Do they kill sick dying people that not have more than a month or two to live at hospice? With for example injection too much morphine or fent. Im pretty sure they do
I mean you're not coming out of hospice once you go in. They do dope you the fuck out, but mostly you start refusing water as you start to die and the dehydration is kind of what kills you.
>>531140834Most likely. I had a guy basically tell me he had his nurse neighbor do it to his ailing wife who was dying at home.
>>531140834Let's not talk about that.Here are some kittens.
>>531143084thats what im asking do they really do this?
>>531140834>too much morphine No such thing.
>>531143907yeah that's kind of the point
>>531140834My mom was shot up with morphine a lot during her last 24 hours. They injected her every time she sat up in a panic and begged for air. It calmed her down. It was the worst day of my life and I can’t imagine how much worse it would have been without morphine.
>>531143084yeah i also think that happens but that doest prove they do it. it might be just false accusations
>>531140834My grandmother passed a couple days ago and I found out that they hadn’t given her water for days before hand, they just gave her drugs and moistened air. Terrible places.
>>531144385im not saying drugs are bad, they are good.I want to know do they really make their patients pass away faster?
Yes. My father in law who had leukemia recently passed because in the hospital they did virtually nothing. They didnt take him to the bathroom so he didnt eat and then didnt want to eat and they didnt change his sheets or help him with physical therapy. They also didnt give him his medicine because they were 'afraid of threatening behavior'because he didnt get enough oxygen in his blood and would argue about whether they were going to do anything. He was 85 pounds. The nurse was a male. They felt threatened. They literally did nothing. They just waited for him to die and in doing so murdered him. And i have heard similar stories from many people. They are murderers. I had to literally stop my brother in law from burning the hospital down. Theres more this is just simplified. We are talking to lawyers with the same stories.
there's cheap places that disintegrate them with experimental beam weapons
>>531144626I don’t think it’s protocol to do so, but I’m sure there are people who find ways to accelerate death for the dying. Every time my mom got injected they recorded the dose, so I doubt they were doing death by OD. I almost wish they did though
>>531143907In my experience they don't try to kill you until you run out of money or you cost more than the next animated corpse that wants your bed to keep alive.
>>531144966>>531144626Btw was in a hospice, not hospital
>>531144485a lot of these places that are simply just providing assistance and no actual medical care tend to be staffed entirely by fat black women, a lot of which actually come from africa or jamaica or something. I used to work with some of them. a lot of them are neglectful and often aggressive. I worked overnight at one of these place and one of the ones i worked with was literally talking on her phone the entire night in a language i couldn't understand and she'd constantly ask me to do things that she either didn't want to do or didn't know how.a lot of these patients probably die simply because the places hire angry black women.
>>531144485She probably refused water, dumbass. People who are dying do that. You wanted them to pump her full of saline to extend her misery for a few days?
>>531140834Do they kill sick dying people....YES..They kill them off even if a little sick and could get better...The government killed many millions of old people when the FAKE PANDEMIC was here..NEVER TRUST THE DOCTORS,,,FAKE PANDEMICS.
>>531140834No, at least not here. They make them as comfortable as possible to ease their passing, but they don't kill them.
>>531145031Yeah, i've noticed this. They milk their insurance or benefits until they can't anymore. And then once the person has no more resources, it seems like they don't even let them leave the hospital. Is this true?
>>531145446They have a fiduciary responsibility anon.
>>531145239>She probably refused water, dumbass.See this: >>531145446My issue is them pressuring people into death simply because of insurance issues and they refuse to give people basic treatment. Sometimes people want to live, even if its painful or uncomfortable
>>531144626I really doubt it. If you're in hospice then you're either riddled with disease or your body is exhausted so you're already on death's door. The morphine just makes the end less horrifying for both the dying and the loved ones.
>>531146083I mean the stuff purposedly finish off stage 4 cancer patient. I Don’t know how, many ways. Im not saying with Morphine or oxycodone overdose but do they „nures” do things to finish off patient like lethal dose or something
It depends,My father and i had a discussion about "assisting" his mother/my nanaNurse basically said dont ask dont tell. There wouldnt be an autopsy so...Hospice care shows up immediately when you report death to dispose of meds. Jus f.y.i. polish fren
>>531144385Morphine only accelerated your mom's death it limits breathing.
>>531140834somewhat. Though it's always wrapped around the concept of pain management. That said, hospice is the department which helps people transition into death. The heart guy does the heart, the bone guy does the bones, and hospice does the dying.The drugs they give you for the pain will kill you if you get too much, and everyone knows this. Many diseases which will kill you shortly also screw with you badly in the end, so "pain management" in the hospice wing gets pretty aggressive and pretty fast. If there is no hope of recovery (and there wouldn't be if they are there), than any twitch from an unconscious patient can be seen as a 'sign of pain'; at least enough to trigger another shot.If you want to be morbid about it, they also put on (what my sister and I cynically call) "the balloon channel". This is the TV channel they run in the room that shows pictures of balloons, clear skies, with the comforting voice which says stuff like "you gently release all that is causing you stress", and other stuff.
>>531140834They dont kill hospice patients. What I do believe is that organ donors arent rendered life saving care so their sweet l, sweet organs can be shipped off to Tel Aviv though.
>>531140834they are doing away with Jello Biafra right at this very moment
>>531144652A nurse once told me that letting patients die on their own as soon as they are too weak to move or eat is common in medical care. Another nurse told me you have to advocate on the patient's behalf. Doctors and nurses won't go out of their way to provide good service. They use the "threatening behavior" excuse even on patients that are bedridden and barely capable of moving their limbs.
I think that having my father dying at home was the best choiche, having a terminal patient to care is hard, they are full of pain, wrath, confusion, strangers are going to deal with him as a job, its better to suffer with you relative to understand better on your own skin what it mean to deal with dying people, I unironically think that this is an experience that with the right mind, can grow you a spine, especially in youths.
>>531140834they do sometimes
>>531140834yes
>>531140834Yes and no. They ease the pain on the path to death.
>>531143907they do it, it's basically an open secret and has been a topic of debate for decades.
>>531140834they did with my grandpa because he was ready to go and we all agreed to it.
My father, who had cancer, was given a fentanyl patch.He died three days later.
>>531140834You get hooked up to a morphine/muscle relaxant pump when your body starts shutting down. Shit is painful as fuck.It's what they do to the elderly before that that's beyond the pale, such as give the demented antipsychotics, something that's 99% guaranteed to give them strokes.
