I'm catholic and I unironically think priests should be allowed to have sex and impregnate women
>>530394999That's what confession is for
>>530394999100% gay
>>530394999What kind of narcissist would want their gym and black tank top pic to be how they're depicted in media? Who the fuck would tell the media about their decision to suddenly have sex? How the fuck did the article get made?
1 Cor 7:7>all fields
>>530395252A fag
>>530394999Sorry but once the Pope makes a decree he can't take ir back.We are paying for the sins of corrupt middle age priest
if only there were Christians who thought it was ok for priests to marry
>>530394999Martin Luther posts on/pol/?That boy got prime nunussy.
>>530394999Historically they could but we're not allowed as the nobles feared they would centralized to much power through dynastic lineages
>>530395416Oh no, but what about all the gay rituals and praying to not God? I seriously don't understand Catholics and their hatred of prots. Most catholics only seem to continue with the pope and church because of family tradition but they all aren't true "Catholics".
>>530394999Priests back in the day used to castrate themselves to avoid temptation. It was so rampant that it almost killed the religion.
>>530394999>priests should be allowed to have sex and impregnate womenThey are allowed to do so in Eastern Orthodoxy if they were married before becoming clergy.
>>530395416Yeah but protestantism is ugly
>>530394999They used to be able to until catholics broke off from Christianity
>>530394999
>>530396606
>>530394999You typically make ugly dudes priests. Like in the past all of you incels would have been priests or front line soldiers.
>>530396230Lutherans have pipe organs and the traditional liturgy.
>>530394999Catholic priests were able to marry till around 10th century or something, but I disagree, priests shouldn't marry, prottie pastors are sleazy scum fucks only in it for the pussy, they should all be shot
kuffar eternally btfo.imagine rewarding your most pious dedicated studied adherents with...TRVECELDOM LMAO!just like banning cousin marriage, it was just so the church would get more inheritances by default. at one point the church owned like a quarter of the continent.what a bunch of good-goy faggots catholics are!
>>530394999all those Catholic priests are gay.
you can absolutely live without sex and god doesn´t tell you to not have sex. matterfact he tells you to be fruitful and multiply.what´s wrong with catholicucks?
>>530395138lel
>>530394999The only reason for celibate was for the Church to keep proprieties for itself, see what judaism says about priests and families to see the difference
>>530394999so did Paul
>>530394999that seems like an intentional trick. like telling Hindus to worship cows and Muslims to marry their cousins.another group I heard about said that the more devoted priests should be the biggest bachelors in the whole system. the pick of best wives should be granted to the one that studies the hardest and is the best respected priest. rather than the .. construction worker or whoever else.where do the best Catholic wives go? who marries the Catholic women if not the priests? what is the exemplar of the ideal Catholic man?I'm genuinely very curious. you would think it'd be the priest, and thus the motivation for pursuing that path. who else if not him?
>>530394999Become Orthodox.
The Preist in the Latin Rite are offered up as a sacrifice by the community, church and family of the Priest to God and the Church.A celibate priesthood has been allowed longer then anyone can remember.Shame upon any Eastern Christians engaging in this thread for denying the validity of this tradition. Infact allowing Latin Priest to marry would have been disastrous for the Western Church with divorce looming and would have scandalized the Laity far worse then the abuse crisis.
>>530394999You know where the no sex rule comes from? You know that it was not always like this?Back in the days priests banged bad bitches left and right. They had lots of children and the church had to care for these children. The costs went up over decades till they reached a point where the pope said "stop this shit, their dicks costing us too much money". Then he banned sex for all priests.It's true, do some research.
>>530397987Shame on you to try and dictate the Traditions of other Rites. The Orthodox whine night and day about the Latin Church trying to latinize them then they become the accuser hurling Slander at their brother. The Lord Said though shall not Bare False Witness and what do we find but False Witness. The Lord said though shall not Covet they neighbors goods but here you are counting the pieces.
>>530394999I also. Saying no women has led to systematic patterns.
>>530398262doesnt matter, it was over for y'all from this day
>>530398262It's because Catholic Priests are supposed to be LARPing as Christ stand-ins and since Christ was an unmarried virgin - to be more like him they go celibate
>>530394999I would agree except I already know some foid will succeed in co-opting the clergy with their pussies.
>>530398262Source?Or did you just make that up.Synod of Elvira (c.305)(Canon 33): "It is decided that marriage be altogether prohibited to bishops, priests, and deacons, or to all clerics placed in the ministry, and that they keep away from their wives and not beget children; whoever does this shall be deprived of the honor of the clerical office."Council of Carthage (390)(Canon 3): "It is fitting that the holy bishops and priests of God as well as the Levites, i.e. those who are in the service of the divine sacraments, observe perfect continence, so that they may obtain in all simplicity what they are asking from God; what the Apostles taught and what antiquity itself observed, let us also endeavour to keep [...] It pleases us all that bishop, priest and deacon, guardians of purity, abstain from conjugal intercourse with their wives, so that those who serve at the altar may keep a perfect chastity."Among the early Church statements on the topic of sexual continence and celibacy are the Directa and Cum in unum decretals of Pope Siricius (c.385), which asserted that clerical sexual abstinence was an apostolic practice that must be followed by ministers of the church.
>>530394999What would be place for gays in catholic society then? I'm serious.
>>530398615exactly
>>530398522This is how they twisted it up but in the end it was about child support.
>>530394999Voluntary celibacy is like a super power. Engaging in it periodically is massively beneficial to your life if you have big goals.
>>530398773Are you a Lutheran?
>>530394999They were infiltrated and subverted by homosexuals in the 60's. You don't hear about them diddling little girls.Fags destroy everything.
>>530395138kek
>>530394999He try to appear stong but his will is weak.
>>530394999its humorous that rabbis can have families but christcucks can't. so much of the legend of jewsus is designed to damage gentiles and make them noncompetitive. the kind of dysgenic pressure its had for thousands of years on gentiles is very sad
>>530398773This Catholic hating German shows up like it is his day job with the intent to hate on Catholics. He does it day and night. He is demonicaly obsessed with the Catholic Church.
>>5303986161074 ADPope gregor VIII will not do your research
Peter had a wife
>>530398396The Latins departed from the Church 1,000 years ago. So as far as their "rites" are Orthodox I commend them, and as far as they are not I denounce them. I recommend anyone earnestly seeking the Truth to come to His Church.We're a little beyond "whining" about Latins literally martyring Eastern Orthodox 200+ years ago. The last 50 years have been sufficient to say we don't have that much in common anymore.
>>530398854They were infiltrated in the 1930s by whacko Socialist who intentionally filled the Priesthood with the worst people to intentionally weaken the Church leading to the mass infiltration in the 50s-60s.Then Paul VI The Hammer of Tradition wrote Humane Vitae and like 1/4 of the Priest left the Priesthood.
>>5303949992000 year humiliation ritual
>>530399095How about you take your traditions and go back East and mind your business like you claim you want the West to do.
>>530395534I've been noticing alot of caths and shilling towards them lately... wasn't there some kind of scandal involving popes diddling kids going back decades that was covered in the early 2020s/Late 10s? It all feels... so inorganic. i could be wrong, Scamdemic did happen but still.
>>530394999if the priest wants your opinion wrt making an important life decision i'm sure he'll ask you for it.
>>530399207NoThe vatican apparatus did a big shell game of shuffling around priests who were abusers in the last 50+ years but most of the oversight and knowledge of events was confined to the locale they were from and the bishops there
>>530394999Nice trips and glad he had the morals to leave... better than the other 99% who don't remain celibate and yet are still priests.
