>>530403242because it's bullshit
>>530403325>because it's bullshitGo back to --> https://www.reddit.com/You fucking clown.
>>530403242Require voter ID while simultaneously making IDs much harder to get.
>>530403242Because there goes a lot of their rigging if it happens.>The dead vote democrat
>>530403325First post best post. This bill does nothing to help people get the correct ID to vote.>>530403408Snowflake.
whose the one hero?
>>530403618That seems like a pretty easy thing to prove, especially since Trump is president. > we don’t investigate election fraud anymore
>>530403529have to make sure only citizens vote, and one vote each
>>530403242You already show ID when you register to vote.
>>530403325Faggotcrat opinion detected faggotcrat opinion rejected.
>>530403682>having a real ID and passport card is complicatedlmao, no its not>inb4 the passport card costs $60if you cant afford $60 per decade then you do not deserve to vote>inb4 blue voters are more likely to have ID than red votersi dont care. i dont vote
>>530403242did you expect them to do anything for white Americans? they will absolutely not and make every excuse for it. or just gleefully laugh at you while they do it. they are your enemy. Don't side with a the Republicans, they aren't off the chain either, we really need to push for some third party candidate. It's not a be-all solution, but it might slow "the family" down.
>>530403890You're talking to meme flags.Gross.
>>530403890And if you have to pay 60 dollars to vote that's a poll tax
>>530403890>if you cant afford $60 per decade then you do not deserve to voteyou hate America, unironically.
>>530403242Why not just introduce a general nation wide id at this point?You got your social security number, your driver's license, your voter id. How many forms of id do mutts need?
>>530403242Why would you vote for a thing that will end your party.Remember Kamala only won 2 States that require voter ID.
>>530403890You people are fucking annoying, you know that?
>>530403242What a racist thing to say about such a racist racism.
>>530403242Show me the AIPAC donors
>>530404086The law only states you need one or more of those forms of documentation. That said, yeah, a national free ID would make sense. But then individual states and territories couldn't regulate themselves, including format and "Real ID" compliance.
>>530403242Dialectic theatre to justify the “opposing side”’s power grab without giving away that they’re traitors automatically by working with each other to reconcile ideologies that are stationary. They don’t work and so the illusion here is unity through compromise which is actually a funny way of stating a third party is getting what it wants while the other two, which is actually one, gets fucked over. This has nothing to do with class or race. It’s by design to slow boil you into complacency and it uses subtle power grabs and shock theatre to steer. If you stop watching media entirely, barely use your phone. This looming psychological mechanism literally ceases to exist from your perspective. The less “unified” you are by convenience, the less overall effect this shit will have on you. I do not watch YouTube or browse x or anything really normie related anymore. The isolation isn’t a problem. These people were never physically in your life, removing them is also removing the stimulation correlated with anxiety. You’re not ignorant for simply removing the source of the problem, as long as you recognize that the problem is by design, and that it is steering everyone you know off a cliff on a societal scale.
>>530403242Pointless waste of time. Even if the electronic vote counting/hacking machine problem were solved (it won't be) the "one retard one vote" voter problem would still remain. Also, I do not trust the people who count the votes. I stopped trusting them years ago. I see no reason to start trusting them now.
>NOOO YOU CANT REQUIRE PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP THATS RACIST BECAUSE MOST NON CITIZENS ARENT WHITE
>>530403242funny thing about this bill was that it actually doesnt do enough to secure voting and would've opened an avenue for illegals to register to vote in a legal way in leftoid democrat states.
>>530403242hang the traitors
Curious, if voter ID laws passed but then Dems won the next election regardless, would they then remove the laws?
>>530403529>Require voter ID while simultaneously making IDs much harder to get.If you think that getting ID is hard, you're a fucking nigger and you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Kill yourself and get aids you subhuman..
>>530404086Id love a your not a idiot ID to prevent a trumping ever again. Something like a IQ test to pass before getting one handed out.
>>530404327Damn we’re 46% whiteOr 46% white, 10% amish
>>530403682>First post best post. This bill does nothing to help people get the correct ID to vote.Kill yourself you subhuman, if you think that getting ID is hard you shouldn't be allowed to choose the direction of the country.
Doesn't matter, Thune is refusing to call a vote.>Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) on Tuesday bluntly rejected President Trump’s call to pass the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act by forcing Democrats to deploy a talking filibuster to oppose it, stating “the votes aren’t there for a talking filibuster.”
>>530404483>>530403529no one actually believes this shit btw.only ones that maybe believe it are retardlicunts.democrats know niggers know how to get ids because they have them to buy alcohol.its that age old>demonrats pretend to not understand something and retardlicunts actually believe them
>>530403242>Democrats are nigger communistsYes
>>530403325fpbp. retarded, tribalistic rightoids will fall for it as easy as breathing though
>>530403890>poll taxyou are fucking stupid
>>530404086>your social security numberIs not "yours" as all social security numbers are property of the social security administration.>your driver's licenseIs not "yours" as all so called driver's loicenses are property of the state.>your voter idNo such thing in America but if there were I'm sure you would not have a property right in that either.Voting lends a veneer of legitimacy to an otherwise illegitimate system. If you vote you are complicit and have no right to complain. If you vote you are part of the problem.
>>530403408>memeflag
>>530403242Did anyone expect they would vote yes? Theyre democrats, fraud and illegals are like 2/3rds of their votes.
>>530403242so did it pass or not with 218-213?
I'm just not going to vote in a compromised system run by Israel. I'm just not going to do it!
>>530404624Every based state in the union is going to make getting proof of citizenship 100000000% harder, and that's a good thing.>Sorry we need your tax records, original copy birth certificate, and a notarized affidavit pledging allegiance to the United states.>That'll be a $2 processing feeBring back the poll tax in one fell swoop as well, get browns out of the booth
>>530404526retarded german who votes 20 years+ for the far left open border massmigration end to atom energry cdu demands iq tests for voting... i am with you because it would prevent retards like you from ever voting again
>>530404029>>530404063>>530404668it works out to $6/year to own a passport card. how fucking poor are you??? regardless, it doesnt matter. youre wasting your time anyway
>>530403529Oh no no he fell for the "black peepo don't have dey IDs" lmao
>>530404859Filibustered in the senate by democrats.
>>530404992so it's a pass vote but won't pass because it will be stalled forever with the filibuster?
>>530403325>it’s bad to disallow migrants from voting not beating the allegations.
>>530403242Fetterman only one who didnt lol
>>530405066We have two chambers of government. Kinda like how the house of lords used to be able to stop the most retarded shitlib nonsense coming out of parlament before tony blair cucked it. Cant really pass much in the senate these days unless its really non partisan or theres some compromise deal to get votes. Thats why the Feds are constantly shutting down for budget issues every few months these days.
