If they will never be able to directly attack the USA?
>>531182717How did the Taliban / NVA defeat America? By keeping the conflict going long enough to the point where most Americans at home resented the war and politicians found further conflict politically untenable.
>>531182717all they have to do is wait.Trump doesnt have the balls to invade.
>>531182717Iran could probably take Hawaii if they turn their transponders off
>>531182717If they completely annihilate Israel, they can ensure some measure of stability for the entire region, assuming they're able to resist future US incursions.
Imagine how glorious it would be if they started carpet bombing America instead of israel
They need to impose a cost that prevents them ever attacking again, they've already found their way around sanctions to the point where the US actually needs to remove them.However they need a convenient way of profiting from the ships stuck in the strait, they have to do something about the aerial bombardment and keep the Israelis contained so they don't have time for more assassinations.
>>531182915lol one bomb and they'd get annihilated let's be honest here. basically we should just conquer them entirely. kill all men and rape all the women so they have been replaced by Americans. it's the only way to "win" a war.
>>531182913so you're saying Iran can't win?
>>531182803I forgot the taliban defeated us and now run America. Lol shut the fuck up, shitskin.
>>531183054We turned tail in Afghanistan and gave them billions in munitions on the way out. There's no way to characterize what happened in Afghanistan other than as a humiliating defeat for America no matter what kind of revisionist cope you cling to.
>>531182717Survive until the war becomes too costly for the USA and for the world.Destroying the oil production in the region and crippling the word's economy is their dead man's trigger.
>>531182717a campaign of world wide terrorism and asymmetrical warfarehttps://youtu.be/2KCiKcLZRVYIRGC
>>531183113>kills millions>destroys their country>Biden tard fucked up withdrawal>DaT mEaNs DaY WoN!! You are retarded.
>>531183054Let me check:>Spends 20 years and 2 trillions to replace Taliban with... The Taliban?I see.
>>531182717By making the US retreat, usually via making it extremely unpleasant for them to keep going.
>>531183243>Got to kill millions of brown people>Taliban ain't gonna do shit ever again after thatI'm sorry, where did they 'defeat' us? Are the Taliban in control of the western half of America?
>>531183036No, of course not. No country in the world can militarily conquer the US on home soil. That's been true for well over a hundred years.
>>531183240You gave up and retreated. That's a Taliban win.
>>531183240Cope and seethe all you want, history will remember it as it happened. Do you consider Mark Antony's foray into Parthia a "victory" just because Rome still existed after the fact?
>>531182717By doing exactly what they're doing. Any scratch against the US gets amplified on social media as a major blow. They simply continue to use retards and sock puppet accts. on X, instagram, tiki tok, etc. to turn public sentiment against the war. It's working quite well, despite the fact that they have been militarily annihilated.
>>531182717They can't really win. They can possibly achieve various objectives by the entire economy.
>>531183352>How can Iran win this war?>If they completely annihilate Israel>so you're saying they can't win>no of course notESL?
iran is raking leafs while u never did shit
>>531183306I didn't say anything mutt. Just put the facts on the table and then you started to chimp out.Guess you guys really got your ass kicked and that makes you seethe lol.
>>531183517i have a feeling i know u from a certain other general
>>531182717Just keep the Strait closed for Dollar trade. Everyday people aren't buying oil with dollars the global demand for dollars shrinks. Shrinking demand leads to an increasing yield curve and higher costs for refinancing american debt.There are some ways the us administration can delay this but if the yields keep going up the us will suffer a financial apocalypse, much more damaging than any direct attack.
>>531183354Lol voluntarily ceasing operations after pummeling a country for 14 fuckinf years isn't the victory for that country you think, shitskin. Also, Biden being retarded and leaving a bunch of abit there was just some senile pedo being a senile pedo. Wow you got a few trinkets. Does that bring back your dead children and soldiers? Lol dead brown people was the real victory.
>>531183359Ph history will remember Afghanistan getting its shit pushed in for a decade then America getting tired of doing that and voluntarily leaving, all right.
>>531183359What? That comparison doesn't make any sense. You seem brown and quite stupid.
>>531183517>voluntarily ceasing operatoons and leaving on our own accord is getting our ass kickedI wonder if they come across the skeletons of dead forgotten taliban soldiers in the nooks and crannies of the mountains to this day lol
osama is deadal qaeda is no morevietnam and asia are more capitalist than America"losses"
ok yes if you goal is to exterminate every middle eastern and asian I guess we lost, but according to the metrics used by most rational people we won both warsthe goal of this war is to prevent iran from having nuclear weapons, don't get it twisted
>>531183596Whoever that anon is, it's not me, I recently got back to browsing /pol/>>531183713>>531183743>>531183782>>531183812Actual monkey noises and throwing feces around.
