ITS HAPPENING!!!!! Mexicans are more white than anglo Americans.
>>531229314More likely they traded with them at some point
Latinx after all
>>531229314How is that evidence?
debooonked as hoax years ago. Someone planted it in the tomb to prank the archeologist. .
>>531229577Yep. Romans did not have the seafaring ability to make it that far.
>>531229314In all honestly people from Europe reached america before. For a fact vikings reached vinland and supposedly lived in north america. All those tribes were pretty fucked up and the aztec for example lost partly because everyone hated them and smallpox.
>Be Romans east coast >Meet the injuns >RED >Be Mexicans west coast
Montezuma was lighter skinned than the rest of the Aztecs. This is recorded in the Bernal Diaz book. This suggest that White people are the master race, no matter where they go. Then, when a lot of master race Spaniads arrived, the Aztecs couldn't keep pace.
>>531229314>this is supposedly new>never mind the copper mine on the lakes that was apparently exploited in antiquityMexicans? Really?
>>531229992Quetzalcoatl was depicted as a red-haired and bearded god. The reason that Cortez was welcomed as a returning god, is because White men had visited SA many years before. It was likely Atlanteans, who resided in heligoland, which was a peninsula, but were displaced by a flood around 4000BC, according to geological records. They then circumnavigated the world, sharing technology, civilization and dna, before becoming the sea peoples in 1200bc, then becoming the Scythians in 800bc, then disappearing around 400bc, migrating to Scotland and Ireland, where we see their red-haired descendants today.
>>531229314We wuz Caesars n shheei
>>531230970You wuz till we injuns bred the white out you and civilized you
>>531229648They did.It just made no sense to sail west without knowing if you would ever reach land.Maybe some cunt went a month or two before turning back.Also, when Europeans "discovered" America, they either already knew from high sea fishermen or they were already planning on a really long trip to reach Asia.
>>531229734This. Too many people obsess over recent history. People have been connected over great distances for a very long time. However, during the dark ages of Europe those distant tangential connections broke down. Then when they were reestablished. People who were ignore of the past declared "we found the new world."
>>531229314Roman frescos and mosaics? Foundations of a harbor? Remains of a ship? A legion standard? Nah, random rock!
>>531229314they've found stuff like this across north america, why is mainstream academia so fucking gay
>>531229314>>531229648Rome had the technology, that was never a problemThe issue was always logistics and political will or incentive to undertake an extensive colonization project, not if a boat could make it, but if it could be financed and sustained over decades>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNug1Y0ysXwvideo discusses a theoretical on a colonization effort using existing roman tech
>>531229314or some spanish or italian guy just brought an artifact with him to the new world and left it there
>>531229314Romans had copper that can be traced to the great lakes. The knights Templar were in the Americas as well long before. Columbus intentionally flew the Templar flag on his ships after he figured out their secret knowing that some natives would recognize it from prior positive interactions. He used that trust and abused it and ended up in chains just a few short years later.
>>531229314It wasn't Romans, it was Tartarians, they were all oever the globe with their star forts, pyramids, free energy and matter transmutation (they didn't have plumbing, heating or toilets in the buildings we inherited, so clearly had another method of providing and disposing).
>>531229734Curse of Oak Island has all but proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Templars were in Nova Scotia prior to the 1200s. Our entire history is a lie.
>>531229314Cant wait until people find out about the Chapultepec Aqueducts. Basically Roman Aqueducts that have been in Mexico for like 2,000 years.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapultepec_aqueduct
>>531229464Roman ships were not suitable for the open sea.Ironically, the tech to cross oceans was either developed in China or India and later adopted by Arabs and then absorbed by Portuguese and Spanish people.If they did reach the Americas, it was by accident, in small numbers, and they probably never were able to go back.
>>531230053No, not mexicans. Those mines are around the great lakes.
>>531232580You are confusing it.The Amerindian one was made by carving water paths in stone/hard clay. But the water stayed dirty for an entire week after any rain. Then the Spanish build, using the Roman ones as an example, to get "clean" water.This shit is well documented; there are records of how much this cost and how many people were involved in the work.
>>531229314>may beShut the fuck up, beaner. Don't you have a child to rape?
>>531233371trump is the one raping children.
>>531229573>pathetic
>>531232228There's no evidence Roman Copper came from the Americas you dumb nigger
>>531232701Nords island hopping most likely
>>531232701>Ironically, the tech to cross oceans was either developed in China or India and later adopted by Arabs and then absorbed by Portuguese and Spanish peopleAnti-European propaganda.
>>531232701Carthagians and Vikings can and did reach North America, Basque peoples too, and even the Celtic peoples of Wales, Ireland, and Scotland.
>>531233888Nords actually described their sea adventures, but their ships were also not very suitable for long distances (as attested by the records of the colonisation attempt of Greenland by Erik the Red, where 1/3 of the ships were lost).Not hard to see why they gave up on North America and Greenland (especially after the Black Plague that wiped out the superpopulation).
>>531231380The Greeks did, the Romans did not
>romans>whiteThey were the mutts of their time
>>531229314holy shit
>>531229734Europeans had already reached America in the stone age, the bronze age and before the middle ages.
