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Day 1,479 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research

▶Latest
>Massive Storm Shadow strike at Kremniy-El microelectronics factory in Bryansk
>russians lost rare 98L6 Yenisei radar from S-500 system, brought to Crimea to cover gaps left by Ukrainian drone strikes
>AFU sent drone experts to protect US bases in Jordan, Zelenskyy tells NYT
>Counteroffensive ongoing on southern front line t. Syrskyi
>3 Gulf states ask Ukraine for thousands of interceptor drones
>UA Shrike Fiber drone wins top place in Pentagon drone procurement program
>The UK government has announced the existence of four maintenance facilities in Ukraine
>Ukraine hits russian Shahed-type drone storage in Donetsk airport with SCALP, ATACMS missiles, military says
>Slovakia will block 90 billion loan to Ukraine
>500 Ukrainian servicemen were released from russian captivity in two prisoner swaps
>Hungarian authorities have effectively taken hostage seven employees of Ukrainian state savings bank - Ukrainian FM Sybiha
>Orbán malding about alleged threat from Zelenskyy
>US and Gulf countries in talks over purchase of Ukrainian Shahed interceptors
>A sanctioned russian LNG tanker SUNK off the coast of Malta and Libya
>Ukrainian Navy downed a Ka-27 russian helicopter
>russians Shot Down Their Own Ka-52 helicopter
>putin increases russia's regular army personnel to nearly 2.4 million
>Saratov refinery droned
>5 russian military ships were damaged as a result of the attack on the port in Novorossiysk two days ago

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>>530646617

When will the pigkraine stop losing?
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TZD
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boots on the ground?
trump is not that retarded, is he?
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>>530646412
Good evening to you, Monte. How are you friends in russia coping?
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>>530646909
I'm starting to notice how MNE stray dogs only ever bark on gypsies and turks...
>>530646991
Well one of them moved to Belarus...
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>>530646924
>We're about to get daily drone videos of marines being yeet'd in Iran
based
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zigger bake
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You have no cards.
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>>530646617
>we will see female androids crush zigger skulls with their giant asses in our lifetimes
Blessed timeline.
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>>530646991
+Good evening, Taras, I hope you and yours are fine at least
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>>530647078
Nuh uh
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>>530647090
I feel the stuff that impressed Pentagon the most is this French one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrOW7XQ5Zq4
And if US ever needed help defending anything, it's their arab "allies" in ME from Shaheds.
Geran BTW is Iranian Shahed copy of US drone, that Russia licensed as Geran. A conga line of rip-offs.
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>>530646924
yes he is, he also rejected Ukraine's offer to help with drones
burgers have no idea how modern war works, they still think you fight drones with insanely expensive limited interceptors
they still do not understand shaheds or fpvs and how their troops are not immune to them
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>>530647090
Good luck, lil' Donny
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>>530647307
>burgers have no idea how modern war works, they still think you fight drones with insanely expensive limited interceptors
I feel like that's not the truth. US transitioned to forward ops running in high-speed, low drag unarmored buggies full of recon and strike drones, presumably for Taiwan' defense island hopping.

The defense? They are probably thinking of flattening and decapitating opposition with air and missile strikes like they did in Iran, then drone barrages would only be sporadic.
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pedo zigger bake
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>>530647307
this is such a mess already, just imagine what will happen if US will actually send ground troops
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chudpill me about Ivano-Frankivsk
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>>530647526
We're going to see some new force-multipliers, like ACOGs caused so much accurate headshots that Iraqis cried US was executing their troops against Geneva convention.

Perhaps sensor fusion infantry packs, or new gen of unmanned ground robots.
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>>530647042
>stray dogs only ever bark on gypsies and turks...
Well, they say that dogs can feel things, so...

>Well one of them moved to Belarus...
Based on the internet blocking or something else?
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>>530647654
>Based on the internet blocking
Yeah pretty much, got tired of dodging DPI for his work. I feel like Lukashenko is making it a feature to attract high-paying Russians.
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>>530647523
I’m not a zigger
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>>530647645
something tells me china is not going to sit idle and if this war will get prolonged they will send aid to Iran, officially or not. This could be a golden opportunity for Xi to weaken America and get it bogged down in a forever war, all because their leader happened to be a corrupt retard that surrounded himself with yes-men advisors (sounds familiar doesn't it).
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>>530648003
Pedo jeet, or pedo chinksect
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>>530648028
Well they sat idle for now and it's not like any amount of Chinese air defense would help. They have sats so they can pass intel to Iran same as Russia, but that doesn't help without means of delivery. Maybe they can send their own SCUD, but that would be too much on the nose.

China did well transitioning away from carbonhydrates energy. Have you seen their new Tibet hydroplants, giant-ass transformer stations and commertial supercritical generators? CN commies are dumb in some regards, but not in terms of energy apparently.

So they don't need Iran or Russia so much.
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>>530648177
>cuteness aggression
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>>530646924
>trump is not that retarded, is he?
:)
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>>530648028
china only flex to SEA only since it can be argued to be the contested area between western navy (or maybe us navy?) and their navy

provoking the war in the east asia is not only a hassle but bound to be a forever war on steroid

and right now china is rather fine at the very least so no need for offensive war
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>>530646412
>Schizo: Drones
>Schizo pro max: Anti-coup
monki anon delivering excellent quality medium-rare shizo post as ever
good to see you back
how are you holding up?

>>530647113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLqKTMzfqxA
dude i fucking hate these auto playlists
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>>530647117
More or less, these days I'm more worried for one of my zoomer friends who hopped the border into Poland. Basically he's grinding his way into getting his first IT job with my help, but oh boy is he quick to frustrate.
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>>530648476
I feel like unlike Iraq, in Iran, US troops will have major support from populace.
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>>530648224
yeah their transition away from coal and oil is impressive but afaik china still uses significant amounts of them so it will take a few years until they will be free to not care about supply issues such as the current one, I don't think they are very happy about the Ormuz strait being blocked and oil prices going up
I feel like this war in Iran can be a real mess if trump won't bail out soon
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>>530648552
Is he even able to withstand niggers around every corner there? I heard that place is almost as brown as Germany in immigrant places
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>>530647832
Should work on migrating outside of the pidor orbit IMO. Belarus is at best a temporary thing, it's not like monke would tolerate it being a breach into normality.
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>>530647307
>burgers have no idea how modern war works
remember the one time us sunk an intermediate rifle cartridge until they found out that full auto rifle cartridge is hard to be controlled?

military tech is quite fascinating as you can see the most advance technology work alongside with the most backward technology
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>>530648554
maybe in Tehran and other bigger cities they will (not necessarily as big chucks of said cities were bombed into oblivion) but i'm sure the hardliners are still strong enough to inflict some losses
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>>530648028
>china is not going to sit idle
They'll fall on their face like russia, simple as.
It's quintessentially a soviet regime, just with more money, better PR and exotic asian shit clouding people's minds.
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>>530648554
Yeah Iranians hated those schoolgirls, they're glad they are gone
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I love dead russians. Dead invader is a good invader.
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>>530648692
Nah, he chose Poland specifically (vs Germany and such) because it's orders of magnitude less brown than Western Europe.
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>>530648886
always
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>>530646617

When will the pigkraine stop losing?
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>>530648028
China won't do shit. They will do nothing and lose as always.
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>>530648552
If he's young - he'll live.
>>530648540
Salutations, Hans, pretty good. I escaped winter in Russia but nobody told me it could straight up heavy rain here for two whole months here in winter. I got some dieting to do now before beach season.

>>530648620
They might not be happy with Iranian oil, but they can demand whatever discount they want from Russia right now. Because without Chinese component imports, Russian war grinds to a halt. Not to mention economy in general.

>>530648708
He's the most mobile and high-earning person I know, but he is very attached to motherland, as we joke, to the birches. If SHTF really he can go to fucking New York and live there until he finds a job (fast), he did that already.

I guess he's not as neurotic as me and can handle current amount of pressure in RU.

>>530648797
US doesn't really bomb in oblivion. It bombs strongholds of security, military and intelligence forces and then invades co-op with "rebel" forces like Kurds CIA was in bed with for decades.

>>530648821
If not fake, it happens.

