Any ideas on how this will play out? Occupation of the entire country and regime change? Or just a partial occupation of the coast to stop attacks?
we'll probably just hang out in the mountains for a few years, no point in pushing further
It'll probably be like the Ukraine/Russian war rather than the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Prolonged and high casualty numbers
lol ..sometime this week, Trump will just say "the mission is over and it was a spectacular success". And he will start ranting about Obama and how he absolutely destroyed our country and that he is doing God's work to fix it.If any reporter asks about Iran he will accuse them of being "fake news" and skip the question and move on to another reporter. That's how this ends.
>>531275563It would be monumentally stupid for them to try a ground invasion, i won't even address the problems with mobilising & accumulating the necessary forces and supplies. I honestly hope they do it desu, I'll cum to fat little zog piglets getting cooked in their planes helicopters and landing craft. the first video i see of a soldier or marine getting their dick and balls blown off by an fpv drone will give me a full body orgasm
>>531275921Try the Korean warMassive casualties, uncertain conclusion
>>531275921According to the brownoids, there will be millions of dead Americans with zero Iranian casualties, and somehow the Ayatollah gets resurrected
>>531275563it wont happen because we are simply not willing to pay the cost in lives and $$$ required to do it.If we start to do it, we will be driven off
>>531275563either he drops it entirely, or this >>531275921complete with eventual kidnap conscriptions
>>531275563https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_tMu-USkjI
>>531275921>It'll probably be like the Ukraine/Russian war rather than the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.I think it'll be a mix of both, insurgency but much more intense and deadly due to advances in technology. Iranian government will fall but America won't be able to fill the vacuum or have the money to rebuild a standing army there and will have to withdraw
There will be no invasion. At best they will land on Kharg and take it over and thats it.
>>531276267more than half the country is mountains, with tunnels and cave networks built up over hundreds to thousands of years only the locals know the layout or extent ofmuch of the civilian populace likely lives in them already so any kind of bunker busting shit will kill massive numbers of civiliansfubar quagmire
>>531276209Mutts don't have a martyr/warrior culture though. Iran can lose millions because they believe their defensive war is honorable and just. Mutt morale will drop to 0 once we start spamming dead mutt drone footage daily
>>531275563They'll surely have learned their lessons from Iraq and not just brush off the old rumsfeld doctrine hoping to be welcomed as liberatorsSURELY
>>531275563I think it will be a disastrous bloodbath of a failed amphibious attack.
>>531275563i think so many zogbots will get massacred there by drone spam and mountain guerillas that neocons will never again dream of another iranian adventure
>>531276197NK was getting its shit pushed in until China bailed them out. Nobody's coming to Iran's aid lol. They spent the last 50 years pissing off their muslim "brothers".
>>531276285What if they get hit with a swarm of drones and missiles from the mainland while taking Kharg island?
>>531276389They're willing to fight to the last goy.
>>531276389They have nothing so they're running old PNAC plans.
>>531276361Just locate the tunnels and plant explosives in them
>>531275563wonder weaponsbut even if every missile launcher is taken offline before terminal oil damage is doneyou've got enough fundamentalists that can live off of grain and goats milk in mountain tunnels to sink ships even during a full on Iraq level Western occupation
>>531275563Trump has to go to mordor and spread his crack of doom for the Ayatolla.
>>531275563It won't. Even cheeto hitler isn't dumb enough to start a land war in asia.
>>531276480China and Russia can supply them through Afghanistan
>>531275563in WW2 cities with no strategic value were firebombed by the Allies, civilians targeted directly to cause refugee flows and stress the authorities. it was considered a success.it was done again with NATO bombing of Serbia with Jamie repeatedly saying "anytime Milosvic want this to stop he only has to..". so whats next? bombing Iranian nuclear power, water, etc plants. call reports of such 'enemy propaganda', distract the Iranian authorities, draw their security forces away, then invade. Same deal in Yemen.
>>531276480North Korea had 9 million people, Iran has 90.
>>531275563thinking big picture, the only regime changes will be in syria and iraq. irgc is going to start an uprising clearing a direct path to israel. thats if anything is left from the droning of israel. all targets within 4000km of iran will be missiled.
It's all a distraction so Israel can actually advance in Lebanon instead of getting stuck in a stalemate with the surrounding militias.
>>531276110Won't work with gas prices like that.
