https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2032311438937579896
>>530608233What does this mean, somebody explain
>>530608301you're gonna be poorer, maybe soo poor you'll want to go back to india
>>530608301
>>530608301Market manipulation works right up until the moment somebody needs a physical shipload of oil physically delivered to their physical location and it can’t happen for any amount of money
>>530608301Nothing, it's just typical leftist narrative. That said, carpooling to work is normal and true MAGA patriots have always been doing it. Only leftards like to drive every day.
>>530608233Interesting that they are saying that publicly. Wonder if they notice some fuckery going on and suspect that is occurring right now. Wouldn't be shocked if it is.
>biblicalAlways defaulting to schizophrenia, I see
>>530608301Rich people saying they gonna lash out if they lost their money
>>530608301It means since a week ago, petrol cars have become a lot more jewish. Fuel will climb to $12 a gallon
>>530608301it means that the people playing futures since oil went negative are overleveraged beyond their eyeballs and besides them having shit explode and people die; now an iranian retard government is doing it for them for free so they are wanting their contracts filled to make billions possibly trillions and gut the entire economybasically they become the 0.0001% that much moreso than they already are, or theyll hold the world hostage like dr.evilexcept dr.evil went awol to iran and is hosting an entire sovereign government hostage to the world's hormuz crisis shitshow incumbent of their people
>>530608301TL;DR the Trump admin wants to do market manipulation.Longer explanationFundamentally, the price of oil, or any commodity, is determined by supply and demand. Right now we have a supply shock: there is less oil available, globally, because the strait of Hormuz is closed.The way to lower back oil prices would be to somehow increase oil supply. This can be done by unblocking the strait of Hormuz or, failing that, unlocking supply elsewhere (e.g. removing sanctions on Russia, exploiting new deposits, etc.)Here, what the Trump admin wants to do is instead to alter the signal (the price), by using US cash to manipulate the financial products used to trade oil. Essentially a form of legal market manipulation.It wouldn't be "biblical" but it would seriously fuck up that market, yes.The reason CME is saying it would be biblical is because traders won't trust their exchange in the future, so they'd lose market share to other commodities exchanges (in the US and elsewhere).
>>530608233They're bluffing. He should do it.
>>530608233Typical Chicago Pussy company fag response of Liberal tranniness
>>530608301State imposed price fixing. Economyfag is telling shabosgoyfag that will destroy the US stock market
What's with people always using derivatives to cause massive financial disasters?You see it with idiot retail traders spamming options/futures to big institutions making dumb bets on swaps or whatever and losing billions?They clearly don't know how to use them yet they keep doing it.
>>530608233I'm invested in safe index funds, so none of this applies to me.
>>530608301Everyone becomes a billionaire
Withdraw all your money from the bank
>>530608705> GO GO GO
>>530608809all my what?
>>530608301ORANGEMANBAD!
>>530608233Warning Trump that an idea is shit, is basically a challenge in his view.
The roads are so empty and i couldnt be happier
>>530608233LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO!!!!!!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdfReE0qds
>>530608301Trumpenstein plans to lower the price of oil by printing a bunch of I.O.Us that will never be able to clear. He thinks actual commodities work like the money printer and you just magic up some more oil on paper, and no ones the wiser until they actually need that oil physically.If this is what they are actually considering, then you know the US is fucked and Iran is winning.
>>530608301trump is going to become communist and nationalize oil which will tank the stock market and we're all going to live in newly built gold spray painted commie blocks
>>530608689you could also decrease demand, but conservatives are retards and have actively worked to sabotage natural gas vehicles, high fuel-efficiency vehicles, and electric vehicles for decades.
>>530608301It means green line go red
>>530608301Basically it means that let the goyim deal in the world
>>530608301a kike who is doing massive illegal stock market manipulation is trying to prevent Trump from finding out by lying
>>530608233Great Depression 2.0 Electric Boogaloo in 2026 lmaokek its over bros
dont worry, president newsome will bail out wall street criminals like obama did. good cop bad cop routine.
>>530609007>USSRgreen commie blocks>USSAgold commie blocks>CCPRGB commie blocksworld's cooked boyos
>>530608301They’re over leveraged and this basically means bearpocolypse
>>530608301I'm financially illiterate, but I dont understand how adding more oil to the market is necessarily going to cause a disasterSure, you wont have those reserves anymore, but beyond that I dont know the issue is
>>530608233>CME GroupLiterally the hidden big boss of financial kikery, legit on the podium of the most devilish jewish-controlled corpo ever.
I am a supporter of nationalist politics, where the racial ideology is an important point
>>530608689The "intervening" here is actually just flooding the market with oil from strategic reserves
>>530609234It will lead to false confidence and a horrifying sudden shock when the tiny amount of reserve is used up in a week, compounding the problem as instead of scaling back consumption in preparation consumption will stay at the same level but the oil is physically not there. That is my thought.
>>530609234>just use up all the reserves, that's what they're there forlmoo
The end result of Jews being in charge of anything which needs to be banned and punishable by death in the future.
>>530609289Good thing Biden dumped 45ish% of our spr to try to win midterms. Either way shits fucked. Not even sure if getting an electric would help, probably just make you a target.
>>530608301it means the entire US Chicago based market exchange has recognized the economic incompetence of big orange nigger and are trying to advise him that the thing he will inevitably try will have a bad outcome before he gets the idea recommended to him by his cabinet of jewish advisors.
>>530609489>scale back consumptionthis is the same administration that eliminated CAFE standards and got rid of tax credits for electric vehicles.
>>530608233Trump is on some fucked up 4D chess bullshit if he does that no way he thought of interfering with oil futures/options or whatever himself.
>>530608233CME Group is warning Trump that "manipulating" Oil Futures (speculative after-market trading for oil, in this case) would be bad. The Futures look bad because sentiment around the Iran war is negative. Trump releasing 172 million barrels of reserve oil into the market to dampen the rising cost of oil would only aggravate the problem even if it provided short-term relief. In other words CME is saying that reserve oil is not a solution to the greater problem of rising oil prices.
>>530608780I've either seen this post before or I am going crazy
>>530608301Just manipulating the "free" market like has been going on for decades now. America is basically a communist nation at this point where the government is involved in central planning all the time and manipulating the market. The TikTok buyout is just one example of many.
>>530608436Basically this.
>>530608301it means the orange nigger is the blackest, most retarded gorilla nigger imaginable, and for his crimes he and the rest of his family are going to be executed and their ill gotten wealth seized
>>530608301It means get ready for Covid Lockdowns 2: Electric Boogaloo
>>530608689>TL;DR the Trump admin wants to do market manipulation.Sounds more like the ones running/trading in the derivative markets are the ones manipulating the markets not Trump. Your last sentence in your post sounds like straight up market manipulation and they are just getting mad it isn't in their favor because they will lose money. Way to point your hook nose out for all to see.>is determined by supply and demandYeah that's bullshit because the law of supply and demand and having a Stock Market do not mix. The whole point of the Stock Market is to manipulate the markets in your favor especially the high rollers. This automatically diminishes the law of supply and demand in your country.
>>530610761Sounds to me like anyone playing the stock market with necessities should be chocked down their troats with the same fake money they play around
>>530608436Maybe the oil was really just the friends we made along the way.
