DAY 21 OF THE 4 DAY SPECIAL COMBAT OPERATION TO TOPPLE IRAN!!!!!!!!!!OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>531162725Holy Crap!!Thanks for the high quality news Mustafa Saadoon
This means we are winning. Trump initiated this whole thing in order to decouple from our reliance on the Middle East and our footprint there. We’ve annihilated their leadership and military capabilities. Israel will finish the job and the gulf states will work with Israel to ensure Iran’s reign of terror meets an end.
Trump has taken us right back to the bush years, fuck neocons
>>531162725Nothing says winning like evacuation.
>>531162725Yeah I watched that drone attack yesterday in real time. At least four got through AD and hit the base, one of the C-ram radars was killed by a drone the day before, and fpv drones are stalking the compound. They can't defend it.
>>531162725Is this real? Baghdad is still divided in war zones?
>>531162725>Winning is when you occupy Iraq foreverThis is a good thing
>>531162725Do Iraqis have any reasons to hate us?
lmao zogbots btfo
>>531162725Another W for the paper eagle
>>531163052Why don't they hit the launch sites?
>>531163090>retreating from vital bases not at a time of your choosing but from denial by enemy fire is a win.They either took casualties we don't know about yet, or almost did. Anyway, you're a fool.
>>531162725the USA is winning not the politicians, the american people because the evil regime that rules over them is going down, regoice Americans you will soon have free healthcare
>>531163192Mobile missile launchers mutt.
>>531163052Any videos? I've only seen one so far.
>>531162886Me when I'm retarded
>>531162725STOP LAUGHING. NOW.>>531163137>>531163164>>531163071>>531163013libtard tranny bots need to be banned from this site.
>Americans retreating
Not surprised, Iraqi shia groups have been hitting the embassy hard for the last couple weeks. It's still standing but it's been engulfed in flames multiple times.
>>531162725Watching the US empire collapse. What a time to be alive.
>>531163445Why are Iraqis hitting your embassy? Aren't they happy you brought them peace and freedom?
>>531162725>set up a military base as an embassy, a fortress in iraq.>set up an entire area zone to control the even more territory.Now you flee it holy shit.
>>531163414>were winning>runs away
Winning so bigly that staff are being evacuated
>>531163530Not at all, northern iraq is heavily shia and happily sides with the Iranians
>>531162725Iran has liberated Baghdad! >They will be welcomed as liberators.
brown polfags nowadays>OMG ZOG IS LOSING BASSSSSED PERSIA AND RUSSIA!>LEAVING THE SAFE ZONE MEANS THE US LOSTPre-trump polacks>Oh fuck, the US is going to escalate even further.>We are edging closer to World War 3>Israel was behind all thisI hate you brown niggers so much.
>>531162725The shia superstate risesWorst possible outcomes increasingly likely
>>531163192Why don't they hit the pedophiles?
>>531163777The establishment of a Greater Iran. . .
>>531162725The Green Zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only, there is no stopping in the Green Zone.
>>531162886Kill yourself if not posted ironically
>>531162725hopefully we never go back
>>531163745Yet both are correct, before the tourist it was still anti-war and kikes are to blame, and now its the kike puppet at war and suffering losses. Of course people will celebrate a kike puppet's losses, only kike cum guzzlers like yourself see this as strange.
>>531162725BACK IN BAGHDAD BUD LMAO
>>531162886He really is smart
>>531163866Checked and based Airplane! enjoyer.
>>531163777The high water mark of the Shia superstate was 2022, when Iran was running Syria after completing their ethnic cleansing campaign, Hezbollah troops and other foreign fighter battalions enforcing Iranian control there and in Lebanon, the Houthi ascendant and the axis of resistance intact. That's all gone now, and it isn't coming back. Honestly was fascinating to watch the Sunni rise after the fall of Saddam with aq in iraq, which became Isis, which was the high water mark of Sunni ascendancy after the 2nd Iraq war, then defeated, with the Shia ascendant in the vacuum that created, now we're at...whatever the fuck comes after this.
>>531163013I can’t wait for Iraqis to side with Iran against Israel and US. Maybe destroying generations wasn’t such a good idea. Oh well all that blood and treasure for nothing.
>>531162725Iran is doing something very dangerous. They're thinking that some mass casualty event ala Benghazi will make the US back off.Unfortunately the proper response from the US is to utterly fuck them so hard they cannot do that.>"And then help them rebuild, right?"...>"Right?"...
>>531162725>Israel burns through every single missile defence battery we have>Iraq left largely defenceless>Iran spends at most one week plinking missiles at hotels and areas known to host Americans>Iraqis start refusing to let any foreigners stay>drone strikes increase>America has to finally abandon its massive gay luxury zigurratI didn't know I'd be cooming so much today. Time to buy Gatorade.
>>531164238Iraq is doing what they should of done. Boot niggers out. No longer can fly there
>>531164271Dude that green zone cost hundreds of millions to set up. It's literally over. They are also not defenceless. They will just use it on Israel.