>>531275921Eastern Ukraine and Western Russia are all flatlands. These are long mountain ranges. This will take probably 5-10 years and a few million dead goyim for the US to win
>>531275563You can find the answer in the history books.
>>531276242I wasn’t planning on ever leaving my house again anyway
>>531275563screen cap thisIran will be used to bring about the end of Islam and the mass conversion of Muslims.
>>531276484Landing on Kharg island seems dumb…why risk the optics of casualties to capture some oil tanks….just blow it all up and rebuild
>>531275563We might occupy some islands for awhile>>531275563
>>531275921if it turns into that, iran will surely win. americans arnt behind this war in general. iran is largely unified in this war. even though the population difference is significant a demoralized population will NEVER defeat a united and motivated opposition.
>>531275563Well, I would not recommend a ground invasion. But if I had to carry one out, I would bein by seizing islands in the gulf, and any flat land adjacent to Iraq. I would attempt to draw the Iranian armed forces into a pitched battle in these locations (which they would surely not do, because it would be suicidal.) the Iranians would likely counter with more terrorism and piracy, but they would be forced to conceed thier best options for terrorizin the strait.phase two would be international. I would attempt to ramp up oil production, particularly in Mexico, canada and Venuzuala. This is the fundemental problem. Oil production. It requires a global increase of 20% by non gulf countries. At 100$ a barell though, you can bet those resources are bein brought online as fast as possible. The question is however "how fast can I increase net production worldwide?" .... thats the real problem.Once oil price is no longer a factor ... Iran is no longer a problem. Militarily they can be defeated very easily. in fact, from a military perspective, there really isnt any "Iran" left. What should we do? As westerners. Destroy all the infrastructure in Iran. Bomb them right back to the 12th century. Let the chips fall where they may. It would take six months, but oil prices would stabilize. bomb thier water grid, thier hydroeletric grid, adn ALL of thier oil and gas facilities. If they wanna close the strait, fine, so be it. We should make sure its closed to ALL traffic. if the hindus and chinks starve and thhier economies implode, then thats the price they must pay for supporting this terror regime, thats on them. For me, I dont care. My house has solar power, my truck is a hybrid, and canada has plenty of oil and gas. Oil prices hitting 120, 140 dollars a barell would cause the existing liberal climate wackos to lose thier shit. Low oil prices help them. People dont care about emissions caps and carbon credits until oil gets pricey.
>>531276639there are only like 30,000 tunnels and no maps. Iranians are born with instinctive knowledge of the layouts of these tunnels since they have been around since before Christ.
>>531275563Its impossibleEvery landing point, island etc is within range of dronesThe US has zero defense for drones in a invasion scenarioIran has all the knowledge of Ukraine/Russia war as they have been behind most of Russias drone devIts suicide from the startWho would have thought flying lawnmowers would change war so much
>>531278162If they don't have any military left how are they still firing missiles and drones? did those radars and US bases just explode by themselves?
>>531277868because control of Kharg island means control of Irans oil and gas exports. If the Iranians want to destroy it because its occupied, thats on them.We should do what they do. Station our troops right beside thier biggest most expensive pieces of infrastructure, and let iranian missiles and drones destroy their own country. Taking gulf islands forces the Iranians to use whatever limited resources they have left to be expended in thier own teritory, destroying thier own equipment. however, i am very doubtful that Trump will commit any grounds forces to mainland Iran. He may however conduct special forces operations in iranian territory. This could be wildly successful. Seizing the gulf islands would be pretty easy too. In any event it doesnt really matter. The muzzrats will never admit defeat so as long as there is a goat left to rape and a pile of rubble to stand on. by thier standards Hitler won the second world war because germany still exists, the south won the civil war because the southern states still exist, etc.
>>531276484Destroying their own capacity to export oil, the only currency they have, for the next decade or so? Do you really think they and the Chinese are both so stupid?>>531277868"Some oil tanks" is ignorant at best. It's the backbone of their economy. Taking it is a bargaining chip.
>>531275921Even Iran isn't pretending they'll last long against the US in a conventional fight. They'll cede territory almost immediately, the way they did their navy, airforce, and most of their ground equipment, and focus on ambushes and raids from hidden positions. More intense than Iraq for sure, but nothing like the trench warfare and static lines in Ukraine.
