How the fuck is the US going to conduct a naval landing on Kharg-Island when the Muhreens would literally have to go through the straight of Hormuz? How are Americans this fucking retarded?
The marines are most likely to secure the US embassy in Iraq, that Shia militias are about to buttfuck vigorously.
>>530943174Maybe renting some floating shitboxes from Egypt or something? Idk.
They'll probably cross by land to an area just across from it then go?
yes and the jewfish controlled media in Hollywood convinced them they could easily kill iran with the countless le super cool USMC slop movies that came out post 9-11 like the hurtlocker and the lone survivor.
>>530943174Trump thinks these are real
>>530943174Were going to send other countries in first to draw fire away from us.
>>530943382>The marines are most likely to secure the US embassy in IraqNot sure how blown up that got, but Iranian allied militia in iraq hit it last night.
>>530943174They're not going to. Trump is fraudulent and an utter failure, he will do literally anything to stave off a poor day at the stock market
>>530943174kharg island is like 15 miles from the shore. iran will obliterate any zogbots with missiles.>u-uh they'll just bomb the missile launchers!!!!they hide them in underground bunkers and wheel them out at their own discretion.
>>530943174What about a catapult?
>>530943174They are taking the coast, the MEU. They will likely take the coast first. The coast has to be sanitized. US forces have been "pounding" the coast, as trump put it, already since the beginning, destroying anti ship missile batteries and what not.Just research it yourself. All the answers about current shaping operations for taking the island/sanitizing sea lanes are available OSINT. Use your brain.
>>530943382Securing the US embassy in iraq is not something that is important with regard to sanitizing the sea lanes, and continuing to prosecute Operation Epic Fury, in general. They are going to do amphibious operations. They will help to sanitize the coast/sea lanes.
Maybe Trump will use this as a test of Iran's capabilities to actual target ships in the strait. He'll say look, our military vessel made it though with most of the crew alive time to start sending through your oil tankers.
They’re not heading to Kharg. The only people saying that are low information, low IQ niggers. There hasn’t been any official word on where the MEU is heading, but presupposing it’s Kharg is just fucking dumb. First, the Strait of Hormuz is closed. Anything trying to pass through would be attacked, which is why the US doesn’t have aircraft carrier groups in the Persian Gulf. If the most powerful naval tool in the US military finds it too dangerous, what chance does a small MEU have?And it’s not just the Strait that’s dangerous. Kharg is ~300 miles beyond that. If the US possessed god-like powers and can just take out all Iranian middle installations along its coast then we would t even be talking about a MEU. An MEU is fairly small, and used for very specific missions. They’re not designed to hold positions for very long, so the idea of “taking” Kharg island is just fucking stupid. This unit can only sustain itself for two weeks (yeah, I know). After that it needs resupplies of food, ammunition, and fuel. There are no supply lines into the Persian Gulf.Their most likely destination is Qeshm, and their mission is probably to die as a way to garner support for a larger attack or something.
>>530943382>They're sending marines and sailors with amphibious landing vessels to protect an embassy in Iraq
>>530943174They played the video game anon. It has to be possible or something.
>>530943174amphibious assault + paratroopersthey can take the island but they can not attact the mainland
>>530944290WHAT FUCKING COAST ARE THEY TAKING YOU STUPID AMERIMONGREL
They're sending the USS Tripoli(amphibious assault ship) USS New Orleans(amphibious transport dock) USS San Diego(amphibious transport dock)You're retarded if you don't think they're preparing to land forces
>>530945312Hope the island is rigged to blow.
>>530945312>they're preparing to land forcesWHERE?WHERE!
>>530943174They can carry an aircraft carrier with 4-6 chinooks
>>530945312Whats to stop the Iranians of flooding the island with drones?
it's not hard to GET there, you could fly all the way from romania if you wanted tothe problem, and the reason why they have not done it yet, is STAYING there.iran could just drone strike the entire thing into dust, the various THAAD interceptors used against ballistic missiles have already been either KOd or exhausted or both, and cheap lawnmower drones can be spammed for a dime a dozen
it will be done the moment nobody thinks it will be donelike everything else trump has done
>>530945506Iran is smarter than that. They’ll blow up anything that looks like it holds water and keep ships away from the island until the troops die of thirst.
>>530943174You know that US has bases in Iraq/Kuwait and that helicopters exist? They don't need any navy to take over the island, they will just lift marines in gulf states and drop them on the island from helis.
we've lost every war in recent history. this one will be no different.a democrat will inherit the war and retreat in a spectacular show of incompetence.
>>530945934So they're deploying two transport docks from the Pacific as seen in pic related >>530945312 because?
>Kharg island is in range of conventional artillery on the mainland protected by mountains.Why take it to just be shelled.
>>530945934>helicopters exist?do you know that MANPADS are basically a standard nowadays?
>>530943174Retard thinks the straight is closed. Kek.
>>530945841Iran seems to have basically no AA capability. No sign they've shot anything down apart from surveillance drones. Although perhaps just manpada would suffice to isolate US Gulf Island forces from resupply if the Iranians can get their ahir together.Strategically the US clearly bitten off way way more than it can chew. Iran just needs to not fall apart politically. If they had a half-day decent government most people didn't hate they could be confident if strategic victory, but they currently seme to be ruled by enoch vegetables so maybe they just fall apart from the inside.