>>531164238>They're thinking that some mass casualty event ala Benghazi will make the US back off.Nigger, they hit a few hotels and kept harassing the Iraq base for the last two weeks, demonstrating how much more effectively they can strike without an air defense grid. Very, VERY easy to compare and contrast with their strikes over the last several years via proxies against a working grid. It's done. It's over.
>>531162725kek mutts are getting raped
>>531164271* important note>this was only possible after mercing our latest-gen radar grid in addition to draining response batteries
>>531163192Launch site? You mean the patch of sand the truck or van was parked on for a half hour?
It would be hilarious if after years of being asked to leave, we finally leave because of this shit
>>531164342If I were tasked with handling this conflict, I'd just clusterbomb civilian centers with white phosphorus and bunker busters and kill so many civilians it renders the nations insoluble.
>>531164341Oh, no, very aware. A cousin's brother was a major contractor from 2003 to 2007. If they're giving it up, it's because there's no coming back from this.>they'll just use it on IsraelWe're legit decamping in South Korea and SEA just to scrape together a battery kind of like what Israel had, specifically for Israel, and abandoning all our MENA partners. Nakedly. Broad daylight shit. This is apocalyptically bad for any sense of trust for US hegemony.
Trump will win this war by losing. it's 5D chess you wouldn't get it.
>>531162725new 9/11 coming along with WW3 lmao. Do your duty and shoot your drafting officer! Otherwise enjoy dying for Israel! Remember: you voted for this
>>531162725
>>531164427>uh uh uh I'll just hit Tehran about it>that won't cause them to redouble strikes from the mountainous staging areas no one can accurately map or disable>making them a revanchist survivalist faction will totally work out for mePositively nigger-tier.
>>531164524There would be less than 100,000 people alive in both Tehran and Tel Aviv by the time Congress got off their asses in order to stop me. Fuck all of those god-damned retards.
>>531162886great, we should draft all the jews into a jewish assault force and ship them to the iran theatre
Whats wrong either a shia superstate? They can balance israel. Also it was sunnis and israel that did 911 not shia
>>531162967>"Neocons"What do you think a "neocon" is but an Israel-first republican, anon?
>>531164568>ummm I'll just, you know, absolutely decimate the population of Israel too>the country with a well-documented nuclear Samson option targeting "enemies" and also allegedly "allies"There's nigger-tier thinking, then there's this. Jesus Christ, take a bath, dumbfuck.
>>531164454Did you, by chance, vote for this?
>>531164651>nuclear Samson optionNo. Modern. Country. Has. Functioning. Nuclear. Weapons.
>>531164679I in fact did not.>>531164682Nigger, no, we're not playing pretend.
>>531164651>Well documented>Hasn't done shitYeah fuck off.
>>531163052Ya and as soon as you start adding up the cost of not hitting anything with a centurion it's time to leave. Turns out liquidating your soft power to make Israel feel good is retarded... Who could have fucking guessed
>>531164723>what are the conditions for the Samson option and why haven't they been met yet, please rape my face
>>531164747Don't test your nukes they don't work. Fake and gay bluff.
>>531164784>uh just like do public tests for me, pussyNigger ...
>>531163013It's not though. It's tactical repositioning. Stupid sandnigger. Keep coping whilst Trump pummels you shitskins hahaha.
>>531164744But it makes Boomer MAGA's balls tingle, so we're just doing it. A generation and a half of global hegemony, vaporized. All to slake Bibi's urge for war before Iran gets just a little too powerful as a regional rival to counter.I'd laugh if it weren't going to be such a shitshow for the next 30 years.
>>531163791whoa cool it with the antisemtism
>>531164784The US specifically ran into an issue where they realized they had despoiled the heartland with radioactive particulate. Hence the massive spike of cancers that was attributed to tobacco to dodge dissent and an endless series of lawsuits. While smoking does cause cancer, the seeding of fields with the aftermath of nuclear tests was giving people turbo cancer.
>>531162725>glowie central in Iraq
>>531162725We need more MOABs.
It's a feint. This whole thing is about giving bad data to China, throwing off their estimates and simulation of US capabilities. You need to think big picture.
>>531164888At least I realized the late 90's were a golden age while I was living through it. Not a fucking care in the world. My biggest problem was trying to fuck the teen girls hanging around at my apartment. If you want to get laid, let them party at your place. I was 19 myself, no pedo.
>>531165030L3 Harris is hiring if you can solder.
>>531164151Shia dominance of course.
>>531162886It was a genius move that NOBODY predicted. Nine inch D chess in action. Trump got rid of a dozen of our middle eastern military bases AND crippled the economies of the Arab states permanently while destroying the petrodollar in the process. MAGA
Reminder that thousands of assad loyalist fighters and regime members crossed into Iraq and linked up with the Shia militia groups there after the fall of Assad, with their weapons. No way I can find it now but there's footage of them crossing the border and being welcomed into Iraq armed.
>>531163228>VitalTo whom? Israel? Don't need it.
why are more goycattle dying than kikes
>>531165970God willing Syria will be a free state again
>>531162725How come they never ever hold their ground?