>>531232121Thats too logical
>>531229314T A R T A R I AARTARIA
>>531229314Atlanteans aka catholicism
>>531229314That's nothing, Egyptians and Mayans were already in contact a thousand years before any euros got here.
>>531229314It was the opposite. Mexicans are the original Romans. They went from Mexico to Italy. Mexicans were building pyramids and aqueducts, roads and cities ways before the Romans.
>>531229314what in the nigger is happening, bros. I don't like this.
>>531229314Columbo a jewish lie?No wayOy vey
>spain was part of the roman empire>spain created mexico>'WE WUZ ROMANZ N SHIT BRITS BE BARBARIANS N SHITbut spic-kun, britain was also a part of the roman empire, so that makes them just as roman as you>'-ACK'but on a serious note, why are mexcrements on /pol/ so uniquely obsessed with 'anglos'? wtf did we do to you, juan?
>>531229314das rite. bow to be gringo barbarian. we wuz romanz ese
>>531234045Vikings did reach what is now Canada and even tried to build a colony. But it was abandoned because they could not maintain a supply of people and resources.There is absolute no evidence of Carthaginian presence in any part of America.>Basque peoples tooYeah, after the Arab conquest shipbuilding technology slowly spread north. But they did not venture past the Azores.>Celtic peoples of Wales, Ireland, and Scotland.They were never known for being shipbuilders.>>531234037>Anti-European propaganda.The Arabs who built the first transatlantic ships were technically European, as they had lived in Europe for 800 years until the Reconquista.The Arabs could not sail long distances because they had a ban on alcohol, and at that time, it was impossible to preserve water for long periods of time (a trip from Europe to any part of the Americas took about 3 months); Europeans could brew their beer as they went and have access to "small beer" that was potable.
>>531234854CEASAR!
>>531229573It has a roman copyright and date on the bottom. It was a marketing gimmick given out for pride weak at Rome's largest Pussy festival by a specific boy brothel, the Bubble Butt Emporium.
>>531230970You're far more Caesar than you are Quetzalcoatl, and the only reason more of you don't think so is because you're corny ass revolutionary government did a cultural revolution 100 years ago.>chingame we have to ban canta claus, mang>build a pyramid in the soccer stadium POR LA GENTE DE LA GRAN RAZA COSMICA>quetzalcoatl will give out the presents instead, ese>ay guey the keeeedz they still like the santa claus it's over mang
what if the spaniards bring this old artifact with them, this is retarded
>>531229314i wondered since i was a kid why the eagle and serpent in my flag was very similar to the roman eagle eating a serpent
>>531234785perfidious albion is majorly responsible for the collapse of the Spanish Empire and the ensuing chaos that has plagued their former colonies since, and that's just how laputa has fucked us over directly, fucking anglos are usually the main culprit behind many if not most of the major problems in the world.
>>531235648Eagles are very popular in European culture.
>>531229734Those secrets they hide in the grand canyon.
WE
>>531234785>why are mexcrements on /pol/ so uniquely obsessed with 'anglos'?go to /his/ and get some of the spiczos riled up about the black legend and you'll understand exactly why they hate us
>>531229314Makes sense they both like fucking boys
>>531235827yeah, not saying is the same shit, but the story behind the mexican simbol is very sus
>>531235648>Eagles exist>They like eating snakes>Monkey see eagle eat snake>CoolSeems like a simpler answer to me
>>531235917WUZ
>>531229314Fake and gay. Big if true.
>>531232701> Ironically, the tech to cross oceans was either developed in Chinabwahahaha retard. It's not only the compass that allows navigation
>>531236125Before the French Revolution, flags used to have a lot of meaning.Look at the coat of arms of Finland.It's a Lion (popular between Norse countries) holding a western sword while it denounces his eastern past and tradition (stepping over a sabre).
>>531231380Columbus straight up did not believe the calculations that accurately demonstrated he was not going to be able to make the voyage to Japan. He was a dunce who insisted on proving the math wrong through demonstration, and accidentally found an entirely new continent along the way. Don't believe me? His crew was on the brink of mutiny due to starvation before they sighted land.
>>531229314Why wouldn't they write about it though? Maybe the aliens left it there.
I believe it. Anglos used to live in mud huts until the Romans civilized them.
>>531234868Pardon my ignorance, but beer was used as preserved hydration? Was it just incredibly low in alcohol content?
>>531232701>Ironically, the tech to cross oceans was either developed in China or India and later adopted by Arabs and then absorbed by Portuguese and Spanish people.this is retarded because the carrack is based of of the hulk, which was developed by the swedes and baltics to hold the most amount of cargo possible and be able to sail through the north sea and around the coast of iberia.
>>531236844not hulks, cogs. stupid me had aoe2 on the brain
>>531236107Spaniards made up the story of the eagle eating a snake precisely because it made sense to them as it was a familiar symbol, the Mexica foundation symbol is neither an eagle nor a snake, but that's how Spaniards interpreted it.
