What would need to happen to/in Russia for you to accept it as part of European community?In your opinion, what would be a sign that Russia if finally potential ally and not another incarnation of Golden Horde?
nice VPN, ivan
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>>531191599Give all the land they stole, so lands from Baltics, Finland, Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine, Kaliningrad needs to be given back, then all russians from non russian countries need to be sent back to russia, free gas and oil for 99 years for Europe, removal of all Soviet statues and symbols, release of all Soviet documents, end of histories revision, pay reparations to Ukraine, send Putin and all oligarchs to the Hague, start democratic process, and then we can maybe start talking about accepting russians.
>>531191599>Stop attacking other countries>Establish democratic ruleHow about that?
>>531191599then why are vpn russkies literally constantly spaming the timeline with "muh grab estonia", "muh bogdan"...
>>531192762Ukrainian niggers are squatting in Lwów and never apologized for their little genocideno payments of any sort to ukrainain subhumans until they apologize and give back stolen clay to Poland, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia and Russia
>>531192762>wewho the fuck are you again you subhuman jewish cockroach? come againyour family should be turnt into dog food, soap and lampshades if anything
>>531191599>russophobicYou guys coming up with this made me lose more respect for you than anything else. What a bunch of faggots.
>>531193476butthurters are the very definition of russophobic, can't mention Russia or Russians in a single sentence without them sóying and foaming at the mouth. the perfect cannon fodder golem for a wider NATO war and increasing MIC share valueswhen they tone down their PMS hysteria, we can talk about peace
tfw i have no mongol genes. good you know? so good feeling - no babushka tatar or grandpa
>>531192762Sounds reasonable. Here's a couple more: Russia must return the war reparations finland paid to soviet union after the winter war, with intrest.Russia must compensate their undersea cable sabotage to the countries affected for 10 times the amount it cost to repair them, just to show their remorse.Russia and EU will launch a joint investigation into bringing individuals suspected of ordering or carrying out war crimes in Ukraine into justice.Russia must shrink its army size to half of its current reserve.Then we can start talking about accepting Russia back into the international sphere.
>>531193967>international sphere>wewho is 'we' again, Moshe?keep living in lala land. and THD will go on, until you change the error of your ways
>>531194177Yeah, I agree, the error of our ways being having been far too merciful to russians
>>531192762>Give all the land they stolePlease keep it realistic.>>531192892>Stop attacking other countriesAccording to official Russian history Russia never attacked anyone. All wars were purely defensive. It became biggest country in the world by the power of friendship.But seriously, in case of Russian Federation it's hard to tell if 2 wars in Chechenya was crossing the line, or if it started with Georgia in 2008.>Establish democratic ruleThis is tough one, because it's just hard to see where "democratic rule" starts in place like Russia.In terms of leadership following will of it's people, Russia actually is democratic. Putin rigs each election because he's autocratic schizo, not because he actually has to.I was thinking that maybe if some presidents leaves office after 2nd term is a good sign, but Russia already did that and ended up with Putler.
>>531191599None of those countries are European
>>531194456sure Moshe. meanwhile Tel Aviv getting a severe poundinghey idiot, there is no such thing as le 'international community' and 'rules based order'. you've been fed slop and propagandizedthe fact you keep talking about 'we' 'the international sphere' is woman brained , are you sure you're not in the closet?
>>531194584>Line goes literally through center of Europe>None of those countries are EuropeanGTFO
>>531194504>Putin rigs each election because he's autocratic schizo, not because he actually has to.No. He rigs elections to communicate to the populace that they have no power and no say. He still makes a big deal out of the election exactly because it is a humiliation ritual against his opposition. It must take place and be rigged so the message gets clearly sent across.
Belters are perfect golems. Naive, emotionally unstable and gullible. They will gladly do satanic deeds for kikes thinking it's somehow better than being a Russian. Literal subhumans.
>>531194763>meanwhile Tel Aviv getting a severe poundingGood, putin's friends are getting rekt>the fact you keep talking about Oh, that word got you triggered? Thanks for letting me know, I'll keep using it then.Russia will never be be part of the international community again until they learn to behave. Until then, they'll sit in the corner with the BRICS shitholes
>>531191599How about 200-years without russia invading Europe? Hell, lets be generous and make it just 100-years.Its an impossible challenge for russians though, their race loves invading and murdering europeans.
>>531195382ironic jewish projection, cuz Russia has been invaded from the West 4 times. once every 100 yearsPLCCharles XIINapoleonGermanyand now NATO zogbots and EU globohomos set their ambitions against Russia, it's been 100 years again evenperhaps Westniggers should stop being invading terrorists creeping up Russia's ass ?
>>531195017>He still makes a big deal out of the election exactly because it is a humiliation ritual against his opposition.But it doesn't change the fact that he would still win these elections. Maybe with 60% or 70% instead of 90%, but still. His methods of humiliating opposition is exactly why Russians would vote for him. They just love sociopaths. That's why bringing democracy to Russia will be as hard as bringing it to some Arab country.That why pinpointing moment when Russia is actually democratic will be so difficult in future.
>>531195784>forgot to change his nameHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Muslim shitskin exposes himself! This meme never fails
>>531195784>>531195382>How about 200-years without russia invading Europe? Hell, lets be generous and make it just 100-years.Let's cut it to span of 2 generations (50 years) - because it means Russian society got to the point where not chimping out is repeatable pattern and we can finally disarm the fence.
>>531191599>for you to accept itNobody cares what Estonians, Lithuanians or Ukrainians accept (and your Belt on the map should extend further east). We here in the West know that Russia is European, and every time a former Russian vassal whines about it and does something pathetic like refuses to write 'Russia' with a capital R or edits images of maps to say 'Moscovia' instead, we just laugh.
>hungary>slovakia>czechia>croatia>slovenialmao none of them give a shit, the butthurt belt is just you, the 3 russian midgets and finnalnd but you are by far the most butthurt about them
>>531193943>babushka tatar or grandpaI lived among the Russians for ten years, working there in the 2000s. You are as likely to find Russians with occasional German, Estonian, French or even English ancestors. Tens of thousands of Westerners migrated there under the tsars - engineers, merchants, soldiers, governesses, doctors, artisans, you name it.
>russophobiaYAS QUEEN, don't listen to those evil russphobic cis scum, they don't even respect xirs pronouns!
>>531198450>We here in the WestWhy did you choose Spanish flag vpnigger? Everybody knows that European part of "the West" ends at Pyrenees. Iberians, just like rest of Meds, are basically tanned Slavs.
>>531191599>What would need to happen to/in Russia for you to accept it as part of European community?Anon they're a multicultural empire like USA Do you really think they gave a shit what anyone cares about them?
>>531199105I chose nothing. I'm an Englishman. There are millions of us here. In a way, I'm at home here as a kind of 'peripheral European', just as I was with the Russians, and back home in England. You cunts more in the middle of the Continent, too much under the German influence, are all weird and annoying. And that 'Europe ends at the Pyrenees' crap is just tiresome French chauvinism.
>>531191599They can stop invading their neighbours for starters.
>>531195784>>531196366>memeflag stopped posting after accidentally exposing himself as a muslimHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>531191599I want in
>>531198574Aye, he fucked up the map. It should definitely include the Western Ukraine, as well as a certain element in Belorus (scattered throughout the country, though you could perhaps notionally limit it to Grodno and Brest, at least to show it on a map). People whose toes got stood on when Russia climbed to prominence. Most butthurt of all are the Poles, due to their own failed ambition, and the fact that they NEARLY reached the top, taking Moscow in the 1610s. Poles COULD have BEEN Russians, and grown into the great empire. That must be a nagging thing, psychologically, haha. And of course the Balts are terrible - so small that they don't have to really moderate their behaviour like larger, truly sovereign nations might.
>>531191599I'm not afraid of manlets
>>531192762This
>>531200495Nice vpn ivan
>>531191599>What would need to happen to/in Russia for you to accept it as part of European community?same thing they did in early 1800s and in 1945they just need to stay there and not leave like in 1994
> What would need to happen to/in Russia for you to accept it as part of European community?Change from a totalitarian dictatorship to a free democracy.
>>531191599If they didn't drink that much they could be okay I guess. Unfortunately they drink so much they dont even realise that they live almost like thirdworlders.
>>531191599>What would need to happen to/in Russia for you to accept it as part of European community?Total Zigger Death>In your opinion, what would be a sign that Russia if finally potential ally and not another incarnation of Golden Horde?Look at first answer.