>>531144626Yeah they give em fent til they pop fr
>>531144652> I had to literally stop my brother in law from burning the hospital downI was gonna ask why, then realized, oh yeah… all those other sick people in the hospital don’t deserve to burn alive.So you caught him at the scene with lighter and gas can?
>>531140834Morphine is basically easy mode at the end. Be thankful for it. Do people use it earlier than they should.. Well statistics. Be your own advocate. Make change while you're alive. And live around healthcare in areas of empathy and intellect.
>>531150623do not admit crimes on the fourth channel
>>531144485Depends whether it was necessary or not. The problem I see is where people are taught about these concepts but operate as sheep people, not really thinking or knowing wtf they are doing so problems arise. But for the record in end of life if you've avoided cancer, a heart attack etc. You can still have a failing heart, lymphatic system etc. The body ends up not being able to move the lymphatic fluid around or the heart cant do its job and fluid builds up. Getting the persons mouth moist is the most efficient way of feeling better while the body cant operate fluid disposal. If they did it correctly and didnt just kill her by thirst then they were the opposite of what you thought and very considerate to the very end. I did the same for my dog. I had a spray bottle of water and would give her a little trickle here and there for her clammy mouth and of course hoping she'd pull into better days. But cancer, old age, failing organs. There are limits.
>>531144003doesn't even help and fent is also useless for real pains
Are you cunts all retarded or what?They literally have a financial incentive to keep you alive for as long as possible
>>531143907Do you not know what hospice is? You sign a lot of documents indicating you fully understand that no effort of any kind will be made to treat or cure the person of any disease. No effort whatsoever will be made to extend their life. So if your dying of, say, ovarian cancer they just keep juicing you with morphine until your body gives out. Now, obviously, you could kill a person on day one with a big injection but that doesn't happen and it gives the person enough time to be visited by those who still care.
>>531144385Was she getting the death rattle? When I look online they talk of fluid build up in the lungs, the natural process of dying, they say its painless. But I wonder if they simply are so weak they cant tell you they cant breath. In some ways its inevitable but what if many can get another month etc if they dont just pump the morphine. I dont think it's right if they just try to time it with the family being there. Unless that's what the patient asked for long before in a good mental state. And if they actually do experience pain not having the energy to breath at the end and cant even tell you. That's fucked as well. I'd like to see info on brain signals monitored during this.It could be that when there's nothing left to do towards the end the morphine is absolutely needed. Otherwise some other form of mercy death. When my dog was at this stage she had some tears in her eyes and whimpered if there was too much water or a speck of food because she could barely swallow at all. Kills me thinking she might have been in pain in her inability to breath at the end.
>>531151861Saw it happen. Like really loud snoring with a bit of babble in it but it's not words or lips moving just the relaxing of the vocal area with heavy breathing. It wasn't a rattle it was super snoring and they were gone within two hours never moved just snored like a bear.
>>531151861>they say its painlessYeah, that's one of the white little lies they tell you.
>>531144003Too much morphine is to decrease respiration to you die. That's why its given.
>>531144652This is what happened to my aunt. We were the only ones trying to get her to eat. If she had trouble being hungry etc no one was passing her a blunt or any type of hunger inducer as far as I know. They would just go and come back again on schedule. I have a firend who's a nurse and she said at her hospital they put post sepsis patients on dialysis first thing and its like twice a day or something.They didnt do anything like that for my aunt despite all the money it costs which is absurd.The hospital before was great. But this secondary place had major flaws. And it really pisses me off my family isnt better at handling this stuff. Healthcare needs a huge push in the right direction especially with how many 2nd worlders are making it into staff positions. On top of hospitals likely being bought by drug lords and mega ceos. Everyone should talk about these things ahead of the fact not during or after.
>Old lady comes to hospice>Tells me she wants to go peacefully>Give her a lethal dose of morphine
>>531144385Same with my dadScreaming in pain from cancer ans looking at me to helpYelled for nurse in his kitchenIll never look at life againHavent smiled in the 5 years sinceThis life is absolutely mean and useless
>>531140834yes hospitals kill people
>>531143084Yeah my mom did it for my dad with drugs provided by hospice.
>>531140834youngest zoomer in the world
>>531140834Why would they kill the dying when they can make much more money by keeping them alive
What I don’t get is why not die by suicide before it gets to that point? Why milk life to the last second?
>>531152635When you're at the extreme edge of age, you'll feel exactly the same way about the lights turning off in the next second as you do right now.
>>531152727I guess. I don’t think I would. Not in the circumstances of death being within months.
>>531147879I had a salt lamp in the corner for my dog in her last 6 months. She would get upset in the dark at times. I brought her outside whenever I could to see the springtime and the birds as long as she was comfortable. And then back inside her safe cave (my room) I made a nice looking area with the salt lamp. Made sure she was comfortable and did my best to relax her while sounding authentic. She passed within 20 minutes.
>>531147879kill yourself
>>531148771It's good to have help though too. Shit can unravel for people pretty fast. Loss of sleep, major strain on the mind and body. Some people can even trigger schizophrenia going through a particularly rough experience like that if they were already prone to get it. I think most people should do it but its something to think about. 1 other person involved can lighten the load tremendously.
>>531148753i was in the hospital after an operation and when i asked for the anti-nausea medicine was told i couldn't have it (they told the chart they gave it to me) then they started refusing me food (this wasn't on the chart but they'd usually say they forgot to order as if that somehow removes their obligation to FEED ME)i was bedridden and unable to get up to use the bathroom but uninterested in asking the nurses to help given that when i tried it would take multiple hours and they'd finally come in and act like i'm somehow a problem asking for basic careafter a week of this somebody came for me and i was entirely withdrawn from all the abuseapparently this is just normal and when i pointed out to the doctor they had lied to the chart he just shrugged and said if i'm still having trouble when i get out he'll write a prescription
>>531140834Yes, not just hospice patients either. People living in extended care with late stage dementia who are otherwise healthy. Basically anyone who is debilitated and non communicative unless there is a real incentive to keep them alive might be killed this way.My aunt killed my grandfather this way. My stepfathers sister was killed like this in a long term care facility. Both had dementia and could not care for themselves but they were not actively dying. The "care takers" administer a lethal dose of liquid morphine and liquid Xanax and they stop breathing and die.
Well, enough of this topic for today.
>>531153468Funny how multiple people expressed discomfort with this topic in this thread when /pol/ constantly discusses man-made horrors beyond comprehension. Losing loved ones fucks you up
>>531152779If your age starts with a 2 you just don't know yet what it's like.