>>530648886
Pretty much. Should not have gone over to kill fellow slavs for money.
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>>530648988

Pigkraine lost :)
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>>530649595
True
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>>530650400

Pigkraine lost :)
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>The US has transferred 10 thousand Merops drones, which were developed in Ukraine, to the Middle East to protect against Iranian UAV attacks, — Bloomberg
>The cost of one drone is about 14-15 thousand dollars, but with large orders it can drop to 3-5 thousand — this is much cheaper than using air defense systems like Patriot or THAAD, where one interception can cost more than 4 million dollars.
>Trump, what's with the face?
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>>530649595
Oh man I'm glad it's a zigger and not a human and cannot feel pain or fear
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>>530646617

When will the pigkraine stop losing?
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>>530650541

Pigkraine lost :)
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Guys, can you do something funny again like Operation Spider Web? Maybe send a container ship full of drones to Murmansk and sink everything in sight?
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>>530650480
NOoooooo she has her airpods in !!!
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>>530650466
The teachers that currently shill in Russian schools, technicums and universities for male students to join SMO, must be executed.
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>>530650810
I'm more moderate and think every pidor must be executed.
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>>530650810
Especially the female ones
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>>530650810
>The teachers that currently shill in Russian schools, technicums and universities for male students to join SMO, must be executed.
Why ?
They are making sure shelomova's ethnic replacement get achived as fast as possible
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>>530650869
The ones that went over to attack fellow slavs unlawfully are a given. But the subhumands that helped falsify elections and gaslight teenagers into conscription, they should be burnt on Gazprom gas, on red square, in front of Lubyanka FSB HQ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZWDke-bpmc
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>>530650810
shouldn't all of them?
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>>530650810
>The teachers that currently shill in Russian schools, technicums and universities for male students to join SMO
they really returned to great war jingoistic gobbledygook?
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>>530651087
>what I'm reading RN
Some teachers are fine. Even the ones that failed my diploma defense wasn't evil.

It's the ones that gaslight Russian youth into joining meatgrinder purely for ambition of Kremlinoids, that must burn slowly.

>>530651199
There are no more muzhiks left to tap into.
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>>530651272
keep fucking over normies wealth and you'll definitely could get more muzhiks

but then again only time could tell if future russian ruble will be as worthy as germany reichsmark in 1945
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>>530651564
All the "useless" males unneeded by anyone already joined in/were forced to mobilize. Russia didn't have that deep of a demographic pool to begin with. Deeper than Ukraine for sure, but not deep enough to sustain mindless assaults model fostered by the idea of keeping military leadership unpopular and incompetent to prevent coup.

This war is like kremlinoids having continously to shoot themselves in the foot because they can't appoint effective and popular military commanders in fear of being overthrown.
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>>530647473
I don't think the US will defend Taiwan
What w*llhelm2 was to Germany trump was to america
It's unraveling now
The corrupt international billionaire aligned elites will plunder and rape until the well that better men had built in the nation of America has dried up

>>530648812
You are severely underestimating the military and industrial breadth and depth of China.
This isn't the 1980s anymore.

>>530649075
>Salutations, Hans, pretty good. I escaped winter in Russia but nobody told me it could straight up heavy rain here for two whole months here in winter. I got some dieting to do now before beach season.
>dieting
uwu, clap those monki cheeks for me you little vain bitch <3
Just kidding, good on you, wishing you and to a success with your health goals
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>>530652029
>USA has its Wilhem II
>Right when Russia has its Napoleon III
Dare I dream?
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>>530652029
>I don't think the US will defend Taiwan
I don't really think that is necessary. Everyone around is very invested into its defense like South Korea, Japan, Australia and even strait countries like Philippines that can blockade China. It's not going to go the way Xi thinks and he would be better off speedrunning domestic ASML in 10 years rather than risking costly Taiwan assault. But I hope he tires so I can have one China (non-commie one) in my lifetime.
>health goals
Man I'm at the age where I should shove camera up my ass. Should probably get to it sooner rather than later.
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>>530652226
if things align properly Europe can end up being the winner
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>>530652029
>military and industrial breadth and depth
This won't matter if the war kicks off in its earnest.
China can't even feed itself. And for all its industry it's still an export driven economy. The first thing which will go is chink trade.
The amount of shit china will lose before it starts figuring out the war will be insane. Because like all soviet-regimes it's a paper tiger where everything is about make belief, propaganda and other retardation. It doesn't matter how many missiles you have when they're fueled by water instead of jet fuel. And when they'll break their own face in with the failed initial campaign it will be too much for their internal system to pivot into fighting efficiently.
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>>530652269
>he would be better off speedrunning domestic ASML in 10 years rather than risking costly Taiwan assault.
He wants Taiwan not for TSMC but for the same reason Monke wants Ukraine: "banan".
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>>530652226
I dunno but behead those who praise willy
The wannabe nobles of today must either be deposed or killed
But our societies are gerontocracies and even peasants from 200 years ago seem to be more imaginative and capable of political thought than the fucking lemmings that we seem to have become

>>530652269
I dunno man, there might be a similar situation and deciding factors with the ruling totalitarians in china as with monke in the so-called federation.
Their demography is hard-fucked and thus the decision and window for invasion is extra narrow
Hey man, at least the prostate grows with age :3
Oh fuck, all jokes aside, I dread the day I too will have to have a doctor shove a finger or cam up my butt
But whatever, millions of men deal with it and as things are by that time it will feel less humiliating due to the way society will have continued to change
Pre-natal microplastics exposure wont go down after all, much as right wingers might rave about cultural forces spreading homosexuality while endlessly campaigning for the continued acquiescence to unlimited corporate plastic pollution

>>530652547
>The first thing which will go is chink trade.
Didn't happen with russian oil exports and cheap chink goods have become the basis of this cancerous economic/hierarchical system we live under
>water instead of fuel
As fun as these salacious stories are, I doubt it's that bad because unlike the kremlin regime in russia still does hit down on its oligarchs
Just look at jack ma
I don't doubt there is corruption but I would think it's not that much higher than in e.g. hungary - possibly significantly lower
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>>530652518
You might be laughing but this retarded war will bring millions more refugees to Europe
fuck america, may it die fast in its own endless arrogance and hubris soon
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>>530652547
China lost to Vietnam and lost ASML support 8 years ago now all advanced chips are being imported.

China can't do modern war without imports.
China improrts go through 100 mile wide straits in US-aligned countries.

No amount of paramilitary fisheries & artificial island airfields will fix this.

>>530652650
Then he will get it just the same.

>>530652874
I feel like cancer or "lifestyle diseases" will kill me long before microplasitc can make a debut in diagnosis.
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>>530652874
>Oh fuck, all jokes aside, I dread the day I too will have to have a doctor shove a finger or cam up my butt
not in the pipeline yet (thank god) but if it's done by a 40something milf with a nice ass i think i might just survive it
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>>530652874
>Didn't happen with russian oil exports
Only because we didn't have long enough arms. If we had a buttload of ballistic missiles, all of russian ports and pipelines would've burned up by now. I.e. it's a question of economics, logistics and capabilities. Nobody will send ships to ship your rubber dildo through a war zone.

>As fun as these salacious stories are, I doubt it's that bad because unlike the kremlin regime in russia
It's even worse than russia, you're just in denial in the same way you were in denial about russia pre-2022. With chinks it's a big obfuscated due to culture and language barriers.

>still does hit down on its oligarchs
>Just look at jack ma
You're missing the point. They've hit Jack Ma because he was unhappy with retarded state policies and spoke out about that. When the state does that it shows that it doesn't give a shit about the economy, just about staying in power. That's when you know the country is already on death row.

