Why are westoids unable to build anything close to this?
>>531188784>2026>Doesn't smoke cigarettesAre you bullied, mentally handicapped or both?>b-but it kills youAnd? Was life a contest about who lives the longest?>it's addicting!!!It's not, as long as you're not under-aged and you can smoke in moderation>it's....IT'S EXPENSIVE!!!Who forces you to buy a pack every day, fucking peat-gavel
>>531188784https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-cost_Uncrewed_Combat_Attack_System?wprov=sfla1
>>531188784American arms industry cares more about profit than actual war readiness. So gazillion dollar wunderwaffe get priority over cost efficient 35K dollar drones
>>531188784>Why are westoids unable to build anything close to this?Unironically, it's because they can do better for the same ammunition cost. America has already invested in the fleet of 60 million dollar stealth jets so if they want a target destroyed, they'll fling a $20,000 glide bomb at it that carries 20x the amount of explosives as Shahed. But also this >>531188971 because it doesn't hurt to diversify egg baskets.
>>531188784Westoids are able to do that. We copied their design.
>>531188971>shitty chink-like copy that costs twice as much and only 300 of them existLmao, fucking embarassing
>>531188784Because the westoid M-I complex exists to make money, not to win wars.
If you can make a shitty domestic car, you can make a Shahed. I'm not remotely surprised if Iran has 80k of these things. The US however can't even make a shitty domestic car without worrying about shareholders.
>>531188784Too expensive.
It's based on an ancient german design.
>>531188784Because we just bomb the shit out of Tehran instead. That's why our explosions are so much bigger and why they haven't seen the sun in weeks.
Unironically, one flew over my house in Florida.
>>531188784That's a $15 billion contract, and they'd be lucky to get a working prototype with a batch of ten drones.
>>531188784Every American company that could ever produce that product was outsourced to China decades ago. Our best bet now is to build an interceptor drone that can shoot them out of the sky and so is reusable and thus more cost-effective. It would have to look more like an x-wing than gifrelated thoughever
>>531189603>shitty chink-like copy that costs twice as much$35,000 is not twice as much, it is also remarkably cheap since the US can't pay thirdie wages to the people who assemble them.>and only 300 of them existThe US doesn't have an actual need for them as I stated up here >>531189297, glide bombs are waaay more effective at target destruction and just as cheap. Those Shahed copies would be more useful against an enemy like China that has a ton of infrastructure to hit. The Stealth fleet can focus on the important stuff while the drones can swarm the chaff.The best reason for the US to invest in this isn't combat operations but proof of concept and testing. They are so cheap and easy to build that stockpiling them in large numbers would be a waste. Think of it like artillery ammo, you only need to build enough of them to last until production ramps up.
>>531188784Manufacturing BOM for this drone available?
>>531188784Americans have one and it's actually cheaper.
Why are so many in here so retarded?It’s like asking why the US doesn’t manufacture IEDs: it’s a little device and why manufacture ones that achieve the same results but work 100x better.It’s all Iran can build. So it’s what they use. It’s like when India and China fight with sticks on the border - should every military start using sticks? No.
>>531188784American MIC is at the mirrored stage of late state Communist Russia. The money for military research and equipment are vacation/jerky funds for execs and connected individuals. To make up for this, the public is told that there is constantly a new “wunderwaffle” technology by based LockheedMartin and there’s no need to worry, USA#1. Naturally, normies are happy things “are being taken care of” and the schizo autist is just screeching because he’s incel. Now we are in a situation where the $500000 gorillion dollars given to MIC, yet there are only 4 interceptors lying around and it somehow costs 2 million after every subsidy and open stealing.
>>531190255>glide bombs are waaay more effective at target destruction and just as cheaphow are they just as cheap when they need to be launched by a larger aircraft that costs a lot of money, has high operating costs, requires a trained pilot, and requires significant support equipment to take off and land? meanwhile iran is doing pic related.
>small and cheapIt's been a while since I've seen such a rabidly anti-MIC proposal.
>>531190337This. Even if we come out of this conflict with some kind of tangible win like Tehran being smashed to bits... our reputation is gonna be absolutely wrecked. Turns out 20 years of fighting insurgents is irrelevant to modern warfare.
>>531188784>engine reverse-engineered from a German one.>drone copied largely from Dornier DAR (also German).GERMAN TRICKNOLOGY IS ZE STRONGEST!!
>>531190441>literally a riveted together sledWe're doomed, not even trying to be facetious. These niggas are resourceful
>>531188908>it's....IT'S EXPENSIVE!!!>Who forces you to buy a pack every day, fucking peat-gavelA better question to ask is who makes it expensive.
>>531190312>it's actually cheaper.$15k vs $6k isn't 'cheaper' though? It's nearly 3 times as expensive.
>>531188784those are weak sauce munitions compadre
>>531188784because 2stroke engines are not allowed due to emission restrictions
>>531190577exactly. hide them in a bunker or under visual/thermal camouflage, pop out, launch 5 drones at an oil refinery 1000 miles away, cause billions of dollars of damage.
>>531188784They aren't expensive enough
>>531188784Because the west consists of kleptocrats who take tax dollars, and constructs every program as a highly optimized system to skim as much of those tax dollars before they're applied to whatever problem is theoretically being solved.Consider a program to create a landing ship. Instead of taking an existing ship, and simply paying companies based on past performance to create a better version, we do the following.>Congress faggot who received bribes, demands that part of the project takes place in his district.>Another one also demands this.>Two halves of the ship are created in each area, with plans to weld them together in yet another congressional district.>Finally, the completed ship is cut back up so it can be shipped across the country to a fourth district to weld it back together.
>>531188784What purpose would it serve for western countries?We don't just destroy stuff for no reason, and those are just for that, to cause chaos.
>muh shasneed
>>531190441AND AMERICA IS DOING WEBBUM RELATEDTHERE ARE NO SEKRETS IN IRANSTOCKPILES WILL BE FOUND AND EXPLODED AT THE SOURCEDAY IN DAY OUTITS OPEN SEASON ON IR*AN
>>531190889now post the thermal video of the $100M F35 being shot down (1 of 2.)
Because we cry when an 86 year old dies
>>531190441>how are they just as cheap when they need to be launched by a larger aircraft that costs a lot of money, has high operating costs, requires a trained pilot, and requires significant support equipment to take off and land?Because that cost is paid in advance of the war. The fleet of stealth jets exists already along with all the infrastructure to support it so the US switching now from $20000 glide bombs that carry 2000lbs of explosives to $30000 Shaheds that carry 50lbs would be dumb.That isn't me shitting on the Shahed as a concept, it's true value is sustainability in war. You can build them so cheaply and quickly that you always have enough. The stealth fleet, that took a long time to set up in advance but it was an investment for future warfare.To put in plainly, someone who invests in a stealth fleet and 20,000 drones vs someone who invests in a million drones. Both sides will have infinite drones because they can produce them faster than they can find targets for them but only one side will have the stealth fleet. That is why I said Shahed type drones should be treated like artillery shells, stockpile only what you need to get production running and spend the rest on stockpiling the high end systems that can't be replaced quickly.