BASEDkill the gay financial markets lil Donny
They've been financially depressing oil extraction and refining capabilities to keep the price artificially higher than it should be globally to boost their profit margins.Imagine if we could rely on domestic, or access to the Atlantic product, instead of getting it shipped most of the way around the world. They might not make as much money.
>>530608301Trump wants to pull a China with all of the bad and none of the good.
>>530611562different blend, different quality, also competitive price point for downstream products (fertilizers, machine lubricants, etc.) it all matters.Venezuelan takeover was a complete flop since their oil is one of the worst in quality and only compatible because the US produces the right type of oil needed for a blended product. There's a lot of complex steps to make it a sellable product, and that adds to the cost too.Arab oil is good enough to use with near zero processing and is dirt cheap. That alone makes Venezuelan oil shittier in every way to use if you're burning using millions of barrels per day; the price difference adds up quickly and eats into profits.
>>530608689I’d imagine getting people to work from home again like they did during Covid would save huge amounts of gasoline.
>>530610761The stock market and the derivatives market are not the same thing. Other than market manipulators (Jane Street got banned from the Indian options market for this), most profits are made from market making rather than directional trading. Markets makers prefer prices to be flat, not be manipulated up or down - this way, both calls and puts expire OTM and they get to keep the premium. What price controls would do (I'm assuming that's the Trump idea?) would make people lose trust in the system, and trade elsewhere. It's like the idiocy of China, which has banned short selling every time the market dips. This is insane. Shorting a stock (or buying puts in the derivatives markets) does not mean you are unpatriotic and want the market to go down. Most of the time, those positions are bought as a hedge for their overall long position, so they don't get wiped out if market goes down.>t. unironically Jewish anon
>>530613284Forgot to mention, price controls would mean that implied volatility in derivatives would collapse, reducing their value regardless if they are bets that the market will go up or down. If everyone knows the price, there's no point in trading it. There's a similar risk that has happened before, when people DO take directional bets and buy puts and a stock crashes too much. It can get delisted from the exchange. When that happens, even if your position is up 100,000% in a day, you cannot sell it because there is no market to sell it in. Of course you wanted the price to crash, but it cannot crash so low that it gets removed from the exchange or you're fucked.
>>530609246How? This is literally the purpose of these markets to begin with. The fact most commodities go unlisted and directly negotiated in secret is why society is so fucked.
>>530608301>What does this mean, somebody explainBecause of the war, oil prices are high due to oil supplies being uncertain. Like how diseases in birds (or even the mere perception of that) lead to egg prices going up.The derivatives market is where people make money by paying for abstractions of underlying real assets. Like instead of buying oil, you could spend money on a contract to buy oil in the future, where the price you pay is maybe set in the past and radically different from how it'll end up being in the future. If your bet works out, you could buy oil at the lower price and profit, but if it goes the other way then you end up losing money.Because derivatives are less real than actual direct transactions involving physical assets there's some room to abuse that and try to make an economy that would normally be bad seem good instead. But when that sort of thing backfires you get situations like the 2008 subprime lending crisis where suddenly everyone realizes the underlying assets to justify their pretend wealth is bullshit and people start panic selling to exit the speculative markets and hold on to cash or gold instead.
>>530608233>stop manipulating our game, that's our job.
>>530608301Jam boys got awnry over some big pajeeta titties finding their way into a white man's mouth.
>>530608233Don't worry goyim, the economy is still roaring, U-S-A, U-S-A...
>>530608233Trumpanyahu:>biblical disaster, you say? go on.
>>530608233>war profiteers quaking in their boots that their morally degenerate gambling might backfire on them
>>530608301they longed oil and if the price drops again they all get margin called because they used retarded leverages
>>530608233
>>530613625AI bubble ran in to an energy wall.Bankers are jumping ship, they aren't going to be your exit liquidity in private credit.And now, no you won't be able to manipulate oil prices.PC and AI bubble going to burst with this oil shock, no chance it survives.There's a reason Michael Burry shorted.
>>530608233Considering mutts are fighting this war to bring about the apocalypse (according to their own soldiers being propagandized), I fully expect the orange retard to jump head first into the biblical disaster.
>>530609068/thread
>>530608233Destroy the CME and hang everyone inside>t. silverfag
>>530608233Do it Trump, I want to see the CME Group cry for all the sins they've commited. Let's see how many "cooling problems" they'll have when their oil reserves start to run dry.
>>530608233Faacinating. Trump has made the media, universities and law firms kowtow. I'm excited to see him butt hewds with the financila institutions who have skin in the game
>>530608301jews warning against interfering with their manipulation
The biblical disaster is that a metric assload of kikes will lose all their money and then default on their short positions and "meme stocks" (read: heavily naked shorted stocks that failed to go under due to being found out through GME) will blow up massively as they are still heavily shorted to this day. Reminder GME pre-share split is still sitting at 99 dollars per share. A wealth transfer from kikes to goyim the likes have which never been seen before would be a "biblical disaster" as the chosen people would now be destitute due to their own shitty choices.Right now a massive chunk of the stock market is being propped up by kike magic and anything that causes a massive shift will end horribly for them as they will no longer be able to do their tricks.
>>530608689It'd basically be doing what Russia has been doing with their own economy. And with similar side effects of no one actually believes the Russian economy anymore
>>530608436>>530608233>>530608301What does this have to do with the oil carry trade in Yen?
>>530609045I have never heard about natural gas vehicles being a thing, I know about biogas cars. >high fuel-efficiency vehiclesNo that was the car industry
>>530608436This will happen to silver too.
>>530616217Based. I am happy if pm hobos get shredded.
Orange golem is crashing this empire with no survivors
Wall Street is fake and gay and only beneficial to billionaire kikes like Jeffrey Epstein and his friends at JP Morgan, and Trump is threatening to overturn their entire scam. Trump is destroying the international jewish mafia in real-time and it's beautiful.
>>530608233GET THE FUCK IN HERE!!!!>>530611001
>>530608233That's grreeaatt...So how about those Epstein files
>>530608301Orangeman wants to do to oil and gas what the CME Group already does to silver and gold (print hundreds of paper contract barrels for every real physical barrel) and trade these on the market to manipulate the price downward. My take at least
>>530608233derivatives are not real economy anymore, its run by zogthey should crash and die
>>530616767lol you already posted itEpstein told that derivatives are for jews, goys deal with real world
>>530608233>WARNS TRUMP OF BIBLICAL DISASTERTrump wants the biblical disaster though. His evangelikike migger supporters want muh rapture, muh end times, muh second coming of jeebus.
>>530608301It means Kobessi shorted a shitload of oil when you started this and if you fix the price they'll lose a shitload of money and get margin called on all of their other positions, and they're claiming it'll be a biblical disaster to try and prevent it. Typical jew shit. Cause a problem and instead of fixing it, keep doubling down until the regulators are more scared of the consequences of fixing the problem and start helping you hide it.