>>531278162But I don't want to starve, torture and kill millions of random Iranian civilians. I don't think they deserve it. Probably because I'm not a bloodthirsty zionist
>>531275563its going to take more than 5,000 marines maybe 300,000 would take ittook 200,000 to capture iraq and thats including the entire coalition not just the US
>>531278956>and let iranian missiles and drones destroy their own country.why would they do that when they can just attack the gulf states and israel
>>531278956how do you get the troops therethey need to land by boat, that means a stationary craft on the coast in range of dronesthat means death
>>531279377it also took 2 years of planningI am going out on a limb and will suggest that there has not been much planning here
>>531278843Sure they have lots of military left, but its completely ineffective. How many Americans have they killed? how many iranians are dead? They have no ability to strike thier enemies, just terrorize the innocent and thier neighbours. And in a way, Trump is right about that ... thats thier neighbours problem and their own customers problem (China and India). Those countries have fostered this problem for decades, now they are reaping what they have sown. I am in favour of continuin the air campaign, in fact expanding it to include thier infrastructure. No government can operate wihtout electrictiy, just ask the cubans! We should take out the power rid and bomb Khar island ... let the chips fall where they may. if the chinks and hindus starve, so be it, thats the price they pay for financin this horseshit for decades. We take down thier power grid and turn the fuckin lights off, and I dont think the Iranian regime, as it currently sits, will last very long. Look at Cuba, it seems to be a very effective strategy. When the radios stop working, you can no longer check IDs, and everyone is wothout power ... you cant collect taxes or maintain records, you cant operate small businesses, you cant buy or sell anything, not even internally, except with cash ... and Iranian cash is worthless. It wont take long before the iranians are brought to heel under those conditions. Turn the power off, and we will see how long they last. Given that they are religious wackos, maybe a few more months then the Cubans. Would it fuck the global economy. YES. Would a billion chinks and hindus starve ... more then likely. Would inflation spike all around the world ... yes ... and that might actually be a very good thing. these liberals wackos are able to stay in power all over Europe because inflation is low and they can "borrow borrow borrow" .... turn up the heat and lets see if people are still enthusiastic about "carbon credits" and "emmisions caps".
>>531279735planning is woke and gay you tranny
>>531277333The yoinking of southern Lebanon has really gone under the radar.Typical jewish tricks
>>531279735Whatever plans they were working on were likely ruined when israel killed the ayatollah without asking.
>>531278162Objectively correct in the first part. You don't fight them in Persia, you just bomb the shit out of the core. You eat away at and occupy the western edges. That's where they're least capable of defending and where most effective middle launch sites are. "Phase two" began long before the war started. We've been developing our own resources. We took Venezuela first to control it's oil output when the global supply gets disrupted. The price of oil hurts economies, but it also incentivizes bringing those resources online and to market, not only to relieve the pain but to make money doing it. That would happen much more slowly without that pressure. The price of oil is a factor regardless of where your oil comes from because it's a global market. America gets a tiny percent of it's oil through the Gulf but that doesn't stop the speculative price of a barrel from skyrocketing and it doesn't stop oil companies from taking in record profits at the expense of the consumer. This is a part of an offensive economic war against China, and all strategy should be considered in that context. Destroying Iran's economic, industrial and military capacity for years to come is a high priority. It effectively closes a distractive theatre of war available to and beneficial to China if and when the war goes hot and kinetic.
>>531279683Airborne to start. The Iranians dont really have the "selective ability" to target particular ships in the gulf. they can attack ships, buts it random and not specific. They lack the intel. We could move ships in that gulf if we wanted too. >>531279424>why would they do that when they can just attack the gulf states and israelbecause they feel obligated to attempt to repel a literal siezure of thier territory.
>>531279771Got it, so those radars and American bases blew up by themselves, drones and refuelling tankers just fall out of the sky by themselves, and most importantly the US military is telling us the gospel truth about how many fat little zog piglets have been cooked. Thanks for the update you fat fucking kike, nobody believes you
>>531280218kekno you cantif you could, it would already be happening and you wouldnt be hiding behind the mountains in OmanAs for airborne, you have to fly slow to do that and Iran still has anti air, if they can hit a F-35 they sure as shit can hit an air transport
>>531278746They're not going to bomb their own oil export hub, and if they did, a couple hundred troops is nothing compared to them destroying their own economy and hurting China's for a decade or more. Either way they lose.