>>531232228so what, the mummies in egypt had cocaine in them and they're gooks
>>531236386China went all the way to South America and South Africa during the Ming golden age. This was 70 years before Christopher Columbus, and the fleet was so big that it was only surpassed in WWII.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_HeFun fact. This guy was a Chinese Muslim.
>romaboo spaniard brings a token of rome for goodluck in his endless conquering>spics find it>we wuz rome and shit
>>531236961>the Mexica foundation symbol is neither an eagle nor a snakereally? so what was?
>>531236826you can cut the fermentation short.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_beerBeer was crazy important for the colonisation of the Americas, as we depended on shitty springs. And during the Industrial Revolution, it was the only source of potable water in Europe for any medium- to large-sized city.Even children used to drink beer.
>>531232701>bricsoid anti west propagandavikangs found america first cope seethe and dilate
>>531229314Great article, but it's a nothing burger.Either a stray Roman or Greek ship caught in a storm off Europe's western coast, drifting straight over to Yucatán, just as the tradewinds go.Or, the artifact was on an early voyage such as that from Columbus, and traded with natives for gold. According to the timeline presented by the article, that would've given several decades for the artifact to have wound up buried in a tomb by 1510.Or, a "cheeky archaeologist" messing with the dig and planting an old Roman head there.Far, far more likely scenarios before you even get to the most remote chance that Romans actually settled in the new world before Columbus
>>531236437Sure, plenty of crests and flags are deliberately made with symbolic importance, but with mythology and folklore in particular humans have a tendency to make up a story after the fact to explain the origin of things if the reason is unclear or forgotten.
>>531229314Gringoys and nordcucks btfo!!!!!Spicx bros WAGMIWE WUZ ROMANOS Y MIERDDAAAA
>>531229734The Basques had a basw for cod fishing in Canada when Jacque Cartier arrived " a thousand or so euskara fishermen were encamped salting codfish" ,the history we are told versus what we can read from people who were their first hand is crazy.
>>531231861What was Britian if not a Frontier colony?
>>531231619No they haven't. There is no evidence of such nonsense and there is no "agenda" in big academia to keep this hidden. How could you even keep something like that hidden? There would be people stumbling across these kinds of ruins and artifacts and they would be talking about it. "Big academia" doesn't have some shadow agency working in the shadows that would silence anyone making such a find.
>>531232580Spanish built to replace the mud creek the indjuns used.
>>531229314impossible, it was practically impossible for sailors during antiquity to navigate without landmarks, every sea travel around the mediterranean was done by sticking to the coast and sailing for one island to the other. Why they would risk to sail the atlantic ocean when they wouldn't even dare to sail blindly into the mediterranean?
>>531234452This.
>>531230356Nigger no its not lmao their god is giant reptilian serpent
>>531234868Mate you tell bullshit like a meth head steals lighters.You are wrong but that is expected from a Brazilian who is owes his entire country existing to an Anglo man named Thomas Cockrayne who ignored orders and blockaded Brazil.Your Anglo hate is retarded don't let it obstruct you from seeing the truth.
>>531237334The winged beast is based on a caracara and is in fact Huitzilopochtli not an eagle, and the snake like thing coming from its beak is the atlachinolli, a sacred Aztec symbol akin to the yin yang.
>>531229314Mexico is romanian clay
>>531236844>>531236917Cogs had flat bottoms to better sail rivers and deep shallow ports. Really not suitable for open sea trips.And the name carrack literally is an adaptation of an Arab name.If this makes you feel better, Europe and Asia were completely outclassed by catamarans. A fucking tribe that could not even master the simplest metals made small ships that literally made circles around what were at the time the fastest ships in Europe.Europe only became the indisputable master of technology when they decided to overspend and put metal in their ships and steam engines. At that point the whole world became their bitch.
>>531236712Stone and earthworks with daubed render actually ,that's what the Romans said so mudhut is inaccurate maybe try turf hut to be truthful at least.
>>531237400Correct. Vikings taking it to Greenland and giving it to snow niggers, Inuits trading it to prairie niggers, and prairie niggers passing it along to mesoamerican niggers would be more likely than a Roman expedition making it here. Which is not impossible, granted, it's just wildly preposterous and not backed by anything.
>>531237335(My ip may change but I'm the same beer anon) I never really looked into that, the only thing Ive heard about beer being used for hydration was something about Egypt but it was probably a bit different
>>531229314Or maybe ancient demographics were different and all great civilizations were original white before collapsing after getting browned by shitskins
>>531237348>vikangsNorseman.'Vikings' technically is a word for raiders.Norsemen were pretty good sailors (low-profundity sailors); they went all the way from Iceland to Iran (Caspian Sea), trading slaves and stuff.Yes, they did reach Canada and attempt to settle Greenland, but they could not handle the logistics, and everyone in those colonies died.We are not discussing who got first to America; anyone could have been lucky enough to be carried to Europe in a fucking tree if he survived the trip by a miracle. We are talking about people who had the capability to come and go when it pleased them.
>>531238235No wonder you are typing shit you are a Wikipedia retard , ya pictures says probably arab via Latin maybe Greek so it isn't an arab origin like you stated.
