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Why dont Europeans get off their asses and help even when its in their own best interest?
Spiteful to their own demise?
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Help with what?
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>>531101097
we should find out who destroyed nord stream and punish them.. after that we should start buying gas from russia again.
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>>531101097
>in their own best interest?
giving in to Trump is not in anybody's self interest. do not negotiate with terrorists, you just invite more aggression
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>>531101097
We're not dying for Israel, that's the burgers' calling.
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>>531101097

No matter who wins, Yuropoors lose
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>>531101097
Help a country that is not an ally (economic war against us for a year, bombing of our infrastructures with Nord Stream 2, claiming our territories with Greenland, and so on...) help them with an invasion and with war crimes committed day 1?

Fuck no, fuck you, retarded cunt.
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>>531101097
So we should start bombing USA and Israel?
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>>531101097
This does not affect me
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>>531101929
youre not winning (any more goys for your gay ass Israeli war offensive), and we´re not losing anything atm. simple as that
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Last time Europeans help they got a bunch of ugly Muslims as refugee.
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>>531101097
we used to have a pipeline that covered all our gas needs but then the US blew it up and they blamed Russia/Ukraine for it. Now Trump's friends want to buy the pipeline and blackmail Europe.
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>>531101097
What the fuck can Europeans even do here? Move their ships into the Strait and be sitting ducks for drone attacks?
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>>531101097
Agreed. Europe should start bombing Israel.
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Help with what?
People were negotiating to let non-american/israeli ships through and slowly making progress. Israel and/or US (can't trust a single word coming out of trump's mouth) responded by blowing up their gas refinery.
The only thing that can be done is wait for mutts to leave and then move in to watch for false flags, because spiteful mutts don't want a solution that doesn't involve them.
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Trump on behalf of Israel started this war. There is no reason to get involved even for gas prices
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>>531101097
Help how? You ever stop to think? Spending millions on every escort mission won't make gas much cheaper. Insurances still won't cover tankers, shipping companies will still not deem it worth the risk. US has not consulted any allied power on its war aims, they have no fucking clue what they're doing there and what the goal of the operation is. Allied navies are completely dwarfed by the US. If Americans can't handlen a single tiny strait by themselves, what hope do the allies have?
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>>531101097
True Europe should start helping iran
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>>531102271
Unironically
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>>531101097
You break it, you buy it fucknuts or does that only count when someone else does it?
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>>531101097
>>531102261
We could remove sanctions on
Russia to get their resources but the butthurt belt and the retards in charge of the EU don't want to
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>>531102271
No, muslims are still an enemy. Just let jews and muzrats kill each other, the world will only be better for it.
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>>531102271
No thanks.
Muslims exist for the purpose of proving that there is no intrinsic value to a human life.
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>>531101929
WTF you are right! I will now fight and die for Israel
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>>531101728
CIA
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>>531101728
We need to wait until putin dies with that. He really wants to restore greater russia.
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>>531101929
We can't lose, we already lost in 1945. Current events are just a chain of events in a Talmudic blood ritual
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>>531101097
4bangers dont need that much
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>>531101097
I also agree that they should help Iran finish this conflict fastet
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>>531101097
Because the part of the strait that is deep enough for bigger ships is tiny and no one wants to face the political fallout of running their Navy through a killbox lined with hundreds of silkworms? Let the US deal with the retarded mess that it hoisted on the world.
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>>531101097
I think we just start buying oil and gas from russia again. Not joining some holy jewish war
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>>531101097
why would European attack the US. Do you seriously think Europeans would attack the US cause the US closed the strait?
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>>531102024
Pretty conventional how all those things happened within the past 6 years.
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>>531101965
Israel, if you had any balls, which no one in Europe does except the refugee terrorist muzzies that are allowed to enter.
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>>531101097
Considering how we reacted to Russia's invasion of Ukraine we should be sanctioning the aggressors for the attack on Iran as well but those countries' status as our supposed allies makes things a bit complicated
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america and israel need to fix the illegal war they started, no one else. and they need pay reparations to anyone they've hurt in the process.
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>>531101728
Nice try vlad but WE have always bought natural gas from norway, not russia, besides only 5% of energy usages comes from gas so I dunno wtf u are talking about. You should know this since you are a "finn"
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>>531101097
gas was fine until Shitrael nuked it yesterday
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>>531101097
Trump started this problem, he can also fix it with his big beautiful army. For me gas went up by 4 cents
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>>531101097
Help with what? Serve the clown a Polonium laced hamburger?
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>>531101097
Let me know when we're glassing the entire middle east.
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>>531102588
Couldn't give less shit about that
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Not dying for Israel, sorry. Have fun.
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>>531102464
>there is no intrinsic value to a human life.
Jew mindset
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>>531102865
Sounds like cope. You used to buy dirt-cheap pipe gas from Russia for like 95% of your gas needs for decades. Then you chimped out and have been buying LNG since 2022 at 2.5 times the 2022 price from Norway and the US.
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>>531101097
Europe doesn't want to get dragged into a pointless war in the Middle East, to escalate things or to make it last longer. If Trump wasn't a drooling retard he'd realize that nobody in the entire world wants this war, stop escalating things and actually look for a way to stop the war.
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>>531103304
Bibi, the real president of the United States, wanted it.
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>>531101097
I genuinely believe that all the online articles mentioning most eurocuck nations sent 80 - 90% of their military crap to ukranny are real now, since no way eu shabbos goyim would let israel be bombed otherwise
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>>531101097
Our first and foremost interest is not to get our people killed fighting for the attacking side in a needless war. That is our best interest.
Secondly, what the fuck are we even getting into? Your president said their military was 100% destroyed, you miggers posted graphs of missiles fired by iran and yesterday the blew up production in quatar and saudi arabia. You are not being honest neither to yourselves or to the rest of the world.
And even then I really do not see any way where the US reaches it's goals. Killing their leaders does nothing and targeting their infrastructure gets yours blown up in return. Tell me, specifically what can our few frigates do, that yours can't do?
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>Trump be like
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>>531101929
>start trading in Yuan
>Nobody wants to deal with American oil
>Dollar collapses,China wins
Also the war is over and Trump won didn't you hear?
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>>531101097
Wait. So, not only does the US cause all this trouble on behalf of Israel, but we ALSO have to clean it up for them?
Fuck off
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>>531103341
or would they?
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>>531101097
>help Israel raise their gas prices even more
Why?
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>>531101097
Not my problem. In fact, I am pro violence, I look forward to seeing mass casualties on both sides.

