Iranian missile defense systems successfully hit stealth F-35
>>531197396>The F-35 Lightning II program is the most expensive weapon system in history, with total life-cycle costs projected to exceed $2 trillion (in "then-year" dollars) through 2088. Acquisition and development costs constitute over $442 billion of this total, while the vast majority covers long-term sustainment and operating expenseshttps://www.gao.gov/blog/f-35-will-now-exceed-2-trillion-military-plans-fly-it-less
>>531197396werent they bragging all over lol yesterday that they had jets freely flying over iranian airspace?
>>531197396CENTCOMbecause Ministry of Truth is copyrighted
>>531197641They've been bragging about air supremacy since day 1, and have never had it.10% of the reaper-fleet is kill now.
>>531197641They've been saying that, but in reality they've been flying around the edges of Iran and using long-range weaponry. They can't get close without risking serious damage
>>531197850They switched to more dumb bombs last week, staying reasonably close to the coast still.Now that there's been a shootdown, B52's are back to using JASSM's only again, and the A10 went back home.
>>531197724>>531198058>>531197850You retards need to learn what air superiority means. Do you see any Iranian planes flying?
>>531198275I see missiles and drones roaming wich is their doctrine, Iran's doctrine is not le heckin macrosserino
>>531198275>Do you see any Iranian planes flying?Yes? They don't need pilots though. They're small and hit targets every day.They're also still launching missiles into the air that you supposedly have 'superiority' over on a daily basis unimpeded.
Why don't Iranian cowards come face the might of the US Airforce and Navy man to man? This is unfair
>one puhbitid>no link>""""west asian""""" news source
>>531197396Why didnt the F-35 used its flares?
>>531198275As far as I know they still have planes in the air which is part of why you pussies have stayed almost entirely out of their airspace and launched from extreme long range. That and their obviously effective air defence.There were pictures from not that long ago of their planes in the air but I assume they stopped people posting those on their side as well.
>>531197396w-we can still refund these planes r-right?the EU guarantees a refund period of 14 days, so Americans will take them back right??
>>531199281You could.You've also already sent your old planes to go get blown up in Ukraine
>>531198275An American calling people retarded... If that isn't a nigger calling a nigger a nigger I don't know what is.
>>531197718It's an.splc.adl.bani shitfbi fia operation reality truth does not matter just heresy apostasy
>>531197396Baal worshippers hate this one simple trick.
>>531197396>scratches the paintjob on f35well done, iran. they will never recover from this
Total Muttmerimigger Death
>>531199407It's so fucking over for us yuropoors
>>531197396>centcom admits>some rando twitter link me the centcom statement
>>531197396>hit>landed at a nearby baseHmmmmm........
>>531197396>turkish flag on the jetdid we actually rolled a critical d20 luck to get kicked out of it?
>>531197396>F-35 stealth fighter mogged by temu mobile SAMwell, at least it didn't get hit by a loitering AA missile lol
>>531200352>landed at nearby base>search and rescue operation flying in circles for hours
>>531197396> hit stealth F-35Well obviously then its shields were down.
>>531197396This is not possible, you can't hit Maverick and Goose.
>>531197396Yeah, good thing Iran is not on good terms with Russia and China, so their knowledge and field experience wont get sha- oh wait. Fuck.>>531199090This. They have been using standoff munitions the entire time, and when they didn't, the planes started getting mysterious accidents and friendly fire events. Remember when they sent out a carrier battlegroup against the houthis a few years ago and their ratio of training accidents, people going AWOL and planes falling off ships skyrocketed? They really don't like admitting their losses.
>>531197396>state of the art war machine of the most powerful military in history>taken down by some sandnigger with a sling
>>531197396Wow what a shit airplane.Canada should've went with the GripenUseless american equipment per usual.
>>531200443>it was real in my headpost the full uncropped version of that pic
>>531197396UH OHF-35 GOT A LITTLE SPLINTERTHAT MEANS WE HAVE TO SPEND ANOTHER 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 GOYSHEKELS ON OUR MILITARY
>>531197396Piece of shit plane since inception.
It reminds me of how the mujahideen in Afghanistan would use stinger missiles to shoot down Soviet helicopters.
Turns out the Iron Dome don't woik neitha. Where that money go? Superyachts for the chosen.
>>531201144Pay your freedom tax
>>531197396This only matters if they can RELIABLY do so, if they can repeat this again and again at will.I don't think so. They were just being lucky once.
>>531199793>All those stealth systems and top of the line parts run so hot a basic heat sensor could catch itThat's actually hilarious, please tell me it's true.
>>531201320Yeah and then we bought it back from them at a premium once the Jews realized osama was planning to double cross them.
>>531197396Maybe the pilot forgot to turn on the cloaking device.
>>531197396What kind of a system was it? Was it one of the chink AD systems? My initial guess was that it had to be that. It probably isn’t easy to track and target an advanced plane like the F-35
>>531197641Everything is a lie, there's many dead US soldiers and millions upon millions of dollars worth of equipment already destroyed.The true scale of it won't come out for some time.
>>531199793>... building an aircraft that the enemy simply could not see. Not on Infrared...>Every F-35 driver who takes off from here on knows, actually knows, that someone down there might be able to see them.Yeah because an actual fighter jet pilot is to fucking stupid to figure out that their 1500F+ exhaust gas could be tracked by an IR heatseeker.
>>531197396china and russia confirmed to be able to defeat stealth
>>531201403they hit another yesterday
>>531199090>their obviously effective air defenceSo effective their biggest wins are wounding an F-35 that made it back and Kuwaiti friendly fire
>>531201661yeah its called "being close to the stealth aircraft"it's what stealth means
>>531201403
>>531201619shhh they are pretending they blew up the Death Star.