Iran Shahed Drone: $10,000–$20,000US LUCAS Drone: $30,000–$50,000Production Speed: [Shahed 1:5 Lucas]Why has the US become so pathetic?
>>531190858>We don't just destroy stuff for no reasonYou know most of the west has destroyed its energy sector, right?That's not even touching more esoteric things like the demographics of the native populations.
>>531190988>those costs don't count because they were in the paseven if i fall for this illogical and nonsensical argument, the present operating costs of a carrier aircraft (fuel and maintenance alone, not even counting the logistics of building and maintaining a runway or an aircraft carrier etc.) are far higher than the operating costs of an isuzu box truck. >>531190441
>>531191012AMERICA IS BLOWING UP THE ENTIRE DORITO FACTORIES AMERICA OWNS IRANS AIR SPACEHIDING UNDERGROUND WONT HELP THE IRGC THEIR SEKRET TUNNELS HAVE BOMBABLE ENTRANCES
>>531190988>>531191169also the shahed payload is more like 100 pounds, which is more than enough to successfully attack a highly flammable/explosive target like an oil refinery or oil storage facility.
>>531190858>What purpose would it serve for western countries?Saturation of airspace to draw enemy missiles. A country like China has hundreds of thousands of soft targets like power generation, fuel and ammo depots that aren't worth the time of Stealth Fighters targeting airfields, military bases, naval vessels, radar arrays, large factory complexes, ect, ect.They have a use in major warfare, less so fr bullying thirdies.>>531191012US has to pay its workers US wages. Also LUCAS is not much use in Iran considering the US can hit anywhere it wants with dirt cheap 2000lb glide bombs, if the US decided to produce as many LUCAS as it could, they could make millions a year.
>>531190988Is stealth still an "investment", now that the Chinese have rendered it impotent? Turns out you can use high altitude drones looking down with IR, combined with satellite networks to spot and track stealth planes.Optical tracking doesn't alert the target either, no radar lock warning so they can evade, just a sudden burst of anti air artillery fire shreds their plane.The F35 downing was likely an initial test, and the tech will only improve going forward.
>>531188784A bit too outdated for us.
>>531188784The last White man who knew how to make a propeller retired in 2020
>>531191180Capslock boomertard is may favorite poster. More geezers need to be shown how to use 4chan it would be really funny
>>531191169>the present operating costs of a carrier aircraft (fuel and maintenance alone, not even counting the logistics of building and maintaining a runway or an aircraft carrier etc.) are far higher than the operating costs of an isuzu box truck.And the US is going to pay that cost to be alble to project power around the globe in a way the Iranians can't so since they are paying that cost it makes sense to use the glide bombs.>>531191251>also the shahed payload is more like 100 pounds, which is more than enough to successfully attack a highly flammable/explosive target like an oil refinery or oil storage facility.US is attacking way more than flammable oil facilities, it is dismantling the Iranian conventional military and decapitating leadership. If you want to ship some LUCAS to damage some oil facilities, go ahead but the glide bombs are already there.>>531191279>Is stealth still an "investment", now that the Chinese have rendered it impotent?Promises, promises. Air defense couldn't even wipe out the tiny Ukrainian MiG-29 fleet which flew for years. Taking out the US air fleet is a monumental task considering China would be being bombed around the clock by it. Their neat trick may work at scale, it may not but even if it does, it will take years to degrade US capability.
>>531190022You got their girl's school real good. Unfortunately, much like Operation Linebacker it did absolutely fucking nothing to help you win the war.
>>531191279HIGH ALTITUDE DRONES ARE SEEN BY RADAR AND SHOT DOWN IN A SECONDRADARS DONT SEE F35 UNTIL THE RADARS ARE ALREADY DEADTHE WORLDS BIGGEST FIFTH GEN FLEET IS CURRENTLY STEAMROLLING IR*AN
>>531188784We did, it's more effective, almost impossible to jam, and cheaper
"why are westoids unable to build quarter size, quarter payload, quarter speed, flying dumb bombs?"This Dorito is a knockoff of an old German anti radar decoy munition used as a WW2 V1. It's not a cheap miracle weapon, it's an expensive way to deliver a single, small, poorly aimed, dumb bomb. The payload is comparable to the US SBU glide bomb, which has actual target homing, and costs about the same as a war Dorito. By the way, the Russian war doritos had 50+ American made parts, and 15 Chinese ones, for the "mutts don't build things" faggots in here. Westoids absolutely could build these but they are useful mainly in specific undesirable circumstances. 1, Ukraine, aka WW1 plus drones, where both sides have somehow achieved air inferiority. 2. Harassment of civilian populations against an enemy with aerial supremacy, where it doesn't matter if your swarm of dumb bombs is cost-ineffective, it doesn't matter if they do any meaningful damage to the enemy, as long as it hits something and makes smoke for the news photos. If the western press wasn't running PR for Iran, these flying dumb bombs would be useless
>>531188784the military industrial complex of the west is designed to wasteful in order to siphon away tax payer money to rich people.
>>531188784It had literally been Israel drone originally.
>>531192031Holy shit, BRUTAL migapede boomer cope.
>>531188784It's. German design dumbass
>>531191870>HIGH ALTITUDE DRONES ARE SEEN BY RADAR AND SHOT DOWN IN A SECONDChina stole our RQ-180 designs, their temu variant is just as stealthy as ours. How do you propose we detect a drone which is likely even more stealth to radar than an F35?
>>531188784>Why are westoids unable to build anything close to this?Not expensive enough to make a 1000% profit for the MIC
>>531188784
>>531190889>No secondary explosionBlowing up groceries? I'm sure the locals will love you now that you destroyed their rice.
>>531191012>Iran Shahed Drone: $10,000–$20,000It's $5000-$8000, anon.
>>531192041the russian one is both wasteful *and* retarded
>>531192031posted by pic related
>>531191623I think that's fagseth personally.
Simplicity and low cost beats expensive overengineered crap eventually because the former can be produced in far more numbers.
>>531192031The problem is that even if they are flying dumb bombs, they still have more of them than we can intercept. The cost of trying to defend against it is vastly more than the attack itself costs. This is a bad situation to be in, and saying otherwise is just coping that "You didn't win, I LET you shoot me. I could have stopped you, I just didn't want to. i bet you feel real proud of yourself just because I'm bleeding out on the ground here, but you're wrong. I won. I won. I w-ACK."
>>531193264hes right though, the missile tunnel strat has been tried by much more competent and better coordinated players and its not a winning move, particularly for a player who doesn't know what winning looks like
because its cheap, defense contractors can't ask for billion of taxpayer dollars
>>531193418>much more competent and better coordinated playerslollmao even.Friendly reminder that Iranians are university graduates in airconditioned reinforced bunkers with wifi, not sheep herders in caves.>They're poorly coordinated!They're watching anime on their smartphones connected to the bunker's wifi.