Mass genocide of mutts, muzzies and kikes is something I'd pay good money to see
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>>531101728
It was Israel.
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>>531101097
What’s this?
The Peace President can’t enlist his vassals to (((make peace)))?
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>>531101728
Joint us-uk operation.
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>>531101097
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I think Europe should form a coalition threaten to attack Israel and actually destroy them if they do not stop disrupting our economy. This will free America too from the evil ones too.
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>>531102271
This
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>>531103304
Israel wants this war, wants war in Lebanon, wants war in Turkey, want war with Egypt, wants war with syria.
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>>531101728
>find out who
>biden literally said nordstream would blow up and that they "have ways to do it"
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>>531101929
sorry, I'm not dying for Israel and Epstein's pedophile friends
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>>531104084
Yes the eu knows what needs to be done. Israel should be sanctioned by the eu.
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>>531104084
It was Europeans who placed Israel in this situation
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>>531104179
Imagine how based this would be. That's why it's not going to happen.
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>>531101173
Help with their Temu delivery. They order something, it isn't arriving without doing something to alleviate the delivery problem. Are they going to just sit there hoping that Temu prize arrives anyway or will they finally realise it isn't without taking action?
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>>531101097
Most of, at least the nordic countries, the energy comes from non-fossil fuel sources. Same with gas.
I think the fact that parts of Europe has become less and less dependent on oil and gas outside of vehicles angers the MAGA.
>>531103341
>since no way eu shabbos goyim would let israel be bombed otherwise
Remember WW2?
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>>531101097
We should do a deal with Russia. Expel all US military bases from Europe in return for cheap oil and gas.
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>>531104126
TRULY A MYSTERY WHO DID IT FELLOW EURORETARDS
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>>531102786
We know how this ends. Those mussies will no doubt start terrorist attacks or kikes do the false flags and then Europe like the cucked group they are al together say it is time for action. Of course if mussies were intelligent they would see the scenario and not want that or they might want it anyway or the kikes want that. Europe isn't that far from the ME, it essentially is joined via Turkey etc.
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>>531101097
>Why dont Europeans get off their asses and help even when its in their own best interest?
i agree europeans should get off their asses and help Iran defeat jewmerica.
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>>531101728
Qe should cut ties with the Judeo US government and ally with China and Russia.
The Americans have flooded Europe with poison via their EU puppets.
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>>531104212
>OY VEY LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO
>*bombs another school bus*
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>>531101097
The destruction of Israel and the US is in my best interests now
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>>531104681
based polish poster
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>>531104212
Then I guess Europeans should remove Israel from this situation
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>yurocucks continuing to seethe about fuel
I bet you idiots regret giving up your colonies. Shouldn’t have done that. Gas is still less than a penny for me lmao
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>>531101097
they should destroy the root of the problem and nuke Israel
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>>531101097
>why aren't europeans helping the people actively destroying their culture and now their energy infrastructure and economy
yeah quite the conundrum isn't it
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>>531101097
Average people don't think a lot ahead. A car is optional to us, so many don't care. Without realizing that gas powers a lot more than just cars.
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Long term, to reward Donald Trump for his fuckery, will just encourage him to do it again. Short term pain to make that sure that fucker never does it again. Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and absorb the loss.
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>>531102407
Fuck that, we should remove sanctions on iran
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Europe getting involved would not bring any faster solution to the situation.
Europe not getting involved will lead to a shorter conflict.
Without their support, USA will realize they have to end this as soon as possible, even if it means accepting some level of defeat
Europe involved would invigorate to go for more victory than defeat, leading to a longer conflict with Europe being the biggest loser.
Also, it's best to not get more countries involved. Otherwise we might as well name this WWIII already.
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>>531101097
Short term pain for long term gain.
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>>531104830
It's not as much of an issue for me as for others. I don't have a car and 2% of our energy production consists of fossil fuel.
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>>531101097
Indeed. EU should help Iran defeat the zog state of America.
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>>531103304
Israel and Iran cannot coexist at this point, there is basically a zero percent chance of them making peace until one is completely destroyed, it can't be stopped. And trump can't abandon israel, so there's no choice but to fight Iran.
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>>531105871
this. But its more like there is zero chance Iran can co-exist in a world with nuclear weapons. They'll send the world to hell eventually no matter what
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>>531102261
The idea was to kill a lot of europeans in this war, that's the goal of the operation, oy vey.
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>>531101728
It hardly got any media coverage so it's not surprising you don't know, but we do know who it was: it was a group of holhols. The Germans located one in Poland (Volodymyr Zhuravlov). They issued an arrest warrant for him but the Polish hate Germany and Russia so they ignored the warrant and arranged for a car with diplomatic plates to take him to Ukraine instead. Another was caught in Italy (Serhiy Kuznetsov) and his lawyers were holding up the extradition, but a few months back they lost the appeal so that should be happening soon.