>>530943174Hellpods, man. Hellpods.
>>530943387>Persian Gulf>EgyptBy your map knowledge you could be an admiral of US navy.
>>530944290So the plan is to reaenact the Battle of Gallipoli?
>>530946547This is the basic problem, Americans don't look at maps. Foreign nations exist as abstract concepts. Maps don't matter because we can just bomb from orbit.
>>530943174They're planning a bum rush through Saudi Arabia and across the strait.
>>530947032That would be consistent with the Globemasters I've been seeing going into the northern part.
>>530943174I am willing to send as many waves of zoomers that Bibi wants
>>530943174They can just go in via the Saudi Arabian side
>>530944255kek
>be US marine>get deployed to an island that is 95% filled oil depotsSurely nothing will happen to them.
>>530943174What about "Land , Air , & Sea" do you not understand ? The Marine Corps is really flexible. Its not a huge entity but it can flex..
>>530944290>the coastline
>>530947767Flex into a grave perhaps.
>>530943408>yes and the boomer Pentagon controlled media in Hollywood convinced them >they could easily kill iran with the countless le super cool USMC slop movies that came out post 9-11 like >the hurtlocker and the lone survivor.It's Pentagon propaganda, they don't even hide it.Same as Top Gun: Maverick, had pentagon supervisors.Same as a number of video games. When you throw Pentagon a $1 trillion / year, they don't know where to spend it.
>>530947767Heteroflexible?
>>530943174They destroyed that oil terminal o. thr island so that Iran cannnot export oil. This was GAE's goal there. They are not gonna land there.Kuwait could be their starting point for the landing. But as I said this is not their goal there.
>>530948504They are probably tasked with protecting the THAAD systems that get redeployed from other parts of the world.
>>530944479>sanitizing>sanitizeFuck off kike. You talk like a faggot.
>>530943564t-they aren't ?
>>530943174they arentthe marines are fortifying iraqthen they'll try to retake basrairaq war 3
>>530946146For the bragging rights. They can't back down now, as Trump said they would do it too lol
>>530944479Yes, but from the north west of the gulf
>>530948618I would laugh so hard if they are being deployed to protect Israel from Hezbollah incursions while Israel is going to invade Lebanon.
>>530947778Kek. What a nightmare.
>>530948554>They are probably tasked with protecting the THAAD systemsHow are they supposed to do it?
>>530948448Thank you
>>530948880>How are they supposed to do it?I have no idea. But every other scenario also seems stupid.What are you even going to do with 2500 people other than to protect specific locations?It is nowhere near enough of a force to accomplish any significant operation.
>>530943564we put a plane on your flying ship so you can fly while you fly
>>530944290Lol mutt zogbot retard. A single MEU is going to take the coast and the island? When Iran can still bombard the coastline and the island with drones from further inland? Also a single transport craft taken down = 900 Marines in the water. MEU is relying on WW2 tactics that will get them slaughtered if they try to take the Island. Trump is dumb enough to try but I doubt any Marine General is willing too so there's likely internal pushback from those who know its suicide. Same reason the US Navy is nowhere near the Straight and refusing to escort ships.
>>530948977Every scenario is just as stupid.
A small force of 5000 marines could probably take this area, but holding it long term will be difficult.if the iranians try to move their troops in large numbers in that direction, using trains, highways, etc, they will get vaporized from the air. So iranians will have to move using "eyedrop" tactics, moving in small civilian vehicles, and building up their strength over time, while staying far apart to make airstrikes less useful. this gives the americans some time to build up their defenses.once the iranians have built up their forces the marines will get hit daily with FPV drones, snipers, lone mortar teams using hit and run tactics, etc and they will pull out.
>>530949316You do realize that they will just die in a sea of fire if Iran decides to send drones, right?Whole island is filled oil depots.
>>530949201They're going to Iraq to reinforce infrastructure like the embassy. The refueling planes also need support and a ground presence to keep them safe during operations that needs reinforcement aa well is my best guess. They arent going to Kharg Island.
>>530949383I'm not talking about the island, but a narrow strip of land around the strait. taking the island is pointless and accomplishes nothing. taking the iranian side of the strait, on the other hand, 1) forces the iranians to retreat inland and 2) concentrate their firepower on the marines, which would forcefully open the strait. but like i said in my post the casualties would pile up over time, they would probably lose an entire afganistan worth of casualties in 3 months. its retarded. But at least it would accomplish more than whatever they're doing right now.
>>530949546the strip of land: >>530947778
>>530945486Realistically? Jamming.
>>530949546The drones have a range of 1500 miles.
>>530949316MEUs only work if you control sea and air. Iran’s whole setup is built to stop that. Missiles, drones, mines, coastal batteries. You’re not landing without resistance.This is literally what Gen David Berger’s Force Design 2030 and EABO stuff is about. Old model packs most of the force on a few big amphibs. One good hit and you lose a huge chunk instantly. New idea spreads them out, but then you don’t have the weight or sustainment to take and hold anything.Kharg is right off their coast, fully covered, already dialed in. No surprise.Raids, sure. That’s what these MEUs are good at.Trying to take and hold something inside Iran’s coastal defenses is a completely different problem.Mass up and you get hit hardSpread out and you’re too weak to hold anything.To actually do it you’d have to wipe their whole coastal network first. At that point it’s not a raid anymore.