>>531280166Are you forgetting Russia? You people are actually retarded if you think the whole world won't eventually turn on you.
>>531275563Not good. The Democrats will seize on the opportunity to prosecute Hegseth & Co., and most will support it because of the footage that will likely come out of this debacle. It will be like the Bay of Pigs + Vietnam, driven by the orange nigger's child-fucking ego and the sycophants around him.
Let´s say they take Kharg Island. On paper, a checkmate. What do you do if Iran doesn´t accept the defeat, but simply decides to escalate? Like, marines go in and take Kharg Island and Iran responds with bombing oil and gasfields in the gulf states, then what?The enriched uranium can probably be negotiated out willingly, if U.S and Israel are not involved. Spain has been nothing but obtuse against Israel and the U.S, I would think Iran is willing to hand it over if Spain, China and France can talk to them alone without having Jews from New York who helped killing their pope in the room. Obviously it would still be with the threat from further U.S attack, but to say there is tremendous hatred between U.S and Iran right now, maybe some fresh guys in the room might help.>>531279771>We should take out the power rid and bomb Khar island ... let the chips fall where they may. if the chinks and hindus starve, so be it, thats the price they pay for financin this horseshit for decades.I´m kinda with you on this, fuck´em, sooner or later the overpopulation in this world is going to starve to death, but at least go into it with open eyes. At least Trump would be a consequential President, he won´t soon be forgotten.
>>531280424kekyou are deludedIn order to stay on the island you need a baseYou need to feed and supply your troopsLiterally 3 drones wipes out any base of operationsIts fantasy, you couldnt even defend your own base in Iraq against separatists with shitty hand me down weapons
>>531275563It's not you had to invade Afghanistan and Iraq all over again
>>531275563it will be 125x dumber than the decision to attack iran in the first place with "le decapitation" strategy, which itself was already the dumbest thing the united joke states did in the last 50 years by a factor of 20. look how it turned out, now the strait is open to everyone except the zionist pedo-niggers aggressor party (israel & usa) so the whole world can profit off cheaper oil while the epstein allies have to pay up. what a political nightmare of colossal extent.. I am starting to really side with the iranians now.
>>531280596No and tatsa terminal checkmate you lost you have to afghistan ad Iraq all over again
Dont think there will be a real invasion they will sit on that oil terminal island and other places so there are enough targets nearby to pick over Israel.
>>531279771>thats thier neighbours problem and their own customers problem (China and India). Those countries have fostered this problem for decadesAlso an important strategic point. The Middle East has been pretty apathetic to Iran and China. This forces them to take a side. Sure, they're going to be pissed at us too, but we didn't launch missiles at them.You don't need to bomb their infrastructure to turn the lights off. That's faster, but it puts the blame on the US and becomes more effective propaganda for them. Crippling their economy will have the same effect and the Iranians choosing to continue the campaign anyway puts that pressure on them instead. We desperately want the 90m Iranian people in favor of toppling the regime, not chanting death to America.
>>531280564I happen to like Hegseth. I don´t get the hate.
>>531275563Look up Robert Pape. He's a real professor (unlike Prof Jingding) who has been modeling a war with Iran for decades. His whole point is that the more you escalate the more sucked in you get. The mechanics of the situation means there's no backing away though either. It won't be good.
>>531280166100% agree, and thats why we need to bite the bullet and take the pain of six months of elevated oil prices and go all-in on absolutely destroying every bit of iranian infrastructure.You cant fight a war with one hand tied around your balls! Trump should have understood this. I hope he doesnt get cold feet now. We need to press forward with the total destruction of iran ever being any kind of regional power. We dont need a ground invasion to accomplish that. blow up the dams and bridges and refineries. However, if the US does seize places like Kharg Island and other gulf islands, they should install the Shah of Iran to run it and form a new nation "The Republic of Persia" (RoP) (or soemthing simliar)... then we could potentially create an Iranian civil war, by dividing the country. Let Iran fight Iran.With american weapons and continued american air power the RoP might beable to begin an actaul invasion of Iran. If its iranians fightin Iranians it gets rid fo the optics of the US as invaders, and it creates a potential fighting force of 40 millions citizens (which I figure is the number of iranians opposed to the Ayatollah, approximately half the population).
>>531275563>Any ideas on how this will play out?heres a preview
>>531280438I'm not forgetting Russia. Russia is inconsequential outside of its capacity to supply China with raw materials and it's nukes, which it will never use offensively. They are busy ineffectively prosecuting a war in their own backyard. They're a regional power in a region that's not all that important.