>I don't doubt there is corruption but I would think it's not that much higher than in e.g. hungary - possibly significantly lower
Sorry my friend, but you're delusional. Soviet regimes are hyper corrupt due to their own nature. Chinese economic reforms just splashed gasoline on the fire of corruption. First a bit during the 80s, but then in full force by 90s and 2000s. China is hyper corrupt. What you see in their media about "fighting corruption" is just smoke and mirrors for political repressions.
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>>530653032
>I feel like cancer or "lifestyle diseases" will kill me long before microplasitc can make a debut in diagnosis.
It was a tangent
I am simply joking about the fact that getting your ass fingered is considered gay and used to be way more taboo
Current day reactionaries see more non-normative sexuality and try to ascribe some sort of "it was propaganda that made them do that" (rather than simple lack of repression allowing freedom where previously there was obsequious compliance)
The joke in all this is that if there is anything that could possibly be construed to be "causing the gay" then it is the endocrine interference that microplastics are PROVEN to have on secondary physical sexual dimorphism in both mice and humans and could be REASONABLY SUSPECTED to play a role in altering the way the human brain is primed to develop and the psyche and deep-rooted preferences that might eventually emerge from it
After all we have heard for years that there is an unknown quantity of "born this way" with other sexual preferences besides the lack or presence of external threat of violence and hatred in a societal setting
And of course the nexus of right wingers - while complaining and bemoaning this new tolerance - invariably support everything and every actor that will ensure there will never be a lessening of the microplastics contamination of our food and bodies
This shit makes it through even the blood-brain barrier
Were a few anons here unfortunate enough to die and then an intrepid researcher took a brain matter biopsy there's like a 30% chance they will find traces of microplastics in the fucking brain

What I'm saying is that you don't hate billionaires and rapist-capitalism enough, the problem needs to be solved, kirkenuinely
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>>530653552
>sexuality & homo
Bro you can call me homo if that prevents ass cancer. Fuck that.
>you don't hate billionaires and rapist-capitalism enough
Eh I feel like plasic is more of a population did it to themselves out of convenience. Nobody could be assed to pay for plastic-free packaging, it's just too expensive in comparison.
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>>530652964
you can always say "no"
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>>530653734
The problem with packaging plastics (like PET) is, it is a recycled material to begin with. It is made out of the byproduct of petroleum exploitation, same as natural gas. So you can either get very cheap packaging that gets a whole life circle before becoming garbage, or just stay with the garbage.
This problem will exist as long as we keep extracting oil from the ground, making paper bags won't solve the systemic problem because the materials are already extracted, and we will need to find something to do with it.
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>>530653032
>Then he will get it just the same.
That's my point, yes.

>lost ASML support 8 years ago
Chips aren't the issue for them. Well, not the biggest issue at least. They've pumped a trillion dollars into the sector and despite 80% of the funds being fucked over they still got some domestic results.
No, the core issue for China are the a) demographics and b) internal stability:

a) The years of retarded "one child" policy coupled with the culture of killing girls until you finally birth a boy (due to socio-economic reasons) created the mother of all demographic collapses in the making. Chinks are already dying out in record numbers and there's no end in sight for this. Just like roller-coaster, they've went over the peak and will become way worse way faster than anyone would ever imagine. And there's nothing they can do, since there's literally not enough women in society to make even a dent in this progressing fuck up.

b) Kinda similar to russian society of the early 2000s, the chink society understood that the regime is gay and shit, but they were okay with that because the living standards improved year after year. That was the main basis for chink internal political stability. Well, the economy isn't the focus anymore, but political power is. That's why Xi JinPinya moved away from the political rotation what was done in CCP before. So in the long run the economy will get fucked either way. You've already seen first elements of that with the collapse of their housing shit (e.g. Evergrande). And thus the only way to fool society into supporting the regime will be a "reunification war" with Taiwan, which will wipe away all the issues and previous promises. "Who cares if the the economy is in tatters? We've reclaimed out holy Taiwan land" and such.
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>>530653278
Well sorry to pop your bubble bit this is how it will actually look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-bYSC6OT6s

>>530653460
>Nobody will send ships to ship your rubber dildo through a war zone.
What a travesty!
I guess you have a point, but overall I am very skeptical of continued US state capacity
A massive amount of it has been dismantled already
They purged anyone that actually understood how the middle east works (because they were saying "no this shit is retarded") and now fight a war in the middle east
The americans did the same shit when they perpetrated their crimes against humanity against the people of Vietnam
And we all know how that went for the US both in the immediate term and in the long arc of how it impacted policy, governance and (lack of) responsibility and accountability
>the state doesnt give a shit about economy
"the economy" is fake and gay when you mention it in the context of oligarchs
You believe more in "the economy" than these billionaires who planted that narrative for the sake of their continued illegitimate power
Not that the CCP isn't atrotcious - but you can see how pathetic Europe is for bowing down to capital like it has
Not strategic foresight, basis of life being eroded and traded away, birthrates in terminal decline due to society having deteriorated into a battle of all against all as is the ultimate endgame and inextricable internal contradiction of capitalism
>CCP regime doesn't fight corruption and is extremely corrupt
I really hope you are right but I doubt it
In general public office - yeah I belive it
But the military is a different matter, I think they have far more capabilities than you are willing to believe
Either way, as things are going and as the world is shifting to this same "multipolar order" (in truth just vying empires and power-grabbers) we knew in Europe from the 1900s onwards we will see anyways, possibly even before the end of this decade
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>>530653734
microplastics from trash are probably a relative nothingburger
the real deal of microplastics emissions are car tires and brakes, and nothing's gonna be done about those for a long while
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>>530653032
cont. >>530654193

That's how and why it will happen. But since chinks are a retarded soviet regime, they'll fuck themselves over and probably cause either the destruction of their regime (or potentially the country altogether) or internal issues which will reformat them into a more classic type of soviet regime, closed off from the world, more restricted and so on. Something in the range of DPRK <----> pre-perestroika USSR.
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>>530654262
>Well sorry to pop your bubble but this is how it will actually look
it was a joke, duh
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>>530654089
Won't happen due to the capital interests in Europe and much of the rest of the financial(ized) centers of the world
They will appeal to "le human rights" (without of course truly believing or practicing any of it) with the end goal being to extract more value from the works - and where they come from they are working hard to make matter less than ever before
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>>530654353
I did understand your joke
It was just an excuse to repost the video because I think it's hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuVNVyb2GYU
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>>530654193
>they still got some domestic result
Overhyped. Anything efficient and miniature still needs to be imported.

Yeah their demographic is fucked for how much they are focusing on domestic market.

>>530654129
I get that any "gentle" food plastic also gives out the most microplastic into the food packaged into it, but at the same time I don't want to be buying soggy beef in bioplastic or paper packaging.

>>530654268
IDK according to research they are in my balls which worries me.

>>530654337
I can live with that. GItS timeline is kino.
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>>530654262
>"the economy" is fake and gay when you mention it in the context of oligarchs
That's just your inner commie speaking out. Trust me, as a person whom was born in USSR, the economy is nowhere near as fake and gay as lefties want you to think.

>That's how and why it will happen. But since chinks are a retarded soviet regime, they'll fuck themselves over and probably cause either the destruction of their regime or internal issues which will reformat them
Bruh, the military is even more corrupt (and less professional) than the average levels. That's like an axiom.
Like look at how USSR at the height of its power fucked up in Afghanistan.
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>>530654611
>GItS
Sorry, you get "Gay In the Søy" instead
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>>530654784
>Like look at how USSR at the height of its power fucked up in Afghanistan.
It was good until towelheads got basic AA from CIA.
>the economy is nowhere near as fake and gay as lefties want you to think.
It's not as diversified and robust as capitalist countries. If anything, it's 99% on the shoreline behind vulnerable dams.

>>530654937
Damn, alright, I thought full body maid prosthetics weekends were too good.
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>>530654433
you can always say "no"
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>>530654611
>Overhyped. Anything efficient and miniature still needs to be imported.
It's overhyped because they need to show something for the fuck ton of resources they've put into local ICs, but in general there is a ton of progress and even the real less-glamourous results are pretty good. The main point is that they're still pushing for this, which is a good idea since you don't get good results with a single push (unlike retards in USSR thought about everything), but by constantly applying effort. And they're doing everything, including the shady shit (like espionage, poaching staff, etc), which will improve things for them.
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>>530654784
>the economy is nowhere near as fake and gay as lefties want you to think.
A system of selling and procuring services and goods is nowhere near as fake as I think (I don't)
What is absolutely destructive is endless oligarchization
Compare the wealth coagulation and gin-coefficients in the 90s to what is going on now, just 40 years later
A complex society where most people live well cannot last in a system where wealth endlessly accumulates at the top while getting wiped out everywhere else, sometimes (2008, etc) at much higher rates (and even then the usual suspects keep getting richer
Such a system at that scale of observation can no longer be called an "Economy", it is at those levels a system of power.
And that shit gets ever harder but also more brittle and either there will be some sort of new feudalism as we are already seeing develop or decades of misery
The most tragic thing about all of this is that Ukraine suffered so much only to join in on this kind of shit in the end
I hope you guys will manage to avoid the depredations of that shit
If you allow these ghouls that endlessly preach "the economy" over and over and over you will be flooded with jeets and never be able to afford a house because "the economy" will be based on elevating fake and gay financialized asset values rather than using an actual economic system to meet needs and assign value to scarce resources to distribute them with care (rather than simply allowing a few 0,0X% of the participants to endlessly hoard and drive up prices for rentseeking purposes)
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>>530655170
That's 10 years timeline not tomorrow, and 10 years from now Trump will be out of office.
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>tehran getting bombed by isr*el
>all "rusnigger" shills are deployed to the ir*n thread
>/uhg/ gets slow and comfy as fuck
like pottery
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>>530655048
>It was good until towelheads got basic AA from CIA.
Nah, it was one big fuck up from the start. Reductionism towards "CIA gave Stingers" is just convenient propaganda for both sides: burgers have a reason to pump out their chest, pidors have a convenient excuse.
The reality is that USSR didn't think the war through, didn't prepare for it, didn't take into account the local specifics, didn't figure out logistics, failed to get the local onboard and so on and so forth. It was one giant shit sandwich, a waltz around the brooms.
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>>530655058
I can say a lot of things but who ultimately makes the call is the elites and the elites are child raping billionaires that don't give a rats ass about you or me or any one country as long as they have their fenced of areas and neighborhoods
And they will gladly let these people in (not for the "human rights" that they will be using as a figleaf and justification) because it helps them accrue more power and wealth, even if it poisons the tree upon which they have set their cancerous vines.
It really is that stupid.
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>>530655303
Yes, and for them 10 years is okay, since it's not a Trump issue.
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>>530655255
>in the 90s to what is going on now, just 40 years later
This argument probably works better in US or Western Europe than for me lmao.
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>>530655389
Hey it was as good as any other empire that invaded that shithole.