>>531152727I had some blood clots at one point and felt very strongly I was on the edge of death in this one moment. I mentally just felt like it was inevitable and had to accept it. Even if trying my hardest.I imagine that's how it is for many. They are stripped of choice. They can be tired and beaten that might help them say fuck it. But overall the only thing that helps is going crazy, being ignorant or being on cloud 9 happy as hell. I remember feeling like I could die without a care in the peak of my life in a particularly happy moment. Probably why morphine is used. It can just place you in that moment.
To be fair, death is brutal no matter how you slice it. The alternative is you go on until you are so weak that you choke to death from phlegm that you are unable to clear from your throat. This is how my dad went. When you are dying they give you little sponges of water to dab on the persons tongue and lips so they can have some water even though they can no longer drink. I gave my dad a couple of these and it dislodged some phlegm and he started choking and panicing. My brother and I held his hands but he was distressed and threw them off so we left the room and when we came back he was dead. Was pretty brutal.
>>531153006best I can give you is a DNR; which I think most people should keep on file
>>531153556are you dense? this radicalizes normies if only since most aren't rich enough to not have had those ends would have been possibilities. those 1pbtid of literal no content but to leave the thread are literal bots. literal "don't look at this thread goy" posts you took for "people". no one cares about loved ones irl
>>531140834they absolutely do. And there is a creepy culture of being so kind so the person will leave them something from their will. Pay us or face the pain
>>531140834if im on my deathbed please pump me with as much morphine as possible, this is the humane thing to do
>>531153739try to hide your interests in organ harvesting next time
>>531143907did it to my grandmother
>>531153135That's terrible. Maybe going forward people will live stream their hospital care and something more can be done. Evidence is always important to be able to litigate to make any real change.
>>531140834My mom was put into hospice and the breathing machine basically fixed her, she refused the drugs
>>531140834No they keep you alive as long as possible for that sweet, sweet insurance money.
>>531140834Yes, they do, sometimes
>>531151861The rattle sounds like a snore and was present the last few hours>>531152422I went to pick up my kids from the in-laws an hour later. I just wanted to curl up in a ball, but life wouldn’t let me. Hope you find some positivity in life bro. It’s worth living>>531147221 This had been happening to her prior to morphine use. Believe me, I have thought about it. After 5 years of fighting cancer, what’s a couple hours off your life to have it be less agonizing? She died 3 days after her 65th birthday ffs
>>531140834screen cap this and remind me in 30 years.there will be a new generation of terrorists in the form of old men killing politicians when shit hits the fan.
>>531153006>>531153792I had to scroll back up and see if you were the same person. Both of these posts you replied to didnt seem to advocate your response. Are you bipolar or something? What exactly is eliciting your reactions?
>>531153912right and since they wrote in the chart it happened then the truth is it happenedthey're very careful about that (if you read your notes you'll realize the doctors are very careful not to ever write anything that could ever be used against the medical system-quality of your own medical care is a secondary concern)
>>531150315To make them easier to manage
>>531154153Easy to manage, easy to shovel into a box.There's black box warnings on antipsychotics for people with dementia for a very good reason.
>>531154053go back to sleep
>>531154088I had a similar experience in a psych ward, they made it seem like a very rosy peaceful time
>>531140834No, they don't. Had a situation where someone was dying at a young age and they kept fighting it off over and over essentially waterboarding themself in their own spit for a day. The nurse did not give her a cocktail or anything approaching appropriate for the suffering except a drug that helps stop drool from pooling in the throat at the beginning stages. She cried for help as long as she could talk and was aware for almost all of it.
>>531154234Yeah, but report one nightmare or something and you're classified psychotic and they drug them down. I had them given to me as punishment before and I couldn't even move my legs to get out of bed
>>531143907Of course. All you have to do is dress up a career/societal innovation as virtuous when in reality it's a measure to proliferate culling of the tax cattle plantation in enough of a clandestine fashion to avoid mass scrutiny.
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>>531143907Yes. Very common to hear about elderly / terminally ill people suddenly passing away in hospice wards. In some cases they are pumped full of opiates and comatosed until they pass away. happened to a family member of mine who wasn't even 50
>>531154363Good old haldol punishment? Yeah, they do that in the loony bins here too.
>>531140834No, but they think about it all the time. When my patients become so horrible that I know death is the only solution, I get a terrible feeling of despair when in their presence. I have never intentionally harmed a patient, and never would. Least not because it would cause me serious legal and financial blow back; but also the patient’s families sometime can never give up and the moral repercussions of dealing with the sons and daughters of these husks is enough. But let it be known, we all always think about it. I hope I die swiftly and young enough before my body betrays my soul, bwcause the way we let our old die has got to be the most horrific it’s ever been in human history
>>531144485Sorry for your loss and sorry to hear you had to outsource care during the final stages. They make sure you die high as a kite so you don't get to experience the natural reflective state your brain creates before death.
>>531144485I'm sorry for your loss Anon. Neither of my grandparents (that I knew) who have died went to Hospice. All I can say is that in the end the thing which really seamed to give out was there lungs.
Would rather live in pain to the last minute than die helplessly like a cuck in hospice. This is coming from someone with chronic galbladder disease and a shitty liver.
>>531154452Look how happy he was when his boy made it.
>>531153468There is still good in the world, anon.
>>531154032Leaf I have two kids and a beautiful wife that just beat cancer. I have them but without them i 100 percent would heroIt is all for NOTHING
>>531154698Some would even claim there was more investment and emotion than some humans show with their accessories, I mean children.
>>531140834when It's my time, I'm just gonna go up the mountain with a bottle of Jim Beam
>>531154700But all that good and fun ultimately is gone and pain and suffering displaces.All that good and fun is lost forever. Look at an old picture of the family. A snapshot in life that will be gone forever. Every second gone forever.It literally means nothing - your life
>>531154700Checked, that .webm warmed my heat, thanks anon
>>531154964Love is eternal
>>531154783Not sure I agree entirely, but I agree about not wanting to live without the wife and kids. I would definitely find myself in a trench in Ukraine. It’s what I wanted back in the day anyways
>>531154297yeah e.g. if they forget your medicine it's better for them to write that you refused it than to go ahead and give it late. horrible incentives created by the system.although in my care they refused it out of sadism i thinkand often in the moment you don't have the knowledge about what's going on to call them on it.