>>531278162>>531280166Any invasion would likely begin in Bandar Abbas and the Hormuz islands. This would allow frenly Gulf states to get their oil back online. Next would be coastal plains near Kharg, then the Island itself. Mojahedin-e-Khalq Is already carrying out attacks in Khuzestan area.
>>531276833Putin is about 1 wrong move away dumb a free water bottle and a helicopter ride to Florence ADX.
>>531280923why are people saying this, every island is in range of dronesIran will literally drone the shit out of any US force on any islandDrones arent missiles, they can have very small payloads that minimize damage while targeting enemy forcesAlso, how do you think they are going to get them on the island, you need to be pretty much stationary to launch an amphibious attack, thats not going to be healthy of the coast of Iran
>>531280596>What do you do if Iran doesn´t accept the defeatIt doesn't matter if they accept it or not, we would have accomplished everything that matters to us. Their oil goes offline and we win. Them having nukes matters to Israel, for us it's just pretext. They can continue to bomb oil infrastructure in the Gulf until the Gulf and Europe gets pissed and does something about it themselves instead of expecting America to solve all of their problems for them. We can't be the ones responsible for destroying non-military targets. If they do it themselves, great.
>>531275921Except the world doesn't rely on ruble, the allies such as belarus and kazakhstan desperate need their oil/gas being exported on a single strait or iran having the sympathy of the planet.Americans fucked up big time, this is what happens to your brain when jews blackmail you over full HD 4K videos of you raping kids.I can't wait for all the footage of fpv drones blowing up zoomers 10,000 miles from ohio flooding the internet.
>>531280650We don't need to stay on the island.
>>531280295This retarded Aussie faggot actually believes that all our radar and bases are gone, because Iran wouldn't lie, would they?
>>531281291how for fucks sakehow the fuck are you going to land troops and supplies on the coast of Iranyou either need slow air or a coastal dockslow air will get taken out by anti air, they have managed to hit a F-35, you want to slow fly a troop aircraft over their coastal regionORSail a vessel into a port that they can throw drones at never mind fly them
>>531275563>Any ideas on how this will play out?Trump stabbing Bibi in the back most likely. Other than that the most likely thing is just grabbing strategic positions needed to keep the strait open and then digging in for korea style warfare and negotiated resolution. Trump is too much of a cuck for that though so the israelis will have to tard corral him to make it happen. The israelis want pipelines to run through their territory instead of the strait so keeping the area a contested and dangerous clustefuck is their end game. They give zero fucks about regine change or america winning a stalemate is their endgame so they can leach off oil revenues.
>>531281291>This would allow frenly Gulf states to get their oil back onlineno it wouldn'tIt's literally impossible to completely secure the strait while Iran wants it closed.Even if we somehow occupied their whole country, they could keep it shut by threatening it with insurgent / terrorist drones that come out of nowhere forever. Tankers aren't willing to cross if there's even a 5% chance they might get hit.
>>531281154>he thinks half the population is opposed to their own government instead of circling the wagons against the backstabbing kikes and their fat nigger slave nationyou use a lot of big words to compensate for how fucking stupid you are
>>531281564where do you stay thenwhere do you build a basewhere do you run supplies tohow do you run suppliesAny where in the gulf from Oman to Kuwait is easily targetable and you wont have the benefit of base defense, not that its worth fuck all anyway, as we have seen so far
>>531281291>MEKlolWhat's next, the shah will land in a helicopter in teheran?
>>531280418>As for airborne, you have to fly slow to do that and Iran still has anti air, if they can hit a F-35 they sure as shit can hit an air transportMuch is risked in war. If we are not willin to accept casualties we should never have gotten started. in fact, if our attitude is to be "no casaulties" we might as well surrender today. thankfully white men are not cowards like you. The simple fact is, there is a HUGE difference, between bein able to hit the occasional fighter, and being able to stop an airborne invasion. >>531281382because unlike you they dont live in fantasy world of unlimited drones and intelligence. And if you dont belive that, then please state, and be specific, what are the upper limits of iranian drone manufacture. especially considerin this scenario includes all out bombing campaign of ALL iranian infrastructure (dams, bridges, power grid ... its ALL on the menu),are you seriously trying to convince me that Iran can keep up the pressure when the electrictiy gets turned off ... are you a fuckin retard?