>>530655483
And when Trump is out US will rekindle alliances that make it strong instead of going full-retard on domestic populism.
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>>530655595
>And when Trump is out US will rekindle alliances that make it strong instead of going full-retard on domestic populism.

Nope. We could forgive America for electing Trump once, but to do it a second time after all the damage he did? Just because "muh trannies, muh gas prices" (which are now skyrocketing thanks to Trump lol).

Sorry but there is no reason why Europe should ever trust America again. Even if they elect a sane president in 2028, who's to say they won't vote in another madman in 2032? Are we just gonna keep playing this game for the rest of time?
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Any of you seen it?
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>>530646617
TZD
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>>530655595
>And when Trump is out US will rekindle alliances that make it strong instead of going full-retard on domestic populism.
a) we'd like to think so, but it's not guaranteed;
b) those alliances don't include chinks, thus chinks will still be doing their own IC crap;

>Hey it was as good as any other empire that invaded that shithole.
Nah, it was waaaaay worse.
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>>530655545
The fundamental political and capital forces are the same
The communists were atrocious but marx was right
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>>530655751
the mobilization schizo theory looks plausible but how will they equip the mobiks? are there still some t34s in storage? enemy at the gates 2 electric boogaloo? i guess we will find out soon enough
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>>530648398
Die you brown nonce
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>>530655819
That's not up to you. Everyone would want US support if not for anything else, for Patriots and gen5 fighters.

>>530655890
Chinks can do whatever they want, they're commies and therefore inefficient and backwards.

>Nah, it was waaaaay worse.
Don't know Chechnya in my experience with vets was way worse. Perhaps because republics were on our side in Afganistan lmao
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>>530655366
Saaar you cannot notice a pattern
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>>530656014
>Chinks can do whatever they want, they're commies and therefore inefficient and backwards.
this, it is hard coded into the system itself
>Chechnya
>Afghanistan
both of them are literally dwarfed by the 3day snmo against Ukraine
pretty fucking grim

>>530656147
he didn't fly so good!
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>>530655958
Bruh, literally all issues in my life, both during USSR and after it was caused by the state and statists. Literally every thing which improved life was done by private business. Simple as.
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>>530655595
>And when Trump is out US will rekindle alliances that make it strong instead of going full-retard on domestic populism.
it doesn't work that way. building alliances and friendships takes long time, destroying it - instant. Why EU and other countries around the world would trust USA when after another 4 years they could elect another turbo retard to fuck them over again? Honestly in my opinion political situation in USA is so fucked up that only reducing presidential power and increasing power of senate and congress could probably fix it.
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>>530656014
>Don't know Chechnya in my experience with vets was way worse.
It's because Chechen events were later and thus were less censored. Yes, that affected even soldiers themselves.
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>>530655969
>how will they equip the mobiks?
Scooters and donkeys
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>>530656147
I only speed on roads when no one can turn left on me. That's my secret of survival.
>summer
>go early morning to dip in the sea
>wonder why traffic jam going back
>biker splattered all over trucker turning left
>blood all over the cabin side
Really humbles you.
>>530656308
Everyone understands it's temporary and everyone wants patriots refills and F-35 license.

>>530656388
Fair enough.
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>>530656446
>Scooters and donkeys
do rusniggers still have those?
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>>530655428
so much word salad so much complaining
did all the men who achieved something do it by complaining or by actions?
I think put on a dress and go work in hurenhaus you talk like a passive-aggressive little bitch
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>>530656526
Lifans are still being assembled from chink kits. if you replace all gaskets and tighten all bolts yourself, it's not even that bad of a machine.
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>>530652029
>You are severely overestimating chink capacity and competence
FTFY

>inb4 linking implessive CCP slopaganda posted by obvious wumaos
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>>530652269
>he would be better off
making moves on siberia and capturing it as long as monke is entangled in Siberia. Iran shows what an useless cunt pozzia is as an "ally". No need to have pidors behind your back ready to back stab as soon as its slightly advantageous for them
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>>530656662
i assume these go the barrier troops and to the rich kids back home in moscow and pidorsburg + donkeys are too pure and innocent for this retarded war
what is left for the poor mobik to ride?
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>>530656662
>>530656886
trick question, he can ride his brothers dick in the trenches
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>>530656886
>rich
I don't know about current prices but it was 1 default cities salary before the war. Very affordable but you had to have a garage to service it.
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>>530657052
Not the locomotives and commieblocks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urvykq43Wd0
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>>530655428
are these oligarchs in the room with us now? Never mind, we traced your position and will gang stalk the shit out of you
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>>530656264
Yeah, and personal liberty is important and includes running your own business
But as surely as "statists" will oppress you when the state is that of an authoritarian regime the billionaire class will follow
The relation between billionaires and the rest of society will be (and increasingly obviously for those with eyes to see) that of the parasitic nobility and the masses while the government takes on the role of little more than a court
Pure "free" enterprise (with the kind of regulations and non-regulations that allow endless capital coagulation and accumulation to billionaires and their companies/stock portfolios) is going to be pretty much okay while there are new sectors that actually need to expand (like after a world war for example) but as soon as things stabilize and no further profit can be scalped off the running of society the more overt and cancerous forms of rent-seeking begin because there is no more real room for growth
The only way to work against this kind of internal contradiction of a system being good for growth but self-starving once maturity is reached (and where-after tumors of a magnitude and viciousness that they have their own circulation start to form) you need a different system and such a system is one that is based on maintaining society and strategical investments along with a focus on covering needs rather than operating everything under an artificial model of scarcity that had already been overcome through previous innovation and productivity increases
Instead this increased innovation and productivity increases is being siphoned off so that like 500 people can have as much wealth and power as literal multiple billions of people with wars, famines, misery and - perhaps something that might make it even into your worldview - migration
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>>530657052
impressive, very nice
these are from earlier today, right?

>>530657061
>rich
i mean rich compared to the poor fuckers who got mobilized, droned in Ukraine then posted to a north korean futanari imageboard in 4k ten seconds after the hit
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>>530656662
>not even that bad of a machine.
non existent quality assurance says otherwise. as everything else where chinks cut corners however they could. as far as that part of the world goes nipp bikes are only ones worth any money

good enough for cumniks though as they wont even get 50 kilometers out of it before they get blown up with it
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As a gay Jewish Russian who had to flee the country due to Putin's rampant antisemitism and bigotry, I would just like to thank /uhg/ for standing up for people like me. I hope that one day my husband and I will be able to visit Moscow and maybe attend a pride parade while we're at it.
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>>530657494
it has licensed Suzuki carburetor and engine. Not much else could go wrong in it provided you tighten the bolts and replace gaskets yourself
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close enough. welcome back baghdad bob
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>>530656615
Well if one is unable to even engage with why this migration is being permitted then one is unable to actually substantively change the fact that it is being permitted.
These "men who achieved something" didn't do so by failing to understand the systems before them that they were trying to inflect.
The one being a "passive aggressive little bitch" is you, thus far I haven't insulted you.
If you don't want to talk about it then just don't reply to me.
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>530657549
the iran thread is the second door to the left, organic USA anon
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Is now a good time to go scoop up an Ukrainian loli.
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>>530657571
licensed == no issues with R&D
licensed != was made good
chinks often fuck up with basic bitch fit and finish, materials and so on
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>>530656662
I always had that at the back of my mind, it's cheaper, it's fun and it's way smaller and also has lower repair and operation costs
But holy shit it's a death trap even at the best of times and I don't want to be crippled by some geriatric fuckwad that wasn't paying attention
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>>530658069
Correct but it's Japanese we are talking about, not Germans. There's not much to be made wrong there to begin with.