Lot of gooners justifying their disordered lives ITT>Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, Nor the effeminate, nor liers with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers, nor extortioners, shall possess the kingdom of God. (1 Cor 6:9-10)>For I would that all men were even as myself: but every one hath his proper gift from God; one after this manner, and another after that. But I say to the unmarried, and to the widows: It is good for them if they so continue, even as I. But if they do not contain themselves, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to be burnt. (1 Cor 7:7-9)>His disciples say unto him: If the case of a man with his wife be so, it is not expedient to marry. Who said to them: All men take not this word, but they to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs, who were born so from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, who were made so by men: and there are eunuchs, who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven. He that can take, let him take it. (Matt 19:10-12)
>>530399044Is there any evidence that he had sex after he became an apostle?
>>530394999priests are allowed to marry and have kids in the Bible, it’s only the Catholic church that is weird about it
>>530399351Still calls himself a priest, probably still wears the uniform
>>530399165Yeah, I don't really spend any amount time interacting with Catholics too much or evangelizing to them. Usually if I talk to one about Orthodoxy at all it's because they've already visited our Church. And outside of one schizo who would drop in for Vespers because his TLM didn't have them anymore, the exchanges are usually respectful. If I see an anon saying they like Orthodox beliefs like this guy then I will recommend they come and see. "Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house."
>>530394999you're probably hindu or something tho
>>530399207The Abuse crisis mostly ended under Benedict and Francis.Catholics will very readily tell you about it but you probably wouldn't understand most of it.tl;d Catholics had their own Epstien and he was finally cornered and removed by Francis of all people. After that the Church put all his people in backoffice miserable jobs to keep them away from the levers of power. The American Church has been undergoing a quiet purge since 2019 with 2020 and the lose of USAID delivering death blows to the Pedo Cabal.
>>530399095>>530399165What's this, more Brother Wars?Stop it. Jews hate us, our nation's are flooded with foreign bodies who want to rape our women and kill our sons, and you two are arguing about theology. This is why we are losing. Love thy brother first. After we arent being overrun and suffocated in our own homelands, we can debate philosophy, religion and politics. No More Brother Wars.
>>530399662I appreciate you sorry for being rough but I deal with it enough. May God bless you and keep you safe in these times.
>>530399817Based. Love to see it.
>>530399118Jews put faggots in every institution they want to destroy and it works every fucking time.Homosexuals should unironically be scourged from the face of the earth.
>>530399969Im not catholic but this is correct. Great Commission churches, Dispensationalist, Schofield, Vatican II, etc. This is their weapon. We MUST find a way to stop this from occurring, brothers.
>>530394999that's cause you're a coombrain who is a slave to your lust. Burn in hell kike
>>530398262which pope?>>530398522well then it sounds like a trick.>>530397857
>>530394999Plot Twist: He's a faggot.
>>530394999Priests should only be allowed to have gaysex and impregnate boys
>>530400597The Priest is married to the Church.I've been to a priest first mass they bring the Mother forward to hand her son over to the Church and it has the air of a wedding. The Catholic Church has Rites within it that allow Priest to Marry such as the Eastern Catholics. The demand for priest in the Latin Rite is a MODERN problem. For the previous 1700 years it was accepted without question that Latin Priest didn't Marry and if you even brought it up to the average peasant they would consider burning you at the stake for heresy.I especially don't care what Germans have to say on the matter and honestly no one should.
>>530398200Sneed sells feed and seed, which is completely normal. Chuck, on the other hand, sells fuck and suck.
>>530394999Then convert to Orthodoxy, dumbass. The Catholic Church was concerned with clergy's children having claim to church property, period. /FUCKING THREAD.
>>530394999Anything to reduce the preponderance of homosexuals and incels weirdos in the clergy would be good
>>530394999Sex or wants to have a family?it's an option and it's usually why older men join not younger.
>>530394999catholocism is bullshit that made sex the original sin even though god said be fruitful and MULTIPLY prefall, and there is new testament example for god approved sex within marriage and it says a ministers SHOULD be married with a family because being a steward over a family is good practice for stewardship over a church. so invetested are they in this lie that they need to make up from whole cloth the idea that mary was also divinely conceived so born without the taint of sex when the bible doesnt even hint at such a thing. the actual original sin was adultery, the mixing of unlike kinds and the fall of man and the fall of angels is the same event recorded in gen 3 and gen 6 it was adultery
>>530394999Those delts are suspicious. 70% chance of being a roidtranny.
>>530394999priests are allowed to have families...generally being a priest is not like in those strict orders by a monastery. thus dude left priesthood because he wants to have sex with lots of women and he probably did. look at his gay ass pictures.
>>530395138KEK MATE.
>>530402791>catholocism is bullshit that made sex the original sin even though god said be fruitful and MULTIPLY prefall> Tell me you've never read the Catechism without telling me you've never read the Catechism. Here buddy, educate yourself. The original sin was, and has always been described as disobedience. https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM
>>530395514Orthodox priests could if they got married before taking their vows. My family were all Russian Orthodox priests in St. Petersburg. Things were going great for us until, you know.
>>530403825https://voca.ro/1oySjQMWZAKT
>>530394999This guy's a fag, but I agree that the celibacy requirement for priests is stupid. They should be given a choice to be celibate or not, not strongarmed into it. Even Peter had a wife. Isn't choice and still being faithful what Christianity is all about?
>>530404038>https://voca.ro/1oySjQMWZAKTMary's conception wasn't special, otherwise you'd have to argue that the exemption from original sin was matrilinear all the way back to Eve, which makes absolutely no sense. Mary was chosen because in part because of her lineage, which goes back to Sarah, and provides a counterpoint to your argument, since Sarah's blessing was fertility in her old age (so, sex as a positive), but this is in term of historical preparation, how she remains free of the original sin is a mystery of the Faith, she was made wholly as a new entity, despite being of her lineage being important. God doesn't care about temporality. You would learn this if you did read the Catechism, instead of spouting your own interpretation. The view of Catholicism as being sexually repressive is (outside of being true relative to our absurd Only-Fan-era standards) is completely ahistorical, local culture matters a lot more, and many religions which does not seem "restrictive" were incredibly so, purely because they provided a very small stock of sexual practices that were transmitted down and everything else was just barbaric.
>>530404042we cant point to any time in history where there wasnt a massive amount of men who stayed virgins their entire lifewhy shouldn't there be an established place in society for such a person? priesthood sounds like the perfect fit
>>530405529
>>530405529what is the ninth commandment then
>>530394999>I'm catholic and I unironically think priests should be allowed to have sex and impregnate womenIn a marriage to one woman, yes.The Bible clearly sets celibacy to the highest standard, but not as a requirement.Being married to one woman is a requirement that Paul lists for a priest or deacon.More than one?No.
>>530396230Orthodox white clergy has to be married and have children to get ordained at all.
>>530405656Relates to Mary, not to anything Anne did herself. The point is that she was perfect from the very start, pure, a discontinuation of the state of Sin. And a herald of the possibility of it as a state for Humanity.
>>530395252Stein, berg, witz. They're obsessed with the Roman Catholic Church.