>>531281573you wanna quote me verbatim where I said 'all your base are belong to Iran lolzors' you fat nigger cunt?
>>531276484>pretend to invade Kharg>Iran destroys its own island>Destroying Iran's ability to export oil for decades>Iran becomes permanently forth world>All using Iranian drones and missiles. This whole thing cost America nothingkek
>>531281291There's no reason to occupy the bulk of the islands, that's get in, get out, and destroy any attempt by Iran to reoccupy them as it happens. Bandar Abbas would be a liability.
>>531275563>remaining nuclear material seized>khamenei II gaddafied live by Iranian tribunal>2 IDF/US planes destroyed due to retardation>6 US soldiers KIA>20,000 IRGC liquefied>1,000,000 flee to Pakistan to start a new terrorist groupSomething like that
>>531281815none of that will ever happen lol. what's the point of you posting your gay like fantasies?
>>531281795If you're going to occupy any part of Iran it's the west where their missiles are coming from and where you already have extensive infrastructure in neighboring Iraq.
>>531281815you truly have absolutely no comprehension of war do youare they going to air drop a base into Iranyou know troops need constant resupplyso you can drop as many as you like but they can only carry a limited supply of foodAny base that is set up will be droned out of existence in hoursHonestly, people live in fantasy world when it comes to this shit
>>531276110this is exactly what will happen
>>531282039You've been posting retarded takes this whole thread.
>>531275563It's gonna be like a mix of top gun and call of duty black ops, we'll take the whole country from the river too the sea and capture there leader like we did in venezuela
>>531280418>>531280218I imagine it happens over land during an intense bombing campaign. Maybe some underground cave clearings as well. The smartest thing to do would be to get people and equipment underground to avoid retaliation and to maintain some level of confusion when it comes to vehicle support in the area. I'd like to think we already know the extent of some of the tunnels and the best ones to occupy initially. From there you move the troops into cities and start freeing Iran's prisoners. Getting transports, tanks, and arty from the cave to the city is beyond me, even getting them into the cave is going to be a bitch.
>>531282039America can shoot down drones and missiles with near perfect accuracy. Every time you hear "Saudi shoots down a gazillion drones" it's using American technology lol. Further Iranian drones are incapable of penetrating military fortifications, their warheads are tiny. They only can hit homes or expensive skyscrapers in Dubai
Every US base needs extra security. Every airport, railway, building will need to spend A LOT more money than they can afford with everything else going on. This will drag out far longer than they can pay the rising interest on the debt.
>>531275563Mutts who don't know>why>who>wherethey are fighting will be dying in droves.
>>531281607in three weeks they managed to hit a single F35, which incidentally landed and the plane and pilot are safe .... and for some bizarre reasonin, you think this is "proof" the Iranians can control the airspace.will some planes inevitably be shot down ... of course. much is risked in war, and some caualties are a certainty. but you cannot be honestly sugesting that the iranians can prevent the US from taking any island they want, and holding it as long as they want. there is no question as to whether it can be done. the only question is whether we are willing to pay the price. and since the iranians have managed to "shoot down" a single F35 after three weeks, that that price will be very small.once again too many people believe this bullshit. your huffing your own farts. the Iranians have nowhere near the competency, intelligence or air defences they want us to believe. We should call their bluff and raise the stakes. Its all a bunch of brag and bullshit, thats all they've got, an army of internet trolls who forever think they are winning as long as they have a goat to rape and a pile of rubble to stand on.I say BOMB THE FUCK out of Kharg island, and all the rest of thier shit too. Let the chinks and hindus starve, see if I care. Let the oil prices surge, it will only lead to the rest of the world moving further away from gulf states and thier neverendin bullshit.there comes a time when good men need to raise the black flag and start cutting throats. no more appeasement, no more "deals",
>>531282433>Iranian drones are incapable of penetrating military fortificationsGreen Zone status? American base status?
>>531281999>>531282215kekYou are the one that is talking about using infrastructure you cant defend, separatist groups in Iraq have been bombing camp Victory for funThey literally flew 2 drones through the entire base without any reaction, they were all hiding undergroundBut now you think you can fly into Iran and set up bases, you cant even defend your hardened existing bases in different countriesStealth bases dont exist, all it takes is 1 surveillance drone followed by half a dozen shaheeds and anything you land by air is fucked
>>531281382Think you misread what I said The goal is to have Iranian drones aim at burgers in the region and not their master
>>531281502I´m not saying don´t do it, just don´t be surprised if they decide to chimp out rather than raise the white flag.