>>530944290 >>530944479>OSINT>OPINIONATING SEXUAL INDIAN NIGGER TRANNY
>>530949689Shaheds and their other stuff is immune to jamming, if that worked everyone would be dropping their drones like flies358's work off IR and btfo out anything in the sky they find
>>530949689Send in the jam boys.
>>530944479yes but you aren't capable of doing that lmao
>>530943174Naval? They're gonna parachute in
>>530950059great idea!
>>530950059Parachuting in where?You only do airborne drops when you own the air. Iran’s coast is covered in SAMs, radar, and fighters. Slow transports don’t even get close.Even if some make it, you’re dropping light infantry with limited ammo and no armor right next to prepared defenses. You need a drop zone, you need resupply, you need extraction. None of that exists there.Kharg is right off their coast, already zeroed in. Same problem for the mainland.Airborne is for grabbing weak or undefended points, not landing inside a layered air defense network.Best case you get scattered and cut off. More likely the planes never make it in.That’s not a plan, that’s a complete loss.
>>530950203but, but, orange man said iran is already defeated! how come they have sam sites and other defense?!
>>530943174I don't know but I wish they'd hurry up and put boots on the ground, I want to see how many niggers and shitskins the Iranians can kill before Trump is arrested and the US collapses into civil war.
>>530945312Old school CGI, contains things that got cancelled couple decades ago.
>>530945312No one is denying that troops are on their way. It’s confirmed and was a top news story last Friday. The question is where, and OP is right to be skeptical of it being Kharg Island.
>>530945451Uh, no.
>>530943174It won'tTrump is just bluffing again
>>530949383Small price to pay for ensuring Israel is safe
>>530949316>>530949064There is no reason to occupy the island. Nothing is getting pumped out of there anyway. Iran will starve to death. Same thing we did to Cuba and Venezuela.
>>530944290>2500 guys are going to take a 1500+km coastlineFriendly reminder that it takes a boat about 20 hours at top speed to sail from Hormuz to Kharg.
>>530945399>>they're preparing to land forces>WHERE?>WHERE!
>>530943174They can defend themselves in the straight in the short term. The problem is in the long term you have to be prepared constantly and never failed or a bagillion dollars of oil gets sunk.
>>530944479*Operation Epstein Fury
>>530944924>Kharg is ~300 miles beyond that>300Try 550+
>>530945934Marines deploy like that.
>>530949546>they would probably lose an entire afganistan worth of casualties in 3 months.The US Army War College has already done a study and released a white paper on this. It’s actually about two weeks, not three months.https://press.armywarcollege.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3240&context=parameters
>>530949050the little planes get tired, okay?
>>530950888>things that got cancelled couple decades ago.Doesn't that describe most of the Marine Corps' Equipment?
>>530943382they already are, c-ram radar got blown up a few days ago, now they just fly through it blowing up whatever they want lol
>>530948448holy shit that image
>>530952626>*Operation Epstein FuryNice island. Needs some landscaping and a nice Temple of Baal.With so much commercial traffic anyone could come and go (or never leave) and no one would ever know.Karko island looks better for the resort.
>>530953102Looks easy to defend, right?I wonder why Iran has multiple other ports it can divert to (UAE and Kuwait don't).
You realize Marine vehicles are amphibious? They can bypass the Strait by launching from allied Saudi Arabia directly south of the island.
>>530952752Are you really this stupid? That has nothing to do with a raid attack like Kharg would be. This is a major theater engagement and the document describes medical services planning for the entire theater.
>>530944924>their mission is probably to dieImagine joining the US military. Getting send to die for Greater Israel.
>>530943174You ha to invade Iraq first with 1 million he. Afghanistan. And occupy botj
>>530953529many such cases
>>530953166>Looks easy to defend, right?Unsupported from the Mainland? No, deathtrap. No food or water or resupply? I doubt a IRGC ship has docked in the last 15 days. I'm sure we hit the desalination plant during the first raids. Never discount the possibility that the Garrison Commander got a call on his personal cell phone from Hegseth and they have already talked things over. Just looking at the map there is no cover anywhere except the town around the airfield. So you would blow the shit out of anything that moved with Fighters and Helos, grab the high ground via air-mobile assault. Set up the artillery and shell them till they quit.Done and done.
>>530943174>How are Americans this fucking retarded?The Commander in Chief has shit for brains, they just have to nod along with his schemes.
>>530953511Anon, the conversation has shifted. The person I was responding to was talking about a prolonged ground invasion. Try to keep up.
Rolling for dead mutts
>>530953720>I doubt a IRGC ship has docked in the last 15 days.That's strange. 3 oil tankers & 2 ferries docked there just yesterday. I think there's more tankers filling there today.
>>530953194So they're going to carry their assault craft OVERLAND from Jeddah to Bahrain like some fucking viking longboats?
>>530953720Pretty sure he was sarcastic considering the next sentence
>>530943564If you made it nuclear powered tell me why it wouldn't work
>>530944924There are rumors that there's an airborne op planned in Chabahar using the recalled 82nd and 101st. They're going to work with Balochistan separatists to try to create a beach head. Wouldn't be surprised if either the marines are a distraction or if they intend for an amphibious element.
>>530954085how do you cool the nuclear reaction?