My favorite part here is all the foreign outrage.
>>531188784Germany built this design first.
>>531193573they don't have a hope of winning, they're literally optimizing for losing the war
>>531193573Is that why their capitol has a massive water crisis?Do you even research the goat fucking trash you support? Or is just " i hate mirica?"
Because it's cost-effective. Westoid MIC can't make huge margins on this.Iran made this shit to win wars, Westoid make shit to sell.
>>531193751Keep telling yourself that, anon.Remember that you said this when Q3 comes around and the numbers roll in.
>>531193801>their capitolTheir capitol didn't, actually. Khuzestan & Shiraz did.
>>531193382Then they will cope about how "unfair" the enemy is, for not waging the war murican strategist wanted. See Afghanistan, when it was just 20 years of going between gloating about K/D and frustration about the Taliban "refusing to properly fight" and then all the trillion dollar war machine with its toys was useless in stopping them. Iran is going to get even worse in every possible way.>>531193813Imagine how cost effective it is for China to sell drone parts to Iran, while their greatest geopolitical rival is getting stuck in a middle east quagmire for yet another 20 years.
>>531193932https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/irans-water-crisis-a-national-security-imperative/Fucking lol, you're soo poorly informed and educated
>>531193819their retarded mosaic defense is the antithesis of effective military plan, they've tried it before>When a senior Mongol diplomat was executed by Khwarazmshah Muhammed II, the Khan mobilized his forces, estimated to be between 90,000 and 200,000 men, and invaded. The Shah's forces were widely dispersed and probably outnumbered—realizing his disadvantage, he decided to garrison his cities individually to bog the Mongols down. However, through excellent organization and planning, the Mongols were able to isolate and conquer the Transoxianan cities of Bukhara, Samarkand, and Gurganj. Genghis and his youngest son Tolui then laid waste to Khorasan, destroying Herat, Nishapur, and Merv, three of the largest cities in the world. Meanwhile, Muhammed II was forced into flight by the forces of Mongol generals Subutai and Jebe; unable to reach any bastions of support, he died destitute on an island in the Caspian Sea.
>>531194032>Look at thing I just jewgled 5 seconds ago>Lol you are poorly informed.Cope.
>>531194227Poor muhammed, does reality bother you?
>>531194039>they've tried it beforeBack before they had internet & communications everywhere, you mean?Their 'mosaic defense' just means their defense are scattered. They're still in full communication with one another, and coordinating their attacks. (They're also still coordinating with Hezbollah).
>>531194326>realityNigger you wouldn't know what reality was if the zognald personally shoved it up your ass.
>>531188784Why would Jews make cheap shit?
>>531188784We don’t build anything anymore and haven’t for quite some time. Boomers and jews shipped out our manufacturing capacity to the chinks long ago.
>>531194397Because it’s a devastatingly effective tool that’s enabling their adversaries to win, memeflag?
>>531194337the iranian plan in a nutshell:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8q6vTijil0&t=8meanwhile in reality the other guy will just kick their head in
>>531194384>zog, gay insultsOh noes, more third world outrage.The reality is that iran is getting wrecked and you're seething your brown ass offf over it.
>>531191012The US has to pay workers US wages. Iran has a PPP factor heavily in its favor ($1 USD in Iran goes something like 4-5x as far as $1 USD in the US). When adjusting for PPP the drones are roughly the same price.
>>531194519>in reality the other guy will just kick their head inThen why don't they?4 days, right?
>>531194538>brown insultsWhiter than you, mutt.You are the brown in this conflict.
>>531194577whos saying they aren't? the mainstream news?
>>531194577I'd love to hear about your military experience that gives you the insight here as some dutch zoomie faggot.
>>531194538>brown >ZOG isn’t real goyim >t. evil jew We’ve always said shitskin here, globohomo jew tourist
>>531188784A-10s have arrived.BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR All gone.
>>531194633>whos saying they aren't?The impacts in countries keep saying that.Also NATO is now pulling out of Iraq, because it's not safe enough for them anyore.>>531194639I thought I was brown? Now I'm not?
>>531188784we can build it just fine, the problem is that it's not very useful for attackers, but very useful for defenders.you aren't going to crack any bunkers with those toys, but if it's just about interrupting supply lines and shit to make the war ruinously expensive for the attacker, they are perfect.
>>531194547IRAN IS COLLAPSING ECONOMICALLY AND IT GETS WORSE EVERY DAY THAT IRANS TERRORIST ATTACKS ON THE GULF CONTINUETHE RIOTERS THEY DECIDED TO MASSACRE IN JANUARY WAS DUE TO THE IRANIAN ECONOMY IMPLODING
>>531194717He can’t keep his shit straight. Like any of those globohomo jew shills, they just lob generic brown shit as an insult. We’ve always said shitskin here. Any of the posters saying “brown” are trying to get us to moderate perceived “racism”
>>531188971>$35K per unitThis is precisely the problem.
>>531194717>look at how strong we are>we can launch missiles at targets in countries not involved in the warnot impressed
>>531194765>Rial crashThe one Bessent gloated about causing?
>>531194765>caps lock is cruise control for cool Actual boomer posting
>>531188975Came here to post this
>>531194875>not involved in the warThey're actually able to track exactly what the contributions are. And strike those with an accuracy of roughly 1.5m.
>>531194538In all fairness Iran has a massive strategic advantage which makes up for its tactical and weaponry inferiority.They basically have the global economy's nuts in a vice (much more than oil is sourced from the gulf states, aluminum, helium, drug precursors, fertilizer components, etc are all largely sourced from the gulf), and they've already done permanent damage, blowing up ~20% of the global LNG supply and ~50% of the global helium supply. The question now is whether the US can permanently destroy Iran's capabilities to hurt the global economy before Iran finishes it off.
>>531194765Iran has anon western economy based on labor and conquest, not faggy paper currency or muh gee dee pee. Kill yourself
>>531194875>the ability to stand off against Israel and the U.S. and threaten the world economy isn’t impressive in any way Something tells me military planners all over the world disagree.
>>531188784wtf are you talking about this thing has counterfeit BMW engine
>>531194942>look the iranians are retardednot impressed
>>531188784Because it's so simple that it doesn't let middle men skim off profit from making them
>>531194960You are posting an intelligent and likely correct analysis I agree with you. That globohomo shill is just going to shit on you and will never acknowledge any of your points though.
>>531195025>the ability to standwe'll see about that when US is done concentrating force
>>531193382>The problem is that even if they are flying dumb bombs, they still have more of them than we can intercept.Interception was never going to be perfect. In a historical context the Ukrainians' 90 percent interception rate is incredibly good. And here is the part the reddit fag chorus is missing. Ignoring the 4chan cost estimates that get lower every day, a swarm of 100 drones costs something like 3 million dollars. If Israel intercepts all but 2 of them, but those 2 manage to hit some pipes at a refinery and set a fire, redditoids will claim that it's Iran winning, but what have they actually done? Spent 3 million dollars on the equivalent of 1 500lb dumb bomb. Where's the cost effectiveness now?
