why do we allow religion to influence our politics? #2
>>531216557what? like abortion and gay rights?
Something something about men fearing divine punishment since laws are flawed.
>saar why fake we let religion in political saaarrrr?! I hurt UR Jesus izzat with meme?politics is downstream of culture which is informed by morality which in itself is informed by a world view/religion.>DURRRR FAK I XTIAN KIKE REEEEEE HAIL HARE VINSHU
We don't.
>>531216557Religion is the only thing that should influence politics. The evidence is there for all to see. As we have moved further and further from religious influence, society has steadily declined.
>>531216557Oh hey, the shitalian who stole my bags in Milan.Because religion is right wing coded meanwhile gaytheism and even paganiggers are left leaning.Don't trust me? One word;>Sporus.That's your pagan/atheist heritage.Who would you rather pick:>Literal faggot emperor >Pope Urban ll
>>531217070Sigh...
>>531217028Go die for Israel
>>531216557People already figured centuries ago that religicucks are absolute retards and can't be trusted, you can't be a nationalist if your holy land is some foreign desert shithole. Secularism was a thing for a good reason.
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>>531214971>>531215773So if mustering a large amount of troops means youre not in a dark age, and Charlemagne could muster 100,000 troops, not to mention the 100,000 crusaders that would invade the holy lands 200 years later...When exactly was this 1000 year dark age?
>>531217228Are you a nigger from chad or a Gypsy from Romania?I don't know which is worse
>>531217247The fag parade is over at reddit
>>531217354Sorry wrong pic
>>531217228israel in the bible isn't the same as israel the country. just so you know.
Lmao,Imagine still believing in g-d,people are retards>>531216557
>>531217283>no sources>trust me broShow me a battle where both crusaders and Charlemagne could muster 100k in a battle?
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>>531217244Oh hey, the guys who had slaves that ruined modern day U.S.Funny how the KKK is purely Christian themed, huh?
>>531216557why do we allow politics to influence morality?
>>531216557>DEUS VULT
>>531217306Stop larping as an ancient jew turkroach>>531217410You too
>>531217458>celsusThe guy who praised Shindians?
JUDAISM IS THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION!
>>531217525Woah, roaches are your gayllies.
>>531217471whenever i see KKK mention i just have to post this song, its so damn catchy.https://youtu.be/aiFgi1FXrwI?t=20
>>531216557Ask Rome, the thing that you glorify apparently. That beast is still in alive today and by far the wealthiest most influential thing in the world. An ancient usurpation of the Gospel, and a billion people think they have the authority of Jesus Christ on earth through their Roman "holy father". It is the whore of Babylon, that is what your beloved Rome has become. Tell them to stop this nonsense if you want, tell them to become pagan if you want, the problem is nobody believes any pagan myths anymore, because there is just no legitimacy behind that, it was always the deification of a mortal man at the end fo the day, the emperor and later the pope. Pagan Rome and Papal Rome are always politically motivated humanist entities. They do not care about the truth of God's word.
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>>531217649>textDidn't read lol
>>531217594You mean yours?
>>531217719You were on that team remember anon, how you attacked Hungary?Or are you from Chad you literal nigger?
>>531217633>I asked for a battle>retarded mutt shows the whole crusadeWhy are amerimutts like this?
>>531217837The reconquista
>>531217791>retarded turkroach can't make difference between WW1 and WW2I am bot surprised they don't teach ww1 in turkroach schools considering how fucked you got by the brits and russians
>>531217837every discussion with christanzees goes on like this, you'll start hating them more than jews and niggers put together
>>531217649>Atheist supporting pagan Romans because they are anti ChristianSo you really do not care about being Atheist. You are just anti Christian. Explains why you suck Muslim dick
>>531217968You literally had a treaty of mutual defense written with Germany and Austria-Hungary written in 1883.You pussied out and joined the (((entente))) in 1916.Or am i wrong?