Why do we have a stock market? Get rid of it
>>530608301Bessent, listen upUS INTERVENTION IN OIL FUTURES WOULD BE ‘BIBLICAL DISASTER’, CME WARNSWhy would U.S. intervention in oil futures be a “biblical disaster”?Because oil futures aren’t just a casino for traders.They are the pricing engine for the global energy system. Airlines use it to lock fuel costs. Shipping companies hedge diesel. Refiners hedge crude. Oil producers hedge future production.If governments start forcing prices or restricting trades, trust in the market breaks. Once trust breaks, liquidity disappears and real buyers and sellers stop using that market to set prices. Then oil pricing moves to private deals, foreign exchanges, or opaque markets. When the world loses a transparent price for energy, volatility explodes and the entire supply chain becomes unstable. That’s why interfering in oil futures isn’t just market intervention, it risks breaking the system that prices energy for the world...but thats one thing they're good at - manipulating markets.
>>530616707Read that and it is utter retarded shit. Fuck you bot.
Not a single post itt or OP understands the topic or anything about any of this.
>>530617288
>>530608233Kikes are getting their oil shipments blocked with the strait of homuz closed. This would normally raise prices. Kikes were hoping to price gouge on that. If Trump lowers oil prices it would be buy high sell low for kikes. kikes try to get biblical with everything
>>530608301Trying to lower the price of oil artificially trough market means won't work because the people in the end of the day want physical oil to appear in their refineries which won't be possible if there's more demand than there is supply.
Here is a breakdown of the specific "biblical disaster" warning and the mechanics behind it:The Core ArgumentThe head of the CME is essentially warning that market physics cannot be overridden by government decree without breaking the system. Derivatives markets (like oil futures) rely on price discovery based on supply, demand, and risk. If a government steps in to artificially suppress prices or change the rules of how these trades work during a high-volatility event (like a war): * Liquidity Drain: Market makers and institutional investors may stop trading entirely if they feel the "game is rigged" or unpredictable. Without buyers and sellers, the market "freezes." * Counterparty Risk: If the government forces prices down, it could cause massive, systemic defaults for those who held positions based on market realities. * Physical Shortages: Derivatives prices signal to producers how much oil to pump. If the price is artificially lowered, the incentive to produce or move oil disappears, potentially leading to actual physical fuel shortages.Why "Biblical"?The use of the term "biblical" suggests a systemic collapse rather than just a market dip. The CME Group is the infrastructure where the world hedges its risk. If that infrastructure fails: * Global clearinghouses could face insolvency. * The "plumbing" of the global financial system could seize up. * The resulting economic shock would likely far outweigh the benefit of lower gas prices.Context of the InterventionThe "intervention" being warned against usually refers to things like: * Position Limits: Capping how much traders can buy or sell. * Margin Changes: Forcing traders to put up more cash, which can trigger a selling spiral. * Price Caps: Directly outlawing trades above a certain dollar amount.In short, the CME is telling the administration that trying to "fix" the price of oil via the financial markets is like trying to fix a fever by breaking the thermometer-- gemini explanation
>>530608436So basically Boomers gonna keep boomin until they can't kick the can any longer.
>>530608301cant calm the goys by papering over yet another real gaping issue because the fake money system is too kiked to take any more kiking
>>530609234They're not talking about adding any more oilThis is using financial markets to artificially bring the price down which works up until enough people realize it's happening
It means that Trump's idiotic tweets and saying that everything is fine do not work on the market when PHYSICALLY countries do no have oil.Lies/Market manipulation vs reality that reached boiling point
>>530608301Your idiot government lower prices to physical asset for that asset to never arrive then force the price up at last minute. In which case will probably never arrive. See the danger?A few moments later Your fed tanks they print more monopoly money and a loaf of bread costs you six gorillian goy bucks.Having fun yet burger? Because I know those corporate pricks are laughing at your expense whilst you stay inebriated.
>>530613284It's not price controls.The manipulation they are talking about is fear the Treasury might (or possibly already has) sell oil futures, basically shorting the market.
>>530608301The markets are fake and gay
JP Morgan bought Epstein's network for $290 million. That's leverage
>>530608405>picbefore photography painters didn't know what lightning looks like.
People and industry don't have a choice but to use oil. How is it simply 'supply and demand' when they have no other option? Sounds like some aspect of it was artficially built in i.e. there is control
>>530618361>How is it simply 'supply and demand' when they have no other option?It's called demand destruction. Those that can still afford it keep buying those that can't die
>>530608301There will be a flood, I think. Or maybe persecution of Jews by Egyptians. Outside chance for the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Bet now, bet often.
>>530610761top retard
>>530618457Sweet! Except you forgot that those that can't afford will not die without a fuss
>>530618527No one needs oil to live, they want oil to do fun things
>>530618527Let me put it in context. The jeets and niggers die over there. They make a noise but nobody hears it. In the land of cunt boomers smile as they raise the rent, bogans type furiously on social media
>>530618518>Says the nigger memeflag userWe are discussing markets and economics in this thread nigger. Your people don't even understand what per capita means so discussing market manipulation and economic forces with you is far beyond your meager pea sized brain. Don't you have a spear to chuck or something?
>>530612975Good idea.
>>530608233How did the world work before 1961? Quick Historical NoteCME started in the 1800s as the Chicago Butter and Egg Board, later becoming the Chicago Mercantile Exchange in 1919. It introduced its first futures contract in 1961 (frozen pork bellies — yes, really).
>>530608301COMEX drove the boat out to sea, cut the sails and pissed into the gas tank of the backup engine. also dropped the nut holding the prop on.if trump doesnt drag their sorry asses back to shore at the detriment of the american citizens they will nuke the entire worlds market.
>>530608233My job isn't fake and gay so it dont really care.
>>530617589That's a good explanation, ty to our ai overlords. Basically a lot of people speculated that the price of oil would go up, so they bought oil futures (which are btw very leveraged). So now a fuck ton of people lost a lot of money. This already ruined investors, causing distruss and in long term it will screw up the physical market as well.So basically it's like trumps covid neetbucks situation: seems cool idea to get free money but that free money caused massive inflation because sellers would hike up the prices when they knew people had extra free cash. So good in short term, really bad in long term.
>>530608301>we've GAMBLED HUGEEEE, we're fucked
>>530608233They will just try to nuke iran, won't they?
>>530608233Yeah making money from wars is gods will. Don't even try to intervene!
>>530619611Jim Cramer called the top; now boomers need to lock in the profits selling to the buyer of last resort
>>530608233Kinda weird since the USA's oil comes from Brazil , Canada , Mexico and Saudi ... but more than half comes from our own back yard
>>530608689Again, US gets their oil from brazil canada mexico and saudi arabia.. and the saudis only account for 7% roughly.You're a disingenious nigger.
>>530614121>The derivatives market is where people make money by paying for abstractions of underlying real assets. Like instead of buying oil, you could spend money on a contract to buy oil in the future, where the price you pay is maybe set in the past and radically different from how it'll end up being in the future. If your bet works out, you could buy oil at the lower price and profit, but if it goes the other way then you end up losing money.I remember growing up I was taught that the economy was buying goods and services and some taxes. Now you're telling me people buy the phantoms of oil prices like betting on a horse and this is the backbone of ANYONE'S financial success?Fucking nuke this clown country.
>>530608233So since trump is definitely manipulating the derivs, what's he gonna do?