>3 layers of our leaders are dead>7k+ civilians dead>oil fields bombed to shit>bombing in tehran continues>this means we're winningare all muslims this fucking retarded?
>>531165970Is our boy coming home?
>>531162725CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY WE CANT PROTECT OUR BASES WITH A 2 TRILLION DOLLAR ANNUAL MILITARY BUDGET.
>Try to take Iran>Can't even reach it>Lose Iraq in the process
>>531162725>drones evac helicopter next >now youse can’t leave!
>>531169794No. But those assadist fighters are now attacking American troops in Iraq, and almost certainly inside Iran helping the regime, so you can be happy about that I suppose.
>>531169356Gas field that Iran didn't have the technology to refine so they let the Qatari's do it from their side.Israel is sacrificing it's allies economies and hoping that they go along and blame Iran for it with mixed results.
>>531163745You're so bitter, it's pathetic
>>531162725It's to denazify Iran ashkually
>>531170262It's a numbers game, you can't stop every explosive and your hardware is incredibly expensive and difficult to replace.
>>531170652Every base in the middle east has been evacuated and turned into a parking lot>2 trillion dollars for what? For two trillion dollars it shouldn't be a fucking numbers game. Fuck our military give us the NHS for two trillion dollars
>>531164888We need to send the boomers to die for Israel this time.Normalize abandoning them in their old age if their pro sending young folks to die because CNN said its goodthing
>>531164238> noooo pls spare my zogboterinostime to die, mutt
>>531170968>give us the NHS for two trillion dollarsDidnt know you hated america that much damn
>>531163013“The U.S. moved its assets out of danger haha they’re not winning as fast as the mystical strawman in my head guithe!”It’s so hard to tell if I’m talking to bad faith brownoids or dumbfuck whites on /pol/, it’s gotten way worse since Trump got back into office.
>>531162886>pretending to be retarded as an excuse to leaveJust like Afghanistan, he really deserved that peace prize.
>>531162725Fuck off kiwi
>>531162725wow bros Trump is genuinely retarded he's going to lose to iran
>>531164644Rubio is horrified and immediately named them
>>531162967this reminds me, didnt we last year revisit bagram or something?
>>531163071not really just green zone massive fort where the central bank is locatefd etc.
>>531162725well we are officially losing if they are doing thisno cope around it
>>531171670i think because he realized as soon as it all kicked off that he was meant to be a scapegoat if anything went wronglol
>>531164524Based on your faggy response we should absolutely genocide the Persians and erase their history. Would be popping the cork to the end of the “International Law” illusion for sad little gay brown fags.
>>531170262>2 TRILLION DOLLAR ANNUAL MILITARY BUDGETIt’s just a scam by the MIC, they charge out the ass for any and every little part, and big number doesn’t mean more effective. Cheap ass drones are decimating multiple million dollar pieces of equipment.
>>531171260At least it would do more than nothing
>>531163192they can launch them anywhere they want retard. Even a hole in the dirt the pops open just to launch the drone. There is nothing the US government can do to stop these drones. Donald Trump is officially retarded and hopefully Benjamin Netanyahu is actually dead.
>>53116307195% of the Iraqi population probably want to kill Americans (who they literally call, "the jews")So burgers live inside a secure zone called the Green Zone.Since Americans have killed their equivalent of the Pope, they're even more unhinged than usual and have been firing shit at that areas for days.
>>531171853Where the fuck is DOGE when you need them
>>531164454Man Israel must be so thankful and such a great ally :^)
>>531171915Iraqis are largely Sunni, mortal enemies of the Shia minority (Iran)
>>531171820>just press X to worsen a regional conflict that turns into turbo-Vietnam for 40 years>I'll just erase whole cultures and expect nothing, all of history ended for me getting a handy at a Red Robin in 2006>destroying my own rules-based order of my own volition in a conflict I started on no clear pretext will no no way slit my wrists economically foreverOpen the fucking schools.
>>531163192I don't know nigger. Can you just walk outside and immediately know where every fucking bird you see was ten minutes ago?
>>531162875The U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, which opened in 2009, cost approximately $736 million to $750 million to construct, according to reports in 2007 and 2008, making it one of the most expensive and largest embassy compounds in the world at 104 acres. The final cost increased due to poor planning and construction issues.
>>531171820You're just posting your gay impotent fantasies
>>531172084Iraq is majority Shia.That's why Shia militias are threatening all US installations there.
>>531172087Kek
>>531162725>US HAS BEGUN MASS EVACUATION OF THE US EMBASSY "GREEN ZONE" IN IRAQ AFTER STRIKES AND FPV DRONESiraqiranusawhats difq is ?n?
>>531162725Hilarious.Aren't you out of gas?That's hilarious too.
>>531163052That c-ram seems like it can barely hit shaheds going 50 mph in a straight line, like half the time. Absolutely embarrassing. Thank god we found out before china starts sinking our carriers while they target birds or whatever.
>>531162725Why is America retreating in an air campaign?