>>531229314Woooow, you mean the completely different architecture, building materials, and languages was actually Neo-Roman? Well I'm convinced.
>>531229648The Romans didn't, but the Carthaginians did.
>>531238675And they were Semites, once again proving that Mormonism was the one true faith after all.
>>531238061What I said that was wrong?>>531238414Beer was not only for hydration. It was a huge part of your diet because low-fermentation beer was very calorie-dense.The early history of America and beer is very interesting. Benjamin Rush (one of the guys who signed the Declaration of Independence) tried to get whisky banned, claiming that beer, wine and cider were the real American drinks.
>>531229734And the conquistadores were probably the most badass fucking warriors in all of history. Seriously. Hernan Cortez accomplishments in my opinion rival those of alexander the great. He conquered a fucking continent with, depending on how you count, 400-1200 men. That it. Thats the entirety of the european forces in the conquest of new spain.
>>531238675>but the Carthaginians didCarthaginian ships had food for a week max at sea. The trip would take 3 months.
>>531232701>>531229314Romans made it to the Azores, and from the Azores they could have been dragged by a storm during a stormy season. Probably a small amount of the population survived and assimilated with the Olmecs.
>>531239446>He conquered a fucking continent with, depending on how you count, 400-1200 menhe had over 100000k+ natives on his side. you bucktooth retard
>>531239446Diseases also helped a lot.Natives had no immunity to flu, cholera and other gifts that only the megacontinent of Eurasia can provide.The Aztecs also relied entirely on a pyramid scheme of slavery. When Europeans started to arrive in what is now Mexico seeking gold, the opportunity for vengeance against the Aztecs was seen as a blessing.Cortéz did not march on Tenochtitlan with a handful of horses and a couple of cannons, like we learn in school.He had amassed an incredible army of natives and led a rebellion against the Aztecs that crippled their entire empire overnight.
>>531239658>Romans made it to the AzoresNo evidence.We do have evidence of Norsemen reaching the Azores because researchers sequenced the DNA of rats (those islands are filled with rats) and found that rats in one of the islands came from Scandinavia, and the only way they could become the dominant rats was if they came there first and were allowed to breed freely.
>>531239658>of the populationOf the crew, I meant.Say a ship of 100 romans sailed from the Azores West to see what was there and maybe 2-10 survived to the Americas and married some Olmec girls.
>>531232701"natives" had origin stories that said the Tall Whites were there and taught them how to farm when the "natives" arrived. white people invented everything, modern humans are probably over a million years old and we're stuck doing the same stupid shit over and over, whites build, invite all others, jews enslave niggers and make them dance and sing, whites fight whites to save niggers, jews convince whites to adopt the fiat currency and make money doing nothing in the short term at the expense of the whole future and that's where we are now. whites wanna save everyone which is self-destructive, niggers just want attention which is self destructive, jews want everything but don't wanna break a sweat getting it and that's self destructive and asian/denisovans already found out the hard way what being nice to the jewanderthals gets you (extinction), but the issue is that everyone wants to be white and nobody wanted to be asian, now jews fuck shit up but since even they want to be white, they guarantee the survival of white genetics and white brain genetics don't want to fuck kids, eat longpig or worship satan
>>531237903>landmarks???Fucking stars bro, people have been navigating by the night sky for thousands and thousands of years.
>>531239468Can't you fish? Probably wouldn't be enough for the whole trip but surely it would extend the trip?
>>531230356we wuz n shiietkill yourself
>>531240209>white people invented everythingThere are preserved remains of ships with sails from the time when Scandinavia was a 10km tall block of ice. Literally before the fjords were made by the ice melting and sliding.What you call "white" is a varying admixture of Anatolian hunter-gatherer (AHG), Western Hunter Gatherers (WHG), Eastern Hunter Gatherers (EHG) and Western Steppe Herders (WSH).The only difference between different regions of Europe is the percentage of admixture of each group.Also, nothing is really invented but discovered and improved. From looking at a tree floating, to a dugout canoe, to a bunch of trunks tied together, to a sail, and so on until we reach the fucking spaceships. Places like China did A LOT of things first. Hell, 80% of what we eat was domesticated by the Chinaman. Yeah, Europe contributed to it; we made synthetic fertilisers and changed the world forever too. But claiming that we invented everything because it feels right is just stupidity.
>>531240344Saltwater fish is salty as fuck.The Greenland colony collapsed because they only had sea fish to eat when the Black Plague hit Europe and the grain ships stopped coming. The same shit happened with the people who tried to settle in Easter Island and the Falklands.
>>531235680>its DA ANGLOS fault we behead each others children and eat their hearts while they're still beatingno its not, juan
>>531240882>peoplenatives*Nowadays there are a lot of people in those places.
>>531239289Lol damn you're blowing my mind. No offense, but how does a Brazilian know so much about that kind of history? Are you a history buff?
>>531229314Quetzalcoatl was a white skinned man with a beard and blue eyesThere has definitely been a white landing in the Americas before Columbus>Quetzalcoatl, after the locals maddened him, burnt down his city of gold and left across the seas
>>531229314Seems more likely to me that Spanish brought things over, or even modern collectors.Remember Archaeology was the hot new thing in the 16th and 17th centuries.