>>530608301It means this was all deliberate and Trump is the Great Reset President. If you hadn't worked this out already when they unleashed covid and the lockdowns, you're never going to figure it out.The world is going to completely change and billions must die.
>>530622315>was taught that the economyAnon (the point you raise is a highly valid germane one and),the post-1970s global economy is Financialized.We have many topic threads on this, and central banks, in archive.4plebsUse the search term:>financializationtl/dr All wealth today 21st century worldwide all 160 countries—not just 'our country'—is generated and sourced from (no, not 'labor' 'capital' or 'work') *speculative debt instruments*<--none of which existed ever before in human history prior to the 1980s. In other words the modern global economy is a black box gigacasino run for the investment banks by central banks.the Real Economy of goods-services-commodities, that 99.9 percent of all of us subsist in and require to survive, may as well not exist; it is totally segregated and walled off from the Financialized global gigacasino where all of the wealth is generated and sequestered.
I’m not sure how it plays out, but I suspect Baron walks away with some very nice gains.
>>530608689You were so close. You almost got it, then shat the bed in your final paragraph. >>530609289This isn't about releasing SPR.They would create a hedge fund of sorts, backed by the Treasury, that would sell oil futures.>>530608436Bingo>>530616217More importantly it will happen in gold at some point, and the is when the reset will be upon us. Silver is just the warm up.
>>530619339This anon has a grasp on the financial-economic history of how the world 21st century today, is the way it is.(post-WWII futures markets, were just a tiny microscopic baby step in the direction of the mega tsunami that would occur after 1980)
>>530622315here's the 4chan explanation
>>530608580Exactly correct. Oil would be about $130 right now without the CIA interventions.
>>530608233Well now we know what he's going to do and the result.
>>530613284>stock market and the derivatives market are not the same thingCorrect.Main thing to remember is that all of this stuff in global finance and the economy is *interleveraged* (in some instances to incredibly massive magnitudes). Many of the same entities and HNW industries, individuals, asset markets are cross-leveraged with each other. Banks and mutual/pension funds included. One speculation depends entirely on the/each other, and so on ad infinitum. (Yes, it actually fr is picrel)When global liquidity dries up, as it is now today (and was in 2007, and in mid-2019) then you start to get margin calls or other instability.Add, to the liquidity problem globally overall, that nobody wants to buy the debt. Many big central banks have had to put unsold bonds back onto their balance sheets (e.g. Bank of England a few years ago in order to prevent total collapse of U.K. pensions)
>>530608301>What does this mean, somebody explainThey're warning that if Trump uses imaginary assets to manipulate the price of real goods the effects will be disastrous.
>>530627235>Many big central banks have had to put unsold bonds back onto their balance sheetsOh they did more than that, in 2022 they paid banks well over market for busted bonds when that woman was briefly pm and the nice nigger was finance boy. Liquidity is backed by money printer and now bunny money
>>530608436And that's just where the fun begins!
>>530626863Blackrock is in deep shit right now - they have prevented their customers from pulling money from the project, and more and more want out. They'll have to sell assets to get new funding, but that's against their MO.
>>530608301it means he wants to continue playing financial gamesexotic betting schemesof wall street
>>530612975This would actually be smart for a variety of reasons (parents get to spend time with their kids instead of sending them to fucking daycare). But it won't happen because real estate jews would screech, and corporations couldn't justify their big self-fellaciating mega campuses. There's basically no reason to even have a central office in this day and age of fast and pervasive internet. But here we are.
>>530608233>If you do this, the dollar will dieIt would be extremely painful
>>530608436ah thank you for explainingonce the bill comes due and someoneneeds something realtheir shell games collapsebasically the same as fractional reserve banking
>>530608301They have a bunch of very wealthy people gambling that the price of oil will go up in the future. If Trump manipulates the prices, such as releasing the SPR or cutting a deal with Iran (read: surrendering Israel to them), so that the prices stay relatively stable or, God help them, even drop, a lot of very rich and very powerful people are going to lose a LOT of money.It's essentially a veiled threat: "don't fuck with our schemes or we're gonna make Sodom and Gomorrah look like child's play in comparison". The wealthy people will gut the COMEX first and hire hits on all the COMEX manager's heads, and then hire hits on Trump.Turns out, rich gambler mafioso type people don't like when someone fucks with their money.
>>530627644(as posted ^^^upthread) Look up this search term in archive.4plebs>financializationEverything is fake and backstopped by infinite quantities of debt note fiat currency after 2008.'Capitalism' died and permanently went to heaven in 2008. Since then, all HNW entities, sovereign governments, asset markets, transnational corporations, global investment banks, hedge funds are totally dependent on infinite supplies of debt note fiat currency from private central banks to keep from instantaneous implosion.Whatever this is rn 2009—2026, isn't capitalism.>2022 England P.M.See picrel and this thread (video):https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/522930520* Central banks control every national government. Not heads of state
>>530608233Bad language to use when trying to dissuade a bunch of demented christian zionists trying to get raptured before they die.
>>530628159You can probably argue capitalism hasn't existed since the great depression
>>530628117and we dont like when they fuck with our economythey can get fucked
>>530608301Take an iceberg chart. Tip of the iceberg is the visible financial sector, stocks, bonds, etc.The part of the iceberg underwater is the derivatives market.Derivatives are literally gambling contracts. This is not hyperbole. It is gambling on top of gambling. Layered gambling, where one person can gamble on the whether or not another person can payoff their gambling. This is infinitely recursive.The derivatives market is worth quadrillions of dollars and has been the cause of literally every market crash since it's inception. I wouldnt be surprised to find out that invading Iran was to cover up a derivatives hiccup.Remember: the market does not follow the news, the news follows the market.
>>530608400my sides are in orbit
>>530628159So the correct play is to deploy your capital speculatively frontrunning the money printer and boomer pensions and living mobile innawoods
>>530608301Trump loves to hang put with the bros who create artificial bubbles lime crypto and AI to creste artificial wealth.Said wealth looks infinite, but it takes one faggot cashing in for billions to disappear with disaster for all those who invested.This already happened, but Trump is friend with these faggots and it remove the barriers stopping them from abusing this shit instead of making sureone faggot can’t magically make a billion people poor.Now he wants go invest in it with your tax money. Prepare to pay 200% more taxes to fill the hole once Tump gets rugpulled.
>>530627960No, it is not the same (as 1:9 reserve lending) although that is a related lower-order aspect.>when the bill comes dueWatch this highly educational and enjoyable 42-min documentary:The Money Delugehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m49vNjEGs>"I'm a former banker, now retired. I can't say that with pride anymore. They're casinos now."—Zurich citizen, quoted in 'The Money Deluge'>betting schemesEntire post-1970s Financialized global economy is. That is how all of 21st century wealth is generated, from : speculative debt instrumentsRefer to posts upthread ^^^^
>>530628351You mean like the US and Israel attacking Iran when physical delivery of silver was supposed to start
>>530608301if Iranian strikes hit 8%, the economy is over
>>530608301money printer can't go brrrrrr no more
>>530608233>a biblical disasterso that means jews will suffer, then
>>530628450See the guy (lives on a farm) interviewed in first part of 'The Money Deluge'YT URL just posted ^^
Wha happened to all the Venezuela oil. Wasn’t that the whole point of Venezuela? To have another source of oil in case this happened?