>>5304056972514 St. John distinguishes three kinds of covetousness or concupiscence: lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride of life.300 In the Catholic catechetical tradition, the ninth commandment forbids carnal concupiscence; the tenth forbids coveting another's goods.2515 Etymologically, "concupiscence" can refer to any intense form of human desire. Christian theology has given it a particular meaning: the movement of the sensitive appetite contrary to the operation of the human reason. the apostle St. Paul identifies it with the rebellion of the "flesh" against the "spirit."301 Concupiscence stems from the disobedience of the first sin. It unsettles man's moral faculties and, without being in itself an offense, inclines man to commit sins.3022516 Because man is a composite being, spirit and body, there already exists a certain tension in him; a certain struggle of tendencies between "spirit" and "flesh" develops. But in fact this struggle belongs to the heritage of sin. It is a consequence of sin and at the same time a confirmation of it. It is part of the daily experience of the spiritual battle:For the Apostle it is not a matter of despising and condemning the body which with the spiritual soul constitutes man's nature and personal subjectivity. Rather, he is concerned with the morally good or bad works, or better, the permanent dispositions - virtues and vices - which are the fruit of submission (in the first case) or of resistance (in the second case) to the saving action of the Holy Spirit. For this reason the Apostle writes: "If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit."303
>>530394999No sex before marriage, and if you marry then you belong to that women, not God.
>>530394999Catholic priests had to become celibate because they were passing on all of a church's wealth to their children. It's also the source for the word Nepotism, nepote being italian for Nephew, as priests and cardinals and even the pope were having illegitimate children but claiming them as part of the family as their nephews or nieces, and passing on important roles and wealth to them.
>>530394999>Catholic priests>sex with womenThe whole tradition exists to give fags something to do in society
>>530406024https://voca.ro/1dURbfjaGIsS
>>530406266>muh traditionGod is real you dumb pleb.
>>530394999>actually leaves the priesthood instead of staying and fucking whores anywaysThis guy is a better priest than 99% of actual priests.
>>530394999No. First you allow priests to marry.Next thing you know, you have foid pastors, and your religion is literally gay.
>>530405529what's Sarah's deal? is it the same Sarah that might be part of the name Israel? princely or something?or is it the Saraswati river that the (A-)Brahmins lived next toANY clues are welcome, I'll follow rabbit holes wherever they lead>what's Sarah's deal?
>>530406347just use talk to text you fucking moron
>>530406766ive considered it but tonality is important for understanding someones message
>>5303949991 Timothy 33 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. 2 Therefore an overseer[a] must be above reproach, the husband of one wife,[b] sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, 5 for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church? 6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil.
>>530394999I would have impregnated some church going teen girl aahhhhh Im coooooming
>>530398262also so the families didnt inherit the priests possessions and the roman church missing out it.
>>530394999Idiot every priest is gay or pedo
>>530398959have you any idea how much damage the RCC caused on germany and its people?
>>530394999Byzantine catholic priests are allowed to marry. Orthodox priests as well. The Vatican is full of homos, unfortunately
>>530395156Funny that a fucking Macao from the favella is the smartest nigger in this entire thread. Wp, anon. You’re 100% correct>he will come out in support of left wing causes soon if he hasn’t already
>>530394999You mean impregnate little boys
>>530395156I'd let him hit
>>530394999He’ll regret it when he gets old like st. Francis. But it’s probably better he left the priesthood rather than just be a shitty priest.
>>530405574monks?a priest is supposed to be a pillar of the community, an exemplar of what it means to be a man, studies the scripture (which during the time we're talking about) was like being a scientist. you want your best and brightest in that role. and you want your best and brightest having kids.at least that's how rabbis treat it.Dr Ed Dutton laments about the loss of that role of vicar, which was replaced by the university, which we also lost. the state used to pay autists to fund their little hermit hobbies in the offchance they invent something genius that helps everyone. we've abandoned all of it. so who fulfills that role now? actors and celebrities?
>>530394999Checked>mexican intellectuals
>>530394999>>530395252>some random isolated incident nobody cares about is posted on twitter>"It's time to for us to have the discussion about changing this [longstanding societal/religious norm] ."Liberal coded.
>>530400167'Brothers-', sure, buddy. Also check out Jules Isaac in addition to Gregory Baum. The teaching of contempt must return.
>>530405574>we cant point to any time in history where there wasnt a massive amount of men who stayed virgins their entire lifea small amount per capitayou have to go back to prehistory dna records to find a large per capita amount of men not breeding. or just look at present current day virginity levels. everything in between was most men having sex
>>530403906Ortofoxy is a joke in general. Your ansestors were part of russian state not part of some religios movement.
>>530406347>https://voca.ro/1dURbfjaGIsSMatthew 12:48 doesn't actually state at all that Jesus was talking down to Mary, but that he put his work above his filial responsibilities, which, you know... kinda follows from him being a martyr... This obsession with sex is very strange. It isn't like there aren't dozens of non-catholic cultures which have heavy restrictions on sexual purity, if you are speaking about certain people (Irish) or certain institutions (like the Ursulines).Catholicism wants to establish a social order. It is a church of the people, not of the book. So yes it does goes way beyond what the Bible states outright, because the Bible is not actually that great of an ethics & politics manual, not unless you squint and look at it from really far. You get the impression the whole is about sexuality because, since the sexual revolution, that's the main question that's been raised in Christian society, but that's not even something specific to Catholicism. Also, I'm fairly sure you assume that the Church takes a much harder stance on whatever sexual issue you think it obsesses about than what is actually the case. That's usually how it appears to me when I speak to Anglo Christians. Thomas D'Aquinas approved using prostitutes, and according to his ontology, which fed scholastic thought, homosexuality is not a degeneracy, but a deviance, and therefore not in itself evil (however God can editorialize, and on this appeared to have, so the Church went that way.)
>>530406654>is it the same Sarah that might be part of the name Israel?Abraham's wife, the "“After I am worn out and my lord is old, will I now have this pleasure?” Sarah.
>>53040820031 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.also2 Now the Jew's feast of tabernacles was at hand.3 His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.4 For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.>5 For neither did his brethren believe in him.
>>530408200>Catholicism wants to establish a social order. It is a church of the people, not of the book. So yes it does goes way beyond what the Bible states outright, because the Bible is not actually that great of an ethics & politics manuali prefer the immutable word of god to the whims of men which are subject to change, for the same reason i would build a house on a foundation of stone instead of a foundation of sand
>>530395138This is the cheatcode that roasties don’t want you to know that you can use too.
>>530408459>immutable word of godSo gospels picked by early catolic church. Rewritten countless times. Also old testament where god is evil or demiurge.
>>530395534I hate protestants, I got into a fight with a midget pastor when I was 16 and literally broke his skull, that mans head was slumped back like a sack
>>530394999>>530404568Visit the other Catholic thread that this one is sliding
>>530394999They are allowed to do so in every denomination except Catholicism. And the prohibition is a Papist invention, not present during the patristic period.
>>530408618https://voca.ro/1yvL7iHIgytf
>>530408459And the Church does too. Every Catholic priest in the world would prefer to have the immutable word of God made manifest to him in order to guide him in explaining why Timmy shouldn't cut his genitalia because of something someone said on the Internet, but it just doesn't work that way/ Since the Catholic institution is the longest standing organization in History, it had to take a lot of stances on these little things, and it adds up if you look back at it.
>>530407691>BrothersYeah and by that I mean white men. Only. We need to stop bickering like children. None of these other groups are my kin. I am all about hostility and contempt of the outsider, if warranted. And right now, brothers, its fuckin warranted.
