Ukrainian instructors visiting the Middle East were shocked by allies inefficiency and stupidity: using expensive Patriot missiles to counter cheap Shahed drones, a glaring cost/resource asymmetry. The waste stunned them most. Allies fire up to 8 Patriot missiles at a single target which absurd for Ukrainians who ration every round. https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/us-welcome-ukraine-help-air-defence-lkdr7d6j6Ukrainians prove the same can be achieved with machine guns on pickups or inexpensive interceptor drones.They were also horrified by poor "radar hygiene". US and allied radars operate statically: systems run almost non-stop from fixed bases, which makes them easy sitting ducks for Iran. Ukrainian air defense endures thanks to mobility, radars turn on very briefly, then quickly relocate. Gigantic, billion-dollar early-warning radars stand motionless, relying on perceived invulnerability. Yet three cheap Shaheds recently destroyed a $1 billion radar, a modern "battleship moment": low-cost drones now render ultra-expensive systems helpless without mobility and short-range protection.NATO systems were designed for classic threats, not swarms of plastic drones. The West enjoyed decades of air dominance that is just ending. Ukraine is the first since WWII to fight where the enemy paralyses the skies with cheap mass production.Ukrainian instructors urge NATO to unlearn "luxury warfare," invest in affordable kinetic solutions (anti-aircraft guns, interceptor drones) and mobility or risk being financially/industrially/militarily destroyed. xD
I agree with Ukrainians in 100% but all these described shortages are truly a tip of the iceberg. The so called West/NATO/whatever is finished for much more critical and far more numerous reasons xD
>>531266218>>531267064slavniggers again are too stupid to see the bigger picture, which is milking the american taxpayer and everyone else by using very expensive useless toysI hate slavshits, you think youre smart but really youre stupid naive children with a huge personality problem
>>531266218>Effective, affordable solutionsAmericans have privatized MIC with strong lobby. Not happening.
>>531266218Ukraine will teach NATO how to lie and make up interception rates.
>>531267155>>531267254Hows your Elbit factory doing? Art 4, or Art 5 already initiated? Or just accepting the very obvious Russian intel revenge after Israeli strike in direction of the RT reporter? xD
>2005>4chan culture>emojis are for children>nobody uses emojis>slavnigger polack discovers 4chan in 2022>xD xD xDjust subhuman things
>>531267155Good job retard you pointed out the one thing everyone knows about the US MICThe problem comes when the US MIC is incapable of pivoting to an actual production model because we no longer have the critical resources required.Also at the end of the day nobody but the most retarded are willing to cross the ocean and die for Israel
>>531267406slava ukraine mutt
>>531267453I don't speak shitholer
>>531266218Yet again the generals prepared to fight their last war.
>>531266218>>531267064NATO already approached the Ukranians last year for intelligence and counseling. It was clear that the way the Russia/Ukraine war is being fought is different from WWII.The real question is why the US military didn't learn anything from that war. Is it hubris? They did the same with cars, planes, steel production, etc. They merely assumed that they were the best and would always be the best and didn't even bother to compete with others until they suddenly overtake them.
>>531267538Slava Ukraine bitch. Watch Russia lose!
>muh kenetic
>>531267814>The real question is why the US military didn't learn anything from that war. Is it hubris? They did the same with cars, planes, steel production, etc. They merely assumed that they were the best and would always be the best and didn't even bother to compete with others until they suddenly overtake them.They would if they could
>>531268260Biowarfare based on genetic tech is the future indeed. The US of A already used smth with bigger destruction capacity than all its nukes. Mostly against itself and its so called "allies". xD
>>531268080>2 more weeks
>>531266218>just say you shoot 150% missiles and drones down and you can save billions to steal for yourself!Tully Ukrainian art of war.
>>531267155>>531267254MIC posting is low IQ because when you're actually losing a war to a near peer instead of nuking goat fuckers from orbit then no one will give a fuck what the MIC wants, especially if the straits remaining closed harms all other capital interests.
>>531269399>instead of nuking goat fuckersThey would if they could
Iran probably has 1 million hilux technicals they can load 20 or thirty durkas into vs the virgin 4 man marine infantry squad. USA makes them walk everywhere carrying heavy equipment that does nothing in a firefight, vs the Iranians who can drive up to their position from a mile away, hit them and be gone in less than 2 minutes.
>>531266218They can teach americans how to make presentations with 100% intereception rate and steal 100% of moneyUSA corruption cut is still around 10-30%
Usa thinks it's ground game is superior to this.
>>531266218US has already deployed their LUCAS drones this year, they are definitely adapting to modern conflicts, but it shows that Iran was a snap decision or else they would already have worked out a deal to manufacture and deploy those cheap Octopus drones before going to war with Iran.
>>531266218Right on! Ukraine routinely shoots down 200 drones from Russian attacks of up to 100 and even 150 drones. Learn from the best I say!
>>531267375>take Ukrainian interceptor drone>scale it up to the size of a shahed>replace explosive charge with a machine gun>shoot down the shaheds instead of suiciding with themThus the cost per flight drops to just fuel and bullets. That's how you flip the "glaring cost/resource asymmetry" script. Easy to recruit for human capital too: just visit every college with an aerospace engineering program and find the students who build rc aircraft and play flight simulators. Boom, you've already got 10,000 enthusiastic recruits scientists technicians workers and engineers right there for free