Fern did an interesting video about the events and investigation if you want to know more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHsONupIdlo
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>>531101097
>Why dont Europeans get off their asses and help even when its in their own best interest?
USA is still technically our ally so we can't help.
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>>531101097
>Insult allies
>act surprised when they refuse to help you
Too much Jew dick in your throat, Sunjay?
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>>531102183

No they're not. Dipshit. The oil fields go Acck.

The coalition of the unwilling are simply unwilling. All they do is make up bullshit. It blames everybody including their own citizens but provides otherwise a parody for the worst people you want as aby leadership. When it gets tough the tough get going. No why help please it's your fault.

It is their war. Iran doesn't provide them with an exception or a distinction. Their own people business trade and services are under attack and their own citizens are faster in unrest. All they can do is act unwilling and Globally and to the Gulf as well.

What are they needed to do. It cannot guarantee they can do it without taking Flak. The risk vector and duration isn't determined because it's still diminishing and evolving. So they blame somebody else for it. Flying their planes in causes problems where are they based and the AA and radar syncing. Shipping. Again in the cross fire and sorties it needs to be certain on any targeting while providing recon and whatever.

In any case? Those vectors are speculation. Because they could according to Europe inflame it. Europe reads the risk algorithms and projections based on fallacy. It causes emotions instead of logic
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>their own best interests
Anon, they literally destroyed their energy infrastructure years ago to spite Trump.
They literally keep putting women that want to be raped and killed by 60IQ Africans in positions of power
They literally get beheaded on the streets while screaming that at least they are not racist
They will turn violent and start fucking shit up because the government doesn't ban Uber/puts more taxes on taxi drivers but they will do a peaceful protest against muslims raping their daughters
Euros are suicidal.
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>>531101728
Unironically this is the solution.
Cut ties with Israel and america. Agree to a military buffer zone with Russia and continue trading with both them and the middle eastern states.
At this point our alliance is creating more enemies than solving problems.
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>>531107211
Kill yourself bot.
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>>531101097
Third world countries are fucked. Already India, Pakistan, Thailand, Vietnam, Bangladesh are facing huge gas shortages. Soon it will be electricity black outs and famine as they can't grow food without fertilizer. Looks like massive depopulation in the third world countries is about to happen. Europe is also going to suffer a lot but since Europe isn't retarded third worlders, they'll make it but third world countries are absolutely fucked. We may be seeing total chaos soon! Mass rioting, and a full collapse of society!
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>>531103155