>>530954085Square cube law
>>530954133Fuck yes, Trump's very own Bay of Pigs
>>530943174It will be the southwest quadrant where Pakistan allows us passage. The north-west will have to be a coalition of forces after massive bombardment.
There is no realistic plan. The Marines are intended to die. When they die, which anyone could see coming, Trump will use that as a reason for why there has to be a full ground invasion and a draft and any other shit he wants to do to keep from being held accountable, either for this or Epstein or whatever.
>>530954133>They're going to work with Balochistan separatists to try to create a beach head.I think you have that backwards. Any Op that lets the Iranians get their army into play would give them raging hard-ons and dreams of Glory and Death. It would also mean lots of dead Americans. They would make a big show of it as a distraction while we grab Karg and Karko.Karg is a huge economic asset, as opposed to a few miles of mountains and deserts. Haven't seen the overheads of the ship traffic.Is it a reinforcement or a evacuation via the ferry traffic?
>>530954198You have four giant fans right there>>530954217Air resistance would make it float
>>530954198supercritical co2 with air cooled heat exchangers
>>530954085Those fans can't generate enough thrust to keep the niggaton structure in the air. Pretty sure nothing can, on Earth at least.
>>530954248>Fuck yes, Trump's very own Bay of PigsI bet he sees it as Omaha Beach, Persian Edition. I may like the guy (Yes - I have met him) but never-ever underestimate his fucking ego.
>>530943174>landWhy would we need to? Just bombard the island.
>>530954085if you built something light enough and large enough that you can make it hover using those fans then you wont have enough mass to absorb the momentum of landing planes, means you need the fans to be much more powerful than they need to be to give you enough margin to cancel that momentum using pretty advanced avionics.another solution would be to have the flying carrier move at slightly below the landing speed of your aircrafts so you dont have to capture all its momentum, but then you would have to plan a hover route that doesn't have any difficult weather in it.also the carrier would be a very easy target and a very weak one too, since you have to make it light.
>>530955284>Why would we need to?If we get the island we get the off-shore oil and natgas until the end of hostilities. If the Saudis want to do some business with us they can manage the facilities and sell the oil, crediting it to our accounts. What? You thought we were going to pay for all of this?Trump Doctrine. You get to pay for your own liberation.
>>530943564>thinks they arentThis man worked for secret navy programs in 1950 onward.Navy has space ships with nordic aliens as instructors.
>>530954338This is correct.Reminder the Iwo Jima and Okinawa were shelled for weeks from giant ass battleships then took months to capture, and both sustained tens of thousands of casualties. They’re being sent to Qeshm to die.
>>530955671>If we get the island we get the off-shore oil and natgas until the end of hostilitiesNo, you don't?Iran can move their oil to other ports, and keep exporting at around 70% capacity.You really haven't learned anything from history, have you?
>>530956064>You really haven't learned anything from history, have you?Vance said, like a day before they started this shit, that Americans should avoid "overlearning" from the past. He's been curiously silent since.
>>530955460>also the carrier would be a very easy target and a very weak one tooAnd loud as fuck as well. Figure 50,000 tons / 4 rotor assemblies. Rotors might be as big as 12 meters, based on the size of the cockpits of the 'whatevers' it carries as an airgroup.The rotor tips would be moving at Mach 1.7 to lift 50k tons and maneuver it. So many sonic booms, over and over and over.The crew would have to be robots.
Trump already said he wants to send in ships to "open it up"lmaoImagine him sending in a feel, and then those boats come into range of short range missiles, anti ship missiles and artillery all concealedit would be absolute cinema and I don't doubt for a second that Trump wouldn't do it
>>530949064Maybe it's a distraction. Marines take Kharg Island and SOF goes into the mountains to kaboom Iran's nuclear fissile material stockpile, centrifuges, and other irreplaceable equipment.
>>530944255lul
>>530956349>4000 Guys will definitely create enough of a distraction to stop the 300.000+ strong ground forces from killing themWhat did he mean by this?
>>530943564Honestly, if drones can do it and we have nuclear ships, why not?
>>530956064>Iran can move their oil to other portsJesus fucking Christ. No, they can't. The offshore pipelines run to Karg. That's why they built it in the first place.
>>530956476>No, they can'tYes they can, retard. They've done it before.Holy fuck read a history book.>flagWhy did I even bother? You're a retarded subhuman. You don't know anything.
>>530956433It's a distraction from the Epstein files actually
Persia is literally impenetrable unless massive forces are gathered in Iraq to produce an assault.Learn about the Zagros mountains, will you?
>>530956476>>530956559just bomb the other ports.
>>530956783All the ones along the gulf?Sounds like a great plan. Let's kill 5% of the global population. That won't backfire at all.
>>530956349Anon, they can’t get to Kharg Island, as the Strait of Hormuz is too heavily fortified. They can’t hold Kharg Island, as there’s no supply line into the Persian Gulf… because the Strait is too heavily fortified.This entire operation and the biggest part of the war has come down to the global economy and trade partners rethinking their relationship with the United States because the Strait is closed. And it remains closed… because it’s too heavily fortified.The MEU isn’t being sent to Kharg Island. It’s being sent to Qeshm. It will fail, and it will be used solely as an excuse to accelerate.
>>530956320>it would be absolute cinema and I don't doubt for a second that Trump wouldn't do itIt's a done deal. Seriously. For better or worse the Marines are going in. >Fun FactAll 5 Service Branches want a feature in this, the biggest of shows. Navy and Air Force got to show off, Space has been doing its thing the whole time.Marines get Karg and KarkoNo clue what the Army settled for. Maybe they get something Kino at the very end.
