AaHAHAHAHHAHA, we're fucked.https://www.is.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000011849882.html.
>>530866954Bring back coke whore diplomacy
Didn't some unelected cocaine whore make you join NATO only recently and was memoryholed right after?
>>530866954Embarrassing. I get it that we want the Strait open eventually just like everyone else but can these midwits ever just shut up and wait rather than immediately blurt out whatever they happen to be thinking about.
whoah whoah whoah. hold on. based mommy is a finn and not a russian?!?! am i a faceblind retard, a regular retard or did i cross back into the stain universe?
>>530866954Isn’t Finland a fake country just like those in butt hurt belt?They were created as buffer states between the real powers.
>>530866954wut lil finny gone do?
>>530866954Just propaganda.....truth is than our goverment cannot do anything without changing laws than conscripteds could send fight foreing land......changing laws here takes 1-2 years minimum and even that not guarantee any soldiers going there....might sitting more likely in prison than dying for Israel.
>>530866954Finland literally doesn't have a single ship capable of entering Hormuz in a military capacity. It benefits them to be onboard because it literally costs them nothing. They will never put boots on the ground, they have no navy, and they don't need to do anything. Of course they're onboard. to do what? nothing.
>>530867528Actually we are an old country, hundreds of years ago we had local kings, then swedes invaded and after that a little time under imperial russia
>>530868232Addition....forgive for Valtonen....Blond bimbo is always blond bimbo and that won't ever change....She will suffer enough when others on our cabinet will laughing her idea of this joining to war out.
Oben de strate :--DD
Does Finland even have a single warship? I'll be interested when UK, France, China, Russia or Canada join.
Finns (whitest mongol country) simping for Israelis would be very devastating
>>530866954Do you even have a navy?
>>530866954The world will learn to fear Finland once again
>>530868520Silja line is on the way sir
>>530866954well guess if united states can't keep it open, it's time for THE FINLAND to step in
>>530866954>Let coke whores run the countryWhat could go wrong?
>>530866954This is why i have always been against us joining nato. I knew that instead of being protected from Russia, we would end up joining some retarded US project. I bet these tards don't even understand that opening the strait requires a ground invasion.
bros I hate our globohomo leaders so fucking muchWhat do (((they))) have on Valtonen? Did se eat babies?
>>530868500Just few ships and we need them all hunting submarines and setting sea-mines...I think we least had some old junk which we could send to Hormuz by used as targeting practise for Iranian troops.
>>530866954scandinavia + ballticks are the jamboys of europe
>>530868334based parasite.
>>530868583Hopely full of people from Middle East?
>>530868684they don't have anything on them. this class of woman just wants prestige, they want to go to nyc and get pats on the head from rich jews.
>>530868520like 2 torpedo boats
>>530866954What the fuck?
>>530868772/Thread
>>530868684Finnish right wing politicians DESPISE the fact that they were born in a geopolitically insignificant country. They are desperate to simp for the US and/or EU in order to larp as historical figures, who are relevant on the world scale. This applies to Kokoomus far more than to Persut.
>>530866954Stubb is truly the only friend Donnie has in the whole wide world. Even Rutte is only pretending to like him.
Finland has some mine countermeasures vessels, maybe they intend to use those?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katanp%C3%A4%C3%A4-class_mine_countermeasure_vessel
>>530866954REPORTING FOR DUTY
>>530866954I'd make a guess that participation mostly means sending thoughts and prayers in this case.
HÜ TISTÄ
>>530866954>women
>>530867044>>530867079Most people opposed NATO membership before, but after ukraine public sentiment flipped. Even before that, though, we took part in NATO exercises.
>>530867528You're literally a brit.
>>530866954If you really want the oil you essentially only have to do two things.Stop supporting it, denounce the US and Israeli aggression.That will make Finland the only European country that can get oil or gas shipments from the GCC.Maybe throw in a recognition of Palestine and a reversal on recognizing Israel for good measure.But if they think sending 2 patrol boats will do any difference then they are beyond delusional.
Big if true. Simo Hayha could have defeated Iran all by himself.
>>530866954If only they were neighbours with an oil and gas producer
>>530866954>>530867079>>530867170>>530867528essential in modern politics is to always stay in the news or people will forget about you. It's why there's always arguing and fearmongering and blahblah even when nothing's going on. Pity there's nothing worth reading or writing about happening locally so for politicians to still make it to papers they have to try get involved in international drama that people actually read about.