>>530404154Lmao go back to rddit you faggot, maga warriors run /pol/
"Voter ID" is dumb as shit and the only people who push for it don't understand how voter registration, first time poll visiting, and democracy work.
>>530403325>>530403682You are pissed because dems need to cheat to win.
>>530405420>Cant really pass much in the senate these dayswhy though?
>>530405586>nooooo it’s dumb as shit to not have basic election protections this single issue reveals so much.
>>530405586I've never heard a legitimate argument against voter id laws. Care to make the case?
>>530404564Don't bother arguing with them, it's a waste of time. They "know" they are better than you and hate you. They will oppose you no matter what as they can't exist outside of a dialectic.
>>530405632Need 60 votes to overcome a filibuster.
>>530405632There’s a type of filibuster that requires a super majority to end (60+ votes). Effectively means any legislation can be hard blocked to require a super majority to pass.
>>530403529Good
>>530405722oof. should just hang all the traitors
>>530405758It’s bad, Congress and their bullshit is the source of all issues in the union.
>>530405758Yes.
>>530405677If they were honest it would be the following:>black people are so fucking stupid they cannot even spell their names correctly on govt documents to qualify to vote. We must reduce our standards for civic participation to the absolute lowest common denominator or else people's uneducated voices might not be heard and that is bad for our "sacred democracy".
>>530403890the democrats only win with bots and that's all they've done is brainwash people to be useful idiot bots for them
>>530405586This.It’s literally a retard flag. Anyone thinking you can vote without any identification has never registered to vote
>>530403325Why is the US the only western nation that doesn’t require proof of citizenship to vote, then?All the EU socialist countries that you reddit leftist fags idolize require Voter ID, why is it “bullshit” for the US?
>>530403325fpbpThey're mad at you because you posted truth.
>>530403242>99.5% of Democrats voted against voter IDthats because its Trumps push to rig the election.
>>530405586So, we should remove ID requirements for alcohol, tobacco , etc.?Also, why require ID for anything?Driving?Professional licensure?Gun permit?Why not just get rid of it all and just stop worrying about borders, and private property, and all those things that you don't like?
>>530405976democrats use the lax voting regulations to rig elections and basically we want to stop that
>>530403325This. Here in Oregon illegals are allowed to get ID and driver licenses.
>>530404086That’s what we’re trying to do. Democrats oppose it because a lot of illegal immigrants vote for them.
>>530403242did it pass or it needs majority?
Any tightening will only be applied to Democratic leaning areas, enforced by ICE in the polling stations likely.
>>530406095Also anyone getting a driver license is automatically registered for mail voting (the only voting we have).They aren't supposed to register illegals for voting, but honestly that's between the state government and the illegals because it's not like any of us have access to the voter rolls with citizenship status.
>>530403529Can’t buy cigarettes, beer, a car, or a house without an ID. But also omg how are these poor niggerinos gonna vote without ID!?
>>530405996>Why is the US the only western nation that doesn’t require proof of citizenship to vote, then?the DNC opposition to this from a party that wants socialist control of all of society is all the confirmation you need that US elections are a sham.
>>530405066Filibusters aren't immune to closing them down, they can be ended with enough votes.
>>530405996See, a retard in the wild.Registration requires proof of citizenship. Then when you vote you have to say your name and address and can only vote in that district. No one can vote twice in this way.Someone could theoretically do fraud if there are multiple polling locations for district and they know someone on the registry that hasn’t voted and doesn’t intend to (like an ill parent) and they could go and claim to be them. It just happens so rarely it doesn’t matter. Or they could mail in with a forged signature. Again it just doesn’t really happen.
>>530405420>We
>>530406075the democrats want ID requirements on computer devices to save the children from porn
>>530403242so the dems were the good guys all along???? fugg. i'm sorry obama! i'm sorry.
>>530404854Dont forget the dead, a formerly very reliable voting blockhttps://www.judicialwatch.org/election-integrity-update-five-million-names-cleaned-from-voter-rolls-thanks-to-judicial-watch/
if trump won last election then is it really that much of a problem? it was literally his fault for telling people not to mail-in vote. then a bunch of republican old people abstained from voting due to covid fear.the SAVE act also includes a bunch of stupid anti-trans shit. as if THAT is a priority right now.
>>530406094The problem is that dead niggers cannot effectively present their ID to vote.The traditional form of voting in Memphis will be utterly destroyed, not to mention the damage done to other minorities and women throughout the country.Only racist, misogynist, bigoted, etc., etc. White men support Voter ID.Real loving people help them to get government benefits so they can fund their entire existence in America and abroad.Only racist, misogynist, bigoted, etc., etc. White men don't want to pay taxes that never benefit them or their families.>>530406362OH!!!I forgot that!Can't leave robots out of the minority orgy!
>>530405677It is up to the states how to manage elections. This is another power grab by the feds.(Also... Voting is so jewish.)
>>530406291> Registration requires proof of citizenship.Several states automatically register people to vote when they get a drivers license. Those states also allow migrants to acquire drivers licenses through the same system. It’s a loophole. Checking ID during registration is NOT a replacement for voter ID, and you’re a fucking retard for suggesting as much.
>>530406572When migrants get a drivers license they are not registered.It’s that simple. You lose. Go eat your daily paint chip cereal and let the adults talk
>>530403242>99.5% of Democrats voted against voter IDReminder: The smartest zoomer on earth's genius plan to defeat the jews is to vote for this party, lmaoMaybe a draft isn't such a bad idea...
>>530405996Technically speaking, you do not have to be a "u.s. citizen" (a 14th amendment creature) to vote. To be a qualified elector (you know, the people whose votes actually count) you have to be a state Citizen. This voater id thingy is another retarded charade for the unwashed masses.
>>530404086>Why not just introduce a general nation wide id at this point?The Democrats would oppose it. The Republicans could propose giving every single American citizen a totally free National ID that they could use to vote in secure elections, and the Democrats would oppose it even more than they oppose this act.Literally every functional citizen in America already has some form of ID that would be perfectly acceptable to vote under the SAVE act. This idea that there are huge numbers of black people with no IDs or that it's some kind of major burden on people to require IDs is complete horseshit. The Democrats want to make it easier for people to cast fraudulent votes in elections. That's literally all there is to their opposition. Requiring people to show ID to vote makes it harder for them to cheat and rig elections, so they oppose any requirements about showing ID.It's not a coincidence that the states with the weakest laws about showing ID to vote are also the bluest ones.