>>531218013Funny how you never go against shindus or mudslimes
>>531216347wrong again.correlation is not causation.example: the rise of sunglasses sales correlates both with the hot sun and the melting of ice creams.does that make sense to you?>>531216453you are going off tangent you are not even agreeing about the same topic
>>531218112He's right.With the rise of atheism came the rise of neoliberalism.
>>531217426 >In light of the size of the population of Charlemagne's empire, it should not be surprising that those who study Carolingian military demography now see the emperor as being able to put into the field for offensive military operations, intended for the conquest of enemy territory, several armies in any given year, which when taken in the aggregate could reach a total in the neighbourhood of 100,000 effectiveshttps://www.proquest.com/openview/e4d64bf909701fb02cf34ec81feddc33/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=32579>Charlemagne...could muster for simultaneous major campaigns perhaps 150,000 men, of whom at least 35,000 were heavily armed mounted troops>The Cambridge History of Warfare
>>531218093hindus and mudslimes don't spam the board to death with a cacophony of "crust is lard" screeches and attempt to declare every European achievement as theirs like christanzees do and did ruining this place
>>531218057>defense>austria hungary attacking SerbiaWhy are turkroaches who live in Berlin like this?
>>531218257>Muslims do not brag about being Muslims.
>>531217837The Gauls only mustered 100,000 troops because it was literally every fighting age gaul. Are you fucking retarded?
>>531218257There's 136,000,000 Christians in China.How come you never frame it as a chink religion?Because it isn't?
>>531218307>changes what is being said againit's all so tiresome, look, we get it, you are far worse than jews, at this point there's no need to hammer the point down further, we get it
>>531218247Retarded christnigger still can't make difference between a campaing and battle
>>531218275Answer the question nigga
>>531218401Lol
>>531218401Muslim countries have higher circumcision rates than the US
>>531218349>gauls>only 100k>retardedThe irony
>>531218384it's not, it's an african religion of shit colored animals like yourself who have to desperately repaint everything European because you know the achievements of non-European christrats are laughable/non-existent
>>531216557devil
>>531218490mudslimes are dysgenic turds but at least they are open in their subhumanity, christrats outdo jews in their feminine tactics of subversion, lies and gaslighting, as this thread neatly demonstrates for the millionth time
>>531218419Medieval Christians persecuted jews.It's the whole reason the kikes have the golem mythBecause Christian Prague was persecuting them?Naaaah.
>>531218511Did you just frame shit as a bad thingThat lowers your pagan izzat saar
>>531218511And it is clearly making you seethe.
>>531218508Ya... maybe the "exaggerated" part on Caesars numbers escaped you. Charlemagne had hosts of 40,000. Is that the dark ages faggot?
>>531218666yes, sorry, you may not use it to cook with it, christjeet
>>531218611Turkroach kike slave
>>531218511You can put a tux on a monkey, its still a monkey
>>531218791LmfaoY'all are literal jeets you dehati subhumie
>>531218671as long as hatred against christrats grows I'm doing good Sambo
>>531216557Religion and Politics were the same thing for the Romans.Separation of Church and State came from Christianity.
>>531218815cool it with the antichristian remarks>>531218839projection is a helluva drug
>>531218804Saaar hunan sacrifice for Vishnu pagan vagene
>>5312189142 twatter handles? Really nigga?You have *LITERAL* shrines dedicated to cock
>>531218988>most major christanzees accounts with thousands of followers were jeetsthe cope is delicious christjeet
This thread is aids and hiv.
>>531218858Christianity will still be around long after anyone on this board has died.
>>531218768>exaggeratedThat's what a kike would sayOfcourse kikes like you hate pagan romans like Caesar and shill Charlemagne. Everything is exaggerated for kikes. You gonna talk about muh 6 gorillion too now kike?
>>531219053Sporus saaar
>>531218988Lol.