>>531162725>under Epstein Fury duress>... maliciously comply as a fait accompli>perfect GTFO of NATO excuse pressuring all parties to come to terms in Ukraine>... can't and won't be the quagmire cue for Xi to become a world-historic Taiwan conquerer, confirming all his superstitious prophecy worst fears while having ongoing Youxia countercoup(s) to juggle>... and zero out UK dark money pipeline ground floor in Venezuela, and now Iran>Moscow & Beijing standdown on condemning their BRICS ally in the UN Security CouncilThe purported Zio-Occupied 'Great Satan' lost another puppet power projection node it would have evacuated prior to the operation anyways, and perhaps doesn't want anyways push come to shove? This is one gigantic practical geopolitical joke, as long as the Heel(s) don't get heated and start throwing unworked shoots.
>>531164454This is also the reason why Iran is bombarding all the american allies in the area. They have a bit more strategic foresight than the boomers yukking about it. They are going to show that you won't get to host a hive of whores in Dubai if you align with the US and they are unwilling or unable to defend you;
>>531162725Is this is what winning looks like, Trump-sama?
>>531164881The Green Zone is the most fortified part of Iraq. The Green Zone is a massive fortress built to avoid another Hostage Crisis. It is, by an extreme margin, the safest place in Iraq for Americans.Trump can't protect his own forts. Not from missiles above or pissed off Iraqis below. This war is over. America is defeated. It's over.
>>5311628866 gorillion D chess, trust israel
>>531173157Don't give up. You can still do this thing. I believe in you and the yank spirit ! Argh freeedom ahah!
>orange dude managed to destroy 70 years of US hegemony in just 1 year of presidencyDamn. It makes you wonder how much he's gonna ruin during the three years he has left.
The CIA station there has become completely powerless. CIA officers in the know of such things from arcane times tell of spirits howling, spirits that say things remembered from that blackest of books of Sumer and Babylon, the Necronomicon. The regular staff are almost completely in the dark. No one knows where the attacks are coming from. Everyone on the ground is told the same thing we are, that the IRGC has completely caved in, Tehran has been decapitated. But the spirits still howl, and Ishtar's voice grows very powerful in the hearts of her men who still remember. She promises fire from the sky for a long time to come.
kind reminder to anons that all "you voted for this" posters are hasbara shillsnobody voted to transform the US into a Jewish vassal state it just sort of happened in the background while Americans were choosing between red and blue flavors of corporatism
>>531162886Saving Iran for last.
>>531171481>“The U.S. moved its assets out of dangerApparently, goyim are not considered assets to protect.
>>531162886Hanoi, Kabul, Iraq... You mutts get BTFO and then pretend to be victorious
The americans are out of ideas cos no war films have been made for years, they have no punchlines ready.Heres one, an american base is getting droned tf, so the ingenious americans put clothes on $20k robots, program them to run around the base attracting the drones to less important positions. When all the drones are used up a door opens and a fat american stands there in a greasy tshirt and says 'not now, 'batin'Everyone cheered.
Is pol just retarded shitskins now? I fail to understand how completely destroying Iran is bad for America's image. Now the shitskins will think twice before fucking with us. Now Asia and Europe won't be able to trade. Now we basically have access to infinite oil. Strait of Hormuz being closed is great for the USA. Asia and Europe suffer while we grow economically. GG well played faggots, seethe and dilate.
>>531162967It's going to be tough for another GOP President to get elected as the military industry complex has them so by the balls. Especially since a tough-nosed outsider swearing no wars was made to kneel to them so easily. If Trump couldn't do it, who is someone in the GOP we *can* trust to keep us out of wars?
>>531162725RUN AWAY FUCKING YANK COWARDS, RUN AWAY
>>531175316>amerimutt continues spews ignorant delusional psychobabble>Is pol just retarded shitskins now?Nope, just you.
>burn down the american empire>for israel
>>531162725So this is how an empire ends
>>531173815Every single one of those retards could be killed and it wouldn't make any headlines because they're considered "contractors" and not soldiers :^)
>>531172140Bro you’re just using as much anti American lingo as possible. We get it you don’t agree with putting an end to a 50 year old Islamic dictatorship that constantly threatens world trade and world order. We get it you can name military conflicts the us has been bogged down in maintaining world hegemony, we get it “muh imperialism” we truly don’t care, it’s a game you can’t control so you insist we don’t play it because your a faggot. Go cry about it on Reddit for fucks sake
>>531162886>peace through war>winning by losingThe mental gymnastics and cope are reaching occult levels of insanity.
>>531162725Hostage Crisis 2.0 when?
>>531163684Not staff, it’s “MASS EVACUATIONS”!!!
>>531162725>muttmerica when their 1 trick pony (mass bomb dropping) doesnt workOH NONONONON HAHAHAHAHAAHHAH
>>531162886Fascinating MIGA cope. I wonder what bizarre concoction you will cook up next time
>>531177171So these are the mass deportations he kept talking about...