>>531197528In ten years I suspect the Air Force will be using the F-15E.
>>531199793Locksneed Muttin bros, are we losing our touch?
>>531198275Really. Aircraft will get shot down in war and the F-35 isn't always "stealth", the moment you add external munitions any stealth aircraft loses radar stealth. Also you can still be vulnerable to IR missiles which may have been what happened. US and Israeli aircraft have been operating over Iran and doing non stop strikes for weeks almost completely unopposed.>>531197850Not true, they've been using F-15E's, if you're going to use simply stand off munitions, you would not use that.
>>531201819fucking asshole hollander, he's literally just saying good morning, why do you punch him in the face for that?you do realise they don't do that in Germany?
>>531201819this meme always makes me laugh out loud, thanks for the kek
>>531200830The Gripen is a budget fighter, a modern F16 is better in every way.
>>531202801>almost completely unopposed.10% of the Reaper-fleet is kill though.And they've not entered the (north-)eastern parts at all.
>>531201412how the fuck does he keep getting away with it??
>we hit one plane once, it landedsafely>y-you lost
>>531203106I heard Turkey is looking for this guy
>>531201403Also the US is probably going to be more prudent for a while. Get back to seeking, baiting and destroying AA more methodically. Possibly adding a few weeks to the war.
>>531203302You're late, faggot.It's 2 planes now.
Oh no no
all amerifat weapons are literally useless junk from the 90s or overengineered junk that doesnt work and costs a fortune
IT'S AI BRO FUCK YOU GOAT FUCKER ZIGGER ZIGGER ZIGGER LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU ZIGGER ZIGGER ZIGGER!!!!! *reports you obsessively to the /k/ jannies like a eunuch bitch*
>>531203328They're already back to using JASSMs on B52s today.>a few weeksTry months.
>>531197641that pizza looks good, congratz
>>531201412wym its not true?you can see how white this shit is glowing.the spotter probably saw this with a thermal hunting scope, 300 bucks from Alibaba.
>>531197396Iranians are defeated. Somebody needs to tell them this.They hit the plane because they are not playing fair. Simple as.
>>531203370Somebody yesterday mentioned there were rumored helicopter searches going on. This keeps getting more likely."Hard landing" indeed.
>>531199793This also highlights a key decision point in the mid Cold War, where "absolute speed" was discarded for "stealth". We see here that the F-35 was being used as simply a bomb delivery truck. If they were making Mach 3+ dashes across enemy airspace, I highly doubt they'd be caught. It gets back to an old fighter pilot saying - "speed is life". Guess "they" forgot that one...
>>531199793Stupid image. The heat signature is and always was an issue. The reason for stealth is hoping to get in and out fast enough before being locked on and shot at, mainly because planes are expensive.
>>531197528so ~$38 trillion less than remittances outflow from now through 2088
>>531197396Defense contractors should be executed for this blunder. Not prosecuted, executed.
>>531203625Obviously this is not the footage from Iran shooting down the jet.
>>531199793Was anyone ever under the impression that these things weren't detectable in IR?Turns out their jets show up on visible light sensors too. Huge shock.The thing with heat sensors is that they have to be pointed at the object and something has to be watching. You can't survey the whole sky looking for an IR signature. It's no different from surveying the whole sky looking for a visible light signature. They're the same thing in different wavelengths.While it is pretty hilarious that an F-35 has been shot down by a 'backwards muslim country' - and the irony is not lost on me - the nature of this 'discovery' is not the game changer they make it out to be.Plus, let's be real, the pilot was probably a woman.
>>531197396Why are russians destroying American jets? Trump, are you okay with this?
>>531201429That was outlawed at the treaty of Algeron.
>>531197396SHORT LOCKHEED NOWSELL SELL SELL
>>531197396who in the fuck cares its a war planes and people will be killed from both sides...what a stupid thread consider Iran do not have a Navy
>>531197396Aerial stealth technology cannot overcome the incompetency of female piloting...but by all means, celebrate this like it means something.
>>531204037>You can't survey the whole sky looking for an IR signature. It's no different from surveying the whole sky looking for a visible light signatureWith modern computers you could probably do both in real time.Heck, you might be able to do it from space.
>>531197396>canopy bowthat's when I knew it was shit
>>531204037>they have to be pointed at the object and something has to be watchingPutting a small remote camera & heat sensor in a hole in the ground isn't hard, anon.> You can't survey the whole sky looking for an IR signature.You don't need to. Their old sattelites can already give a low-resolution location.>backwards muslim countryTheir average IQ is higher than yours. Friendly reminder you are the browns in this conflict.
>>531197396Can we get the centcom source? Or ar you just going to repost xwitter nobodies?
>>531197396Iranians have been sanctioned for decades and had to use whatever they could slap together and they shot down a 5th gen jet? Stealth is just a meme used by Lockheed to get the government to overpay for their trash jets
Stealth aircraft are only invisible to radar; they can still be detected by visual observation or heat signatures. The pilot probably mistook himself for an invisible man.It wasn’t a crash; the aircraft was hit but managed to fly under its own power to a U.S. military base and land there, so the damage is likely minor.You should think of it in terms of a K/D ratio, just like in a video game.
>>531199061>>Why didnt the F-35 used its flares?Likely the plane didn't detect the incoming weapon. The system and pilot were oblivious until the.incoming had impacted or detonated.Flares and towed decoy will aitomatically deploy if the plane becomes aware.it is targeted. Such was not the case here. Perhaps the system was switched to manual due to frequent false alarms.We'll never know the truth.
>>531197528So it cost 400 billion for the jets, plus an additional 1.6 trillion for corruption, pork, and contractor welfare?