>>530409258https://voca.ro/1d4u9qbpk27b
>>530394999>kissy face selfiewhat a fag
Why did they even add that rule?
>>530394999Sounds like you protestant now.And yes, no shit, Bible doesn't prohibit this for priests whatsoever. Catholics did. Why? To save fucking money lmao
>>530408992I dont know too much about gnostics but old testament god by all acounts seems evil .For one serpent was telling the truth to eve. Eat and you will not die you will see like we se. God was lying that she will die. There are also plenty of cases of god favoring jews and encouraging genocide of non jews.Gnostic theory that jesus told the truth and serpent told the truth makes more sense than same god being genocidal jew lover and god off jesus at the same time.Old testament could also be jewish bulshit.
>>530394999So like orthodox christiansYou do understand that every other denomination is wrong and we the orthodox are right about everything basically thanks to God
>>530398396>then they become the accuser hurling Slander at their brotherImpressive that you can even see your brother with that log in your eye.
>>530395416Orthodox Christians
>>530394999Did he leave to have hetero or homosex?
>>530411816https://voca.ro/1gVKo9iMa7tP
>>530411816Ah the confusion is easy to see. In old testament days other nations were mostly child sacrificing and intertwined with literal giants and demons genetically, that's why. God of Jesus is same God tht was God of jews of old (who were not same as jews as we know it which Jesus calls 'jews who are not jews but a synagogue of satan'
>>530394999yeah roids make you an even bigger slave to your impulses, the church should forbid drug usage if it doesn't already
>>530395796EO Bishops cant be married though, and the same could be said for anglicans who convert. They can become priests even though married and children. They still have to be celibate though
>>530398616Peak death cult
>>530412074Kek>>530412372
>>530394999The weirdest thing about this is that its not even an original thing, it become a later requirement by the church because of worries about inheritance.
>>530412486based hes currently doing that to you shitskins in israel at this very moment and it rocks
>>530412486
>>530412486>Isaiah 13>A Prophecy Against Babylon
>>530394999https://www.complicitclergy.com/post_publication/john-eighteen-thirty-seven/Reading this blog completely killed my Catholic faith. The awful sordid fact is that the vast majority of priests are homosexual.
>>530394999The Bible says an overseer of the church should be the Husband of one wife. It never called for this celebrate thing they do.
>>530394999>Going to the gym turned me into a white guy
>>530413754A very relevant read on this matter is J. B. Matthews "Reds and Our Churches".Unbeknownst to many, communist and homosexual infiltration go hand in hand. Much like blacks, homosexuals as natural outcasts and outsiders are one of the main groups Jews historically drew their recruits from.
>>530412486tf is wrong with chr*stdemons
>>530415230>tf is wrong with chr*stdemonshomophobia, racism, misogyny and antisemitism for a start, not to mention transphobic af
pajeets should be posting on bharatchan and living on the subcontinent
>>530416657when the last thread you were in blaming pajeets for what is plainly and obviously kikery and i called you out, when the thread was deleted all your posts images showed up as deleted as though you got banned when the thread was deleted but clearly you did not. did you delete those so that it would not be in the archive that i called you out? and i told anons to highlight your ID and look at all the posts you made in the thread how literally every last one was you attempting to launder your own kikery through pajeets?
sorry i don't remember you. i'm always redeeming pajeets and you're all alike
>>530417040https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGPMjyzcqSE
you post youtube videos? is that meant to narrow it down
>>530417191ummm
that's not very helpful is it
>>530417191ummmm>>530417204>>530396988
>>530417303UMMMMM!
so what? your point is what? you want me to stop posting about pajeets? no. you can move on now
>>530407434we know, faggot.
>>530417303>>530417387https://voca.ro/1hszNdCiBj1n
the majority of pajeets on /pol/ try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore
oh you must be upset that your Several Vocaroo Links are now lost like shits in the rain. get used to it, noob. pajeet threads get jannied all the time in mid-redeem. how many people do you think bothered to play those voicemails
>>530417513>>530417698nobody with eyes or even a nose needs to be redpilled on jeets we know they are hatable from how they plainly fucking are, we dont need images redpilling us we dont need a several hour long codex pajeeticus series of youtube videos akin to europa the last battle, they are stinkly brown raperats they arent sublte in their evil like jews often are, the only purpose this shit is serving is to distract us from the primary enemy of mankind, namely the jews and the kikes imported the jeets primarily for that purpose its their modus operandi to import various browns so that we are wrapped up in conflict with them instead of against the kikes who imported them in the first place
who's this "we" you speak forallow me to introduce you to common knowledgehttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/530396988/
>>530418008https://voca.ro/1iUpAxeUrWHj
>>530394999>999You’re not a Catholic. Don’t ever claim to be a Catholic. You’re about as jewish as they come.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/530396988/#530413837>i'm not listening to your offsite recordings and i'm not trying to help you involve yourself. you don't convince me and you're wasting other people's time as well
>>530418348>im attempting to shift the blame from arab mongrel imposter kike like myself to the indians we imported for this purpose! leave me alone!!
>>530418348https://voca.ro/12Ps9PC4fjnY
what if 3rd parties can observe what's happening and compare it to your interpretive dance? is that a good look? i mean it kinda just seems like you keep swooping in to interfere with redeeming, while clumsily claiming to be a white person
It's all fake anyway and it might cut down on the boy love. Why not.
>>530418736>while clumsily claiming to be a white personare you suggesting im not jacob anthony mcqueen? because you appear to be a bald faced jewish liar if you are>>530417347>>530417316>>530417245>>530417108in light of all this evidenced and common sense it really looks like im right about you being a liar and a kike shill
sure sure. i guess you're fine carrying on without my help to validate your presence
>>530418906if the jews were really employing jeets to the degree kike shills claim they are, your anti indian spamming and flooding would get a ton of pushback from said jeets employed to shill here, but you never get engagement accept for from me who is a proven white man, and im calling you out for using jeets to distract from the primary enemy namely kikes
>>530419013>acceptexcept*
who likes dooran dooran
>>530394999Shush, schismatic Orthobro. Pope knows a chaste priest will have the Pauline vigour and determination to finish the race by observing his office, which is Christ's office and is holy. Chastity is a prerequisite for 'presbyteros' -- AKA. 'elders' or priest -- in modern times . . . Why? Because to be mature in the faith as a man, administering the treasures of Jesus, which are His sacraments -- is no thing that any half-hearted effort is sufficient for. Thus, a priest is wed to the Bride of Christ which is the Church -- rather than to a woman, so to rear a family. Instead, as is obvious, a priest has spiritual children instead, which is itself a full-time effort.This incontinent high libido Italian teaches us nothing. He is just a garden variety Italian. He although a priest, has chosen to immitate the world by lusting. Too bad -- Hope he can still be a Godly layman.
>>530419111notice how im consistently the only person responding to you and im not even defending raperats just pointing out it is a distraction. thats because its a distraction just like i said and you arent saying anything dangerous to the kike narratives being shilled around here. kikes hate indians just as much as we do, they arent importing them into our countries because they are big fans but so they can be used as a distraction precisely as you are doing right now
>99% of false flag shit stirring>99% of iran gloating ragebait>99% of ICE gloating ragebait>99% of gaza gloating ragebait>99% of jewkraine gloating ragebait>99% of greenland gloating ragebait>99% of charlie kirk gloating ragebait>99% of iryna zarutska gloating ragebait>99% of faith desecration>99% of voted for it>99% of built for bbc>99% of you won't do shitpajeets, everyonenow featuring 1% jews etc
>>530419284i would literally move to the heart of india and roll in literal cow shit with them if it meant jews were removed from the face of earth
i'm not here for feedback, pest. i'm here to redeem pajeets
>>530419340you are here doing your daily drudgery, your literal fucking job, but instead of bagging french fries or pumping gas you are running a psyop to distract people from kikes by blaming much of their kikery on jeets
>but i see your poo colors shining through>i see your poo colors, i will not redeem you>so don't be afraid to let them show>your poo colors>poo colors are needful, don't redeem bro
>>530419516and what colors are those cyndi?
