Since the multi-polar world is truly arising, this would be a perfect opportunity for Europe to unify further and become a proper world power. However, it's all run by spineless liberals who cannot imagine anything else than American hegenomy
well not a perfect opportunity, that would be 10 years ago. now it's getting too late
>>531178302>>531178393> Polish hindsightSad thing is the entire shitshow can be boiled down to an initiative >10 years ago when conservatives tried to change the EU rules on the conditions for someone to receive social handouts.Problem was that gvt pity money in Germany is equal to median income in most of Eastern Europe. This lead to mass migration of poor who ended up destroying the public budget and at the end the economy. Since EU foreigners are also allowed to vote, they obviosly voted for left/green politicians & parties. The initiative was aimed at changing the rules for social handouts that you could only receive the amount of money your country of origin would pay.The initiative was blocked by - big surprise - the Polish Piss Party government.Blocking the initative cemented the previous rule and subsequently lead to ever higher taxes, eroding public security, less competent gvts, sweeping leftwing policies and at the end the migration crisis. With the rule only to pay as much as the country of origin, not a single lazy/extremist migrant would be in Europe. Equally, far less left/green moron politicians would be in power right now with more competent conservative politicians doing a better job in keeping EU-rope together.The whole mess is 80% Polish greed made.Danke, Polen!
Its already happening, thanks trump
>>531178302If Europe unified, the World Cup would be pretty boring.
>>531178302Multipolar order might be happening, but in every possible scenario you go back to Russia. It is not negotiable
>>531178843Nobody forced you to accept hordes of niggers, you have no one to blame but yourselves for the retarded result of your retarded policies. Everyone here warned you about it explicitly but you knew better. You shat on your own plate, now eat it. Bonapetit.
>>531179305>in every possible scenario you go back to RussiaNo, that only happens in fringe scenarios. They're western; poor and lagging behind, but part of the western world regardless. Us on the other hand... we've always been closer to either Russia or Turkey than Europe, so rip in peace.
>>531178302It doesn't help that most of the "right wing" parties are thirsty for russian cock.
>>531178393Try 30 years
>>531178302It's not the liberals that won't unify for common good, it's the nationalists.
>>531179305Poland would unironically sooner cease to exist than kneel before russia. Unlike an average russian citizen in regards to his government, not everyone is a whore that bends over to get fucked just to persist.
>>531179246European federation does not mean one football team. Austria and Hungary both had separate teams even when they were a dual monarrchy
>>531178843You want union but different rules for this for that. For govt money, for truck companies, for waste managment in companies, privacy policy, taxes... any shit in any country is different in europesome eu companies didn't trade with customers from other eu countries because of this mess. And same companies trade succesfully outside UE. So add new 1488 bullshit bureaucracy rules to fix everything.
>>531178843It's not Poland's fault that there are over 800k Ukrainians legally employed in Poland, while there are similarily 800k Ukrainians taking unemployment gibs in Germany. German system creates parasites. It was developed for different times and is unsustainable, like megafauna during ice age.I bet you're ossi. These post-commie Russian rapebabies are the worst and tend to blame Poland for everything.
>>531179674Ah I thought you wanted to fix Europe. You think in a white Europe we would play niggerball and it would be as mediatised as today.You just want the same system without niggers, very stupid.
Yeah. Mustache Man tried to unite Europe a few decades ago. But you fuckers didn't want to speak German. Now Western Europe speaks sandniggerish.
>>531180060Mustache Man was showcase of how NOT to unite Europe.
>>531178302we are under the boot of bureaucrats, we should think about that (we cant because normies are goycattle) before worrying about "world power"
>>531178302More like spineless cuckservatives who would scream 4th Reich the second such proposal was on the table
>>531178302Thats the sad part. Mertz is incredibly weak willed. Macron gets it but hes way to unpopular at home. Everyone else has no real leaders. Poland, Hungary, Slovakia keep electing weird pseudo authoritarian retards. Croatia is basically the same government since the start of Croatia. Romania and Bulgaria are too corrupt. Scandis and Benelux are massive inflighting between tons of small parties. Ironically Meloni in Italy seem the strongest one but it's Italy and shes a woman can't take her seriously. We really need some charismatic, but brutal faggot to actually get shit done. Someone like Obama or Charles de Gaulle whos soft spoken, diplomatic, but behind the scenes hes doesn't fuck around. Same with Ursula, while people meme that shes secretly some dark lord of the Sith shes too weak and spineless.
