Everyone put the memes aside for a second. Is Trump unironically retarded and/or blackmailed enough to invade Iran?
Yes both. I hate that I actually supported him in 2016. Feels embarrassing
>>531259313yes and you are heading towards being another soviet union
>>531259313It’s just another conflict to fuck up the energy prices. Another way to chip away at you.
>>531259313Oh gee Idunno. Absolutely no one could have saw this cominghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_8VAN8-dlU
>>531259313yes and it's been obvious since forever
>>531259313You lost, tranny. Panicans were never true MAGALeftist shills aren't even trying anymore...
>>531259313Trump is a Messianic Jewish Christian; he is working with Messianic Jews to bring Jesus Christ back with this war in Iran. He doesn't care about Jewish people who reject Christ. It's called 8D chess. Some Jews are Messianic and believe Jesus is the Messiah, like Peter and Paul. Some are Gentiles, like Luke. Others, who are the modern day Pharisees , do not . There is heavy infighting at the top echelons of society, and many elites are intentionally and actively fulfilling scripture. Some believe in Jesus; others don't.
>>531259313I don't want to discuss trump's strategy here because it could help the iranians.
If Israel tells him to invade, he invades.He didn't get blackmailed for nothing.
I always knew he was retarded. He was retarded for the birther lies, he was especially retarded during the primaries, I always knew and now I feel vindicated. Lmao
>>531259313One of your presidents bombed a country to distract your nation from a blowjob he got from a mossad agent
>>531259313they bought all those warehouses to "build" detention centers, why they really bought them are for data centers they wanted to police everyone with, now they're begging for more shekels because they can't afford the computers they thought they were going to pay for by stealing iran's oil
give us 200 billion shekels goy, it's roughly the amount we though we were getting from iran to pay for data centers to enslave you all with... please goyim?
>>531259313Both, however this current shit will go nowhere. The point is to just distract people from the files since what little has been shown has screwed over the kikes and definitively exposed both the uniparty and their supremacists bullshit.
>>531259600People still thinking he's "blackmailed" or "on the list". No... he wasn't blackmailed by them. He IS them. He's part of them. He wasn't "manipulated and tricked" by Epstein, he worked with him. His family has been on the same team as them for decades. His family is married into them. He didn't get compromised, he is part of the compromisers.
ZOGThat is the answer
>>531259313>Is Trump unironically retarded and/or blackmailed enough to invade Iran?Absolutely. It'll take a while to work their way up to it - they'll start with Kharg island - but eventually they'll get there. First it'll be the island, then a small coastal foothold, then the draft and an actual push into the mountains followed by a LOT of FPV footage of Americans dying.
>>531259864I would like you to explain the infighting between Clintons and Trump, specially when they pinned Trump as a russian asset
>>531259313the 82nd airborn is activated, they're moving 2 MEU's into the area (2nd one arriving in ~10 days) that's roughly 15k us troops, it's enough for them to try taking the coastal areas in the strait and maybe kharg island or qeshem island.I think they're going to do it.will probably go like this:jask port -> set up FOB -> secure south eastern coastline -> move north along coastline -> airborne assault on qeshem island and maybe ground assault and air assault from jask port into bandar abbas -> then take kharg islandThen they move another 10-20k troops in for long term occupation, no invasion into middle of iran, just the coastline.Cuts off iran's control of the strait, and denies them income from their oil via kharg island, basically knocks them out, then it's just holding the territory which is easy because now you've got iran's mountains helping you, not hindering.Only thing iran can do at that stage is try to bleed the US forces out with drone attacks, missiles, etc. All future combat operations past the occupation stage are just targeted ones to destroy/disrupt iran's ability to make rockets, drones, etc. in the interiorthey won't bring any big ships close enough to actually get hit, the whole operation is going to be conducted at arms length by airborne forces (which luckily, is the main focus of the MEU's they're sending) they will completely avoid anti ship missiles, submarines, mines, etc. Losses for us forces would predominantly be relatively small, like chinooks and ospreys getting shot down rather than an entire warship blowing up. likely to be hundreds of casualties in the first week but the US has enough air assets and manpower they can pretty much keep the offensive going indefinitely so long as the carriers and the big not-carrier amphibious meu ships dont get killedIt's not as suicidal as people think it is. Everyone's got the wrong idea of fighting 90 million people in the interior with 5k marines.
