US is finished
>>531275669Will it go vertical?
>>531275669The economy is fake, if it was real every country wouldn't be taking on obscene amounts of public debt. The private companies that own the debt run off military contracts, the military escalates war to take more control over the country, then the US becomes outright imperialist once the MIC takes over the country completely. There's next to no real scarcity unless a country relies on debt for importing things that aren't consumer garbage, consumerism itself is a smokescreen for moving around assets.
>>531275669Is this inflation adjusted? Still looks pretty bad. I would say that they probably know what they are doing but I also have lost some amount of faith considering recent events.
>>531275669Kikes always print money. This is just a natural state of the Keynesian economy.
>>531275669more like dollar is now worth half of what it was in 2018
>>531275669Globohomo's origin story:>once upon a time the world has been peaceful and harmonious, then came along a snakeoil merchant>the snakeoil merchant has sent ahead an ostensibly filthy-rich bait to a village>the bait very publically flaunted his shinies and pitched worthless magic paper to the villagers>the villagers sought out the snakeoil merchant, willing to trade their everything for worhless magic paper>a week later, after realizing that its worthless magic paper they couldn't use anywhere else, they returned to the merchant to trade it back>the snakeoil merchant told them that he would be a fool to trade back all the resources for the original prices, as there are so few resources in comparison to the volumes of worthless magic paper now in circulation>villagers involved legal authority which told them to fuck off, because the trades were legal -- the merchant didn't lie, the bait did and the villagers didn't bother asking the merchant or reading the fineprint>the snakeoil merchant showed "mercy" and allowed the villagers to burrow the resources against a fee and interest paid with the worthless magic paper>[fast forward] the village is bankrupt and indebted, everyone's at each other throat having scammed each other out of their worthless magic paper to pay their own fees>the merchant once again showed "mercy" and offered them a deal: if they assume the role of the bait and spread the good word of the worthless magic paper in other villages they'll be allowed to stay in their homes and toil their fields>[fast forward] the merchant is now considered the sovereign, writing the laws and ruling over terminally indebted and blackmailed royality and peasents alike, all the while canonizing the most prolific baits as prophets and whatnot>[fast forward, many fake and gay wars, crisis and cullings later] (You)'re here.
>>531275669it's not our debt and national credit has never been applied
>>531278441they don't know what they are doing. the Federal Reserve only has two options at this point: more inflation (printing more money) which will make the debt go up more, or default on it and crash the economy
>>531275669money is fake an lawa dont existits just things we made up to implement control nothing more, none of it exists ...548 trillion doest matter.
>>531279442That's why theyre doing Iran now, theyre doing a global trade Samson Option
>>531279509lmao the redpill is that money is real enjoy being unfathomably poor as congress spends itself into weimar for literally no reason other than boomers crying about not enough jobs for illegals
>2018Biden's economy, don't care
>>531279442Printing money reduces debt though right? Due to inflation the amount of money you owe has less value.
>>531275669how high can it go
>>531279608agreed. crashing the global economy is better than the US economy alone crashing
>>531277159>The economy is fakeIf this is deemed generally true, then the system and the people who benefited most from it will collapse
>>531275669Pedo-kikes go brrrrrr.
What a wild imaginary god they worship. To whom do they owe the money they invented too?
>>531275669just go into the database and type: UPDATE debt set amount = 0; we own the fuckin database so what if some jews get fucked.
>>531279240True story, they should teach this in grade school
Uh... but wait.... I voted for Trump and he said he was gonna fix this!!!! DOGE was supposed to cut all the waste, fraud and abuse, what happened?!!!!Drumpfsisters..... did we..... trust a conartist grifter and got played?! How could this happen to us again! Well, at least you lost trannies, yep that's right you lost tranny now I feel better! Haha you lost haha.....
literally all you need to do is just start taxing rich people instead of selling them bonds (aka taxing them but they get all the money back with interest)
>>531279240This is why you ought to reject courts of law as holyReject the noahide faggotryMan is imperfectThe law comes from man not godAll books and scrolls are written by manNO laws must be immune from exceptionsNO MATTER WHAT A PRIOR COURT HAS RULED, every situation is different. Consistency IS IMPOSSIBLE. If man could be consistent he could make perfect law. He can not. Perfection requires delusion aka religion aka judaism.