>>531241076Nah, but I do like to read a bit.Every other book I like to pick something historic, even when it is not real (last month I read about the Goths, and it was a very amusing "we wuzz" reading).The beer stuff comes from a book I no longer remember, but it was one of those "microhistory books".This thread made me want to read 1421 (Chinese: we wuzz, written by a British admiral).Not going to lie. It's hard to find time to read, but 10 to 20 pages before reading is better than doom scrolling.
>>531241700>before readingbefore bed
>>531229314White mexicans are just Spaniards, while dark skin mexican are the conquered (by white people) aztecs.
>>531232701hard to know man only reason anyone Knows about Hanno going to the Congo is complete fluke. this kind of shit was kept top secret by the Carthaginians. a more modern example of this us when the Portuguese knew where Brazil was before they had officially sent expeditions
>>531229314HES RIGHT YOU KNOW
>>531242236True.We know for sure they had come to Brazil before 1495 because in 1495 a massive epidemic of syphilis started in Naples after French troops went there. And after that, it take over all of europe.Recently a lot of bodies were exhumed, and someone managed to sequence the virus and found a very disturbing genetic resemblance with natives from Brazil that died before the arrival of Europeans.Basically, our natives were immune to syphilis, but many of them carried the disease, and when sailors arrived here, they had too much fun and went back to Europe with the curse of the New World. I personally think it's very interesting the effects of syphilis in european history. People changed their clothes entirely to hide the disease.And the lack of early syphilis outbursts in Europe is also the reason why I claim that if Europeans did arrive in America way before Columbus, they never came back, because syphilis was endemic to the Atlantic littoral.
>>531229314If you look at the pyramids across the world they all have similarities. They also line up with the constellations. What kind of people do you know that used stars and charts to navigate other than Europeans?
>>531229464More likely some nordics who traded with romans traveled to america via greenland
>>531241700Well for what it's worth you have inspired me to read more about this stuff. Thanks bunda bro
>>531243294no problemo.Also, if you want a good first reading.Look up for "Ahmad ibn Fadlan" (worst case scenario, just download a pdf)He was an Arab diplomat who was banished from Baghdad because he fucked the wife of someone. He was sent to the court of the Bulgars in what is now Russia (the Bulgars first lived in the Volga River before coming to europe), but in the middle of the way he was attacked by bandits and was saved by Norse traders who spared his life and took him to Scandinavia because some old lady said he was a lucky amulet (they were very superstitious).The reading is quite short and filled with part real stuff he did not understand (like whales, or snow, or why days last longer in the north in the summer) and part fiction (literally cave people that venerate fat women).Very amusing reading, and a somehow different view on vikings (most of what we know about them was written by church people after they sacked their churches).I guarantee you that you will not get bored.
>>531232701Phoenician ships were able to cross the ocean, it has been proven. It is very likely that some phoenician merchants under the Roman Empire ended up in America by accident, in fact it might have happened several times.
>>531237903they knew stories about hanno and atlantis
>>531229648But who says they couldn't take wing?
>>531243917Thanks man, just screenshotted your post. I greatly appreciate it
>>531229573>Latinos>Speak romance language>Throw roman salutes>Gladiator executions>Eagle standard of the legoins on flagAve Sheinbaum
>>531241700>JordanesTranslated this shit for Latin at Uni, gave me headache but was useful in the end. Never saw this mentioned in internet before now.Based bunda bro. Fermentation (together with farming and religion ) is considered one of the possible reason why humans stopped being nomadic. People underestimate the importance of beer in human history.
>>531242903the existence of Vinland and Greenland was not some big secret. they knew there was something to the west for centuries but there was no need to bother till Constantinople fell and trad was cut off with the east when the Ottomans took over and doubled the cost. I assume that the existence of the Americas was no different then the existence of the west indies in the minds of people at the time. there was just no need to bother going till after the 1450s look into the de Soto expedition I wish there was better info in English on Brazilian history
>>531244990>stopped being nomadicCant chase hunt herds and babysit foids simultaneously. Someone has to watch the hoe to make sure the kids yoursnon PC hypothesis are not published
>>531242903the existence of Vinland and Greenland was not some big secret. they knew there was something to the west for centuries but there was no need to bother till Constantinople fell and trad was cut off with the east when the Ottomans took over and doubled the cost. I assume that the existence of the Americas was no different then the existence of the west indies in the minds of people at the time. there was just no need to bother going till after the 1450s look into the de Soto expedition I wish there was better info in English on Brazilian history I never heard that anything transferred back to Europe
>>531245176There are plenty of theories. German historian Bachofen wrote about the matriarchy and polyandrous society before patriarchy and poligamy. I dont know but the beer hypothesis would make sense
All modern archaeology is fake psy op bullshit
>>531229314We were here first you fucking injins. Go back to China!
>>531229314>before columbusWhy does everyone just forget that Leif Ericson exists? Also surely at some points some Russians must have crossed into Alaska and Canada at some point, I mean they are so close.