>>531259313irk but he fucked up now, ytmnd
>>531260247It does none of those things and that is nothing like enough troops.
>>531260247Now explain how 10k marines will survive against hundreds of thousands of IRGC with drones. Likely they get russian military advisors too that train them in the best drone tactics and give them all kinds of intel. Helicopters are vulnerable to FPV drones. Iranians will hide in mountaneous terrain near the landing areas and constantly attack, armored vehicles wont help the marines. Sounds like pure suicide. You would need a massive land army to quickly sweep into Iran and finish off the capital, constant movement and quick victory.
>>531260247>they won't bring any big ships close enough to actually get hitHoly retard. How will you supply 10k to 25k soldiers a day camping on the coastline. That's literally a ton of MRE's for one day not even considering the ammo and weapons they need.
>>531259313Yes but he doesn't have the forces assembled to do that, any attack on Iranian territory would trigger an insane response from Iran, they would start blowing the fuck out of everything including the invaders. When you start seeing entire armored divisions being readied, including British and French forces it will be time to go innawoods.
>>531259313Yes.
>>531259313Yes he is unironically going to invade Iran in less than two weeks. It is going to be ugly.At this point any president would have to. That toothpaste is not going back in the tube.
>>531260247What happens if the Iranians mine the coastline (which I assume they will do as they are not retarded)
>>531261909nothing, the US isn't bringing its ships in, this is all going to be airborne assaultsafter the initial areas are taken and the strait is safeish they'll move littoral mineclearing ships in to start clearing the passage for ships to transit and then begin escorting ships with gulf coast and nato fleets assisting - the coastline and islands would be occupied and controlled at that point so there's really not much threat from anti ship missiles or subs. Iran would have to use mostly long range drones
>>531261251Like the inverse of western military armchair theorists, you assume the EN is going to (100%) and the west will (0%). God it must be tricky to go through life so stupid.>>531261298Have you ever met US logistics? They could do that shit with their eyes closed t. milfag
>>531259313Power isnt free, you have to trade something for it
>American>Over 70>Lead poisoning>RepublicanAll signs point to retardation
>>531259313His favorite person in the world is his daughter Ivanka. Ivanka is the property of Kushner, Kushner is the property of the world jewry cult. There doesn't need to be some Epstein child sex blackmail for them to own Trump, they already own the most valuable things in his world.
>>531262147it will be a suicide mission that we can all witness in two weeks. the troops will mass surrender or they will starve there. this operation will be on par with hitler sending soldiers into Russia without winter equipment.
>>531259404The land of the free took in all the leftist that fled when righties took over and forced them out. Boomers think the lefties that came here are good, while the countries they fled are still what media told them they were
>>531262424I know you don't know shit about how the military works, but what makes you think it will be a suicide mission? What percentage of attrition is required for it to be a suicide mission? 10%? 20%? More? The Marine Corp would sooner starve than die, and sooner feed on their enemies bodies than admit defeat. Even if operational/strategic goals are not met, tactical victory is GUARANTEED when you put something like the Marines against the IRGC.
>>531262885> hurr durr marines are STRONG and TOUGHyou are an absolute golem. All those strong and tought VDV units got rekt in ukraine by simple drones and artillery. You are still stuck in 2003. It will be pure attrition and Iran has more bodies to throw at the problem
>>531259313yes
>>531259313Your boogeyman is getting killed so you don't have anything to whine about. It's already been decided.
>>531259313You have to understand, he always believes the last person he spoke to. Netanyahu calls him every day.Also he's surrounded by people like Jared Kushner and a bunch of spineless Yes-men propped up by the Heritage FoundationI don't think he'd be that heckled by any blackmail, he's the most embarrassing person out there, what's he got to be ashamed of or used against him
>>531259529Why do we have psychotic idiots like this in positions of power?Retard Hegseth and his people were conducting briefings saying insane shit like this. Why? Right before a WW3 type scenario why do you feel the need to tell everyone that you are actually a retarded lunatic that actually believes you are blowing up kids to resurrect Stick Kike? I bet this makes everyone around you feel very confident when you tell them you are engaged in a biblical war of armageddon
>>531263531>what's he got to be ashamed of or used against himThe dicksucking tapes and the child molestation tapes. That comes out and his legacy is over. This is how they control every celebrity from Michael Jackson on down. He's just another one they have under their thumb. The dicksucking tape alone is enough to completely destroy him look at Destiny. The child molestation tape is the nail in the coffin he would blow his own head off.