>>531275669TAX ALL RICHES INCLUDING KIKES. CLOSE THE LOOPHOLES!
>>531280060USA national debt is just a redistribution of added value from working americans and from all around the world who use usd to top 0.1%Debt is in fiat, not in real money
>>531280588except there's more debt than money now, so it would take like 80 elons being taxed at 50% of their assets to pay off the debt. elon is supposed to be the richest in the world.
>>531279442A billionaire tax would negate the need for printing (for a while) and it wouldn't crash the economy. In fact it would lead to the break up of the monopolies that are choking the economy.Never gonna happen when billionaires write the laws.
>>531275669>US is finishedno shitthere's over 100 million non-whites here
>>531275669Its 50 trillion books are cooked
>>531275669>Let's get the guy who bankrupted multiple businesses to run the debt laden United States I hate miggers
>>531280060Doesn't matter as long as people are willing to work for it, you can still use it to control people.
>>53127566939 = Miku, let's gooooooo!
>>531275669There hasn't been a single time in history where the national debt didn't reach a new maximum.
>>531279442>>531279608>>531279947the goal is to implement a global digital currency tied to a surveillance state social credit score like China has.
Money is not currency. Money is a vacuous commodity and an irredemable liability, that is valueed in itself in roundabout ways -- through its supply controlled by a select few private hands and through the demand, created artificially (and in utter defiance of sound economy) by sophists that are paid with it. If you will the only real currency left is influence. It's the one thing that has enabled the many criminal industries to endure every conceivable crisis. Warmongers, child-traffickers, corrupt cleptocrats and so on, all sustain themselves on influence. Money is just the intermeditary between them and (You). Money isn't even physically printed or digitially generated (probably not even tabulated at all) anymore. It is merely 'assumed to exist' in the past(debt), the present(credit) and the future(interest) in whatever volumes necessary to manipulate, if not outright to control your behaviour. You are provided worthless magic paper, of which there always simultanousely exists too much, too little and none at all, in exchange for your labor, your sweat, your tears and your lifetime, and you pay interest with your future and your dignity -- while those who provide it to you still barter with goods, services and favors like mankind has done since time immemorial.You are sold shoddily designed, terminally and purposely obsolescent devices and hyperprocessed, inedible slop that are produced at surplus and destined for a landfill. Corporations slash your wages, cut corners and work you into a burnout, because they run on loans, floating an inch above bankruptcy at all times, and have to scam you out of your loans to pay their own interest and debt. Everyone is fighting an uphill battle against unconditional and non-negotiable "number go up!" and the incessant, albeit only proverbial at this point, BRR! of printers. (cont.)
>>531280862No it wouldn't, are you retarded? Taxing the top 1% for their entire net worth (not income, their net worth) wouldn't even fund the government for 6 months.
>>531280996Resources are shuffled across the world in what amounts to supranational Communism, to fuel "national" Capitalism -- the consensus cracking apparatus and onboarding scheme to usury, that's selling you merchandize and bombards you with advertisments. It's one grand pyramid scheme run by bait-people, who LARP as bureaucrats of incorporated labor camps, for their owners: snakeoil merchants.Those who shill Crypto, or the "economic" theories of "Capitalism" and "Communism" for that matter, are effectively shilling a false, makebelieve, to people who don't even know that they have a problem, whilst still being stuck in globohomo's convoluted cinematographic universe themselves.There's no fixing a system whose foundation is rotten to its core. No matter what you may implement, unless you audit the banks and assign tardwranglers to the people running them, there's no hope for any theory -- much less another faux currency. There's not much of an economy left, anon.People are selling problems and renting out metastizing shortterm solutions (smaller, dressed up problems). Why? Because the longer any given problem exists, the more interest and debt are generated. Imagine a world in which there existed durable, high quality devices and food that's not just nutritional blanks coated in industrial waste, and medicine that cures disease. How could you hope to keep up the illusion of value? How could you justify the abundance of worthless magic paper, if the shelves weren't full of garabage only produced to scam and bought due to constant suggestion and parasocial pressure.(cont.)
