I buy 30g winston red Tobacco every day and it increased in price by 150% in 2 years,Why Poland goverment and EU tax my cigarettes and Tobacco to death.And i literally love smoking Tobacco. Smoking is literally Best thing, inteligent people smoke Tobacco , I buy only legal Tobacco beacause i care about quality and don’t want to be poisoned by fakes,Why do Eu fight smoking so much.There are weird laws in some countries that ban people born in 2025 from buying cigarettes for life,And i also didint have to learn to smoke i enjoyed it from the start
>>531196116in canada we call it the "sin" tax
Try to get your hand on imported tobacco.Find a plug.
>>531196116Here cigars and pipe and rolling tobacco are untaxed, only mass produced cigarettes are
>>531196391Its trash compared to bought in store in Poland
>>531196116>>531196425>>531196294Grow it from seed
>>531196735is the tobacco grown in poland? if not it's the same stuff, just untaxed
>>531196116>30g winston red Tobacco every dayTF? Are you eating it like salad? That's like a week's ration for me.
>>531196116because governments really really care about your health
Thank the hags in EU government
Virtually no one buys legal cigarettes anymore in the UK, illegal shops everywhere. It is also why the generational ban will flop,
>>531198579>illegal shops everywhere.how does that work? what are they selling?
>>531196116i buy 2 pound of cut and dried tobbaco directly from farmer for $6 You are all retards, you wont pay $6 but 100% you can get 2 pounds for $30-$50 no problemo.You just wont, cause you are retard.
>>531198733Congratulations. Sometimes life can be ok. But i guarantee you theres a catch
>>531196116I asked for a pack of gpc other day because I recalled people smoking them years ago and they were cheap. They were 15 fucking dollars and I just paid it without thinking because I don't respect money
>>531196116We have shitty cigarettes in Poland, you can get best cigarettes in Belarus. If you’ll be there someday, definitely buy some packs, you won’t regret that. Also smoking kills, switch to nicotine pouches like Velo, wouldn’t be so harmful.
>>531198858Yea, there is, it not 100% lawfull for the guy that sells it but who gives a shit
>>531196116Pueblo is nice.
>>531198672Vapes that are bigger than allowed and cigs that have illegal branding and no safety standards. When real cigs cost almost £20 a pack the illegal stuff takes over. All ran by gangs.
>>531198054There are plantations of Tobacco in Poland >>531198304Its for two people, one pack 30g per day for 2 people
>>531198955Not true i was in belarus and Ukraine and their cigarettes are trash . Polish are 100 times better
>>531198672Illegal brownoids get government funding to open up businesses. It's always some unholy combination of a sweet/vape/energy drink shop which goes out of business after 6 months for another one to take its place.
>>531198672They are selling it without a license. Nobody gives a shit about what the government says.
>>531196116Smoking is even dumber than drinking because you don't even get a noteworthy effect for all of that money you're lighting up all day, every day
>>531196116You wanted EU, you got EU. Enjoy it Polenigger
Smokers die younger, thus saving untold billions in elder care.
>>531199266That too, makes you wonder where the hell they get the money to open these businesses, I know I could never afford to open a shop on my high street and even if I did I would be swimming in red tape.I don't go in any shop that is owned by a non-English person although some of them have gotten clever and now have English staff because they know people like me avoid them otherwise.
>>531196116coming from a heavy smoker->intelligent people smoke tobaccoyeah, this is just massive propaganda. I won't argue over tobacco without anything added but the shit our government sells us is straight poison
You've never tried real tobacco. I did in Asia and it's a completely different thing. The commercial tobacco is washed garbage leftovers. Real tobacco lays you out after one drag and that was the light version.
>>531196116>this shill thread againKill yourself you evil jew scum
>>531198441Im about to visit you. Easy to find black market cigs there?
>>531199126>30g per day for 2 peopleAhh oke. Makes more sense. Still a very competitive amount.>>531199076I used to think that too. After switching to american spirit, pueblo feels like wallpaper paste.
>>531198579All smokers need to just be killed. They are not human, just shoot them>>531198733Kill yourself Jew
I quit a few years ago. I miss it a lot more than drinking, which I don’t miss at all, it was really relaxing. The only real issue with it is that it takes up a lot of your time. Getting older I see the value in spending every minute on a book or something, running away every fifteen minutes for a cigarette wasn’t helping.Ironically it isn’t as bad for your health as they claim. If you eat kosher and drink bottled water you can smoke all you want and you’ll be fine. They want it banned because it detracts from slavery in factory settings.