>>531262885>we are the cannibals hu hathis is nothing to boast about and the meth that they give these Marines on deployment day will wear off pretty fast
>>531263331Whether or not Marines are "strong and tough" has nothing to do with it you fucking civilian. Yes, artillery and other arms are force multipliers - luckily the marine corps is also one of the largest airforces, and only deploys in joint battle groups alongside naval assets. Cool artillery/drones you're using to assault the designated SPOD - be a shame if the most* technologically advanced military in the world had counter battery capabilities and weapons overmatch. Again, your comparisons illustrate your complete lack of knowledge on the subject you fucking g*erm retard, why don't you go lose another war you won't even fight in you spastic.>>531263995stfu mohammed, go rape a pig you towel headed cross eyed shitskin cunt. your entire post is WRONG
>>531259313>Is Trump unironically retarded and/or blackmailed enough to invade Iran?He pretends to be retarded so people are unable to gauge how dumb / smart he really his.Imo he has a good sense of how to create a cult of personality but not necessarily smart enough on how to grow itAlso he just lets Israel council his next geopolitical moves because he think it will benefit him overall
>>531264482yes we saw how good these supercool NAFO tactics work in Ukraine. LMAO will enjoy getting watching you shitheads get absolutely wrecked as you are forced to adapt to the new realities of war
>>531259313He just works for Jews. Everything makes sense once you accept this. No retardation, blackmail, overly complex conspiracy theories, etc are needed to explain anything. Perhaps he didn't in 2016 (he did avoid the Syrian war the Jews and their agent Hillary were drumming for at the time) but he got coopted by the end of his first term.
>>531264482stay mad dumb shit
>>531259313he droned an iranian general in his first term, how can be shocked or surprised by this war as if it wasn't blazing clear since the very beginning. like holy shit his intentions were obviosuly clear from the start you tard
>>531259313He's only half retarded, below midwit yet perceptive enough to flex his strengths in a moderately successful manner. Of course, he wasn't elected but chosen by (((the choosers))) who runt he very same blackmail scheme you've picked up on. wait til you find out who owns the central banks...
>>531259313If Iran has enough hidden drones and mines to block the strait for say half a year or more and no level of assasinations can break their morale, Trump has no choice. Just like Putin after his 3 day roadside picnic on the way to Kiev, he's pot committed.Most likely satellite data, bombings, assasinations and escorts with CIWS can open the strait ... but it's getting to the wire.
>>531259375AgreedBut he lied and fed nigger Arab billionaire lobbyst fags will ALWAYS lie so there’s really nothing Americans can do until the lobby system bribes end They have definitely lost their country to these Arab cult niggers and feminists retards that refuse to educate themselves Unironically women and fags could stop this if they figured out they wanted less crime but they won’t because they’re both mostly stupid asses…. straight men and white men clearly have no voice in this country since jfk
would kamala start this war?
>>531263580>Why do we have psychotic idiots like this in positions of power?Positions of power are held by psychotic satanists Anon, they are put there by design, not voted in. Chabad/Freemasons/Rothschild control it all pretty much, Iran doesn't have a Rothschild bank. >Double line spacing is attention seeking.
>>531264843Look, let me explain this to you as simply as I can. Modern tactics are not modern, they are combined arms doctrine formed from Nazi doctrine of WW2, generally being focussing of firepower at a single point at a designated time in order to achieve a breakthrough (example artillery softening a target with pre H fires, before conducting creeping barrage ahead of mounted infantry who then conduct a drop on an objective to carry out a dismounted clearance). Works great with A. defined objectives, B. defined battlespace, C. defined forces. Ergo, not effective in the contemporary battlespace, which focusses on controlling tempo and initiative, mainly through decentralizing command&control and enabling small teams to exploit opportunities which can enable the concentration of larger elements to achieve operational objectives. The european militaries are NOT the US military. Euros are more hierarchical, more 'traditional' due to longer martial histories, more centralized command, lower ranks are given ZERO responsibility. As an example, a British LTCOL was floored that an Australian CPL was able to organize and conduct large coalition combat patrols, let alone given the opportunity at all. The British military could never. The US Marines are more warriors than soldiers, discipline is group led, not command led, plans much more flexible, as they generally don't know what the plan was anyway. 'NAFO' tactics in Ukraine came from Europe, as you g*erms found out with the Leopards you handed over.