>>531195055Sauce?
>>531195155What are you blabbering about? You didn’t even address the very real fact they’re being attacked from those places
>>531188971Chinese suicide drones used in Ukraine are worth less than $2000 per unit without accounting for ammunition. You better pray that Burgerstanis don't get in any conflict with China
>>531195155>more coping and seething
>>531194577Tbh Iran is getting their head kicked in but they have an enormous strategic tool at their disposal which makes them extremely damaging even when getting their shit kicked in
>>531190337>Communist Russia. Doesn't exist. Russia was Socialist, you could own apartments , cars and summer homes.The rest of it I agree.
>>531195216>Interception was never going to be perfect.When 5 AD missiles fail to intercept a single incoming missile, "not perfect" really isn't the term you should be using, anon.
>>531188784Shahed is a copy of the western DAR from like 30 years ago
>>531195205> we'll see about that when US is done concentrating forceWhy wasn’t that done at the beginning? This is feeling a lot like when Russia had to spend a bunch of time bringing forces to the theater after their initial 2022 invasion by Kiev failed.
>>531195295and I am not impressed by their retarded vague statements about things they understand nothing about
>>531195391maybe the plan was to get iran give them to reason to use more force
>>531190535So where are German drones? >but trust us, it was all made in GermanyHow about no.
>>531195216> In a historical context the Ukrainians' 90 percent interception rate is incredibly good.Anon, by now you should have understood an incredible amount of the claims of those Ukrainian interception rates are total bullshit.
>>531195391No anon, you don't understand. They planned this for months. This entire conflict is about the strait of hormuz, that's why they forgot to bring any ground troops, and forgot about the strait altogether until after the war started.Also they bombed a school because their old maps didn't conform with their high-tech 4k realtime sattelite feed showing children entering the building every day for the past decade.
>>531194961TELL IT TO THE IRANIAN PEOPLE WHO WERE RIOTING ABOUT THE CURRENCY CRASH THAT WAS CAUSED BY IRANS NUCLEAR AMBITIONS TO TAKE OVER THE MIDDLE EASTTHE IRANIAN PEOPLE WHOMSTD THE AYATOLLAH REGIME MURDERED IN JANUARYTHE BIGGEST KILLER OF IRANIANS WAS JUST REMOVED BY AMERICAN AIR POWERDDEATH TO AMERICA -ACK!
>>531195404> and I am not impressed by their retarded vague statements about things they understand nothing about>The Iranians are in no position to opine on who is attacking them or where it’s originating from. They can’t be trusted to get it right What the fuck is this retarded shit
>>531195346>don't get in an arse kicking contest with a porcupine
>>531195502>90%Try ZERO percent you retarded faggot shill.They can only hit the old propeller drones Gerans that they dont even make anymore.Ukraines meme drones are useless against the Geran 3s and 5s.
>>531195404>retarded vague statements about things they understand nothing aboutThis is why nobody is impressed by anything you're saying.>TELL IT TO THE IRANIAN PEOPLE WHO WERE RIOTING ABOUT THE CURRENCY CRASHAgain: The one Bessent gloated about causing?https://blackbull.com/en/trading-opportunities/treasury-secretary-bessent-make-iran-broke-again/
>>531195511> THE IRANIAN PEOPLE WHO WERE RIOTING ABOUT THE CURRENCY CRASHStrangely, a phenomenon reflected not very much in Iran but overseas in globohomo jew countries
>>531195599yeah, those dogshit genetics retards unironically don't get a say, they're inferior
>>531195511>THE IRANIAN PEOPLE WHOMSTD THE AYATOLLAH REGIME MURDERED IN JANUARYHow are they rioting if they are dead?
>>531195705do you need an ambulance?
>>531195782You know there's video of the HIMARS launch from UAE soil, right?It's been posted here repeatedly.Do you need a brain?
>>531195380Most of the vids you see where multiple interceptors fail to intercept an incoming missile happen when the missile didn't get intercepted midcourse over Iraq and Jordan. That's why people see footage of failed interceptions over Israel and think no interceptions are happening, the successful interceptions are happening earlier in the flight of the missile. I'm an Iraqi immigrant and I have friends in Iraq, based on what they tell me the midflight interception rate is high.
>>531195868how is that relevant at all? russia launched attacks out of belarus, that doesn't mean ukraine should go bomb belarusian civilians
>>531190577>These niggas are resourcefulThey've been under sanctions since forever so they probably built the factories to be self sufficient in the whole manufacturing process. They've been attacked multiple times so they've been preparing for this.They have a shit ton of mountains so they can have subterranean bases with thousands of drones.They have never flexed or showed their capabilities because they know the jews and the US would adapt to that.They haven't attacked first and only retaliate, when they lose an oil refinery they hit a gas site in some Israel aligned gulf country.Now they are super motivated to get nukes and are probably doing everything they can for that, they don't even need ICBMs like who needs to attack the US when the real capital of the US is just near them.Honestly everyone I know is cheering for Iran, if we were men and real christians we'd topple our governments and some of us would die but we'd do it anyways and bring back real christianity, but for that we need to be real christians now and we need to remove all the jews. But we're christian enough (even the atheists) to recognize which side is in the right.Also the Iranians need to learn from the US and start using Napalm against Israel instead of those missiles that don't do that much damage, or they need something to terrify the jews, like imagine if instead of having one big bomb or multiple medium bombs, each missile had hundreds of small hand grenade sized bombs that would get scattered accross Tel Aviv, they're just hand grenades so they won't do much damage, but everyone will experience them, and the jews are the race with the least courage in the whole world, that would probably push them to topple their own regime.
>>531195981all that effort just to optimize to lose
>>531195699> Try ZERO percent you retarded faggot shill.0%? Jesus. Having bantz with you spiritually jewish fucks is damn near impossible. Just wild jewish extremes and nothing else. I guess it’s either 90%+! Interceptions! Or 0? The Ukrainians obviously take some down. I’ve watched the livestreams and seen the interceptions. I’ve also watched the streams and seen more missiles impact just in my stream I’m viewing than the total the Ukrainians end up claiming the following morning. They’re intercepting shit but it’s probably a decently low percentage. Probably below 50%. The Ukrainians are getting good at drone interceptions with other drones, that much is undeniable. Still, they aren’t even intercepting a huge majority of the drones or anything.