>>530403618Dead democrats have been voating for so long it would seem unAmerican to try to stop them now.
>>530406485>Its ok if some state run utterly fraudulent elections thus negating the votes of all states.Sorry anon but that a terrible argument.
>>530406692That’s wrong. There have been several lawsuits in NY state demonstrating as much, and the senate hearing for Governor Tim Walz had him walking back any claims that it did not happen in Minnesota. You’re lying.
>>530406692>When migrants get a drivers license they are not registered.>It’s that simple. You lose. Go eat your daily paint chip cereal and let the adults talkThey are if the check the box(and they do).
>>530406825Well... Voting is a terrible idea that has produced terrible outcomes for generations now. (Fruit of the poisonous tree and all that...)
>>530405976It varies state by state. You are correct in that I could never walk into a polling place in Florida with no ID, no voter registration complete, and vote the same day. Now juxtapose that with a shitlib state like Minnesota where I can walk off a plane from a foreign country, speak zero English, have no proof of citizenship, and submit a provisional ballot that will get used by Dems if the election is close.
>>530406939>VotingI mean universal suffrage democracy. Dumbest idea ever.
>>530406692>When migrants get a drivers license they are not registered.And Santa delivers presents to all the good boys and girls too!
imagine tasking the old ladies volunteering to check ids
>>530407003Maybe so but thats what we have now. Not that even a system of limited franchise would be well served with massive fraud in some states negating the votes of everyone else.
>>530406692>When migrants get a drivers license they are not registered.How do you know?>they're not supposed toAnd so what? They're not supposed to have a job either, according to the law.
>>530406830Demonstrating that migrants getting drivers licenses were being systemically registered to vote?Or are you picking up the goalposts and moving to another topic?
>>530405976Here in Oregon we receive ballots by mail. If someone takes my ballot out of my mailbox before I get to it, they can vote with it, because no ID is required to submit it. If the DMV "accidentally" registers non-citizens to vote when they are getting their ID, well there's no way for any of us to find out about that since it's not public information.
>>530407193Yes you ignorant little shit. There are no safeguards that ensure immigrants aren’t registered to vote via the auto registration program. You niggers are so fucking stupid.
>>530407133How do you know? I would expect charges and paper trails, and somehow out of ALLLLL this fraud only like 5 people per year can be found. So when I say it does not happen is because there are plenty of motivated republicans trying to find evidence of this stuff, and they come up empty handed
>>530407424>I would expect charges and paper trails,Yeah, I'm sure Democrat states and jurisdictions are going to go after the scam keeping them in power. You are very smart.
>>530407133So increase funding for enforcement then. Creating a new law that does exactly the same thing as an existing law won't do anything.
>>530407313https://www.justice.gov/usao-edmi/pr/chinese-national-university-michigan-charged-illegally-voting-2024-electionAnon that would never happen!! Safe and secure! Best in the world. 100% confidence in fact
>>530407313There are no safeguard for me taking a shit in your mouth. Must mean that I do it every day right?The safeguard is that it’s illegal and you can go to prison.That’s why it doesn’t happen. But stop playing MAGA fairy tale and go find evidence instead of ‘b-b-but it cooouuullddd happen I swear!!!’
>>530407424How are state officials going to charge themselves for malfeasance. You’re a retard and don’t understand how the US system works. You’re use to some backwater authoritarianism government that pronounces and decrees. >>530407586Notice how fucking retarded your response is? It’s because you know you’re an idiot arguing a bullshit point.
>>530407133Voter registration only requires proof of residency which driver's licenses fulfill.You have to sign that you assert that you are a citizen when registering to vote, but there are no actual checks against this. The states issuing the licenses also block anyone from checking the voter rolls.The door is wide open for fraud and it's foolish to think it's not happening.
>>530407424Shut the fuck up>>530407585A woman had her fucking dog vote in multiple California elections to show what a farce their "election" are in realityhttps://orangecountyda.org/press/costa-mesa-woman-charged-with-five-felonies-for-illegally-registering-her-dog-to-vote-casting-mail-in-ballots-sent-to-dog-in-two-elections/And the only reason they caught he was she was broadcasting it as a warning
>>530407586>Starts flipping out about feces consuming
>>530407097The whole system is fraudulent. Making the unwashed mass of retarded voters "show a government issued id" before they're allowed to "vote" will solve nothing.
>>530403242How could they win with voter id enforced by law?
>>530403529Yes please. Universal suffrage is fucking retarded.
>>530407755“Illegal thing is so rare only people fantasizing about it happening are the ones committing it” Yawn. Vote fraud derangement syndrome
>>530407826>The whole system is fraudulent. Making the unwashed mass of retarded voters "show a government issued id" before they're allowed to "vote" will solve nothing.gotta start somewhere, bruh
>>530407921Notice how you keep repeating the same claim despite there being resounding evidence that the system is full of abused loopholes?
>>530407424Nobody is checking. Oregon is ultra liberal and that of course includes all the bureaucrats.>>530407575There's no way to change the laws about it by voting because the voting is rigged. Or it's almost certainly rigged, but again no way to check and no way to change laws about it in a direction that would cause it to get audited.
>>530407939Why not start with an IQ/math/literacy test then?
>>530407921WATCH THOSE GOAL POSTS FLY!!!!>It doesn't happen >Okay it does happen but it's rare, stop talking about it>The thing that would stop it wouldn't stop it because reasonsMay the malediction of Mel Gibson befall (You)
>>530407672Yeah that's what I'm saying. The whole thing is built on everyone being 100% honest. Which is of course retarded but the old white boomers in Oregon are incredibly naive and stupid about it, and the younger liberals deliberately want illegals to be able to vote (also stupid, but at least they know they are doing it).
>>530403529lol HOW ABOUT you get your shit in order and just get an ID? It aint that hard to get a day off work and go to the DMV. Cant afford it? Sounds like you shouldn't be voting.
>>530408071JUST SAY YOU HATE NIGGERS ANON!!!!!
>>530403325Have you people ever even voted? You have to show your driver's license (or other photo ID) to do it, so WHY is this bill a problem?
>>530403242How is it possible that you can vote without showing your ID at a voting place? I thought this shit was a meme at this point.
>>530403242fake IDs flooding the streets in 1.. 2..
>>530408207>just get an ID bro, dont worry that we made that impossible with this bill ok lmao
>>530403529How hard can it be to get an ID? Here I just go to the local police station every 10 years and file out a form, then get called whenever its ready to pick it up.
>>530407826I mean the only way the system can change is if the fraud is reduced.>inb4 war revolution day of the ropeYeah yeah in the mean time asking for the name on the voter roll to match the name on the ID who shows up to vote isn't some big ask.