>>530396606mutts and brown people take AI as some sort of god lmao
>>530394999Become Melkite.
again, pajeet, again, timestamps.nothing ties your pic to this thread. you don't get to recycle pics because that's what pajeets do. disqualification. i'll tell you one more time again because you keep "forgetting," pajeet:timestamp.the simplest way is to write your thread ID. but realistically, nobody ever asked you to prove things with pics. that's just your pajeet eagerness to overdo your scam
>>530394999It's the Spanish blood in you. They were always more interested in fucking than preaching, they'd even give local converts who became priests the right to marry in their various world tourings
>>530419798https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elgKtZlv54w&feature=youtu.be
Good. Reject Abrahamic jew shit
>another youtube insteadnot quitenoyou don't need to keep trying whatever you're trying
>>530420338the video is short and proves beyond a shred of a doubt im white and am the same person from those picture and timestamps you are coping and jewish, everyone now knows for a certainty
all pajeets are working for jews, including the ones who perform antisemitism and say all the things they learned to say on /pol/. they are also serving the jew agenda. how? by speaking english and living in everyone else's countries. spectre, multiculturalism, mass migration, kalergi plan. don't even bother acting like pajeets oppose jews in any way. they support jews simply by their nature, by crowding into every opening gatekeepers offer them to enter the human world and degrade it
>>530395156obviously, he was a priest.
>>530420416you are a proven jewish liar
>>530420416>speaking englishyouve clearly never met a pajeet
there was never any good reason to share a country, a language, or the internet with pajeets
>>530420530you are a proven kike liar running interference, kikes import browns like pajeets in order to distract us by having us contend with these imported brown people instead of the kikes who imported themthat is CLEARLY your goal in these threads to distract us from kikes and getting to deeper truths about kike by talking about pajeets, who are self evidently hateable we dont need to be redpilled on them, just like we dont need an infographic to tell us shit stinks and we dont need an infographic to know you are a kike shill
QUICK OVERVIEW OF OP>immediately claims identity>presents opinion as insider>inappropriate sexualizationdo you think i clicked this thread on a wild hunch, or am i just following patterns
>>530395138KEK
/pol/ can still be the one place on the internet where a pajeet might hesitate to post. the world is waiting for a first step to be taken in solidarity in a microcosm like this. people need an example to show that cultural tolerance is in fact limited by self-preservation, and that hostility can be justified and furthermore celebrated. from there, see the path emerge from tangles of interference to the day of the flush in human homelands
>>530408388they actually never did. they actually had to rewrite the ending in order to make it true. its all quite jewish, even by jewish standards.
>>530420697OP and the OPs of all spammed antichrist kike shill threads NEVER take issue with your anti pajeet messaging and in fact beside me no one engages with you at all in these threadsthe kike ops arent going to interfere because you are their fellow kike running an op to launder your kikery through jeetsanons dont interfere because they are not fans of jeets themselvesi only interact with you to point out you are running a distraction op for the kikesif pajeets really shilled here en mass you would have minimum 3 kikes on you at all times counter-signalling you as i often do but you only EVER get engagement from me otherwise you are completely ignored
>>530420765https://voca.ro/14UCohrqU6Fri might be misunderstanding what you are saying are you claiming they never came around? because two of the books of the new testament are written by jesus literal brothers
>>530420872hes just spamming to bump limit, same as "this is a kike", only no one is ragebaited because there are only like 5 pajeets on the entire english speaking internet
>>530421007https://voca.ro/1gume8wkwJ8x
>>530395138Based
>>530421001theyre written by anonymous jews claiming to be his brother maybe. but how you can be the brother of someone who never even existed? riddle me that mcqueef
>>530421179from the roman historian tacituses annals recorded just fifty to eighty years after the events (the ideal timeframe to record history in)Therefore, to scotch the rumour, Nero substituted as culprits, and punished with the utmost refinements of cruelty, a class of men, loathed for their vices,27 whom the crowd styled Christians.28 Christus, the founder of the name, had undergone the death penalty in the reign of Tiberius, by sentence of the procurator Pontius Pilatus,29 and the pernicious superstition was checked for a moment, only to break out once more, not merely in Judaea, the home of the disease, but in the capital itself, where all things horrible or shameful in the world collect and find a vogue. First, then, the confessed members of the sect were arrested; next, on their disclosures, vast p285 numbers30 were convicted, not so much on the count of arson as for hatred of the human race.31 And derision accompanied their end: they were covered with wild beasts' skins and torn to death by dogs; or they were fastened on crosses, and, when daylight failed were burned to serve as lamps by night. Nero had offered his Gardens for the spectacle, and gave an exhibition in his Circus, mixing with the crowd in the habit of a charioteer, or mounted on his car. Hence, in spite of a guilt which had earned the most exemplary punishment, there arose a sentiment of pity, due to the impression that they were being sacrificed not for the welfare of the state but to the ferocity of a single man. >whom the crowd styled Christians.28 Christus, the founder of the name, had undergone the death penalty in the reign of Tiberius, by sentence of the procurator Pontius Pilatus
Eastern Rite Catholics can marry before they are ordained and in doing so give up the option to become a bishop.
>>530399662Orthodoxy is actually low IQ. It’s missing crucial pillars from the criteria laid out in the Nicene Creed concerning the one visible Church of Christ.It is not One, >Disagrees with Papal Primacy>cant hold an ecumenical council>has no appelate structure for disputes amongst bishops and patriarchsnot Holy,>allows for divorce and remarriage >exists in an active state of disobedience against the true Church of Christ and therefore Outside the ChurchNot Catholicos (Universal)>bunch of random autocephalous national “Churches” >closely tied to culture and nationality(The Greek “Orthodox” “Church” anathematizes the Russian “Orthodox” Church” - so who’s right?)At most, it has Apostolic origins. The Catholic Church has kept the orthodox faith throughout the entirety of Church history. Our burden of proof is not to show that the entirety of the Church believed in vatican I defined papal prerogatives, our burden is to prove that Rome and many in the early church did. >Bishop of Rome considered the highest court of appeal at the Council of Sardica. >Tome of Leo was written and delivered to the council of chalcedon with extraordinary authority and obeyed by the council fathers. >Nestorius was condemned according to the authority and decision of Pope St Celestine.>The council fathers adopted the teachings of Pope Agatho at Constantinople III.All this without the Pope being physically at these councils.
>>530394999>I'm catholic and I unironically think priests should be allowed to have sex and impregnate womenCatholic priests aren't impregnating any women even if you let them have sex.
>>530421294tacitus is an interpolation. we figured that out years ago. guy talks about prefects and procurators for hundreds of pages and then just forgets when that title shift occurred? its absurd. all you have is>jews calling themselves christians existed, therefore jesus existedit all ultimately comes back to jews and only jews, and whether or not your trust them. and christcucks do. they shouldnt, but they do.
