Since the F 35 was shot down and the US was completely humiliated why isnt China selling the J-20 which is also a 5th generation fighter. Its clear now that Russias Su-57 is just a meme with fake specs so if China puts the J 20 on the market right now anti US and Middle Eastern countries would be desperate to buy it. China already has over one hundred forty of them in their inventory which is more than enough for their own defense
>>531274664>Russias Su-57 is just a meme with fake specsstay coping nigger, the first exports have been made.
>>531274664>“The aircraft landed safely, and the pilot is in stable condition,” Captain Tim Hawkins, spokesman for US Central Command, said in a statement, without confirming the reports from outlets including ABC and CNN.Wasnt shot down. Why would China sell their shit to gulf states to send tech to US?
>>531274664because China still hasn't solved the engine issue for J-20>but muh WS-15 enginethey are STILL using old engines
>>531274777Yeah, to fucking Algeria lmfao
>>531274796You are coping if you think a plane that cant fly anymore is still a win just because it didnt explode in mid airIf the airframe is damaged enough to be permanently grounded or requires a total rebuild then it is a mission kill which is functionally the same as being shot down
>>531274934Man my country literally JUST bought these planes
nah americans are just overrated pilotsgreek farmers can unironically fly circles around them in war sim
Drones are the future, I have no idea why everyone is still building manned planes.
>>531275133>future war is just drones being flown into ships and structureshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdNUPIRrvj0Welcome back.
>>531274664China has 400+ J-20s, J-20As, and J-20Ss in service, anon. Also, the RCS value is off, it's not as bad as in the infographic, even if this makes certain people seethe.There is a J-20 derivative that has an F designation (Chinese planes meant for export get that), but it's unclear whom will be the buyers. >t. Professional military aviation and jet fag
>>531274841No they aren't, you have no idea what you're talking about
>>531274841Go back to /k/ or whatever the NAFO subreddit is, desu.
>>531275335>warthunder turdie chimes inThanks for the affiliate link!
>>531274934>it's the same as being shot downhahahahahaha. No the whole point of shooting down a plane is that the pilot is ether killed or captured as it was flying over hostile land. It literally flew all the way back to a US base. One thing the US does not have a shortage of are F35's
>>531275411I actually haven't played any of those games. I did try the KA-50 DCS game for a bit.
>>531274934Sweetie, the pilot is the target. The pilot is alive and well, still not a kill.
>>531275479But it's a bit too much, no wonder the KA-52 was designed as a twin seater instead.
>>531274664The J-20 is an inflatable balloon parked on runways designed to fool Western observers.
>>531275031First, I'm no expert but no aircraft in this modern age is completely invisible or untouchable. Even the F35 or F22 can lose their stealth advantage if they are flying low and get too close to the enemyAt that point, they are just as vulnerable as anything else. I bet this F35 case was the same. It probably just got caught by a heat seeking weapon in a bad spot. Don't sweat it too much
>>531274934>it counts as shot down even if the plane made it safely back!It's not Chinsect glownigger, you ESL's are terrible at using our language.
>>531274664What a fuckin boatBoth of them
>>531274934>Functionally the same as being shot downNot to the fucking pilot it's not.Now go eat some kimchi, Jun-Park
>>531274664The j-20 is a total failure. The lead designer yang wei was just executed for corruption after the j-20 continues to self destruct. Xi was lied to about its capabilities and performance. There has been a large military investigation and corruption purge.
>>531274664F-35 wasn't shot down, it was just damaged.
>>531275651Retvrn to Tradition
>>531275745VGGGHHHH
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>>531274664> If China puts the J 20 on the market right now anti US and Middle Eastern countries would be desperate to buy it.They're not going to sell their flagship. If it's shot down it will make them look bad and Asians don't want to look bad. F-35 is not the USA flagship.
>>531275745Ace Combat ahh plane
>>531274796>stealthIt shouldn't have even got hit.
>>531275513>>531275413>>531275645>>531275692What a COPE? A pilot without a functioning fifth generation jet is just a civilian in a flight suitBy your logic sinking a billion dollar carrier isnt a kill as long as the captain swims to shore.
>>531274664J-20 is literally just MiG 1.44 painted to look "stealthy"
>>531276243A nig 1.44? How did you drunks fit 1.44MB into that nigger?