>>531195738THAT WAS JUST THE STARTAS THINGS CONTINUE GETTING WORSE IN IRANDUE TO IRANS REGIONAL AMBITIONS TO TAKE OVER THE MIDDLE EASTTHE AYATOLLAHS GREED BASICALLYAS REGIME TARGETS KEEP GETTING SURGICALLY STRIKED BY AMERICAN AIR POWERTHE REGIME WEAKENS AND LOSES ITS GRIP ON THE PEOPLE OF IRAN
>>531195699They don't use patriots to intercept drones, they use APKWShttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Precision_Kill_Weapon_System
>>531195935The Ukrainians attacked the German nordstream 2 pipeline shill
>>531195981>Now they are super motivated to get nukes and are probably doing everything they can for that, they don't even need ICBMs like who needs to attack the US when the real capital of the US is just near them.Israel won't ever get nuked, the fallout would circle back to iran & allies like palestine and shia lebanon. The only viable alternative which Iran is doing is bombing out Israel to depopulate it and cause it to shut down from within
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>>531195903>Most of the vids you seeYeah. All of those videos. And you'll still screech about a 90% interception rate per AD missile.
>>531195935>civilianskys
>>531196306while US and Israel are precision target Iranian military assets, the Iranian cretins are focusing on shooting at bystandersIran isn't going to win this, they're even more retarded than Hitler, at least Hitler could rely on competent officers
>>531196245Yes but this discounts all the midcourse interceptions that people don't see and the successful ones that don't go viral
>>531190952You mean the fake AI video that your retarded ass is shilling?
>>531196306More retarded shilling by the guy that worships a pedo.
>>531196394Iran has the capacity to permanently scar the global economy (and has already deployed it to an extent). This is mike tyson versus a pasty teenager with a loaded gun.
>>531196394>precision target Iranian military assetsLike schools and fishing boats?
>>531194960>They basically have the global economy's nuts in a vice (much more than oil is sourced from the gulf states, aluminum, helium, drug precursors, fertilizer components, etc are all largely sourced from the gulf), and they've already done permanent damage, blowing up ~20% of the global LNG supply and ~50% of the global helium supply.As usual, the supply chain discussion seems to be reliant on secondary sources selectively reporting in an attempt to create an appearance of crisis. Aluminum, for instance, is not "largely sourced from the Gulf", the Gulf states produce 4 Mt of the global 70 Mt.But even sillier is this claim of "permanent" destruction. Were these pipes, pumps, and storage tanks created by a vanished race of lost Atlanteans? In fact all of this stuff was built quite recently (South Pars field wasn't even discovered until 1990) and can easily be repaired or rebuilt. "Permanent" my ass.
>>531196632And the us doesn't?Holy fuck, hey moron who's economy is more important?
>>531196486When you're firing 4 AD missiles by default, your interception rate per AD missile if there's a succesfull interception is 25%, not 90%.
>>531195456>made in Germany*invented in Germany
>>531193186Coukd be a school bus, would be more accurate.
>>531196741This "dutchman" sure loves islamists for some unknown reason.
>>531196655DONT USE MILITARY BUILDINGS AS SCHOOLS ITS YOUR FAULT IRGCIRGC IS TO HAVE NO BOATSZERO BOATSIRGC BOATS HIDING IN TUNNELS NOT THERE EITHER
>>531196655>Like schools targeting the secrets polices families might be a tactic to make them do retarded things, US can be sadistic
>>531196892>ZERO BOATSTheir boats intercepted a tanker just yesterday.Why do you have to lie?
>>531196724It can be repaired yes but takes a very long time to start up. iirc LNG plants can take weeks to start up.>>531196736The US operates on a trade deficit. We're (unfortunately) not as relevant a lynchpin as we once were. The US trashing the global economy doesn't hurt Iran bc they don't rely on us for anything, it just pushes other countries toward China.>>531196741Firing 4 missiles is an edge case whose perceived frequency is inflated by internet algorithms and Indian slop accounts
>>531197019 >I love iran, for no reason at all i promiseYou're so obvious.What's it like to never eat pork?
>>531197128>trade deficit means you have no powerThe opposite is true, those idiots depend on us.
>>531196929>We're going to save the iranians by murdering their children!Here's how retarded you are, anon.>>531197128>an edge caseIt's not though. To the point where Zelenskike is already complaining about it.>>531197134>What's it like to never eat pork?Haven't a clue. Hamburgers are from Germany fyi.
>>531197019YOU MEAN MORE ILLEGAL TERRORISM BY THE IRGCTHATS THE REASON THEY GET NO BOATSTHE DEBOATENING OF THE IRGC IS IN HIGH GEARIRGC BY ITS OWN ACTIONS KEEPS MAKING THE CASE FOR TOTAL REGIME DEATH
>>531197214>THE DEBOATENING OF THE IRGC IS IN HIGH GEARyea yea yeah.. 9th time this week, right?
>>531197195Extremely myopic outlook. We don't produce as much material as we consume. No matter how you look at this it's a flaw.>>531197212Give me hard numbers on interception rates that are based on actual statistical analysis and not vatnik zigger circlejerking
>>531197390it doesn't matter if it takes days, weeks or months, iran cannot winthey've optimized to lose
>>531197212Wow, you are for sure not dutch.Hamburgers are made from beef, but you dont know that from whatever third world you vpn from.
>>531197390THIS WEEK TRY THIS HOURLITERALLY RIGHT NOW AT THIS VERY MOMENTITS OPEN SEASON ON IRANBECAUSE THEY EARNED ITIRGC TARGET LIST GETS SHORTER BY THE DAYFAFO
>>531197444Leftists like you dont get to whine about the economy.You dont know how it works.
>>531188784Lack of real aryan genes
>>531197444>hard numberssomewhere between 35 and 45 percent>>531197477Hamburgers are usually a combination of beef & pork, mixed together.Fries are from Belgium by the way.
>>531188971>looks like a penis with wingsThe west just can’t remove the lgbt agenda from their minds
>>531190577lol
>>531197610And they're fried in horse fat.You people are animals. Ive actually lived in europe unlike you and know more about living there than a third worlder like you.
>>531197556Since when am I a leftist?>>531197610What methodology did you use to reach this conclusion?
>>531188784>>531194041Even the truck starters are similar.
>>531197695a US naval destroyer from 1940s can take those out from 18km with radar guided guns and proximity fuzed 5 inch shells
>>531188784By some miracle, the Pentagon managed to assemble a dream team to build a Shahed for a modestly reasonable cost.Probably had to keep the existence of the entire program top secret from the whole of Washington but amazingly the Lucas drone only costs 2-3x as much as a Shahed.
>>531197723>What methodology did you usemath. More specifically algebra. It's this high-iq thing from the east. You've probably never heard of it.
>>531197695The craziest thing about the Shahed is how it didn't get adopted earlier. The technology to make a propeller driven guided munition has existed for over 70 years.
>>531197943Yeah we didnt use that to put the Webb telescope in a far side of the moon Lagrange orbit.You just hate the us, you for sure are brown and have to pray 5 times a day.You and your filthy dogshit god.
>>531188975You gave away your f16s to Ukraine bro
>>531188784too cheap
>>531198024the Germans made the version the Iranians are copying 50 years ago
>>531190577There are thousands of US engineers who could make things like that happen, but your society is too corrupt to permit them to work. Instead they eke out careers as Youtubers, or worse go work as video game quants in finance. By the time the Washington figures this out, most of them will have been busified to the front and been killed by an Iranian FPV drone.
