Iranian oil has been unsanctionedthey still control the Strait of HormuzIran has defeated the United States.
This has to be the most humiliating defeat in any war by a major power, even worse than the Ukraine war for Russia
>>531235243Ukraine war is one of the most succesful wars ever in history, Russia managed to drain NATO of all weaponry necessary for a big war by just sacrificing 400k churka peasants and Soviet gear in thousand cuts bloodletting, Ukraine war is literally what has allowed Iran to inflict this defeat on the US, remember, strategy is not a race, it's a marathonHistorians will talk about this boy, memba this
>>531235243>This has to be the most humiliating defeat in any war by a major power, even worse than the Ukraine war for RussiaEh if we pack up and go home and declare mission accomplished this should all be memory holed within 2 weeks. If we get those DOGE or Tariff checks then it's break even.
>>531235137This makes me think they're not actually planning a ground invasion, or even a serious enough bombing campaign to disable Iran properly. Why bother with these theatrics and half-measures if you know everything is about to actually blow up? Just to calm the markets for a few days or weeks? Yet we also just got reports of ground troops heading to the region. The fuck is going on?
>>531235137and at the same tome 5 000 US troops moving to Iran to be executed ... white men only (by Jewish request) Niggers would chimp out and sabotage boat In fear that they will be returned to Africa
>>531235137this probe that iranians could have hit f35 since the begingin, they just want to escalate to fuck israel and control the hormuz, usa is doomed, profesor yang vindicated once again, you will die for israel
>>531235137Nigger its because were about to start stealing it lol
>ifthe biggest if is if Iran feels like stopping, they have no reason to stop, they could conquer the entire Arabia and Iraq if they keep pushing with this momentum, they essentially have achieved the wet dream that Germans had with missiles in WW2 lmao
>>531235587Iran does not want to stop the war. They'll keep attacking Israel even if Americans chickened away. Plus, closing US bases in the region would be a defeat of astronomical proportions and basically ends the US empire since it the monopoly on oil (petrodollar) would be over, US dollar would crash since it's artificially propped up by this institution. Case in point, the US cannot leave, it's stuck in this war and will have to deploy ground forces eventually
>>531235587But if gulf oil dedollariises under threat of Iran then it's bye bye American empire If I was ab Arab gulf state iiid rather trade in yuan and keep my oil facilities than trade in dollars and have them blown up
>>531235482It's not about material and personnel losses. It simply has taken way too long and the Russians are advancing at a snail's pace. Ukrainians are learning how to counter drones and gaining battle experience by the day
>>531235625They 100% will be invading with ground troops, they have no other choice.See >>531235843
>>531235137Best solution for Iran:Destroy all oil refineries and reserves ... so will be pointless for jew USA troops to fight ... for what? Fuck the word enslaved by jew rats... Purge the jews or die ... it is literally jews vs humanity
>>531235137One of the things Iran asked was compensation. Do you think this could be related to that? As in trump making a peace agreement behind the scenes, but part of the deal is Iran can't let anybody know they're doing it.
>>531236039Then what's the point of this nonsense with the oil sanctions? They think the markets are going to fucntion during an all out existential invasion of Iran?
>>531235137>if... if i set my own win conditions... i can ake it seem like Iran is winning despite it having no conventional armed forces left!kys shitskin.
>>531235860The moment US closes their bases in the Gulf, they gonna switch to Yuan or other currencies.They're forced trading in USD under the threat of military force. Basically "you'll get the saddam treatment the moment you stop the petrodollar arrangement"
>>531235137Use this chaos to hunt down all Jews!Total jew rat purge! https://youtu.be/LgLVXO27WZ4George Lincoln Rockwell - Interview https://x.com/dappjaklabs/status/2027464472529395828FlushIsrael
>>531235860Trump got tricked by the Jews into a war we cant win and we end up losing our control over the whole region and the petrol dollar.