>>531191599Not a belter not my borsch
>>531191599Stop invading neighboring countries. Stop sending terrorists and hackers to destroy our infrastructure. Stop threatening nuclear war. Stop meddling in other countries' democratic elections and installing obedient puppets as regimes of those states. Dismantle the illiberal oligarchic system that governs over their country. Pay reparations for the war of aggression in Ukraine and return the stolen children. Publicly execute Vladimir Putin. That would be a good start.
>>531191599>What would need to happen to/in Russia for you to accept it as part of European community? Are you fucking retarded?Don't you remember what they did.Dishonest cunt.
>>531200740>butthurt belterlick clockwork, no matter what people say and no matter the flag you will always be mad at russia because you are just russians in denial
nobody here gives a flying fuck about russia or ukraine, but I guess then you couldn't have your dumb belt meme
>>531201437>austriayou dont even have your own language.
For Russia to be accepted into the European community of nations it would have to embrace Gay Marriage, Pride Parades and Trans Rights. Russia needs to embrace the Rainbow Flag and the Trans Rights Flag then it could be one Western.
>>531191599I don't think croatia, hungary and slovenia belong there, probably not czechia and slovakia eitherromanians are a lot more likely to be unhinged in regards to russia than any of them
>>531201427>Don't you remember what they did.Oy vey.And we'll do it again and again.>European communityFuck off and die.
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>>531191599All of Russia's problems stem from the mismatch between their ambitions and their capabilities. In this they are identical the the United Kingdom. If Britain accepted their status as a "has-been", and became content with becoming a floating Austria - then their country would be a much better place to live.Same with Russia. If they accepted that they are just a trashcanistan with no chance of ever rivalling the USA or China - then Russia would be a much healthier state. But they have body dysphoria as a country, and they can't let it go.
>>531191599>not another incarnation of Golden Horde?I suppose this is the heart of the error. To govern that massive periphery of Europe, you HAVE to in some way take on those traits. The kind of 'nice Russia' you are imagining is just stupidly impossible. In fact, the current regime there is perhaps itself too close to your weird ideal, in how it has slackened and let young gullible Westernising types have too much freedom. Thankfully, a lot of the most dangerous lot from a political and cultural point of view have fucked off abroad to escape the threat of conscription, or just to pose to their Western friends about how they refuse to be 'be part of such a terrible dictatorship' bla bla bla. I know a lot of these people, due to working with them. It's hilarious how they've scattered over the world, to Germany, Georgia, England, Spain, and now they are beginning to feel the pinch as their savings and welcome are running out. It will be amusing to see some of them creep back to Russia, tail between their legs. >>531200790Come on, this is just lazy. Like all the idiots on social media who call me a 'bot' for challenging their stupid official NATO opinions.
>>531191599Is this a butthurt belter self help group where everyone shares their slights and presents their wet dreams that will never happen?Damn, you're such pathetic cunts. Like I can't imagine being male and talking like this
>>531191599>What would need to happen to/in Russia for you to accept it as part of European community? Až táhnou splátky do východu a políbili nám prdel.
>>531201857>If they accepted that they are just a trashcanistan with no chance of ever rivalling the USA or ChinaRussia was fine with being a third wheel as long as the US recognizes them as a partner 20 years ago. The US wanted to balkanize them into a vassal slave like European countries and now we are here.
>>531202048What are you referring to specifically?
>>531201437Switching VPNs won't trick anyone butthurt Ivan. And I know your butt actually hurts unlike mine because you are a massive faggot
>>531201715croaches sent all weapons they could and ass lick Brussels like theres no tomorrow They deserve several nuclear strikes across that chicken winged colony Zlovenians will dissapear from croach blast wave kek
>>531201865You are doing poor job Ivan. Very very obvious. You will be sent to front soon :(
>>531202048>The US wanted to balkanize them into a vassal slave like European countries and now we are here.Bush's Great Chickening Out in Kiev 1991 and things that came later say otherwiseEven the fucking UK wanted to keep the Cold War status quo
>>531201857>If Britain accepted their status as a "has-been", and became content with becoming a floating Austria - then their country would be a much better place to live.THIS is very true. A lot of the strife now with Russia is due to the idiots in the British 'security' services who delude themselves into thinking they're still playing the "Great Game" of Kipling's day. They stir up all kinds of stupid unnecessary agro with Russia. I saw a lot of this firsthand when I lived there. British diplomats and cultural attaches would show off openly about how they were undermining the Russian state. Some were stupid enough to imagine that this was somehow for the greater good, but the more self-aware type knew how cynical it all was. As an Englishman myself, I would like nothing better than for my post-imperial nation to settle down into some kind of neutral Sweden (not the one of today, obbviously, but the one we grew up with), minding its own business, and concerned only with boosting domestic prosperity and order. Instead we look outward, interfering and causing trouble, while our homeland rots from within. Hopefully Rupert Lowe can solve this... However, your analysis fails when it comes to Russia, as Russia CANNOT accept this low status you demand for it. It still remains a massive empire, with the geopolitical concerns that come with that, despite the loss of superpower status. It has been pushed too far back into a corner, but still has too many teeth for this to be something the West can comfortably get away with. Perhaps in a few decades time it will be clear what a horrific mistake it was to push Russia into CHINA's arms liek this.
>>531191599Things I got myself today. It's funny never been into jewelry or watches and both of them are just cheap things under 10 dollars price but yet it's interesting to imagine that today, march 20th, I've started running out of time.
>>531191599That’s the ottoman empire, dipshit.
>>531202170The Russian Federation is to the US what China was in the 70s-80s. They could have opted for winning them over against China which Russia was likely to accept a generation ago.Instead out of hubris and Jewish hatred towards Russians the US wanted to give Russia the Yugoslavia treatment and just subjugate them. Given the situation for Serbia, or even worse Iraq and Libya, it is completely understandable that Russia picked a fight instead of surrendering.As most butthurt belters you have this idea that Russia had a choice when in fact almost everything they have done has been a reaction to hostilities - the same as Iran. There is a lot more at stake if Russia stops giving a fuck like Iran and starts hitting back properly against their enemy (which includes your country and mine).
>>531202644Oh by the way something tells me I'll die at 40. 10 years from now.
>>531202800>vibesI asked for specifics. Not generalities. What specifically are you referring to?
>>531191599Political reform for the better, facing its own past crimes in a manner similar to Germany had to do after WW2, and permanently abadoning imperial mindset. I doubt it will happen without yet another bloody revolution however.
>>531193728maybe it's because you literally can't make a single post or thread without mentioning them
>>531202614>Anglo calls out anglos You literally exposed yourself once again You're not good at this Ivan
>>531202048>as long as the US recognizes them as a partner 20 years agoIt's painful to think back now, and remember all those years when Putin was desperately trying to court them, always 'nashi partnyori', always trying to cosy up to them. Failing to recognise how much people whose great grandparents had been kicked out of the Russian Empire 'Fiddler on the Roof'-style had come to take control of US foreign policy. And with the Western-wide competency crisis, these bastards manipulating the various colour revolutions and so on simply weren't as ABLE as their predecessors when it came to pulling off these stunts. Couple with the disgusting irresponsible attitude towards things on the other side of the planet, that encouraged these kikes to paint Russia constantly as an enemy, purely for use in domestic US politics, to provide a convenient bugbear, not caring that this had real life and death implications in Eastern Europe itself. We have just seen a millions young Ukrainian men, an entire ggeneration, sacrificed on this altar of distractionism and Ashkenazi ethnic grudges.
>>531203347I hate my government. And it's not even correct to call them Anglos any more at all. They're all intermarried with the Jewish financier class now, those at the top. And I hate the stupid jingoism that is too prevalent among the lower orders in England too, that helps the bastards at the top get away with their crimes.
>Butthurt belterThe word only used by niggers.
>>531202800>in fact almost everything they have done has been a reaction to hostilitiesLOL>starts hitting back properly against their enemyLMAO evenremember guys, Putin is CHOOSING to be humiliated and risks his throne because he just has that much restrain and humanity in himself. i really don't understand how retards like you feed themselves.
The butthurt belt is a cope. Just like the 109 countries that kicked certain people did it for a good reason, all the neighbour countries that hate russia do it for a good reason as well.
>>531202614Western Europe just needs to become one country so that they can actually be competitive on a global scale with countries like the USA, China, Canada, Australia, etc. Instead, they’re a bunch of “countries” smaller than Ohio that have like 2 actual industries each.It won’t happen cuz Europeans are retarded, but it’s true.