All of the issues that I encountered with it was leaky gaskets, shitty carb (which is a $30 replacement, or free if just gaskets) and subpar electronics ($20 replacement)

Now I'm sure RUMOD is not doing any of that, but still. As far as dirtbikes go, Lyfan 250 will get you from point A to point B with minimal garage effort.
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>>530646799
>joined January 2026
>6226 posts
Jesus Christ, that's about 88 posts per day, assuming he created that account right on January 1st.
I mean you really can't rule out that he's a bot, but I wouldn't be surprised when he's just a schizophrenic retard that is extremely obsessed with spending all his free time shilling for shitholes for some reason.
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>>530658332
Yeah you need to basically reassemble it yourself because dudes that assemble parts kids in Russia don't give a fuck.
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>>530658037
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>>530646797
so, this is where they hide the Monke
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>>530658438
they are possibly kids themselves lol
how far down would one have to go?
complete strip down including the engine?
or is it enough to simply tighten the major bolts holding the frame together and things to it?
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>>530658470
>Crying about lolicons on a website founded by them
You must be new here
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>>530657597
so much words so little content
go to politics you will fit right in. go argue about your rot-grün-lila ampel. waste 30 years talking bullshit and never getting anywhere
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>mfw when totally organic 1pbtid usa flags are sliding the thread with loli
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>>530658597
>how far down would one have to go?
At least you'd have to take off carb and re-seal it with silicon sealant and the oil pan of engine.
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>>530658470
Sorry, you'll be the designated pedo for refusing a 40+ y.o. russian roastie
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>>530658860
>you'll be the designated pedo for refusing a 40+ y.o. russian roastie
I went on 2 dates of 33 y/o one when I was 22, it's not worth it.
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>>530658972
I had a good experience with a 30+ y.o. woman.
But that was a unique woman and I was ~15 y.o. at the time kek.
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I'm honestly not sure if this is a joke or not lmao
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Pedophiles, like other ziggers, deserve death
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>>530659103
I don't even remember what I was doing at 15 y/o/ TF2 and Dota2 probably.
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>>530659251
can't be a bigger joke than russia desu
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>>530659251
might not be, people have come to rely tremendously on electronics in order to navigate everywhere.
t. had funsies with a zoomer driver when there was a nationwide blackout 1 year ago
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>>530659363
I remember shit from back when I couldn't even walk lmao. You're drinking too much alcohol my friend.
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>>530659601
Well I jest, I was definetely doing TF2 and Dota2 at 15 7y/o/ My first memory is being strolled across the corner as 4 y/o.
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>>530659593
>t. had funsies with a zoomer driver when there was a nationwide blackout 1 year ago
kek, tell us about it
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so, what is Trump doing?
>Nno thanks, we don't need your cards
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>>530658601
People like you mostly don't live well and don't die well either - as your kind well should.

>>530658641
So more barking it is.
I'm just gonna say "no" desu.

>>530658806
Okay, that's not that catastrophic, I thought you'd have to do a total engine rebuild because even the piston rod ends aren't properly bolted down or sth.

>>530658860
The topic is children aged 13-17
Given that this is your first reaction you probably belong on a list that would forbid you from being in any position of power over minors.
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>>530660067
Moral panic over pedos is just an instrument of shielding real pedos in power, simple as.
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>>530659723
I remember having had a sparkly sapphire glass ball that I saw glint green and purple at around the same age lol
And getting mad at mother once when she wanted to take me to bed but I wanted to stay, ending up with me falling asleep while sitting over my book
Fuck, how are kids that sly, I even remember trying to pretend I wasn't sleeping when she came back some time later though if it was minutes or hours is beyond my recollection
But mostly it's all a haze and nothingness, kind of sad really
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>>530660301
Nope, mostly orthagonal
The former is more a figleaf for surveillance capitalism and the latter is tied in with the former
pidor thiel for example was also an epstein associate
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>>530660348
Self-awareness isn't synonymous to intelligence. Plenty of animals have intelligence without self-awareness.
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What is the dude in that video screaming?
https://files.catbox.moe/mi736y.mp4
Also wtf is even going on there lmao
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>>530660541
I'm just annoyed I remember so little of my early childhood
Going by the photos it must have been a nice time because I smiled a lot more
I got more miserable after turning 10 and of course it wasn't always bad and I had some nice times but it's like a cloud came over me and never left
Perhaps some people are just fated to enjoy life less
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>>530658470
>>530658726
Strange that your thoughts immediately go to that. How do you know I don't just want to adopt an orphan so I can buy her cute clothes and feed her donuts.
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>>530661114
Ah yes, because "cunny" is so non-descript.
We know what you're doing and you know it too.
You belong on a list and should not be left alone with children.
Perhaps even sterilized as is fit for subhuman animals such as you and barred from adopting a child as well.
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Hi vishevatnik bros
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>>530646617
are you guys aware that Trump is negotiating right now Russian oil for Ukrainian land?
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>>530661352
That’s not nice. Some of us just want to take care of cute Ukrainian Lolis and that’s ok.
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>>530661009
looks like aislop
still
>Commander Im surrounded
>I need ammunition
>I wont give up
>Screaming
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>>530661352
You seem upset.
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>>530661652
Alright, thanks.
Thought it was AI at first too, but it looks kinda real and with all the random bullshit the PTSDniks are doing it wouldn't be really surprising if it is real lol.
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>>530661800
sure thing pidor, don't lose your smile

>>530661647
yeah, pedophiles are usually disliked, that has been known to happen
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>totally organic usa flags post nothing but loli
>anons still feed them with attention
could never be me desu
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>>530662410
To be fair, actual government institution functioneers fucking and eating actual children just because prosecuting them is a national security risk it will nothing be done, isn't an excuse to vent your frustrations on fictional loli enthusiasts. Some of us understand the difference between an actual pizza party and a drawn loli oujin, and only one of us are actually in control of world superpower enough to protect themselves from any proseuction. You gotta start to differentiate sin from victimless crime distraction anytime soon.

I lost friends over pizzagate and furniture online deliveries gate.
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>fat faggot Trump actively helping Russia again
>muh trade deals
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>>530662850
>and this is why it is okay for retarded chuggers to spam their fetish on the war thread
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i don't get lolicons. where is the meat! big boobs, nice ass, thicc thights, muscles or belly with some fat that you can use as pillow. im not a dog to like only bones
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>>530663137
On one hand you're right on the other "protect mugh's not the fictuonal kids you have to worry about. it's the real civil opinion leaders getting jailed, exiled and killed.
>>530663302
They're young, getting older destroyed lolicon for me. Now when I open lolicon doujin I think
>damn, I bet I can feed her better than that for a year
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>>530662068
aren't lolis by definition adults?
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>>530663419
>getting older destroyed lolicon for me
No shit, you look at the art and want to hug, protect and other stuff like that. How does a person even get aroused to prepubescent humans?!
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>>530656662
those things are breddy gud. they are basically chink knock-off honda XR150Ls.
considering how badly dirt bikes get thrashed just by using them normally, that it's cheap shit makes it okay. since they are copied 40 year old hondas the parts and support is fucking great.
i'd rather have the honda of course. but if i didn't have the money the lifan would be okay. (i have a very nicely taken care of yamaha xt225 instead)
>>530658332
it's a bike. you spilling it is a "when" not an "if". the build quality doesn't really factor here. so buy less bike and better safety gear. that's motorcycle 101.
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>>530663419
We're not talking (seriously) about jailing people, we're not the police and chuggers are not persecuted. We're talking about not letting degenerate bake our threads and not treating them as organic. Telling people to stop spamming their degenerate fetish is not political oppression
>>530663461
lolis are children. "lolicon" is japanese for "pedophile"
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>>530663137
>chug
Erm, I support Ukraine.
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>>530663774
It's the insecurity. I'm fairly confident I can disappoint an adult woman in bed.
>>530663819
Suzuki 200, but you're right in other regards.
>>530663836
>Telling people to stop spamming their degenerate fetish is not political oppression
Depends if it is state-funded. RU govt hates anime, for example.
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>>530663950
Not all of us are posting from an office with a no Lolis policy. Let us be.