>>530421685https://voca.ro/11DDvsOMdj06
>>530421718you should be banned for spamming off topic, i get banned regularly i was permabanned yesterday and im only posting now because i appealed the absurd ban, i have screenshots of seventy similarly ridiculous ban notices ive received over the past couple years
you're squealing in the wrong direction if that's what you need to happen. getting banned literally doesn't mean anything
>>530394999What kind of a religion cucks their most faithful followers into not making more followers with a beautiful wife? It seems silly and for that reason alone Orthodoxy makes far more sense.
one of many differences between modern western civilization and the bug continent. not everything is achieved by spamming population
>>530394999he looks like a narcissist (fag)narcissists (fags) would fuck themselvesnarcissists (fags) would fuck themselves hardnarcissists (fags) would fuck themselves so hard
>>530422172https://voca.ro/1eNJUHkHyZvz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_DVS_303kQthis youtube video proves i am a womanbeyond all shadowings of doubt saar
>>530422288nevermind you are the kike i thought you were, and the video literally does prove im who i say i am as i read out comments and post numbers in this current thread in the video, its proof you are coping
lol i never clicked any of your shit nigger lmao who are you ahahah
>>530422455you know exactly who i am you claim im not and when i provide abundant proof you just go "nu uh"im not trying to prove to you who i am, im trying to prove to the lurkers who you are, and you are helping
>>530421762in "other roman sources"? youre joking right? but not tacitus. and tacitus is who youre citing..its not a simple label change, theyre two entirely seperate offices, two entirely different jobs. one is a military adminstrator, the other is just a regular civilian. these arent simple things you mix up. maybe a christian did, in fact they absolutely did. its like comparing the department of treasury secretary to a regular accountant.youre probably thinking of a praetore, which kind of sounds like praefectus. but procuratores sounds nothing like either of them.. again this isnt some translation issue, so in the case of tacitus its just bullshit. and in the case of the gospels, its the fact that these people were backdating works, werent eyewitnesses, but were just inventing a story which took place in the past, and they fucked up, because theyre jewish, and jews are sloppy and incompetent. but christcucks, somehow, despite that, still manage to find a way to be routinely outsmarted by jews and ignore their thousands of mistakes and inconsistencies.
>>530394999i thought they were impregnating litle boys, can we make up our minds here
writes itself
>>530394999priests should be allowed to. monks should not
what % of ppl will transcribe the youtube url in pic related? let me know what it is, turbo tismos
>>530422637The administration of Syria was intrusted to Caius Itius, and the military forces to Corbulo, to which was added the fifteenth legion, under the leadership of Marius Celsus, from Pannonia. Written orders were sent to the tetrarchs, the tributaries, kings, prefects and procurators, and all the praetors who governed the neighbouring provinces, to obey Corbulo's commandhere in tacitus annals 15 he identifies governors as procurators he does the same here in book twelve here is the latin 60. Eodem anno saepius audita vox principis, parem vim rerum habendam a procuratoribus suis iudicatarum ac si ipse statuisset. ac ne fortuito prolapsus videretur, senatus quoque consulto cautum plenius quam antea et uberius. nam divus Augustus apud equestris qui Aegypto praesiderent lege agi decretaque eorum proinde haberi iusserat ac si magistratus Romani constituissent; mox alias per Suetonius as well describes when he makes his freedman antonious felix governer over rome he calls him procurator
>>530394999So be a lay minister. You don't have to enter the priesthood to serve god.
>>530423056>antonious felix governer over rome>>530422637judaea not rome*
pajeets have been transplanted all over the world in unbelievable numbers. the plan is to homogenize all countries into a single mass of interchangeable, predictable, suggestible consumers whose only loyalty is to the elite and their system of puppetry. motivated not by heritage or ideology (despite all portrayals to the contrary), but by paltry shares of wealth and status in a materialistic world order in which everyone belongs equally everywhere and nowhere
>>530423132https://voca.ro/1bEpRRJZp09Z
God would never want you to be celibate, it's the dumbest shit ever conceived. This is entirely a man made tradition/interpretation. Eve wouldn't have been made otherwise, priest or no priest. The celibacy in priesthood is a ruling class/nobility/royalty made tradition to send their later born sons in order to not compete against the heir and his bloodline for inheritance. It's based in economic and sexual interest, and has nothing to do with god. It's literally no different than chinks making their court officials eunuchs, just men in power removing competition for mates and inheritance.
>>530423729https://voca.ro/17ic0qsnWKWs
>>530394999Biceps is decent, shoulders are shit and his hips are that of a drafthorse.But also decent bodyfat levels, i would assume that those levels of bodyfat arent healthy.
>>530423056because both of those were offices in rome, the problem is syria wasnt under a military occupation like jewdea was. its the distinction between governing puerto rico after the Foraker Act vs. governing puerto rico during the spanish american war. Rome was militarily occupying jewdea, thats why it had a prefect, pilate. but the fictional character deceptively named Pilate, is not a prefect, but a procurator.kind of like how the earth yahweh creates and gives to the jews is flat, whereas the earth that exists irl is not flat. one is fictional, the other actually exists and can be found in reality.just know the difference between fake and jewish vs. real and exists. it isnt hard mcqueef. just be smarter than jews. it isnt asking much.
>>530424629https://voca.ro/1ehO9Bk1TMKn
>>530424629https://voca.ro/1nerfLLkOqlW
>>530424824yes, because he [Tacitus] knows the distinction between a procurator and prefect. they were two distinct offices up until the reign of claudius, which was about 20 years after jesus' alleged crucifixion.Tacitus knows the difference, and the office switches. if you had said here is Tacitus referring to someone after the reign of claudius as a prefect instead of a procurator, then you would have a point, but youre only pointing out that the procurator became an office after a specific point. but the problem is that point was AFTER jesus and the events of the new testament.so what that tells us is that the people writing the new testament (as well as the jewish insertions into Tacitus) were projecting their present environment and structure over the structure that would have existed in the past when the events were alleged to have happened. meaning, they were not there. they were not eyewitnesses. and the insertions into Tacitus tells us they deliberately edited his works in order to insert mention of jesus, and they made the very same mistake. one which tacitus wouldnt have made, because as you pointed out, he correctly refers to other military governors by the proper title, procurator, after the reign of claudius when that prefect role began its transitioning into a civilian role.
>>530425593https://voca.ro/1fURo4SUhksD
>>530425593https://voca.ro/1h31ZvUkhdxb
>>530425688Tacitus was NEVER a procurator, thats the entire point mcqueef. youre so stuck up the jews ass trying to apologize for them in order to believe what theyre telling you is true that youre failing to comprehend what im trying to tell you: TACITUS WAS NEVER A PROCURATOR, HE WAS ONLY EVER A PREFECT.tacitus calls prefects prefects, and procurators procurators. but then theres just this record scratch where what is clearly an interpolated part of his work where jews writing into Pilate's work, one is mistaken for the other, when Tacitus was not mistaking one for the other anywhere, as is evidenced by the rest of his work not involving jews.can you show me an example of him mistaking a prefect for a procurator, other than in that example? if you can then youd have an argument, but you cant. you can only show the inverse, because the prefect office was slowly phased out of existance, and when jews were writing the gospels they wouldve been living under a procurator, not a prefect. thats why they made the mistake. they knew the name of the guy who was governing jewdea, but they were not actually alive to know who he was, what his job was, and were therefore not eyewitnesses. they were LYING. misrepresenting themselves. misrepresenting pilate. misrepresenting tacitus. lies upon lies upon lies, you would think that you would be able to catch them in any one of these lies, but youre so up their jews ass you literally cant do it. its so sad. its right there, plain as day. they sold you a bridge that was never even there. you got scammed kid.