>>531275669IM NOT USING A CHINAMAN TOILET PAPER DOLLAR IM SPENDING GOLD!
>>531276806No but it will hit an asymptote.
>>531281058People believe money to be valueable, because they believe it to represent the goods they buy with it -- in a sense they are correct: the bare minimally viable product that they have to get coerced to buy and use is a great representation. The past +300yrs of social misengineering and botched eugenics have successfully created a sub-species of mindlessly consuming drones to whom quality (need/purpose) is an utterly foreign concept. (cont)In short: in order for you to be "outraged" about, for example, "tariffs", you have to be blissfully ignorant of the past 5yrs of reckless BRR!nting and blatant, yet legal fraud. In order for you to be "outraged" about the past 5yrs of reckless BRR!nting, you have to be blissfully ignorant of the past +120yrs of perpetual proxy war waged to expand the BRR!nting. In order for you to be "outraged" about the past +120yrs of perpetual proxy war, you have to be blissfully ignorant of the past +300 years of social misengineering and botched eugenics. (...). Your "outrage" is performative and your helplessness is learned. You are suffering through a tried and tested protocol of pest control -- you and me, and most everyone around you are the pests.Whenever the pyramid scheme of debt trembles under the weight of nepotism and plain incompetence, and debtcattle starts noticing the fraud and is threatening to revert back to agentic, sentient human beings, hunger, disease and war are rolled out in quick succession -- in some regions of the world, those lacking meaningful infrastructure and playthings, they are rolled out all at once. I digress.(cont.)
>>531281136Let's have a look at the offical, now obsolete (due to 2020's semantic mindfuck of "0% reserve rate") canon of Fractional Reserve Banking. Say, three banks (#1, #2, #3), two "private" actors (A,B) and a reserve rate of 10%, a capital of 100 units of worthless magic paper (WMP) per bank.>A goes to #1, takes out a loan for 90 WMP, brings it to #2.>B goes to 2# takes out a loan for 171 WMP, brings it to #3.>A goes to #3 takes out a loan for 243 WMP, takes it to #1. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.Eventually each bank has infinite capital, virtually no reserve and still continues willing money into existence (at best based on now absolutely skewed and broken projections detached from the real economy). That all doesn't even account for banks issuing loans directly to other banks, let alone for interest -- but I'd find no end cursing out the concept of interest, so I won't start. Everything runs on loans, so everyone pays interest.Whenever money is willed into existence, all money that "existed" (huehuehue) is devalued, and thus all debts and interest increased (while nominally they remain unchanged) -- your means to pay anything are diminished. You have to quintessentially scam others out of their loans to pay your own debt and interest, whilst somehow sustaining yourself within hyperinflation. You have to continue indefinitely, because there's no limit to how much of nothing one can will into existence.You pay more and more, get less and less, because the money you use is nothing but worthless magic paper. Again, it's not a currency, it's a vacuos commodity. It stands in for nothing and is backed by nothing. Well, nothing but the susceptibility and malleability of the human mind. Legally it's an irredemable liability that you cannot own, only burrow.(cont.)
>>531275669>2 trillion up in the last 8 monthskek i thought Iran was 200 billion and Venezuela basically nothingwhere did it go if not war??
>>531275669>1 post by this IDYOU RETARDS KEEP FALLING FOR IT EVERY SINGLE TIME. IT'S LITERALLY A MOTHERFUCKING BOT OR THE JIDF.