Danes wouldnt lift a finger to save their own mother. Total faggots.
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>>531107528
kraut you are the destroyer of Europe, the moment you and russia align, the world sufferes. The USA will glass you and allow Russia to operate before there is ever a Russo-German alliance. Best bet is challenging Macro, who arrives in Iran 3/28. And when Macron shows his dick, this entire board will see theyve been had about a broken alliance.
France, UK, USA will all be in the strait end of the month. The only three nations that matter with maritime issues
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>>531107528

You won't be trading with anybody. What can you offer to them? Rules? You mean buy. No you don't. You mean make up bullshit on why they should buy your shit. Then you steal it and you sanction when they don't adopt your nonsense. Ironically you do not protect your rules either. You hang your own citizens out to dry. And shout fuck you at everything and everybody. You expect America to provide your security. It simply meant embargoing them when it's somebody you disliked. Worst is the idiocy running your shops. We will climate change if we immigrate. To achieve net zero means peak population we can tax even more and implement the dystopia. It needs to make certain they didn't say anything you couldn't thrown in jail.

The reason you're unwilling is a hissy fit at America releasing sanctions you imposed. And cutting you out of other bargains. More is much dumber acting. Pretending to disagree. Not like any of you agree on it anyway. Except your pathetic blame.
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>>531106013
sand nigger end of times and kike end of times, are complete fabrications to justify fucking insurance rates at ports, grifting and justifying moral turpitude. Not a single leader at the top believes in any Abrahamic messiah, as clear as day that both sides can invoke their messiahs with just a war, that neither will do.

Whats really going on:
USA & China are negititionig trade in Paris. It is very likely france is ok with USA shutting down the strait during negotiations
Russia, China, USA, basically an arms sale demonstration right now.
Chinese have been so thoroughly embarassed i never want to hear a word from you niggers a war with China will happen in under 50 years.
There is literally no challenger to the USA
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>>531105288
You bite pillows not bullets homo
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>>531107562

No comment on the debate. No brains to logically dismiss it with another argument. Instead blames it. You're a stereotype and a meme of everything wrong with Europe. You're a retard. A lunatic. Unwilling. Look. No logic.
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>>531101097
>Why dont Europeans get off their asses and help even when its in their own best interest?
Because Europe is being thrown under the bus by their ruling class.
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>>531107406
This is the american brain on chud propaganda. You're living in a dream of jewish fabrication my spicy friend

>>531107934
>The USA will glass you and allow Russia to operate before there is ever a Russo-German alliance
Oh, so you realize Uncle Sam has been destroying the world by continuously sabotaging any semblance of pan-European alliance in the last 150 years, just to dominate the market and sell poison to the rest of the world while stripping it naked of resources and flooding it with jewish schemes and degeneracy?
Glad we at least see things from the same side.
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>>531104481
they will annex you
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>>531106330
>fern
this on top of the other 3d documentary channels like veo and the explorist feels sussy
Maybe they were all set up by a private company, who may in the future use it to control the narrative? Though of courde they'll aim to keep most of their videos faithful to the sources they present, so they are mostly fine.
I trust Lemmino a lot more
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>>531108448
EU benefits from USA reshaping Chinese trade just as much as everyone else. No one mentions that the entire world, including eastern blocs are aligned against China export economy. Either the chinks start buying or shutting down ports for their oil is the new normal. Europeans cant comprehend that there is consequences to not sueing for peace with Russia (not saying they should) but enriching the middle east and a port that has been central to mankind for 4000 years, stabilization of the region youd think be primarily goal. Which leads us to believe, NATO is portraying discontent, simply because they want it closed as well.
The other read is Israel just failed to goad a ground invasion and will feel the effects moment this is resolved. If you follow USA verbiage, we have already laid the groundwork to blame Israel
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>>531106330
This is just sand in the eyes of the public. The operation wouldn't have gone ahead without German approval.
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>>531101728
.t hivan
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>>531108508
you can say whatever you want nigger, history says stopping the germans and russians, keeps france, uk and germany from killing millions. Atlanticism rules, we do not give a shit about your interpretation of our method of stability. But yes, we will literally kill millions of germans and russians if you those two ever tried to align
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>>531101832
>Attacking shitskin Muslims is TERRORISM
Holy fuck is every European flag here just a shit skin posting from Europe?
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>>531101984
Is that image from your fap folder?
Kek what a fag
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>>531108648
>hat there is consequences to not sueing for peace with Russia
I mean Project 2025 and Pete Hegseth said that they were supposed to rearm to confront Russia while the US institutes Monroe Doctrine 2.0 and pivots to Asia.
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>>531108728
This is what they teach you nigger cattle in those FPS arenas you call schools. Jesus Christ. You are far beyond any chance of redemption and salvation. You simply need to go, for the good of the whole world. There is no point in arguing with you barely human golems. Hitler should have won. But of course you golems had to stop him for your jewish masters, and to prevent a greater power than you from stealing your place and dominating the market
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>>531101097
Because, like >>531105471 says, America's mindset and approach to this conundrum is not going to result in a solution.We need to wait for America to come to terms that to resolve it by force, they'll need to occupy the coast of Iran. This will be unacceptable to the US.
Thus, Trump will switch to backpedalling and approach non-force solutions, at which point it will be useful for europe to join the effort.
Iran claims it will not stop but I'm sure an agreement could be made. Perhaps compensation, perhaps restraints on america or israel could be made in some way.
>>531105288
good point.
then again trump isn't one to learn lessons. He'd soon forget, especially if israel goads him again
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>>531109168
hitler was a double agent funded by the BiS to precisely screw the treaty of Versailles and fully capture german wealth. But you arent ready for that conversation. The only loser in European history thats a tragedy was Napoleon.