>>530663302
Because they’re cute
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>>530664094
>Depends if it is state-funded.
Are we state-funded, Monte ?
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>>530661495
What's the point of that meme? You can hate the UK and speak English. You can hate China and speak Mandarin or Cantonese. And so on and so forth. I don't speak pedorussian, by the way.
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>>530664094
>I'm fairly confident I can disappoint an adult woman in bed.
Bruh, a woman can be satisfied multiple times, to the point of her losing consciousness, by a single finger. Imagine two of them. Simple as that.
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>>530663774
>get aroused to prepubescent humans
>drawings and kids are the same
Back to Xitter
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>>530663461
No, and these people are well aware
Especially in the context of weaboo "culture"
Back in the 80s the japanese still didn't really discuss openly the amount of damage child sexual abuse and exploitation causes
They would have these "casting magazines" where real children were depicted with some magazines specifically having photos of them naked
This is what "lolicon" refers to - it was always about "pedophile" and the drawn depiction refers to exactly that as well, much as the pedophilics might try to deflect and dissuade with any lore tidbits about that character being >100 years old
From the proportions and secondary sexual characteristics or lack thereof it is clear what this leans on
Not that I care about the drawings, but I do care about the truth and the truth is that this stuff is pedophilic
Doesn't necessarily mean that they are actual clinical pedophiles or at risk of being perpetrators but in general I flatly reject this attempt at normalization these freaks implicitly push with stuff like this
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>>530664170
>Are we state-funded, Monte ?
>>530664321
So I was told, but the spouses of my friends keep being disappointed.
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>>530663836
The fact of the matter is you support Ukraine, a known safe haven for pedos
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>>530663819
>it's a bike. you spilling it is a "when" not an "if". the build quality doesn't really factor here. so buy less bike and better safety gear. that's motorcycle 101.
might as well just use an a*tomobile then or use a bicycle otherwise, I guess it's just not practical enough and I am not thrill-seeking enough while at the same time to afraid of crippling injury instead of death
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>>530646799
Kek
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>>530663302
the appeal is that these people for one reason or another and through one way or another have come to or fundamentally like the pedophilic stimuli depicted
that's it, no more and no less
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>>530664649
>memeflag
Ok pedo
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>>530663419
Maxime Tesak was the best.
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>>530664554
see also:
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>>530664484
>the spouses of my friends keep being disappointed
They have no one to blame but themselves. They stopped being good to their husbands. The husbands stopped viewing them as someone sexy and lovable (and how can you not, when she just bitches and makes your life worse), so the husbands stopped giving a shit and trying.
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>>530664554
>come to uhg
>antagonizes regulars, posts their kiddy porn collection
>pretend to support ukraine while acting retarded
>urr durr you support pedophiles
In Russia possession of child pornography is legal
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>>530664406
You're arguing with your own head, my brown friend. I didn't equalize drawn art with reality.
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>>530663419
>>530664727
I'm partial to BORIS NEMTSOV
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>>530664481
>normalization of pedophilia
We just enjoy cute characters. Your psychoanalysis BS is making a mountain out of a mole hill. If it makes you that upset then you can always go back to plebbit so mods will ban anyone that gives you the ick.
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>>530664931
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>>530664793
Dude, my friend was arrested when he was 17 and spent 10 days in jail without trial.

His crime? Having nudes of his gf on his phone. She was actually 17, a few months older than him actually, but it still counted as cp for him in the eyes of the law.

Now he's on sex offender registry for life and he cannot get a job, and he is known locally as a rapist. That's what these laws do.
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>>530664874
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>>530664749
Too real.
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>>530664793
I mostly just post random threads and occasionally comment in Ukraine threads. I post ONE goddamn cute pro Ukraine loli and you guys FREAK out over it. Don’t be shocked when anons call you out for pearl clutching like this on 4chan of all places, sgt.
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>>530665069
>dude my friend russian got fucked up real good by the system
Is this supposed to make me feel bad or...?
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>>530665220
Russia has no sex-offender registry and age of consent is 16.
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>>530664406
Nobody despises a burning cross, a star of david with two blue strips or a swastika just because of the shapes and colors themselves
But of course everyone knows this and you are just feigning ignorance and retreating into retarded literalism because admitting to what a reasonable observer would assume to be depicted is indefensible

>>530664931
Ah yes, when I want to save nice images of cute characters I like without a sexual connotation I also always make sure to save those referring to them as "cunny" and using up-angle shots with clear relation to the "pls step on me" simp meme >>530658037
everyone here knows what you are doing, no matter how much you try to pretend otherwise
either that or you are unaware what discussion you've attached yourself to here
probably still a pedo subhuman either way, it'd be naive to assume you are arguing in good faith given the observable reality
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>>530664862
Whiter than you, taras
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>>530665166
Hopefully you'll learn from the experience and stop doing that, now
>>530665291
Yeah and that reddit-formated story is real I'm sure
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>>530665291
But nudes of a 17 y.o. gf will still get you in prison. Because of production and distribution.
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>>530665347
Hey if father was really against it, in US dude would be on sex offender registry and in Russia - in jail.
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>>530665166
This is the first post that started this discussion: >>530658037
This is what you attached yourself to ITT to the reasonable understanding of literally everyone talking about this anime pedo shit right now and that is why people disrespect you
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>>530665331
No, you’re missing the point. They can be cute AND attractive BUT they still are NOT kids. I don’t see little kids and think loli. Also, posting MIA to dunk on lolicons.. really now? Are you a woman?
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>>530665220
I'm from USA. Look it up, this sort of situation happens here every day. Russians don't have to worry about this because their laws are designed to target actual pedos instead of innocent people.
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>>530665465
>I'm a totally organic american from ohio oblast
>but rasha number one
>of course child porn is a human right
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>>530665347
You would prefer I go post in chug instead? Why is this general the same grumpy tards from /k/?
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>>530665465
>Russians don't have to worry about this because their laws are designed to target actual pedos instead of innocent people.
Some on now. Have you even looked into Russian orphanages situation? Those laws only exist for promotions of police officers and repressions of familymen.
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>>530665594
yeah, fuck off, they'll love you there
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>>530646799
you know what really drives my hatred and contempt for ziggers?
it's the bullshit and lies.
I would have way more respect for ivans if they would just admit they invaded so they could get more land and oil and gas and bully people they thought were weaker than themselves.
everyone knows that's actually what they're doing and that they're just evil little pieces of shit. But ivans want to try and pretend they aren't.
it's pathetic and disgusting.
almost as bad as the tranny faggot ukies.
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>>530665465
>Russians don't have to worry about this because their laws are designed to target actual pedos instead of innocent people.
Oh yeah?
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>>530665572
What does she got to do with this?
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>>530665761
>posts scammer VTuber that one-upped her unicorn fans while being married
Lost me there.
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>>530665457
I’m not defending his remarks. I’m just defending my posts.
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>>530646924
He's mad. For real. Trump is unhinged.
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>>530665671
But I support Ukraine tho. Idk why you guys want to hate anons on 4chan for liking loli ffs.