>>531202589The 90s and 00s had the US invade and bomb more countries than ever as well as expanding NATO. Their hands were full and the US population did not want to fight Russia who was "freed from Communism" or whatever the domestic propaganda was even more so when there were so many other low-hanging fruits out there.Also Russia living a lie throughout the 90s and 00s being wrecked by Jewish oligarchs served the US well while they picked off a lot of sovereign states while the Russians were not being attention that they are obviously tying a noose around their neck.>>531203527Butthurt Belters overlap a lot with Third Worlders. Just replace Whitey and colonialism with Russians and the Soviet Union.
>>531203507At least you tried >>531203645I don't even hate ruskies but i find it funny that they're eager to die in vain
>>531202048>ImplyingBruh we just want them to trade with us instead of China and to stop trying to make socialism a thing. The fact the Soviet parasite still running their government can't accomplish that much tells us we need to scrub the last bits of the USSR out of them before they can be trusted to run their own country.
>>531202614>Russia CANNOT accept this low status you demand for it. It still remains a massive empireIf the territory (frozen wasteland and bogs) itself decides about it, then Canada should develop a global superpower mindset. It doesn't.Multi- national empires died in early XX century for many reasons, not just because of the war and Versailles Treaty. It didn't work anymore. And if the territory itself (the most of it being frozen wastelands and bogs) decides about empire mindset, then Canada should also larp as one. It doesn't.
>>531194504>According to official Russian history Russia never attacked anyoneChecks out.
>>531191599>What would need to happen to/in Russia for you to accept it as part of European community?dissolve Pederationgive up nukes pidors keep Mosow, Petersburg and the land between them release all the small turkic/asian nations from under pidor boot Chechnya, Dagestan, Tuva, Altai, Bashkortostan, Buryatia, Chuvashia, Ingushetia, Kalmykia, Karelia, Komi, Yakutia, Tatarstan, Udmurt, Khanty-Mansy and others become separate countriesthen we can talk
>>531191599Russhits could stop invading, destabilizing, spreading mass disinfo propaganda and threatening to nuke everyone around them for starters.
>>531191599Kill the media campaing against Russians and your porblem goes away.>>531192892What a stupid take from NAFO-member.
>>531191599Stop behaving like retards, stop all this imperial larp and try to total control all bordering countries no matter under what sauce you present it. Russia is European but your brain-dead government and propaganda always throughout time says you're "different" "have your own way" "Eurasian identity(lol wtf?)" all of this just to cope and pretend you're greatest and better. All russian identity revolves around to undermine everyone else so you will stand out as better, you are not trying to better yourselves and only complain. ffs your empire collapsed twice and now you're on the verge of the 3rd implosion just to "own" westerners, get your shit together and don't be nonce. People here don't hate russians as a nation or culture but because some of you are behaving like you own everyone and masters
>>531193967Soviet Union is not Russia you dumb fuck. Go back to school, kid. How embarrassing to see finnish flag to write something this ignorant. Soviet Union was led by Ukrainian jews and jews from the pink zone. You should know all this, but apparently you don´t.
>>531191772This retard cannot even fathom that millions of poles are ethnic russian
>>531204824Hello Igor, why did you flee russia? Why are you continuing to simp for your former country? Stockholm syndrome?
>>531203796Hey Ivan, check out below how real Spanish think and find a rope for yourself already:>>531203645God bless brother
>>531204284>release all the small turkic/asian nations from under pidor boot Chechnya, Dagestan, Tuva, Altai, Bashkortostan, Buryatia, Chuvashia, Ingushetia, Kalmykia, Karelia, Komi, Yakutia, Tatarstan, Udmurt, Khanty-Mansy and others become separate countriesA good example of how the butthurt belter is just an emotional white nigger. Vast territory under European control should be lost because some loser revanchist polack can't get over the fact his ancestors lost to Russia.
>>531191599Everyone is an enemy, including myself. I don't care what happens.
>>531191599either you're an immigrant, VPN or plain uneducated if you're dumb enough include ex-unaffiliated countries in your belt but don't include Romania and Bulgaria
>>531204824>Kill the media campaing against Russians and your porblem goes away.>Kill political opposition and you get national unity >Kill protesters and there is peaceokay stalin
>>531191599i want to say that the czech republic has no ploace in the butthurt belt because they are the slavs if slavs didn't piss themselves.
>>531204999The name and the flag is different, literally everything else is the same. You are the one who got all his history lessons from kremlin propgandists/russian revisionism
>>531205023>ethnic russiantop kek
I still don't understand why we, the Finns, always ally with the weak West and end up suffering time and again in wars. Isn't it time to change history and try diplomacy instead of war? Personally, my family has been fighting against Russia for almost a thousand years, and there is no end in sight. 1...2...3 Hybridikeskuksen botit aktivoituvat xd
>>531193240Poland needs to give back land to Germany under the same precedent.
>>531205056this is to make sure pidor doesn't get any imperial ideas againjust like the germans who needed a thorough ass fuckign to change their mentalityso do pidors need one
>>531203796>The 90s and 00s had the US invade and bomb more countries than ever as well as expanding NATO NATO "expanded" for a reason. Living in a close proximity to Russia, not to mention being under USSR for 60 years, does that to people.In fact, NATO raised objections against post- soviet countries joining the alliance in 90s, namely because of soviet infestation in power structures and major differences in military equipment.
>>531193943Yes brother, only fuck you direct family or you risk miscegenating your precious white genes
>>531205239>NATO "expanded" for a reason
>>531205192I would rather see Poland and other belters become General Government again.
>>531195218>international community >doesnt participate in the conquering of PersiaPaper tiger.
>>531205319and I would rather see you made into a danish sausage by muslims
>>531198574Austria is an Islamic state.
>>531202614>you are right when applying this logic to the rotten west>but the exact same logic is different when applied to russki mirOikophobic double standard. Liberals are very good at this, and they retain the tendency even after becoming third wordlists.
>>531191599NAFO reservation
>>531192762>Give all the land they stole, And what land were stolen?>Baltics,Lands of Latvia and Estonia were literally bought for 21 tons of silver in 1721. For centuries Russia have been developed these lands. They want freedom? Let them return all these resources.>Finland, And what about them? Karelia and Eastern Finland were part of the Novgorod Republic when Finland did not yet exist. By the way, it was Russia who gave vast autonomy and statehood to Finland.>Moldova, Are you talking about Transinistria, monkey? People just didn't want to live in gypsy Reich. What's your problem?>Georgia,South Osetia is not Georgia, Abkhazia is not Georgia too. So fuck off.>UkraineA joke non-country. All land of this shithole were acquired and developed by Russia. For example, left bank of Dnepr (together with Kiev) was bought for 350k rubles in 17th century, All other parts were gatheredin 18th, 19th and 20th century. Modern 'Ukraine' got everything for free and dared bark at Russia,>Kaliningrad needs to be given back,That German's payment for WWII.>>531193967>Sounds reasonableAt first you should take responsibility and face justice for joining Hitler, for blockading Leningrad that caused hundreds of thousands civilians starve to death, for concentration camps in Karelia for civilians, then pay reparations for your crimes and become neutral country again.
>>531205239>NATO "expanded" for a reason.It was a decision made by the owner of NATO - the US. Nothing else matters, the US could have just said no and that's it. From there I've already dived into the fact that given the situation the US is now with China, they should have reconsidered making Russian an enemy instead of keeping them neutral.I guess fighting a two-front war with Russia and Iran right now while Chinese grow their already far greater industry than anybody else to newer heights was a great decision by the US and for Western civilization.
>>531191599>a sign that Russia if finally potential allyA smoldering glass plain from moscow to Vladivostok
>>531205540>in the year 671 A.D., the Great Kniazh Pidorovich...the eternal imperial kacap and his stories
>>531205239To be honest we have been always pawns for Sweden against Russia. Karelians who are orthodox sided every time with Russians against western Finns. Atleast Karelians have their traditions and religion when we Finns lost our culture and religion to globalism. Now west is supplying is with endless horde of niggers and decadence.
>>531205540>joining HitlerRussia did it first
>>531204128>CanadaA stupid analogy. Canada has a very unusual situation where it can just let the USA worry about everything really important, and has the luxury to devote its time to idiotic social experiments at home.God, this 'not like the others' captcha is fucking annoying.