>>530408276>You have to show your driver's license (or other photo ID) to do it, so WHY is this bill a problem?No in Oregon you don't have to show anything. It's all by mail. If you get a hold of a ballot - anyone's ballot - you can vote with it.Now yes you are supposed to scribble a signature on the envelope, but that's it. My signature changes wildly every year and yet my votes have always been counted (according to the state government website when I check).
>>530408276Im confused.Are americans required to show ID when casting a vote? If no then why the fuck not? If yes then what the point of thise whole debate about voter ID?In Europe you have to show ID when you cast a vote. Obviously. It would be retarded otherwise.
>>530408269I live in a rural Whiteopia in the woods atop a small mountain. I haven't seen a nigger in years. Seriously though. I think letting stupid people "vote" is not a good idea. (Even if the votes were counted accurately.) Universal suffrage democracy is so retarded.
>>530408495>Are americans required to show ID when casting a vote? If no then why the fuck not?Depends on the state but in some states no. Vote by mail doesn't require any ID. My state, Oregon, wants you to write your signature on the ballot envelope when you mail it in, but that's it.Why not? Presumably because it would make it harder to rig elections.
>>530408301I voted a couple times when I was a kid. (This was like 30 years ago.) Never had to show any sort of ID. They never even asked.
>>530408301A city in California passed a voting ID Law and in response the state passed a law banning cities and counties from requiring ID. The only reason to do that would be to keep commiting election fraud
>>530408598>Voting doesnt necessarily require IDAre you guys retarded? Like for real?Have no you never sat down and thought how fucking bad this is?You lack both reason and logic holy shit.
>>530408207>Can't get a "government" ID without a birth certificate.>Can't get a copy of a birth certificate without a "government" ID.Rinse and repeat.
>>530408598That's fucking insane. Here we have to show up at a voting place, show an ID, sign ourselves into a book while their take our ID details and then they give us a ballot paper to vote on. Those who are abroad can visit consulates/embassies to vote on specific dates or mail their votes to these consulates/embassies with valid passport copies.
>>530408733You’re being lied to.Registration requires ID, multiple forms
>>530408598You need to present ID when you register. And presumably a copy of your signature to compare the ones on the envelopes with. The expectation would be that if your ballot was stolen you would report it.Like sure, someone could steal your welfare check, and use it to buy drugs, but the assumption is that you would report it missing since you wanted it and were expecting it and had to prove that it was you who was asking for it.
>>530408663>>530408733>>530408845
>>530408648>>530408663Yeah that's 100% to cause scams, your country will be much better off with this bill being passed then. Even if it ends up being a stupid choice that voters take, at least you'll know its genuine. We're finally getting a proper digital-backup and fingerprinting technology process here thanks to the international High Representative because the local corrupt politicians tried to blockade it as they kept using dead voters.
So they vote against voter IDBut they vote for ID on my operating system
>>530408733>>530408787Yes most Oregonians are retarded in my opinion. Here we have people protesting against ICE and many people still have those yard signs>in this house we believe love is love, no human is illegal, trans rights are human rights, yada yada yadaOriginally the people making the decisions were mostly these extremely naive Whites who had never met a non-White in their life, and now that we've been flooded by a million or two illegals, it's irrelevant what the Whites say because the majority of younger people are brown foreigners and the children of brown foreigners.
>>530403325>>530403682you dont belong here
>>530408845Then whats the issue with this voters ID debate if voting requires ID.Why is it so hard for you mutts to explain your system in a single post? Whymust every answer either be vague or a fucking mental gymnastic. I could explain EU voting process in a single sentence.
>>530403242>99.5% of Democrats voted against voter IDholy shit you burgers are not serious at all.what the fuck are you doing?
>>530408461>Just make the retarded voaters show an ID before voating. Problem Solved!How does this solve the electronic vote counting problem? (You know, where the real election fraud happens.) How does this solve the problems associated with letting political operatives run the polling places and letting them be the people in charge of counting and reporting the votes?
>>530404735
>>530408953I actually just had to renew my Oregon driver license earlier this year. I specifically asked if the signature I provide for my driver license is used in voting, and was told "no".In fact my signature has changed a lot over the years and it's never caused any problems and my votes are still counted.I highly doubt they are checking signatures at all, or if they are then the workers are overriding it constantly because maybe it shows too many false negatives.
>>530409035Registration is not voting.
>>530408845If registration requires ID, then what's the problem with bringing that very same ID that was required earlier? Here registration is done by ID too in order to assign you an election unit where you go and cast your vote in your local community(ie one part of the city votes in one building, another in the some other building) and this is assigned based on home address which naturally requires the ID.
>>530409112So it's essentially a free-for-all depending on how many ballots are printed?
>>530409037They're so fucking dumb its unreal.Im on my 3rd post now asking how their voting process works and I still havent got a clear answer. Absolut fucking retarded. I dont even think they themselves know how their system works.They only know how to talk shit about euros even tho our system is short, simple, systemic and logical, meanwhile theirs is a fucking mental gymnastic.
>>530409171THEN FUCKING EXPLAIN HOW THE VOTING PROCESS WORKS JESUS CHRIST.DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT NEED AN ID TO VOTE?
>>530403242>99.5% of Democrats voted against voter IDOf course, it goes against the left MO of importing votes and shadier...day...stuff....care>>530403325you need to go back
>>530409112It's likely only used if you report that the ballot, which you asked for and are expecting, is missing.Like the opportunity for abuse obviously exists here, but you are blowing it well out of proportion. If you took the time to register, send all the ID, and ask for the ballot, are you going to then not care if the ballot actually shows up and never report that it went missing?If you are a retard that doesn't care what happened to that ballot you ordered then you deserve to have some faggot vote for you.
>>530404086Because that would defeat the whole GOP purpose of making voting as difficult as possible
>>530409376Bro at the end of this discussion we'll conclude that North Korea has a more democratic voting system LOL I'm honestly at a loss for words that people can vote without showing ID
>>530403618if they pull this outta their asses, gonna be a very funny wakeup call when repubs are the ones who lose shittons of votes because it's buttfucker Cletus that can't be assed to keep his ID or pony up $20 for a new one, not the educated.
>>530409376In that state you need to present ID to register and ask them to send you mail in ballot. You don't need to give them ID when you send the ballot back, since they is stupid and impossible.There is some onus on the person who asked for the ballot to report it missing, but if you're not a retard you would obviously report that thing you asked for went missing, because you want it.
>>530409478Im at loss over how the mutts on 4chan cant even explain their system.It requries several posts just for them to map out the system. Like fucking hell lol
>>530403529And...