>>531236155>No armed forces>Taking out oil refineries and gas fields across the region freelyDon't mix up the copium with your joojoo cum next time migger
>>531235981Russia acquired it's territorial goals in the first days of the war (LPR, DPR and landbridge with Crimea) Ukraine is simply on NATO life support and doesn't surrender, why hurry when you can take it easy and have disposable peasants you can dump with AKs to solve your "hostile military alliance at your doorstep" problem??Hegseth said with his own words that the US basically dumped almost all of it's weapons on Ukraine, such a dense concentration of armaments cannot be overcome in a short amount of time unless it is by surrender of one of the parts of the war.Also Russian high command nor Putin established any timetable for the end of the war, unlike the commander in chief of the US that ordered his special operation in Iran to be finished in 4 days lolTLDR: it don't matter fast or slow, clearly plan B (slow) is working
>>531236748I think you are right. Hohols will surrender soon. Europoors don't have any money to dump if the US pulls out
>>531235243>defeat>>531235625>not actually planningmy news sources are saying POTUS invoked wartime state of emergency laws on Friday
>>531237130>POTUS invoked wartime state of emergency laws on Friday?
>>531237633English in next message.. original Finnish news release:Presidentti Donald Trumpin hallinto julisti perjantaina sota-ajan hätätilan, jotta se voisi myydä aseita Lähi-idän liittolaisille ilman kongressin käsittelyä.Se haluaa myydä 23 miljardilla dollarilla eli noin 20 miljardilla eurolla aseita Arabiemiraateille, Jordanialle ja Kuwaitille, kertoo The New York Times.Tämä on toinen kerta Iranin sodan alun jälkeen, kun Valkoinen talo on kiertänyt normaalin kongressin hyväksymisprosessin. Ensimmäisen kerran Trumpin hallinto kiersi kongressin heti Yhdysvaltojen ja Israelin hyökättyä Iraniin. Silloin se myi 20 000 pommia Israelille. Myös edellisen demokraattipresidentin Joe Bidenin hallinto käytti hätätilajulistusta myydäkseen aseita Israelille Gazan sodan aikana.Kuitenkin Valkoinen talo ja ulkoministeriö käyttävät hätätilajulistusta vain harvoin, koska vakiintuneen käytännön mukaan edustajainhuoneen ja senaatin valiokunnat tarkastavat ja hyväksyvät asekaupat. Epävirallinen tarkastusprosessi asekaupoissa on kongressin pääasiallisen valvontakeino Yhdysvaltojen asetoimituksissa.The New York Timesille nimettömänä puhunut virkamies kertoi, ettei Trumpin hallinto ollut lähettänyt kongressille edes alustavaa ilmoitusta suurimmasta osasta torstaina ilmoitetuista asesiirroista.Kyseessä on nyt Yhdysvaltojen ulkoministeriön mukaan 11 asetilausta.
>>531237892Google translated English:>President Donald Trump's administration declared a wartime emergency on Friday to allow it to sell weapons to its Middle Eastern allies without congressional approval.>It wants to sell $23 billion worth of weapons to the United Arab Emirates, Jordan and Kuwait, The New York Times reported.>This is the second time since the Iran war that the White House has bypassed the normal congressional approval process. The first time was after the Trump administration bypassed Congress immediately after the United States and Israel attacked Iran. That time, it sold 20,000 bombs to Israel. The administration of former Democratic President Joe Biden also used the emergency declaration to sell weapons to Israel during the Gaza war.>However, the White House and State Department rarely use the emergency declaration because, according to established practice, arms sales are reviewed and approved by committees in the House and Senate. The informal review process for arms sales is Congress's main means of oversight over US arms sales.>An official speaking to The New York Times on condition of anonymity said the Trump administration had not even sent Congress a preliminary notification for most of the arms transfers announced Thursday.>The U.S. State Department said there are now 11 arms orders.
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>>531235137"IRAN WON", cried the increasingly nervous goatfucker for the 26th time today, not realizing that the US will stay there until we get the entire country and everyone in it that is not yet ash.We can stay in Iran for 20 years and make their life a living hell, as we are doing right now. You've killed around 12 servicemen or so, if I'm not mistaken. Gotta do another 70k before we even consider stop bombing you.Meanwhile you lose around 10k people every single day. All wars are wars of "political will" attrition. Since the time one cave leader challenged another one. I say we do this for 20 or even 30 more years and then see if some durka durka still wants to get uppity.