>>531275563This is the only way
>>531282298Absolutely you do any initial occupation under cover of bomb runs. >>531282661Yeah, heading your posts with feigned laughter doesn't make your strawmanning any less retarded.
any ground incursion into iran is purely suicide missions
>>531282571The magical thing is America doesn't even need to invade the entirety of Iran, just the literally easiest part (South West). If America and allies capture and hold this region of Iran, the rest of Iran simply keks out because it's where 99.9% of their oil fields are. And this isn't even mountainous or difficult, it's the most valuable terrain in Iran is literally the easiest terrain to invade. Even just that tiny island of Kharg is enough, two more islands and one more tiny costal port and you took out 99% of Iran's ability to export oil and gas. But it should be even possible to seize the oil and gas fields outright.
>>531282844I think that's very much a part of the calculus. They can continue to claim they're fighting a war with no economy, no industry l, and no military, but their people are going to get tired of it and do what only they can.
>>531275563Honestly, my assessment of Trump overall is that this is just a show of force, him asserting dominance. Once he's done we're gonna walk right out of there and get back to our lives.We haven't made a commitment to anyone, as was the case in Afghanistan. Or Iraq. We quite literally just came into a country, wiped our ass with its military, reminded the world that nobody is untouchable, and once we've had our fun we're just gonna casually pull out and leave them to deal with the misery for nine months.it feels great to be goddamn American again, and it is thanks to Donald J. Trump.
>>531275563>Or just a partial occupation of the coast to stop attacks?pointless with the range of the dronesliterally the only way to stop the war is a full on draft and putting american zoomer/goyim boots on the groundalternatively trump could be based and make a deal with iran in return for nuking israel
>>531283152so we pull out, what do we do about the Iranians still launching drones and missiles at our bases and allies in the area? Or do you mean we give all those up too?
>>531281557It’s all good, I keep seeing your kind getting beheaded and limbs being cut one by one with new videos everday
>>531276455Yeah, they'll be too heartbroken over the loss of so many goys.
Honestly, its like the Ukraine/Russia war isnt real in hereThe US has little to no ground based defense against drones in a mobile invasion scenarioThey have seen their bases in other countries get fucked up They can literally see footage of the base in Iraq getting droned while the base was completely deserted but somehowThey can fly into Iran, set up a FOB, land armour and a logistics operation while avoiding getting droned fro a country that has thousands of shitty shaheeds and can probably still produce them at a rate of hundreds a weekcomplete delusion
>>531276110Absolutely this; this won't stop Iran attacking US assets though, threatening terror attacks on the US itself, or lead to the opening of the strait. Really, it doesn't matter what the US says or does at this point, they don't have the cards anymore...
100,000 American casualties at minimum
>>531275563The only possible outcome is a land war along the Iran-Iraw border. All other prior events are mearly steps on the escalation ladder leading to that event.The war will be fought mainly in Iraq. By the whole of Nato against Iran, the resistance, and the breakaway elements of the ME. A generation of young Americans, British, French, German, Italian will be lost in the deserts. Not one Israeli footsolder will come within 500km of Iran.
>>531282571lol so much this, its like in the movie the pirates of the carribean, we'll just kill them and take all of there oil and they can't do nothing about it except cope and seethe
>>531283465it will never get that farOur politicians will pull us out within a few years (the ones who wouldn't will get replaced) because nobody voted for this. They will make some ceasefire deal with the Iranians that is a humiliating defeat for us but its better than continuing the war.
>>531276480Pakistan invading Iran or Afghanistan is literally worse than the current regime. At that point defection from the military is a moral duty if Iran is the only thing preventing Sunni subhumans from gaining control of a massive portion of the world's oil.