>>531229314>mexicans can only grow what looks like dirt on their face as a form of "beard" or "mustache">NUUUUUUUUUUUUU GOY >NUUUUUUUUUUUU>just because it was PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE>GENITICALLY IMPOSSIBLE>for the nahuatl people of central mejico to grow anything more than a dirty mustache at best>DOESN'T>MEAN>ANYONE>CAME >FROM>the middle east!>with their BEARDS!>spreading ideas of "civilization">like>the building of stepped pyramids or>(((high places)))>upon which child sacrifices were performed>especially during "droughts">where the sacrifice of innocent people could supposedly 'provoke' the local storm god to produce rain>where the perpetrators consumed the flesh and drank the blood of the victims>that's not PROOF they're RELATED IN ANY WAY!!lol
>>531237698they've found tons of artifacts and structures not belonging to native americans you colossal dumb fuck, kill yourself
>>531245797>they've found tons of artifacts and structures not belonging to native americans
>>531241700>Not going to lie. It's hard to find time to read, but 10 to 20 pages before reading is better than doom scrolling.great advice here, brazilanon, even if the doomscrolling part does hit a little too close to home. thanks for the historical info about beer and other stuff
https://youtu.be/0vq3qZwaXrw?si=k8nThZmcYxQT_2Kz my people, i'm so in love of my people
https://youtu.be/r8qSBWTUEwE?si=SP02n-Ou2H-8-Ol-
https://youtu.be/QETF_mAmqfk?si=1GLxMUSf1eeORhy5
https://youtu.be/6W4L2O-JQ-w?si=Q4VY1ANqDHv4WRUc
>>531236437>denounces his eastern past and tradition (stepping over a sabre).Curved sword is yatagan , ottoman , Arabic , muslim sword.you dont know the meaning of that emblem.
https://youtu.be/QNDlwHW92OY?si=eOeFj5u81j65tZjM
https://youtu.be/98Akpf1ph2o?si=xst76uG5wtdv_cLd
and I fucking hate indigenous people, they are the scum of this country, it's their fault that my country is in ruins full of narcos and crime
>>531232701How would a roman ship not be able to cross the ocean when a viking rowboat was able to multiple times?
>>531243917Also which book? I looked it up and got a lot of results
>>531239446Hernan Cortez was a small time criminal who fled Cuba on a stolen ship with a handful of other criminals on tow, his army was 95% natives of tribes that were subjugated by the mexica, who he recruited primarily by using his native wife Malitzin as an interpreter to prey upon their disatisfaction with the current regime, upon his arrival at Tenochtitlan Cortez was initially treated kindly by the locals until he started acting like a dickhead and then he was succintly kicked the fuck out of the city and left to cry like a bitch under a tree for days, and the only rrason he could take the city days later was because his little visit had left the entire place riddled with smallpox and because his men cut off the water of the city, causing the illness to fester further, he then took the emperor, ill and almost dying, and tortured him for no reason.The whole thing was a retarded shitshow.
>>531230356Sneed's Feed & Seed (formerly Chuck's). Also, "Bart's Fart & Shart" doesn't make any sense because the store wasn't called "Feed & Sheed" under Sneed's ownership so stop posting it.
I'm white bros :)
>>531247174sory man, I was reading.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_FadlanAs far as I know, he only wrote this manuscript describing his travel, and every translator named the book whatever they vibe.going to bed. See you guys another time.If you have a problem, create a thread on /lit/, someone will surely help you. Just don't let them convince you to "start with the classics"; they are super boring.
>>531229314Its possible Spaniards had that with them when they came over and left it.
>>531248196Sauce? Any pics of her shit pipe?
>>531248241Goodnight bunda bro, thanks for everything
>>531229314You have some form of mental illness, you are out of your fucking mind.
>>531247259>to prey upon their disatisfaction with the current regimethe mexica lost to the tlaxcala. they did not lose to spain.
>>531229314lol, the earth is rome, native indios are martians/children of Heracles, while asians, especially those of the mainland, are venusians.the while Earth is where the Greek myths take place, America is Olympus, Mexico is the top of Mount olympus.we are the gods or children of gods, every happenings that happens is an attempt at making us forget that we are the gods.
>>531234868>They were never known for being shipbuilders.yes they were, sea merchant celtic tribes that fared the english channel and the north sea were already named in antiquity, like the armorican veneti, the morini or the menapii
>>531235648because that's antarctica, the whole world kneels to the gods in the ice citadel
Anything roman in the new world would have just been brought over as a relic or curiosity.
>>531229734The Garden of Eden was in Florida.
>>531237400>>531238344that's just handwaving
>>531239468the phoenicians went as far as gabon
>>531248815>>531249132people have been sailing for far longer than they say. people have also been coming to america for far longer than they say. if you advance either of these positions orthodox archaeologists will crucify you.
>>531238235besides a lateen sail on the mizzenmast i would never consider their ships "asian" or "arab"
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>>531234739lol
AYO JUAN!!!WE WUZ ROMANOS N SHIEEET!!!