What blew up today? Desperate russians on vpns going apeshit again.
>>531205709If the land was bought, why should it be given away?If you don't care, you can return Bialystok, then Silesia, Pomerania and part of Eastern Prussia.>>531205835>no uThe thing that you just fucking switched sides in 1944 do not relieve you of responsibility.
>>531205458Britain has options that Russia hasn't, due to the very different geography.
>>531191599TZD is necessary i'm afraid
>>531206014>The thing that you just fucking switched sides in 1944 do not relieve you of responsibility.Same could said about russia. Or did you forget that USSR was allied with Nazis until things soured up. In fact you were allied with Nazis longer than Finland ever was.
>>531206130Bitch, please.In 20th century you fount Russia/Soviet Union 4 times. And only in 1939-1940 Russia was the aggressor. And even in that case you were proposed a peaceful solution with land exchange. So fuck you. You want to bring the past that much? Fine, there are plenty of your sins.
>>531205540Russians sound more reasonable for me than westerners. Funny how time flies :D When i was young, i was blinded by pointless nationalism and hatred for Russians. Fast forward : Helsinki is full of niggers and media still trying to keep up hooked in fake patriotism and hostility against neighbour. We got even special status in Russian empire but people will never learn whats good for them. Every century we are repeating mistakes and imo we should change our modus operandi before we're completely annihilated.
>>531194504>According to official Russian history Russia never attacked anyonewhere is this official Russian history?only in the last few years was some sort of standard book released for schools, instead of there being dozens of them, some of which barely touched WW2 subjectbesides, USSR's history books ignored certain events in order to prevent animosity within not only USSR but also within Warsaw Pact countries>All wars were purely defensive. It became biggest country in the world by the power of friendship.it doesn't matter what Russia did or didn't do, what Russia does or doesn'tjust look at recent British polls, where like 80% of citizens think Britain played the biggest role in defeating Nazisand you want Russians or anyone with a brain and a bit of knowledge to take British seriously?it also shows that history is heavily politicized and used by current elites in order to push certain narratives against their main geopolitical rivalsthis of course includes Polandbecause how else would they support the proxy war in Ukraine, US "missile defense shield" (which can host offensive mid range nukes), huge military spending), etc., if they liked Russia?it is so obvious
>>531205540Fixed your shitty revisionism meme
>>531206339Russia is always aggressor or have made a reason for pre-emptive defence.
>>531205952Projection. Why would a Swiss person even care about eastern Europe? Just mind your own business and "neutrality"
>>531204824>hiding in Finland when he could just go and live in the land of his dreamsVery common and always unsurprising.
>>531205640>It was a decision made by the owner of NATO - the US. Nothing else matters, the US could have just said no and that's it. Ivan you have no fucking idea how it does work. Poland STRUGGLED to meet the requirements and get the membership, while post- commie puppets retards like Walesa tried to either delay or sabotage the process.At the same time there was a poll in 1997, 90% of population wanted it.
>>531191599Balkanization of Russia is a non-negotiable pre-requesite
>>531202011Lol are you pajeet with translator? Your text is so bad
>>531206516C'mon study history.. Just type "Suomen sodat" in Wikipedia and you'll learn pretty fast that we have been attacking them in the past under Swedish rule.
>>531206516If Russia is aggressor, why russian population of Vyborg disappeared in 1918, when finns captured this town?Why you tried to invade Karelia in 1921?Why your troops invaded soviet Union in 1941, blockaded Leningrad?You just a brainwashed stupid chukhnya.>>531206512So you're denying that Finland principality had much more freedom then the rest part of Russian empire?
>>531206871And why did we do it? Of course, in defence of Finnish people.
>>531206953By that logic it would be acceptable to wipe out the butthurt belt.You know, for defense purpose.
>>531206876If you wonder why anonymous boards are nowadays full of stupid war mongering "Finns" they're probably paid or even worse, non-Finnish niggers paid to shill for foreign interests.
>>531207111Russia has been trying. That's why russia has to be pre-emptively balkanized.
>>531206732>and get the membershipFrom who? The US. Which was my point. It doesn't matter if 40% of Poles wanted it or 99%, no US decision-maker care about Poland. What mattered was the US decision to antagonize Russia by expanding their military to Russian borders and push them towards China-leaning. In hindsight it was a mistake.
>>531201437>butthurt beltPersonally I like it. Piłsudski's "Intermarium" sounds way too pompous for the international english and the name serves it's purpose. Those countries form a vertical belt and are very butthurt because of what ruskies have been doing.
>>531194504>But seriously, in case of Russian Federation it's hard to tell if 2 wars in Chechenya was crossing the line, or if it started with Georgia in 2008.let's seeso Russia lets Germany reunite, disbands Warsaw Pact, lets 1/3 of its good territory secede, including that were part of Russia for 300 years, along with 20 million Russians, withdraws bases and forces from Germany in 1994 and elsewhereUS suddenly has no archenemy, and it can do whatever it wants anywherenow what if I told you that Russia was still considered an enemy to them even after all this, because it is still too big, resourceful and had nukes?what if I told that they wanted to balkanize Russia further?but of course they cannot do it directly because of the said nukesthey need to exploit Russia's ethnic diversity in certain regions and bring fighters from abroadwhat fighters?the same ones US sponsored to fight USSR in Afghanistanwho after 1994 when Afghani regime fell, found themselves without workwhich were then moved to Russia's South and order to create Caucasus Emiratesit's a long story, but the main thing here is that wars in Chechnya did not start without foreign intervention and sponsorshipwith the goal being further and final balkanization of Russia>or if it started with Georgia in 2008.as for this, even EU's own 2009 official report blamed Georgia for starting the warit is the same playbook like in Ukraine: 2003 coup installed a puppet regime, then a puppet regime tried to solve the breakaway region problem by force which had official Russian peacekeepers, making it an attack on Russiait was a sort of mini practice for the West before doing this in Ukraine
>>531207156Says russian hiding conscription, or some sort of turdie
>>531191599It's not a phobia, I can explain!
>>531205239>>531205798And to be fair we probably did one of the most damaging campaigns, not only to Russia but to Sweden as well, when Karl XII invaded them.
>>531192762>memeflaggot.>opinion.Lmao show flag first then talk you vagina.Also:>wants an empire to kneel so he can feel validated.I hope the russians obliterate your swamp nation, whatever it is.
>>531207181In your wet dreams.You will pay for crimes. And I will see your countries burn and your children die.
>>531206666Why would a Finland flag defend russia on the internet? Quite satanic.
>>531207342Lol. Russia is such a shithole it won't be able do a shit
>>531191599Why does this OP pic get posted so often? Perhaps someone's... butthurt?
>>531207342Never give an inch to these rats, all of the weaker non-nations in the balkans used NATO to fuck us and steal our lands and they still rage at us 24/7, they will never be satisfied as they all hsve inferiority complexes.So NEVER give them anything, in fact you should literally enslave them all.
>>531206953Ah yes, defending the proto-globalist Swedish kingdom. Those were pointless wars, nothing to be proud of. Are you willing to go back burning churches and pillaging towns in mainland Europe for the Swedish glory?
>>531207252>Piłsudski's "Intermarium"This thing has always been hilariously ironic from the Poles. Wanting their little Warsaw Pact where they get to be "big Russia" while seething when they were in the Warsaw Pact where Russia was the top dog.
>>531206871Don't google Isoviha or Pikkuviha, your narrative might crumble
>>531207540I'm sometimes surprised Sweden and Finland has as good of a relationship as we do considering history.
>>531207540And you are defending globalist russoid subhuman kingdom currently in process of pointlessly burning churches and pillaging in Ukraine.
>>531207260>as for this, even EU's own 2009 official report blamed Georgia for starting the warAs for this, EU in 2009 was high on reset with Russia, while the country with major political influence over the EU institutions simped for Putin.Polish german puppet Sikorski announced at that time that Russian Federation will likely NATO in a short time horizon.He also advised Ukrainian protesters in 2013 to surrender so they won't be brutally murdered.Damn, I wish I could see face of this alcoholic when NS2 was blown up.
>>531207268Klassinen ryssittely alkaa heti :D mee sä hakkaa päätäs sinne Karjalan mäntyy niikun esi-isäsikin teki. Vai olisiko ehkä fiksumpaa muuttaa historian kulun, niin ettei aina otettais käskyjä monikansallisilta tahoilta vaan keskityttäisiin tän Euroopan takapajulan kehittämiseen?