>>530403242>voting in rigged private foreign corporate popularity contestsngmi
>>530409534Then they'll just do the old Jim Crow trick of grandfather clauses like the did to help the Cletus of 1872
>>530409037Might have something to do with the fact you already need proof of citizenship and an ID to register to vote to begin with. If you want to vote, you register to vote, it's been like this for ages already. The whole Voter ID shit is being phrased in such a way to imply that's not how it works and playing off the whole illegal Mexican narrative conservatives push to maintain their voter base. Voter ID is an attempt to filter out people who voted against whoever is currently in charge and then pulling bureaucratic nonsense to shift the blame around or play dumb.
>>530409376Here, in Oregon, one of 50 states each with their own rules, registers you automatically when you get an ID from the state government. They are not supposed to register non-citizens, but it is unclear if anyone is auditing that.That's it, that is the only time ID is needed.Ballots are received automatically in the mail and if you fill one out you are supposed to write your signature on the envelope. You can mail it back with postage or drop it in a special box, there are a few around each town. There is nobody at the box, nobody checking to make sure you are the person on the ballot or anything like that.Allegedly when the ballots are received, they are supposed to check that the signature matches the one on file (where do they get that original signature? nobody knows). But once the signed envelopes are opened at the counting place, the ballots become anonymous and there is no way to tell who voted for what.
>>530409076It cuts down on fraud. This isn't theoretical. Many states have voter id laws now. The differences where voter id laws have been applied are noticeable. Remember the millions of biden voters that just disappeared from the following elections?
>>530409599>There is some onus on the person who asked for the ballot to report it missing, but if you're not a retard you would obviously report that thing you asked for went missing, because you want it.We do not ask for a ballot, it is sent by mail automatically to everyone who is registered to vote, which is everyone who has ever gotten a state ID, which is everyone. Most people don't vote. Meaning that most ballots which are sent out are thrown in the trash. You can guess how hard it would be to collect unused ballots from trash cans.
>>530409599So you CANNOT vote without first registering?And in order to register you HAVE to show ID?So basically, at the end of the day, in order to vote, you must have shown ID? Correct?So why are mutts having a massive debate on the necessity of voting ID?But you DONT have to show ID when doing the actual voting? Why not? This should be the last and only step in the process. Why the fuck would you skip it?Also why is a leaf exlaining US voting system to me?
>>530409850Because most people do not actually cast their vote. They receive ballots in the mail and throw the ballot in the trash. If someone else digs that ballot out of the trash they can vote in their place.
>>530403242Of course they would only be against it if they legitimately were abusing the system.My state requires Identifications and the DMV here is very strict on who gets identification.You have to have birth certificate, social security, proof of residence. You can't even get an ID in my state on a work visa, they just give you a permit ID.
>>530409600>If only you knew how bad it really is
>>530409850>This should be the last and only step in the process. Why the fuck would you skip it?Because the people who made the rules are a combination of very dumb liberal women and/or people who intend to cheat the elections and want to make it easier.
>>530408975The real scam is electronic vote counting.This is all a giant distraction.
>>530403720Trump admin is currently investigating voter fraud. They just raided someone yesterday to get voter records. They wouldn't still be doing raids 8 months after the first one if they weren't getting somewhere with it
>>530410035The real scam is democratic voting in the first place. Most people are too stupid and ill-informed to be making decisions for the rest of us.
>>530409668>>530409534You can always move back to Mumbai
>>530403845No, you don't. Not everywhere. The idea is that only citizens get to vote, not just anyone with an id
>>530409959So why not do it the Euro way? >Step 1: You are a citizen. You recieve a ballot in your mail because the government knows who is a citizen and who isnt>Step 2: You take your ballot to the polling station during an election>Step 3: You show your ID at the polling station to confirm it's you>Step 4: You cast your voteSee how fucking easy that was? It's simple, logical, systematic. No flaws. No what-ifs. No debate. No confusion.I mean what are you doing over there? I thought America had some of the brightest minds on the planet and yet you havent been able to streamline one of the most vital aspects of your country?
>>530410095t. trump voter who voted for him 3 times because it was funny
>>530404063>if you cant afford $60 per decade then you do not deserve to vote Unironically, yes. If you can't even manage yourself, you don't deserve to manage the country
>>530409037California only requires drivers license and last 4 digits of you SSN.
>>530410035Oy vey! You better stop talking about Dominion and it's known vulnerabilities and ability to connect to the internet, as detailed by their own representatives, or they will sue you and a jew judge appointed by a jew governor "elected" by their machines will pronounce a summary judgement and ban you from discovery, whilst simultaneously fining you for a gorilliln dollars, no appeals
>>530410274Anon this is an extremely anti-Semitic post
>>530410274You are stupid beyond belief.It is set up this way ON PURPOSE by people WHO WANT TO CHEAT.The laws allowing this are FULLY SUPPORTED BY LIBERALS because some of them want to cheat and some of them are stupid enough they believe that voting laws are harmful to minorities or whatever.
>>530403242>99.5% of Democrats voted for voter fraudFTFY
>>530403408You'll be holding your ID to your computer and phone to even use it in less than a year you dumb cuck, 4chins and free speech will not be available to you anymore, retard ignoranus [sic]. Everyone should want less government busting citizens nuts and more government busting corporate nuts.
>>530409959this is absolutely not true!There is no need to dig the ballot out of the trash. Once ballot places close you get a list of everybody who did not vote and stuff a ballot with their name into the nearest post office.
>>530410574Hey California!
>>530405677>Care to make the case?Australia has mandatory voting and manages to not require voter IDs. Why can't you just copy our system?
>>530410435No YOU are dumb. You've had 200 years to fix this extremely simple logical elementary process, and you HAVENT. It says a lot about you your people.
>>530408301In arizona, we have a voter ID that requires a birth certificate to get, but a court case said we don't have to show it to vote.
>>530404029>meme flag complaining about a whole $60
>>530410274>the government knows who is a citizen and who isntthis is not legal in america.>You show your ID at the polling station to confirm it's youDemocrats would rather die than allow this and get voted out of power.
>democrats pass laws where you have to mandatorily provide your ID to sign into your own computer>democrats also say needing an ID to vote is racistReally makes you think.