>>531179246You mean like who Whales, Scotland, England have their own teams while being the UK?
>>531178302>However, it's all run by spineless German who cannot imagine anything else than American hegenomyFTFY
>>531178393It was impossible before now because pelple still believed in their nation states. Now that 50% of the young in most eu countries are foreigners, the identity of the nation state is going to die and it will be possible to turn them into provinces of a union.
>>531179531I miss saturday nights fever in Cluj-Napoca. Damn, you're correct.>>531179662It is a blessing and a curse at the same time. >>531179787>without niggersLike... what is wrong with that?
>>531180172>that same pic posted over the 6th gorillionth time with no reliable info on itNow show pics of the brutal Bromberg massacre against ethnic Germans.>b-but we dindu nuffin!!!1!11!
>>531180628It would say we're getting actually father away. There been very strong reverse in this terms among the young people. Millennials are the ones that grew up in a hegemonic global culture lead by the US. Everyone watch the same movies, tv shows, listened to the same music, there was a real globo homo culture building up with English as it's primary language. And as soon as the wokeies infested it it all came crashing down. I have seen a gigantic shift in culture in Europe towards Asia. Stores are full of anime shit I would have given my life for 25 years ago. I was the early weeb generation now everyone seem to play Genshin Impact and watch Korean/Japanese movies and dramas on Netflix while everyone seem to be avoiding US based content. There has also been a resurgence in local European content. I think Gen A will grow up more right wing and nationalist then Millennials or Gen Z.
>>531178302What language would you choose to be the Lingua Franca?
>>531180767>Bromberg massacreYou mean fighting off fifth column in Bydgoszcz.
>>531181153Malaria.
>>531181153Polish, security by obscurity.
>>531181153Probably official rules similar to those in Switzerland. De facto everyone speaks English.
>>531178302I really don't know if i would like it or not.On one side europe would become one of the big players on the world stage. On the other side with all the bullshit coming out of brussel already, they will turn it into africa 2.0 shithole.I would support a unified europe when we could get a middle-right government. Liberal and freedom loving on the inside, but absolute right on foreign politics.
>>531180594>However, it's all run by spineless German who cannot imagine anything else than American hegenomySo much this. Why do Macron do not promote European phones and OS, why should Europeans read the news from american medias?
>>531178302i see on this map true baltic land for baltic bvlls
>>531179728Her grandfather was from Poland.
>>531181676I've talked to Euros about this in the past, including Poles and they all sperg out when I mention that English is the most obvious choice for a European Lingua Franca, and that whilst you can preserve your native languages, in order for it to be effective at uniting and synchronizing the entire continent it will necessarily have to result in native languages becoming something akin to what Irish has become in Ireland.
>>531182253Spanish makes most sense. This way, our dear leaders can unite us with South America and fully turn us into monkeys.You will be Speaking spanish by the end of this century, not English too.
>>531182014People on both sides of border are mixed - just like people on any side of any border in Europe. If not for dozens of languages, entire continent would be considered relatively homogeneous (point of comparison being China or India).
>>531180811>I have seen a gigantic shift in culture in Europe towards Asia.That's because American brainrot "culture" is relatively new. France for instance has been fascinated with Japanese culture since the XIXth century (Impressionist painters) and they have the biggest annual anime exposition in the West. That being said, replacing gangsta rap with anime isn't ideal, if you want an influential Europe then it should be a cultural powerhouse not a passive consoomer.
>>531178302Look at the crisises the EUcommissariat has created for itself and you want more of that?
>>531178302Neither America nor Russia would ever let that happen. WW3 incoming.
>>531179787What did you think? All of these fanatical pro-EU posters are literally liberal homosexuals, especially the Polish ones.