>>531275669Dollary-doo 2 coming soon near you
>>531281272Whhatever fake, gay and retarded technocracy is planned is a grift, an extension to the pyramid scheme of globohomo -- there already exists a "World Government" in the form a cabal of figuratively shapeshifting usurers who'll take on any names and faces that serve their mon(-)eyed interests. The commodification of all things is their form of supplication, and Mammon their god. >n-th generation inbred, inept banksters run the world into the ground with their retarded, myopic pyramid scheme: social misengineering, botched eugenics, perpetual proxy war and reckless usury>their terminally propagandized, domesticated and (develop)mentally stunted, competitively obedient turbofaggot-hypernigger-debtcattle reaches expiration date (=oversaturation with debt in an false-front of an economic and monetary system) and consequently starts to either notice or lose it>banksters panic and initiate pest control, trying to distract and replace old debtcattle with new debtcattle>being terminally propagandized, domesticated and (develop)mentally stunted turbofaggot-hypernigger-debtcattle themselves and overdosing on their own propaganda, the banksters botch it and panic even more>eventually they opt for war and crisis to cull as many as they can to restart the cycleOrdinary debtcattle incurs debt in worthless magic paper, arch-debtcattle incurs technological and civilzational debt. This has been ongoing since atleast +300yrs. If you believe the canon of previous wars, especially the World Wars, you, too, are terminally propagandized, domesticated and (develop)mentally stunted, competitively obedient turbofaggot-hypernigger-debtcattle.>inb4: "TLDR: its jews"Quit wasting your time with labels. It doesn't what bankers call themselves, or what they believe in: an usurious warmonger is an usurious warmonger, it doesn't matter whether he mimes Christian, Muslim, Jew, Secular, brown, white, black, w/e.(I may have mixed pastas, sorry.)
Be ause we've been monetizing the debt since 2008 its mostly owned by the federal reserve. Bankrupt that, come up with a new currency, pay back remaining bondholders and we're done.
>>531279240>once upon a time the world has been peaceful and harmoniousStopped reading there.
>>531279240Mono-railMono-railMono-rail
>>531275669poor peoplee are soooo fucking stupidThis means the world still wants US debt, its great. The economy has become larger its natural that it can service a greater debt
The tariff revenue is paying it down bigly. Where else would it be going? Besides the tariff dividend cheques of course
>>531275669Boomers finished the USA. Guillotines are incoming.
The debt is structural. It's called double entry bookkeeping.Every asset is also a liability -- they mirror each other. Since government is the ORIGIN point of money (it creates it simply by spending it) then the debt structurally needs to exist in order for the government to leave money behind in the economy for the private sector to generate a surplus.Now of course, you can do things that will shrink or eliminate this "debt" (at least on your end). You can run a large enough trade surplus so that the extent to which other countries are in deficit to you eclipses or reduces your own internal debt (this doesn't actually eliminate the "debt" it just shifts who "owes" what -- remember, all assets and all liabilities are equal. the total across the entire planet MUST equal zero, this is accounting reality.)You can also bring the growth rate below the interest rate. Obviously the simplest way to do this is to lower the interest rate -- which as monopoly operations, both the Fed and the Treasury are capable of doing just that. There is no actual "market" function there.
>>531277159>if it was real every country wouldn't be taking on obscene amounts of public debt.This is a definition of debt-based private money created by banks monetary system. Banks (including Central banks) generate money out of nothing via italian accounting scam, and they give all this freshly generated out of nothing money as debt .>mortgages>company debt>credit cards etc. You legitimize this money-out-of-nothing debt scam when you take a credit card or a mortgage. Of course, this can't last too long, as eventually everybody is bankrupt, and top 0.1% own everything.Then they stop their money out of nothing pyramid, and before they get caught move it to another location.
>trump doubled the US debtNot surprised
>>531281943What about inflation?
>>531275669Thats ok, the petro-dollar isa ending so $39 trillion debt wont look so bad in a few years after a bit of hyper-inflation hits the dollar.
>>531278507>Central banksters using italian double-entry accounting fraud> always print money. >This is just a natural state of the Keynesian economy.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-entry_bookkeeping>>531282070
>>531281594>orderly high civilization that only engaged in short, often symbolical armed conflict on meaningful issuesvs>dystopian shitholes that periodically cull their populations in prolonged, fake, gay and retarded meatgrinders to keep their pyramidial debtslavery scheme afloatAn illiterate, diseased and starving peasant in ancientt Europe and tribals in Africa and around the world have had more freedoms and dignity than you'll be afforded throughout your lifetime. Convenience is worthless if it merely masks figurative (and literal) generational and civilizational cancers.