>>531191599But they want to include Russia and Putin wants to joinThe "problem" is that Russia doesn't want to lick USA's dick like Goymany, they want to be treated fairly>>531192892They vote dumbfuck
>>531207682Any potential anti-Swedish hate is stifled to protect the fennoswedes, they are simply bättre folk and deserve all their privileges.
We should be removed from the butthurt belt and replaced with Ukraine. We aren't a part of this retarded club.>>531192762You aren't a part of Europe. You are a part of the EU, but not Europe.
>>531207809Semmonen kotiryssä taas ilmaantui. Harmi ettei enää nykyaikana saa viedä saunan taakse, mutta ehkä tulevaisuudessa.
>>531207442Do not worry, you're turning into shithole too.Would be funny to see niggers rape your wife in helsinki and arabs cutting your throat.But yes, Russia is biggest threat for you./sarcasm
>>531207809omg ano turtiainen, mitä jätkä :DD onko moskovassa kivaa
>>531208006>Would be funny to see niggers rape your wifeAh, classic russian cultural practices. You forgot your state mandated gayrape.
>>531207662Swedish forces abandoned Finland, especially Ostrobothnia (pohjalaiset were loyal to Swedish king) thats why they got the Roman treatment for trying to keep fighting against occupying Russian troops using sissi-tactics while hiding in civilian areas. Wonder why other parts of Finland didn't get that treatment at the time? Btw im from Tervajoki i know isoviha pretty well.
>>531208019Ano turtiainen on Venäjän shillaaja kuten Janus P. Mä olen vaa lukenut historiaa;)
>>531207885If I was prime minister of Sweden I would push for a Nordic military union since I know if Russia ever attacked, Finland would be first. If we were in a union it would give us a good reason to join and help defending.
>>531207242>What mattered was the US decision to antagonize Russia by expanding their military to Russian bordersIf it was what really did matter, then there would be no obstacles and no required initiative from governments in the countries.Keep in mind that Poland WANTED to have a part of the NATO missile defense installations in its territory, but in 2009 the mentally ill baboon Obongo suddenly changed plans and cancelled the project. The main problem with the US is that it DIDN'T try to antagonize ruskies while it should.
>>531208146yes yes russia was the nice guy even when committing genocide. I'm sure all the raping and pillaging and kidnapping could've been negotiated.
The tragedy of Europe lies in the fact that Russia and Putin are a complete, insane group. They are not even obsessed with making money like China, which is consumed by the economy.
>>531208249If EU undergoes a big crisis and splits, then a nordic union seems like the best option. Or maybe JEF which has nordics, baltics, UK and a few others as members.
>>531207260So much for opinions of any EU institution on anything related to Russian Federation in late 2000s.Under management of those retards, Frontex in 2016 was reduced to barely functioning tiny office with a handful of office drones.
>>531208542Honestly I would love to ditch Germany at any moment from EU. They are the source of our problems to begin with within.
>>531205540By developed you mean ransacked, stole, killed and fucked us out of centuries of economic development. Fuck you and your occupation you subhuman piece of shit
>>531207682>considering history.History to the vast majority of NPCs is whatever they were told in school and by the TV. And they are not told the whole story obviously, only what benefits our Jewish elites.
>>531208475Nice to see that someone seemingly far removed understands the situation so well. You speak the truth and I salute you for it
>>531191599Rewrite history
>>531207659>Wanting their little Warsaw Pact where they get to be "big Russia" while seething when they were in the Warsaw Pact where Russia was the top dog.nigga what
>>531191599It would probably help if Russia gave a 1 trillion banan reparations to each of those countries.
>>531191599>russophobicHahahahahahahahaha.........Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHthanks for the laugh mr.putin its been a while since my sides hurt from a good chuckle
>>531206063>Britain has options that Russia hasn't Like what?
>>531208475theyre not insane, youre a nato faggot, irrelevant one now, china owns that whole area youre small and your military is just fodder, figures on paper
>>531191599>butthurt belters>European communityHeh
>>531191599butthurt belt is much smaller, slovakia, hungary are not part of it, czechia, slovenia and croatia not sure, but if anything they're bandwagoning. ukraine and russia are the exact same thing and it's becoming more apparent the longer this dumb war goes on. stubborn fucks.
>>531207682Stockholm syndrome i guess? You literally split our nation with Swedish speaking "bättre folk" and left over illiterate peasants who didnt speak Swedish were proto zogbots for your stupid wars.
We don't care
>>531207684Not defending Russia as a country. I just dont like to continue hatred for stupid historical reasons and to be used by western overlords against them
End ideological subversion / active measures, which we know are occurring beyond any shadow of a doubt, and make efforts to reverse it
>>531191772>nice VPN, ivan
>>531206339The land you offered was useless wilderness. Meanwhile you wanted strategically important Karelian isthmus, which contained Vyborg, small islands in Gulf of Finland and our access to arctic ocean. We never wanted the war but you had to start it. You ziggers don't have an ounce of accountability.
>>531206876>If Russia is aggressor, why russian population of Vyborg disappeared in 1918, when finns captured this town?The same reason the Balkan nations deported all the Turks when they became free of the Ottoman empire. You cannot allow a foreign population loyal to another nation to exist within your nation.>tried to invade Karelia in 1921?Finns even in independence were opposed to Bolshevism and wanted it removed from power much like many of the disparate groups in Russia that made up the White Army. There Where else were the going to invade into to do that? Eastern Siberia? >Why your troops invaded soviet Union in 1941, blockaded Leningrad?2 years prior to that, your nation staged a false flag, used it to stage an invasion and used it to seize some Finnish territory that left Helsinki exposed to potential attack. By seizing the initiative and swiftly occupying your land they negated that exposure as now they held favorable terrain for defense again. Moreover it's notable to recognize that Finland STOPPED attacking and instead negotiated a ceasefire which made Germany very angry and ended up returning even the territory stolen as a result of the Winter War. The goal of Finland in the Continuation was to secure Finland until the war could be ended.
>>531191599Putin has to end is presidency and allow free elections WITHOUT assassinating his political opponents or sabotaging their political campaigns. Also, returning land back to Ukraine, the Baltic states, Georgia and many others. Russia can keep the Muslim lands unless they were originally European and Christian
>>531208146Vitun kotiryssä painu helvettiin mun kotikunnasta.
>>531191599I'm very generous.Just remove Putin and his mafia, renounce to imperialistic aims, and start cooperating with Europe and embrace democratic values.Let's rape the USA together. Eurasia alone has the right, the might and light to lead the world.
>>531191599TOTAL RUSSIAN FEDERATION DISSOLUTION
>>531191599Give back Karelia, get rid of pootin, stop attacking neighbors.
>>531191599>Russia if finally potential ally and not another incarnation of Golden Hordestart with turning back time and rewriting history
>>531209994>Putin has to end is presidency and allow free elections WITHOUT assassinating his political opponents or sabotaging their political campaigns.At this point that would leave only totally- not- Putin clones like Medvedev and maybe Girkin lol
>>531191599If they nuke Poland and switch to Latin script.
>>531209234sounds like a retarded bipolar ex girlfriend
>>531191599It will have to stop being Russia
>>531195784>but le russia killing 2 million whites is a-ok!
about what it would take for you to accept trans women as genuine women,
>>531194504>This is tough one, because it's just hard to see where "democratic rule" starts in place like Russia.people get their opinions from MSMin places like US, France and others, MSM is controlled by less than a dozen of very rich individualsthey and social media owners have the ability to influence people's opinion about certain candidateswhat happens if they all agree on one candidate and want him elected?is this democracy?or this select few elites being able to influence the masses?it is obvious that democracy cannot exist without media pluralityand when a group of people have this power, control most of social media, etc., and form a consensus, they become more dangerous than any autocratic or communist statesbecause citizens of such countries are aware of censorship, but citizens of democracies think that their media is free and independent, where in fact it isn'tand they think that they have ability to choose a rulerwhat's even more funny and sad is that in a number of cases a candidate promises one thing, but does the opposite, and people have no way to kick him out without waiting for 4-5 years (except colorful revolutions sponsored by the usual suspects)we saw this with Italian PM regarding migrants, with Trump promising to end wars, we saw with Zelensky promising during campaign to make a deal if it would prevent a single death, etc.this is just another democracy trickin US you have zero chances without joining either of the 2 parties, and if you are outsider, you hundreds of millions of dollars for your campaign to have a chanceand of course, if this all doesn't work and some outsider miraculously wins or is winningelection results will either be cancelled (Romania elections), rigged (US 2020 elections, Moldova EU referendum), candidate banned (France and others), or candidate even assassinatedChina is a prime example showing that you don't need a democracy for the country to essentially rival the US in economy or tech fields
>>531195784it's just like muzzies kvetching about crusaders. 3/4 of those would not have happened if you only kept to asia where you belong
>>531192762The Moldovan land is a breakaway and not under Russian control. The Georgian breakaway regions like Abkhazia (or whatever) are a different group anyway. These easterners need to be locked into their own containment zones.