>>531154505It wasn't quite halodrol but it was a gen 1 class one anyway. The law just changed so I can ask for compensation, so I requested my notes and there's no mention of any of the doses. I think it said somewhere I wasn't walking properly and needed reminded how to use my legs as if I was so retarded I forgot to walk and not that I got dosed for running away lol
>>531153629I could not leave my moms side when this happened to her i was a year ago and I still relive it every day and still just want to kill myself man. I am not sure how people learn to deal with it long term
>>531154783>>531154964So? What meaning do you need? Bear witness to your life and enjoy the fruit that is offered to you for you will surely suffering. Meaning or no there are good things in life and you are a fool if you deny these pleasures as you cannot deny your pain
>>531140834>Do they kill sick dying peopleNot in Canada.Are ruling class makes bank from the medical system.Publicly subsidized, privately profitable.
>>531155099The ethereal has the ability to transcend all material constructs. It's why subversion and parasitism is the weapon of choice. You must be lulled in to a state of amnesia and apathy to what is always accessible to a generative, sapient mind. >>531154972Don't let the inorganic stir you into a tizzy, anon. Not everything is ass backwards.
>>531140834My grandma wasn’t in hospice but the stinky Philippino nurses had her on oxygen with only one nostril tube in… She died the next day. They ALL need to go back.
those have been insane numbers of shills to have propagandized wageslavery until death
>>531154700but dogs aren't allowed cooked bones
>>531155210Sorry to hear it anon. The memories and loss will be with you forever but you are stronger for having endured it. Death is awful. You must enjoy your life and live it while you can. Happiness is as much of a choice as a state of being. Choose to be happy, your mother would want your to. She saw her parents pass and she continued to live her life, and the same happened to them. It is the way of life.
first the luigi psyop now shills against the fact normies are killed when old enough
>>531155210It fades a bit. Just hit year two and it’s less intrusive than before
>>531155163Sounds like they wanted to see you weak, to beg for help
>>531155099If eternal you mean up to lights out? Yes sir i agree.
>>531155210Its very hard. I totally get you. If that happened to my mom, I would either wither away, or become an absolute psychopath killer.The best way to make her happy now is to live your life in the best way you can. So she doesnt have to watch out for you and have her eternal peace. Until you meet again.
>>531140834That's how they killed my grandmother, or at least that is one part of it. She had breast cancer, had an operation to remove it and was put on chemotherapy, but a couple years later it had spread everywhere including the brain. Sometime later a hospice nurse came in and gave her morphine, to which she was deathly allergic. She died that night.
>>531155438Same thing with my mom during covid. 50 years as a nurse in this province literally helping people with cancer like she had. She was in remission and the cancer was 95% gone. They had their thumb up their ass with the scans and tests, a month and a half later she died of jaundice/liver failure/liver cancer. At this point there’s no more early life sections or conspiracy theories. There’s just knowing for me now. They want every white person fucking dead and so does every thirdie invader wether they’ll admit it or not.
>>531140834of course they do. more often they just don't change their diapers and let them die from sepsis.
>>531143081The floor above hospice in my local hospital is the chapel floor, when you go there you know you are well and truly fucked
>>531155255Once you have kids. Once you look into their beautiful eyes only the realize the future they have which leads to death. You HOPE they can, at the end of their lives, say…. ‘I had a really nice life’.But look past that. They die. They will basically not have existed in 2 generations. All they did, did not matter. All you lives about them is gone. Why? We do not exist. Its an absolute mind fuck. If you do not see this then the wall is high.
>>531155210Can believe i am saying this to a lead butI love you man. Know you arent alone.
>>531155814>She was in remission and the cancer was 95% goneyou're in denial anononce you get cancer you will die of cancerremission just means>we can't detect cancer cells for now not that they are gone and you're okay >the cancer was 95% goneyeah, that means 5% was still there and growing my mom died of metastatic breast cancershe too was "in remission" for a couple years after mastectomy until suddenly the cancer was everywhere: in the lymph nodes, in the brain, in the spine and in the liver because it was always there, just undetectableif your body produces a cancer cell and fails to kill it ONCE, it means it will happen again and you will die of cancer, be it 5, 10 or 15 years from diagnosis
if i show up to one of these places, will they mercy kill me under the table if i ask nicely.done with this world
My mom went to hospice. It was probably the best thing that could have happened to her. By that point she had lost control of her limbs and was going completely delirious. They gave her a shot and she basically went into a coma. Then 4 days later she snapped awake for a few seconds and told us that she loved us then fell back asleep. She died the next day, probably from dehydration. She had a very strict no life support contract. The hospice was completely free and either me or my brother stayed with her in the room for a week until she died.
>>531140834I have experienced 3 family deaths, and all 3 were “Palliative Care,” which means murder. Let me tell you, when you get old, your family can’t wait for you to die so they can move on. What you were to them when you were younger or they were little means nothing.
>>531140834does it really matter at that point?
>>531144626Yes. They kill them in the end. Regular doses of morphine.
>>531155998I have kids. I understand your point but I think it's just doomerism. We do exist, just not forever.
>>531156314>my son, I made you because I was horny and wanted a purpose, okay?>your fate is to die like grandpa >but for now, enjoy your life >t. dad
>>531140834Never pay any hospital bills.
>>531156483Life depends largely on your perspective of it. If you think this is your life then it is true. Maybe you should choose to think something that is more fulfilling.
>>531153556Yeah but at least you guys have MAID so if you are terminally ill you get to go out fast instead of hooked to tubes and shit on 20 different drugs not knowing who the fuck you are on the way out. At least with MAID you have some dignity while you're still coherent.
>>531140834It's also worth pointing out that "hospice" is a situation, not a location. So you can do hospice at home, at a hospital, or at another facility.
>>531156314I get it and try to look past it. Its. Impossible for me. I live in hell mentally.Existence is absolutely absurd for the enlightened
>>531140834It’s an open secret. They turned the dosage limiter off on my Grandma and made sure she knew how to give herself as much morphine as she wanted. She was dead the next day with a dry morphine drip.
>>531155998I know its just a simulation. Or the be more precise, a prison. We are so much more than we could ever even dream about. The only question is, how to truly escape this prison and not fall into another elaborate trick by beings, who are, in our current state, vastly superior to us.
>>531156652>>531156664the goyim know
>>531140834I’m fat and gay
>>531156664Sort of like Antifa.
>>531152490This man is a homosexual.
>>531156777Hans…. You get it. Your favorite part of the day is looking forward to sleeping and dreaming incredible dreams? Ike the dream world is soooooo much better than the ‘real world’ and makes much more sense? Then you wake up and just dont want to?
>>531157169This. I don’t even care about the dreams. I prefer dreamless sleep. It’s just like death. I can’t wait for it to be permanent.