>>531279347Retard.
>>531282094Inflation is a genuine concern. Obviously that is taxation's primary job -- to destroy money. I would also argue that in an economy that already has a lot of debt, higher interest rates do not work the way they are commonly understood to. In a high debt load economy, higher interest rates are inflationary because they create more money through interest (when a loan is issued and the principal repaid, whatever was created as interest remains in the economy. the original loan created as a deposit is destroyed upon repayment and deleted from the money supply).>>531282200There is nothing fraudulent about double entry bookkeeping. It is logical reality.If you loan me $100 dollars and I promise to pay you back $120, that $120 is your asset and my liability. But it is the same money.
>>531279240This is how the modern banking system has been originated.As snake oil salesman prints money out of nothing, once they bankrupted the village,the villagers want to hang the merchant and cut their heads off.If it's an actual merchant, this solved a scammer and fraudster problem.Now that the merchant is hiding behind "bank", bank managers, police, shareholders and multiple LLC companies, you can't the last merchant that you need to hang in order to remove scammers and fraudsters. And once the scam is very big, they buy the gov, lawyers and politicians, and it's over.
>>531282188it is wild how badly its going. i hate miga but they are only the tip of the stupid pole. this is a reoccurring failure of epic levels.
>>531282651There is if you don't have the money and just generated $120 out of thin air.This is a fraud.
>>531275669>let’s indent our great great grandchildren for Israel!t. Mutts
>>531275669nobody gives a shit, let's be honest
>>531282724>you can't Find the merchant that you need to hang in order to remove scammers and fraudsters.
>>531282651I meant who would keep their money in the bank if interest rates were well below the official inflation rate.
>>531280588Just do what China did, and have the state murder a few uppity billionaires to keep them in check. Rich people should use their wealth more to benefit the society.
>>531275669Who do we owe the debt to? Who is supposed to force us to pay it back? Fucking Chinks? LMAO.
>>531275669Daily doom porn from nato schizo. In order to be respected on pol, you must have some sort of mental illness and evil trait such as lying.
>>531275669let the goyim deal with the real world
>>531275669Tick tock, doc
>>531275669Nah the people we owe money to are finished. Eventually we default and become a based North Korea
>>531283483
>>531278441That literally is inflation
>>531275669>the chad fad>new paradigm!
>>531283483If the CBO says 2034 then that really means 2029
>>531275669What number even comes after trillions?
>>531283170>Who do we owe the debt to? Who is supposed to force us to pay it back? Fucking Chinks? LMAO.It's owed to bondholder.About 25% of bondholders are foreign countries, with Japan being the top bondholder. Most of the debt is owed to US citizens who bought bonds.
>>531283693Quadrillions.
>>531283883Sounds big. This country is literally going to be a quadrillion dollars in debt and produce nothing. Lol. Toast
>>531283661Yep. It’s increasing at an increasing rate. As soon as the interest exceeds tax revenue, the US government will default. Leading to TED (total economic death). Collapse of everything.
>>531283693The amount of Jews that died in the holocaust
>>531279509>fakebasically. That debt will never be repaid, it's just a measure of how much the fed sold out to the 'federal reserve', which is not federally owned and has no actual reserves to back their loans.>>531281352Another ond of these bot retards. Listen: It's all bait, so quit whining
>>53127990850t
>>531286819Not a bot, but cool job falling for another 1 post OP. You are all mentally ill and just can't help yourselves. You're doing EXACTLY what the kikes want you to do.
>>531286305Kek
The debt and the trade deficit are one and the same. Short version of the story:>US wants foreign goods>US Sells US dollars to buy foreign currency>US buys and import goods with foreign currency>Foreign counties, now in possession of US currency, buy US investment assets (as we dont export much) >US government acquires money (via treasury bonds), US stocks go up, US companies prosper>US winsThe debt itself is not a problem. First, treasury interest rates barely beat inflation, so in a sense the US is just acting as a savings bank. Second, if we need to we can just inflate our currency to decrease the burden of the debt at any time. We control the currency the debt is issued in!If this is puzzling your brain, consider how your bank operates. All deposits on their books are debt they owe to depositors, that can be called any time. Are banks suffering from all this debt? No! They use the debt to make more money than god. In the same way, the US government being in debt is not a problem, its just leverage they use to ensure the US keeps winning.