This man was very close to get Russia in EU. Sadly, american fags had stop berlusconi with fake financial crisis
>>5311915991. apology2. Give back our land3. Revert to Christianity (Catholic)4. Use Latin alphabet
>>531191599Russians are Slavs, which automatically make them Europeans, whether there like it or not.
>>531211144>China is a prime example showing that you don't need a democracy for the country to essentially rival the US in economy or tech fieldsand have a successful country and societyWest likes democracy in other countries because they can do regime changes, install puppets without military interventionswhich they then can use to extract resources or use them to fight their main geopolitical rivals such as Russia either directly or by proxy>As for this, EU in 2009 was high on reset with Russia, while the country with major political influence over the EU institutions simped for Putin.you realize that the same thing the current Georgian government is saying?that it was a provocation by the then Georgian leaderand what matters are facts:1. Russian peacekeepers were in Georgia's breakaway regions since early 90s, everybody knew that they are there, including Georgia2. Georgian leader conducted massive attacks on the breakaway region and these peacekeepers, which is an act of war against Russia3. Russia reacted by fighting a 6 day war with Georgiait doesn't matter that some thing Russia's reaction was disproportionate (they didn't even do a regime change)what matters is 1 and 2EU was not simping for Putin, they just wanted to boil Russia slowly like a frog, not to scare it away, so that Russia wouldn't look for partnerships elsewhere and make certain conclusionsfor example, google Eastern Partnership programafter Cold War, Ukraine was still in Russia's economic zoneso already back then EU wanted to drag all of Ukraine out of Russia's economic zone by making it sign Trade and Association treaty with EU, while refusing to have talks with Russia regarding thisand most importantly EU countries in 2008 were openly welcoming Ukraine into NATOsuch Russia's simps, much wow
>>531212471>>China is a prime example showing that you don't need a democracy for the country to essentially rival the US in economy or tech fieldsIt helps when corporations decide to offshore everything there. China as a nation today was very much built up by Jewish interests often at the expense of the west.
>>531212471this was for>>531207691>Polish german puppet Sikorski announced at that time that Russian Federation will likely NATO in a short time horizon.what he didn't say is that Russia would be balkanized and some pieces joining separately :Deven Stalin asked to join NATO, let alone Putin when he came to powerthis was done in order to confirm their suspicions that this military bloc is aimed against Russia>He also advised Ukrainian protesters in 2013 to surrender so they won't be brutally murdered.99% of the murders happened few days before the coup, 3 months after protests startedlike a third or half of which were police / Berkut killed by gunshot wounds, the same way as protestersand a normal human should ask how did the police get killed and by who?to which there are answers in open sources
>>531209494>Tha Baltic jewKek
>>531212168At least russia would be useful. Hungarians are parasites
>>531191599Not in red, but I'll answerLess aids, muslims and buttsex. They're making the rest of us feel inferior.
25 years ago I thought Russia would completely turn away from communism, embrace their tsarist past and turn into a free market juggernaut that would eventually exert cultural and economic influence upon our countries, tearing us away from the decaying orbit of USA's dying empire with everyone benefitting from it. I was literally stupid enough to believe this lol. Instead though, banan.
>>531192762Show flag pajeet
>>531202644What the fuck is this faggotry?Wrong board?
I want all Russians dead!
>>531212836>It helps when corporations decide to offshore everything there.oh, absolutely!US is entirely responsible for China's success by allowing it to join World Trade Organization in 2001 and for corporations to turn it into their factory, sell them second best technologies for chip productionwhich didn't matter too much until Xi came to power and China started to have aspirations and not always be #2US focused on weakening Russia too muchand by 2020, it was too late to deal with China with sanctions, and they thought they would smother Russia, then surround and turn to Chinaof course China realizes this, and now you understand why China helps Russia in economy and other fields and will not let its economy crash
>>531213906Another slav parasite
>>531202644Try dress up like pic related
>>531207260>now what if I told you that Russia was still considered an enemy to them even after all this, because it is still too big, resourceful and had nukes?There is no point in arguing with butthurt belters.Argue with them inasmuch as you want to perfect your rethoric by showing the lurkers how wrong the butthurt belters are. Russians are considered the enemy for two reasons.1) They are white and have a large and cohese (strongly binded) population;2) They are Christian and have been going through an awakening.You're right that America considers them too big, but they don't consider other countries that are bigger (in population) too big (China, India, Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, Brazil, Bengladesh) or about the same size (Mexico, Japan, Philippines, Ethiopia, Congo, Vietnam, Egypt, etc.)It's because they are white and they are Chirstian. And by the way most Americans have only a slightly negative image of Russia, not a passionate hatred... the jews that rule America with an iron fist however... these hate Russia with everything in their being.
>>531213972>will not let its economy crashIn the long run they don't have a choice in this.
>russophobicvpn russnigg DETECTED
>>531193967>Russia must compensate their undersea cable sabotageDidn't Finnish government literally admit that they were wrong and arrested a random ship over false charges? Shouldn't the crew of the captured ship be compensated instead?
>>531214133>Russians are considered the enemy for two reasons.>1) They are white and have a large and cohese (strongly binded) population;>2) They are Christian and have been going through an awakening.ask yourself what would those who have a dollar printer want from this world?world domination, they want to point at something on the globe, say "I want this" and to get itPutin's Russia is in their way, whose strategic forces is perhaps the only military threat to US mainland (until China catches up)this is the main reasons why Russia is their enemy even in 90syou have to realize that China only recently stood up and became a problembut their economies are too connected to China, unlike between US and Russiaso they chose to deal with Russia first, then they would switch to Chinain the end, they want one world governmentnot to make life better for every human, but for one center to control all of world's resources: oil, brains, metals, energyI mean just look at historyat some point anglosaxons enslaved almost half the planetplenty of European countries had African and Asian colonies, from which they were taking resourcestake a look at Churchill's 1946 speech that started the Cold war, labeled USSR as enemy, and in which afaik he declared that the world must be lead by anglosaxonsit wasn't that long ago, India was a British colony until like 1947European countries had colonies until like 1980they all have their bases and islands all over the world in strategic areasso all these regime changes, wars in countries with oil, even NATO's expansion, it all makes sense and is very logical
>>531216735>false chargesNah, the court decided that they have no prosecution rights over things that happen on international waters. Those international seafaring laws are one fucked up bunch, and the cases like that are supposed to be prosecuted primarily in the flag country of the ship, or international courts.
>>5311915991st, drop the backwards imperialist mindset from 19th century.
>>531217441The fuck do you mean. The cat's out of the bag now, you don't have to defend it anymore since even supo admited defeat >Suojelupoliisin mukaan Venäjä ei ole ollut Itämeren kaapelirikkojen taustalla.>Itämeren pohjassa on viime vuosina katkennut useaan otteeseen sähkö- ja telekaapeleita, kun Venäjältä lähteneet alukset ovat laahanneet ankkuria merenpohjassa.>”Käsityksemme on ollut, että tässä ei ole ollut tahallista Venäjän valtiollista toimintaa taustalla. Tämä on hyvin laajasti jaettu näkemys muussakin eurooppalaisessa tiedusteluyhteisössä”, sanoo Supon päällikkö Juha Martelius Suomen Kuvalehdelle.>Tapaukset on suomalaisessa julkisuudessa yhdistetty laajasti venäläiseen vaikuttamiseen. Todisteita maan toiminnasta ei ole kuitenkaan kyetty esittämään.>they have no prosecution rights over things that happen on international watersSo how come a government can just capture a random ship and force people to stay on it indefinitely over false charges without any reprecussions?
>>531191599They want it to become part of globohomo empire, they want pride parades in center of Moscow, where faggots are fisting eachothers assholes in front of children, they want Putin to come to their red shoes parties where they fuck and eat children. It is safe to say it will never happen. Globohomo is on a downfall, it will soon collapse.