>>530866954Sweden is going to jump in on this soon too. We even have an expat iranian minister, I think she is the minister of culture for the cuckservative party. Nordics watch a lot of hollywood goyslop and they think the CGI they see in movies like transformers is actual real american military capability. They believe this https://youtu.be/zlL6c528py4?t=180 is real because their minds are not self aware enough to distinguish between fiction and reality. They think there are these huge american command centrals with huge screens and hundreds of people are real. So how can America lose? Piggybacking on America is seen as a free win. The funny thing, this hollywood goyslop has also made americans believe that this is their actual military.The actual state of the american military is disastrous. A common thread in USN incident reports is that the ships involved - all the ships - were operating at a reduced level of function due to degraded or redlined systems because of lack of maintenance. The crews are undertrained and overworked too. Because of recruitment problems, standards are very low. You can become an officer with a double digit IQ. Then these people generate incidents because they are promoted way above their competence level. One ship may have a radar that is only partially working, while another has an IFF radio system that doesnt work and hasnt worked properly for years. Its still sent out on patrol because nothing is gonna happen. Then a real war happens and the first thing the USN has to do is to send all their ships to port for 6 months so they can be fixed up to full readyness. And its not much better in the airforce or the army.
>>530866954Finally, some Yuropoors with a semblance of balls. >>530868232When did you become a nation of faggot cowards? I thought Finns were based. >>530869031How's the 3 day SMO going?
>>530869031They have some common....both are clowns.
>>530869723We handle our own problems...you should do same.
>>530869093>Finland has some mine countermeasures vessels, maybe they intend to use those?Against what?Iran hasn't even mined the straight.They haven't because the straight isn't closed, they just limit who can pass and who can't.Mines don't discriminate, missiles do.And Iran can't control who can pass and who can't if they mine the straight.That is their last resort.The current situation in other words is that they are gatekeeping the Hormuz and only their own ships and Chinese ships are allowed to pass.
>>530866954What can perkeles even do to help open the pool?
>>530869093I would fully support sending our ships to mine the strait.
there would be world peace if every country had finlands system
>>530866954>Goes to the Black Sea insteadclassic ebins
>>530866954This dumb bitch was anti Israel. She should be raped and then killed
>>530867528Don't bully my Mongolian brothers you POS
>>530867044Sanna was based, its only ziggers who seethed about her
LOL...GOOD GOYS...HAHA
>>530868334Give moral support, Trump needs it right now :DDD
>>530867044
wtf, finland?bring back sanna
>>530869510>But if they think sending 2 patrol boats will do any difference then they are beyond delusional.Sweden is going to send some patrol boats if we join in. We already sent some ships to the Red Sea a few years ago to chase somali monkeys with NATO. They called it operation Apelanta or something. Our ships are not meant for combat but to be prestige projects for our military industrial complex. They are not well thought out and will die easily to air attacks because their only air defense system is an air cooled 57 mm gun that can fire about 80 shots before the barrel warps from heat. TThen the gun has to cool down for an hour before you can fire again. The older mk1 model from the early 1970s had water cooling and way longer burst and sustained fire capability, but that was deleted so that the rate of fire could be increased by 10% and make the mount a few hundred kilograms lighter. Some salesman thought it would look better and make for more sales. This castrated good for show only gun system is now sold by BAE as the MK110 and is in use by the US navy, proving that Americas Finest are retarded shitheads, just like our own officer corps.
>>530869827If Hegseth had some balls we'd just sink all Chinese ships going thru to starve both Iran and China and force them to surrender, but sadly while he's got the spirit he's not as bold as he should be.
>>530870459Starving them out would take months as they could bring food in over land, may as well trigger WW3 and nuke both now
>>530866954Et ole vittu tosissasi. Pitäkää ne turpanne kerrankin kiinni.
>>530870202>Sweden is going to send some patrol boats if we join in. We already sent some ships to the Red Sea a few years ago to chase somali monkeys with NATO. They called it operation Apelanta or something. Our ships are not meant for combat but to be prestige projects for our military industrial complex.Nah, the Visby class is decent, but it is a 600 ton corvette.Escorts in the Gulf of Oman will require something much bigger.Again, we could solve it with diplomacy.. which is preferable when we can't fight.>They are not well thought out and will die easily to air attacks because their only air defense system is an air cooled 57 mm gun that can fire about 80 shots before the barrel warps from heat.It's a decent boat.For perspective, it's only 600 tons and much more heavily armed than the nearly 4000 ton LCS ships the US uses.And 80 rounds in quick succession in a 57mm gun is acceptable, in particular when combined with 32 anti air missiles (which they are now equipped with).But we will (hopefully not) see how it plays out in the real world.The Bofors 57mm should be able to handle a little more (it's the same as the LCS carries, only the housing is different).Stealth doesn't really help when you can optically guide the missiles or drones, and Shaheds are FPV controlled nowadays (using iridium network or equivalent).There is a reason why the carriers are doing "lazy eights" 1000km from Iran.
Do skis work on sand? This is important
>>530870983>Do skis work on sand?Maybe? I'd try using Swix KX20 as a base, then use something like Guruwax Extreme 39 on top.Remember your asthma medication and spend at least 20 minutes in the "høydehus" before going. ;^)