>>531188784They think too complicated.Simple = better in many cases.The entire iranian drone program is based on reverse engineering a downed reaper and after many iterations they distilled it into this crude but elegant design. Cheap, easy to make, easy to deploy.
>>531197822FPV would blow it sky high>>531198024>>531198148This is the IAI Harpy, adopted in 1989 which is what the Shahed 136 was cloned from. I think the kikes copied the Germans.
>>531197943How did you select samples for your statistical analysis?
>>531189297> Comparing a glide bomb that requires a flying launch platform to what is essentially a long range cruise missiles that only needs a truck.Apples and oranges.
>>531198210picrel
>>531188784because mr. kikeberg can't put 90000000% margin on such drone
>>531190952What is the rate of f35 sorties to downed aircraft? Is the brag "its not 100% anymore"? We lost a single f117 on a "fluke blunder" and adapted in the 90s. Overall stealth disruptions the kill chain effectively.
>>531198178Sorry our engineers are busy doing real thingshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOzVgPdBqM4
>>531191929>cheaper doubt
>>531198210>FPV would blow it sky highFVPs don't carry enough material to put a WWII warship out of action unless you target the torpedoes stored on the deck
>>531188784It's light bolt principle, if it not profitable enough then (((they))) don't want it
>>531190889> No massive explosion caused by ammo detonationEither mutts is shooting decoys or just random trucks.
>>531198462I meant the Shahed truck could be fucked up by an FPV, or literally anything. It's a truck full of bombs and fuel.
>>531198313The implication here is that the US MIC is a literal god-like entity and scratching it an an epoch defining feat
>>531198024>The technology to make a propeller driven guided munition has existed for over 70 years.Don't be ridiculous. The key enabler of these drones has been computer miniaturization, pretty much in the last 15 or so years. None of these drones could have done anything remotely useful for the cost before then.The US had drones in the 1990s but they probably cost too much to be mass produce, and too little to interest the MIC so they were just shitcanned. Instead you spend the money on MRAPVs and surveillance state AI to better occupy Arab states for Israel.
>>531197669Pynchon said it better but zoomies can't read his book without getting the vapours.
>>531197737>Be german MIC>Develop flying lawn mower with explosives strapped to it during cold war>Project never goes anywhere so whatever sell the plans to Israel>Autistically keep developing AA guns despite everyone shilling expensive ass american missile systems>Suddenly the explody lawn mowers are everywhere and you are the only one that can provide a cost effective way to defend against themDid they just sleepwalk into this or did they know what horrors they unleashed on the world?
>>531197851Who makes them? Can i become a supplier?
>>53118878480% of the parts are imported from western sources.
>>531198188The Shahed shares more DNA with a speedboat than it does with a Reaper. You're thinking of the RQ-170 crash, which spawned its own knockoff unrelated to the Shahed.
>>531190022And now Iran is nuking your petrodollar while the rest of the world stands back and allows it. The whole world despises America and Israel, this is entirely due to your own evil deeds. Your downfall will be celebrated
>>531198609Now that you mention it, I suddenly realize that they're probably just being subcontracted to China. Oh well.
>>531198580If computer miniaturization is mature enough to make a SAM it's mature enough to make a drone
>>531198609>Can i become a supplier?buy some lawn mower engines in bulk and setup a shop
>>531196394>the Iranian cretins are focusing on shooting at bystandersKek!They are literally crushing the ecomony that the US relies on to survive.
>>531197737Somebody probably published this in a magazine in the 1990s.
>>531197134I just hate ZOG, desu.You jews will always be my enemy.
>>531198829Who's the worlds largest producer of oil?
>>531198882>desu used incorrectly An ignorant leftist preddit weeb? You must be an expert on geopolitics.
We actually are making them. They are called LUCAS and they're developed by Spear UAV.They cost about $35,000 per unit.
>>531198607Fucking Germans.You invent everything that becomes a staple of modern warfare.The entire rocket programs of the US and USSR are based on German programs.How do you do it, niggers?
>>531198978> Hasn't lurked enough to understand /pol/'s filter.Dumb nu-fag kike rat!Lurk for another year, before posting here, you inbred kike!
>>531199048>anyone who isnt a lefty like me has to be a kikeZoomer thinking is so limited
>>531191012What is our use case for these drones?They are small and cheap which makes them useful for volume of fire against weakly armored or civilian targets.Iran developed them for use against American infantry formations or ag a inst population centers.Why would we need equivalents when we are focused on destroying high value targets rather than causing mass casualties
>>531195981>Also the Iranians need to learn from the US and start using Napalm against Israel instead of those missiles that don't do that much damage, or they need something to terrify the jews, like imagine if instead of having one big bomb or multiple medium bombs, each missile had hundreds of small hand grenade sized bombs that would get scattered accross Tel Aviv, they're just hand grenades so they won't do much damage, but everyone will experience them, and the jews are the race with the least courage in the whole world, that would probably push them to topple their own regime.i agree with your whole post except for this, Iran doing something like this would be a huge gift to Israel, because they own all the media and would use that to force narration that Iran is doing a literal holocaust v2 on them or some shit like thisi don't understand why Iran isn't using that school bombing for their propaganda and blaming it on Israel. whole world should see videos and images of dead children, it would be great for them and would probably even make some of the hard-die christian/evangelist zionists in US change their mind on their support for Israel.
>>531199128Eat shit you little faggot, dont come on pol if you cant handle a few questions.This isnt preddit, say something that actually matters memeflaggot.
>>531199015Coolest thing about these guys are the starlink terminals IMO.In all seriousness, why not place these in giant racks and load them on a C-17 or C-5? You could probably fit upwards of 1000 inside.
>>531198607If AA guns were effective Ukraine would be begging for them and not Patriot
>>531199154>destroying high value targetsLOL, you mean random schools and hospitals?LOLOLOLOLOLOL OK!
>>531195186You're both just posting more sandnigger cope. Your posts and replies are so practiced and rehearsed it sounds like when you shitskins scam call me and try to sell me a home security system. You and every other thirdie in the world lost again, tranny.
>>531188784very soon they will. albinos are good at repackaging coloured innovations and then calling it their own. westoid anti-civilization is just repackaging and denying.
>>531188784Companies dont want to produce anything "low value".They make too much money off an irresponsible and bloodthirsty country too stupid to ask questions.>huuuuurrrrrrr mai cuntrees weapons PRICY!!! MEAN BETTER!!!!!
>>531199241Do you know what muslims do to gays like you?
>>531198829we'll see about that, I am not betting on Iran in this one
>>531199230You dumb kike rodent!You don't even know about the word filters active on /pol/!You dumb kike desperately trying to fit in.Fucking faggot kike shill!
>>531193734Also this,These things are piss easy to shoot down, you can use ww2 era flack guns
>>531199238There's a company called Allen Control systems developing gun mounts where you can put an AR pattern rifle inside and it automatically tracks and shoots down FPVs. Maybe that'll eventually be useful.