>>530410274Bro each state has drastically different laws and the whole system is corrupt, it's that simple.the federal government has basically no real powerwe are a union of states, you could even call us the united states. that's it.at the end of the day if states can't do what they want they will circumvent the federal government. it happens every single day.in fact democrat state will openly protect known criminals who flee to other democrat states. you aren't fixing this problem with anything less than killing everyone in the system.>people pretending that the exact amount of fradulent social security voters during bidens election didn't equal the exact difference between biden and kamala harris' voter difference.is a perfect example.it was quantifiable, basically proven with the only part missing was "who actually did it."since they can't prove that part with a direct citation, you can't proven it was fraudulent. Someone has to be held responsible for the system to be fixed and every single day they purposefully create the bureaucrat system that allows everyone to stay hidden.the system must be destroyed at this level of corruption entirely.
>>530410656This mess isn't 200 years old. It is only since the 80s and 90s that this all started, and it was insidiously done And it isnt all states. It's only about 10, all of which have been DNC dominated since, wait for it, they changed the laws quietly without fanfare
>>530403242Well yeah no shit. This bill will make it harder for all their illegal beaner pets to vote for them
>>530408071>Why not start with an IQ/math/literacy test then?Won't matter if Dems can still harvest their ballots.
>>530403242we are being raided by people that dont 1pbtid and leave. I suspect its American intelligence, jews only post once.
>>530410833this is a myth, beaners would vote republican if they thought they could get away with voting at all.What is real is that beaners are counted to decide how many congressmen you get, and then somebody mails in votes for them so that those congressmen are democrats.I want to make it very clear that all of this is currently legal, there is absolutely no way that the federal government can interfere with this process. GOP is going to get killed in midterms unless voter id passes.
>>530405996Completely agree. Non citizens should not be allowed to vote. Not sure what solution can be found if it is a pain in the ass to get the ID.Maybe this is why they are trying to implement a bunch of digital ID stuff to verify age. That way people already have what they need to vote. So it isn't a barrier.
>>530403325you have to go back
>>530403529if you are too stupid to get an IDyou are too stupid to vote
>>530410795Good catch. Very good catch.I mean he also wanted his wife to fuck a jew but thats another thing
>>530404443>would've opened an avenue for illegals to register to vote in a legal way in leftoid democrat states>>530404526Retarded take.Look at the outright lies that are accepted as fact by the vast majority of normies because it comes from authority.These will be the people in charge of creating the IQ tests, which will inadvertently self-select for only their own kind to vote. >>530403845It isn't enough when anyone can look up your voting record and present as you at the poll.This is why vote-boycotters are shooting themselves in the foot: someone could very well be casting votes in their name.
>>530405976Nigger we just arrested a maryland superintendent who got on the voter rolls by simply lying on the screen at the dmv that ask if you are a citizen WHILE GETTING AN IDHe was only caught by ice years later
>>530410648Is it a system that works or is it full of fraud? Your government consistently seems pretty terrible so I have to ask if perhaps the issue is a structural one?
>>530410796>we are a union of states, you could even call us the united states. that's it.This isnt an argument.I am willing to bet that EU is more diverse in each individual state way of governing yet we've essentially agreed that the voting process is to be as simple and systemic as possible that we all have virtually the exact same system. You can ask a German or a Pole or a Greek or a Norwegian, the 4 steps i listed are going to be the same, because its what MAKES SENSE.
>>530405976Pennsylvania is literally vote harvesting and our Congress refused to out an end to it or even force Shapiro to veto it out of desperation for his own Presidential campaign.
>>530404731Back to the sovereign citizen forums retard
>>530406467lol, trannies lose again.
>>530411481Sven, I fucking hate it here because logical, straightforward thinking like yours isn't allowed. You have to imagine the average mutt is so averse to any standards because having standards means there are mutts who will objectively fail to meet those standards. >I didn't lose! I just *wall of cope*. Heh, better you feel stupid now?You should see our retarded nigger-ball commentators when a team loses and the cope they give. Essentially, think of it like why pit bulls are still allowed and the chain reaction it would have if you removed something based off of its genetic disposition to violence.
>>530403242As you rightwing racist assholes like to say...What else was in the bill?I'll wait for your answer.
>>530408495Voting is regulated at state level. Unsurprisingly, states that have become irrevocably corrupt have no voter ID regulations and have even used COVID to excuse mail-in ballots as standard long after the scamdemic was declared over. This bill will be found unconstitutional. An amendment is necessary to establish voter ID as a minimum.
>>530403529Good. Only land owners should vote.
>>530410795It's all part of implementation of a Chinese-style social credit score system of mass control where a digital ID is necessary to engage in even the most basic of daily activities essential to life.>>>530404443Meant to ask in my previous post how that would be possible?Foreigners technically shouldn't even have state-issued ID's because the USA recognizes foreign driver's licenses from over 100 countries.No ID? No problema: just contact your consulate and get issued a replacement.>>530411907Defense funds for greatest ally. Duh.>>530411924Federal can always strongarm the states into compliance by threatening to withhold funding, just like they did with highway speed limits and DUI minimum BAC levels.
>>530411907Nothing else.
>>530403618So much more than that. Ballots being collected blank from colleges and retirement homes too.
>>530403242In germany you also need to bring your ID to vote.
>>530411876idk this just blows my mind. USA has always been the country with the smartest people. You put a man on the moon and built the first atomic weapon for fuck sakes.Reason and logic shouldnt be your achilles heel.I can accept the corruption argument tho, but surely the average American even if Democrat should see this obvious flaw.It's very easy. You recieve a ballot because you are a citizen, you go to the poll station, you show your ID to prove its you, the citizen, you cast your vote. It's simple, logical, systematic. No flaws. No what-ifs. No debate. No confusion.
>>530410095Yes. This. 1000% this.
>>530412196>Good. Only land owners should vote.this
>>530410274>I thought America had some of the brightest minds on the planet...Why would you think that?
>>530403529>these niggers out here are too stupid and lazy to get id, therefore this law is racist
>>530403242The uniparty wants to implement a federal id from all sides of the equation
>>530410648>mandatory votingNo thanks. I don't believe in democracy.
>>530412505Based uniparty
>>530410866Won't matter if the votes are still counted by political operatives. Electronic voting just makes it easier to commit fraud.
>>530411087Most people are too stupid to vote.
>>530412720Exactly.
>>530411732(They will call you names but they won't say you're wrong.) You will never have a property right is a social security number, passport or driver's license. If you don't understand that you shouldn't be allowed to vote because you do not understand the nature of law or commerce.
>>530412286It's all part of the consolidation of wealth and global human population into an unified, open-air prison work camp.The elite would love nothing more than to rule over a shit-covered rock hurtling through space.>>530412438No longer viable when the rich are buying up all the land and turning the 99% into lifelong renters.Imagine only billionaires being able to vote (which is pretty much already the case since Citizens United).>>530412671Both parties are selected in this fashion.That's why you see R's fail too often on the truly important issues: controlled opposition.>>530412720Not stupid: demoralized and propagandized through the idiot box.>Something something worry about if people start deciding to kill reporters...