>>531197718>CENTCOM>because Ministry of Truth is copyrightedFENTCOM would be more honest
>>531197641IdiotAir superiority doenst mean having air superiorityIt means something else that shows america is winning
>>531197396>We didn't need that airplane anyway>We have other airplanes you knowHAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHA
>>531199793We just bought over 60 of these pieces of shit. We are having serious buyers remorse since we can't really even afford them. So... can we get a refund? We basically got scammed by the US MIC.
>>531203625>no evasive maneuvers>video cuts as soon as it hits>fucking weird ass heat distribution on the planeAre we still falling for DCS footage? 4 years of Ukraine didn't teach you tards anything?
>>531198275the copes begin
>>531204410I put that term in quotes for a reason.If you need satellites and a full sky survey system from the ground that only covers 20-30 miles radius, you'd need hundreds of them in a grid all over the country to get actionable intelligence.Now if you could use IR from satellites and get a nearly live feed (chinese satellites) maybe you could then trigger a ground-based search and attempt to fire off a missile before an F-35 is out of range. Sure.But that's a nation-state level effort just to get one F-35. And maybe they did that just to get one public victory. Who knows?But the F-35 is not easily shot down.And it's also entirely possible that this was a lucky catch.
>>531204037>you can't survey the whole skyModern Computing has entered the chat
>>531205322This money is going straight to the US MIC (Jews) and the Israeli shareholders (also Jews) , be grateful anon. You wouldn't want to be branded an anti-Semite, right?
>>531197396Said F-35 returned to base and landed.
>>531205534Yeah, I didn't factor top-down satellite survey capabilities. But they'd have to be working with Russia or China for that data. Then they'd have to have the luck of an F-35 actually passing within visual range of a ground sensor.Possible? Absolutely.Do I expect to see many other F-35s shot down using this method? It remains to be seen. Depends on how much 3rd party assistance they're getting.
>>531205697May we see it, kike?
>>531204799Pigran bootlickers are so desperate for a win man. It's literally pathetic. Tens of thousands of bombs dropped on Iran. All over the country. Iran can only retaliate on Civilian energy infrastructure. Thousands of the vehicles and personnel dead. Rumors of desertion and dereliction of duty at the ground. But one F35 gets clipped and they stop licking Iranian assholes and froth from the mouth and declare total Iran supremacy
>>531205751You want the US to publish photos of the damage?
I warned that stealth was a meme and not worth the investment being put into it.We could have had minesweepers.We could have had so much if it weren't for the F-35 boondoggle.
>>531197396wtf
>It's actually no big deal our plane got spanked by literal goat herders
>>531205807Remind me again why your carrier group never entered the straight of Hormuz and is now headed back to port for repairs? Also, why is your president trying to form a coalition of forces to keep the straight open if the situation is completely under control?
>>531205529>you'd need hundreds of them in a grid all over the country to get actionable intelligence.It's a camera and a heat-sensor, anon.It's not much more than a CCTV-camera.You can plop those literally everywhere.> if you could use IR from satellitesThe Iranians have their own satellites for this. They're older though, so not that high-res.>and get a nearly live feed (chinese satellites)Those are used for the optical sensors. China launched dozens over the past 3 years alone.>that's a nation-state level effort just to get one F-35No, it's just internal intelligence sharing. It's an email, or a notification. Not hundreds of people doing work.
>12000 sucessful sorties>T-they're losing t-they don't have air superiority
>>531197641Yeah, like three days after it started they were talking about B-52’s. The amount of lying is fucking sad.
>>531199061Budget cuts, israel needed the money you see.
>>531205727>But they'd have to be working with Russia or China for that data.Iran became an orbital-launch-capable nation in 2009
>>531206000I'm not sure what's more embarassing, the carrier took a hit from enemy action or the crew mutunied and burned SIX HUNDRED (!!!!) beds in an act of rebellion.
>>531205941>Bomb Iran for 3 weeks>Thousands of missions flown>All aircraft losses are from friendly fire and accidents>Iran manages to clip one(1) manned aircraft>Said plane returns to base and landsIt's so over
>>531197396if we didn't do it first, someone else would have.
>>531197396Impossible. The Iranian missile defense systems have all been bombed. USA has air supremacy. Fake news.
F-35 flopped, even Top Gun's Maverick was too afraid to fly it.
>>531205322You dumb snow niggers got conned into buying US shitboxes and joining their death cult. Deserved
>>531206129how are you measuring success? In the sense that they landed? or achieved any goals? because Iran is still at 100 percent capabilities to bum knife the USA's soft GCC belly.
>>531199793Wow if this is really true they saved the Turks a lot of money not letting them buy this plane.
>>531206344>Iran is still at 100 percent capabilitiesLook im just impressed a sandnigger is capable of operating a computer, enjoy your delusion
>>531198275>>531199793>>531204037>>531203370>>531203720>>531203625https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCPU_H3QNqo
>>531206150>three days after it started they were talking about B-52’sThose B52s are launching JASSMs that could be launched from different platforms.It's a propaganda push to make it look like they have air supremacy, which they don't.Same thing with the A10 that never flew more than 4 miles into Iranian airspace.
>>531204866So, a female pilot again.
>>5311975282088? they expect this thing to be relevant for 60+ years? Jesus its not a B52
>>531206434Nobody is safe from a goatfucker with a manpad
>>531206557Shouldn't you be hiding in your cuckshed?
>>531198275>Do you see any Iranian planes flying? "They aren't fighting in a way we would like. They are doing it wrong."
>>531197396>Russia stopped in their tracks by Ukraine, a former satellite state>US defeated by Iran, a country that doesnt even have nuclear powerthat I get to see the day, oh the glory. this means offensive wars are DEAD. absolutely dead and buried!
>>531206434A10s are doing drone interdiction over neighboring counties. They got a crazy loiter time and can carry ass tons of those modified zuma rockets with the tracking kit.
