Forget china, can USA even beat Russia?
>>530441625It can't beat Iran, so no.
>>530441625The problem remains geographical in nature.
Nothe best they can do this century is venezuela
>>530441625yes with a 1000 to 1 K/D in their favor according to /k/eddit.
>>530441625Forget Russia, can the US beat Cuba?
>>530441625Forget Cuba, can USA even beat Greenland?
>>530441625Orange Biden should have invaded New York with the national guard and round up Illecals and shitlib white communists. Instead he's doing god fuck know what in the middle east claiming DA BROWN PEOPLE MAKIN' DA NUUUUKE!!! Which they DIDN'T. This is the most retarded timeline.
evidently can't even beat iran
The US spend decades and trillions on wars in the middle east for the middle east to be a complete shithole. The US can bomb Iran with practically no resistance and the US is floundering. Russia is fighting a war that the US and Europe have pumped billions in weapons into and the US whines at the idea of Russia given even intelligence to Iran much less weaponsA combined Russia and China would stretch the US beyond the point it could handle. The US could use nukes but so could Russia and China. The US would be in a terrible place in a hot war with Russia and China
>>530441625No one can beat Russia in a real war because in a real war they would launch all 6 thousand of their nukes.
>>530444298-10 levels of leadership killed-Entire navy destroyed-entire airforce destroyed-all within a weekand what has russia done in 4 years
>>530444569Your air bases are getting blown up, you can’t even protect your air bases, lmao.How will you protect your air bases against Russia missiles if you can’t even stop Iran missiles?
>>530441625Can USA beat Ukraine? Because russia can't.
>>530441625in a conventional war, Russia would be destroyed in about a week. Total air dominance in likely 48 hours.
>>530441625The US apparently can't even beat Italy
>>530444630Really guess you missed all the points listed. The US still has all its planes and all the airforce bases in the world including 9 carriers. Cope harder third worlder
>>530444645They are though. Every day Ukraine loses more and more land. They can barely cover all the fronts.
>>530444731>has 2 mouthswtf is this ai slop
>it's a brown thirdy cope episode
>>530444836His neck is happy
>>530444569OHAnd keep in mind that all this power was projected across the planet. Russia cant even do shit to a country it borders LMAO. There is not a single other country in the world that slam another country on the other side of the planet like the US can, simply put
pointless to argue over this given that russia and USA are both nuclear superpowers with a nuclear triad. in an actual war both sides would quickly be forced to resort to nuclear weapons to avoid taking massive casualties. because of this, neither side will ever engage in a war with each other. that's the whole point of MAD (mutual assured destruction). only people who argue over "who would win" are terminally online retards.
>>530441625>can't beat rice farmers>can't beat the poorest, illiterate goat herders on earth>can't beat richer goat herders>can we beat Russia?
>>530441930>can the US beat Cuba?You tried already, the answer was no.
>>530444645Im not entirely convinced russia wants to
>>530445166a conventional war is not a guerrilla war genius. There was literally not an objective to be completed in Afghanistan. Iraq's military (3rd largest in the world, soviet trained and armed) was defeated within a month.
I ask again, this huge shitshow with money and material spent en masse, things getting expensive, not to mention the lives lost and ruined, and for what, what was the point of this chimpout?A naive hope the populace would rise up and Trump would get to approve (read: appoint) a puppet that would give him oil?Israel told us to attack?Orange in chief said "Intel said Iran was gonna attack" which we know it didn't so its either cope for this fiasco which still begs the question what the fucking point was, or retardation which isn't particular flattering either.
>>530445266>There was literally not an objective to be completed in Afghanistan
>>530441625The USA can beat anybody if they wanted to. Unfortunately, they haven't wanted to yet, which is why they lose all their wars.
>>530445336exactly, so nothing. Bullshit nation building doctrine. All nonsense. Want to address defeating the iraqi military within a month?
>>530441625Militarily, yes.But Russia has a copy of the Epstein files so the America leadership cannot afford to hurt Russia.
>do nothing>allies getting picked off one by one>isolated from vital resources>lose
>>530445266>they didn't play by our rules, that means our defeats don't count.
>>530445306>what was the point of this chimpout?Israel wanted it. It's that simple. If I were to speculate it might be that they reached the now or never stage. Remember this was supposed to be done almost 20 years ago. But things dragged on and America is far from the country it was when this all began in 2001.