>>530609246not even close to blackrock and the whole private equity space.
>>530628489>teehee caught mesurface level schizo would say iran has lots of silver stockpiled
>>530628678Surface level schizo says cme is broke
>>530628764>cringe emojiAlways has been.
>>530627857>>530628610>BlackrockAladdin and BlackRock in 8 minutes>https://rumble.com/v2jt8h4https://rumble.com/v2jt8h4
>>530608233Don't you get it? Revealing the method. They are signalling to everyone in the know that a "biblical disaster" is about to happen, and on purpose.
>>530628576Tried to watch but I can't listen to strident women
>>530629051(No idea what you meant """"Swaziland flag"""")Documentary is a must watch and comprehend.
>>530608301g*mest*p probably. don't say it's name, it's the devil of the derivative market.
>Literally Who? has an opinion on social media.OH FUCKSHITFUCK!!! It's happening!!!
>>530626154>They would create a hedge fund of sorts, backed by the Treasury, that would sell oil futures.Why would you go through a middleman?I know, I know, Trump wants some personal profit too. But surely he would skip that in an emergency situation?That being said, if the US Government is dumping SPR, it should do so directly on the Exchange, and not go through a middleman (that the taxpayer has to pay).The only reasonable interpretation of an accusation of market manipulation, in this case, would mean the Treasury selling naked oil futures.
>>530629237The narrator is a woman. I know north Americans are used to listening to a woman badger them, but I am not. My brain tunes it out. Can we watch princes of the yen instead?
>>530617637Yes, then they'll blame you and try to force you to fight and die to fix their mistake.
>>530628908after 2 minutes of ads
>>530629322keep lying, shill
>>530608233>>530608301it means gamestop wins
>>530616050Get over it baggie.
>>530608301It's yet another example of a so called "expert" telling Trump he can't do something simple and obvious for some undefined and unmeasurable apocalyptic reason. Trump will go ahead and do it anyway and there will be absolutely no measurable downside whatsoever, leading us to wonder (((who))) this so called expert is actually allied with and what value his expertise ever had. Many such cases!
>>530629735shouldnt have fucked with game stop bro, now you fucked up
>>530608475>up is down>black is white>grass is bluekys
>>530608436This. Nothing people in the financial industry fear more than price discovery.
>>530608689is hard to me to understand because no amount of financial engineering or paper shuffling can refill empty oil tanks. prices might temporarily dip, but shortages would still trigger either black markets or rationing.I'll take this as a signal that this shit could end fast, hopium rather that desperatium
>>530627085Actually the opposite. Oil would be max $30 a barrel with all that's online now if it weren't for investment speculating prices up.
Trump is doing EVERYTHING he can to suprpess global oil prices but it won't work.Once he realizes it work work he'll limit his actions to just the US market where it might: at the end of the day he can force oil companies at gunpoint to sell at whatever price he dictates.
>>530630696considering US oil companies are state created monopolies I don't see why he wouldn't be able to tell them what to do
>>530608233Lots of big traders tried to pump and dump the Iran news thinking $200 oil was a sure thing.They are over leveraged and facing financial ruin.Iran conflict was always priced in but new traders have been coasting on big easy wins for 5 years or more. They're going to get raptured.I can't speak normie language anymore so best of luck understanding plebs.
>>530622222Checked
>>530629788get over it kike
>have all these coinflips every time i lose them>the hands i draw are terrible something like 2-3 ash blossoms and some other assortment of my tech with 0 starters even when going first>craft tenpai to embrace going second>suddenly my matchups are only negateslop and i never draw droplet>the one game i actually had a decent hand i missplayedNah screw this gay rigged game man. The draws and the flips are weighted for people that spend money or something. There is no other way to explain this. Even back in the day i never had such a bad luck streak. Screw this game it just isnt fun, fuck you KONAMI.
>>530629511use Brave (or ad blocker)moron>>530629458you can but First you need to watch that documentaryLook at the shills itt> "I-i c-can't watch it bcuzzz Ads and narrator"
>>530632863>wrong tabFFS really not my day todayApologies
>>530608301>Only WE can use the financial voodoo.
>>530608301Blumpf is doing something right for once by fixing prices
>>530633375It gets less and less probable every time you spam this pasta, kike
>>530628351It's not always gambling when kikes usually know the outcome from other kikes
>>530628117t.has no idea how derivatives workHe's already released a shitload of, IEA has released even more, what ever could be done has already been done and priced in.You don't understand how this shit works.If the US government starts shorting oil futures, either the taxpayer loses trillions or the market blows up in failure mode and the price skyrockets in response. Not delivering what you owe on a contract is how the entire system collapses.Do you remember when oil went negative, that was a result of fucking with derivatives.Do you remember when Goldman Sachs and others got assraped trying to short GME to the point that the Fed had to step in for financial risks to the banking system, its the same shit all over again.Except this time, you're cheering on the US taxpayer doing it rather than some bank or retarded investor that can fail
>>530633853Yes, casino capitalism might be a better word, since the house always wins.
>>530634060Or Casino Judaism
>>530608233why do religious people ruin everything anons? when are they going to leave it behind and just join in with the rest of humanity. their stupid fucking cliques with different hats. fucking antics in the middle east. there are serious people in the world, why do we tolerate these delusional fucks
>>530608301Some kike that makes billions doing nothing but making up numbers and playing with money that doesn’t actually exist is telling Trump that he’s not allowed to make up numbers and play with money that doesn’t exist.
>>530633128>Calls me a mean wordI was never nasty to you anon. It's too late in the game for me to listen to vids with shrill women. Why does that upset you? Do you have tits you would like to post? There must be a similar vid with soothing male voice. I suggested princes of the yen. It's not just the bankers who have fucked the world up, it's women too. I hope there aren't niggers in your documentary. Can you at least promise me that. I could try to skip over the woman preaching
Just take all the sanctions off Russia. I'm tired of pretending I'm supposed to be the enemies of my fellow whites
>>530634006Do you remember when America sneezed and the whole world got the coofhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_2019_events_in_the_U.S._repo_market
>>530634572They have to keep them on to look like their retarded prophecies come true
>>530608405Looks like the art of a magic card with a cool effect
>>530634440(You) started the butthurt whine """""Swaziland flag""""" 10 pbtidthe schtick isn't convincing
>>530622222checked but they aren't playing for just the US right now, they're playing for the entirety of globohomo here. >>530608675 is very poorly written but entirely correct. they're hoping to wait out the barrel prices going to catastrophic levels to make a buck. that may have been the goal all along but Trump's ego can't handle this level of failure so he's trying to weasel out and ease the damage. can't get half pregnant tho, the money is spent so if he stops the damage snowball now they're fucked.it's basically pic related with trump, israel, and iran.
REAL LIFE TRADER OR ACTUAL OIL says the real price on delivery is now $150-$200 in Asia. https://youtu.be/AJj-hO2mu4wThe US government is doing something to suppress derivatives prices, but can they stay diverged for long? Are people buying paper oil for $100 being sold a bill of goods that will never materalize? WYF is going on????