>>531234119They absolutely did. The Romans learned seafaring quickly and early on in their history by reverse engineering and improving upon Carthaginian (Phoenician) designs
Roman historians speak of a “Third India” where 70 kings ruled. They sailed there once every three years for trade…
>>531229314>Conquistador of Italian descent brings family heirloom to New World for good luck>Loses it at some retarded barbarian tribe's stomping ground>Awww man that fucking sucks>500 or so years later>"Maaane we be like Romanz in shit holmes o algo"
>>531237309This is the most likely to me.
>>531231861They didn't had the technology, dumb migger
>>531249721It's actually much simplere than that, there is evidence all over the continent that amerindians were in contact with europeans since the time of the vikings, the end, when and how that carving got here is unimportant, we know that Columbus was not the first european to make it over here, that is an undisputed fact.Of course, that doesn't mean a large contingent of any amerindian population was related by blood to europeans save for the rare native woman who got fucked by a viking, so saying the mexica were actually romans is a colossal stretch, and most roman blood in modern Mexico clearly arrived with the conquest.
>>531229314>muh random rock that some spic carved last week is evidence that we wuz kangz holmes!!
>>531250746>Of course, that doesn't mean a large contingent of any amerindian population was related by blood to europeansLook at chromosomal haplogroup dispersals among North American native populations. About 60% have what can be classified as European chromosomal genetic R haplogroups. That's not even broaching mitochondrial haplogroups X, which is about 70% in native Ojibwe. The standard explanation is rape, but that's a lot of raping to do in a very short amount of time.
>>531230356>scotland and irelandConveniently forgets most redhaired region in world Udmurtia
>>531251526Could this not just lend credibility that humanity originated from Europe and not Africa and that African "humans" are some other kind of monkey entirely? The original people of Japan also looked very caucasoid, much more than mainland yayoi gooks.
>>531229314Eramos romanos n shiet
>>531229314WE WUZ NATIVES N SHIT
>>531229314somos romanos o algo asi saaaaaaar
>>531232988>Then the Spanish build, using the Roman ones as an example, to get "clean" water.So the Spanish decided to take a 900 year break from building aqueducts and then just decided to build an aqueduct once they came to the New World with a few thousand people most of which were soldiers and not engineers and then built an aqueduct that was similar to Roman aqueducts without the benefit of Roman concrete. Ok buddy. >This shit is well documented; there are records of how much this cost and how many people were involvedSauce?
>WE WUZ LATINS N SHIII-
Some schitzo was on here some few or so years ago saying the same type of crap. The Italian flag is eve the same as the Mexico flag just with an eagle on the cactus in the middle. Could be? Or maybe it was a colony that some of the Roman's escaped to at some point.
>>531229314When the conquistadors rolled up, they said, "this must have been built by Romans or Greeks"
>>531247259>his army was 95% natives of tribes that were subjugated by the mexicabrownoid struggling to understand leadership...
>>531229992>Montezuma was lighter skinned than the rest of the Aztecs. This is recorded in the Bernal Diaz book. This suggest that White people are the master race, no matter where they go.Reminder that the Guna, indigenous people of Colombia and Panama, have a swastika on their flag, they believe that albinos are a special divine race>Guna people have a high incidence rate of albinism,[13] which led to their nickname of "White Indians" in the early 1900s.[14][15] In Guna philosophy, the albinistic people (or "sipu") were given a special place and are considered a special race of people.[13] They have the specific duty of defending the moon against a dragon which tries to eat it on occasion during a lunar eclipse, and only they are allowed to go outside on the night of a lunar eclipse and to use specially made bows and arrows to shoot down the dragon.[16]
>>531247259>to prey upon their disatisfaction with the current regime,and it took a white man to tard wrangle them into action. No other brownoid could do it.
>>531229314Whut Quetzalcóatl was an uncanny lad, shit i knew the was some Ireland crazy genes inside me
>>531229992>>531252087https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Amazonian_Indians>The Spanish Dominican missionary Gaspar de Carvajal first claimed meeting a white tribe of Amazonians, he wrote in his Account of the Recent Discovery of the Famous Grand River (1542) of a tribe of Amazonian women who were "very white and tall" who had "long hair, braided and wound about their heads".[1] British Journalist Harold T. Wilkins in his Mysteries of Ancient South America (1945) compiled further accounts of similar sightings of "White Indians" in the Amazon Rainforest from the 16th to 19th century by explorers and Jesuits
>>531252064>>531252153Did I say otherwise? What exactly are you arguing against here? You are aware that modern Mexico is just as much native as spanish, right? You seem to think that pointing out how the whole thing went down and how stupid it was means I'm somehow arguing against half my heritage, guess what, I speak SPANISH, not nahuatl.
>>531238115I don't get it
>>531242336He is completely wrong
Nosotros civilizamos a roma o algo a la verga
>>531229314link you retarded gorilla fucking nigger
>>531239446>He conquered a fucking continent with, depending on how you count, 400-1200 menH literally had tens of thousands of natives on his side and many of the allies of the Mexica didn't want to get into it because they also hated them.>A continentMesoamerica isn't a continent, mutt
>>531229314nothing new under the sun. the ancient world was just as international as today.>b-but they didnt have the shipsthey had some way of doing it.