>>530426497>>530425688*PILATE WAS NEVER A PROCURATOR
>>530426497>>530426538damn i just mindfucked myself loljust swap tacitus and pilate and itll make sense
>>530426497>>530426538https://voca.ro/1fbd4e8xDvZb
>>530426650tacitus knows the differencethe screenshot is that pilate could not have been both a procurator and prefect. theyre two titles for the same job, because only one of the two could hold that job. there isnt both a procurator and a prefect, nor was somebody both a procurator and a prefect. there is one or the other. and pilate was a prefect, never a procurator.if pilate was never a procurator, and he was only ever a prefect. then youre trying to say jews didnt make the mistake, both jews and tacitus did, its just common mans jargon. and im trying to tell you tacitus wouldnt have made that mistake, because he correctly distinguishes between both of these offices, and identified everyone else correctly, except pilate. and this is because he used primary sources and had access to actual roman governmental records when writing his annals. whereas the insertion into tacitus upends that previous standard, in an attempt to use Tacitus' name and work in order to create a narrative which aligns with jews and the gospel theyre trying to sell to you.pilate was never a procurator, he was only ever a prefect. people who were living under a military occupation and witnessing these events first hand wouldve known his title, theyre jumping through walls and listening in on intimate conversations like magic, but cant get the guy's job description right? cmon now
>>530427383https://voca.ro/1mWOE4n2QAzH
>>530394999Wasn't the reason they stopped all of that was because the priests were cucking all the men in the village while they went out to work and the wives were kneeling in front of them?
>>530426650>>530427383itd be one thing for retarded inbred kalergi mutted jews speaking aramaic and writing in koine to greek to make this as a simple mistake, but for both of them to make it is preposterous. one is a renowned historian, the other is a deceptive team of people who are at war with you and the entire world who are attempting to deceive you to abandon your gods and worship theirs.the very fact that tacitus' work had to be manipulated, and other famous works like josephus had to be manipulated painstaking by hand one letter at a time just to insert a single sentence or mention of jews, christians or jesus, emphasizes just how fucking deceptive jews and the jews calling themselves 'christians' are. theyre lying to you. and tacitus is a great proof of the lengths they will go to do that. and this isnt an isolated phenomenon, it is a pattern repeated all throughout jewish and christian history, the entire time.from the book of daniel being written in the 2nd century and attempting to portray itself as being written in the 6th century, to pilate in the gospels, to rewriting the ending of mark, to the shroud of fucking turin. its all one closet of lies upon lies upon lies.and you only need to notice one, and then you will be able to notice them all. im trying to kickstart your brain mcqueef, to get you to think from the perspective that jews have been lying to you this entire time, in every form they take, and that you dont have to be a stupid backwater hick, you can be spiritually and intellectually superior to the jews, instead of down there in the gutter with the imbeciles and pedophiles
>>530428156https://voca.ro/15jFmmzFqHRi
>>530394999Nowhere in the bible does it command celibacy in any position within the Church.in fact to be a bishop it REQUIRES being married.1 Timothy 3:>3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.>2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;>3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;>4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;>5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)Catholicism's rule of no married priests is unbiblical and in fact.. a doctrine given to them by DEVILS.1 Timothy 4>1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;>2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;>3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.>4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:>5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
>>530395265Address 1 Timothy 3.
>>530394999>gay faggot woman gossip tabloid shitHope your mother gets drugged and raped
>>530428515you cant hold both titlesif youre a prefect, that title could be transitioned into a procurator.yes, pilate served the 'function' of a procurator, but he was never a procurator. he was a prefect, officially.unofficial sources like jews and everyday laymen might make this mistake, granted, but tacitus wouldnt have. and thats the point im trying to make. 'tacitus' writing about pilate is not literally tacitus writing about pilate, its jews writing *as* tacitus. this isnt some novel thing, its a regular thing they did lol. Areus II's letter in the book of Maccabees is one such example, the khazar psyop is another. jews were renowned forgers. this is what they did. this is how they operated. and the lengths they went to accomplish this is simply incomprehensible to you. what a normal nation might have as a military budget, jews had for doing this. how do you think the bible came about? its all been one operation, one long conspiracy, with goal of conquering and enslaving you permenantly, to force you to worship their god.the distinction between us is i can accept your premise (that jews simply made a mistake) and it would not effect my argument, which is that Tacitus would not have, and therefore someone not-Tacitus (jews) did, writing in the name of Tacitus. i can accept it, because i always consider the possibility that i could be wrong about x or y, rarely do i ever claim to be certain. im open to you showing me tacitus mistook a procurator for a prefect (as opposed to calling a former prefect a procurator) after the reign of claudius, if you can find it, as it would negate my argument..but you cant accept my premise, because it would establish a nexus from which you could see patterns of further intentional deception being undertaken on behalf of other so-called "witnesses", when the reality is there were none, and jews made it all up. but im not trying to get you to reach that conclusion, im only trying to help you take that first step.
>>530394999>priests should be allowed to have sex and impregnate womenEastern Catholic priests and deacons follow a distinct discipline from the Latin (Roman) Rite regarding marriage and celibacy. Married men can be ordained, but ordained men cannot marry afterward.PriestsMarried men may be ordained as priests in most Eastern Catholic Churches, preserving an ancient tradition approved by the Catholic Church.Ordination occurs only after marriage, and if a priest's wife dies, he must remain celibate and cannot remarry.Bishops, however, must always be celibate, typically chosen from monks.DeaconsThe same rule applies to deacons: married men can be ordained as permanent deacons.Post-ordination marriage is prohibited, and widowers embrace lifelong celibacy.This mirrors the Latin Rite's approach to married deacons while honoring Eastern customs.
>>530394999You mean a wife, not just every woman ?This is the case in some Eastern ritesIt leaves them little time, so everyone is kind of on their own similar to the Eastern Orthodox church
>>530430229https://voca.ro/1lrdOlwwhYKK
>>530394999sounds good. my first choice for sex is your mom. not worried about the impregnation, just cum dumping her.
>>530431430i love roman history too.
>>530394999me too>this thread will be pruned or deleted
>>530430740celibacy even after ordination is not biblical.Paul sought celibacy not for the pastors/bishops of Churches, but rather for people like him who were TRAVELING EVANGELISTS.A life on the road as a missionary is no life to raise a family in, but the bishop of a church is planted at that Church, they can have a family, and should because it teaches them to govern over the house of God.
>>530408459The immutable word of God?So I presume you read the original text and not in English? Oh. Yeah I'm sure your particular translation is the right one.
>>530431430procurator was the title at the time tacitus was writing.governors of judea titles by decade (rough estimation)>10 - prefect>20 - prefect>30 - prefect>40 - prefect>50 - prefect>60 - procurator>70 - procurator>. . .>110 - procuratordo you see how that works? how one job used to be a different job, but they fulfill similar duties, despite one being a literal military position like an admiral, vs a civilian position like an accountant?pilate was never a procurator. the very fact that you think he was is from you having trusted jews and pilate's interpolation. but during the time of pilate, procurator was not a position in judea, prefect was. pilate was not there during the procurator era, that came much later, when jews, and later, tacitus, would have been writing. but tacitus knew the difference between the two, as is evidenced in all the rest of his work, and differentiated them properly. only in the case of pilate, because it is a jewish interpolation and not actually tacitus' work. yes a prefect can become a procurator. but that would have occurred after the time of pilate. something implemented during the reign of claudius. pilate was never both, he was only ever a prefect.oh look, wikipedia has the entire list and the titlesmaybe now you will believe me (you wont)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_administration_of_Judaea_(AD_6-135)
>>530394999"I love God, but I can't live without sex from other men."