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>>531178302Sad, but true. America leaving NATO and abandoning the EU as allies might be the best thing that happens to the EU, and even, with time, heal its divission with the russians. After all, the enmity that exists today between the russians and Europe has mainly been fed and grown by the interests and intervention of the US into European politics.
>>531182660>That's because American brainrot "culture" is relatively new.Actually it's because of mongolisaton due to mass immigration. Most European countries are basically secular islamic nations.
>>531182988>After all, the enmity that exists today between the russians and Europe has mainly been fed and grown by the interests and intervention of the US into European politics.
>>531182253>they all sperg out when I mention that English is the most obvious choice for a European Lingua FrancaSame thing with Canadians in Montreal. Yet, they all speak English.>what Irish has become in Ireland.Won't happen. For that you'll need people speaking to their own children in language that isn't theirs. I've actually met Ukrainians in Poland doing that (so that their children is 100% Polish), but Ukrainian and Polish are similar enough to use same train of thought. With Slavic vs Germanic language you'll need to translate every thought in your head before opening your mouth to your own kid - which some people living in mixed families actually do, but they end up with soulless, autistic kids who are e.g. trooning out because were not teached of deeper thoughts.However Switzerland is pretty united and synchronized without forcing single, official language, so I see no reason why rest of Europe shouldn't work in similar fashion.
>>531183164Why aren't you at war with the french, or with us, then, if it's all about history? Why aren't the spaniards at war with the UK? Russia's entry into NATO was sabotaged by the US, not by Europeans. European powers were at each other's throats throughout all of fucking history. Now they're not. How did that happen?
>>531182988Nice fanfic.My country was a total shithole under Russian rule, only once we were free from their "friendship" were we able to begin growing.
>>531178302A united europe would only be a bloated bureaucracy and multi ethnic states are bound to fail, europeans have always succeeded in competition with eachother, we'd lose that competitive spirit that made each european country great
>>531183398>How did that happen?By mutual agreement to respect the established borders. Once border disputes are settled you can coexist peacefully. Russia, dreaming of restoring it's empire, is incapable of peaceful existence with it's neighbors. Not to mention it's paranoia about getting bombed by a defensive alliance.
>>531183697>only once we were free from their "friendship" were we able to begin growing.It's not as simple as you say. We should be growing much faster and much more, especially in energy sector.
>>531183914>We should be growing much faster and much more, especially in energy sector.True but irrelevant in regards to my statement.
>>531178843A German blaming a pole for stupid shit Germany went along with is pretty comical.
>>531183398>Russia's entry into NATO was sabotaged by the USIn early 2000s Putin asked if Russia could join NATO, but was told it would have to go through the same procedures as rest of countries, on which he declined - for good of everyone it seems.Russia isn't Europe. Russians themselves don't consider it Europe. Until there are at least 2 different Russian presidents in span of 10 years it shouldn't be considered anything other than a threat - like Golden Horde.
>>531183799>europeans have always succeeded in competition with This is not the XIX century anymore, Europe and its autistic historical rivalries don’t mean SHIT. No amount of petty rivalry with le Frenchies is going to save you from Chinks, Yanks and kikes squeezing you dry of capital and tech if you don’t wake up.
>>531183252Switzerland, Belgium and all the other multilingual countries aren't really united, because of their different use of language. It's not enough that people are able to speak the same language and communicate. Everyone has to think in the same language. We are similar sized population and land mass but this is such a big advantage for the US over Europe historically. You're all in your own little bubbles and aren't thinking the same as the each other, so collaboration is much more difficult. >For that you'll need people speaking to their own children in language that isn't theirs.This is literally what happened in the US with all types of Euro immigrants. Italians, Germans, Poles, Swedes you name it. It had to happen, and is a net benefit once you get it over and done with. There's a reason by God got people speaking different languages to divide people if you believe that either literally or as a wisdom story.
>>531183398>Why aren't you at war with the french, Because we have been neutered in this gay jewish union ruled by kikes just like USA.What you are seeing is a transition in Europe to pisslam regimes, enjoy.