>>531156689You're not as enlightened as you think if you can't enjoy your life. I went through the dark night of the soul and came out the other side. It sounds like you're right in the middle of it. Keep pushing and you will integrstet your shadow and become one with your old and your new self.>>531156821Call rebbi Schneerson, it's unironically over
>>531155538>>531155555>>531155771>>531156099thanks bros
Yes, they do. For a lot of hospice patients, they are so out of it, and in pain, that they keep getting more and more morphine, and eventually overdose.
>>531157169>Your favorite part of the day is looking forward to sleeping and dreaming incredible dreams?yep>Ike the dream world is soooooo much better than the ‘real world’ and makes much more sense?yepas I get older my dreams get more creative but aslo internally consistentI recognize in them all my life experiences remixed and recreated in sometimes crazy ways I literally wake up laughing like 'wtf was that jf' and I write the dream down before I forget it get a few good keks out of reading that stuff later
>>531157256But you wont even know permanency because you are not even sentient anymore. You mean nothing
>>531154524>but also the patient’s families sometime can never give up and the moral repercussions of dealing with the sons and daughters of these husks is enough.Just look at all the responses in here talking about how they think the nurses killed their alreaey dead grandparents and parents. I rest my case
>>531157446Indeed. Sounds based.
>>531157258I am 55 and have been dealing with this nonstop for 35 years. Read everything, hypnosis, meds, shrink, meditation etc Nothing escapes the fact of meaningless. Observe humans in their everyday lives and their fact importance. Alllllllll distractions. Jobs, gym, diet, cars, houses, sports.Alllllll meaningless under it all. Why? We all die but most don’t confront until needed.
>>531157446you need to larp as a catholic till you believe. you think this way because you are Godless. I wanted to kill myself and thought as you did all the time, that its all meaningless. I'm too naive to believe that this is all just an accident. The fact that you have a beautiful child who loves you, how do you not see the spark of the maker in them? I don't get it.
>>531145233>a lot of these places that are simply just providing assistance and no actual medical care tend to be staffed entirely by fat black women, a lot of which actually come from africa or jamaica or something.yep. where do you think the "day of the pillow" meme comes from. if you get put into an old folks home you are essentially queud up for murder. it's how the goyim get dispatched once they have done their labor and duties. dignified dying is not something set as priority in this country, in fact death is as taboo as pedophilia. you don't talk about it and when somebody's dying they get put away from public and treated by professionals. it's a sad afair. now with maid being tested in canada we will see waves of cool wine aunts and weird uncs off themselves. not just boomers but especially millennials, a generation which needs to be kept as poor and powerless as possible and then eventually must be discarded as quickly as possible so that the jews can snatch up all those precious boomer assets for the largest transfer of wealth in human history, aka the great reset. PS: statistically the serial killers with the highest kill ratio are either truck drivers killing prostitutes or old folk home nurses killing old people.
>>531157434This pollllllllock knows!!!! Ty anon. Nice knowing it is just not me.
>>531156821>>531156983Not really sure why people are having problem with death care; or why everyone's jumping on me for demystifying it.I've grown old enough to have seen both of my parents grow old, weak and die. Death comes to us all; but the mechanical processes by which that happen can be difficult for everyone, the dying and the survivors alike.So I'll give you my father as an example. He was the survivor of multiple strokes, and what finally got him was something called "status epilepticus"; which is basically where everything in your brain fires at the same time all the time. For those who are familiar with EEG charts, (see image) is example of what it looks like. That wasn't his chart, but a close enough internet version to make the point.In that situation, he had too choices:> give him the drugs which will stop the seizures, but will also kill him> don't give him the drugs, and have him shake himself to death while his brain melts down.He was going to be dead either way.Hospice is the term (and technical line) where medicine stops trying to save you, and starts to help you pass on as peacefully as possible.Meanwhile, I've got a DNR (do no resuscitate) on file, so I don't plan on fighting very hard myself when my time comes
>>531156653Yeah. There’s something about electing to be killed that doesn’t sit well with me. Seems a little (((off))) to me. We’ll see when I get there
>>531157670We got a schopenhauer over here.
>>531157721Cradle to grave bon practicing cath here.I see that spark in other animals which proves to me my kids aren’t anything special to anyone but my family. Just like all of the animal world When you simply realize that you and everything you do is truly meaningless then you will feel true existential pain and go through life as a shell underneath a strong persona for others that still believe in importance.
>>531157670Distractions from what? We are here to experience life. These distractions are life for those people. Is there any virtue or utility in constantly thinking about death or the absurdity and futility of things? I would argue that there isn't. Your thoughts are the tools to build your life, they are the foundation of all of your experience. Your ruminations are as much a distraction as a daytime TV or the inane chatter of women.People are inhabited by energies and they live out lives that allow for the expression of that energy through their deeds and thoughts. Your energy is expressed by engaging with your life as you do but it doesn't make it right or true. Maybe you can change it, maybe you can't, but you definitely cannot make a choice if you don't acknowledge that there is one to be made.
Is death preferable to a life as a loosh cow?
>>531158094I stopped at your second sentence. Why?
>>531154272How about you grow a frontal lobe?
>>531158154No. If we are loosh cows so be it. Cows still get to graze under the sun. I have been to the Monroe Institute, I live pretty close to it. They are still cracking away up there.
>>531157906>Meanwhile, I've got a DNR (do no resuscitate) on file, so I don't plan on fighting very hard myself when my time comesMight be redundant. Doctors always recommend DNR for terminal patients using the same generic explanations (e.g., bones breaking) regardless what you're dying from. Having a DNR just makes it easier for them to declare you legally dead before they harvest your organs (if you're an organ donor).
>>531145233Imagine how much worse it'll be in 30 years when millennials are starting to pop up in these things... Fml
Without sex, food, and drugs there is no pleasure and life and it’s boring. I don’t care who disagrees this is just a fact. It’s what people spend their whole lives chasing. >inb4 have a familyYes and the cycle continues for no apparent reason at all. The same chase. What’s the use?
>>531158229Because you reject the suggestion that your misery is self imposed and not an enlightened state.
>>531143907If people can get away with something, they'll do it. Why do you think I built an army of robots?Like Hell I am trusting humans.Every bolt and screw is my critique on a race that didn't, perhaps couldn't, care for their own by themselves.Rage.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pT1BBg-Sehg
>>531158325Mine goes more than that. Having watched all of my older generation go, I notice that life seems to follow the following pattern...> Life is going on as normal> Some major medical event occurs> Over time, you recover from that event, but you're never as good as you were before> then you have a second major event> you may or may not recover, but life is much worse> you dieMy plan is to not treat the first major illness. The quality of life reduction in that final stage is so extreme, and so total, that no rational person would ever allow themselves to be put in that position. I have no intention on going that way.
