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>tfw China is totally OK with the entire world burning because they already switched to EV

Has capitalism lost? Should the West have enforced EV decades ago?
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>>531203974
Yes some capitalism is good but never go full shizo capitalist like USA.
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>>531203974
China has shittons of oil in stock. They rely on "just in time" deliveries like shortsighted nigger countries do.
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>>531204222
they don't*
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>>531204222
They have huge stockpiles (as large as America’s before we tapped into it) but they just have diversified energy. It’s Japan that’s comically reliant on oil still
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How does china make electricity or mine the lithium to put in the cars
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>>531204389
You are very intelligent!
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>lol
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>>531204389
coal, mostly. some gas and renewables. oil is just 19%
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>>531203974
oil is used for a lot more things than fuel
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>>531204309
China is basically the world's factory and oil is used for manufacturing A LOT of different things
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>>531204222
the entire shift to EVs was 100% because they knew this was a problem. Chinese system has its faults but has shown, so far, that some of its features allow it to adopt to geostrategic realities more easily.
Issue in the USA is the USA hasn't actually seriously thought about its geostrategic position since 1991. Since the gulf war our leaders have just been autopiloting foreign policy to build a bigger and bigger 'le free world' club. Not for US security but for the economic interest of multinational corporations and the Epstein class. As opposed to China where corporations are only allowed to exist insofar as they benefit a greater national interest.

We should resist the temptation to glaze China because their nation and culture are riddled with deep flaws, but it's equally dangerous to cope it out and act like it's purely a paper tiger that will collapse in 2 more weeks like Zeihan has said for the last 20 years.
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>>531204813
coal to oil conversion is old technology and will only get more profitable as oil prices rise.
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>>531205752
The germans in WWII extensively used that as they were cut off from their oil supplies. Germany had huge natural coal reserves, just as China does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhCNsFAyGqk

as for China:
https://thecoalhub.com/china-consumes-almost-400-mt-of-coal-to-produce-liquid-fuels.html#:~:text=China%20is%20making%20liquid%20fuels,of%204%2C939%20million%20metric%20tons.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Coal/Chinas-Renewable-Boom-Masks-a-Quiet-Coal-to-Liquids-Expansion.html
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>>531204309
US SPR never exceeded 720 million barrels. China's oil reserves are estimated at around 1.2-1.4 billion barrels, plus an extra 40 million barrels of floating storage.

Japan is comically reliant on oil but at least has huge oil reserves
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>>531205565
The shift to EVs is because they're easier to build than IC. Ccp has never been able to build a reliable ic engine, which is why their exports were so weak. But an EV? Fucking gearbox, battery, and a couple of electric motors. The rest is just plastic shit which the ccp is very good at.
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>>531203974
China can buy oil straight from Russia. The only issue is that once you depend on someone's oil, they can charge whatever they want.
Also, people don't realise this, but Iranian tankers were NEVER stopped. Iran closed the strait, but they keep sending tankers, and no one will do a thing because each tanker that Iran delivers to China is one more tanker in the market, keeping the price manageable and preventing mass riots.
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>>531203974
No one burns oil for energy anymore except in extremely rare circumstances that geography requires. It's gas and coal.
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>>531204389
Lithium is sourced mainly from domestic, Chilean and Argentinian sources, mostly

New lithium is only necessary to build new batteries. Existing batteries can last for many years.

China is investing heavily in sodium ion batteries which won't require lithium to build

>>531204541
That is for all energy needs, not just electricity generation. China uses barely any oil for electricity generation.
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>>531206504
Vehicles require energy to move
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>>531203974
Iran is 22% of China's oil supply, but only 9% of their energy supply. That's why they have been going all in on green energy while Mutts are getting fucked by high oil prices.
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>>531206627
Iran might be around 22% of China's seaborne oil imports. It is not 22% of China's oil supply. Iran exports around 2mbpd, China consumes about 16mbpd.
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>>531206222
This is also a reason, but not the driver. China wants electrified transportation because it lacks the same easy oil supply the US has. EVs are objectively inferior to ICE vehicles in performance but are good enough for civilian use, allowing them to reserve fuel supplies, which would be limited during war, for their military with less of a negative impact on the civilian economy.
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>>531206766
>EVs are objectively inferior
Arguably not true anymore. EVs have a lot more improvement potential, and are improving by leaps and bounds, so it won't be long before they are significantly superior to ICEVs.
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>>531206504
Technically speaking, if we add up all the diesel and small gasoline generators used in each country, they are still "relevant".
I worked for an ISP, and we had a HUGE diesel generator for when prices of electricity passed a certain point or for blackouts.

But you are correct; the energy arriving in your grid is 100% gas or coal if it comes from fossil fuels and not oil.
Coal is dirt cheap, and gas is crazy efficient. Oil is neither.
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>>531206858
Don't waste your time.
There are people that today, still in 2026, still claim that horses are superior.
You will never change someone's opinion. that was based on political beliefs instead of real-world facts.
They don't care about safety, reliability, cost of ownership, maintenance schedules, or the fact you can produce your own electricity at home.
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So what you are saying is that Elon musk is personally responsible for the war within Iran because of his shitty ev car company.