>>530944255One does not simply walk into Hormuz.
>>530956559>Yes they can, retard. They've done it before.And where are the controls for the piping manifolds connecting the production fields, my dear and polite friend?
>>530956947>We're going to see zogbots from all branches die for the jew in fpv videosBASEDBRING THEM ON.
>>530956876just the iranian ports and only oil terminals, genius.
>>530957104>And where are the controlson the mainland, retard.You retards really should spend more time learning actual history, and less time in holocaust-class.
>>530944996Just wait until you hear about how the Marines were used in Afghanistan, a landlocked country.
>>530943564Props are too small and it's off balance.
>>530957193And where do you think the Iranian missiles are pointed at?>Hit part of Iranian oil refinery with small bomb>5 hours later a refinery in Fujairah sees a similar sized boomI wonder why they haven't done it yet, genius.
>>530943174Bump
>>530957287>on the mainland, retard.You are so close to getting it.So close.Think it through.
>>530957529>Think it through>Still hasn't learned anything from wars fought decades agoMaybe just kys?
This here is the only territory of Iran that America could possibly take. Everything else is completely off the table. Tehran is off the table. Everything else is. They'll basically be copying Saddam Hussein's attack on Iran
>>530952784They have plenty of equipment, but some things they kinda pinned out their doctrine got cancelled. Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle was in many ways stupid as fuck, but ability land an APC from a ship quite far away from coast was kinda essential. Because without that range, they need to bring ships lot closer to coast. Where those might get shot.>>530952976It is dangerous picture.
>>530957624>Maybe just kys?Nah. I like my job and I'm here on the clock doing my thing.None of you are giving Aid or Comfort to the Enemy, some of you are just retarded. Seriously, think it through and look at the stock market. If you are broke go make some money on Polymarket as a 'Thank you for hanging out' present from me to you.
>>530943174they will ride moosad dolphins
>>530958051>If you are brokeI've already made $65.000 (realized profit) in the past 2 weeks because of the retarded zognald.Don't worry. I'm having fun (unlike the top of the US gov't, who all seem to be aging by decades every night).
>>530957683>This here is the only territory of Iran that America could possibly take.This was being discussed, as well as the other minor islands, as territory that might be 'transferred' to our allies. For the duration of hostilities, of course. This territory would also convey with maritime and resource rights as well.
>>530943174Via Bahrain, Kuwait or Saudi. Look at the map you fucking retard.
>>530958427>in the past 2 weeks because of the retarded zognald.Then you should say "Thank You, Donald" instead of being a prick. (Laughing)You are no better than any of us. Complain like a bitch then check your account balance.
>>530958842>You are no better than any of us. Complain like a bitch then check your account balance.The only thing I'm complaining about is the lack of fpv videos of zogbots getting blown up.Where's the boots on the ground, nigger? Are you scared to do anything because you STILL have no air supremacy?
>>530958709So the USS Tripoli (pic), the USS New Orleans, and the USS San Diego are just going to be shopped across a desert?
>>530958427>"Are American prisoners of war in Iran safe?">"Unless America and Israel attack our prisons, they are safe"This guy is the bant king
>>530959071>Where's the boots on the ground, nigger?Why bother? Eliminate the civil administration with airstrikes then let the Persians figure it out. I did some quick math. It looks like your portfolio went up by 74 U.S. cents per confirmed death in Iran at this time. If you are ok with that where does all this anger come from? Hope the blood on your bank statement doesn't stain your hands.
>>530959522>why bother sending in troops?It doesn’t matter how you feel about it. It’s happening.
>>530959522>Eliminate the civil administration with airstrikesYou seem to be completely failing at this.
>>530959640>It’s happening.I know. Karg Island for sure.>>530959674>You seem to be completely failing at this.Not really. Targeting has shifted to local police commanders and IRGC junior officers. They only ones getting a pass are in major urban areas, out in the sticks they are getting whacked as fast as they can be geo-located.The Saudis are paying for the Avgas and bombs, so it's a scramble for our guys to get their kills before the hunting licenses are revoked.
>>530943174Here>>530944290The coast and island will likely be liberated/sanitized, concurrently, actually, obviously. I had not fully woken up when this declaration was posted.
>>530960218>Targeting has shifted to local police commanders>commandersYou mean cops. The brothers, fathers & uncles of the locals. Because that's who you've been bombing. I'm sure they love you right now.>out in the sticks they are getting whacked as fast as they can be geo-located.Yet somehow they keep being able to film and upload videos of themselves launching missiles at kikes?>We kill them within 4 minutes>Also they're still alive and able to upload video 30 minutes laterImagine being this brainwashed.
>>530943564https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_CL-1201If only
>>530960457>You mean cops.Yep. The guys who have killed 55,000 - give or take - civilians over the last two months. Not a lot of love lost between the MVV and the civies. The locals don't seem to mind so much. >Yet somehow they keep being able to film and upload videos of themselves launching missiles at kikes?Sure. It's a big country and some of the roughest terrain on planet earth. Not going to ever kill them all, but we can attrit them down to a manageable size for the civilians to deal with.
>>530945486they dont have enough drones to defend everything
>>530943174Naval landing can be done in waves.