>>531219058>aids and hivfunny way to spell christianity in 2026
>>531219104Sure thang saar
>>531218924>german flag>calls me indianThe irony
>>531219147He was trying to spell Hivashnu for pagan goddess
>>531219091aids, malaria and ticks as well, no doubts about it, when every other christian is a nigger ape from the congo it's easy gametry converting locusts too
>>531216557We are in the age of Aquarius right now. These energies are clearly dominant in society.Science is the dominant religion of society. The impersonal interactions of internet and social media are very Aquarian.Saturn and Mercury are dignified in this Age - there has never been a better time to seek out information that was hidden away in previous Ages. Saturn is said to quickly bring the results of karma in this Age. Sun is afflicted in Aquarius, meaning that men, fathers and careers don't receive the respect they deserve.Proponents of medieval astrology suggest that the Piscean world where religion is the opiate of the masses will be replaced in the Aquarian Age by a world ruled by secretive, power-hungry elites seeking absolute power over others; that knowledge in the Aquarian Age will only be valued for its ability to win wars; that knowledge and science will be abused, not industry and trade; and that the Aquarian Age will be a Dark Age in which religion is considered offensive.In short, it means Aquarius drowns everything in the waters of information. Expect unlimited psyops, techno-hell, and the rise of transhumanism in public possibly. Basically, their thousand year plan is coming to fruition and it's over, nobody is coming to save you. Goodnight.
>>531219104The holocaust never happened. Im guessing youve just given up on the dark ages argument?
>>531219205Ofcourse no shindu would migrate to your shitholeIf you're from chad, you steal shit because niggers, if Romani, you steal shit regardless because you're a gypsy
>>531219160Nice try jeet but your scams will not work with me
>>531219339Kek, knew it, it's a jeet
So much hatred... how about we spread love instead... its what odin would've wanted.
>>531219334No jeets just hate being around whites. No problem for jeets like you to be in Germany since no one is white there
>>531219112amateur
>>531216885Where religion flourishes God abandons. The US government has never been more overtly religious than it is today.
>>531219385Why are you talking about yourself?
>>531219385Gypsys are descended from them.
>>531219681That's why germans and westoids like him love them so much?
>why do our convictions on how the world should run affect our conviction on how the world should run?In reality separating religion and law is in itself nonsensical and only makes sense if you want to secretly neuter and abolish the dominant religion in the country.Which is of course precisely what the freemasons and jews wanted, whem they spread liberalism and laicism all over the world.
>>531216557HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>531219569I wonder if it's the same excremental christhominid that has been spamming this shit https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/531135854/#531144025
>>531217354You lost Christranny
>>531219842Being like that for years. They are just brownoid and zogbots
>>531217028all christian leaders fucked children of peasant farmers who could no longer pay their taxes.so much for "christianization"
>>531216557The most important laws the government enforces, mirror the rules of religious organizations. usually anti-violence, anti-theft, and fraud laws. so many people would say that governments only mirror and reflect what the goal of religious organizations try to accomplish, which is following god and living in a good world through restrictions of sin. how people have not put 2 and 2 together is retarded. especially when the notion of early man was just a group of anarchist societies that have no rules except the rule of domination, then it makes sense why religious organizations exist, and why governments exist.
Look at the silence. Israeli bots went to sleep since it's sabbath tomorrow and no more christcuck posting anymore kek
>>531220313>>531219294>guessing youve just given up on the dark ages argument?
>>531216885what about facts?what about crime statistics?what about anything else that truly matters for the well being of society?>>531217028>Oh hey, the shitalian who stole my bags in Milan.we call them gypsies>>531217028Confucianism is not a religion and it's manly conservative and right wing>Who would you rather pickNero.he never partook in wars of conquest.however, the only war he partake was in Judea because Jews were rebelling, after quieting everything he let the Jews sail and go to Spain untouched.they never got kicked out by Nero nor harassed.pope Urban sent men to die in exchange for a place in paradise .he was the first to invent the concept of "indulgences", either by money or blood you can pay for your sins
>>531216557Religion is a person's core belief. Of course it influences how people vote. So it influences politics.
>>531220527What argument retard. What to argue with retards like you? You debunked nothing and can't tell the difference between a campaing and battle. Kys
>>531220545>picking Nero
>>531220655You stated in the last thread, "Christians caused a 1000 year dark age". I went on to ask you what made something a dark age, and you said the inability to field a large number of troops. Considering how many crusaders were raised, and how many troops Charlemagne could muster, when were these dark ages youre talking about?