>>531177041>we get itPretty sure you don't, nigger. "Let's just, like, nuke them all" in a war without even a clear casus belli will make us international pariahs overnight. What we've already done to erode US hegemony in MENA will look like a mustard stain compared to the absolute river of shit to come.>t-they're threatening world trade and WORLD ORDER!You think anyone's going to give a shit after we both CANNOT DEFEND ALLY TERRITORY and CANNOT CLEAR THE MAJOR SHIPPING LANE REQUIRED FOR THEIR ONE MAJOR EXPORT? If the people we're trying to topple can cut us and everyone associated with us off at the knees, Iran isn't the liability, WE ARE, YOU TITANIC NIGGER.
>>531177286Your argument is “I heard online their evacuating a embassy in the region after Iran has been pummeled for days” “we are so winning ishalallalasl”
>>531175316>tf>tp>that belligerent tone>that spacing
>>531177041>We get it you can name military conflicts the us has been bogged down in maintaining world hegemonyYes! I know history! You incredible dribble-mouthed retard! That whole bit about "those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it" means you should know the prior conflicts to avoid it, not "let's do it harder but with all the cheat modes active, MAGA strong."
>>531177411Iran is done. We can shut down their economy in a second. Why would we put anyone in harm’s way? It is a blockade.
>>531162886omg trust the plan two more weeks and the coming storm will arrive. Cant stump the trump he just 4d chess moved the world by losing to win. Libs wrecked, dems BTFO'd. We won tranny WWG1WGA
>>531162725Green Zone turned into Ukraine.Have a fun, burgerbros!
>>531177511>We can shut down their economy in a second.You mean their major oil economy that just shuddered after Israel struck their major oil field? That economy? That's the one you want to wreck "in a second" and have no blowback for, you fantastic cunt?
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>>531177411Again it’s more moralizing about a world order that doesn’t exist. You’re yelling at Americans for not playing peaceful with nations that have subverted the notions for decades and acting like a blind nigger to do it. You can moralize on Reddit again, imperialism is the age it’s not just America doing it retard, your just mad your little bro our country can’t act out and not get hit back anymore!
>>531177352What possible advantage does Iran get attacking the green zone base? They have a precious few missiles and a dwindling number of drones. Casualties are their only hope and we are just removing targets. We are dropping bombs non-stop while Iran’s economy is at zero. Their military is defecting and the leadership is dying daily. I am sure it makes a nice story for the defeatist and the queer-left but it means next to nothing.
DIE FOR JEFFREY MUTTS!!!
>>531177590Yes, that economy — their only one. They are done.
>>531177711Lmao the Iran running out meme is amazing
>>531177472The notion this could be another Afghanistan or Vietnam becomes evidentially retarded when you look at the worlds reactions to oil shortages already you stupid nigger, the world will crash on Iran to fuel their sheepish populations before they join your cry’s of imperialism
>>531177685>Again it’s more moralizing about a world order that doesn’t exist.You fantastic nigger, YOU'RE the one who complained about Iran "upsetting the world order.">>531177041> a 50 year old Islamic dictatorship that constantly threatens world trade and world orderAnd THEN getting high-handed about "yelling at other Americans for not playing peaceful with nations that have subverted the notions for decades." Which is it, you big black greasy cunt?>you're just mad your little bro OUR COUNTRY can't act out and not get hit any moreThis is so autistic I can't actually tell if you mean Iran or America. Which is hilarious, considering I'm underscoring America can't act like a titanic prick without terrible consequences any more. We can't even wring in ostensible allies to reopen the Strait, which we need to before Japan or Australia run out of fuel. Really wonderful caretakers of that "world order" you're complaining about but also underpinning America as steward.
>>531177685You have been subverting that order for decades with illegal attacks on Iraq, your botched occupation of Afghanistan, you subverted the UNSC with the unauthorised expansion of strikes on Libya, in combination with your support of colour revolutions across the Middle East, Central Asia and Eastern Europe which have destabilised the entire world and destroyed Europe economically and socially with sanctions and massive refugee waves, topped off with the betrayal of tariffs. Fuck off with your holier than thou bullshit.
>>531177856>the world will crash on Iran to fuel their sheepish populations before they join your cry’s of imperialism"Cries" of imperialism, and I haven't said one fucking word about it. I'm saying what hegemony exists in MENA is dead. We sold out allies who were actively getting drone-stricken in favor of moving emplacements to Israel. We have no air defense for them, and our bases are giant fucking targets and an invitation for Iran to strike at their major cities. We are now a liability.More importantly, you'll notice every major country, even one with direct stakes in reopening oil coming out of the Strait, aren't doing jack shit. Because they don't want to lose men in a war they didn't fucking start. Amazing, right? It's almost like we did this before even pretending at a Coalition of the Willing this time. Which I think you'd have worked out had you considered Afghanistan as a prior example. "Evidently retarded," I guess.
>>531162725THIS IS NOT FAIR. Trump won this fucking war. Iran is completely destroyed there is nothing left. They have to stop now!!