>>531231589psycho mantis?
Reminder that Quetzalcoatl was described as a white bearded man when in human form
>>531229314So the Mexicans had Vikings, Africans, Romans, and Aliens just chilling there? Who didn't they have there?
>>531229314No Roman ever mowed my lawn.
>>531229314So that is why they are called Latin Americans.
>>531232701Romans had some absolutely fuck huge ships that could cross any sea.
>>531239702This. He knew how to play alliances, divide and conquer. The British conquered India with a few thousand of men vs a hundred million in much the same way.
>>531234119https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis_(ship)That's stupid.
>>531229314>MEXICANSspics are all Spanish mongrels, in their current state they have bred out any Roman dna they may have once had from the ancient civilizations such as the Aztecs. Spain itself has more claim to Roman heritage than spics do and even that's tenuous at best.
>>531229648But (((Phoenicians))) had
>>531249132It's Occam's razor, and not jumping to the most fantastic (albeit cool) explanation, or whatever the opposite to Occam's razor is called. Could a quinquirrime carry three months supplies to make it across the Atlantic, bozo? Think they might have mentioned it somewhere once if they had done such a thing? What are you, an immigrant?
>>531254585>Romans had some absolutely fuck huge ships that could cross any sea.That's not necessarily true. They had some beasts of a ship, see Actium, yes, larger than quinquiremes, but those huge ancient ships with rather flat bottoms are particularly ill-suited to cross the Atlantic, it's very stormy. And the Greeks and Romans, probably even the Phoenicians, the entire Classical Antiquity Mediterranean sailing tradition was to hug the coast. They would sail within site of the coast unless they were hiding from some enemy, spend the night ashore, if possible, cook their meals ashore, and rarely be able to carry more than a few days' supplies.The medieval caravels, with its tall mast and deep waterline is much better suited for the task. Those thousand years of (granted very gradual), nautical innovation were not superfluous here.Where even, is a primarily sailing large Roman ship? Cuz otherwise how do you carry water for 170 rowers across the Atlantic? With 20 supply barges that are gonna get blown away first storm?
>>531256369>within sight*Dang it.
>>531249220One guy proved that it is possible to sail across the atlantic in phoenician shiphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_Ship_Expedition
>>531229314It would make sense that Mayans, with the help of Romans, were ahead of the curve when creating calendars, making temples and everything that requires a degree of knowledge and intelligence that should be quite difficult for them, without ayys, to acquire. Something is certain, the Roman guy(s) who came, if any, never returned.
>>531229573because some cartel nigger paid a group of "scientsts" in cocaine and hookers to go along with this fake study and make that "artifct"
>>531249405ya right like they caretheyre jus gettin ahead of the crowds learning that he is Italian because only Italians could own homes from there back then so theres no way he could have been arab
>>531229314it's news from 1933. they can repost it every year and it will be breaking news as usual.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecaxic-Calixtlahuaca_head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kFbA9DMbJ4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKshBhPfKzQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_X7eXo7GEs
>>531238235>Really not suitable for open sea trips.The North Sea is an especially rough sea. It's very shallow so the frequent storms build huge waves very easily and quickly.https://youtu.be/BRw5_UbFD14
>>531254659>This. He knew how to play alliances, divide and conquer. Seems really improbable. You are still talking minimum 2 million people conquered by 200. Even if they toppled the Aztecs with help, why wouldn't those Natives allied with Cortes just turn around and kill Cortes?>The British conquered India with a few thousand of menThis is India, anon. Indians are a different level. If you've ever worked with an Indian, you would know a few thousand are more than enough.
Feels good to be white.
>>531232701>sirs we invented gunpowder!So you could DRINK it you degenerate Chinese motherfuckers
>>531240882>Saltwater fish is salty as fuck.what the fuck are you talking about? It's just fish, you still need to salt/season it like any other fish. A no point did I ever think "oh, this is lake fish, I need to add more salt than those salty sea fishes". fucking moron.t. maritime faggot who eats fish from the sea regularly.
>>531229314>The burial itself was dated between 1476 and 1510 CE—just years before Hernán Cortés arrived in Mexico in 1519.oh so what you really mean is that your carbon dating thing is really imprecise and the burial happened 9+ years later than your carbon dating suggests
>>531251633Bro, New Spain sent missionaries to EVERY single remote indio village. You underestimate the human impulse to mate, even from a single, lonely, depressed missionaire that had a slip on his chastity vows. No rape involved.>Missionarie goes solo to civilize a remote village>Feels lonely for year>Qtie pie INDITA comes and helps him>Congrats, you know have a founder Population of Haplogroup R1b in a remote indito village.>Kid gets to be a Chad with hybrid vigour that screws all the inditas>GrandKids become darker but R1b marker remainsThere you have your explanationNot even the remotest indio towns were safe from mestizaje
>>531229314Lol spics being roman, more like ancient child molesters who raped their own family members as a tradition. You have zero heritage and nothing to be proud of. Just drugs, murder and rape, on the same level as other shit holes like India and bolivia
>>531232701>chinks and poos made good boats but never went anywhereLmao