>>530665825
Ok but she’s cute and I’m not parasocial
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>>530665929
>I'm a cuck who loves giving attention to taken women!
Okay then.
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>>530665461
>They can be cute AND attractive BUT they still are NOT kids.
I've got an exercise for you:
1)look at this image-------> >>530658037
2)place it on this scale ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanner_scale

3)I would say it's about stage II, perhaps III at most, this would place the character at about 10.5-12 years of age
>inb4 but muh fictional character
Yeah, no child is hurt but the stimuli depicted according to what you and I as a human being know of the maturation process of human beings is clearly a pedophilic one if you admit that the depiction carries sexualization which it does.
There is no arguing with this, it's simply a fact.
You were stupid enough to reflexively attach yourself to this and post the exact same character blithely stating that you're "just posting a cute character, I'm just a retard pls don't bully me for my tacit approval of rage-baiting pedo subhumans"
And if you scrolled past that reply then tough luck, you messed it up and now people are mad at you
Acknowledge it and move on or dig deeper, I don't care and neither do others because they've already made up their minds about the meaning and context of what you posted and now you've been clearly explained it as well
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>>530666006
You gotta be able to distinguish reality from fiction or you're the same as one of them transgenders.
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>>530663137
i love that kind of art ain't a chugger since ziggers suck, but i get that there's threads where it just doesn't belong
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>>530665837
Well you posts are attached to this discussion and invariably that means you draw fire.
You even posted the same character
Holy shit, imagine getting upset for being told you are being a contrarian moron after being a contrarian moron
>>530665594 is a dead giveaway and your own post

Anyone parent that knows the shit you post would tell you to fuck off if the child is anywhere near as well they should.
Your rejection is rightful and your coy attempt at feigning ignorance just deepens the disdain because the only thing worse than a pedo is a dishonest pedo.
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>>530666006
I already said the Ukraine orphan thing he posted is rage bait. You keep pushing for looking at Lolis like people and I’m telling you that I don’t see a loli when I see a kid. Idk how this so hard for you to get. Yes, they share traits, I’m not being purposefully obtuse but they are a far and away abstraction. I don’t see a kid when I look at a loli. And you’re lying if you say you do.
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>>530666126
If you're a polymorphic being can you at least make yourself look nice for me?
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>>530666126
The point isn't whether it's a fictional character or a real photo the point is that it's a depiction of what is clearly a child in a pedophilic context used as a pedophilic stimuli by a pedophile
You're completely missing the point here
I don't actually feel offended about the image itself, what pisses me off is the dishonesty about what the image is.
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>>530666273
don't you talk about pedos the whole EU is runned by them, they allow rapefugees to rape little boys and girls while censoring japanese art. pathethic.
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gonna make a real controversial statement here and say that sexualizing children is wrong.
trying to reframe it as lolicon doesn't change that you are sexualizing them. it's not a "get out of pedo free" card. how fucking hard is it to NOT sexualize children. jesus christ. this shouldn't be a debate.
thank you for your attention to this matter.
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>>530655826
Yes, and it is good.
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>>530666307
Hey man, shit-talking weebs is easier than prosecuting billionaires and politicians that hurt and kill actual children.
>>530666477
>no one is hurt
There is no point except you should be directing your energy elsewhere where actual harm is being done.
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>>530666196
Reasonable take

>>530666273
Bro, I’m not gonna diddle your kid bc I like loli wtf. I’m just trying to get you to understand that we’re not all pedos. There’s really no way to convey my feeling so either you take my word or not. Also I didn’t post the same character but that’s besides the point.
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>>530666196
Honestly I don't even fucking care, it's just fucking obvious that they are doing that to derail and enshittify the thread. They do that regularly, and I wish they would stay in their retarded echo-chamber they insisted on creating.
>>530666501
>The US being litterally ran by the eipstein class
>Shelomov appearing on photos touching little boys
>no you see the actual pedophiles are europeans because of their migration policies
Can't wait for goreleaf to log in and cleanse that shit
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>>530666534
>gonna make a real controversial statement here and say that sexualizing children is wrong.

Exactly! This is why the ukrainian government must be brought to justice. I want to see putin completely clean house in there, every ukrainian MP and minister should get a trial and maybe after that we can talk about ukrainian independence again
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> test
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>>530666534

>FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP
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>>530666571
More often than not these fuckwits support trump as well

>>530666307
Of course these characters are nothing like a kid you see babbling through the aisles at a supermarket because one is fictional and the other is real but you cannot extricate one from the other like you claim
Like words symbols have meaning and you should be able to acknowledge what they represent unless your goals is cacophony
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>>530666477
Look, I’ll give you that he’s a pedo (probably is) but you’re also generalizing by lumping everyone who likes loli as pedo. The distinction is real.

>>530666534
Because they aren’t kids? You already have literally everywhere else you can go if you hate loli that much.
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>>530666705
both EU and USA elites (not the normal people), suck they both deserve to be skinned alive in a public park and have other forms of torture to death from betraying their own blood and allowing or participating in child rape.
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>>530666871
>you’re also generalizing by lumping everyone who likes loli as pedo. The distinction is real.
Nope, being pedophilic and being a pedophile is already a destinction
Pedophiles are pedophiles and often also like "loli" as shown by jeffrey epstein
people who like loli aren't necessarily clinical much less criminal pedos
people who like loli are fundamentally, ontologically pedophilic though, by virtue of the stimuli they enjoy and what it represents
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>>530666850
I don’t disagree with you there. Just saying the hate and pedo accusations over it is ridiculous.
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>>530666850
>acknowledge what they represent
Fiction?

BTW In Russia every orphanage & juvie kid is prostituded to gain $ for handlers. They're also shilled as prosts to foreign pleasure islands, Epstein one had 50%+ RU bodies on it.

Can I get back to jacking off to Bakemonogatari doujins now or you forbid it?
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wow, what a shitty thread
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>>530666871
nigger, this is a WAR THREAD. you can go peddle your degenerate excuses for sexualizing children elsewhere. we ain't buying.
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>>530667052
>>530666871
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>>530666534

Trannies,

If it isnt clear at this point, everyone is sick of ukraine.

Most of all, everyone is sick of ukraine supporters most of all.

All of you have worn out your welcome.
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>>530667196
>sexualizing children elsewhere
May I see children in this picture?
Feels like you can't call out your politicians for eating and fucking real children, so you lash out on weebs.
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>>530667052
By that logic a man attracted to a short woman with a small chest and cute face is pedophilic. You can see why tossing around that word so Willy nilly isn’t good or useful right? I mean you already stated your bias earlier that you just want to ostracize so I’m telling you there’s plenty of places online you can go that already do.

Also, never denied there’s overlap, that’s still a generalization tho. There’s overlap between guys who consume “normal” porn too.
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>>530667196
>Here in America we only defend child rapists! like our president did with Epstein and want to send billions to Israel so they can get more foreskins from babies!
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>>530666501
what a retarded non-sequitur
sleeping will be more productive than talking to a retard like you

>>530667092
you latched yourself into the discussion started by a dude you yourself admitted is "likely" a pedophile only to then turn around and say that it's actually unreasonable to be annoyed and suspicious of these people
anyone that knows the person post such images won't let them near their child and would never trust them with the child alone, that's the sociological litmus test really
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>>530667317
>By that logic a man attracted to a short woman with a small chest and cute face is pedophilic
Itty bitty titty committee are not real adult women, you see.
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>>530667206

You’re gonna sperg out when Newsom gets elected in 2028 and gives eleventy gorillion dollars to Ukraine hahahahaha
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>>530667097
>>530667307
These guys make it so hard to be pro Ukraine. Imagine pearl clutching on 4chan of all places.
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>>530667333

never forget that ukraine supporters tried to blame epstein on Russia.

The trannies really think they're fucking slick.
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>>>530666477
Kekekek
What a way to stir up the hornet's nest with this kind of reply.


>>>530667206
> t. disabled homeless homosexual
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>>530667431
Calm down Vanya you're about to lose your internet privileges.
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>>530667413

>You’re gonna sperg out when Newsom gets elected in 2028

Newsom isn't even liked in commiefornia. His only path to victory is election fraud.