I confess I don't have a firm grasp on how important these endlessly expensive and slow to produce fighters are for real warfare. It seems like they're made for aggression against shitholes with limited ability to fight back, and not as important, not to mention monetarily efficient, for defense.
>>531274664About the J-20...
>>531274834eglin nigger
>>531274664The f22 is the real ultimate fighter jet. The f35 has always been a scam
>>531276641You didn't read the source correctly, it's The Daily *Fake* News.
>>531274919You laugh but you are going to die in the dunes of the Sahara and the mountains of the Kabayli in a couple years.
>>531274664>extinct bug noises
>>531276580Wow, China actually holds people accountable when they fuck up. No one who works in an office is every held accountable for their shit actions in the West, only plebs who work with their hands.
>>531274664>F35 is from 2006. 20 years alreadyGoddamn. Time is going full sonic
>>531276580Kek, the only difference is US just gives more money to MIC scammers to "fix" and "improve" non functioning crap instead of yeeting them.
>>531277134>Goddamn. Time is going full sonicIts been a hanger queen and barely functional the entire time. The plane didn't start hitting the streets until the mid 2010s.
>>531275133>WE'VE BEEN EMPED! ELECTRONICS ARE DOWN!!!
>>531274934>”If”What a pathetic cope.
>>531277101Wow you're such a copetard holy shit. Kill yourself.CHINA HAS NO 5TH GENERATION JET YOU DUMB FUCK!
>>531275573> First, I'm no expertNo kidding.
>>531276778>f35 has always been a scamThe F-35 is a good living example of the sunk cost fallacy and should be taught in schools. Its unfortunate that congress did not want to continue the F-22 manufacturing and production.
>>531276580Glad to see someone reporting what I brought to /pol/'s attention. Someone has to counter these wumao fucking shits and their nonstop bullshit. They bank on people's ignorance and the CCP's ability to keep the truth from proliferating. The truth always finds a way out though.
>>531275693>The lead designer yang wei was just executed for corruptionBased,EU shall start doing the same,
“ Its clear now that Russias Su-57 is just a meme with fake spec” Lmao
>smirks in farsi
>>531277836China STILL does not have a 5th generation fighter jet lol.Also they're poisoning their entire coastline due to their shitty sub that sank at dock in the Yellow River.
>>531274934>1 plane out of 600What are you even trying to say koon kim?
>>531274934If the plane flew back to base it wasn't shot down retard.
>>531277742>/pol/ is a bunch of retards Thanks for your contribution globohomo jew shill man
>>531277920Did I write something about 5th gen fighter, illiterate burgerbrain?I'm impressed that in China someone is suffering consequences for fuckups, instead of receiving rewards and promotions like it is happening in EU or Poland.
>>531276580This reads like it was written by a fantasist. Might be true but the writing style is not convincing.
>>531277613The F-22 is expensive to maintain and expensive in general, also obviously not suited for carrier use. Lockheed bought off enough people in every branch to convince the military they could make a one-size-fits all F-16/F-18/A-10 replacement which was a bad idea, but those still needed to be replaced with something and F-22 can't fill those tactical roles.
>>531277934He's trying to cope right now but he's doing a poor job of it. He's coping to cope.All this cope from these retards and wumao fucking shits with VPNs won't magically make china have a 5th generation fighter jet though.
>>531278144That's the entire point of this situation you fucking retard. Holy shit you're dumb. Go back to plucking potatoes from the ground and making soup you inbred dipshit.>>531278111Butthurt chinkoid.
>>531278464Hate on the F-35 all you want but it is performing and taking out targets. Even when the stealth fails it tanks missiles and flies back to base.
>>531274934Dumb NAFOgook
>>531276920Based berbers
You know US fighters are good when if one gets taken down it gets talked about like it's a Maus-tier weapon with only one in service.
>>531274664J-20 isnt for sale. The J-35 is made for export tho.
No stealth aircraft is actually invisible, it just has a really small radar cross section. It's just much harder to lock on to. Yugoslavia shot down an F-117 in 1999. If Iran actually had some special infrared radar, we'd likely see a whole lot more aircraft getting hit, and they wouldn't be able to successfully emergency land.
buy kaan.