>>531216974>The guy that cucked by Sulla?You mean the most competent roman general that took out the entire Celtic tuetonic invasion single handedly and the only reason it happened was because Rome had to break its own laws just to fight the invasion and re elect Marius to consul several times because no one else could do the job and sulia murdering law and order in Rome(the very problem that led to its inevitable collapse) by playing along with every other criminal with power in Rome by assassinating his political threats to power that inevitably caused the Roman Republic to collapse without a single christian or jew in the casting of this retarded bit of history?Gaius Marius was only consul because the Republic had no other General which could protect rome.Sulla committed selfish action which resulted in the downfall of the Republic long term because he destroyed the social and lawful pact which was the spirit of Rome.The very fact you have the nerve to insult Marius tells me you know nothing of what he did for Rome and the glory he brought to the empire by defeating the first Germanic northern invasion into italy outnumbered by the hundreds of thousands.Blaming Gaius for Sulla's political treachery and targeting of Marius(the only man he knew that could of stopped him had the Empire had time to respond to Sulla's treasonous coup ) and that meme you posted is a falsity.Unironically kill yourself you dishonest revisionist cuck.Also>Trashing on Marius, who achieved victory in the Cimbric Warn after the morning he performed a sacrifice to his Pantheon as a blessing on his troops for the coming battle, a literal plea to the Gods) completely exposed your false claims to champion "paganism" you filthy larping kikeSulla was a godless incompetent piece of shit who only gained power because prior to his coup and megalomaniac reach for power the consuls of rome never had a back stabbing nigger in their midst before
>>531216557Cuz politics came from religion dipshits: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9ADtIDJK-CC_Oly49i7M8eeriC29l7lI&si=DbYITC9VPYzhyfuk
>>531220720pope Urban II during his time he was alive was directly responsible for the death of 100k-200k Christians, most of them died of disease or trying to get to Jerusalem but starved.the death toll for Christians alone for all the crusades is 70 million.Nero was responsible for the death of less than a 1000 Christians
>>531221554no it didn't.it came from Greece through Aristotle
>>531221884>100k-200kRookie numbersCambodia got that beat by a long shotIf you want dead Christian poors, farmers and families massacred, you call a (((Marxist)))
>>531216885Religion shouldn't influence politics.Communism shouldn't influence politics.Nazism shouldn't influence politics.Wokeism shouldn't influence politics.Feminism shouldn't influence politics.Any authoritarian or tyrannical ideology shouldn't influence politics.Liberty is the only way forward
>>531221884The crusades were so popular that the word "crusader", almost a thousand years later, means "person ferociously fighting for a just cause"Im guessing you didnt want the muslims kicked out of europe though, kike? No white nationalist is even capable of being against the crusades. Pagan or not. Stop letting your nose show through
People always seek solace in a higher power or ideal, so you need to direct that desire back in a way so it is healthy and productive for society.Banning religion is like banning authority, or free trade, or social interaction. You can't do it without causing serious problems in the long term, because either that desire will be turned toward something vapid and evil instead, or it will cause massive discontent to build up until it can no longer be contained.
>>531222074It came from Rome through the Father of Philosophy Cicero and his Golden Thesis of Natural Law, which paved the way for Christian philosophy through AquinasYou are out of your depth here along with the other mako sharks in this threadYou are in Great White territory
>>531222142>Liberty is the only way forwardOk get to work sourcing your own materials for repairs, food, water, energy, and everything else larpfag.Only the Amish can make such a statementKNEEL
>>531216557>war in iran starts>anti christian posting ramps upI'm noticing.