>>531108955
rearming is precisely how you sue for peace with the russians
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>>531101097
Kek that’s ok, the wind and solar will save them! They don’t need dirty LNG.
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>>531109189
They could simply depopulate the coasts with chemicals
Im sure our understanding of chemistry has come far enough in the last 50 years to right the wrong of agent orange
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>Mission creep, blowback, refugee crisis.
We will see higher energy prices no matter the ending, wether we help out or not.
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>>531108508
I've been researching this subject since 2012, pastabro.
Back then even European leaders claimed that multiculturalism was a failed experiment that would lead to violence and demographic replacement. And they still went with it.
And no, it's not jewish propaganda, I have no fucking idea how you come to that conclusion when you people are suffering from it. You also have clear evidence, for example Trump declaring that Germany destroying their nuclear plants would eliminate their self reliance on energy and German officials laughing to his face.
And just last week, German officials declared that getting rid of nuclear was a mistake but that they won't build nuclear facilities anyways. That isn't incompetence but the targetted destruction of Europe.
What can Europe do without America? Seriously. What innovations have come out from Europe in the past decade? In the tech sector, Europe's entire business model is to fine American companies. What about war? You could say that they make great weapons, ok cool, they are only used so the State has monopoly of force upon their populace to enact more draconian measures that cripple native Europeans. What about culture? Europe is relegated to an open air museum where anything of value is reminiscing of the past, while your own media tries its best to imply that there's no such thing native European history and constantly changing your own history to appease to the invaders.
At this point, the only things that matter about Europe is its culinary history and tourism. And when I went to Europe, ten years ago, I was already seeing muslims everywhere, I can't imagine how depressing it would be today.

You could say that I'm hypocritical because I come from Mexico, a country that is ruled by literal crime lords, where most of the population is low IQ, with low impulse control and zero sense of community and camaderie.
Well no shit Sherlock, I don't want the free world to be the same.
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>>531109693
mission creep is good, war is how you shape the world to your benefit
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>>531107528
>Agree to a military buffer zone with Russia
If I know anything about Russia, it’s that they keep their word and abide by agreements.
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>>531109693
>refugee crisis.
your fault for letting them in
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>>531109189

There's no occupying the coast until there's better opening.

In the model of unconditional surrender, it was based on bombardment.

To open the lane requires the coast. No debate.

The conundrum is the risk vectors of the conflict, crossfire, and the duration the lane is closed. It isn't without certain opportunity either. Europe that narrative was?

Trump is correct to some extents on needed because in the crossfire presents problems, fanning it, or mistakes, syncing, blue on blue, and even losses, but at the same time platforms to any base, why they're useless, a lot of it, nuances, as well as the obvious, sailing ships through the sailent presents opportunity of counter measures. They create a diversion. Risk is not something many are prepared for. Once aligned is faster entrenched into what could be considered quagmire.