>>531206220The Shias shill are on full alert to exaggerate. Meanwhile Iran entire navy is destroyed
>>531206750The interdictions were mostly done by planes coming from the Ford.Which is why you haven't really seen videos of those since the Ford went back to the Suez a day or 2 ago.
>>531206557Get back in the buttbunker
>>531197396This ought to happen from time to time, I'm more curious to see a conflict where stealths are dropped consistently though.
>>531197396Why is Iran cowardly vandalizing the best equipment the world has ever seen? Have they no shame?
>>531201412Any jet generates a crazy amount of heat but IR missiles have a short range, the expensive aaylmao stealthiness is supposed to be effective against radar systems.
>>531206887don't forget the F35 is a multipurpose plane that has a lower top speed than the real stealth stuff. it's got the coating and design but it's a missile deterrent not it's main purpose.
>>531206846This faggot has dead eyes
/K/ on suicide watch
>>531197396F-35 is not really a stealth jet. Entirely wrong geometry. Also you need to be flying at night to greatly reduce the chance of visual targeting.
>>531201412Of course it is true. But I don't believe they ever claimed to be invisible to IR. That's bullshit. It is a jet engine after all. They maybe have added things to reduce IR signature compared to earlier jets but not invisbile to IR. That is a bit of a strawman here.
>>531197641Is that Smoked Oysters Double Cheese Pizza?I hope you did use Worchestershire sauce in abundance. My favourite food ever. My birthday food, even birthday party pizza since I was about 10yo..
>>531206000checked and this. U.S. Military is a fucking farce. No surprise that they lost ALL the manufactured jewish wars since WW2. And they even got massacred in WW2 with the Pearl Harbor false flag and Normandy landings.
>>531207285/k/ hasnt been worth visiting in like a decade. I hope they all commit seduku
>>531203106Kek this shit never gets old.
>>531197641You're going to eat that with a knife and fork aren't you? I felt like an absolute nigger eating pizza with my hands in Italy, but I'd rather kill myself than become a knife and fork cuck
>>531206000That specific group didn't even go past the Houthis.
Wait so are they guessing it was some sort of TV guided surface to air missile with a basic optical camera and IR capability?
>>531205807
>>531197396I dont believe it /pol/ told centcom lies and is untrustworthy and only pakistani Twitter accounts tell the truth
>>531206692You're going back to Morocco very soon ackmed
>>531197396Chinese had access to this thing during its entire development. This is completely unsurprising.
F-35 excels at stand-off operations, working in coordination with other radar-equipped aircraft to launch hard-to-detect missiles from a distance of about 1,000 km from the enemy.Perhaps they let their guard down and got too close to the enemy.
>>531197396The general public is beginning to understand why Russia's spend so much time and money developing hypersonic missiles while we were building next gen fighter jets and bombers. Because if you can't build a large volume of current gen fighters and aircraft carriers to launch them from, you build stockpiles of heat-seeking hypersonic missiles (that move much faster than F22s/F35s) in order to counter them.
>>531203924Thats retarted considering the f35 is not fast compared to other shit.So now the enemy is watching, and is likely waiting to find out if this is a repeatable event.If it turns out to be repeatable then the US military lost the upper hand.
>>531199281Ursula bought them on Whatsapp like the vaccines, probably didn't keep the receipt.
>>531207899>checkedOr maybe, hear me out, random people on the Internet don't actually know much of shit about the real capability of an aircraft? Pilots fucking hated them, that should be a good indicator as well as this is the second one to get shot in what, a week?
>>531197641napoli pizza
>>531199793Zero percent chance this tweet wasn't written by chatgpt lmao. Why does every single lazy AI slop post read the same way?
>>531202954Is this a wholesome Sodom & Gomorrah reference?
>>531205898Yes
>>531208391very hecking wholesome, anon.
>>531205807Why is the strait still closed?
>>531197641That's like 80% crust and 20% pizza. Death to america and israel by the way.
>>531204037>backwards muslim countryThey kill pedophiles you elect them to office.They're free and independant, you're controlled by Israel.Men there can find a virgin wife, marry and have children, we'd be lucky to find a girl that fucked less than 10 men (30).They're honorable and don't backstab you, you attacked them twice in the middle of negociations, torpedoed an unarmed ship, double tap bombed an all girl school.Their leader knew he'd be targeted but said Iranians can't go down to bunkers so why should I, he got bombed along with several members of his family, his son the new leader literally lost his wife, daughter, sister and father in that bombing, so good luck negociating with him.You're fighting for the jews, people who rape and sacrifice children to demons... let that shit sink in. And with social media, everyone knows, and even US soldiers know, how do you think moral is going to be in the battlefield? You went in with no strategy, they literaly invented chess "The term checkmate originates from the ancient Persian phrase “Shah Mat,” which means “the king is helpless”".Only reason they're not as technologically advanced as you do is because you run on debt, impovering your people and the whole world, and they've been under sanctions for decades.And also from the pictures I've seen, they're whiter than you.Who's backwards in this conflict mutt-san?
>>531200760>Yeah, good thing Iran is not on good terms with Russia and China, so their knowledge and field experience wont get sha- oh wait. Fuck.There's nothing to share, they're either using Chinese or Russian systems, mostly Russian anti air systems. All of this was how things would have played out anyway if NATO or mutts were dumb enough to go to war with the two, except far more violent, hence why they will NEVER actually commit despite the paper tiger cope.The only thing to share is that the mutt superiority cope is finally over, an organised force with anti air systems will remove the fantasy of complete air dominance that mutts love to boast about when bombing small dysfunctional shitholes. Now all the laughing by mutts at russian air defence and no air superiority over ukraine is going to bite them back in the ass as they won't be able to put their money their mouth is.