>>531195981>imagine if instead of having one big bomb or multiple medium bombs, each missile had hundreds of small hand grenade sized bombs that would get scattered accross Tel Avivthe moment Israel runs out of interceptors, Iran is going to dooomp their supply of cluster missiles on them
>>531199307I am not gay, so Idc.I hate kikes and support their enemies!>>531199356We will see.But they are doing well thus far.
>>531199291Sorry for teaching you guys about things like electricity, plumbing, and advanced irrigation.
>>531197128>It can be repaired yes but takes a very long time to start up. iirc LNG plants can take weeks to start up.Years will elapse before confidence is fully restored.Engineers and project managers tasked with rebuilding critical infrastructure will be reluctant to enter environments that remain unstable or unsafe.These are highly skilled professionals—not slave labor that can simply be deployed at will. Even after Israeli agression subsides, there will be a meaningful lag before qualified personnel are willing to return to former conflict zones to oversee reconstruction, particularly for complex assets like LNG facilities. The extent of the damage appears to be underestimated, both in terms of physical infrastructure and the confidence required to re-engage.It could even be a decade before its fully operational. In parallel, labor, security, and insurance costs will rise sharply, placing sustained pressure on operating margins for the companies involved. Reconstruction timelines are unlikely to be linear, and the risk premium embedded in these projects will remain elevated well beyond the formal end of conflict.Because Washington cannot mobilise their military to fight for Israel, the Jews and their pedophile politicians in Washington have attacked key British energy assets in the Qatar as a way to put pressure on them to involve British military assets in the region. America is weak and vulnerable and they thought they could attack an ally with a false flag so that they would fight on behalf of Israel and their AIPAC donors.Also Lindsey Graham is a homosexual.
>>531198240>Apples and oranges.It's not, they do the same thing. the difference is America has the flying launch platforms to use the 2000lb glide bomb while Iran only has the truck to launch the Shahed with the 50lb warhead. That is why "Westoids" are not scrambling to use these things, they have a better option in cheap glide bombs.
>>531199360>ree i can eat bacon reeeCongrats you're a shut in muslim.
>>531188784They think they're better. Nothing can ever be simple or cheap. They think they're the pinnacle of civilization and everyone else is a bunch of dumb idiots who can't do anything. Colonialism hasn't gone anywhere; it's just taken on a different form, and now it's all done under the pretext that it's for the good of the people
>>531188784They are trying with the drone plant in Ohio. Here's the problem though, that plant alone cost 1 billion dollars to build. When you are of the mindset that everything has to be of the top quality and you don't actually manufacture any of the individual parts yourself then it's going to cost a lot to make drones. Then you have Iran who was sending what are essentially wooden drones with explosives that cost less than 10k to make. They can make a 1,000 of these in a year and the U.S. can only make 150 a year and that's stretching it. The moment China cuts the supply chain then no more drones.
>>531199237I think that the US military is trying to pivot to drone swarm tactics as fast as they can. The problem is that, in a drone swarm war, the side which is more deeply dug in and can deploy more drones wins. The US is weak on both those fronts.
>>531188784The americans have literally the same drone in mass production and have had for years.>>531188908Huutista jos totta
>>531199524The money supply is basically infinite in the gulf lolPersonnel will be paid whatever is needed, same as with oil rigs
>>531190441fuck me this pic goes hard
>>531199367>put an AR pattern rifleThat's absolutely useless for shahed like drones.You need somehing that can attack at a higher altitude.
>>531195305>comparing FPV drones to sneedheds and the likeMentally retarded faggot.
>>531199238They don't need to beg because the ammo is easy to supply. Except for that one time with the Gepards where Switzerland sperged out. Also Patriots are not used against small drones. They use them against aircraft, cruise missiles, and ballistic missiles.
>>531199547>It's not, they do the same thingNot quite, you are not counting the cost of the plane used to carry it and the difficulty of getting it into the range needed to fire. You are coping.
>>531197851>$35Kwhat a fucking scam lol, aren't the Shahed 2 with a $3.5K pricetag? Literally x10 more expensive for the same crap (maybe worse).
>>531199259Pretending that everything is fine and that you are winning, does not actually make you win. It did not work in Vietnam, did not work in Afghanistan and does not work right now.>>531199417It is literally just sporadic suppression bombardment right now. They can send out a small wave of cheap shit right now, fully knowing that israel must launch all of its top shelf interception missiles for propaganda reasons and those are expressive, so Iran is still winning in material, even with a 100% interception rate. They have more cheap missiles and drones than the US can make patriots and THAADs, so time is on their side. They are also gaining from causing multiple air raid warning each day, forcing the jews to scurry for the shelters. Their neurotic nature HATES this and if kept up for months it will heavily wear them down. It also has a significant economic cost, you simply cannot run a company or a factory where every few hours everyone must throw away their tools and leave. Iran is in the long game now, cause they know negotiation is useless and meaningless, the US will renege on every deal, so why not just fight it out to the bitter end. It is depthlessly funny how this is the complete opposite of the result Trump went in for, he just wanted a quick victory for the midterms,
>>531189402They copied our designed, improved it, then we copied their improvement and improved it
>>531199237RAPID DRAGON DOES THIS WITH ENTIRE PALLETS OF CRUISE MISSILES DROPPED OUT THE BACK OF TRANSPORTSITS FOR TOTALEN BLITZKRIEG ON CHYNAQUICKSINK IS UP NEXT MARINE JDAMSTHE PLA NAVY IS GOING STRAIGHT TO THE BOTTOM OF THE TAIWAN STRAITBESSENT JUST SAID ALL THE ILLEGAL DAMAGE CAUSED BY IRAN FALLS ON THEIR SPONSOR CHYNA WHICH IS EXACTLY HOW IT IS
>>531196096>16 billys for 14 years of proxiesThats crazy good value holy shit, mutys probably gave 10b to the kurds and they havent even attacked LMAO
>>531199629Not true. The US military wants LUCAS to be produced in the order of tens of thousands of units annually. The drone dominance initiative aims to produce 340,000 total FPV drones by 2027, with initial production rates being 90k/yr and ramping up to 250k/yr.
>>531199701This is for FPVs and Shahed style drones closing in on the target if I understand correctly
>>531199987>our designedYou are not German.
>>531196096Where are these numbers sourced from even?
>>531199899US material costs and wages versus Iran material costs and wages
The Difference is that those fuktoy Drones blow up anything and anything it hits, friendly or foe hospital or tankMilion dollar missles seek a target.So why dont WE start to fight dirty. Start making drones that will hit anything, Schools, hospitals food banks, not only that but we muist have a shit ton of nuclear waste, pack in some of that with some SARIN gas to boot.No F-ing around if you go to war make sure you eradicate an inferior race of people or dont bother.Also get I.C.E to detain any arab looking people in USA for securith measures, you wearing stupid shit on your head you are headed to the camps, and anyone obstructing them from carrying out duties will also be guilty of their crimes, terrorist = dead sentenceHave STREET JUDGES sentence them on the spot.