>>530412286>USA has always been the country with the smartest people.Why would you think that? Seriously? Have you ever met an American?
The Democrat party position has always been to pander to the laziness, stupidity and general dysfunction of the commons so as to remove all barriers that might prevent those who would be disinclined to care about politics to vote for them because it's "cool" to hold the position of whatever bioleninist slop they shovel out next. If you cannot be motivated to find some form of ID verification and do the bare minimum to show legitimate interest in the political process, you should not vote.
>>530406095bruh the point of an ID is to identify who the persn is. Not whether they are eligble to vote, that is something you can then figure out because you correctly identified the person.
>>530413159Exactly. Nothing that is given has value. A vote should be earned at great personal expense and sacrifice, and right now, the slow-boil is just enough that your common voter doesn't feel the immediate pain of their poor choices at the poll booth.
>>530413254>Not whether they are eligble to vote, that is something you can then figure out because you correctly identified the person.that is something democrat don't check for but you knew that, but it provd democrats know their party is full of fucking idiots to stupid to get id
>>530406738>The Republicans could propose giving every single American citizen a totally free National ID that they could use to vote in secure elections,Which they will never do because the point is voter suppression.
>>530414321Yes, suppressing the vote only to American citizens.
OK, you want voter ID. How about yes but also... digital ID with that?
>2 people may have voted while being non-citizens over like 40 years of voting>this is somehow republican's #1 issuefucking braindead morons
>>530403242The Constitution is pretty clear that states have the right to decide how they run their electionsfederally mandated voter ID should have to be an amendment
>>530414599republicans number one issue is appeasing their retard fanbase who currently hates them. all they can do is say >member 2020?>member trannies?
>>530414566like yours or a different kind?
>>530403325It's absolutely not bullshit. You should have to identify that you are qualified to vote in order to be able to vote. That should mean some kind of valid voter ID which proves you're a US citizen and proves that you are who you say you are.
>>530403242having an id just exposes the jews with ids who have dual citizenship
>>530414674The Federal government can always threaten to withhold certain funding until the state capitulates.It's how we have standardized highway speed limits and BAC levels across the board despite those being the purview of each state's legislature.>>530414566Last I checked, bullets don't need 1's and 0's to operate.A government should fear its people, not the other way around.>>530414599Without actual verification of who's voting, then we have no basis by which to measure the level of actual fraud being committed.Let's just see how the before-and-after numbers play out if this passes, then we can talk.
>>530414674Kek. Lots of salty faggots in this thread getting all pissy that their pet spics won't get to vote.Not to mention most niggers don't have their birth certificates and are too retarded to figure out how to replace them.Democrats are about to lose every election forever and you niggers are sitting here looking for technicalities to invalidate the MOST BASIC FUCKING REQUIREMENT OF CITIZENSHIP IN ANY CIVILIZED SOCIETY
>>530410795>>530411103It's quite odd really...
How many Americans are at the same time stupid enough to vote and smart enough to fill out the application form for an ID? Probably less than 30%.
>>530410795how could you possibly enforce this?
>>530403408Stupid pajeet with a meme flag. You're not welcome here.
>>530404571This is frustrating. Many filibusters have been out lasted and broken in the past. Thune just doesn't want to put in the effort to out last the dems filibuster because he doesn't care.
>>530403845Every illegal that visits California gets a driver's license.
>>530415721Because ~80% of people are sheep and will enforce cooompliance on the calcitrant, just like they did for Covid.Furthermore, once they abolish physical cash and implement digital ID for public services, normies will step over their own mothers to report resistors for bonus good goy points.Also, government collusion with Silicon Valley to implement and maintain the system, because the same people who have bought and paid for both want an open-air prison work camp to extract what little remaining wealth from the 99%, and this is how they plan on going about it.>>530416308Which is complete and utter bullshit since most, if not all, Central and South American countries' driver's licenses are recognized by the USA.
>>530405741You can just out last that shit if you're willing to just let the politicians talk until they collapse. Civil rights was only passes cause the senate was willing to weight out the opposing sides filibuster and ram it through when they wore out. Voting rights, which include safeguarding the vote, should garner equal priority and fervor to pass. Thune just doesn't give a shit and doesn't want to be bothered to wear out the dems.
>>530403325>>530403682>>530404667>>530406055You will never be a woman, shillrat, no matter how much you samefag your retarded party line.
>>530403242doesnt matter, senate is not passing it. trump is leaving office like last time, no legislative legacy other than spending bills.
>>530409108>memeflag
>>530403408MIGA Kike seethe.
>>530416308All I hear is Spanish speaking people in this state, almost everywhere.
>>530404086This lolThe problem with the SAVE act is that it requires you to have a birth certificate or passport to prove your citizenship, which Real ID doesn't cover.Why didn't they make the Real ID standard identical to passports and passport cards?It would help if our licenses had nationality and birthplace just like a passport/passport card does. It would solve this issue 100% and the SAVE act wouldn't be so controversial if they just did it like that.
>>530403242>We're gonna make you give us your ID to do literally fucking anything online soon but don't you DARE suggest an ID requirement for voting!
>>530403408Nigger cattle
>>530406939Sneed sells feed and seed, which is completely normal. Chuck, on the other hand, sells fuck and suck.
>>530405586Literally every other democratic country has Voter ID laws. Literally all of them besides the US require you to have an ID to vote.
its theatrenobody is actually voting, its all pre-determined.can you imagine if they just let them vote blind? theyd be liable to accidentally pass something which isnt of benefit to jewrynot a chance. they dont write their bills, they dont read their bills. how can they? nobody has that much time. the HEROES Act alone was twice the length of the bible.
>>530403242Now lets see how they voted in regards to digital id/age verification.
>>530410464I won't but you will lol.>stick the identification dildo up your ass to login
>>530403242fucking democrats… those who curse…
>>530411481>this isn't an argumentyou're implying we were having an argument.I was telling you a fact, you can't seem to accept it and are now trying to force an argument.Calm down dude, if you can't accept what i'm telling you just move on with your life. Because you'll just not understand, ever.>we have the exact same systemyour countries literally give seats to random lobbyist with no respect to you the voters. why are you implying otherwise?>b-but muh optics"okay" so they give you the illusion that you're actually voting and they purposefully ignore your vote. Congrats.That's how countries work.
>>530403325how is voter id bullshit? all your elections are a clown show, its 3 months of niggers manually counting ballots and guessing if signatures match, fighting over counts, recounts. You have no idea how ridiculous your elections look elsewhere. europeans put their government ID in a card reader, click on who they vote for, election result is known by the time we finish our 10 min walk home.