>>531274934You're a tranny. How many planes in warfare after thousands of hours, and hundreds of missions get damaged, or have technical faults?There you are claiming a baseless lie. You stated they shot down a plane. Nope. The aircraft returned to base and the pilot was uninjured.Damage where? You mean a technical fault. Omg stop the fucking press. You stupid tranny.Look up a fact check from a destingated source before spewing baseless propaganda.There's a chance the plane was targeted. Who can actually say. Iran can't. They hit shit. Nothing. The video was A.I manipulation. The plane has countermeasures if it is targeted. It returned. The pilot uninjured.Fact check.
>>531274664Suck my cock, Chang. You fucking retard.
>>531279380Wtf is this? Look so ugly but Is this 5th gen fighter?
>>531275413>the whole point of shooting down a plane is that the pilot is ether killed or capturedSo if you shoot down a plane but the pilot somehow survives and returns to base without getting captured, then it was all pointless? I don't think so.
>>531274664This is bullshit, F35 has half of that combat range.Su-57 specs are real, but production is so low that they're basically irrelevant. If you ordered a fleet of su-57's it would take over a decade to be delivered.Planes are just missile platforms. You need to buy and integrate the entire weapon systems. You need Chinese AWACS and radar systems to be properly integrated. Not like Iran's half assed approach to Russian and Chinese AA systems, where they wanted things piecemeal "we'll take some launchers, but keep your radar solutions, we'll figure that out ourselves".
>>531279616It's what Turkey built themselves after they got booted out of the JSF programme, the "Kaan". As yet unproven so nobody really knows if it's any good.
>>531279456These retards were howling in victory the other day over AI videos showing one of our carriers getting sunk.
>>531276580How convenient! just when the goylems pride took a nosedive after their stealth plane got shot down we already got cope!Surely not propaganda and cope, surely. Who the fuck is so easily fooled as to accept propaganda and counter propaganda every time? Must be the ones who desperately need it to protect their world views.
>>531276580"shot dead on the spot"lel they should have at least tried to make this convincing
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>>531274834Venezuela cut a deal for a bloodless coup.
>>531274934We have over a thousand, and hundreds more being sent to flags in this thread. We can literally build them faster than they get damaged.>>531276010Contrary to what third worlders believe, stealth planes are not UFOs. Pilots make mistakes, and technologies have failures.
>>531279380kaan is ugly
>>531278578It can not be understated how bad it is that we spent 400 billion dollars on this fat ugly chode plane to be “totally invisible” and untouchable and then the Persians detect, track, and effectively shoot it down in the opening of the war. The pentagon is full of revolving doors and scams and have been lining their pockets instead of investing practically in our weapons of war. This is a joke.
ITT: retards who don’t understand modern warfare
there's a high probability that Iran and Syria possess weapons of mass destruction.Please be very careful. Because South Korea smuggled strategic materials to Iran, Iran was able to arm itself with weapons of mass destruction. South Korean Firms Violate International Controls on Shipping Materials for WMDs to Iran and Syriahttps://japan-forward.com/south-korean-firms-violate-international-controls-on-shipping-materials-for-wmds-to-iran-and-syria/Editorial: S. Korea should clearly explain fire-control radar incidenthttps://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20181228/p2a/00m/0na/017000c
>>531282609I bet you are that guy who tries to scrap an entire tank design every time it gets shot>>531282773It's all so tiresome
>>531279616It is to the F22 what the SKS is to the AK47
>>531282852No, I’ve always hated the F35. It reeks of corruption and kickbacks.
>>531282852An F15 has never been shot down in combat, ever. They fly with impunity. The F22 can destroy 5 F15s before they’re aware they were targeted in our war games. The F35 is supposedly a generation beyond even that and they hit it. You guys are not getting how bad that is.
>>531276139That is actually logical.
>>531276641>radar >posts thermal image Poo in loo
>>531274796>send tech to USLol, the Chinese took that tech from an American prototype that was deemed inferior to the f-35.
>>531276580> chinese execute mic contractors for traitorismwheres my meme of the majestic osprey sunning itself on the rocks digesting the dead marines inside
>>531283215it was shot down by heat seekers from a k truck, chinese quantum radar is cool but probably isnt in iran
>>531274664>landing at an airbase without the pilot punching out>shot downum..
>>531274777>the only buyer is the country traumatised with its war with France so much it won't buy anything western