That's better than you'll get. Otherwise there's no logic to it. Duty or bullshit. Isn't bullshit.
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>>531109733
>Back then even European leaders claimed that multiculturalism was a failed experiment that would lead to violence and demographic replacement. And they still went with it.
I remember Merkel went to meet with Obongo in Washington. When she came back, it was like she was lobotomized on the multicultural bandwagon. It literally happened overnight.
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>>531109630
kek, how are all of you unaware of whats going on. The USA doesnt need this strait. The single biggest loser in this entire conflict, is CHINA. Why on earth would be occupy when we can sell LNG and stall the chinese?
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>>531101173
Changing the sheets. Trump really shit the bed.
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>>531101097
we will rather freeze to death than help orange man fight war we didn't started.
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>>531101097
Fix your own shit!
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New excuse just dropped - "Iran has weaponized energy for years".
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>>531108728
satanic piece of shit
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>>531101728
finnish post best post
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>>531101097
Yeah IDK maybe don't insult your allies 24/7 and threaten them with annexation until weeks before you'd like them to lend a hand in your illegal war of aggression you didn't even consult them on in advance.
>Spiteful to their own demise?
Rather, mad at the world's gorilla because he caused economic problems for everyone for no reason yet again. Why keep working with someone whose retarded rogue decision just cost you a ton of money?
Europe is lowkey telling them they're on their own from now on, as everyone is busy to finally end this joke of a vassalage that is the US hegemony.
We're witnessing the final death throws of a once mighty empire. It won't be pretty for everyone involved, but the world will be a better place in the long run.
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>>531101728
Most Europeans actually think like you, don't fall for the completely fabricated Matrix that says otherwise. America is utterly scared of this opinion becoming the open majority on the continent, backed by politicians in power (like AfD). Everything around the topic of our relationship with the US and their sabotage operations here is heavily propagandized and distorted because it poses a threat to them bigger than Iran.
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>>531101097
What, you figured this out only now?
We've been carving away at our own face for years to spite Russia too.
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>>531102024
you deserve it, though
that's what you get for being an Amerimutt cocksucker since 1945
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>>531101097
Murrica is so powerful it doesn't need help. What these people want is accomplices in their crimes. So that afterwards they can say: see you all wanted it too!
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>>531112551
What for though?
There's no greater power to charge them with any crime.
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>>531106330
Ahh, so THAT'S how they're hiding the fact that the Americans destroyed the pipeline out of sheer spite and hatred.
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>>531101097
Because the fastest way to get the gas and oil flowing again is literally to sit back, do nothing, and wait for the US to finish its temper tantrum and go home for a nap. Any support given to the US now will only PROLONG the war, because there is no way to end it quickly other than for the US to give up.

Also, Trump has made it clear in all of his deals that he will demand everything from you and give back nothing in return. Maybe if he wanted Europe's help in the new war in the middle east he shouldn't have spent to much time shit talking about how we never needed their help and they didn't do anything in the last war in the middle east. Maybe, just maybe, insulting other countries for sending troops to die in a war started by a terrorist attack on America that didn't affect them was the wrong call.
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>>531103289
Wrong you orbanite chimpanzee. Finnish never adopted natural gas. We used turf, geothermal, bioenergy to heat up apartments and we use electricity to cook. Gas has really never been a thing here, hence 95% of energy is everything but natural gas.

Only thing we exported from russia was oil and gasoline but even then we kept their share low knowing that we can and should not ever rely on rusniggers. Why you trying to educate me about my own country with facts you pulled up from your ass u slavic negro?
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>>531112846
No, you're just retarded.
And also the pipeline was offline for quite a while anyways. Russia kept dragging their feet with new requests even though the US bent over backwards in getting the repairs in the turbines they requested done by waiving sanctions because Russians are subhumans and can't build turbines for their own shit.
Less than five drunk slavs on a sailboat blew it up. Deal with it.
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>>531112721
It's just a diplomatic move. That can be used for blackmail and pressuring others in the future when convenient.
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>>531101097
>in their best interest
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>>531101097
helping iran would mean a start of ww3
it is not worth it
yet
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>>531113756
oh wait you meant helping judeo-mutt hegemony?
lmao
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>>531101097
Because they know Iran is likely to survive it and come out as the controller of the strait.
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>>531101097
>prison wardens best friend sets fire to his prison of nations
>demands the prisoners help him fix it and control his friend
why do that when these states can position themselves to cannibalize a weak and frail imperial system?
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>>531101097
Greenland. A fair number of people her consider NATO dead.
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>>531101097
Yes, we should bomb Israel to the ground, that way we can have as much oil and gas that we want for the foreseeable future.
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>>531113082
Good post.