>>530445441>exactly, so nothing. Bullshit nation building doctrine. All nonsense.And you got kicked out by goat herders.
>>530445539you just dont get how things work. Theres no defeating a couple hundred thousand of cavemen in mountains. Theres no uniformed enemy. You could kill half of them and still get nowhere. Same thing happened with the soviets. They killed a shit ton of them and didnt get anywhere because there isnt anywhere to get to>>530445606Still never addressed the military defeat of Iraq because you cant understand concepts and realize theres no winning unconventional warfare in the middle east.
>>530445694>b-b-but we defeated Iraq!!!!The purportedly greatest military machine the world has ever, and the only W you have is against a third world shit hole like Iraq.Pathetic.
>>530445783The iraqi military in the 80s was literally more powerful than all of scandinavia combined but you keep yapping you clearly know shit. You literally know nothing.The US killed 60k taliban and got nowhere objectively The soviet killed tens of thousands of mujahadeen and got nowhere objectively
>>530444569>-10 levels of leadership killedterrorist tactics, no respect>-Entire navy destroyedyour navy is 100x bigger, not an achievement >-entire airforce destroyedsameyou guys who think this is kewl are literal autists, depressed by psychological warfare and this is your kosher outlet, you are being used
>>530446176>your navy is 100x bigger, not an achievementlmao war isnt a some fair fight with divisions, its pure domination and conquest. Ask your great grandpa how hard his ass got reamed by germans in the 30s and how it "wahh wasnt fair" retard.>sameretard?
>>530446247>pure domination and conquestI JUST JIZZED IN MY PANTS, OH MY GOD PURE DOMINATION WE'RE SO POWERFUL WITH OUR MURDER TOYS AGGGHHH FUCK THIS NATION AND THEIR LEADERS WE ARE DOING THE BIDDING OF ISRAEL BECAUSE WE LIKE TO BE SLAVES AAGGGHH >same their air force was pretty small an old
>>530445866>The iraqi military in the 80s was literally more powerful than all of scandinavia combinedAnd you invaded in 2003. I also recall Iraq fighting a disastrous war that decimated their military in the 80s. Against... oh right, Iran. >The US killed 60k taliban and got nowhere objectivelySo you admit you lost. Good.
>>530446706Iraq came out of the Iran-Iraq war stronger than when it started. I’d accuse you of being underage but you’re probably just a refuge sucking up welfare and are actually dumber than the average child despite being 27 and a virgin
>>530446588>I JUST JIZZED IN MY PANTSsounds like you are recreating polands entire military history. >>530446706>And you invaded in 2003Guess you didnt know the gulf war in 1990? Do you know history? Check out the K/D there and most of the US deaths were friendly fire. That how a conventional war with the US looks like and you see it here in Iran, who actually have a distinguished military>So you admit you lost. Good.there is no winning because there is no objective. You could level the place with nukes and still not "win" (whatever that is). Both of the largest military powers in the world "lost" in afghanistan so that means nobody can "win" because there isnt anything to win.
>>530445489But look at all their glowies on VPNs here!!!! Thats a win(in the third world)
>>530444569can we see what strategic goals were accomplished?
>>530446873>sounds like you are recreating polands entire military history.well if that's so weird why do you keep dragging yourselves into wars that you can't win
>>530441625Nah, you guys are lucky, yiu have nukes.
>>530445489You realise, China looks like the safe , sane option trade wise right now right, that's invaluable, they should thank Trump.
>>530441625I think Russia's power comes from throwing bodies in the grinder like in WW2, unlike in US where they count the casualties in numbers in the Iran war for example. Wonder why they aren't blowing a new asshole to "a backwards country" like Iran if they are such a military might. Soon it's China's turn on the stage to perform or be outed as a paper tiger like the former 2 best militaries in the world. It might turn out not only big bombs and numbers matter in war, muslims love dying for Allah, americans don't like dying for ronald mcdonald and israel.It also doesn't help that literal women, trannies, retards and lolcows are in charge of the US and it's military forces.
>>530441625Only thing USA can do is simulate war theater against Mossad OPFOR destruction/rape units pretending to be Taliban and guard Opium facilities.
>>530441848Talking about K/D ratios whats it looking like between the US and Iran, then compare that to Russia and Ukraine. Feel free to take some time.