My dad once had a co-worker back in the 80s I think it was who bought cigs on an Indian reservation to cheat Pennsylvania tobacco taxes until they caught him and sent him a huge bill.
>>531198955>>531199076All smoking is the same shitKill yourself
>>531196116Get seed, grow your own. It's a super easy crop.
>>531197258Nip-anon gets it.
>>531198733You're not in EU so not subject to their bullshit.
>>531199622All that money comes from money launderingThey sneak illegals into the country and funnel that money into the country by hiring these illegals thus making them legalThen they have those people in their businesses perpetuating the scam
>>531199622UK taxpayers. There was a more recent story about this but I can't find it.https://news.sky.com/story/refugees-are-more-likely-to-be-self-employed-in-the-uk-this-scheme-gives-them-business-training-12336740
>>531199824It wasn't the tobacco, it was the additives that is addictive. If you want non-addictive take up pipe smoking with organic home-grown tobacco. https://trueleafmarket.com/search?q=tabaccoFind a local seed provider if you're not allowed to import seeds.
>>531196116PAY. YOUR. CANCER. TREATMENT.
>>531199641Likely you were smoking a [Nicotiana rustica] strain. "Note: Leaves of Nicotiana rustica are extremely high in nicotine and traditionally used for ceremonial, medicinal, or insecticidal purposes. They are not generally recommended for casual smoking."
>>531196116Why don't you make your own cigarettes? I can make a carton of smokes for the price of two store-bought packs.
A pack of 20 cigarettes in the UK costs like £20 for non-poverty brandsWhen I was 16 and people smoking cigs at house parties was a thing it was £5I don't smoke a lot but I just buy airport bricks to keep me over
>>531196116>Tobacco and cigarettes tax to deathgood>Why do Eu fight smoking so muchbecause of socialized healthcarewe all pay taxes for health servicesso we have a say in what you do to your own bodywhen you get lung cancer, what will you do?go to government hospital, doctor doctor save me pleaseand they will treat you for my tax money so fuck you, I hope they ban tobacco entirely
>>531197258I've been growing it for a few years, but processing the leaves is a pain. Also hard to get started but the plants are super nice. You'll find dead bugs all over them as they don't know landing on the plant = instant deathFUCK HORNWORMS btw
>>531199622>>531199266They want to legalise their stay this way by opening the business then when they legalise they close it most kebabs here do this
>>531196116Stop complaining, how expensive can it be? We have to pay 8 EUR for a pack of tobacco, I bet you don't even have to pay half of that.
>>531196116I quit smoking 8 months ago. Cigarettes are bad for you
>>531198352Nicotine cures SARS/covid>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7836994/"COVID-19 positive patients who smoke are more often asymptomatic or exhibit less severe respiratory symptoms than non-smokers.">The macrophages, which are directly infected by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, may drive the cytokine storm in the lings.Stimulation of macrophage ACh receptors by nicotine inhibits pro-inflammatory cytokines production and inflammatory response.>The nicotine use may lessen or eliminate ARDS in the smoking COVID -19 patients.
>>531201488Nicotine kills intestinal parasites that make you gay
>>531199891Its funny because fake cigarettes avoid taxation and here in Poland its tax crime so its hardcore punisment and they count every cigarette as they Were sold legaly and then they say you stole milions in tax. And tax crimes Punish the most>>531201099I bet most cigarette smokers paid more tax than you by your whole life so shut up
>>531201689cigarette smokers should be banned from public healthcare
>>531201768Then its not public idiot
>>531201663the neurotropic and detoxifying aspects are also highly beneficial, hence nicotines classification for medical uses - it can also help with alzheimers
>>531201689>>531201768can both of you faggots shut the fuck up and kiss already
>>531196116QUIT NOW>Dont let them tax you to DEATH !this message helped me quit. i resented giving money to the people that hate me.
>>531196116Smoking is based. I can't afford it anymore, went to vape only. Not the same, but it's all I can afford now.
>>531196116>Smoking is literally Best thing, inteligent people smoke Tobacco ,The only people I know who smoke are trailer trash
>>531199119ah i see. nice. what do you pay for a decent pack in a place like that?>>531199266>>531199449i see. at least you can get reasonably priced cigs. we have the stores on the res for that too.
>>531199759Which American spirit though? The blue one or the yellow?
>>531196116>winstonA true connaisseur
>>531198672 Our best chugs run online stores where you can simply order them. It's 25-30 leafbucks per carton.