>>531170262Think of the difference in difficulty of firing a gun vs. defending against getting shot. It's a very one sided affair where the best the defender can do is not get hit.It's the same problem with drone warfare. It's orders of magnitude more easier and cheaper to launch drones than it is to defend against them.Since they're on the other side of the planet they have to home field advantage and can launch way more drones and have more hidey holes to not get hit.>but 2 trillionoh right, the military industrial complex is built to be inefficient as possible and I mean that. politicians lobby to have one tiny piece of an F-35 built in their state so they can charge millions for a literal screw. You may have heard anons discussing how our economy works with the petrodollar and printing, yes? How we can steal value out of economies through being the world reserve currency. Well we spread that value we stole with our printed dollars in our own economy through wildly inefficient government programs like military spending or gibs. It's also why government agents turn a blind eye to rampant fraud like with the Minnesota daycare scam. Our economy is a sham and the numbers are arbitrary. Don't ever let anybody tell you this is capitalism, it's all fake planned markets with fake money and jewish pyramid schemes.
>>531177898Iran upsets the only real world order there is, world trade, they don’t get their way and they make trade worse for western nations by attacking our shipments through proxy terror organizations. This has been known for decades at this point. Any other ideas about world order or imperialism are just moralizations from idiots like you who have no real power so you cry on the internet. You hate America because you can’t amount to anything within it. America isn’t the big bad guy you like to paint it out to be it’s created way for most of the modern prosperity you see, Iran wouldn’t have the power it has now to disrupte global energy markets without American influence, the Chinese wouldn’t be half of what they are without America. Stop buying into the self hate dude
>>531175316>I fail to understand how completely destroying Iran is bad for America's image.It's evil and nobody will trust us if we kill people without a legitimate reason for doing so. Also, only Israel benefits from killing Iran.I'm not dying for the Jews.
>>531178204But they trust the Iranians for oppressing a massive amount of their population and constantly attacking or holding important trade routes hostage and hurting the whole world because they don’t agree with their crazy religious extremist views about the Jews
>>531162725Can't wait to see all the kino webms of zogbots getting killed in the most gruesome ways.
>>531178281They’ll be like 4 good ones, most the zogbots will die from mechanical accidents and logistic issues. Death count will be 4000 zogs 400,000 Iranian civilians, 40,000 Iranian combatants, it’s always the same
>>531175316Amerifat desperately wants to die for Israel and doesn't understand what a global market is even though the GOP has been screaming about this since Reagan, now magically "right wing" Amerifats are spouting communist lines about fixed pricing and think natural resources will be magically exempt. He's also completely unaware the entire manufacturing hub of the world is in China, and that oil is required to do anything. He wrote this on a phone that was made in China.The stupidity of the american goy is limitless.
>>531178169Exactly this, Judeo-christian values built the modern world, without the influence and intelligence of those great minds nothing of worth would have ever been done.
>>531163745THE CHUTZAPAH OF THESE GOYIM
>>531178169>uh uh uh I didn't mean WORLD ORDER when I said "trade and world order" I just meant tradeThat's called pilpul here. Don't do that.>any other IDEAS about world order are moralizations from idiots like youAn idiot "like me" who didn't so much as breathe "world order" until you mentioned it, and now shrink back like you touched a hot stove?>no real power, cry on internet, you think America's just a big badI am explaining to you in terms so plain a child would understand the collection of choices we've made in this war are catastrophically bad and erode trust in the bilateral, concrete treaties we've made with allies, it's obvious on its face. It's not an appeal to some exterior, ethereal sense of morality, we've basically guaranteed everyone who supported us is both UNABLE TO FEND OFF MISSILES AND DRONES and ACTIVELY TARGETED while THEIR PRIMARY INDUSTRIES ARE AT RISK due to A WAR WE STARTED UNILATERALLY AND LARGELY WITHOUT NOTICE TO THEM.>it's created way for most of the modern proserity you seeAre you trying to say "US hegemony enabled so much wealth"? That's reason enough to let us fuck them sideways now? You sure that's going to work, buddy?>uhhh Nixon went to ChinaNon sequitur. It doesn't stop us from looking impossibly retarded here.
>>531178365Watch out, fortress America is going to CRUSH YOU! WWG1WGA!
>>531178365The common European seethes as he freezes through the winter and the Muslim man beds his daughter (7yrs)
LMAO OH VEY HOW DARE YOU EVACUATE
>>531170262the drones are made of wood so they absorb and confuse radar.They are doing systematic attacks where drones and missiles attack in unison from different directions/vectors and they peel away at the defence systems with drones hitting radars and defence systems so missiles can get through.The missiles are super advanced and change direction mid air which makes it harder to intercept (most missiles in the world travel in an easily readable arc)honestly the whole thing doesnt make sense to me because what was USA/Israel expecting with the war? Did they actually think Iranians would rise up if their leader got killed? Did their intelligence say that or was it just some neocon true believer type thing? And did USA really not have intel on their drone/missile capabilities? is this actually a surprise? They have all this top secret intel on nukes but they dont know about hypersonics, or they just didnt believe reports?This seems too wild to me and im too schizo so now im thinking its all theatre, its too stupid to be real.