>>530608689>problem has a real tangible underlying cause that would take effort and diligence to solve>Trump wants a quick surface fix that would result in disaster elsewhere/in the long runhe truly is the orange nigger
>September_2019_events_in_the_U.S._repo_markethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMkq75L5n_k
>>530635070*of actual oilFor serious is the US Treasury buying futures at artificially low prices? Are they pressuring Wall Street firms to do so? Is the flood of fake news about ceasefires coming from the White House? Seems like the hole is being dug deeper and deeper. Cover up always worse than the scandal, but if in this case the cover up involves intentionally losing billions in government money to keep a headline number down for a few days, holy fuck....
>>530634006>that can failToo big to fail?>derivativesAll of them, no matter the sector / industry / asset market / bank / finance firm / hedge fund, are interleveraged
>>530635070Most of our oil doesn't come from dune coons so we aren't affected as much. It's the local area that's fucked.
>>530635455Bro, if you can sell oil for $200 in Australia, you're not going to sell it for $100 in America. That's why the price is global. The oil flows to the highest bidder.
>>530635601Trump will ban oil exports but only after he fails to rig the international price.PROTIP: buy oil now (as much leverage as you can manage), then sell when it's at $120 or $130 or so (to be conservative), then SHORT US oil producers as they'll have been run up in value just in time for Trump to collapse their value with export ban and maybe price controls.
>>530635601Yes which is why our prices are rising too. Just slower than Asia and the pacific. Europe wouldn't be so affected either if they weren't being faggots about the ruskies.
Daily reminder literally nothing in the Bible has ever come true or happened. At all.
>>530635253>Men narratesThat's better anon. Now stop projecting calling me a false flag whiner. If you take correction well that's great
>>530608233Do it. Let it all burn.
>>530608233It would probably moving all oil contract trading somewhere else where crooks won't try selling paper pieces as oil.
>>530636194Do a flip """Swaziland"""
>>530608301((((experts suggest)))
>>530636254>tfw the head of cme group done goofed
>>530608301a jew wants to keeps speculating on oil prices because he makes a mad dosh on goyim
>>530636564Truly the most hilarious and retarded timeline imaginable. Most episodes of Masters of the Universe had better writing for He-Man and Skeletor.
>>530636527Is that all you got? You resent that a man might enjoy being in a great Kingdom away from your grasping matriarchy and genital mutilation. I was supportive of everything you posted except a shrill harpy and you won't allow that without some sort of shaming attack. I hope you are a woman not a whipped simp
>>530608689the supply shock is due to market manipulation though.
>>530608233>biblical disasterOy veyHere's how I know Trump will likely get shitcanned post midterms. He's starting to piss off rich people, his real "base."
>>530618290What the hell are you talking about? You can see lightning with your own eyes, unaided. You don't need a camera, you just need to see a lightning strike and then just remember what it fucking looked like. There are even many kinds of weather conditions that cause lightning to linger for a second, sometimes longer.What the fuck was even the point of this post? Were you trying to claim that because 'before photography painters didn't know what lightning looks like' that must mean the painting is fake?
Anyone remember the 2019 Bilderberg meeting?They said the same thing.A war with Iran would cause a derivatives meltdown and an economic catastrophe.>The great Bilderberg secret of 2019 had to do with why, suddenly, the Trump administration has decided that it wants to talk to Iran “with no preconditions”.>It all has to do with the Strait of Hormuz. Blocking the Strait could cut off oil and gas from Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar and Iran – 20% of the world’s oil. >An American source said a series of studies hit President Trump’s desk and caused panic in Washington. These showed that in the case of the Strait of Hormuz being shut down, whatever the reason, Iran has the power to hammer the world financial system, by causing global trade in derivatives to be blown apart.>The Bank for International Settlements said last year that the “notional amount outstanding for derivatives contracts” was $542 trillion, although the gross market value was put at just $12.7 trillion. Others suggest it is $1.2 quadrillion or more.>Oil derivative specialists know well that if the flow of energy in the Gulf is blocked it could lead to the price of oil reaching $200 a barrel, or much higher over an extended period. Crashing the derivatives market would create an unprecedented global depression.
>>530636981dems dont have the county level control they once enjoyed under obama
>>530608758Its gambling in the markets because there is no other easy way to get rich in our service based, hyper-financialized fraud economy without federal investment.
>>530608960This. Futures markets are conflating its value with the commodity it represents. As people still foolishly believing in the futures market. By flooding the market with I.O.Us, it artificially drives down the price of the commodity by creating the illusion of supply. Even though you still end up paying a premium when you actually try to get the physical good.
>>530628486thank you for enlightening me
>>530608233>intervening in derivatives marketsIf Trump steals my new Porsche that might actually radicalize me enough to fly over & try to assassinate him.
>>530627910Commercial real estate is already in the shitter, REAL DEEP. Residential is also very slowly going to shit too.
Level playing field.
If the bklockade causes a depression not just for the US but for the world wouldn't that push other countries to assist the US in invading Iran? Is that what trump is maybe counting on? I don't think the other gulf states or european powers would want to the US to back out and leave the strait in Irans control in the future, surely they would just say fuck it and rather have a regime change or have some kind of coalition in control of the strait?
>>530608233>Telling death cult christians their actions will be "biblical"They're just flirting with each other now, right on my screen.
>>530636951>Is that all you gotHow is the weather in that Haifa bomb shelter?
>>530608301the jews will be unhappy if you mess with their profits (price of oil going up)biblical disaster usually means they will eat him and rape his kids
>>530638686Here's another must watch :97% Owned — How is money createdhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo>"The real money to be made in the world today is not by producing anything at all. It's simply by forms of speculating — basically making money from money. That's the most profitable, and by far and away the biggest form of economic activity that exists in the world today."—Nick Dearden, quoted in '97% Owned'
>>530638907We've been waiting for (both residential and) commercial real estate to implode for three straight years.Plate-spinning can't go on forever
>>530608301The end is nigh my friend.
>>530609045Higher prices decrease demand naturally. The government doesn't need to discourage you from driving on Sunday if the price at the pump doubles in 12 months
>>530608233>Lebanese paper
>>530640088I understand what you are saying, but if the government takes steps to force automakers to produce different kinds of vehicles and offers incentives for consumers to purchase them (and as the issuer of the currency the government has this power absolutely), you can achieve similar outcomes while also decreasing demand.If your personal passenger car gets 80mpg, the amount of rationing and limiting that needs to take place is lessened. Same thing if your passenger car runs on an overwhelmingly domestic fuel (like natural gas) or doesn't use liquid fuels directly at all (EV).
>>530639947Commercial has already imploded. We have had business towers and such being bought at a ~70% discount once the work at home damages from lockdowns materialized. Residential is currently going through its fuck around and find out phase as stubborn boomers are being exposed to reality of how broke everyone is. Could take a few more years, but we are in different times.