>>531222153ad hominem.crusades did not start because Christians wanted to kick out Muslims out of Europe.the objective was to take Jerusalem back.that's it.it wasn't a crusade the kicking out of Muslims in Europe.the king Philip III got sick of Jews and Muslims so he kicked them out, it was an economical interest no crusades involved>>531222349it's funny you say that, because you cut out the part where you are supposed to say Cicero translated Greek political science.>Thesis of Natural Lawplease tell me you are joking, right? Aristotle was the father of natural law he paved the Way for Cicero, he was heavily inspired by him.Cicero quoted his quotes so many times in his works like in this: "nature produces nothing in vain; the body exists for the soul, the soul for the rational faculty in it, the rational faculty in its turn for the philosophic reason"
>>531216711>>531216777>>531216799digits /thread
>>531216557Because all your decisions are made with your metaphysical perspective. I prefer Christianity, you prefer Talmud. Problem is you are pretending Talmud values is normality.
>>531218384I just now learned that China has churches.
>>531223687>Over 15 minutesBusy shilling in another spammed d&c thread?
>>531223687>supposed to say Cicero translated Greek political science.Plato only barely mentions Natural Law in his worksHe might of coined or hinted at its existence, but it was Cicero who was the one who extrapolated on it to such Greatness that he is literally known by his peers and historic descendent scholars as "The Father of Elegant Philosophy"Now fuck off shill, the idea that you are attacking these named early pre Christian romans just because you think you are arguing with a Christian instead of just your run of the mill realist with critical thinking is not only a pathetic shadow cast upon your character, but reveals also a clear bias into your thinking, making it illogical, emotional and therefore flawed.Grow up you crying crossdresser
>>531224192I prefer either.you base your decisions like it's a metaphysical matter when you are willingly to put absolute faith in man made scriptures that the testament of time have showed zero proficiency in the best interest of white people>>531224701I was eating fish sticks with ketchup and mayo. are you going to argue and support your claims or stay ignorant in your own puerile?>>531225039I said Aristotle...
The OP is jam boy coded.
>>531225313>eating fish sticks with ketchup and mayo.Your thread is dying, so tell me more, got a picture?I'm a /ck/ ninja pizza anon, even if it's slop I want to hear about what anyone and everyone is eating(other than bodily fluids)We are clearly diametrically opposed to each others political views and honestly in 2026 I am bored of endlessly fighting with each and every random flag out there over my religion.At this point it doesn't make sense because none of you live with me or are my girlfriend so why the fuck should I humor it and care that you have a dishonest or flawed idea of things?Maybe it's because I am drinking right now, but you... I am so bored of fighting with you anti christ pasta anon, we've been at this for years.Has either one jackbooted into the others home to add to the white deaths globally?No.I would love to discuss the history of rome, or food, and cooking, or philosophy with anyone here, without the attempts to twist history to suit our narratives or ideas about religion.The western Roman empire couldn't be consolidated because it fell prey to the same corruption that killed the Republic(backstabbing, murder of political opponents openly in the street which crushes public order and trust in the written law, pillaging and open theft)Had already taken holdIt's the very reason the split happenedEastern Rome would of collapsed the same in time, but in my opinion was only "saved"(no pun) because it had a revolutionary "Reform" through Christianity becoming the chief religion.And no, I am not saying only Christianity could of done this, but it by some chance was what was available to act as a new spiritual movement, a "Revival" as it were to the Spirit that built the Roman Empire.Bringing order through Natural Philosophy, inspired by men like Cicero and followed by AquinasPagan Ritual and Rites(Cathols)And Christ(resurrection of the ideal of reaching for human and spiritual perfectionism from calamity to obtain prosperity
>>531216799WrongCulture, morality and religion are all downstream of ethnicityMutt having no ethnos try to cope otherwise
>>531217028christian honesty on full displayWhy do you people constantly lie and slander ancient Europeans?
>>531226642>Culture, morality and religion are all downstream of ethnicityCulture and morality only exists in white religious communities.And the black hairy armed muttstralian anti christian ITT?Tsk tsk.Don't make me slap you around anymore, stick armed troon
>>531218429Take the L mate, that didn't go well for you
>>531226908Also, read >>531226376I am tired of having our domestics together with you too.
>>531216557Before and after christianity it didn't changed, religion was always important to the masses since it was and is part of their world view and universe.