>>531235243this is on par with russia losing the russo-japanese warreminder that ~10 years after that loss the russian monarchy was overthrown in a liberal revolution
>>531237925It appears to be limited to a specific sale of weapons though. Not some kind of generally state of emergency powers
>>53123558750 iq amerimutts forgetting that they got buttfucked is irrelevant. the rest of the world clearly sees the us has no teeth and can't do shit. all you have to do is build a gorillion $3k flying lawnmowers and the unstoppable invincible us navy will hide 3000km from your shores while the pedo in chief impotently Truths that he's conquering youunironically trump has killed the american empire
>>531238057typical finnish news, the finnish version is literally saying wartime state of emergency
>>531237939Are you going to enlist?
>>531235198ASSHOLESWHY CLOSE IT WHEN THEY LOSTTHEY NEED TO ADMIT DEFEAT AND OPEN IT UPFUCK THEM
>>531235137What happens if the iranians decide to not sell it?
>>531236039how are they doing to land lol. the navy is hiding in the middle of the indian ocean, and now iran is bombing diego garcia, the base that acted as the staging ground for every single ME forever warthey can't even get tankers through hormussy, how the fuck are they gonna get troop transports through? or do they think they're gonna air drop em all? or march through iraq, which is crawling with iranian aligned militias that have been shooting down american planes for a week now?they can want to invade all they want, reality has other plans
>>531238268The fact that Iran is perpetually bombing Israel may change the calculus of which sorts of weapons are allowed to be used
How about 2 million dead American troops for starters of the decide to land invade? It would be kino.
>>531238417are you drunk, those are Russian casualty numbers
>>531238352you're right but the us would immediately be cut off from any international interaction if trump is dumb enough to do thatno business, no imports, nobody buying anything made by the us. every single nuclear power would intervene to try and restore the nuclear tabooalso iran would just blow up the entire middle east, like literally everything. full scorched earth on every single oil well and refinery, completely flatten israel. they've been very clear they will retaliate in kind and severity to any attacks made on them
I can't wait for this war to end so I can stop reading brown cope but that oil isn't being produced by Iran you retards, other countries have it stored. We also froze their bank accounts, god you're all so fucking stupid no wonder the jews call you cattle.
>>531237939Iran will still be here in 30 years and won't stop till they are all dead, even then you will only inspire more sand coons to martyrdom. You amerimutt will be used and replaced like a good little golem by next year.
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>>531238618Shut up dumbass
>>531235137This only releases the oil in tankers at sea. 140 billion barrels worth. >Bessent described it as a "narrowly tailored, short-term authorization" to boost global supply (~10–14 days' worth), prevent China from getting it cheaply, and use "Iranian barrels against Tehran" without benefiting Iran much (e.g., limited revenue access).
>>531238566What is the alternative though? It appears to be "US completely retreats from middle east, Israel left basically at Iran's mercy for foreseeable future"
>>531239028hopefully the alternative is someone just forms a praetorian guard in the white house and replaces trump if he even hints he's gonna use a nuke, and that the zogbots in charge of the silos and subs simply refuse to obey an order to launch onebut like I said, you're probably right. this government is so fucking stupid and useless that won't happen
>>531235137>Iran actually managed to defeat the USAWe're living in surreal times
It's a concession forced on the US unwillingly due to Iranian military action. Hard to spin that.
>>531239028Reparations and a solution to the Palestinian question. There is no law of nature that says Iran and Israel or the US have to be eternal enemies. But you would have to start treating both Iran and Israel as normal countries, i.e. stop vilifying the former and stop allowing the latter to wantonly pillage their neighbours.
>>531235137They're lifting the sanctions only on oil that's already in the sea aka tankers, the US is about to seize Iranian oil tankers at sea and sell the oil to Europe and Asia
>>531239395>There is no law of nature that says Iran and Israel or the US have to be eternal enemies."adversus omnes alios hostile odium"...but maybe they could make some sort of truce. Israel seems pretty intent on invading Lebanon right now though, not to mention they're the ones who really set all this into motion, and you have to figure they knew it would play out this way, or at least that it could.