>>5312756692 more peaks!
>>531275669pay denbts merica
>>531279891Yes, but the debt being worth less is an incentive for the government to keep spending. Number won't go down until the potus stops being retarded.
>>531283553just export it
>>531275669>doubled since 2018and it will double again by 2029. It literally doesn't matter, it's numbers on a screen. It could go up to 100 trillions and there would be no difference.
Why does it never go down?
>>531286954>mentally illThat fallacy is called projection. Besides, I'm philosemitic enough to outclass kikes anyhow
but we saved $250,000 by canceling DEI air conditioning replacement grants?
>>531275669who gives a shit. if we made it to 40 trillion then why can't we make it to 400 trillion? what's the difference? nothing happened at 1 trillion or 10 trillion or 20 trillion or 30 trillion
We're just getting started lil nigga.
>>531275669Debt to who?
>>531288284>It literally doesn't matterpick up a history book and quit making a fool of yourself. or just stfu since you probably couldn't handle the subject matter anyway
>>531287264>we dont export muchyoure the worlds number one producers of weapons (of all kinds), steel, and much more. why do so many people insist on trying to discuss things they dont know about?
>>531280929>lets get the people who have never held a job or owned any business to run the country with everyone's unlimited moneyYea you're really not as smart as you think you are
Solving the debt is an easy problem financially, just not politically.If you cut spending to 2019 levels the entire budget gets balanced with a fat surplus and debt gets paid down.Nobody's life would collapse if spending was cut back by 7 years' worth of growth. In fact the main thing that would happen is less fraud and lower inflation.But will the American public do the right thing and support the cuts?
>>531291204It doesn't matter if the debt was $0 or a quadrillion dollars. You'd all still be no pussy getting incel chudbaby retards. I don't even know why you guys talk about the debt at all, it has absolutely 0 impact on you.
Why do I have to pay taxes if they just print money
>>531276806Eventually when interest on debt exceeds sanity.
>>531275669if you've ever played victoria you know this isn't a problem
>>531275669>vote pedo into office>basedface when the country burnsamerican whites are so retarded
>>531290738It was a simplification, little leaf. Just a little story.>why do so many people insist on trying to discuss things they dont know about?>pick up a history book and quit making a fool of yourself. or just stfu since you probably couldn't handle the subject matter anywayConsidering your erudite locution, I believe we must be in the presence of a renowned scholar of macroeconomics here. What wisdom will you offer us, oh wise leaf?
All ballistic missiles fired at Dimona have been intercepted.
>>531275669They said usa is finished when the debt reaches 5 trillion. Lolbergs wrong as always.
>>531279891Lmao no, because they will keep spending even more. It's why 30 years ago retards were sold offshoring all production to Asia being a good thing because costs would go down and so you can buy more to consoom, and 30 years later you can now afford even less to consoom, with the cherry on top that you don't even produce anything locally :)Isn't GDPenomics so wonderful.
>>531275669um, like, MAGA and stuff
>>531275669Nice how high can we go? 100 bajillion is my dream.
>>531278507Keynes was a homosexual pedophile. Of course the economy is fake and gay.
>>531293574>homosexual pedophileIs this a bad thing?
>>531278507Except that Keynesian economies you must invest in real wealth and not live from usury and the tertiary sector, migger
>>531275669We've been in debt as long as I've been alive but apparently now it means something.
>>531295437The future is grim, well past any dytopia.
>>531295437it's certainly going to mean more to you when your fuck all job isn't enough to pay for anything with the inflation wave that's coming and when the cost to service the debt sends us into a spiral
>>531275669crazy looking back how badly miggers fell for the "i will reduce the national debt to 0" con from trump. even since 2016 the national debt has now more than doubled. everytime someone responds with biden derangement syndrome another billion gets sent to israel