>>531178440Now your gonna go on the “he’s a Jewish shill because he showed more capability of critical thinking than me and he doesn’t buy into the idea that the Jews own Americans entirely” it’s true dude the whole beef Iran has with the Jews is they are the unholy infidel presiding in their holy lands and Iran truly believes as a Shia nation that they should inherit the world and anyone who doesn’t agree with them deserves a holy death, your inability to understand that shows a lack of education on your part not mine
>>531178262Hating the Jews is not extremist. It's normal. Jews hate you. No Iranian ever called me a goy. No Iranian is in the Epstein Files. Trump is in the Epstein files.I also don't care that Iranians are "oppressing" women. I did not vote for feminism, and fighting for feminism is gay. Any American solider who dies for feminism in Iran is automatically a faggot. Dying for Israel is gay.
>>531178398He's not going to get it, bro.
>>531178440World order is world trade I said my peace I stand on that statement I’m not shrinking back from anything your just retarded
>>531163192>Launch sites>Some madlad in a shed nearby
>>531178646Agreed I hate the Jews but for different reasons, I also hate the Iranians. I can have both because I’m superior to both
>>531178621But muh gays and women in iran goy we need be drafted for this war!!!! now!!!!!
>>531178656>I-I-I said my peaceNope, you got caught out.>>531177041#> a 50 year old Islamic dictatorship that constantly threatens world trade and world orderYou wouldn't bother making a distinction if you thought "world trade" covered it. Then you tried to paint me as appealing, shrivening to a concept I never so much as mentioned. The same concept you now try to jettison. I'm sorry, friend, it's dishonest on its face.
>>531178744What’s your definition of world order than retarded, good luck not quoting European or American ideals in your response!
>>531178621>if I just say something, then didn't say something, then latch on to the fact the pilpul was called out, I'll just crown myself debate captain and master debater>tangent about Jews and Iran when that's not been any subject of discussionYeah, buddy, you'd know from education.
>>531171919those fags didn't do shit to cut "right wing" bloat, just supposed "DEI" to OWN DA LIBS, and it still didn't do a damn thing for the deficit
>>531170968It's pretty obvious by now that your government agencies waste insane amount of money.
>>531178829So your definition of world order is whatever makes you feel good for the day gotcha, I sense your not a very serious or successful person, I’ve wasted my time trying to have a genuine conversation with you!
>>531175316>am i retarded burger?>no, everyone else is to blame
>>531178930>splitting posts, responding as though one was really a response to anotherNow this is podracing-tier disingenuous. Cute.>>531178785Why would I bother defining the term you tried painting me as slave to>>531177685>Again it’s more moralizing about a world order that doesn’t existthen suddenly ran away shrieking from? Do I need to soothe all your autisms?
>>531178986Your just dancing around more, try getting laid and getting off the internet, I’m balling on this gay ass thread,
>>531164640Newsflash retard, the israelis have already been active in that departmebt for the last few decadesNow that shits going hot on the homefront you act suprizedYoure fucking retarded
>>531179024>y-you're just dancing! I am the master debater!Nope.>I'm bailing on this gay ass threadVery based and not at all faggotpilled.
>>531179063“Muh world order means don’t bomb the brownies” very based surely have you tried not letting the “brownies” sleep with your wife, oh wait you don’t talk to women
>>531179103>get upset I refuse to define a term I never used or wanted to harken to>just pretend I did and it hinges on brown people and brown dicks specificallyPicrel.
>>531178598>honestly the whole thing doesnt make sense to me because what was USA/Israel expecting with the war? Did they actually think Iranians would rise up if their leader got killed? Did their intelligence say that or was it just some neocon true believer type thing? And did USA really not have intel on their drone/missile capabilities? is this actually a surprise? They have all this top secret intel on nukes but they dont know about hypersonics, or they just didnt believe reports?>This seems too wild to me and im too schizo so now im thinking its all theatre, its too stupid to be real.USA got cocky after Venezuela and just followed Israel's orders/lead
>>531179187Brownies are getting bombed, I’m happy, shit retards like you got me ready to die for Israel at this point
>>531162725Pussies. We used to get rocketed and mortared daily there in 2006.
>>531179052I'm not much of a "muh based Mossad" supporter these days, but they've had in-country experience since at least the Revolution. The question has never been whether they have experience, but whether their goals align with America's. The laundry list of "leadership" they wanted liquidated ALSO conveniently included any remaining moderates or liberals who might not escalate this into a 9-way conflict. Let's just call that convenient.
>>531179248Admittedly, this is now with basically fucking no radar support, few interdiction batteries, against swarms of drones that fuck up the whole process.
>>531164644Neocons are literally jewish former-democrats who reached the conclusion that republicans would enact their Jewish agenda more thoroughly than democrats would
>>531162725Cap ThisPeter Hegseth is fired
>>531179232So we've gone from>Iran upsets the WORLD ORDER which is also a faggy concept, I will not explain furtherto>they're killing browns so it's fineDid you portal in from 2003 covered in Cheeto dust and lad mags?
>>531179330You have anything to base this on, say?