>>531197396Tough month for Lmericans
You must not fly the F-35 at an altitude where it can be locked onto from the ground via visual or heat-seeking guidance.That would defeat the purpose of stealth.
>>531208614>an altitude where it can be locked onto from the ground via visualThat's literally any altitude, including most of space between earth & the moon.
>>531207300>Visual targeting.>InfraredAnon...i.
>>531205322No refunds
>>531203625>>one puhbitidThat's not footage of it, the F-35 before being hit is registering as hot as the explosion in the IR footage. The jet also drops it's heat signature completely after the hit.
>>531197396Down a F-22 Raptor and then I'll be impressed. F-35 is the ghetto sell-everyone version of the F-22.
>>531204037>Plus, let's be real, the pilot was probably a woman
>>531208575Sandnigger detected
Of course, it is possible to see the International Space Station from the ground.However, the farther you are from the ground, the wider the optical search area becomes, so it becomes difficult to spot it at high altitudes.
>>531208895You do realize all the visuals are based on ranges, right?You could make water full white and ice gray, if you wanted to. A color doesn't indicate an absolute value, it indicates a point within the current range.
Is it true that women driving is dangerous in every country?In Japan, too, women driving is dangerous.
>>531209063>However, the farther you are from the ground, the wider the optical search area becomes, so it becomes difficult to spot it at high altitudesUnless you're even higher up.Friendly reminder that Iran has been an orbit-launching country since 2009. And before that launched several satellites using its allies.>On 28 October 2005, a Kosmos-3M booster rocket launched Sina-1. The joint Iranian-Russian Sina-1 project cost US$15 million, and the launch made Iran the 43rd country to possess its own satellite
>>531208942Trump is that you? We use counter arguments Mr President not name calling, get off your knees and put Natanyahu's cock back in his pants.
>>531199793What a pedantic piece of shit
>>531199793>It's not just x, it's yLoving this new AI utopia
>>531205898Yes.We had no problems showing survived battle damage on the A-10’s in the past…You know before we let faggots and darkies start making important decisions.
>>531209240I’m glad fr*nchniggers got raped and bombed by amerimutts in WW2. Shame we didn’t kill you all
>>531207681Your nation and people will soon cease to exist daiper warrior
>>531208323>something just happened in my tummy, and its a game changer for the porcelain hemisphere>SPACE>When day old taco bell and half a fist of Kentucky Deluxe meet in my intestines, its not just simple digestion, its an unprecedented meeting that can send tremors through the financial world >SPACE>Because the stream of shit flowing from my ass isn't just a one time event, its a sustained source of liquidity that threatens to destabilize long held assumptions about floors and outflow.>SPACE>markets are pricing in solid returns, but a sudden injection like this changes the game, and the only people positioned to profit from it are the kikes with the foresight to get their head in the bowl before dumb money even knows im sitting downSomething like that?
>>531197396>waste billions of dollars developing and building these fucking jets>aerial combat is basically non-existent now>missiles and drones can be used for ranged warfare>no need to use these for dropping bombs or AtG missiles since other platforms are more suitedwhat is the point of jets?
>>531209104The range is massive to light up the entire jet evenly to be the same as the engines and the explosion. The video is not of the hit.
>>531198058Lol please fly the a10 over Iran
>>531198275America really IS descended from the British."We have written the rules of war, and by you not following them, we are winning, you are cheating, and this fight did not count"
>>531209669MIC money laundering of course. Can't launder a shitload if they make cheap drones.
>>531208919F22 is air superiority fighter.F35 is joint strike.Youll never see this happen with an f22 because theyre sitting in hangars rusting out. And the govt is too scared to deploy them against an actual aerial adversarry. I wanna see how they perform as much as anybody because theyre sick as fuck.But you wont see them doing work in iran, because irans air fleet doenst really exist.
There are many satellites orbiting Iran, so if one were able to detect the heat signature of an F-35’s exhaust, it could input the aircraft’s altitude, speed, and direction into a nearby ground-based missile system to calculate an approximate point of convergence.If the missile could be guided close enough, it might be possible to shoot it down using far-infrared guidance.
>>531197396Thats not that impressive. Stealth doesnt mean its immune to being targeted, just that its much harder to target.If the F35 was ambushed by this system at close range then this isnt unexpected.They didnt even shoot it down either, just damage it an injure the pilot.
>>531209757>The range is massive to light up the entire jet evenlyRanges auto-adjust, anon. White is the lightest point in the image, black is the darkest point.Which is why everything is suddenly gray after the explosion. Range got moved up, and will take a second or so to move back down again.Question: Does the body tempterature of the teacher in this video suddenly rise by 50 degrees?Is his skin the same temperature as the burning hydrogen (2000C)?Or is the sensor simply switching ranges?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qy5Rw67Ox4w
>>531209669>>531209830Lots of vatnigger/chinksect/Iranian shills ITT trying to demoralize people. The F35 is amazing but its never been invincible. Any drone you'd make with its features would just be as expensive.
>>531209791Thats not how winning works.Theres no rules when it comes to killing the enemies of god
>>531197396I'm having a deja vu.
>>531197396WHAT IS FENTCOM'S STATEMENT?
>>531210167Those features aren't relevant to today's wars, dumbshit. Take your kike MIC defense back to /k/ with the other glowniggers.
>>531207958LMAO fuck off vatnigger shill. Hypersonic missiles cost tens of millions each, and are 1 time use.F35s are VASTLY superior. This one didnt even get downed despite being hit. You vatniggers are grasping at straws.
>>531198275>Did you see any Iranian cavalrymen on horseback with their muskets drawn?Fucking grandpa over here.
>>531198058It wasn't shot down. Taking damage and flying to and making a safe landing is not the same as getting shot down.