>>531191599>phobicI don't fear them, I just think they're lesser
>>531218140That piece is just about how they didn't manage to find proofs that russia was behind it. Which just means that russians hid their track well this time.>So how come a government can just capture a random ship and force people to stay on it indefinitely over false charges without any reprecussions?Because that's how you get around the bullshit international laws.
>>531191599Federalize so all power isn't concentrated solely in the hands of a single man in the Kremlin. Let regions have more political autonomy and representation a la USA.Become a democratic rule of law country where citizens can participate in politics without fear of getting thrown out of windows or gulaged or having their property taken away. Establish proper constitution and constitutional panel of judges that make sure its being followed.Establish good relations with neighboring states without treating them as former imperial subjects. Project your influence with soft power rather than hard power.
>>531191599Don't bother. Kill them all. The butthurt belters, that is
>>531212341>Russians are Slavsno they are not>automatically make them Europeansno it doesn'tthere's more to being european than fair skin
>>531220131America's president is a literal pedo. What are you smoking nigga?
>>531223693>Genetic studies show that Russians are closely related to Poles, Belarusians, Ukrainians, as well as Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, and Finns.[46][48][49][50]POLAND BTFO! HUMILIATED! POLES ARE JUST SELF HATING RUSSIANS!
>>531191599Russia is literally the biggest country in Europe, even if you exclude Siberia. Butthurt belters are dumb.
>>531191599>What would need to happen to/in Russia for you to accept it as part of European community?I don't even know what you mean, it is part of Europe by definition. Unlike USA. The ones running RUS is still strong, talking comprehensible, while the ones running USA is fat and retarded. Fuck you all.
>>531219877>That piece is just about how they didn't manage to find proofs that russia was behind it. Which just means that russians hid their track well this time.
>>531191599Neither Russia nor any of those countries listed should ever be accepted as Europeans. The world was a much better place when Europe and Eastern Europe (Eurasia) were two totally separate spheres and understood to be two different civilizations.
>>531223830can i see the racial traits on whoever conducted these """""genetic studies"""""?
>>531224021russia is not an european countryit was created by mongols as a state as a race and a civilisationit's an asian country that encroaches europe
>>531224404>the world was a much better place when we betrayed Central Europe in Yalta and handed it over to SovietsIs is Roosevelt posting from hell via an Ouija board?
>>531191599Why are you counting us in the butthurt belt Andrzej?
>>531224594Western civilization = England, France, Italy, Germany etcNot Ukraine, Bulgaria, Moldova, Russia etcEverybody kind of knows this deep down but wants to pretend it’s not true for whatever reason. Only Russians seem to willing to face the fact that they aren’t Western Europeans and are their own thing. The rest of Eastern Europe will not. Nothing against people from Eastern Europe just like I have nothing against people from like China or Japan. It’s just not the same civilization.
>>531224484Lmao Russians and Poles literally look the same.
>>531225340>butthurt belt>Eastern Europeburger burger on the wall, who is dumbest of them all
>>531225456we're not even the same race, ivan
>>531209124China can not even take Taiwan which is too small and weak. South Korea is one of the countries with the largest arsenal of artillery shells and missiles in the world. And China's coastal cities are our primary targets. Furthermore, they are the centers of China's economy. By "Shanghai, Hong Kong, Guangzhou, and Beijing," I mean. If we strike these places, China will be sent back to its days of poverty in the mid-2000s. >>531208707At least you can make a deal with a villain who loves money. Russia is not even that kind of country. Putin is a lunatic who enjoys wars from which he has nothing to gain. If a country like this were right next to yours, you would find it difficult to sleep peacefully. North Korea and Russia are exactly the same in this respect. They immerse themselves in meaningless wars while making their own citizens suffer in poverty.
>>531225340Correct.
>>531225340Just admit that Iron Curtain is literally the only thing you know about Europe in terms of geography and politics.
>>531227089He's not wrong. Poles, for example, until recently were ready to break down into the west and armed Vietnam, pretty much willingly.>but what about the 17th centuryNobody cares.
>>531224404>Neither Russia nor any of those countries listed should ever be accepted as Europeans.>mutt flag
>>531205142so modern finland is the same as nazi finland of the 1940s then ?
>>531207342Reason for shaking?
>>531227355>the world was created in 1945, nothing before 1945 is relevantDamn man, you could pass as a burger with that brain of yours
>>531228381Funnily enough Finland was a province of Sweden before Russia turned it into a country.
>>531224404back when the divide was catholic vs orthodox all the butthurt belters were considered European, if at the very periphery. hell at one point the "Roman Emperor" held court in one of those countries.but one little slip up and they kick you out of the club.
>>531228929funnily enough muscovy was a mongol whorehouse before tatars turned it into a country
>>531228929Romania used to be a province of Ottoman Empire.
>>531191599As far as I'm concerned, all Europeans (and I mean all) are just white shitskins. Period.
>>531229301>MuscovyAlternative history time?
>>531229389Wrong. We were autonomous vassal states paying tribute.
>>531229536big time
>>531207809>>531208019>>531208207kekspurdo fight :DDD
>>531229301Funnily enough there's definitely something wrong with slavs Not even romanians and hungayrians hate each other that much And our main oppressors along history were ottomans and hungayrians
>>531230106russians aren't slavs, they're a mix of volga finns and khazarssure they speak a slavic language and plenty of them are also racemixed with slavs but that does not make them a slavic people
i read thru the thread and just what i suspected: pure niggrishness. i know why those filthy eurofaggots cursed my country with so many low quality afroniggers. the only people on earth who can make eurofaggots look less like niggers are literal savages. i voted for you all to be starving to death by 2028. im a single policy kind of guy.
>>531205023>This retard cannot even fathom that millions of poles are ethnic russianYou could say that a large percent of western Russia are ethnic poles. Google DNA map. Poles go as far as Ural mountains. My grand granma on my father's side were polish. He was a soldien figting in WW1.
Listen up you Mongoloid TardNow that the world is becoming warmer the eastern side of Rus will become much better You should move there on the cheap now before it’s all bought upConsider it a free tip
>>531230626>russians aren't slavs, they're a mix of volga finns and khazarsKekruskies say a similar thing about ukries >sure they speak a slavic languageThat's the main difference between slavs and the rest of people >and plenty of them are also racemixed with slavs but that does not make them a slavic peopleeveryone is a mutt Claiming ruskies aren't real slavs because you don't like them is silly since the word slav is more or less a linguistic term
>>531201020Just like Fico’s Slovakia right?
>>531191599>What would need to happen to/in Russiaa nuclear holocaust that leaves that entire country desolated
>>531230626>sure they speak a slavic languageFor reference: Polish and other west slavic languages, even those used in Belarus and west Ukraine are VERY similar, despite some funny differences and russicisms. But take Russian and suddenly the vocabulary gets completely alien.You just see that there was a major chasm between Central and East Europe over last several centuries.
>>531231922>since the word slav is more or less a linguistic termjidish is a germanic language, does that make jews german?senegalese are francophones, does that make senegalese a fraknish people?same logic applies here
>>531201020Um dude, America's president is a pedophile.
and no, only mutts are muttsup to very recently people kept to their own
Here's how I classify people living in Russia:Europeans: Ethnic Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Finnic People. Moldovans, Germans etc.Asians: Native Siberians. They only make up small percentage of the population. Kinda like Native Americans.Eurasians: Tatars, Central Asians, Chuvash etc.Neither European nor Asians: Chechens, Georgians, Armenians, Jews etc.
>>531230626Dude, Russians and Poles are same people. Poles are slightly more dark skinned.
>>531231600>Poles go as far as Ural mountains.It's Sybiraks exiled to frozen shitholes under Tsar or sent to penal colony under commies.Nobody wanted to go there, ffs.Even the fucking Poklewski who made actual money there, the so- called "Baron of Siberia", hated the place.
>>531232466we've literally nothing to do with one another
>>531191599The butthurt belters don't want that. They want Russia as an eternal enemy and scapegoat because then they won't have to admit that their failures are their own, not because of Russia
>>531191599They'd have to not invade one of their neighbours for more than 30 years. As far as I'm aware this hasn't happened in a millennia.
>>531232059Quite a difference frenchies imposed their language on thirdie niggers Which isn't the case for ruskies as they have slavic blood customs etc...If you go on this path with purity spiraling you end up excluding more slav nations Take czechs for example arguably the most accomplished slavs yet they have more german blood than austriansAre they real slavs or not?