>>530960457>and upload videos of themselves launching missiles at kikes?Like I care about our "Greatest Ally". I hope the Hajjies kill them all before they go down themselves.Personally, I hope they gas the kikes with what is left of their chemical stockpiles. Still haven't found it - they guard THAT more carefully than their nuke program. Make of that what you will.
>>530960872>Muh 6 gorillionSure jan.>The locals don't seem to mind so much.>we can attrit them down to a manageable size for the civilians to deal with.The civilians are out in the street calling for your death. By the millions.
>>530943174epic d-day invasion roblox but with drones instead of machine gun fire and no navy to support them
>>530961227>The civilians are out in the street calling for your death. By the millions.Kek.Yeah, no. Iranian state media is about as trustworthy as US media. If you are telling me any of it is real I kind of feel sorry for you.
>>530954198With air and water. It's not that complicated. The US has had nuclear jet engines for decades but nobody wants to deal with them crashing or being shot down. There's versions that were designed with hardly any radiation proofing so rather than spewing out normal fuel exhausts it just constantly polluted the atmosphere with radioactive isotopes.
>>530961593>I'm still falling for retarded kike propagandaOk josé. Have fun dying for zog. Bye now, retard.
Marines attack at night.
>>530943174Iran is dead gypsy, the US will take anything we want.
>>530946421I have to ask, what is an enoch vegetable, or what were you intending to input
>>530961987>Iran is dead gypsy, the US will take anything we want.And we picked up Cuba and ended Birthright Citizenship on the side while everyone was screaming about live jews and dead muslims.It's been a good day.
>>530944924I'd say high IQ, but it's extremely basic and everyone else is just oblivious. It is absolutely going to either be Qeshm (just look at a map) or Qeshm will be a distraction for a Shahid Rajaee landing and seizure. Either way the straits of Hormuz will likely be the primary target if Tehran isn't just decapitated immediately. I cannot imagine getting the territories at the end of Gulf, and not having a way to allow the Gulf oil kingdoms to transport the oil out. Often military strategy is saying one thing, and doing another; deception. But Hormuz and Tehran are the two biggest priorities, afterwards the third priority is Kharg. If we take over Kharg we get the oil but that's just one more oil bank that cannot be transported, if we get Hormuz we allow transport for like a dozen other oil banks.
>>530957316The Marines were airlifted in during the invasion of Afghanistan.Which begs the question, if they're being used to take Kharg, they'd be using the ships, which as this thread has made it obvious, is near suicide running along the coast, let alone the strait.82nd would be better suited to take Kharg in that regard, they're airlift capable and landing on hostile ground is basically their habitat.And if they're being used to secure embassies, why not just airlift them in C-130s instead of taking weeks to get there by sea?
>>530962083>what is an enoch vegetableYou are talking to an Indian immigrant who lives in Alberta.Credit where credit is due, that is some deep Canadian lore.
>>530962509Don't worry, they're just gonna run in a zigzag to fool the enemy.
>>530950203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS3ttogME4Ivid related kind of makes that point. Landing at Kharg first with elite units to kill all combatants quietly, then secure airfields to deliver missiles for strategic strikes, etc. would work, but holding the island long-term is very difficult because of >ballistic missiles>drones
>>530957683>They'll basically be copying Saddam Hussein's attack on Iranohhhhhhhh that makes sense, so Saddam was just trying to expand Iraq's territory, up to the mountain ranges in the east, not conquer Iran. Taking advantage, of course, of Iran's disfigured military leadership just after the Revolution. Still a fucking stupid move, but a lot less stupid than I thought when I first learned about it.
You fucking imbeciles, he's saying he's gonna attack Kharg Island to distract from the real operation of sucking 6 million israeli dicksLeave the real war planning to the pros, kiddos
>>530943174hint: we aren't going to invade anything with 5k marinesthat island in the strait itself is larger than some Japanese islands that took tens of thousands of soldiers to claim and Iran could easily lob drones and missiles with impunity at them
>>530963789>up to the mountain ranges in the eastHappens to be where most of Iran's onshore oil is. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
Even if the MEU takes Qeshm Island, how does that secure the strait of Hormuz? The entire strait is within range of Iran's drones/ballistic missiles, how many oil tankers need to get sunk before the strait is impassible? It's going to be fucking chaos. And even if it's relatively peaceful, how peaceful does it have to be before insurance on tankers is reinstated?
>>530964045>Happens to be where most of Iran's onshore oil is.didn't know that, thanks for the info. Even if Saddam btfo'd Iran and took the field, did he expect they'd just let him run those oilfields with impunity? No matter what way I look at it, I can't see it as anything except strategically retarded.
>>530964173>And even if it's relatively peaceful, how peaceful does it have to be before insurance on tankers is reinstated?30 days without a confirmed attack.The US may have to underwrite the tankers like they did in 84-88. Doesn't really matter to us, the rest of the industrial world may be in trouble - but aside from price-gouging we have more than enough in the US and Canada.
>>530943174Geography is not our strong suite.
>>530943174Did you know that there are Airborne Marines?They could just fly in along with Delta Force.Just because they are called "Marines" doesnt mean they need to do a Beach Landing like D-Day you retarded mongoloid.
