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So are people who don't believe in objective truth just insane or retarded? Not one compelling case has ever been made nor can it even be made because it's inherently paradoxical.
Can these people even be considered human? Serious question, pic unrelated
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so do the skeletons grow cocks nad rape her?
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>>531172160
No... They get a boner Derrick.

A BONER
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>>531172126
What is "truth"?
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>>531172126
how about just stating your "truth" instead of vagueposting
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>>531172758
"your truth" is just an opinion, cmon brazil
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>>531172126
The issue about truth is that it is ever changing. Even science who seeks to understand how the world works changes with new discoveries and the truth is changed or slightly altered.
In the end truth and lies are momentary and mother nature doesn't care if you put your hand in the cookie jar or not.
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>>531172126
Truth is fluid, like everything else
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>>531173311
>>531173362
understanding of truth changes, the truth does not change.
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>>531173416
both civilizations and mountains rise and fall and change with time. truth is not immutable
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>>531173416
What's the difference? The truth can only be perceived. If the people who perceived the prior truth are gone, is the truth still there? It's just a concept, not an object. Truth changes whether you like it or not. History thought Gustav Vasa was a benevolent king until way later when it turned out he was a huge bitch (given most of his family was killed by the danes). Truth changed, not the understanding.
If you think truth doesn't change, I guess more power to you, but I also think it's a fallacy because you imply my truth isn't the truth.
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>>531172252
his daddy made him trans.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jhHIOLgGR5c
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>>531173416
answer, you coward

>>531172409
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>>531173600
>things stop existing when I look away
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>>531173788
That's not what I said.
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>>531172252
I mean he's right that reality is a projected hologram of consciousness itself and us no more real than World of Warcraft, but it requires years of depression and mental self torture to realize that so I doubt that's what he means.
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What you call "truths" are simply interpretations filtered through the biases and perspective of the observer. Concept of truth by itself has no meaning without an observer.
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>>531172126
They're just retarded I think, it's like saying the fridge in your kitchen doesn't exist when you can't see it. Even if you turned off the power in your house and it wasn't sucking up electricity, it'd still exist.
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>>531174020
Not true
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>>531173767
a property or statement that is in objective accordance with reality
>>531173879
That is exactly what you said. Truths exist outside of any observant.
>History thought Gustav Vasa
Even in this example you admit that there is a truth. Thinking X is the truth doesn't make X the truth. People thought the world was flat, that it wasn't true then, it's not true now.
This is such a dumb fucking argument
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>>531174042
if robbers come in and steal your refrigerator it is no longer "the fridge in your kitchen". let's say you call the police and you report the incident and as luck would have it a few weeks later they find it. but it's not the same. its got some more dents and scrapes. and now it's got some weird smell
or forget that whole story and lets just say the condenser takes a shit and it no longer cools. it's the same fridge, but it's obviously different because it can't operate as a fridge
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>>531173753
To be fair that is normal affection, though maybe a tad effeminate
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>>531174042
>it's like saying the fridge in your kitchen doesn't exist when you can't see it
But that's something you can observe and prove to be true. A fact. Truth on the other hand depends from person to person.
I think the issue here is that people equates fact with truth when they are only related but not the same.
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>>531174193
>This is such a dumb fucking argument
Because you don't understand the concept of truth to begin with and think of it as observable fact.
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>>531174288
>the concept of truth is unrelated to facts
this is mental masturbation and is in no way connected to anything real
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>>531174288
Well that's it I guess. You think things stop existing when no one is observing them. You think we can bend the spoon while living in a reality where you can't bend the spoon and never will be able to bend he spoon.
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>>531172126
what is this booba game
and yes, people are retarded
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>>531174288
Could you tell me truth is please? Be as brief as you please.
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>>531174398
I don't think it is a game. Just an animation.
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>>531174243
The fridge still exists. Why dobyou argue with others if you're just gonna beat yourself in your own post?
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>>531174441
Truth is in general about personal experience and meaning by one or fewer people, rather than observable and verifiable facts by several people.
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>>531174498
the fridge is obviously different, and in one of the cases I mention will no longer operate as a refrigerator, you retarded clown
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>>531174398
If you're like >>531174446 , it's just an animation that's the truth, that is until you read this following statement: Shin Sei Den is the name of the game
now that's the ""truth"""

point being the it was always Shin Sei Den, you were just WRONG about what you THOUGHT was TRUE. IDIOT
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>>531174604
>point being the it was always Shin Sei Den, you were just WRONG about what you THOUGHT was TRUE. IDIOT
Hence observable fact.
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>>531174398
Shinseiden by Fullflap
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>>531174660
>observable fact.
no just fact
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>>531174734
Because I can observe it now.
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>>531174779
So are all postmodernists solipsists?
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>>531174260
There is people's interpretation of the truth, and 'The Truth', it is fact, reality.

Like a video recording showing a situation between two people they might interpret that differently to each other, but the video shows what actually happened.
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>>531174530
Yea, thats not true
>>531174571
>the fridge is different
>the fridge is the same
Gahahahahaha pseudos gahahahahahahahahahahahahahgagagagagahahahahahahaha
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>>531174903
Maybe.
>>531174967
>Yea, thats not true
Now you're getting it.
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>>531174983
are you aware that you are a solipsist?
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>>531174903
They're just fucking with you. They're getting things mixed up and I can't recall what the phenomenon theyre mistaking
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>>531174983
You blew my mind. Any other cool tricks?
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>>531175054
No, because I have beliefs that contradicts it.
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>>531175138
Is it true that you are using the Internet to post? Is it true that you are not using the Internet to post?
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>>531175058
Yeah, and now that I'm thinking about it "I think therefore I am" is an objective truth claim. He's just insane



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