>>531178302This scares and confuses the amerimutt ziogolem
>>531184775>Switzerland, Belgium and all the other multilingual countries aren't really united, because of their different use of language.They are united enough to create funtional states that takes care of people's interests. That's the goal of the state and this kind of unification is enough. Europeans don't need to become single nation - we are people united by similar interests and our common state should take care of these interests.State's officials doesn't need all to think in single language to communicate. They should actually think about what they're saying 100% of the time.>This is literally what happened in the US with all types of Euro immigrants. Italians, Germans, Poles, Swedes you name it.This is the main difference: we're not migrants in Europe. This is OUR place. Telling local people to start using foreign language, when vast majority speak local language, makes absolutely no sense.
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>>531185921>Telling local people to start using foreign language, when vast majority speak local language, makes absolutely no sense.Yep, this is why I the Euro block is doomed to fragmentation. During the time of the Roman empire you all spoke Latin and were unified.
>>531178302All it would take is establishing a single legal regime and a, and I can't believe I'm saying this, a federal government. Literally, just copy the US model and let the states do their own thing while tip toeing the fed line. I have no idea why they're dragging their feet like this, all these failing governments in the EU are getting annoying at this point.
Being bigger doesn't mean you're stronger. Nations outlive Empires for a reason.
>>531186186Germans are a USA puppet so they are stalling everything.
>>531178302>opportunity for Europe to unifyNo, thank you.We all have our own divergent interests and I want to be left alone.
>>531185262Based! German Russian friendship will make europe great again
>>531186448nice friendship you have there. 1941 was the peak of your friendly relationship?
>>531186022>Yep, this is why I the Euro block is doomed to fragmentation.If your only other choice is unification as single nation - literally Union style. I'm telling you Europe tried Union (literally European Union) with forcing people to start thinking same way and it backfired as fuck. There's another way of uniting different people, that seems to be much more successful and effective in European environment - that's confederation. Switzerland started as confederation (to this day it's literal name is Swiss Confederation) - different people united by similar interests.Europe is such Switzerland nowadays. However this single political being is called (even if it stays as European Union), it should start as conferedation. That's how European nationalists think nowadays - nobody's trully "Eurosceptic", especially after clusterfuck that was Brexit and especially when Greenland and Balts are similarly threatened from two different sides.
>>531180767Germans were anti-european imperialist. They lied about crimes against Germans just so they could have a casus belli against Poland. If those crimes had really occured by the end of the war, who gives a shit, Germans started a war that killed millions of white European. As bomber Harris said, you can't bomb others and except not to get bombed
>>531178302Before entering this thread i knew it would either be a swedish or a polish flag.Ofc you are pro EU, for you it meant infinite gibs. But guess what? Gibs days are OVER.
>>531186590> and then the butthurt pole started yapping about ww2 again, can you believe it?> I very much can, fren, xaxaxaxaa
>>531178302its always poles and other niggers desperate for unification because they're terrified of being genocided by all the people they fucked with.
>>531186755The EU guy should have a bigger nosehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Jewish_Parliament
>>531186273The US would have a much easier time dealing with the EU as a single entity. This makes little sense.
>>531186781>>531186448
>>531187022I doubt it, frogs hate mutts so such an EU is basically going to be a french led EU and independent of NATO and USA.
>>531178302aren't we unified enough you stupid toilet cleaner gayropean unions needs to fucking die
>>531185262What a beautiful sight. I hope it will happen one day. We just need to reform the union, and kick out all the Mutts kikes and replace our retarded feminist leaders
>>531187521>>531188054Bots are cutted from VPN as well?
>>531188730Wanting Russia in the union, is not the same as wanting Putin's Russia in the union, silly little polish femboy
>>531188800>Wanting Russia in the union, is not the same as wanting Putin's Russia in the unionSo what's your gold standard for European-friendly Russian leader that will transform Russian nation into Europeans, not wanting further conquest of European soil?There was never "good" Russia to build bright future together, memeflag. It was always shit.
>>531189064In 2050, russian president Mohhamed bin ibn Mohhamed will be a BIG friend of german prime minister, Mohmed Ahmed ibn Usrati
>>531185262>>531186448>>531188054t. Dmitri desperately switching VPNs to post his vatnik propaganda