>>530964312>did he expect they'd just let him run those oilfields with impunity?Yeah. He was a fucking idiot. When that didn't work he made the same play with Kuwait to even worse results. Got to keep in mind this is all against the backdrop of the Sunni-Shia civil war that has been going on for 1400 years. Saddam was a unbelievable fool, but there were religious reasons behind what he did.
>>530954085Because then you'd have a giant nuclear bomb flying over your troops.
>>530964649>Geography is not our strong suite.
>>530954085"With nooks you can go anywhere you want," Anonymous said to himself out loud.
>>530949383If Iran blows up the Island, they permanently destroy their own economy and the Regime effectively ends. Iran wouldn't be a nation anymore. If the Island is in the hands of the US, it at least works as leverage for the US, which can be used to negotiate a deal which might alone give some people in the regime a chance to stay relevant.Also remember that because of Mosaic defense, their commanders aren't working in unity. It's now effectively a bunch of regional warlords with their own military companies and funds. So a coordinated attack from the IRGC is no longer a threat.
>>530965280>their commanders aren't working in unity.And some of them may have already cut deals with us and are waiting for their rides to Switzerland. After one day of attacks on Karg not much is happening there. The Marines may just fly in and start looking for a place to set up the PX.
>>530956064>Iran can move their oil to other ports, and keep exporting at around 70% capacity.No they cannot.
>>530964453>The US may have to underwrite the tankers like they did in 84-88.what a fucking shitshow. Fuck this war and fuck this jew-fellating Commander in ChiefAmerica started this war by killing a 150 schoolgirls, endearing itself to the Iranian people, martyring its Shiite pope and ensuring any surviving Iranian leadership passionately hates America. Russia and China are probably feeding Iran intelligence on US targets the way America does Ukraine in their war vs Russia, thanks to drones and ballistic missiles the US can't airdrop into a major city and use that as a staging area for a ground invasion, so it's either go amphibious assault from Bander Abbas or through Herat in the northeast from the Afghanistan border, assuming the Taliban just......allow us to spend months assembling the infantry, armor, supplies, and artillery/armored cavalry for a ground invasion. Or go full chaos mode and use nuclear weapons to force surrender which would make Israel, and no one else, happy. what a stupid, colossally retarded thing to do.
>>530965491Yep.The Regime as we know it is effectively done, though it's possible it'll exist on paper. Take Khrag Island, and now the IRGC no longer gets their paycheck and very quickly you'll see mosaic defense fall to pieces.Not to mention their missile and drone launches are at less than 10% capabilities, and bombing it risks destroying it.It's the most obvious strategic point to take, so obvious, the US made it clear to Iran they intend to take it when they attacked the air defense to pressure them.
>>530966001You're such a brainwashed propaganda child.Quiet down, the adults are talking.
>>530966132This nigger is going to die for Israel soon and he's coping by reddit spacing here lmao
>>530943174>How are Americans this fucking retarded?Shut the fuck up, I already bought beer and empanadas to see mutts running from drones, don't spoil the fun.Go Trump!
>>530943174The Wright brothers invented the first airplane in America in 1903. Our military now uses these "winged air vehicles" to move to locations by soaring through the skies.
>>530943174Trump said the Straight is open.He doesn't have any American ships in it, but it's open.
>>530947778Looks like Mars. Are we sure its about oil and not some money laundering scheme through Nasa and it's lack of new terrain for public scamming?
>>530956009unfortunately, Trump is having the same problem getting help from the nordic aliens as he is with NATO.
>>530966559>Are we sure its about oilThe US doesn't do wars for oil, never has. Only wars for mohel.
>>530943174Operation Epic Fail
>>530966503> USA mutters still use last century's aeroplanes
>>530943174Its gonna be funny as fuck to see you being confused when we pull it off flawlessly.
>>530967086yeah because it's going so well now.
>>530956349That's fucking dumb. Distractions only work if the enemy actually moves their equipment to respond, and do you genuinely think that Iran will start sending security forces for their entrenched underground assets to the frontlines? Do you think Iran is hosting the eye of fucking Sauron and we need to ride up to the black gate so that a midget in some aviators and a shemagh can toss the ring of plutonium into their reactor?
>>530945486Not only that, that Island is within the range of Artillery Fire
>>530957377Prop size is less important than rotational speed.The limiting factor is ultimate tip speed.Bigger the blade, faster the edge is spinning, more stresses. You can only go so big with modern materials.Solution is to just add more of them.This is why the big fpv drones have 8 rotors.As for balance, thats just a control problem.Asymmetric weight distribution just means some rotors have to work harder than others
>>530959076You know we can easily just do helicopter insertion right?You know the strait isnt actually closed right?You know we can sail our destroyers in there whenever the fuck we want right?You know all Iran has left are shitty truck-launched shaheds right?You know we have CIWS systems that are ideal for shooting these sort of slow-moving projectiles right?You know these things because youre not an uninformed moron spouting ignorant opinions, right?Right?!?
>>530966132>and very quickly you'll see mosaic defense fall to pieces.This, for sure. Every commander of the 31 districts gets a personal call from Hegseth and he offers them a deal.The new American Way of war. >>530966001>martyring its Shiite pope and ensuring any surviving Iranian leadership passionately hates America.Your hate only matters if you are alive.
>>530967744>Right?!?