>>530404935Give me one good reason poor people should be able to determine the fate of the nation. They can't even run their own household well. What makes them think their opinion on national issues should be considered?
>>530415101>You should have to identify that you are qualified to voteThat would be even better. Only white male married home-owners get to vote. With ID
>Reeeeeeee we can't check ID or have voting on the same day, or not have mail in ballots because we count on losers and fake votes to win you nazi bigots!
>>530418455And how difficult is it exactly to simply keep your mouth shut? Society literally cannot function without something telling people to close their trap.A theocracy cannot truly be imposed from above.>the pope invades AmericaAnd how does this stop Americans from talking shit about him all day?>gotta establish secret policeAnd these guys can't be everywhere either.>need police state and surveillance stateBut as you might be able to imagine that's not usually how it works.Instead the pope usurps power in an already majority Catholic country, and it's your fellow countryman telling you to stop bitching about the pope, which only becomes further ingrained with time, as people become more serious about their Catholicism, children are raised in the cloister, and so on.And it's no different with everything else. A society of radical individualists will instead tell you to STFU about your conformist bullshit. That's called culture, society deciding what's normal and what isn't. Having laws is no different from a theocracy.This leads to two areas where democracy sucks especially badly: hypocrisy in that actually it's a farce, theater, and a decay of cultural norms besides what the hypocrites impose by force.Have a look at fucking Britain for instance, one of the most dystopian and dysfunctional democracies. Shit like from a horror novel.
>>530411041You have to go back
>>530420116It's fucking soap opera. Voting has not mattered since 1933. For the USA probably even onger then that.
>>530403242
>>530404029They can take it as a tax write off when they pay taxes. IF you didn't pay taxes you shouldn't get to vote. IF you never signed up for selective service you shouldn't get to vote.
>>530403529citizenship guarantees service
>>530421078If exclusively rich people voted, society as a whole would be 1,000x worse as rich people would just vote in their own interests.>All employee protections, gone>All customer protections, gone>No more fire exits or building code>No more food quality regulators>Fair use is no more and copyright laws extend to even saying a character’s name without permission>Slavery is reinstated and now includes Whites>Insider trading becomes legal>All the shitty hiring practices like ghost jobs remain legal without a single bit of hope of them becoming illegal>etc.It’s already bad enough that we’re a republic and not a democracy, meaning our representatives can be bribed to favor corporations and the rich. Letting rich people be the only voters would be a disaster.
>>530421673None of those things are as destructive to the nation is allowing poor people to vote on their own welfare.
>>530403242Based Dems it’s dead in the senate for the record get fucked migger you can’t make me go to the DMV suck my dick
>>530422009Go ahead and filibuster it. We'll wait.
>>530403242Honestly who cares? Democrats or republicans it’s the same Jewish bullshit. Is it even stealing elections when no matter the result it’s a Jewish victory kek. Democracy shills are idiots.
>>530420972which ID? driver licence? state id card? Passport? the constitution says the states run the elections, that was intentional to limit federal power accumulation and corruption. For example, if passports become the required ID, then the secretary of state, in this case little marco, could just negate enough passports to sway the election.
>>530421078most poors have fewer bankruptcies and felony convictions than the current president. also, fuck you
>>530403242I dont care
>>530403682Nigger
>>530403242Democrats are 65% of the registered voter base, why would they need to cheat to win.. Republicans only ever win with voter suppression
>>530422343What makes you think you're smart enough to run a country when you can't even run your home? Is it arrogance?
>>530403682If you need help to get ID, you should go back to Guatemala.
>>530422479voting isnt "running the country" you nitwit.
>>530403325In NYC you needed 5 forms of ID to shovel snow
>>530421673> being net positive and having to pay taxes makes you rich
>>530422121The votes are not there to get rid of the filibuster either haha you lost migger no DMV for me you can’t make me go. There could be niggers and miggers there
>>530410795>pass laws where you have to mandatorily provide your ID to sign into your own computerNo you moron, all it says is that the OS has to have an API for communicating what the user's age is. E.g. the OS provides something like a date picker to enter in your birthdate (no, not an ID dipshit), and then the OS needs a way for apps to be able to find out what date you put into it so that not ever app has to ask if you're 18.
>>530422579Yes it is when your votes are used to determine policy. Are you daft?>>530422798Doesn't mean we won't make you try. Keep talking, nigger.
>>530422918>your votes are used to determine policy.just what country you think this is? youre not even smart enough to be posting here
>>530422999Ah yes, the old "voting doesn't matter but it's super important niggers get to vote" argument. If it doesn't matter then what do you care if SAVE passes or not?
Each State makes their own rules.I live in a pretty blue state and I have always had to show id to vote but I have seen some really jewish voting in large cities that live on tv have shown very poor standards run by black women wearing political attire.It is against the law to wear political attire when you vote so if I see the poll workers wearing it I know it is a sham system.I would assume these cities would be all liberal anyway so I can't see how fraud would benefit them locally.
>>530414599>It's only two goyim trust meYou don't even believe your own bullshit
>>530421921>I may live in a corporate dystopia>where I work 90 hour weeks with no breaks>my co-workers are constantly being killed by preventable accidents>the company is constantly spying on me and stealing every bit of data about me>the only food available is food from the company I work at>which is filled with wood chips>any workers who aren’t killed on the job are laidoff so that millions of immigrants who will work for lower wages get the job>everyone is forced to wear smart glasses that force you to watch ads every 7 minutes>and all my taxes are used to subsidize my boss who doesn’t pay a dime back because of tax cuts exclusive for the rich, so its effectively welfare but worse because its going into the pockets of people who don’t need it and are actively making life worse for everyone besides themselves and Israel>BUT HEY! At least I don’t have to give money to poor people who need it and who wouldn’t need to need that money if companies were expected to hire adequate number of employees, pay their employees enough to actually live, and didn’t try destroying the economy with open bordersI got a better idea. Let’s ban retards. That’d be helpful as it’d prevent you from voting.
>>530424260>poor people who need itThey're literally dying of obesity from sucking so much wealth away from the worker.
>>530404029They can just stop charging citizens for ID's then. They can take it out of the refugee hotel budget
>>530403242So, it passed?
>>530422918>we are gonna try really hard Kek it’s more fun when you try and fail anyway I like it when you get your hopes up just to have them crushed
>>530408276Not in blue states. What do you think this fight is about?
>>530403242Who is the one who voted in favor? Was that the same woman who stood for the applause lines at the recent SOTU? I think she was wearing red.
>>530424703Only in the house