Also, maybe coordinate with your allies before starting yet another war that will cause huge economic disturbances instead of blindsiding them and forcing everyone to scramble to mitigate the fallout.
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>>531113254
Chimping out won't change the fact that you used to import almost all of your natural gas from Russia, and now you do the same, but at a much higher cost because you decided to act retarded.
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I just hate Europeans and enjoy it when they suffer, hopefully things get pretty terrible over there.
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>>531106330
How the fuck do hohols bomb a pipeline under the sea when they have NO navy? It was the Americans which is just a way of saying Jews.
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>>531101728
it was ukrainian spec ops with US intel and air support
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>>531102786
How about you start bombing Israel then, oh, that's right you're controlled by the kikes, you are a raped kike slave American.
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Mutts are just jealous that we Europeans are whiter, have free healthcare and education, get 2 months paid vacation a year, 1 year paid maternity leave per child and 2 months paid paternity leave per child and we don’t have to die for Israel
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>>531101173
Bombing Israel and sinking carriers
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>>531112550
It is almost as if we fought a war to the bitter end that decimated Europe's population, power and economy to prevent becoming a Jew/soviet/Amerimutt cocksucker but to no avail.
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>>531114635
Yep. the USA under Trump is a bad friend and ally, we have done nothing but piss on everyone else at every opportunity, from nonsensical trade war bullshit to tearing up international deals to threatening to leave NATO and the list goes on and on.
Even before the war with Iran shit, it would have taken us a decade or more to MAYBE rebuilding the relationship between the US and its allies if we got sane and apologetic leadership after this. Now, I really can't see a future where the free world decides that they are better off without the USA. They might still trade with us, but they won't rely on us and they will build a version of the global economy where we don't have anywhere near as much leverage and power as we once did because we have proven that we let that go to our heads and can't be trusted with it anyone.

Maybe the Euro will become the global reserve currency. I don't know. But the days of it being the dollar are coming to a close.
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>>531103304
>nobody in the entire world wants this war
Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?
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>>531101728
spbp
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>>531114799
It was a covert operation, they rented a civilian boat and took their own scuba gear and explosives. I did post a video link which explained everything, so you don't have to make guesses.
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At this point its irrelevant if the war is over tomorrow or in a year or 10.

The damage has already been caused. It take many years to fix the oil and gas infrastructure in the middle east and unless someone has a magic wand, high prices will last for many years.
The best thing that can be done at this point is just to stay out of it and focus on what goes on within our own countries and cooperation with our closest real allies.

The problem is regardless that leadership in The US is unhinged and will end up stuck in this war (they will for a very long time)

And here in Europe, "leaders" are way to liberal to make any choices that will benifit people. Today in the news, Europe are pushing renewable energy as the solution (again). They think that nothing here will run on oil and gas and that fairies and dreams will make the solution for all of this.
So regardless people are all alone here and must focus on themselves. Governments are deadbeat shits and they will just make things worse.
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>>531101097
>Why dont Europeans get off their asses and help

Huge internal Islamic populations.
They vote and blow shit up.
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>>531112550
I hate the euros too but glass houses, mate. While the major parties do love to suck the cock of Chinese investors they've also been constantly asking the USA to fuck us harder up until this month.
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>>531109928
>crossfire
That was a fucking good game anon.
Thank you for reminding that and making my day you blessed sonofabitch.
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>>531101728
I know you're russian but you're correct this time. Americans are not our allies.
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>>531109928
>duration the lane is closed
Driver : parallel lanes

>Risk is not something many are prepared for
Risk! Holy shit I forgot that game exists

>Duty or bullshit.
Call of Duty time.

>sailing ships through the sailent presents opportunity of counter measures

COUNTER STRIKE. JUST STOP IT YOU MOTHERFUCKER
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>>531101728
This. Every other solution is retarded.
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>>531108751
Poor golem, your masters tricks aren't working anymore?
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>>531102594
Why are you a nazi?
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>>531101929
The only people Europeans fight in wars are each other. They are basically Hatfields and McCoys at the nation state level. Other than that they just enslave random brownoid countries. Trump is retarded for thinking they will do anything other than bitch, moan, cry, and seethe in committes that never achive anything.
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>>531103624
Basically this?