TRVTHNVKE: Catholic priests don't procreate like Rabbis because it's selective breeding. Jews want only the servile to breed while letting the leaders among the goyim die alone and without propagating.
>>530395416Protestants are capitalist faggot materialist fucks, kill yourself kike. Catholicism with fucking is the most based religion on the planet.
>>530431430>>530432488and i swear to the gods mcqueef if you dont admit you were wrong, you might as well just tell everyone youre jewish and here shilling jew worship and not actually a christian.
>>530399662Brother I was baptized and confirmed Catholic and recently came back into the fold due to finally fighting my demons and finding grace at one particular cathedral with a very theologically motivated bishop that I had the opportunity to hear. In this last year that I'm finding my way back to the flock I went to an Orthodox church. I'm going to finish up this Easter season in the Catholic church just to take part in the church that's been my spiritual home and language for my whole life just to wrap it all up nice and neat. Then I'm converting to orthodoxy. The Catholic church is a beautiful apple with a rotten core, and that core seems to be Rome and the Vatican. Your words are seen.
>>530432902>Catholicism with fucking is the most based religion on the planet.YES! I agree it's so great to have the people most in touch with God not procreating! Such a great practice! I love natural selection so much. For as much as I dislike Jews, you Christians are even retardeder
>>530416391Antisemitism is justified though. Go read Talmud and Torah if you want more deranged schizobabble than Bible but something tells me you follow Torah and is a kikeroach
>>530394999Hey bros I’m done. Kms tomorrow. Tips for painless/succesful methods?
>Historically, the Church enforced celibacy to prevent nepotism. If priests had children, they would try to pass down Church land and wealth to their heirs, creating hereditary dynasties that would have bankrupted the centralized Church.The perfect religion for the braindead boomers that leave nothing behind for future generationsAbsolutely fucking retarded
>>530433063everything i said is justified, the bible is based >>530416391>>tf is wrong with chr*stdemons>>homophobia, racism, misogyny and antisemitism for a start, not to mention transphobic af
>>530433063its a bitch to scour, but the talmud is kino schizo. not quite zohar chuck-e-cheese animatronic hebrew lettered jew angels tier, but its definitely up there.
>>530394999I remember reading a conspiracy theory that the church banned marriages for clergy so long after the founding because the pope who enacted it was gay and was jealous that the straight clergymen could still experience sex with their wives. Explains why priests marrying women was fine for hundreds of years
>>530433354generational cope holy shit lol
>>530394999Isn't that only a rule because priests were giving church land to their kids?
>>530394999the church doesn't care about priests having sexthey just don't want them to get married so they have no kids who inherit their stuff, and instead it goes to the churchit's all about money
>>530433403these are your spiritual masters mcqueef, the same people telling you pilate was a procurator overseeing the execution of the son of the jewish god who rose from the dead, i dont think youre really in a position to be laughing at anyone. i noticed how you ghosted me after i provided the entire list of judean prefects and procurators pretending like you didnt just get fucking rekt
>>530394999Mexinigger>>530395156Based macaco, you will be the last in the gas chamber
>>530433664you got the wrong goy faggotI detest Jewggers
>>530433724carry on then>>530433330this faggot aint invited thoyeah i see you ghosting me mcqueefwheres that christian repentance and the pretend rationality now? its all an act. a fucking lie you have commited yourself to, dragging your soul further and further down into the gutter to rest alongside the jews
>>530433548>it's all about moneyonly poorfags like you and i think like this. no, it's not about money at all in the upper echelons. money is a game they have created for the goys and the lesser kikes. it's completely meaningless on any level that true elites operate on.
>celibacy>from Latin, "celebre" -- lit., MARRIAGE>"sex"Post literacy always coincides with civilisational collapse.
>>530432002Priestly celibacy is a biblically grounded discipline, not a denial of marriage, and it flows from Christ’s and Paul’s own teaching on celibacy for the sake of the kingdom.First, Jesus explicitly praises consecrated celibacy: “there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can” (Mat 19:12). This is not a command for all, but a higher counsel that some are called to embrace. The Church sees priestly celibacy as a structured way of living that counsel: a priest gives himself totally to Christ and his Church.Second, Paul recommends celibacy for undivided service to the Lord: “He who is unmarried is concerned about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord… The one who is unmarried is concerned about the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit” (1 Co 7:32–34). Paul adds, “I wish that all were as I myself am” (1 Co 7:7) and says he gives this as a “concession, not a command” (1 Co 7:6). The Latin Church applies this Pauline ideal especially to those who will have the care of souls.What about “the husband of one wife” texts (1 Tim 3:2, 12; Titus 1:6)? Catholics answer that these show some early clergy were married, but they do not require marriage. The phrase is usually read as excluding polygamists or men with a chaotic marital history, not as banning celibate clergy. Paul himself was celibate while exercising apostolic ministry, which proves that pastoral office and celibacy are compatible (1 Co 7:7–8).Finally, Catholics distinguish between doctrine and discipline. Celibacy is not believed to be a divine command for all clergy; it is a changeable law the Church freely sets for candidates in the Latin rite. No one is forced into priesthood; a man freely chooses between marriage and a vocation where celibacy “for the sake of the kingdom” is part of the call (Mat 19:12; 1 Co 7:32–35).
>>530394999they dont want good men having kids. pretty obvious.
>>530394999>I'm catholic and I unironically think priests should be allowed to have sex and impregnate womenCHECKEDIT'S CALLED ORTHODOXY AND IT'S LITERALLY CANON LAW
>>530429192Widows who make celibate vows are not allowed to remarry (cf. 1 Timothy 5:9-13). Christ lays out a higher calling of celibacy (Matt 19:12). And along with my cited verse from Paul, we see that this is still preached as a higher calling (see the rest of 1 Cor 7). For a first century witness, Justin the Martyr calls it a charism. Now, if we consider all these things, then a man aspiring to be a priest of God would necessarily desire to follow this higher calling, correct? And that is why the Roman Catholic rite requires men entering the priesthood to be celibate, this is part of the charism of the rite. However, if you wish to be a Catholic priest and enter a different rite because you wish to be married, go ahead. Now, who are you to say that a particular rite shouldn't require men to take vows of celibacy in imitating Christ and his call? By the way, you're gonna have to prove>>530432002Because St. Paul explicitly says in 1 Cor 7:32-34 why marriage is actually worse for a man, not better as you state here when you say a bishop of a church SHOULD have a family.
>>530436657>a man aspiring to be a priest of God would necessarily desire to follow this higher calling, correct?no, there is no higher calling of a father than to be a fathercf Canon 13 of the Quinisext Ecumenical Council>>530436290
>>530436929>“The Apostolic See is set over all churches.”— Registrum Epistolarum, Book IX, Letter 12>“As it was my duty to show careful watchfulness for all the Churches…”— Registrum Epistolarum, Book II, Letter 37Gregory didn't want to seem prideful, but to say he didn't believe he had authority over all of the Church is to not known history.