>>531219812fuck you bloody basterd saar
>>531219874>every projection is a confessionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphroditus#Cult_and_worship
>>531226376>Your thread is dyingthat's ok it's shabbat, I guess computers are considered work.this was nothing but a sequel to tie loose ends.>It's the very reason the split happenedthink about it logically, do you think with the current political settings and the rampant corruption in institutions would cause the European union to split?it doesn't
>>531218479>some normal people kill a tiny handful of jews>Pope issues Sicut Judaeis decrees giving them special rights, privileges and protection and every pope for 300 years keeps adding to it
>>531219812Polls are skewed>None are a solid 80%, always halfsies on most to imply (you should be more like this)I don't trust survey resultsNever willI will post them to troll, but that's about it.I was the OC anon who first posted the "94% of atheists" gay marriage graph.But an anon once pointed out to me that it was around 3 thousand people max in that survey, and made a diatribe about "the kind of people who take surveys" which hit me as true because I don't take surveys, and I would make some serious noise if I walk into a church and some woman or crossdresser is talking politics from the podium.However, I don't attend churches so this is irrelevant.But I see the corruption in many mainstream "churches".You wanna know a secret?Atheists in the 90s, on actual social levels(not Hollywood) would only come at us about the big "Organized Religion" argument.And honestly, I remember a time when we could agree on that.I never push my religion or beliefs on anyone.Did you know there are over 20 million white Christians in America who do not Vote, Ever?
>>531219874>I'm a crossdresser in direct contradiction to Christ's teachings>I'm somehow a ChristianYou lost trannyThe rulebook is right there.You can't argue for cheating as a new rule against the Dungeon Masters Guide Original Edition Rules russotroon, it's what keeps us from a dog eat dog world :)
>>531227257>that's ok it's shabbatNot in America And that only happens on Sundays, the most beautiful and peaceful day of the week anywhere in America
>>531216557You realize the Romans actually regretted crucifying Jesus and they were coerced by the Jews, right?
>>531228037>source: trust me(the most jewish man who ever lived) brofunny Tacitus doesn't mention that
>>531226642Indian argument. Argument thrown to the shitter, barbarian
I struck your heart chords OP,Your lack of response to my post arguing for light conversation and peace has been met with a discontent silence.You can sense it deep within you can you not?That at our core, beyond the shit posting, we are both in the same boat...
>>531228191Leave him alone1. He's mine2. See >>531226376And fall in line RicoThese aren't paid shillsThey are activistsWhich makes them, technically...people
>>531216557Only stupid people care about god
>>531229012Yet the occultodgers keep winning and ruling over you, how curious
>>531229012one of those circles is entirely about God
>>531231678Atheists were right we should skin theists alive
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>>531231678Spiritual does not always refer to your desert cult. I would argue its proper use never does.
>>531232109I use capital G because it's my way but you can use lower case if you spares your womanly sensibilities.
>>531217028they don't even understand what their pagan gods actually are, they have no clue that univerisally all pagan rituals worship saturn and its golden age when it was the previous sun like every single culture prescribed it, with Venus moving orbit looking like a dragon and Jupiter(Zeus) appearing from behind Saturn. All fall in the fallen angels category, all fall short of any spiritual meaningfulness, only self worship, no other religion offers what Christianity offers which is why it triumphed over all other cults like Mithras or Sol Invictus, but the average retards with tik tok iq knowledge won;t understand that kikes killed Christ as it is stated several times in the Bible and during every liturgy, most are literally israeli bots
>>531216557All humans are delusional idiots.
>>531216557Christianity as is not practiced or theory'd or whatever other lies, is perfect. >bans abortion >bans gays>bans racemixingThose three things if gone tomorrow would save whites.
>>531216557because youre a fucktard who thinks that god is omnipotent and not a evil higher dimensional being who created a fake universe to lie rape and cheat and stealgod is the moral equivalent of rick from rick and morty but at least rick gets bored eventually unlike this narcissitic rat fuck nigger rapist known as jesusthe source of all evil
>>531232554A malevolent God wouldn't ban these three things. >bans abortion>bans gays>bans racemixing