>>530959674We ran out of leaders to kill.Mostaba hasn't even been seen since the war started and is probably already dead.We just killed the defacto head of the government yesterday who was part of like the 4th tier below the ayatola. We are literally bombing random IRGC commanders at this point.Iran has no government in practice.This is actually making the peace process harder because we aren't even sure who we should be negotiating with at this point.Our current strategy seems to be to continue the airstrikes until the drone launches stop.
>>530943174The Gay of Hormuz would never cause this much trouble. That’s all I’m sayin
>>530966835Yeah pretty much everything in use now was meant for the Fulda Gap
>>530943382That's already gone.
>>530968039>Our current strategy seems to be to continue the airstrikes until the drone launches stop.Valid strat. If they are still launching then they are still willing to fight. The ones who have ceased hostilities are good with the idea of a dictated peace.
>>530968065>The Gay of Hormuz would never cause this much trouble.Kek.Just bend over, Hormy - Daddy is coming and shipping the oil, whether you like it or not.
>>530943174no marines just moab
>>530966238you're such a brainwashed propaganda child.Quiet down, the adults are talking, go back to hentai fapping and lusting over JKs, mongoloid english teacher
>>530943695It seems those countries are in active rebellion
>>530964173take Qeshm, Seabees set up airfields, marines start doing drops on the Iranian southern coasts, drone swarms, DDGs can refuel and refit relatively safely, etc
>>530954198air.
>>530969307isn't the range of Iran's drones hundreds of miles?
>>530943174the USA wants the strait closed while it negotiates with the Chinese. No one suffers more then China right now. Either china defends the current establishment or it finds itself labelled an enemy via the ME,EU and NA. China and USA settle the military commotion to get insurance rates back down. France appears as quasi replacement circa Suez Canal for future management. What you are witnessing is the 3 largest arms dealers in the world showcasing their products before they have a meeting
>>530969102kek, there is an active warfront with Russia, if you knew anything about power the USA and EU certainly arent going to showcase it but portray discontent to weaken the enemy. Putin is no fool either
>>530954085How are they supposed to dump their poop ?
>>530944924The only other possibility i could see is a landing somewhere in Baluchestan and then a gradual push to the West until they reach the strait that's the safest strategy probably but it would also take longer so depends on how long the oil prices can remain high until irreversible damage.
>>530943695You gonna send in the Mongolian Horse Navy?
>>530973516China is still getting their a-rab oil
>>530947767They can take the island there's just little point when it's so tiny and near to the coast so many stationed there are getting their asses set ablaze
>>530944924They are heading to Cuba. You read it here first. Biggest plot twist of the century.
>>530967744>>530968039The only thing they can do is just say you're a redditor and they're right because of their "feelings".
>>530943174air drop them retard
>1pbtidOP is chinese.
>>530962277>ended Birthright CitizenshipSource? I want to believe bro
>>530975065Sorta, insurance rates are still insane and if we take kharg it eliminates any leverage Iran has to entice chinese involvement.Most of china's ME oil comes from SA though, and we have made it clear we have no intention to fuck with that.We aren't trying to destroy china, just squeeze them a little to assert our dominance.This is to get them to back down off the aggressive bullshit they have been pulling the last few years, like floating fucking spycraft directly over our territory in plain sight like we wouldnt do anything about it.
>>530943174Even if they can get there, how do they expect to take it with 2500 men? It's an island roughly the size of Iwo Jima, and that took 60,000 men to take. Iran has been getting ready for this for decades. They are sure to have a massive tunnel network on the island, and we have no idea how many men they have there, it could be anywhere from a few companies to a division. Even if it is only a few companies, the island is in howitzer range of the Iranian coast, and Iran definitely has the capacity to bring in reinforcements via speedboat while the US couldn't even resupply the marines, much less reinforce them with anything aside from maybe paratroopers or frogmen.>>530962509Maybe the airspace is even less secure than we thought, and they don't think they can just fly C-130s into Iraq.
>>530952494>Nothing is getting pumped out of there anyway.Yes it is, as of yesterday it is still completely operational. Trump destroyed the military airport and landing strip. He didn't touch the oil facilities, as has been US policy throughout this war. Only Israel and Iran have bombed refineries: not the US (yet).
>>530956349SOF would need 12hrs to get into the complexThey need protection, that's what the MEU will do.
>>530943174Swim from kuwait
>>530943564It wouldn't work like that, but a nuclear powered hybrid lift design could get pretty massive and could work as an airborne aircraft carrier. I think it'd be better to use hooks underneath to catch the fighters than to try and land on the thing.>>530954217Not the problem, in fact in some ways the square cube law works in favor of it.>>530954661A hybrid lift design could work, it wouldn't look anything like the pic, but you could get an airborne aircraft carrier like that.
>>530954085The rotors would need to spin so fast, they would kill your ears or make you go insane.
>>530953950>Werner Herzog intensifies
>>530943174the strait is closed to shipping only as companies are scared of losing ships and cargo the US navy would probably want to lose ships because then they can give the MIC contracts for rebuilding them Orwell actually wrote about this in 1984
>>530978623The US is already building ships at maximum capacity, which isn't that high, like 1.1 a year or something. Losing ships means officers losing their jobs and not being able to go work for the MIC afterwards because they reputation is destroyed, and they don't want that.
>>530957059kek
>>530978880It's incredibly fucking hard to do lose a modern warship though outside of direct sabotage. The Cole and Stark both returned to service after their attacks.