>>531283245The Israelis are free to continue pursuing in Iran, just as Iran is free to continue bombing its neighbors. Not to their benefit of course, but the retards still haven't quite figured out that attacking your neighbors, who haven't done anything at all, is not the way to a stable region.And with the way things are going, Iran will eventually get to the point when it can no long fire any missiles at all.
this is Israel, literally just happenedthe most defended country in the worldeven they cant stop everything and its becoming clear they are beginning to struggle the longer this goes onBut yetSomehow, the US is going to land in Iran territory and start taking over
>>531282844let them chimp out. who they gonna kill ... kikes, other arabs ... let the IRGC go full chimp mode. We absolutely should bomb the fuck out of their infrastructure.yes this would defeintely create short term pain, but mostly for China and India, who have been the primary funders of the last forty years of iranian terrorism ... so for me, thats a win. dead kikes ... a bonus! dead arabs ... who even counts them anymore, they go into their graves faster then mohamed rapes a six year old.upsides ... we get to test out our new weapons tech. we completely fuck over the chinks. no more worries about an "AI race".the inflation that it causes in the west will lead to less immigration, lower house prices and likely lead to catastrophic failure of western liberal nonsense policies. I fail to see the downside of an absolute ALL IN strike against every possible infrastructure taret in Iran. We should fuckin OBLITERATE it. Cut the power, cut the water. When the power and water get cut off, there absolutely will be an uprising in iran, by iranians .... they will be left with the choice ... either die or get rid of the mullahs. and that aint no fuckin choice at all.We dont need any ground invasion. We need to give 80 million Iranians a choice, replace your government, or live in the 12th century under islamic law. and btw, this is the moral choice as well. Its up to the Iranian people how they want to enter the 21st century.
>>531275921closer to the battle of gallipoli
>retard is t even replying to anyone anymore because he keeps getting btfo but continues to double down anywayAre you Iranian?
>>531283796based
>>531283796well they are against Iran, that's an entire country. It's not a terrorist group anymore, this is the big leagues. what you have to understand is that in some ways Iran is just as much of a threat as Russia is, the moreso they are increasingly trading and communicating with each other. Iran is going to draw Russia in if this lasts.
>>531283110yes because that totally worked in Gaza to remove Hamas, right?
>>531283065why invade at all. we dont need any of their shit. the chinks do. fuck them too, bunch of fuckin drug dealers.we got all the oil and gas we need. I hear iran is real short of water. we should target that as well. in addition we should target bridges. Iran is alot of mountains. as a moutain boy myself, i know the value of bridges. targettting bridges will seriously fuck with their logistics. go after any rail lines too. We should be seizing thier oil tankers, not letting them through. We can sell the oil and take the money. take the tankers too. fuck them.we need to drop the gloves and go to work on these sons of bitches.
>>531283915https://files.catbox.moe/666h7h.mp4This is Camp Victory in IraqI suggest you watch it and try and get an understanding of how vulnerable ground forces are in modern warfareThere is literally no-one visible because they are all hiding in bunkers, the drone had complete access to the whole baseNow imagine you are in the country that made these drones, with no base because you have just landed, hundreds of troops, in the open, trying to offload supplies or connect with each other after a drop
>>531280424>>531280424>They're not going to bomb their own oil export hubwe are talking about Iranians, the people who invented modern suicide bombing and who have a cult like fanaticism about martyrdom. these people will strap bombs to their own children- they did during the iran-iraq war.
>>531284853Aren't you going to sneedpost you limey fuck?
>>531283705This lmao, it's just like in the movie blade runner
imgine the peak of the iraqi insurgency, but on steroids, with 100x as many insurgents, with better hardwear and organisation, and with new modern nasties like dronesall taking place in a country which is twice the size of iraq with much larger and denser cities i.e a complete fucking bloodbath for the US
>>531275563It’ll be a big flop that eventually ends in loss and embarrassment in one way or another.
>>531284684and yet in spite of your incredible claims of "iranian drone superirority" all Iran has managed to do is murder a handful of civilians and unarmed merchants. dont you have a goat to rape somewhere mustafa. pic related ... to a muzzrat, this is "winning". you think you can fight the US, you cant even fight Israel ffs. pathetic shrimp dicked muzzrat goat rapists. your a fuckin joke. my 12 yr old has a drone you moron.
>>531285378>t. retard pajeet
>>531285378fucktardI am talking about the invasion of Iran and to suggest anyone is winning in this shitshow is retardedbut you do you, keep supporting retards
>>531284853>Iranians, the people who invented modern suicide bombingNo they didnt
>>531280218>they can attack ships, buts it random and not specifickek
>>531278162I actually hope that trump is this retard. He would be truly a Devine intervention to finish off america once and for all.