>>531232800What a retarded take. You would die if you had half the russnigger fatigue us "butthurt belters" have.
>>531232473>It's Sybiraks exiled to frozen shitholes under Tsar or sent to penal colony under commies.>Nobody wanted to go there, ffs.>Even the fucking Poklewski who made actual money there, the so- called "Baron of Siberia", hated the place.Shut the fuck up you fucking faggot, I live in Novosibirsk, Siberia. It's a good city with good people, harsh nature of this place builds up character and stoicism. And by the way, slavs who came here, absolute majority of them came willingly, those who were owned by aristocracy could go siberia and become a free man and own the land himself, work for himself and own buisness. Those who lived here, came here for freedom and economic opportunities. This is why Russia in many ways (not all I will admit this) is a free country, and you poles are globohomo slaves.
>>531232921yeah and ruthenians imposed their language on finns after they conquered volga basin>>531233208>good peoplexd
>>531232287Anon,....among the most influential poles there are names like Copernicus and Chopin
>>531232921>Take czechs for example arguably the most accomplished slavs yet they have more german blood than austrians>the most accomplished slavs What kind of gibberish is this? Accomplished in what? Drinking beer?
why do russians do this shit? i can't stop rolling my eyes when i hear russians describing themselves as 'good people', 'forgiving people', 'generous people' etc i've never heard anyone else do that shit
>>531233208>good city with good people>russianJesus, they are not self aware
>>531233378and yet they are very uncommon
>>531233208>harsh nature of this place builds up character and stoicismNo wonder that at some point in life you guys think that signing a contract to become a drone distraction in Ukraine is a good idea.
>>531233271>If you go on this path with purity spiraling you end up excluding more slav nations>Take czechs for example arguably the most accomplished slavs yet they have more german blood than austrians>Are they real slavs or not?Well you haven't answered my question
>>531233566if anything i'd argue austrians are germanized and mongrelized slavs
>>531231949>Fico’s SlovakiaI love being Polish. Nobody says "Tusk's Poland" or "Nawrocki's Poland" because it doesn't make any sense with our political system. It's the best political system. Pure democracy. Totally recommend if you're white.
>>531233271>>531233504>>531233562Very intresting takes from Mykolas who dropped their families in Hrukraine and fled to Poland to clean toilets in Zabka.
>>531233770we aren't a direct democracy, sadly
>>531232811Same with America. or Germany.
>>531233770>Nobody says "Tusk's Poland"Because you are either politically illiterate sperg or you never leave your tiny safe space.I imagine how you screeched when in 2015 it was finally, at last, Kaczyński's Poland. It should've stayed this way, but nooo, you retards had to fuck everything up in 2023.
>>531233849With tens of millions of citizens no state would be.
So let's see:>Ethnic Russians are Slavic Europeans.>Moscow and St Petersburg (their two most important cities) are in Europe.>80% of their population lives in Europe.>Culturally and genetically identical to Belarus and Ukraine.
>>531233385>the most accomplished slavsAren't they the richest slavs?I would say they're more culturally relevant than other slavs when it comes to culture
>>531233770Despite that, Russia is the country with the largest white population. KEK.
>>531233385No way Czech are more accomplished than Russians.Russia is the only relevant Slavic country.
>>531233810>you must be a hohol if you don't like our invasion on hoholandGet on your tactical donkey and go fight the evil imperialism or whatever you call it.
>>531234056they aren't european, they never were nor will they ever bethere's more to europe than having a pale facethere's civilization, culture and history: democracy, chivalry, knights and castles which russia was never a part of
>>531191599All Russians must kill themselves, then the whole country gets repopulated by Ukrainians. At that point the New Kievan Rus can join the EU.
>>531234025>2015>president and pm are both from same partyYes, this is when one side fucks up and has 4-5 years to reconnect with people.
>>531234168Well their criteria is who sold out the best to foreigners so by that metric they're super succesful.
>>531234383Europe is not one culture you dumb retard.What does Iceland and Serbia have in Common?What does England and Montenegro have in Common?What does Sweden and Moldova have in common?Russia is culturally similar to Belarus and Ukraine.
>>531234134>the country with the largest white populationThat will be US of A, unironically.
>>531233958The germans haven't invaded a country for over 70 years, and the US hasn't invaded a neighbouring country for longer if you want to be pedantic. The US hasn't annexed territory from a country in over 120 years either.So no, not the same.
>>531234428Bit rich coming from a country that elected a pedophile as their president;.
>>531234718USA counts Arabs, Jews, Turks etc as white in their census.
Russians and Indians get paid by Jews to make Russian men breed with Indian women to create miscegenated South Wasian Branigger Weeb Untermenschen who will eventually become the next ShitpostRock Anarseldain @cunnyrapist88 account on Twitter
>>531234059>the richest slavs>they're more culturally relevant than other slavs I have no idea what kind of metrics are you using here, but it's a really strange way to put it out. I mean, it sounds like you were from another continent. Or planet.
>>531234859LMAO meanwhile Germany's importing Turks in millions and still cucked to Jews because "muh holocaust".
>>531234705>What does Iceland and Serbia have in Common?>What does England and Montenegro have in Common?>What does Sweden and Moldova have in common?knights ans castles and shit, as stated previouslywhich stems from a common approach to land division which steams from a common, inherent, racial conviction of what a man is, his value and place in society and world in generalmeanwhile russia has kremlins and asiatic mode of production just like other steppe-asiatic countries
>>531234447Show me on a doll where evil Kaczyński has touched you. Are you a konfedematołek or tuskośmieć?
>>531225456russian women >>> polish whores
>>531191599>ctrl + F "beltalowda">0 found
>>531234705>Europe is not one culture you dumb retardso soUntil recently everyone tried their best to emulate the romans and greeks Saint Petersburg was designed by Italian architects Prague became influential due to the ambition of Charles IV to make a new Rome in his native lands
>>531235005there is a reason why to this very day meatwaves remain the favorite military tactic of the russian people
>>531234428>Kievan RusYou DO understand that Kievan Rus is a term that historians made to designate where power and influence of the young slavic state was? Rus people litteraly came to modern day Ukraine from Novgorod, and conquered Kiev. Hohols were slaves and peasants. While slavic/nordic Rurikid dynasty ruled.Or dud you watched a couple honeypot Hollywood production videos from AZOG and decided that hrukranians were LITTERALY VIKINGS N' SHIEET? VIkings litteraly came from the north (Novgorod) and took over the city, and now former slaves are making videos about their "rich viking history" to lure young nationalistic western men to go and fight and die for Uhraina. You are beyond retarded. You knowlage of slavic history is hollywood propaganda level.
>>531235096>Charles IV to make a new Rome in his native landsin lotharyngia?
>>531234813Still, descendants of European migrants in US are 40-50% of 340-350 million people. Ethnical Russians in Russia are around 90 million (of around 140 million).
>>531235053This girl was my fav character in the show. Untill they've made her lesbian polygamous pirate ship captain, and cucked her for her covardly lesbian lover.
>>531235020Bredzisz. Idź już spać.
>>531235096There's something in it.Until XIX century, Italy and France were the main "producers" of "culture" for the continent, from fashion and music to architecture.
>>531234890>I have no idea what kind of metricsYou're playing dumb HDI, GDP Prague being one of the most visited cities in Europe Czech music Dvorak and Smetana etc
>>531235005>which stems from a common approach to land division which steams from a common, inherent, racial conviction of what a man is, his value and place in society and world in generalDon't make me laugh it's not like I don't live in eastern Europe broader and in one of the shitty-ish parts of it.Western Europe is the real Europe. Slavs cannot into proper society (and that includes you).
>>531235216>hrukranians were LITTERALY VIKINGS N' SHIEETNigger, Ukrainians are descendants of bandits from a third of the continent and that particular part of Eastern Borderlands in PLC was a lawless slaughterhouse, but in XVII century it was clear that the genie is out of the bottle, that they aren't interested in assimilation. It's how nations come into existence.
>>531234383I'm not gonna engage in the same tactics as you but having castles isn't a prerequisite for being european
>>531236349not really sicz was completely destroyed and decimated by catherine the great like a decade after cossacs betrayed plc, ukrs are more less descendants of the ruthenians of galicia, wolynia, podolia (often racemixed with russians)
and by decade i mean a hundred years
>>531235560You are talking about a country, not "slavs". Burger race theory doesn't work here.