>>531200163You would have to put a truck next to every building, that is not practical.Range and altitude must be increased.
>>531198607German autism should never be underestimated. These are the people who covered all their tanks in Zimmerit.
>>531200316>The Difference is that those fuktoy Drones blow up anything and anything it hits, friendly or foe hospital or tankThey blow up anything they are aimed at you dumb fucking kike rat.They are relatively precise.
>>531200340Stationary defense is one thing but this would be invaluable for, say, an infantry platoon or for tank defense.
>>531199675Have you met an engineer?and Project managers they manage risk and are usually pedantic as fuck.But, I do agree that the right incentives structures will speed it up. The problem is everyone will know and delay all production as it will be profitable to do so.The insurance companies, all the 3rd parties who manage risk will be wanting to get paid so it will be incredibly costly so your $200 billions will not be enough for what US has done.Also we can literally bomb the US mainland right now, we can flatten Mar-a-Lago Club and turn your family homes into ash and rubble and your population will think it is a false flag. The irony.Next time you bomb our assets and think you can mobilise your allies military for the benefit of your AIPAC donors remember how precarious of a position you're all actually in.You're a Jewish occupied nation and your military and people know it.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ztVDyTQlm14
>>531200482>an infantry platoonMaybe you would still need to haul the system right next to you at all time, so not practical. I suppose on the portability of the system as a whole. > or for tank defense.Not really, not unless you want to surround columns of moving tanks with them which is just not practical.Only if they are portable enough to be mounted on the tanks themselves can they be useful.
>>531196929Their kids got murdered for protesting weeks before by the Iranian military. Now the people that killed those people's kids had their kids and you want sympathy for them and not the others? Too bad. Don't build schools next to building you know americans are gonna bomb when you have a sandnigger moment. Maybe keep your kids in these unbombable tunnels and live like immortal rats forever.
>>531198730They're made in Arizona. It's an expensive model airplane. People are truly clueless about manufacturing, any usa boat or truck cap builder with molds and a chopper gun can make that basic fiberglass airframe at extremely low cost.
>>531188784>making weapons without 400% profit at leastwhy are you such a hateful antisemite?
>>531188784So, the air force can basically replicate Shahed's accuracy by unleashing the B-52s and carpet bombing Iran.
>>531199890He is right though. You already invested into the platform, then it's cheaper to use the platform to deliver a more efficient product. It's like building a huge factory to produce TVs and then asking why you're not assembling them by hand. You already paid the cost upfront to develop and build the platform. It's how building the full factory to produce 1 item is astronomically expensive but building a factory to produce 100k items is cheap
>>531188908YES
>>531200692It wasn't even next to, the school was in the former base headquarters building, no special markings of any kind. The Iranians put those children there deliberately knowing what could happen.
>>531200646Are things like trucks and AFVs suddenly impractical for an infantry platoon?
>>531188975Jews* gave away our f16s to ukraine
>>531200937They are in practical if you have to have them RIGHT next to your infantry at ALL TIMES!
>>531199943I'm not the poo or sandnigger hiding behind a VPN spreading cope because I'm embarrassed I'm losing so bad.
>>531199890>Not quite, you are not counting the cost of the plane used to carry itCounting towards what exactly? OP asked why westoids can't build them, my answer is that they can and do but aren't using them because Glide bombs are better and a similar cost to deploy. Why would I count the cost of a plan America already has? >and the difficulty of getting it into the range needed to fire.Lol. Yeah, the US air force is having difficulty with their total air dominance that no one can remotely challenge lol.
>>531200829>You already invested into the platform,Yeah, if you completely disregard the investment, sure, but why would I, LOL!?The latest F16 cost 3 or 4x the amount of money just PER HOUR of flight as a shahed!Retarded comparison.
>>531201072No, you are the kike rat hiding behind an American flag.
>>531199818>except that one time with the Gepards where Switzerland sperged outno that was the Skynex. go fuck yourself, we developed it, and export to active war zones is prohibited. especially the ammo.
>>531201049The bullfrog has a maximum range of 800-1500m (I was wrong about it being an AR pattern, there are several options), it can cover an entire platoon from a distance.
>>531201103>similar cost to deploy.They aren't.Just the cost per hour flight of an F16 V is 4 or 5x times that of the shahed's cost.So, we have to count the plane, assorted support systems AND the munitions itself.
>>531188784Jews cant make a buck off of it yet
>>531200890And how would some random faggot like you know that?
>>531199661>massLol, no. AND it costs 400 times as much
>>531200106>wantsThey can want whatever the fuck they want, the reality is they can't and they will pay astronomical MIC prices for what they do get
It's Fiery Friday goys!>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHiG-43Fzg
>>531201348Nope. That spergout was about Gepard ammo. Unless there was another spergout after that one. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/swiss-veto-german-request-re-export-tank-ammunition-ukraine-2022-04-26/
>>531201072This kind of edgy "safe racism" hasbara about "sandniggers" isnt going to work. You are jewish,
>>531201545I'm sure the world's single largest producer of aircraft will struggle to make drones
>>531194866>$35K per unit>This is precisely the problem.I would call it a symptom of the underlying problem.
>>531188784> Why are westoids unable to build anything close to this?Interesting question. To establish why westoids are unable to build anything like this, I propose allocating 10bn$ towards a (((consulting))) project along with foregoing (((scientific studies))) and a (((project kick-off meeting))) with underage prostitutes and cocaine.
>>531201746Actually Russia is the only country on earth that can build an aircraft with 90% domestic made parts.You should say assembled in the USA
>>531201431>Just the cost per hour flight of an F16 V is 4 or 5x times that of the shahed's cost.A Shahed is built by thirdies for like no wages so a LUCAS is a better price comparison at $35,000. That is more than a flight hour of the F-16 and about the same as an F-35. The Glide bombs are like 40,000 each. These are peanuts in terms of military costs and a single glidebomb carries way more explosives. Does it match 1:1 in cost, no, but it reliably destroys the target in way Shaheds and their tiny warheads can not. Shaheds are launched in swarms and sometimes one gets through... or none. Glidebombs pretty much always hit and utterly flatten the target. In the end they become cheaper by virtue of getting the job done in one. US has no use for their Shahed clones in this war. Against China maybe where the target environment is so rich that you need more strikes than US aircraft can handle but not in these thirdie bullying wars.
>>531191279Dumbest post in the thread
>>531201296AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN! WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW I'M FREE!YOU WERE BORN THE COLOR OF SHIT! AND SMELL LIKE POOP AND PEE!AND I'D GLADLY STAND UP NEXT TO JEWS TO KILL YOU ALL TODAY!CAUSE THERE AIN'T NO DOUBT I HATE DUNE COONS!GOD BLESS THE USAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Have fun being a mole person, sandnigger. Just dig a tunnel to Israel and put a nuke under it. lol