I expect the ukraine supporters will be out in full force stuffing ballot boxes in 2028.
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>>530667371
Yeah, I know people will react that way. I’m not retarded. But I’m saying that thinking IS retarded because most of the pedos diddling kids aren’t posting and watching loli. They’re family, friends, teachers, etc with access to kids and poor impulse control. Making lolicons into a boogeyman is just retarded.
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>>530667307
of course the vampire in monogatari is meant to be rather childish in the narrative, has a childish character and is of a childish appearance
it's fiction so it can also be imaginary, a spectre, 400 years old, a tree god or whatever else but the symbol itself is still that of a child and having that in a sexual light is pedophilic which doesn't necessarily mean the purveyor is a pedophile, it just means they have poor judgement or possibly poor character
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>>530667206
>plebbit spacing
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>>530667505
This is John from Ohio oblast
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>>530667619
Just say you want to thought-police. It'll be easier that way. Many great people share your ideas.
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>>530667609
>I’m not retarded.
Then stop acting like you are
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>>530667795
>just support censorship on 4chan
No I don’t think so
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>>530667866
Think of the advertizers, anon!
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>>530667866
>I know better but will act retarded regardless
Being ironically retarded is still being retarded
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>>530667609
That is fair and loli is no boogeyman to me, I just want the discussion about pedophilic attribute vs actual clinical pedophilia and the fact that they are on a spectrum to be clear.
And yes, you do get guilt by association and no, you don't get to untie yourself from that by this cop-out.
It's fundamentally pedophilic still, even if you compartmentalize it in your conscious thinking.
You're on the spectrum, doesn't mean it's bad or anything but you need to be honest about it.
That's the first thing established with actual pedos as well and we all should be honest with ourselves about what we are or what we are not.
I wouldn't trust you around children but I also don't think you're an actual pedophile for liking loli.
You are on an above average level on this continuum though.
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Afiptski refinery
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>>530667939
As an olive branch, I won’t bake the next thread and will let you have your peaceful war discussion thread. BUT you must admit liking loli doesn’t make one a pedo.
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>>530667994
>no victim
Take it to the German to feel guilt for jaywalking at empty crosroad at 2AM.
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>>530667866
He's not censoring you he's simply calling you out and you don't like it and thus you try to appeal to "free speech", hoping that people are stupid enough to assume it means "pls just let me post without posting back".
Go to some sort of booru with no comments if you want that, contrarian fool.
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>sanctions dont work
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>>530668081
Touching kids makes you a pedo. We're asking you to not enshittify the thread and it shouldn't be a fucking debate
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>Massive Storm Shadow strike at Kremniy-El microelectronics factory in Bryansk
what happened here? does storm shadow have the range to hit bryansk from ukrainian airspace? or did somebody do some SEADing.
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>>530668150
>calling you out
>calling out drawings
Keep up the good fight. I'm sure less kids will get raped, eaten and disposed off in acid after that.
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Afipsky oil refinery in Krasnodar status?
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>>530668176
Ok I’m fine with that. I’ll stop it now
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>>530668086
Jaywalking at 2AM when it's empty is actually also a bad habit and on a continuum to raising the possibility of finding yourself Jaywalking at 2AM when it's """empty""" and paying the price for it.
Human sexuality and preference also just has some degree of malleability and not pushing back against this shit is just wrong because it shifts the overtone window on this subject of not sexualizing children and the unacceptability of that.
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>>530668327
good, let's move on
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>>530668357
Most German thing I have heard in my life.
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>>530648224
>China did well transitioning away from carbonhydrates energy.
Carbohydrates are 80-90% of China energy mix, maybe more because communists always lie
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>>530668247
I would take all of 300ms to start offering words of comfort and support if any one of these ghoulish billionaire subhumans appeared before me and I had an opportunity to proceed.
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>>530649595
more proof that Russians are not human, any human with that injury would not survive.
This Orc is still breathing and moving.
Not natural
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>>530668628
Yeah I'm sure giving shit to loli connoisseurs will give you that opportunity.
>>530668616
Domestic coal is a lot of that they're not even buying Russian one. And they have electric trucks like for construction industry. TRUCKS!
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>>530668450
This is just a fact of behavioral psychology - in reference to your analogy: there's a reason "safety culture" is a thing.
yeah, sure, no harm done right now for this one situation in this specific example.
But you can not view it in isolation because it never is.
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>>530668766
As I have said: keep up the good fight against weeb lolifags and I am sure satanist pedo cannibals will not get away with it because of your efforts.
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>>530656308
>it doesn't work that way. building alliances and friendships takes long time
You are a retard with 0 knowledge, go back to watching cartoons
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>>530668763
>Yeah I'm sure giving shit to loli connoisseurs will give you that opportunity.
So I should not criticize people that sexualize children or tacitly approve of the general sphere where it comes from in a discussion started by a literal pedophile in this very thread because I'm not landing billionaires planes with 100% survivors?
I personally don't find thatt very compelling but I like the aspirational spirit either way, let's agree at that.
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>>530668763
the chinks import 11 million barrels of oil a day. they are the worlds largest importer of petroleum and petroleum products.
they are not the greenie empire they try to present themselves as and they absolutely did not crack the code on electrification of transportation and industry. it's all just propaganda bullshit. they actually run things on diesel and fuel oil just like everywhere else in the world.
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>>530668858
>If you're out not arresting people in the eipstein island you have no right of being annoyed by chuggers from posting cartoon cp on uhg
This was dumb the first time you made that argument
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>>530669068
Sure, after you admit you're a fucking hypocrite that won't seriously go after the people that rape, torture and eat children, because they will actually ruin you. Get the fuck out of my face.
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>>530669052
For energy or plastics? There's a difference.
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Look at this gem I found (From Dzyga's paw website)
>DEATH TO RUSSIA Regards: Stefan
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>>530656662
own a hawk 250 decent bike for the price cheaped out on the tires tho
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>>530668616
It's fucking hydrocarbons
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>>530669118
You know this is absolute bullshit because we would absolutely go after those.
You know we're not FSB right? We're normal people, civilians with normal jobs and normal lives. We're not cops, we're not censors. We see the thread getting enshittified (which is something that chuggers come and *actually* do regularly here) and ask people to stop, especially if that wasn't their intention.
How that makes us hypocrites I have no fucking clue.
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>>530669389
>we would absolutely go after those.
Totally, bro. So are you done squaring up against the closest, harmless available enemy and ready to go fater the real one that harms real human beings?

>you know we're not FSB
What does that mean, retard? DOJ, FBI and CIA all but admitted that going after all of the perpetrators of Mossad honepyot that Epstein island was is "national security matter" and the Jewish lawyers said to you on TV that "if Epestein was revealed to be foreign intelligence asset, we would get him completely off out of 2006 charges".

That the fuck else do you need? US establishment, just like its banks, are "too big to fail" meaning they can rape, torture and eat children and they will never be prosecuted. They can traffick organs and slaves and drugs out of Central and South America and even if revealed, everyone will just shrug their shoulders.

So shut your face up about fictional loli drawingsm, you mouth-breathing mongol. This is not even on the list of your existential problems.

I though so.
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>>530669151
you aren't using 11M bbl/day just to make fucking plastics, monte. the petrochemical industry simply isn't that large. PetroChina has about the same sized petrochemical division (by revenue) as ExxonMobil does.
they use the oil mostly for energy. like everywhere else on the planet.
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>>530669733
>what do you mean, US elites can rape little girls and never be bothered, but people get upsetti if I post child porn on the war thread
>hypocrite much
Yeah you're still not cured of russianism but we'll get there at some point
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>>530669934
>child porn
Where is the child in this picture you delusional faggot? Do you call trannies women too? Get help for your mental illness.
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>>530669919
>they use the oil mostly for energy. like everywhere else on the planet.
Well they must be livid after Iran debacle and Russia is due for some more discounts, which is good.
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>>530667307
>Feels like you can't call out your politicians for eating and fucking real children, so you lash out on weebs.
Some of them are also mindfucked by 30+ roasties
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>>530670101
roasties, trannies and a bunch of normalfags.
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>>530670101
Yeah hags vote for AOC laws a lot. Men combat competition by getting better, women - by eliminating it.
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>>530668086
Shit at night is actually very dangerous. Stats are something like: 5% of traffic, 40% of accidents. Specifically because everyone assumes that there's no one else beside you. People forget that assumptions are the mother of all fuckups.
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>>530668228
More than enough range
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Who bake ?
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>>530670256
And even then, the only one in danger is you making that assumption. Government likes to pretend you're property, but it's not actually a real crime if the only victim is your retarded ass.

It's fucking funny to me that flags from the most muslim rape gangs imported countries, would argue against weeb loli the hardest. Bruh you're importing rapists that have raping your kids in their scripture, not commissioning loli art on danborou.
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>>530670084
yes. china is having a melty rn, but very quietly. the gulf being closed to shipping is a major issue for asia since they were all heavily dependent on oil sea imports from there.
even if russian oil came back onto the market they are still pretty well fucked. they have a lot of cope about their strategic reserves and being "allowed" to still ship through the straits. but reality is showing that they have a major shortfall. like 4-5 million barrel per day shortfall.
they need that shit opened back up and quickly.
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>>530670593
>they were all heavily dependent on oil sea imports from there.
I imagine fertilizers as well.
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>>530670673
yes. oil, gas, and products (like ammonia) are now looking at shortages all across asia. they imported large quantities of all of that shit through the straits of hormuz.
not so much europe and definitely not the americas. we are exporters over here.
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