>>531260121Feuding between different flavours of AIPAC approved candidates."Russia" was a MSM distraction in one sense, but technically Jared Kushner's Chabad does have influence with Putin. Also, the Clintons have been in the pocket of the Rothschilds as shown by the Wikileaks stuff.
>>531265651> 'NAFO' tactics in Ukraine came from Europe, as you g*erms found out with the Leopards you handed over.Cope. The US planned the 2023 ukrainian counterqueef that brutally failed. NATO has mostly standardized training and tactics, and those got btfo in excersises against ukrainans with a handful of drones.
>>531259313Yes and yes.Literally nuked his whole platform over Jews. Should have just took the Epstein shit on the chin.
>>531260247So there's gonna be tens of thousands of us soldiers hanging around at the coast getting intermittently pelted by rockets and drones with no further objective or end of mission in mind? Lol
>>531262885>The Marine Corp would sooner starve than die, and sooner feed on their enemies bodies than admit defeat. Even if operational/strategic goals are not met, tactical victory is GUARANTEED when you put something like the Marines against the IRGC.It's funny that U.S. propaganda just sounds like unhinged boomer garbage while trying to be badass. I wonder what they train these bots on to make them this cringe.
>>531260247This analysis is completely delusional. If Trump is being advised by people like this anon, he is fucked.Sending troops to sit on a island full of fuel or to the coast to sit while they look at a wall of mountains, all while being harassed by artillery/missiles/drones day and night, is not an option.
>>531266004And what was the inspiration for modern NATO doctrine (combined arms)? The Nazis. Where were they again? Europe. The US may have helped plan the counterattack, but their contribution was limited to munitions/intelligence/planning etc, only personnel for logistics&planning as A. They're the best at it, and B. for maintenance/contractors for US assets being used in theatre since the Ukies can't be trusted. Again, FYSA, combined arms was proven in Blitzkrieg, but wasn't formally adopted by the US until late into the cold war, some fucking 40 years after WW2. The US has known about this since the Millenium challenge, and most notably a recentish exercise where g*erms beat the US navy on exercise by neutralizing command and control capabilities (signals), rendering ships unable/unwilling to manoeuvre without direct command and enabling them to be destroyed one by one. This doesn't disprove my point RE modern vs contemporary doctrine. Militaries, like all large organizations, move slowly, and change is hard to enact. Luckily, the Marine Corps isn't affected by that. They don't know what they're doing anyway so doctrine doesn't really matter. The Marine Corps is a great example of a self selecting group in a given population, and a classic example of how militaries/police are not, and can never be, representative of a population. If you join the Corps, you are by definition the sort of person that would join the Corps, and being IN the organization only compounds that. The Marine Corps is the ONLY western equivalent of a suicide bomber battalion. You want to trap 30k Marines on a beach? Good luck, cause the rest of the Corps is coming. And even if they don't make it, you gotta kill every single one of em. And even then, the Corps IS STILL COMING cause they WILL DIE FOR DEAD BODIES. Not great strategically speaking, but as I said, operational and strategic objectives may not be met, but tactical objective are guaranteed to succeed.
>>531266304US propaganda is not that the Corps has a massive internal issue with rape, violent crimes and war crimes. It's that "new tech is better" "we fight for what is right" etc (my favourite "a soldier fights because he loves what's behind him, not because he hates what's in front of him"). I agree, that shit is fucking cope. Marine Corps advertising has, afaik, always been "come be a badass and kill cunts". So that's who joins. I'm not saying they are militarily superior, I am saying they have a culture of warriorhood, of no surrender, of Marine supremacy. And operational and strategic goals are not set on the ground, they are set in Washington/Bagram/Baghdad etc, and sure as shit not by coalface marines. Most famous examples of that sort are Mad Dog Mattis and Chesty Puller, and in reality, they had very little impact on WHAT their marines were pointed at, only HOW they could do their job. Mattis didn't last in Washington for a reason.
>>531259472I love how Trump is fucking America, using the presidency for his own gains. Total collapse! That’s what I voted for.