Why should third parties help cleanup a mess that they didn’t create?
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>>531101173
>>531101467
>>531101173
Nordcuck are traitors to whites.

Norway literally directs jihadis against the rest of the West at the behest of China so they can have 100% EV chinkbombs on their streets in the cold where lithium batteries barely work. I'm supposed to care about them when they're mask off taking the side of the jihadis publicly now.
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>>531122425
>Why should third parties help cleanup a mess that they didn’t create?
Or rather add to the mess created by Israel and the USA. I doubt other countries are confident of the USA's abilities at this point, which is logical. The USA is running out of munitions, interceptors, etc. And the USA has not secured the strait on their own.
I'm not sure what other nations could really do to help that situation.
By staying out of the conflict, they strengthen their ability to negotiate with Iran. Otherwise Iran won't even talk to them.
And again, I don't think other nations are confident in the USA's capabilities. Better to not help the USA and be able to negotiate with Iran.
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>>531103624
>>531122425
>Tell me, specifically what can our few frigates do
they can keep you occupied for the six weeks it takes to get organized and sail there, just in time for the [color TBD] revolution to end and fool your citizens that you were there too when we liberated the persians
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Nigger worship is the official religion of America. Niggers are America's gods. Americans fear niggers like a mortal would fear God. They're not allowed to curse or speak ill of niggers, like how you mustn't blaspheme God or take his name in vain. They devote entire institutions in academia and media to remind themselves of their sins against niggers, and beg for mercy, like you'd beg God for forgiveness for your sins. The only landmarks and monuments they're allowed to revere are parks, schools, and statues dedicated to famous niggers, immortalized in marble, like gods.
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>>531125473
They have holidays for niggers. They killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free niggers. They listen to nigger music. They elected a nigger president. They dress and act like niggers. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from niggers. They post sassy gifs about niggers. They watch sportsball in worship of niggers. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of niggers playing sports. They use nigger slang like "bruh" and "thot". When you say Martin Luther, they're not thinking of the father of protestantism. They're thinking of the nigger. Their cities are completely overrun with niggers. They worship their ZOGbot police force disproportionately filled with niggers and their global police force filled with niggers. Their men sit around watching niggerball while their women sit around watching nigger talk shows. They worship niggers like Mike Tyson, Michael Jordan, Muhammad Ali, Michael Jackson, while ignoring the whites who actually built their country before niggers took over. Their movies are filled with niggers and and their music charts are filled with niggers. They send niggers to the Olympics and celebrate when the niggers win because those are true red blooded American niggers. They watch nigger porn to the point where "BBC" does not make them think of an international media company but about nigger penises instead. America has been and will always be a nation of nigger-loving niggers.
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>>531101097
>Commuting allowance €0,21/km
Because the state pays for my petrol.
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I know that the homosexual jew OP know this, but in Europe led by jews (Macron, Starmer, bulbhead germoney one and their pederast govs + the jewEU crop of jewish bureaucrats and their tools) is more beneficial to judeo-bolshevism painted as a progressive diverse, equal just society to just not participate (impact would be minimal apart nuclear) and keep muzzie retards quiet than otherwise. In the meantime they milk any WHITE people on their last money buying imaginary jewUS mil gear deliverable 2035, and expensive jewUS LNG farts. Not a single fucking green faggot see taking gas on diesel run ships by the thousands from across the ocean, wrong.
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>>531101097
It's not in our interest to spend money on a probably-illegal war against Iran, or risk the lives of those who serve in our militaries

It is however in our interest to tell the United States of Paedophiles to fuck off
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>>531101097
europe has blue screened.
leadership has crashed.
they MUST do what jews say. but they MUST not do what Trump says. but the jews are telling trump what to do. they are so confused so they just fell back on what they know- do nothing helpful to anyone and watch american tv until someone "in charge" tells them how to run their nations into the ground some more.
you guys know you are getting conscripted too though right? like 100% they will gather anyone white with a dick, regardless of age, and ship them off to die, specifically just to die.
you will line up, get exploded all together so they can save bombs- then say it was iran (it was jews) that killed everybody.

I'll wave at you when we are together.
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>>531101097
>help us create more unrest and chaos in the Middle East
>help us create more displaced people that their brother Muslim countries won’t shelter.
>its for your own interest.
Retard or kike.
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>>531120859
Because be was right.
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>>531101097
Iran? More like I ran haha.
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>>531101097
Destroying America and israel would be in our best interest since they started this. And the "refugee crisis"
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>>531130146
you ran into your rabbi dick as usual, Lisbon embassy.



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