>>531140834yeah they did it to two of my grandparents. In the NHS you arent a customer, you are a cost center so they free up beds by 'making comfortable' which means huge doses of morphine and no food or water until you die.
>>531158444Anon i agree. It is self imposed. You are not wrong but there is a point when the veil dissolves and you will see life for what it is and no voodoo shit can undo it. It is self imposed because after decades of research, spiritual searching, living life, watching birth with tears in my eyes ans conversely watch death with tears in my eyes i have come to this simple conclusion that none of this matters. Non of it. Watching relatives fight iver inheritance makes me laugh. Watching jews squirrel their money away then realizing at the moment of death that they cannot bring it with them is cartoonish.Most people just dont get it. I am not saying i do, trust me, but i know this world as we know it is meaningless.
>>531158068>When you simply realize that you and everything you do is truly meaningless then you will feel true existential pain and go through life as a shell underneath a strong persona for others that still believe in importance.Do you get no solace for this in prayer? Even if you say it is meaningless to you or to those who came after you, why worry about that now? Why not spend the limited time concerned with your loved ones? Maybe you are right in a sense, but I see no point in dwelling on it. I think it's honestly a thing of pride. I had some panic myself dwelling on 'the fewness of the saved' doctrine. I really don't like the idea of it. But you basically have to be like a kid and just say 'I trust that God knows better than my own judgement'. This verse basically sums it up. 'Verily I say unto you, Except ye turn, and become as little children, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven.'
>>531156125I think what also happens is you can get in remission but if you dont get to swimming/walking etc and build the body back up into a state that can kill off cancer cells and get to a state where your organs are healthy it will take you out that way just like it would a person without cancer. Depends how old and weak you are. And that 5 % of cancer if its not being eaten up by a strong body and some sort of therapy that's working then hard to say if its attacking your liver and going undetected or somewhere in your brain. Every situation will be different but if there's an advocate checking up on your that you trust you'll have a better chance.
>>531158871This. There is no god and we are ruled by nature. People who believe in an afterlife are retards.
>>531158872Hey anon. I wish but i am non practicing and truly consider myself agnostic or maybe better deistic. If i had something i truly believed in and could give my pain to? I wouldnt be this way. I always respected the believers. I respect you and love all. Thats also the part that really hurts.
>>531157434That's how dreams work. It's a semi randomization of your memories. Whatever you think about and do the most tends to be most involved in shaping them. Although that sometimes can hide under the surface of the dream. Someone highly focused might not understand that and interpenetrate it.
>>531159055> People who believe in an afterlife are retards.Yeah okay, clown. You can believe in fantasy universes like LOTR or your favorite Marvel film easily, but an afterlife is what is completely incomprehensible to you.Kek
>>531158782yeah this really is how it goes huh. Im not at that age but its kinda nuts how you just talk to some boomer and then they tell you they had a stroke out of nowhere. Kinda spooky.
>>531143907Mass manufacture has already begun. I have perfected Project E.D.E.N.There are multiple branches of it hidden all over the world and they are only spreading. Growing. If you truly had cared, you would have dug deep and struck harder at the beast. I risked everything to effectively pull the rug from under the entire industry and all associated religions that profited off of pain. The sheer amount of people I had to kill to achieve this was monstrous. I am still not even close to finished. But I made my bed warm. This will work.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LUsLDzXWUU4
>>531158871So what if it's meaningless? If you imbued your life with meaning then it will have the meaning you give it. It's a choose your own adventure.
>>531159181Cope retard. There is no sky fairy to come and save you.
>>531159153just larp as a catholic lmao, go to a latin mass. do it for a month every sunday. I don't know why, but pretending to believe this stuff sort of worked on me. To be fair I always had a predisposition to religiosity and to the divine. I get that it would be difficult if you didn't have that.
>>531157670I've been plagued by this since I was able to talk. First conversation I can remember was me in the hallway asking where I was when my father who was larger than me was here and I who was smaller wasnt. I couldnt get these thoughts out of my head and was doing a sort of astral projection on car rides home on hollidays and in my bed at night sometimes. Eventually had to sleep on the floor for a while to feel grounded and not off in my mind in an endless expanse of universe. Wondering where the end was or how anything could come from nothing. By the time I was in middle school I came to the conclusion we were unlikely to be able to understand these concepts given the limits of our reality either biologically or otherwise. And that gave me some peace. But watching family members fade right in front of you and the nights that are too quiet. Hell even the daily inbetween. I just catch myself either disturbed by these thoughts once more or at least pondering how so many others can be literally confronted with these ideas and shrug just not giving a fuck. Ignorance truly is bliss. At least until it is forcibly confronted by an inescapable circumstances.
>>531159259I've got my spiritual life all figured out, bro. If you want to honestly doom yourself to the idea that this physical world is all that exists, that's on you.You're in a prison of your own making, no refunds
>>531159595Show proof that there is anything supernatural about this realm. I’ll wait.
>>531159473> just larp as a catholic lmaoYEAH, DUDEJUST PRETEND TO MOLEST THOSE ALTAR BOYSHELL FUCKIN' YEAH BROTHER
Hospice is a jewish invention to kill off older white people. In the past the sick elderly would live with their kids and their families in their last days. Now they are put in expensive housing with low paid brown wagies
>>531159667he will now attack you with esoteric language for harshing his mellow let him have his "spiritual life" it makes him feel better and it probably good for him
>>531159473Hey anonGood for you. Mean it but i was just thinking again as religion was certainly created for many reasons but mostly to control the masses. Most people are sheep. Perfect.1:1 communication makes much more sense because it is real. On your time. No genuflecting for ego centric narcissistic cult leaders of yore. I am 100 percent certain Must sleepNite all and love dem dreams! I am excited.
>>531159795Kek true
>>531159667There's nothing supernatural about this realm, the supernatural lies in the world beyond that you refuse to believe in anywaysYou're committed to rejecting that, so keep at itNOREFUNDS
>>531140834They do...I witnessed a man die from this..The family was told him that he was terminal for some reason.I stood in n the room and watched him fade in and out of lucidity from a constant pumping of morphine. In the moments between the morphine pumps he would come to and begin rambling and I'll never forget how afraid and confused he seemed to be. I have tried to block it from my memory, most of what he said, but I'll never forget the look in his eyes and the moment he said something about it being "terrible"...Eventually he was filled with so much morphine he just faded out and died. It was shocking
>>531160062Sounds horrific
>>531160121His daughter and granddaughter just stood there looked on at him sobbing heavily.Imagine those being your last moments on this earth.