Can we crucify him like Jesus?
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>>531206858
All new cars are kiked. EV or IC. They can be remotely ordered to crash yoiuinto a tree at 200km/h at a moment's notice. I will never buy&drive such a car.
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>>531203974
They also get Russian oil for cheap
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>>531203974
>China Has No Oil
ftfy
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>>531206721
They import most of their pil by land from russia, kazachstan and other stans. They have 4 month of pil in storage. I'm sure they will manage.
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>>531206222
Lol @ this retard
>>531205565
What are the "deep flaws" nigger? Not importing enough shitskins? Not sucking enough kike dick? Not turning their children into trannies? Enlighten us
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>>531203974
good goy china already has communism & killswitch cars when your social credit is too low.

whats the iran war all about?
greater israel? -no
human rights for iranians? -no
wmds? -nuh uh
actually its about forcing post industrial society through oil shortage, nordstream usa terror attack was just the beginning. also increase migration influx into europe.
china has proven itself the goodest of goys in covid times, like soulless slaves they went into lockdown when the govt demanded it, not the jew tries to force communism on the rest of us.
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>>531203974
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Conservatives in the United States have resisted every step of the way attempts to 1) make cars more fuel efficient 2) have cars run on alternative fuels (like natural gas) 3) electrification of passenger vehicles 4) building standards like passivhaus that dramatically reduce the energy consumption used to heat a home/building 5) tax incentives and rebates on home solar and wind

They fight it every single step of the way. And our golem population with the memory of a goldfish forgets all about every time gas dips back down.
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>>531203974
>Noooo you can't just plan your economy
why are capitalists retarded?
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>>531206573
A car is not a source of energy in the conventional sense. It's a vehicle.
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>>531203974
>>tfw China is totally OK with the entire world burning because they already switched to EV
china is totally ok with being bug slaves because they have no dignity & sense of self-worth, be like china goy.
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>>531203974
how the chinese mastered covid is also impressicve fellow goy, we should introduce social credit system here aswell. we westerners are still too freedom-loving.
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>>531209225
It's smart really. Oil is as vital as blood to the average american, so they're conditioned by infrastructure to depend on it like junkies. Really lucrative if you're a CEO of a big oil company.
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>>531203974
>w…we didnt need all that oil we always use anyway
Nu/pol/ posting the jew york times as a coping mechanism. Sad!
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>>531203974
another strange ((coincidence)), the nwo guy hung around with the chinese for quite some time now & his goals overlap with theirs, what are the odds?
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>>531203974
iran war is merely the second stage of mission "make europe poor". thanks american golem for doing the jews bidding, like clockwork.
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>>531209966
>iran war is merely the second stage of mission "make europe poor"
should just let ukraine go down the drain and hook back to russian oil&gas at this point.
ukraine just ain't more important than energy for EU. burgers would already sell it 1000x if their energy depended on it.
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>>531208724
>do nothing
except for being bankrolled by jews & forcing communism down everyones throats under the threat of violence, i wouldnt call that 'doing nothing'.
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>>531210321
>ukraine just ain't more important than energy for EU.
not in our kumbaya world where everyone is equal & any military conflict anywhere in the world is everyones business automatically & all nations not yet diverse & accepting of lgbt rights are the evil empires that must be boycotted even at the expense of ones basic comforts & against the will of the population.
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>>531204222
this. they've been building their stockpiles of everything for many years now
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>>531209121
>east germany has not yet learned how to be multicultural.
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>>531204137
America is a narco-kleptocracy.
There is no free market in the US.
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>>531208987
One party system and lack of freedom of speech means you can be thrown in jail for petty bullshit and without trial, infrastructure standards and adherence to codes means you can easily become statistic, culture of saving face rather than acknowledging and working to fix mistakes.
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>>531203974
NUMBER 11 CRASH AND BURN
CHINKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
http://www.google.com/search?q=china+collapse
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>>531212015
Which is good, since I doubt anyone supporting neoliberal capitalism has anything worth listening to.
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>>531206445
This entire situation is a use case for both having good relations with nations you need resources from and also making sure it's diverse enough at the same time.
Iran exports a shitload of oil to China but it's 14% of it's total, not a fatal blow to evil CHIYNA here. Meanwhile the USA has double fucked without lube Europe twice, once by encouraging self-suicide with Russia and then getting them to depend on LNG from two sources: them and Qatar.
All this has shown that the USA cannot be depended on. Not for defence (left the gulf to it's own devices), Not for trade (ruins trade relations over disguised nonsense for a resource grab)and not as an ally (wants everything but gives nothing)
It gets worse, he's expecting other nations to step into a war he started by threatening their supply. He's banking on it. As an addendum the USA supported Europe re-arming but they're telling Europe to stop because it's not US companies getting the contracts for it all.
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>>531205565
>>531206766
>EVs are objectively inferior to ICE vehicles in performance
China also produces best in the world plug in hybrids that combine best of both types of cars.



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