>>531209669Autonomy. That's why you will always still have manned vehicles.
I'm going to bed now.Everyone, there's a high probability that Iran and Syria possess weapons of mass destruction.Please be very careful. Because South Korea smuggled strategic materials to Iran, Iran was able to arm itself with weapons of mass destruction. South Korean Firms Violate International Controls on Shipping Materials for WMDs to Iran and Syriahttps://japan-forward.com/south-korean-firms-violate-international-controls-on-shipping-materials-for-wmds-to-iran-and-syria/Editorial: S. Korea should clearly explain fire-control radar incidenthttps://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20181228/p2a/00m/0na/017000c
>>531210167No it wouldnt.The primary expense for the f35 was the vertical takeoff capability. But even more so the pilot interface. Which was cutting edge and totally new from the ground up.The software had major bugs for years and they finally got them worked out, kinda.If it werent manned the software would be far easier to write, as theres no spacial interface between pilot, helmet and aircraft orientation. Not to mention the million modes it can operate as.Its like an apache helicopter helmet but way more advanced
>>531199061Too little time to respond maybe?
>>531197396WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE SU-57 WAS THE BEST 5TH GEN FIGHTER
>>531210478>Getting shot and being forced to go down is not the same as getting shot downAnd getting shot, losing dozens of reapers, and having the 'enemy' stilll launch missiles into the sky is not the same as 'air supremacy'.
>>531210337>Those features aren't relevant to today's wars, dumbshit. They most certainly are my seething vatnigger shill. Hence why all 6th gen fighter designs from every country are still focusing on stealth. Just because you inferior, subhuman slav monkeys can't into stealth (the SU57 is non-existent joke), doesnt mean stealth is outdated.Putin is a kike btw. Same with the majority of your oligarch overlords.
>>531200848
>>531210478'TIS BUT A SCRATCH
>>531210795They off the video because it shows it flying away lol
>>531210648The SU57 doesnt even exist, Vatnigger.
>>531210664They are flying thousands of sorties over enemy air space, of course they have air supremacy. One F-35 getting hit out of thousands is more of a convergence of scenarios, rather than Moreno than anything else. They are able to use non stealth bombers at will. You mostly just ain't know what you're talking about.
>>531210695Seems like the second F35 getting shot down, A10s not being able to do shit and Bombers not being able to operate freely shows they're not really that useful. Seems like the thing you care about isn't actually useful in real war, so who cares what you think?
>>531211004>overNo, they're not.>of course they have air supremacyNo, they don't.Air supremacy means owning the sky. Losing drones on a daily basis, and having the opponent launch into the sky uninterrupted, means you don't have air supremacy. Simple fact.
>>531201723Bro don't bother. They're worse than ricers that got smoked in a street race flexing how clean their popoff valve sounds. In a couple of years we're going to find out that it was compound complacency like Kosovo or the Minot incident and we're going to have to hear about it until the end of time. Some people are just Dunning Kruger maxing + being obnoxious niggers because they can. It's not worth arguing or even being mad about. You might as well be getting your counter opinions from the View listening to them. By all objective measures we've had Not just Air superiority, but Air supremacy since day one. They will never admit or understand that that doesn't mean that the opposing force can't shoot back at all. It's like arguing with women. Facts and objective standards don't matter to them. >6000 successful airstrikes with one case of what appears to be premeditated allied fratricide and one midair collision and one aircraft damaged by enemy fire equals us loosing to them. The disparity of scrutiny and the impossible standard we get held to specifically makes having and adult discussion impossible. Much like no one is as blind or deaf as someone who refuses to see or listen. They don't care because they desperately want us to fail and loose, nothing else matters to them. I'm serious when I say it's not worth your time. Just let them shit talk. It's all they're good for. Just like Iraq and Afghanistan "won" everyone knows we're not going to genocide them while they can pretty much get away with anything. We've pigeon holed ourselves into a corner by setting an impossible standard for ourselves that everyone is hellbent on scrutinizing, criticizing and using against us to the fullest extent possible. Thank God I'm not in charge because I would have gone full bomber Harris if not full send Curtis LeMay on them at least a week ago and this shit would have been over by now. We've tied both hands behind our backs and everyone knows it.
>>531202374You will live to see the F block
>>531202825
>>531210795The last frame of that shows it flying away safely
>>531209511Faggot if not for us your country wouldn't exist, remember who helped you against the Brits.
>>531201819I hate Germanistan so fucking much
>>531211004>They are able to use non stealth bombers at will.The use of JASSMs shows this isn't true. They are STILL mostly using only stand-off munitions, firing from hundreds of kilometers away.And after a plane got hit, they're now ONLY using stand-off munitions again (see b52s today).
>>531197396Why are there AA? Tomahawk or drone the AA. Or higher altitude bomb it, why wasn't counter measures deployed on jet, flares, swarm, plasma, outside of the not so much stealth?In any case the jet managed to return and the pilot is uninjured. So the jet used countermeasures. It knows the location of any air defense. They won't be firing them again.After all this time weeks what air defense is that exactly? Mobile, or handled, enough to film it? Static would've been struck prior? Supplied since?
>>531211027>Vatnigger shill immediately opens the firehouse of falsehood when he loses the arguement. LMAO. Like pottery. Literally everything you said in that post is bullshit and your FAS afflicted, mongol rape-baby ass knows it.You russians are white niggers and you deserve to be exterminated so a supierior race of people can claim your national resources.
>>531197396Fuck stealth trash
>>531211423OK? So they already won, right? Why isn't the straight open? Why are they still there? The F35 is working so well, what's the issue? Why are we getting butthurt belt slavniggers here? Go worry about your faggotfest "war" in your containment threads.