>>531160062We've all seen what they did during covid. People can't seem to grasp that nothing, *nothing* is more important that profit. Certainly not human life. Keeping a sick person in a bed is rarely profitable.
>>531159473>>>> "catholic"The last thing this world needs is more blasphemous mary-worshippers deluded by popery.Fuck Catholicism and the Orthodoxy desu
>>531158810Hospitals are obligated to free up beds because they have contracts with nursing homes/hospices to provide them with certain amount of people.
>>531143081>>531140834hahaha no. your average hospice care specialist is a fat nigger bitch now. she doesn't give two shits about your suffering, she'll just end you if she gets tired of your shit, and cleaning it up from you. you cannot fathom how effortlessly a 312 lb wonderful can smash in an 88 year old mans skull. hospice is donkey kong.
>>531140834I had a great-grandfather with two daughters, the one he entrusted his care to had him pulled from support prematurely and he died agonizingly over a week, all she could spend the ~$100k or so he had left on herself
>>531158068Honest almost every living creature on earth seems to have similar sentience to some degree. Some talk, some dont. Some have 360 degree vision, some dont. Some are mostly on instinctual, other's stop and think often. But they're mostly just different flavors of our own experience. They say insects dont need water. But then they don't only because they generally get it from plants they eat, or other insects, the dew off the ground or the moisture in the soil. But when you find an insect in your home if you are thoughtful enough to not squish it out of convenience or ignorance. Often times you'll find if its a ground dwelling or generally walk-abled creature, they are often thirsty from a day or two or even a half a day away from those sources of water and if put outside itll be in the lawn that has some moisture underneath but sometimes I'll put them in a glass. put a small spash of water in and roll it nearby them. And the majority of the time they go right to it and start drinking. Even ones the size of a pencil tip. If these creatures were the size of a dog or a cat there would be hundreds of thousands of advocates talking about these things. But they're not so they just get treated like they are non sentient drones. But there is fair chance the only difference between ourselves and one of these seemingly insignificant pests is just random chance. So you take the culmination of these epiphanies. And the experiences of seeing people die or ruminating on the body being so frail and temporary and it's hard not to find yourself apathetic to other's mundane celebrations. But it is true, therapists often find that happiness comes mostly to those in motion. You can sit and feel dead inside about it or you can go outside touch grass and forget as long as possible until reality has to come back and smack you in the face. Just put me on the list for anti aging technology. That's where people should be stuffing their extra billions right now.
>>531160466You don't have to put someone in a hospice facility to get hospice. My dad got hospice at home and they gave us a bed, drugs, and nursing assistance.One of the standout moments was an old black hospice nurse coming to the house to give my dad a sponge bath which included her tenderly stroking his cock while he looked on in awe. I don't think l forget that one any time soon.
My uncle was dying of stage 4 cancer and yeah they basically gove the family/friends watching over the dying a button to administer a lethal amount of morphine. That's what ky dad told me, at least.
>>531160964Lmfaoooo
>>531160062This is exactly what happened to my aunt who was dying of lung cancer. And I have to wonder now if it was mercy or something else. She sure seemed better when she was just on oxygen. But I was more of a kid then and not that involved in all the details so I dont know. One thing I remember aside from the same confusion and fear etc her crying out i cant believe this is happening. Is when I would talk to her and help her. Out of multiple doctors nurses and 15 or so family members. I was the only one who noticed she had hair swallowed down her throat. And carefully pulled them out. LIke 14" pieces of hair. If you have any chance to have someone advocate for you. Set that shit up now.
>>531153135When I was in the hospital and bedridden as well it took 8 hours for someone to finally come in when I needed to shit. That someone wasn't a nurse, doctor, anything of the like, it was a paramedic I knew that was in the ambulance ride who came in to check on me. Zero service that entire time. He got them to actually help me and once they did I told them I'm leaving no matter what. If I was going to suffer and die I'd rather suffer and die in the comfort of my own home.Never went to the hospital ever again, never will either. The only way I'm going to the hospital is if I'm unconcious. But for those less stubborn, never go to or let anyone you know go to a hospital alone while not being able to care for themselves.
>>531140834The entire point of hospice is that the person is already dying and you are attempting to make them as comfortable as possible. Our hospice team was absolutely amazing. My grandfather was horrifically afflicted with alzheimer's. Absolute shitting screaming violent self-harming lunatic who was always scared beyond words. Towards the end, after 8 years of fighting this, as his body began shutting down, he only became even worse and a danger to himself and everyone around him. Despite actively beginning to die he was still insanely strong. The morphine gave him a peaceful, painless, dignified death. I will never be able to repay our hospice team for the absolute relief and closure that just getting to see him go in such peace after going through this 8 year long absolute fucking nightmare gave me.
>>531161598the whole fucking ostensible purpose of a hospital is to care for people who can't care for themselvesi guess the true purpose is to make money for the operators. i hate this world.
>>531140834Yeah they do, if you don't have visitors you get killed lot faster too.
it's an open secret, hospice is basically soft euthanasia. It's framed as "making the last months of their lives comfortable" but no one enters hospice and lives for months, even if that was the original prognosis. If someone enters hospice they will be dead within the week. They load them up with so much morphine that they, in their already weakened body, can't breathe anymore.The family is usually totally OK with this since for one, it's not sold as assisted suicide but as "pain management", so less moral dilemma. But also the last weeks of supporting a dying cancer patient's life are hellish so they find relief that it's finally over.
>>531162804The question is whether or not it's beneficial to prolong life. From what I've seen the euthanasia is debatably better than extending life to the last possible second. Those last few weeks are hell for both the sick and for the caretakers. Maybe euthanasia is better. For my dad it would have been better for him if he didn't experience the last two weeks of his life so he could die from suffocation in a blind panic. There were no good moments, no epihpanies, nothing that redeemed that time and the pain that he endured. The only thing that I can say that's positive is I learned that I'm an extremely capable caretaker.
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>>531140834When people are really close to the end they start giving them morphine but not usually before and I've never seen an OD. In fact I've seen people on hospice survive for years completely bedridden when i worked in senior care. Quality of care in that facility went downhill in a major way over the 4 years i was there. Lots of foreign nurses and especially cnas just get it becuase it's a comparatively easy certification and do not give a single shit. Bare minimum of care where whether it's neglect or not couldn't be proven. It's a job and that's it. Some are even actively hostile and mock the residents behind their backs. Baleted first post cuz drunk and too many typos.