>>531182717>If they will never be able to directly attack the USA?happened many times before, here are the USA's post-WWII conflicts - Operation Valuable - LOSS- Korean War - Loss on expectations/Objectives re-written/Inconclusive- Merklin Battle - LOSS- 1st Taiwan Strait Crisis - LOSS- Vietnam War - LOSS- Permesta Rebellion - LOSS- Lebanon Crisis - WIN- 2nd Taiwan Strait Crisis - WIN- Tibetan Uprising - LOSS- Laotian Civil War - LOSS- Guatemalan Civil War - WIN- Bay of Pigs Invasion - LOSS- 1961 Berlin Crisis - LOSS/INCONCLUSIVE- Cuban Missile Crisis - Loss on Expected Result/STALEMATE- Operation Dragon Rouge - WIN- Dominican Civil War - WIN- Korean DMZ Conflict - WIN- Bolivian Ñancahuazú Guerrilla Campaign - WIN- Cambodian Civil War - LOSS- Contra War - LOSS/INCONCLUSIVE- Salvadoran Civil War - WIN- Operation Cyclone - WIN- Operation Eagle Claw - LOSS- Gulf of Sidra - WIN- Lebanon 1982-1984 - LOSS- Grenada Invasion - WIN- Operation Prairie Fire - WIN- Libya 1986 - LOSS- Tanker War - WIN- Operation Golden Pheasant - WIN- Tobruk - WIN - Invasion of Panama - WIN- Gulf War - WIN- 1st US Intervention in Somali Civil War - LOSS- Intervention in Bosnia and Herzegovina - WIN- Intervention in Haiti - WIN- 3rd Taiwan Strait Crisis - WIN- Monrovia - WIN- Operation Infinite Reach - LOSS- NATO Intervention In Kosovo - WIN-
>>531183943>I struggle reading comprehension and insult when I can't form an argumentWe know, favela monkey. You only understand arguments as ook ooks and throwing your shit around. Concession accepted.
>>531183782Retreating and leaving munitions behind to the enemy faction who took over the country is the textbook definition of losing a war
My point is that Iran will never be able to kill Tromp
>>531183870>I wonder if they come across the skeletons of dead forgotten taliban soldiers in the nooks and crannies of the mountains to this day lolWhat is there to search for in the mountains? You left tons of your equipment in plain sight with how quickly you escaped. They make parades from your equipment.>Total Value: The total value of U.S.-funded equipment left behind in Afghanistan and in Taliban possession is often quoted at over $7 billionWhat do you wager this counts as in burgerland, muttbro? Phyric victory?
>>531184127No it isn't. We voluntarily left. Got tired of killing that shade of brown. If anything, leaving that shit behind was the consequence of a senile pedo president fucking up the withdrawal.
>>531184346Were the thousands of dead children and women worth a few stupid humveee? Lol stupid browns think a shiny new military truck equals what, hundreds of thousands dead? This is shitskin loser muzzie mentality. Enjoy the truck, Achmed. Your kid's face got embedded into the side of it, but it's yours lol
>>531183870>break into someone house>Taking over the house is not as easy as you thought>muh tactical retreat while failing your objectiveGood thing for you we're cleaning up the shitshow that you retards left behind
>>531184569>break into house>kill everyone inside>loot valuables>smash it up for some fun>Leave house when I feel like it but drop a pocket watch on way outYeah, sure sounds like victory for the homeowner, all right. You are brown and retarded.
>>531182717you lost,Gulf Nigger
>>531185070We lost bigly, unironically
>>531182717Most Americans are rooting for Iran.They are the only ones trying to save the world from the Synagogue of Satan.I hope Trump is locked up soon.
>>531183440First language.Iran and the US have separate objectives. In war between the US and Iran, the best one can hope for is a stalemate. If the US were able to go gloves off, they could flatten Iran. Iran doesn't have the US capability to project power. Nobody does.What victory looks like to Iran is eliminating Zionism from the region and securing it against foreign threats. If they can do that and keep the US out, that will be a win condition for them. Domestic pressure and ongoing internal struggles can forth a US withdrawal, which secures the region for Iran. I call that the war being won.Be charitable to other readers; nobody in the world is speaking about the context of Iranian soldiers marching on the White House. Let's steelman each other and come up with decent conversation rather than the gutter trash that plagues this website.
>>531188006>forthforce*
>>531182717Recruiting extremist terrorists is a lot easier when Trump blows up school children. So, home grown terorists. Plentybof oportubityvto attakc america. He also killed the leaders entire family and Isreal blew up thier oil. They have nothing to lose. There are millions of them with the sympathy of millions more and all they have to do is blow up one tanker every 6 months Not to mention the amout of oil infradtrucyure already destoyed. Get ready for everything to cost more.Get ready for Rpeublicans to own this war.You won!
>>531182717By making Israel uninhabitable
>>531188006What about Iran's domestic issues? Their people were rioting a few months ago because of water shortages.
>>531188305They can get past that when two nuclear powers are bombing them daily.
>>531182717How did Vietnam and Afganistan and North Korea win... ?
>>531182717We go in fuck with their country and leave when we get bored and our enemies pretend to win the war. This is how they cope.
>>531188499Entrenchment. The US similarly 'held back' and couldn't topple the existing forces.Look, that guy was trying to trip me up by presenting what I was saying as not qualifying OP's silly line of "they will never be able to directly attack the USA". It's a foolish benchmark that doesn't serve anyone in the conversation.
>>531183743>voluntarily ceasing operationsThe literal definition of admitting defeat, yes.
>>531182717Raeto west big lra org
>>531182717All they have to do to win is to hang on and survive.
Thats a maaaaaaaaan
>>531191985I want that man to shove her tongue down my throat
>>531182717literally designed, built, and manufactured for BBC
>>531192090This part
>>531188305>Their people were rioting a few months ago because of water shortages.Their people weren't rioting, mossad agents were. And the protesting wasn't over water shortages, it was over the US fucking with their economy.Well, the US just dropped sanctions on Iranian oil so that'll fix the economy. War, what is good for? A lot, if you win.
>>531184767>loot valuablesWhat did you loot?