>>531206206The whole "akhchully it was just laundy fire" or "akhchully it was crew mutiny" thing really reminds me of the moskva sinking>inb4 the ship arrive on port with dozens of sailors missing
>>531211135It's really annoying talking to you retards, it is air supremacy, Iran cannot contest them in the air and only have a few AA systems left. It's a large country, they will have a few IR or other things sprinkled around, but the US is uncontested in the air and flies thousands of missions over hostile air space with pretty much zero issues which is why they can use B-52s instead of B-2s.
>>531206372Turkey did buy some I thought
>>531211215>Air supremacy since day one.Sure jan.
>>531211610>Iran cannot contest them in the airTHEY LITERALLY JUST DID, RETARD.
>>531197528We are going to be stuck with these pieces of shit until 2088?
>>531209460>Comparing a classified state of the art stealth fighter jet with a 50 year old slow and lumbering CAS plane
>>531199793>A system that your grandmother can explain>This innovative thing everyone wants for billions and only the slavemuslim haveShills frogetting to make sense in their shitlicking is always fun.
>>531211684These are /k/ MIC shills, they're here to try to run damage control for their retarded money laundering programs. They're just other kikes.
What's the reaction like on /k/? Yesterday a mod was handing out immediate 7 day bans to anyone claiming it was hit.
>>531211610>over hostile air spaceYou really should pay closer attention to what's actually happening.
>>531211645>CBS>DronesAre you gonna celebrate shooting pidgeons next, slaves?
>>531211828That was over 10 days ago, at which point the actual counter was nearing 20.The US has now (today) lost over 10% of its entire Reaper-fleet already.
>>531208512That's how italians like it
>>531211684No, they have no jets. They have a few AA systems they can shoot from the ground if the jet is flying low enough, the US is flying thousands of missions, if course there will probably be a lucky hit with enough time.
>>531211813Oh no they are shooting from a safe distance and hitting ghe target, that is such an L…too bad all Iranians who can announce that keeps getting killed, why aren’t they stopping the taacks with “air superiority” faggot?You seething is proof Iran is toast.
>>531211910Contest: To compete or strive for; struggle to gain or controlYou don't CONTROL it, retard.
>>531211899Yes, of fucking drones, the things that you are supposed to lose. Stop being a shill, you are pathetic even at that job.
>>531207509>prefers to be a nigger than using knife and forkthanks mutt
>>531211934>Oh no they are shooting from a safe distance and hitting ghe targetHow many of those targets are in eastern Iran?100% of the military was destroyed over a week ago, right?
>>531211980Then stop the bombs. Clearly you can’t, so shut the fuck up.Air superiority means to be able to bomb the other and operate. No state in the world can just completely control the sky above them.
>>531212001>the things that you are supposed to loseThey've lost more of them in 3 weeks than they did in the entire history of the MQ-9 Reaper up until then. All while claiming air supremacy on day 1.
>>531211610Didn't you read Mine Kampf? Commies just keep going until you kill them.
>>531211423It seems like a mobile platform or a handheld thermal device, it was possibly added later, or configured with heat tracking. Is it static after 3 weeks of bombarding. No they're bombed.It barely hit it. Countermeasures. The pilot is alive and uninjured. The plane damaged, returned. According to the fact check.Plane bombed and a handheld or mobile unit thermal imaged and popped at tge plane. Countermeasures engaged but any blast caused damage to the jet? There's no reason to assume the Iranian position of every plane is at risk. They faster glide bomb. In any case in that many sorties there's risk regardless of this incident. Hell you could fire and you might hit something.
>>531211980They control ot for the most part, finding and destroying the remaining AA systems while being able to fly thousands of missions in several weeks over Iranian air space with no meaningful resistance is air supremacy, air supremacy is not about 100% zero resistance pop up systems can happen anywhere.
>>531211027>Some towel head has good enough vision to see a plane and points an IR missile at it and gets lucky.It's over pack it all up
>>531210181>the enemies of godJews and their goylems?
>>531212473They didn't lose it, it flew to and landed safely at a US base.
>>531212473Damn, it’s a shame we only had one of them.
>>531211645lol why is this shitty RC propeller plane costing $330,000,000? sounds like a scam
>>531212544>checkedGets lucky twice and hits nearly half our reaper drone fleet? When congress says no to funding your kike war, what then?
>>531212753>sounds like a scamThat’s our defense industry
>>531211980Maybe get your coven of infidels together again, and give them the zingers, and we can test that theory? How long does the next supreme infidel guard last. Give him a zinger
>>531212753MIC is nothing but money laundering, they outsource to jeet retards and then produce overpriced trash. It's finally coming to a head now that cheap drones and missiles are a thing.
>>531212763He’s talking about the F35. Not low flying propeller driven slow ass drowns. Two completely different things.
>>531209431only 1 reply pointing this out...grim
>>531212949Yep. We can’t hope to compete with Chinas production. It doesn’t matter if we knock out 10 of theirs to every one of theirs if they can make 100x more than us. It’s almost like sending all of our industry to them was a mistake…
>>531212964*drones
>>531212964Is the F35 going to somehow open the straight and overturn the Iranian leadership?
>>531203939>a single plane being damaged and lands safely in thousands of sorties is a blunderMy god you faggots are retarded.
>>531213099I mean the leadership has overturned a couple times now…
>>531213279>>531213321Why are you so personally invested in the F35 winning exactly? You're either a kike supporting Israel or a kike supporting MIC/military, either way you're a kike. The MIC steals money from me, you seem fine with that. Israel and kikes steal money from me, you seem fine with that too. The only logical reason for that would be you have a vested interest in kiked outcomes.
>>53121275311 planes, so 30 million a piecestill alot for a recon uav
>>531213279Brownoids have to cling to anything
unrecoverable levels of fafo
>>531206220>It's so overCivil war hasn't even started.