I’m still gay and fat.
>>531143907Yes. Happened to my Uncle with Cancer. They just turn up the morphine drip and slowly turn down the food.Also, not many know this, but there's very strong evidence that opioids facilitate cancer growth. My Uncles cancer fucking exploded when he was put on a morphine drip. Caused by MOR-driven PI3K/AKT/Src signaling, loss of E-cadherin, and immune suppression
You’re right OP, hospice is evil, we need to let 95 year old grandma die choking on the secretions caused by aspirating on all the food you are forcing down her throat instead of passing peacefully doped up on drugs
>>531140834I think so. I put my mom in hospice and the day she was gone.
>>531145316>" And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse," > Mark 5:26>" And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians." > 2 Chronicles 16:12>" But ye are forgers of lies, ye are all physicians of no value." > Job 13:4 >" And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years, And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse," Mark 5:25-26>" And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any, Came behind him, and touched the border of his garment: and immediately her issue of blood stanched." Luke 8:43-44
>>531140834Dying from a fent overdose sounds pretty based
>>531145316they killed my cousin who was only mid 60s. that weirds me out lots
>>531166948ONLY mid 60s lmao. Time to die faggot.
>>531140834My dad had pancreatic cancer. It metacisized and went to his brain. Started getting bloodclots and having mini-to-full on seizures.We went to visit him in the hospital, he was out that weekend.He had one more episode and then his fiance and his mother put him on hospice.Didn't even last 3 weeks being on hospice.Morphine kills your body's response to thirst, hunger, and pain. I will kill you of dehydration and hunger. Don't put your loved ones on it. Try to get them on medical marijuana. Especially if they live in a state where it's recognized as medical or even recreational.
>>531167059It will kill you of*
>>531153184Nursing homes used to be for people who needed long term recovery, It was never supposed to be for broke fucking boomers to live in, thats what hospice is for.
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>>531157541Typical American shit for brains response where anyone else with a semblance of humanity is an "idiot" or apparently their grandparents or parents have died. Imagine being that fucking thick skulled, no wonder WHOLE FUCKING WORLD hates America and it's pathetic subhuman people. Enjoy what little years you have left Ameri-trash, your days a numbered
>>531167059wtf man are you retarded?marihuana for cancer pain?are you stupid or what.oxycodone, buprenorphine, morphine, they all HELP.
>>531167059but marihuana is also nice addition to oxycodone or other beccause it makes both things work better more anti pain, and it help eat
Normalize MAID for terminally ill people and trannies.
>>531167059Close relative of mine suffered far worse after being prescribed fentnyl patches and other opiates during stage 4 cancer treatment. I suggested edible medical cannabis to their doctor and shortly after my relative was able to lower painkiller dosage Significantly and able to to EAT and SLEEP, as they severely struggled while solely relying upon opiates. Unfortunately my relative became a little to confident, falling on flight of stairs breaking ribs resulting in ambulance call. unlike other times,they took the patient straight to hospice and shortly thereafter their death occurred which was a shock as they were coherent and active a few days before. There's some idiots here trying to frame what I'm saying as blaming the medical system, but reality seems to be once you hit a threshold for medical help as terminally ill patient, you are delegated to hospice / aka death
>>531140834I worked for a private service that assisted people choosing to stay at home at the end of their life. Whenever we saw one of those Hospice nurses we knew the client would be dead the next day, no matter what they were called for.
>>531140834My aunt went to hospice like 5 years ago and came out to a home, she is turning 100 this year and is only just recently back on hospice. An act of God. No other way to describe her. It would make you sick to your stomach what she did with her money. Absolute goy.
>>531168793My theory is they pump you fill of vitality while you have money then switch when you don't. Nobody knows this, but the top most people. The whole system is probably in place in plain sight.
>>531168793Stop lying faggot nobody lives past 80
>>531168848This adds up. Early on in cancer treatment they want it to look like you are getting results from the thousands your poor family are handing over as, you're likely a disabled geriatric anyway, so they prop up you up to look good and literally the second you become inconvenient for them, you're IV is switched to 100% opiate fentanyl and you're family is told "Oh no, the sickness has *ahem* suddenly taken over *cough*. sorry, or something, about that"
>>531169086Nu goys don't live passed 80.>>531169268The rabbi knows geberational wealth is very powwrful.
>>531170237Posting on Firefox mobile kind of sucks.
>>531140834Usually the patient or the family asks for it. Mostly done when they're in great pain.
>>531143081>the dehydration is kind of what kills you.Forget the hospice nurse channel. But refusing water triggers metabolic turning down the lights in a way that's necessary for a peaceful transition.
>>531140834The pro tip on terminal illness is, don't put your family through it and don't go to a hospice. So that leaves killing yourself before you're bed ridden
>>531145233ESL in itself is hazardous. Some cunt nurse that can't into informed consent trying to push shit your primary's explicitly prohibited, and they can't be assed to read your file can be a death sentence without a second present there in your room as an advocate. Seeing under the Big Pharma hood will make you realize we didn't 'win' the Cold War.
>>531159055Youre likely just as retarded.
>>531140834They wait until your medical coverage stops paying but yeah, after that they do.
>>531170525why?
>>531145385Naive
>>531158325>m. Having a DNR just makes it easier for them to declare you legally dead before they harvest your organs (if you're an organ donor).If you're in the camp of non-government gene therapized from 2020, you may need to expedite the transfer of the body directly to cremation/mortuary custody, particularly in times of troubles where Rule of Law is in question.
>>531140834yeah they pump you full of opiates which depresses the respiratory system and makes you stop breathing, then they just call it natural causes. highly effective against very weak and/or elderly people
>>531171074what a nice way to go. totaly high.
>>531160964Did he get a boner?
>>531167211Lol whew!
>>531140834They give them so much plain old morphine they stop breathing.In the US, they characterize it as prioritizing the patient's comfort over their actual health without explicitly saying it's meant to kill them.In MAID countries, they give the patient a fucked up poison cocktail with no antidote that probably makes for a much worse experience but doesn't run the risk of organ damage.The US version is more humane, only used as a very last resort, and it's actually possible to reverse with naloxone if there's been a mistake.
>>531140834They're not killing. Terminal patients are in a lot of pain. Giving them pain meds is a must. There's no point in letting terminal people be in unbearable pain. They won't get better. I've never been in this sad scenario, but I'm guessing that people seeing a loved one in pain, also agree to them being drugged.
>>531140834they morphine OD the patient
>>531175088just buy fent and do it yourself
>>531173501>Dying people are very concerned with organ damage