>>531199641modern commercial tobacco is leftover clippings treated by ammonia gas
>>531204494yeah looked at those. i pass a res with some stores and keep meaning to pick up a few different kinds to see what they're like
>>531199824Cigarettes are terrible for you lol. I feel 1000 times better than I did when I smoked. You also smell like shit, but you can't smell it. That said, it is pretty great. I switched to Velo last year because the state added some retarded Chicago-tier tax increase to cigarettes where Marlboros are 15 bucks a pack. I quit the day it went into effect. I went from a pack a day to maybe 1 can of Velo every 3 days.
>>531196116Every day? Nigger do you even breathe air?
>>531198955Snus literally destroys your gums you inbred retard
Cigs are the worst trash ever forced into human behaviour. Go die soon you dumb pole
>>531196116tobacco did nothing wrong kikes. you just want men to be dykes
>>531196294>in canada we call it the "sin" taxThank god we kept some of these fellas around to sell us smokes at reasonable prices.
>>531196116There’s zero incentives to lower the tax:1. People stop smoking, society saves money by reducing cancer and CVD rates.2. People keep smoking, the government makes more money from tax incomes.From this one can predict tobacco taxes will keep going up, unike alcohol which only require some sugar and yeast tobacco is actually difficult to make yourself, so there’s no ”pressure valve” that prevents taxes from going up.
>>531198579It's not as bad. Is nicotine a drug? It is. Should it be treated as such? It should be.>>531201663The more you know. Is that why people who quick start acting all sassy about it?
>>531196294there are dozens of sins to tax. alcohol, chocolate, sugar, chocolate, meat, plastic and so on. if you only have one sin tax, you are lucky.
>>531196116> i literally love smoking Tobacco. Smoking is literally Best thing,I can relate.> Poland goverment and EU tax my cigarettesMaking your own cigarettes costs only 1/3. Buy an OCB tamping machine. No electic one, no cheap one. Only the real deal: OCB.With OCB machine it's zero effort and result is 1:1 the same as bought.
Also Pennsylvania is a fag state that requires you to be 21 to buy cigs, although they do let you smoke in bars.
>>531202107Nobody is going yo believe your lies, JewFick off and die>>531205957Smoking only exists because of Jews, like you, pushing itKill yourself
>>531207296Kill yourself Jew >>531207402Thats horrible
>>531196116Because organic unsprayed hand-cut tobaccy is unironically good for your health.The lung damage is caused by the pesticides used in growing the plant, and by the chemical additives used to emulsify the leaf after it's gone through a shredder.The other chemical additives also increase risk.The more chemicals you add, the more things carbonise in combustion and create the acidic tar that causes the cancers.But tobaccy itself doesn't do this.Oh one more thing.The nicotine receptors aren't in the lungs, they're in the mouth.Tobacco is for tasting, not breathing.Whenever some kid does the deep inhale thinking he's cool, laugh at him, and weep for his medical bill.
>>531207577These same Jewish lies again Kill yourself
>>531196116How about you stop smoking, dont get the appeal of paying to get cancer. You could reinvest your pack of fags into a gym subscription.
>>531207210How are the cigs in Legoland?
>>531207577>The nicotine receptors aren't in the lungs, they're in the mouthLmao.> Whenever some kid does the deep inhale thinking he's cool, laugh at him, and weep for his medical bill.Sure, kiddo.
>>531207296>>531207577Thanks guys. Shills out in force so you know this is a great thread.
>>531196294>>531207210Tobacco use is not a sin therefore it is an error to call a tax of it a sin tax. It does not disturb the faculty of reason. Nicotine, caffeine and other stimulants are explicitly not sins when not used for hedonism and fail to meet the criteria of them from the definitions. When people lose the ability to see what sin is, they fall into error. The Mormon heretics hold caffeine as a sin but using reason one cannot see how this can be so. Whether something is sinful or healthful is a sepetate category entirely. Someone can smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day and be dead at 45 yet will still go to heaven and not be judged by God for having done it. It is a secular perversion to call nicotine a sin and often is rooted as cope to excuse actual mortal sins like fornication. Other substances are a sin if reason is disturbed. Alcohol and cannabis are primary examples. They make people forget reason and God.
>>531207296what about pipe tobacco
>>531208742>>531207818>>531207732>n-n-no goyim, don't increase your testosterone by smoking healthful masculine tabacco, use Goldstein brand Vape Juice instead!!!
>>53119611630g every day, nigga what, do you eat it?
>>531207296Seeing the people who buy those boxes over here, no thanks.
>>531209036Cannabis helps me appreciate His works more. I waked and baked while listening to music from the shire this morning, and it felt as if Im just a lil bilbo in life, toking next to this great giant bearded fellow. It's a kind feeling.
>>531209036its a sin against the Holy State by, they say, costing more to run the shitty State medical system. thats all.