>>531162725ground invasion of kharg island and coat of iran is coming i bet it will be next friday or today
>>531163838>this picture confuses and enrages the niggerfolk and thirdies
>>531179190Pretty much this. "Your mission, faithfully executed" (paraphrase, I'm not looking it up at 3 AM)
>>531179337>Spends 5 posts cheering out over the definition of world order and doesn’t accept it when it’s blatantly given to him>expects any form of honest conversation around his incessant moralization and terrible miscalculation of American power from pop anti American social influencers 7 point war dude seriously do you really think the entirety of the Middle East is that anti American?
>>531179302They used to have a perimeter with embedded Warlock signal jammers to block cell phone-triggered IEDs, guess they took them offline when Haji quit trying to blow up their government convoys.
>>531170639I'm old enough to get this
>>531179346Yes
>>531179439>cheering outIs that supposed to mean something?>b-blatantly given to himNo, you just pulled a little soft-shoe about how "world order" really meant trade, which we're also fucking up by STILL not reopening the Strait. So if anything we're demonstrably not stewards of either model you've proposed.Also I'm just very blatantly making fun of you for trying this shit.>h-honest conversationThis is 4chan. First day?>MORALIZATIONExpecting America to actually pull through for allies it has treaties with is not, I would think, particularly airy.>FROM POP ANTI AMERICAN SOCIAL INFLUENCERSProve I have any SNS app whatsoever. Go on.>YOU THINK THE ENTIRETY OF THE MIDDLE EAST IS THAT ANTI-AMERICAN?Red herring question. It's not about being anti-American as being proven we will fuck up and then abandon you in favor of Israel. It's not that hard.
>>531179588Would you rather let the strait be held hostage for another 40 years or deal with the person holding it hostage in a brief period and portray that this is not acceptable to the actual forces of power within the world. You want geopolitics to be dealt with like the way your parents dealt with their snotty child, giving it whatever it wants and telling them they’re so special while they hurt everyone else around them. Your a sad dishonest person and you know it, my life’s great, I can tell I make you mad
>>531179444If I understand you correctly, this isn't reliant on cell phone signals. However, we did lose most of the key radar bases in the region, so response times are terrible. Videos emerged about a week ago of some base "in Iraq" with personnel attempting to shoot down Shaheds with machine guns. They had run out of the automated missile interdictions.
I can't corroborate this news so far. Videos, announcements photos on this?
>>531179685>I make you madNot really, but this writing's giving me a fucking stroke.>deal with the personthe nation-state>holding it hostage in a brief period3 weeks, and still fucking pool's closed >and portray that this is not acceptablestill not fucking open, you're just not registering this somehow - it doesn't matter if it's "not acceptable" if we can't reopen it>to the actual forces of power within the world.The 'actual' forces of power? You mean we can just call up Iran's manager and make them open it? Or you mean some other global superpower who can actually solve the problem and stop them from ruining another 27% of the LNG market, or Israel from bombing another major oil field and taking, oh, 15% offline again.Just curious. If you really think there's no more noble, tremulous "world order" beyond the simple exchange of trade, a bounteous river of market forces ... you really think anyone's going to take America seriously if it can't open a Strait?>YOU want geopolitics to be dealt with like the way your parents delt with their snotty childYou're the one who seems to evidently want Iran shown to be "unacceptable" to ACTUAL forces of power, somehow higher and different from America who SHOULD be opening the strait. As the military super-power. So not an actual power, but a power that should be a power.>My life's greatYou're imagining I'm miserable when this is the funniest fucking thing I've read all week.
>>531179685>giving it whatever it wants and telling them they’re so special while they hurt everyone else around themYou really want to bring Israel into this?
>>531177711...at last estimate they have 80-100,000 shahed drones and produce 400 a day. With the handful they've deployed, our strongest military assets have had constant "accidents" resulting in loss of inventory, casualties, and/or requiring substantial repairs. China and Russia can supply them with fpv drones, indefinitely. I've been trolled.
>>531163705Meanwhile south Iraq who aren't shia are eating McDonald's and organising monster truck and WWE throwdowns, is that right?
>>531180099Blinding radar throughout the region has paid some crazy dividends. Reportedly, Israel often now has ZERO advance warning of strikes. Can't imagine it's much better for other bases.
>>531180099can't protect any of the fortified bases build over 10 years across the regionwants to build a forward base on irans territoryI think the israel war on iran will potentially kill 1 billion people in famine induced genocide150 times the holocaust
>>531175316>destroying Iran.israel is the FUCKIN PROBLEM NOT IRAN YOU STUPID CUNT
>>531180216>150 times the holocaustThere was no holocaust, there was a Holodomor
>>531180133This is dumb
>>531180216That’s retarded>we don’t have fertilizer so people are dead meatI’m sure humans have reserves and means to persevere. I can’t speak for the more charcoal looking hominids, but I’m sure they took precautions also — or not
>>531171820And you wonder why people say the heart of American empire is pure evil. America has strayed so far from its founding principles it's absurd.
>>531171820Boomer or outloud retard?>erase Persian history You will NEVER be white And yes let muzzies and jews kill each other if they wish. Not my problem
>>531180459this whole war is dumb