Bring back the F-117 Nighthawk
>>531211215>By all objective measures we've had Not just Air superiority, but Air supremacy since day oneNah. Hormuz strait is bkoked by drones. So enemy successfully achieved prohibitive interference. By definition US doesn't even have advantage.
>>531211423Why are you /k/-tards so neurotic?
Kiked
>>531210664>losing dozens of reapers,You're crying over *one* dozen (exactly 12) DRONES lost? That's your big win? How many Ayatollahs is that worth? And Iranian missile and drone launches are down by over 90%. When are we going to get over this "the US is losing in my imagination" messaging? Like objectively, the worst case scenario for the US is a strategic stalemate with Iran's military set back by a decade (already achieved).
>>531210664>losing dozens of reapers, Are brownoids seriously bragging about shooting down disposable propeller planes that fly in predictable paths at 200 mph? Lmao
>>531199061real life isn't battlefield 3
>>531206846Could smell the semen and ass through my GD phone
>>531211813Why don't the Iranian fighter jets fly outside of Iranian airspace to shoot down the small vulnerable bombers?
>>531203625
>>531215277They genuinely believe jews printing monopoly money means America is invincible because of their gdp, they are a lost cause
>>531211027A couple of losses on thousands of successful strikes isn't "not being able to operate freely." You're coping really hard.
>>531210337this image ended custom bank card printing in Norway
>>531216538So we won already, right? Why is the straight closed? What are the objectives and why haven't they been completed? Seems like the cope is coming from MIC kikes that have to defend their money laundering operations to the end. Post nose.
>>531197396Anyone ever notice f-16s don't get shot down?The f-35 is a money pit piece of shit
>>531198275Why on earth would they expose their pilots like that? The US hasn't even landed troops, they have nothing to do, drone warfare is well-past here.
>>531216689I got you famalam
>>531216498You're seeing a direct demonstration of the US curb stomping the most advanced non-nuclear military in the world and your response is shifting the goal posts to muh GDP and muh monopoly money. >US military kicking absolute ass>Nooo, you're money is fake!!How does that even make sense?
>>531203370UH OH
>>531211645Bro... Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself. Drones are by their very nature expendable. MQ-9's are relatively expensive in that regard, but unless the Iranians start taking out command centers all they are doing is mildly annoying us and showing where their AA is. You don't even understand the situation well enough to properly insult me about what's actually happing let alone why.>>531211640They bought a couple so that they could reverse engineer their bootleg copy. We wouldn't sell them the good electronics or optics for them to clone and sell so they pulled out. The reaper is just the airframe. I'm pretty sure only the yids get to buy the ones with the "Gorgon's Eye" and other cool shit in them. So that means they've already sold it to China, but such is the life of a Shabbos vassal state like mine. >>531211693The F-35 isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Every military asset is an expensive clusterfuck of compromises. The main problem with the 35 was the B variant getting shoehorned into it. The Harrier replacement aspect of the program should have been a second separate program unto itself, but we congress fucked ourselves like always. The A and C model are fine and "our allies" only have the Naval capability to use the B variant. Stop bitching about a jack of all trades not being an absolute master of all when it openly exceeds the functional capabilities of any near peer clamed equivalent. The entire point was to give all of NATO fist day of conflict strike capability. God knows you faggots weren't going to build one that could yourselves. I can stop you from opening your mouth and looking like and idiot about as much as I could joy behar. Do yourself a favor and look up the FMC rates for the Typhoon or the Eurocopter. And then go back to talking shit. It's all you have or are good at.
>>531199281Call customer service in New Delhi
>>531216699>not securing every last objective within my arbitrary time frame is losingIran's military capacity has been diminished by over 90%. You can pretend that this is somehow not an impressive feat but your opinion doesn't really matter. Also, I'd post my 100% European intact foreskin but I don't want to embarrass you and dox my BWC.
>>531212755For battle damage assessment reasons literally no. If it had gone down in Iran it would be plastered on >50 threads front page within minutes. You get shitty jeet tier CGI to masturbate over for a reason.
but my alpha male daddy said they are literally invisible
>>531217328
>>531213424I’m not, I’m against people being retarded and not using their brains.
>>531197396What missile defense systems? I thought we destroyed every single target in the country 3x over last week?
>>531217610/k/ikes need to go back
>>531205807/K/ tranny cope certified
>>531197396Cool
>>531197396>OH NOSE MY HECKIN F35 GOT SHOTOh wait it was hit by a missile and landed? DOOMER bros on suicide watch, the F35 is not inept or incapable. Whatever one missile hit no one claimed it was Mark Gayson.The truth is using F35s they destroyed most of Irans military and air defenses without a single F35 loss until now and it wasnt even a full loss. To anyone reading, use critical thinking when browsing 4chan its mostly bots, shills, and propagandizers.
>>531213424Define "winning"It's serving its purpose right now>>531213449It is, but we already paid for them and used them for 20 years. How do you think the MIC works? We need to spend them to justify getting the funding for the next gen ones. The systems fucked. I'm not pushing back on that. I'm just saying that's how it works.https://thedefensepost.com/2026/03/20/us-arms-sales-gulf/Now be honest with yourself about pickrel. Which of these two concepts do you think is more likely to have already had a flying test demonstrator and which one will enter production this decade if ever?
>>531218867WOOOOOOOOO, collapsed economy is winning! I love economic collapse for kikes!
>>531205379The 2022 wave of shills and newfags has been completely replaced by the 2024 wave of safe-edgy zoomers and whiny brown people.
>ITT: faggots pretend that /pol/ has always worshiped a Fighter Jet and "you're jewish" if you point out the obvious that downing a plane is not a big deal
