bay on the southern coast, they also build networks of trenches and hide outs. We fly apaches for further drone interdiction when ground forces can secure against manpads. We drop leaflets on the port of Bandar Abbas urging civilians to flee while staging landing ships across the straight. But thats a ruse, we send helicopters and mountain division up near the mountains near Yazd to do a similar fortification scenario. We basically lock down these areas because they are remote and have large expanses of plains where it would be almost impossible to mass armor. This even makes it hard for the enemy to launch FPV drones because the drone team would likely get picked up by AI vision on overflying US drones.You basically use guerrilla tactics and Ukranian-Russian fortification tactics against the Iranian regime. You don’t try to take large cities. Instead you enrage the decentralized IRGC and basjii forces and bait them into attacking US forces that are now operating in sprawling underground fire bases, old mines, etc. When the initial Iranian attacks relent, you deploy special forces drone teams to the outskirts of major cities and use FPV drones to target regime security forces in bit and run raids. You rinse and repeat this as needed. You say that if 500kg of uranium are delivered to you, you’ll leave. But it’s likely once large swaths of Iran are no-go zones for the regime that the nation either rebels against the regime or breaks down into warlords. Anticipate at least 500KIA and 2000 wounded US troops in three months.
>>530388755>But it’s likely once large swaths of Iran are no-go zones for the regime that the nation either rebels against the regime or breaks down into warlords.>Anticipate at least 500KIA and 2000 wounded US troops in three months.check'tnice Chat-GPT response minus the last few linesspeaking of those, the nation wont rebel, they literally chant in the streets death to the JewsGuess whatThey view America as "the Jews" as well.The Jews are trying to take over Iran, there is nothing you can do to un-do their way of thinking. There is not enough propaganda you can feed them. They are heavily entrenched in their beliefs. They may not like who is in power in Iran, but they will pick that person long before they ever take side with Israel, the US, or anyone from the west.
>>530381271I would simply bomb the mountains until the mountains became flat.
>>530385777Checked. I asked Grok for a shaded relief view of Portugal from space and it deleted Spain! Wtf Grok!
>>530381550You mean synthetic aperture radar?
>>530381271>How would you carry out an invasion of this country?Like this.
>>530381271First of all, I would read the history of those who tried to invade Persia in the past.
>>530394043>First of all, I would read the history of those who tried to invade Persia in the past.