>>530608301Jews being Jews
>>530628246Yeah I see what you're saying but Bretton Woods 1944 is where the past eight decades global order was initiated. In a long haphazard journey of sometimes-unintended consequences, the entire world (unprecedented never before in human history, all 160 nation) now relies on a single default reserve currency denomination.When that goes, it all goes. (No, BRICS isn't going to 'replace' the dollar)Main reason is the debt market, global debt has to be paid in USD, the world's bond market is founded on treasuries.What does that mean? Since it is a global debt-based economic model, when the world's faith in the USD no longer holds the system collapses. All of it rests on confidence in the U.S. treasury's solvency that, besides the fact that no one wants to buy the debt, is pretty low right now given the $2T/annum U.S. Congress spending and half of that each year instantly vacuumed up by Interest Payments on federal debt. Unless America's annual GDP growth rate gets to around 6 or 7 percent in the next year or so, U.S. gov is headed for Total Default within four years, in other words the fedgov can't even keep up with Interest Payments on the debt rn let alone a few years from now (do you seriously forecast the U.S. annual federal budget getting smaller than $2T/year?)It's all based on debt and perpetual growth of spending-debt.When the bond/debt market goes so goes it all
>>530608233OH FOR CHRISTS SAKE DONT GIVE HIM ANYMORE IDEAS.
>>530639495All other western countries have gutted their military harder than US, nobody has the capacity from the Saddam Hussain era
>>530638020>service based, hyper-financialized fraud economy
>>530608436yep, you can ignore reality, doesn't mean reality will ignore you.
>>530640804>All of it rests on confidence in the U.S. treasury's solvency that, besides the fact that no one wants to buy the debt, is pretty low right now given the $2T/annum U.S. Congress spending and half of that each year instantly vacuumed up by Interest Payments on federal debt.The United States is a monetary sovereign -- it does not need anyone to buy its debt. Paying interest on bonds is a SERVICE the US does for buyers, not the other way around.The currency issuer cannot borrow its own currency.And as a monopoly operation, the central bank and the treasury can set their respective interest rates wherever they want. There is no actual market mechanism at play here. If the Treasury wants 0% yield on bonds, it can set them there.>but no one will buy them at that price!So? Change the self-imposed restraint that prevents the central bank from buying on the primary market. So it's rather straightforward to bring the interest rate below the growth rate, because the interest rate can be set wherever they want it to be.
>>530641560The contemporary global economy is like one of those Merry Melodies Bugs Bunny or Wile E. Coyote cartoons, where he keeps nailing boards together end-onto-end further and further, for miles long, away from the edge of the cliff>'t-the line only goes up'
>>530642061(You) have absolutely Zero idea what you're posting about. None
>>530640804>When the bond/debt market goes so goes it allYour writing reminds me of SETF. He and I eventually reached detente back when I was shilling platinum under a different flag before I sold too early. I'm watching the Aussie 10y cunt. It's about to cross 5%. It did so briefly on Monday. When the US 10y crosses 5 that's effectively a half default; America can monetize it's debnts. It will be the end of pax Americana, but not the end of the world
>>530642299What does the United States Treasury accept as payment for the bonds that it issues?
>>530628525It reaches a point where, the debt issued can't all be boughtYes, debt has to be bought. That is what the debt-based economic model is founded and relies upon.When people stop buying the debt you have a problem (the greater the magnitude of global debt, the bigger the problem)https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/500310690
Just take the L and let the world experience how retarded you are
>>530642717Bonds are sold to drain reserves to support the central bank's interest rate target. If the bonds reserves were not drained they would pile up in the banking system and drive the overnight interest rate (the rate at which banks lend to each other) to zero.
>>530642497>(kvetching about bond market rates<-that is not the topic here, and the 50-IQ didn't understand what was posted to begin with)What is money?How is money createdhint: videos have been posted upthread to crib the answer
>>530642061Interest rates measure's risks, if you suppress that through QE or whatever program or manipulate it you create "Hot money" that seeks yield, It's like asking someone to buy a 100 yr US Treasury at 0% interest. No one would take that offer. All you do is transfer a debt crisis to a currency crisis.
>>530609007conservitards will become stalinist before bothering to invest money into the men that fuel their countryLMAO! Thank you for your attention to this matter!
>>530642904>Bonds are soldonly when someone-something buys them.They go back onto the central bank's balance sheet
>>530608301it means die for israel goy
>>530642497Federal Reserve Bank notes. Backed by debt
>>530627960Not exactly, it's more that it distorts supply and demand. Price of something rises -> more people are drawn to supply it, and means of supply that might not have been economical before, become economical. For example, greater development of shitty tar sands oil in Canada. This brings supply back up and helps let the market recover from not having access to the Strait of Hormuz.Suppress the price, and this price signal can no longer take place. So supply stays low, and you remain stuck in shortages instead. It's the same reason rent control doesn't work and actually makes the housing situation worse. It's the reason price controls on ANYTHING, EVER, have always just led to shortages. Price controls do not work.
>>530639947why do you think they forced everyone back to the office except to bolster CRE and wait for the next ronas
>>530608301derivative market leader knows ot is fake and gay, and cannot be used to directly (without extensive bank shuffling jewish tricks) exchange for a very real thing such as fuel on a large enough scale to affect the fuel price
>>530640088>>530640376reminder there would be no EV market at all if it werent for government subsidies
>>530642418>SETFidgaf about the 'sound money' (or cryptotard) obsessives, though people such as Peter Schiff, Mike Maloney are obviously and demonstrably correct about some aspects of this.All of this meta-macroeconomic stuff goes way, way beyond the monetary policy/system.It's about the Financialized global economy and it being entirely wholly totally founded as a Debt-Based Economic Model. <--That's it that's the topic(in addition to the debt denomination unit, as never before in human global history all 160 nations, reliant upon 1 single default reserve debt note fiat currency)
>>530642717>Yes, debt has to be bought.By the CB using proxies. Money printer goes brrr. You let bond yields rise another percent which wipes 10 percent of their market value. That's tightening and mainly a tax on foreign CBs. You reinflate a little transferring wealth from workers to boomers; it's easy peesy
>>530608233> biblical disasterThat wording is how you know precisely this is (((their))) plan from the get-go> CBDC imminent
>>530642061The ultimate problem with MMT is this, and you cannot avoid it. It's re-arranging deck chairs to work around a debt crisis and transfer it to a currency crisis, the "Quick fix" is raise taxes, but then this becomes politically unpopular to try and reign in inflation, but then you logically get to the next and final end game "easy fix".JUST LIE ABOUT THE REAL RATE OF INFLATION, and it's especially worse under MMT because the ONLY self checking mechanism is Government admitting to the real rate of inflation. And now we're basically back to square 1.
>>530643419Yes (as posted above) back onto the central bank's balance sheetor as also previously noted Bank of England rescue operation for U.K. pensions
>>530608233Biblical disaster for who? We get 7% or oil from Middle East. Not us. Ditch the sanctions on Russia import their oil and tap more reserves idgaf about India China or Europe. Get a bike.
>>530643541>MMt>It's re-arranging deck chairs to work around a debt crisis and transfer it to a currency crisis
>>530609733which wouldve been fine had they not started another jewish war near the world's oil refinery
>>530608233If this isn't hyperbole than Trump should do it. I was 2 billion dead Indians, starvation, war, chaos everywhere. A big reset that leads to only competent young white people surviving and all the dysgenic trash dying off.
>>530622315It makes more sense when you think about farmers.This started because farmers needed to be able to finance their operations without going bust any time there was a glut or drought or whatever.So at the start of the season they’d agree to “sell” their future crop at X price. The buyer is hoping that once harvest comes the market price is actually higher than X so he can make a nice profit. The farmer is ensured that he will earn enough to keep his operation going in case of disaster. If the buyer is right in his prediction then the farmer will make less money than he would have otherwise but it’s worth it for him to mitigate risk.It’s all hedging and this makes it possible for firms to keep operations running smoothly when there might be a volatile prices. Imagine if your factory suddenly had to shut down because oil went up 20% for a 3 week period. Better to pay a premium and get it at a known price in advance than be at risk for something like that.
>>530612975many people never went back to the office. Theres no reason whatsoever to commute every day just to sit at the same computer.>inb4 muh efficiencyPay your workers for amount of work done not for hours, easy.
>>530608301Basically GME but with OilAlso the game Gamestop shit isn't over. Kikes are still trying to suppress it.
>>530633375>end poverty, protect the planet, and ensure peace and prosperity for all by 2030Man, you trippin
>>530643401>Debt-Based money system is blownWe know that since 2008; we could live with that but this foney pricing mechanism is worse than communist price controls. Obviously it is rigged to blow so that a pound of barley is a days pay. They need to fulfill the book
>>530608233>bringing the fact that most of the economy is just psycho shitheads gambling to everyone's attention
>>530608301A financial speculator wants to scare Trump into allowing him to reap massive profits at the expense of everyone else
>>5306441372019 was another fracture in the system, they bailed it out for four months until, magically in Jan 2020 along came covidAnd with it another $12T in liquidity to keep the global investment bank gigacasino merrily rolling along (until early 2023 when SVB imploded... the past three years have been platespinning to keep the Grand Illusion alive)Prescient December 2019 panel (one month prior to covid) discussion about the state of global debt and USD default reserve denomination:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMHQaxd5N-Q
>>530643960>Theres no reason whatsoever to commute every day just to sit at the same computer.this is why the WEF wrote policy papers about how will we get people back to the office, we have all these CRE obligationsbefore all of a sudden every WEF affiliated corp out there told all their employees you have to come back to the office, we're not going to fire you if you dont come back, but it will be treated as an unplanned absence and as you know, have 7 or so of them and we fire you
>>530644497based knower
>>530643250The government's own currency. That's what it accepts. So that currency must logically exist first or else no one would have it to buy bonds in the first place.The only thing the government accepts as payment for its debt its own IOU. It doesn't need anyone to buy its debt.
>YOU CANT JUST FIX EVERYTHING HOW WILL I STEAL FROM THE LOWER CLASS!?!
>>530612975The e tire covid pandemic was an exercise in demand side controls to slow money velocity and stop an economic crash. Mossad planting dirty bombs and blaming Iran is likely their lockdowns 2.0 plan.
>>530643400The entire point of government money is to subsidize. The government must spend before anyone else has income, that which is not taxed back (the deficit) is left behind as surplus for the private sector.
>>530644646>fall 2019 overnight repo bailouts pre-coronaalso a video here >>530635253
>>530608863Bury your Labubus
>>530643541MMT is telling you quite clearly that there is no debt crisis. The actual limitation is real resources. The government can never run out of its own money. It can run out of real resources. It can experience unwanted or unmanageable levels of inflation. But it can't run out of money. It doesn't need its own money from the population. It creates its own money every. time. it. spends.
>>530644693>MMT shillbot 'doesn't need anyone to buy its debt'Yes it does because Interest Payments instantly vacuum up fully half the fedgov's annual $2T approved by Congress,and (as repeatedly documented-explained upthread) the entire world has an eagle eye on the U.S. treasury's solvencythat isn't looking good at all whatsoever, these daysIt's a Debt-Based Economic Model globallythat means: when you are issuer of the world's default reserve currency denomination, the whole world looks to see that you're doing a consistent good job keeping up with those Interest Paymentsdon't fall behind
>>530645014>creates its own money
>>530645214The US makes interest payments the same way it pays for anything else -- it credits a bank account. There is no conceivable reality in which the US cannot make the interest payments as they are all denominated in the currency of which it is the sole manufacturer.
>>530645214Here she blows
>>530628117what about hits on those wealthy people?
>>530645426>no conceivable reality 'in my mind'Except the *actual reality* in which Interest Payments now exceed (graph) >>530640804 annual fedgov discretionary spending.Just to barely keep ahead of this (we're not now, being tsunami swamped by it where Interest Payments will be twice the magnitude of discretionary spending within a few years), the U.S. needs to have its annual gdp growth into the 6 or 7 percent range out of its anemic ~2.5% rnAnd, as already explained, none of this addresses the $2T+ per-year growth of the fedgov budgetsapproved by U.S. Congress, we're at $39 trillion national debt and skyrocketing.
>>530645514Bond yield spikes are lots of fun
>>530645426Bonds are devaluing faster than they accrue interest. It's free money. Foreign CBs pay the price, but they domping. Boomers pensions just get bailed out. They will reinflate; $100 oil solves this
>>530608233my financial advisor lied to me. my portfolio is tied up in dildos and meth. stupid cat.
>>530629415There was an article in AP perhaps a week ago about this. Bissent's a former hedgie so is in the know.To answer your question, which I take to be why waste time with futures when they can just dump SPR? The answer is leverage. Way more bang for the buck selling naked oil futures. The really fucked up thing is having the AP run an article. If they were really doing this, they'd have to keep it quiet because speculators at some point could push them which could result in the "biblical disaster" the CME is warning about. Like what Soros, Bissent's former boss, did to the Bank of England back in the day.So perhaps it was just jawboning to help get prices back under $100. Give traders the idea that at some point the feds may be dumping futures. Perhaps even to stimulate front running of that possibility (ie speculators selling short in hopes of buying back when Treasury comes in and sells at lower prices).Because as a trader, if I were to know for a fact that the govt was selling oil futures the first thing I'd do is sell oil futures as well. Anyone who has traded the yen knows the games involved in front running BOJ intervention.The biblical situation would need a catalyst. Selling oil futures would probably work really well for them... until it doesn't.
>>530645764>gdp growth into the 6 or 7 percent rangeNominalFrom your lips to Jamie Dimons ears;
>>530645764>we're at $39T national debtSo what? Public deficits are private surpluses. That debt is simply a record of the money spent into the economy that the government has not removed through taxation.
>>530645950They papered over gold and silver for 47 years. But given that the only reason the press talks is to lie and everyone including Jim Cramer is trying to talk up oil, my guess is this is the top and the government will be buying it for the boomers
>>530646239>doesn't read or comprehend rest of post>cherrypicks 5 words to springboard more nonsensical MMT upchuck
>>530608632Dye iz gon crash out!
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>>530646616>Debt based money When that represented a call on white man's skills it had some value. But what African warlord wants to send his children to a feminised university, but a Guatamalan built house or pay Ranjeet to no enshittify his stream. To save the dollar incel must sex
>>530646440always do the opposite of what Jim Cramer saysit's the only way to be sure
>>530639853wow, its really badeconomists dont even get it let alone politicians
>>530630084>up is down>black is white>grass is blueThis is the leftist mantra. You had to learn to invert reality while your mom's bf was pounding your asshole.Anywho SA is already selling at 80% capacity to their safe Eastern port out of terror left reach
